LG C4 Review - 𝗨𝗻𝗲𝘅𝗽𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗲𝗱 Benefit of QD-OLED!
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- We review the LG C4 OLED TV, including comparisons vs the Sony BRAVIA 8 with a Sony BVM-HX310 mastering monitor as reference.
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Seeing less and less of Vincent now days.....meaning he must be extremely busy man. Always a good thing.
@@chrisbullock6477 Or maybe he just chills all day playing video games and only makes a video when he feels like it, which is also perfectly fine 😂
@@ArthurM1863 😅
Or maybe he's losing his passion, which would not be a good thing.
I think nowadays there are too boring models without too many novelties. Identical panels, identical shortcuts, identical specs. Just the OLED higher peaks in small windows ( but probably with the same or worse burn in times ) and the Bravia 9 can be talked about.
As long as no big change occurs (new OLED chemistry that allows high peaks at a big window) or almost microLED level, next years will be boring…
Maybe he said something online and king kier has locker him up for having an opinion 😂😂😂😂
We love Vincent glad to see you showing up in my feed again.
Thanks for the review!
I was thinking about returning my C4 and trying out a Bravia 8, but this video and your HDR comparison video between the two changed my mind.
Finally we see a C4 review by you - thank you !
Really should point out the brightness on sizes, dam near false advertising for the smaller models
Could not agree more
Yeah 55inch up. That's with nearly all makes of oled and neo qled.
i own the 42inch model C4 and its plenty bright enough, i sit about 2 feet from the screen its bright enough fam, dont blind yourself and control your rooms lighting with good blinds
I was just thinking about my guy Vincent an hour ago.
Me too. In bed.
@@kiisseli1337 I was in the shower.
I thought Vincent had retired, it’s been ages since he last made a TV review. Glad that he is back as there is nothing like him on RUclips. Please do more quick turn around of other TV reviews Bravia 9 & others.
Nice to hear from Vincent we need the HDTV shootout, would like to see the A95L vs the Panasonic z95A, G4 and bravia 9 ,S95D .
I would really like it too...I would have gone directly to the Panasonic Z95A, but it's a shame that they don't have the 77-inch cut with MLA+
I have been watching your videos for years, Vincent. Your videos a few years ago are the reason I got a C1 for my PS5 and Series X. Yes, I also used your videos to calibrate both consoles and the TV itself once I got it. I am now a PC Master Race and own a Samsung 49" G9 OLED. Would enjoy a video calibrating a version of it. I know it is technically a gaming monitor, but it has Tizen OS in the G95SC model for smart TV features so you could get away with it for your channel. Thank you for all that you do.
Got my first OLED and LG last month at Coscto on sale, the 55" C4. It's amazing the difference on my PS5 gaming. I use filmmaker mode via PC input as HGIG hurts brightness too much and I don't need low latency for single player gaming
Isn’t high more accurate? The settings are so confusing
@@Amybnuy Yes, HGIG is more accurate, but accurate does NOT equal more bright / visually pleasing. That depends on your preferences.
@@soulshot96 you make a good point. I tend to prefer accurate and “intended” and detailed but that’s very fair!
Would you please share your settings? I also avoid using HGIG because it drops the brightness significantly
Would like to see a comparison between lg c3 and lg c4 :)
Would love a measured comparison in highlight detail.
And G3
hope this year's panels make it into some monitors with a glossy finish!
Glossy FTMFW!!
Do we know when they’ll release the new panel WOLED monitors?
It would be nice to see more glossy monitors with antireflective coatings. Only big downside to glossy monitors is how they handle reflections, so having antireflective coatings like what apple does on their monitors would be great.
2nd
Hdtvtest vincent is the best
Wow. You really opened my eyes to the C4 after this!! Especially after your settings were introduced!! 🎉 thanks
I still prefer qd-oled and LG dropping atsc 3.0 is a no go for me I have a good bit of 3.0 in my area can’t wait to check them out
I bet ATSC 3 would already be an established thing if they simply dropped the DRM nonsense. What’s even the point, nobody distributes shows recorded off TV anymore because it has channel logos in the image unlike the streaming versions. They’re just causing problems for OEMs and end users.
Same. My A95K has been a terrific upgrade from my old E8, and a great long term investment, especially with the paltry amount of HDR movie/TV content that can actually meaningfully exceed its HDR capabilities.
Yea def qd oled. I womt go back to woled
Oh man. I was worried ! Glad you’re back. I just got a G4 and I’m in love. Please do a PS5 setup guide !
It’s really that good, huh? I have a C2 and have absolutely loved it. Still do. But, it’s a 55”. Later this year probably around Thanksgiving I’m making the jump to a 77” and the G4’s $4500. That’s a LOT of money to me but I keep hearing that they’re just awesome! You’re over-the-moon delighted with yours?
@@scottmitchell3106 I definitely am! At first, I thought it was too bright, but with the MLA filter enhancing the brightness, it’s not even funny how much better darker detail is. You should be able to get the sale price the first or second week of November as it’s typically Black November the whole month. The c2 is a great tv !
It was a hard decision for me getting either a C4 or the Samsung S90D, I ultimately went with the C4 for the PC gaming features like G-Sync and gaming at 144 Hz for competitive games and dolby visions.
By the time Vincent reviews the Bravia 9, the Bravia 10 will already be out.
All jokes, but looking forward to your B9 review!
I've got an lg c1 and recently bought an s90c for my bedroom.
Both beautiful tvs, but I'll give the Sammy a slight win for snappiness and brightness. The colours pop, even in filmaker mode.
I always felt the LG was just a tad to dim, but i have zero complaints with the sammy.
Both TVs just seem to work, as intended, and PC gaming on either is fantastic.
Would love to see an honest review of the LG C4 v S90C.
I have a C1 right now and will buy a new tv tomorrow. 2 questions
1. in gaming, it’s not true that samsung suffers from motion clarity?
2. is there a big jump from C1 to S90C?
@ratzkykim4204 Hi. I can't really comment on motion clarity.
I'm a casual gamer, but playing RDR 2, looks great on the S90C. Certainly as good as the C1.
I wouldn't say the S90C is a massive upgrade.
The PQ on the C1 is still outstanding (in my eyes anyway)
What you will notice, is a faster O/S and a noticeably brighter screen. Especially in SDR. The colours appear to pop more too. Especially Reds but this could be a Samsung thing??
I think if you want an absolute upgrade over the C1, you'd need to look at the S95D or LGG4.
I needed a second decent tv for my bedroom and the S90C was going for a great price.
If I have one real negative, I'd say low quality SD content doesn't look as good on the S90C.
Do the 42inch and 48inch version have the same 1000nits peak brightness als the bigger ones?
Rtings says they don't, because they lack brightness booster. Perhaps related to lower aperture ratio.
I was wondering this also
Someone on YT measured the 42" C4 to peak at 800 and 150 full screen. Improvement over previous years
Only 55" and above have brightness booster
No. The rtings review of the 42” c4 will be out soon but expect it to reach around 800 nits of peak brightness which is indeed better that the peak output of the 42” c series from prior years.
Okay for me this TV is a winner! If I had the money I would buy it. Especially because I love the new back side design so much.
I have noticed a steady decline, linear regression, these past 2 years or so, when it comes to the witty, dry sexual humor or innuedo's we used to enjoy from Vincent, in his videos. This also goes for audio cues, such as the famous "ding" our ears used to pick up with a certain delight. Why this gradual change in presentation or behavior, i do not know. Only thing i know is ... that i feel saddend.
Because in "todays standards" that seems to be inappropriate...sadly
Because that was Vinnie "2 Minute" Teoh. His twin, the professional TV reviewer Vincent Teoh has taken over.
@@rkeith7766Is that true ? ( Sorry if I'm dumb)
I’m glad that he is not doing that anymore.
because inserting unfunny sexual innuendoes jokes into TV reviews never made any sense
Please could you make a video with the best settings for the LG G4, thanks.
Sony Bravia 9 vs Sony A95L comparison - can't wait for the full breakdown from the best around!
Click as soon as notification, Vinnie’s review is must before buying.
Tvs getting good! Also means way cheaper prices for older models
Motion clarity? Who needs that! We all love blurry gaming...
Rocking my c9 till c5 comes out and bag e bargain on c4 then will upgrade.
Yep still havent had any problems with c8, and beightness wise it was on top at 980 nit peak and is plenty bright. Been waiting c series upgrades to buy but they seem to be so minimal :/ maybe it a good thkng since c8 is still excellent so no need to waste money :D
Rocking the C1 till C6 comes out ;-) :-D
@@schwartzy65
You're right.
@@schwartzy65 exactly 👌🏼
Yo! Fellow LG C9 homie here. 🫡
What about BFI 120Hz at 4K?
Still rocking my C2 because of Vince. :)
I just got a B4, I chose it over the C4 on purpose because I'm using it in a very dark room. The B4 gets plenty bright enough in peak brightness for me, it's pretty uncomfortable actually in some scenes in films already. Alien with the flashing lights or the flames really close to the camera are super bright. I set the Judder to 2, 3 was too much but 2 was just right I found. In dolvy vision I let it default to Game optimisation, the picture was a little brighter and input delay was much better. Like the C4 though there is a green tint when vieweing off angle, it's only on the edges unless you go way out of angle but it's still there. Only cost me £899.
AMAZING deal!!!
I was choosing between b4 and c3, b4 was 999€, c3 was 1149€,
then the weekend i went to the shop to pick up the b4, c3 was discounted to the same 999€ 😆, so i picked up c3 in the end
What size?
Similar experience with B3 77", it's superbright
Even the CX really gets uncomfortably bright during peak scenes for me in a very dark room. But, it does perform very poorly in a bright room tbf.
Am I missing something why is the c4 review so late?
Because he was focusing on the flagships:: LG G4 and Samsung S95D
We get what we get, and we don't pitch a fit.
Thanks Vincent!
Because truthfully you should just get the G4
Great review as usual Vincent. This is the next tv I will be buying and was waiting on more info. I was initially disappointed that the C4 won’t have MLA tech, but seeing the much improved brightness even without MLA has sealed the deal.
Hi Vincent, do you plan on posting another settings recommendation video for gaming consoles and maybe PCs? As there's been some changes to the settings and they're still the best TVs for gaming as it seems.
Also, is it still recommended to enable 4:4:4 pass through for game consoles? I am getting some conflicting opinions from other calibrators.
I'd like some reviews for cheap monitor for ps5 that have vrr
9:00 is the reason why I am here.
please more C4 like the CX times!
Thx for the pic in Tivoli Mr. Theo! Would have loved a chat but did not want to bother you to much in your private time. Thanks again. Kind regards Joost.
Gotta put disclaimers on these for screen sizes seeing as how the smaller versions are gimped.
Thank you Vincent. Just got my 83” C4 last week and am going to find a Calman guy to calibrate it after it has a hundred hours!
Save your money ... here in the video you may learn the C4 is already extremely accurate ootb ... you will not be able to spot a difference with your eyes after calibration !
Where have you been? I have thought you were dead.
Why is BFI not part of your review? I know the 60 Hz flicker is unusable in your opinion which I respect, but the information could still be important for people like me. I’d always choose motion clarity over good brightness accuracy and even the 60 Hz flicker is better than bad motion clarity for me, so I wish that information to be represented in your reviews again. Except that, great review and I’m looking forward to more videos of you. Thanks for your work!
If it’s helpful, I bought the g4 and a95l. I sold the Sony because its motion was terrible. On the other hand, the g4 is the first oled tv where I feel the motion is really good. I’ve owned 4 oleds over the years.
I do not think OLED will have good motion clarity ever. Only in gaming. and 120fps+... Pity, all the rest is amazing, but fast motion will always be terrible in sports, movies, tv, YT. Even 4K@60 fps is too blurry.
BFI on OLED does not work well, especially not for 24/30 fps content.
It hasn't changed a bit in years. No reason to continue to go over that feature if there have been no meaningful changes/updates. Especially on a mid tier model in a busy review season like this.
Between Vincent and Richer Sounds, you cannot go wrong!
Hope the Bravia 9 is next :) !?
@PietroPizzi: Unfortunately we haven't even received a review sample.
@@hdtvtest OMG 😱. Do you know ig they provide you with one in the future? Or is the ship sailed on the B9?
@@hdtvtestmaybe because they are still working on the firmware, dolby vision shows some weird red/green color banding in some sources, but only in darker uniform areas. Ashoka is a good example on disney plus. (S01E01 min. 9-11)
@@hdtvtest Same for Bravia 7? Or can we expect to watch you take on that in the future? Was planning to get either B7 or B9 but I do not get anything without first seeing your review on the TV model.
@@hdtvtest :-(
Your C1 calibration guide for PS5 is still valid for the C4?
I know settings should be similar, but any significant change in the C4 to justify a new guide?
You showed the Bravia 8. When are we getting that review? Currently deciding between C4 and the 8. Thanks
Great job, u explain things well. I trust your judgment but don’t care too much about film maker mode. Ugly but the other modes are just about perfect 👍
Hopefully they will finally implement the MLA in 42" C5... fingers crossed
Not likely. They keep mla for g series.
MLA increase cost = not c series
New chipset does not increase cost = will come to c series
Heat sink increase cost = does not come c series…
If it is free upgrade, it will be in c series. If it does cost extra, it will not be c series…
Yeah FINALLY, it took LG so many years to provide a tangible improvement year over year with the G2 and then now we get a C series OLED that's on par with the G2. At least we got it. Better OLEDs for all!
I still have my CX looking to upgrade soon
Thanks for the information! It helped me select my oled.
Mr Vincent good to see you again you good man help all TV peoples 😉👍
I little late on the hype train, but still the best review out there.
I think I would rather buy the G3. Atleast here it's almost the same price, just a few hundred dollars more.
question would be: is the 42" receiving a brightness boost as well ?
You should do a video addressing the diagonal line issue that all C4 and G4 TV's seem to have. Diagonal lines appear during certain darker (but not too dark) colors, when in motion.
great to see you and your videos again :D
The LG C3 had such a good price that I had to get it. I will wait for the C7 before upgrading 😊
In this year's shootout, the motion-related part was also deleted, inducing Sony to receive an advantageous score.
LG is the best at motion.
Shootout is just a disgusting advert for Sony.
What c4 is brighter now? How bright is it compare to G4?
Please keep showing dark uniformity using moving video like the Dune movie clip in this review. It's much easier to see the vertical banding this way compared to the static 5% gray slides after youtube compression is applied. Raising awareness of such uniformity issues is the best way to get manufacturers to improve it.
Regarding VRR flicker - the issue is definitely not universal among all consumer TVs. Some LCDs (Bravia 9 for example) do not show it. I have not seen any OLED TVs or monitors without it.
Is the c3 as good if u get a deal?
Interesting to see c4 perform like lg g2 without heatsink do you think that they are on the same level picture qualitywise ? Great review as always
Interesting. Does the panel get as hot as the G4s Panel?
Energy Guide indicates +~20% power for the G4. So if the C4 is 40C in a 20C room, the G4 will be 44C. Roughly.
Not based off of what I felt at the store. The G4 definitely radiates heat which I guess makes sense when it is covered in what are effectively magnifying glasses.
@@concinnus I don’t think you can just go by power draw due to the physical properties of the MLA panel.
@@c-samleystudios1573 The vast majority of the power is going into heat, so yes, it's nearly proportional to power draw if the testing procedure is representative. Radiated heat is negligible, and luminous efficiency improvements don't matter much when the base efficiency is low. Granted, I don't know how representative the test procedures are.
@@c-samleystudios1573 I have a 77" G4 and I haven't noticed any notable heat output. Then again, we don't have the TV on all day every day like stores do.
Hey Vincent, are there any news on the Bravia 7 and Bravia 9 reviews?
A great midrange OLED TV that I think most consumers would love to own.😊
thank you, always the most trusted reviews. couple of Qs: at current discounts is the extra £400 for the G4 worth it? Will be using in a room with lots of day light though admittedly, mostly watching at night so brightness/glare might not matter often. Also you don't seem to mention the lower brightness in low-latency mode or the green tint off-axis I have seen in other reviews - thoughts?
When are we getting the reviews for the new Sony Bravia core TVs? Still waiting for them impatiently.
Lg c4 better picture than Sony Bravia 8?
My next tv this fall. Upgrading from a Panasonic vt60 from 2013.
I’ve still got my ZT60. Love that TV. Prefer it over any of my OLEDs. The QD-OLEDs get close, but the motion is never as good.
@@SwampyF4RT Yup the motion handing is just so good on plasma. Its just so natural
I also have a Panasonic plasma, and it still looks great. If you are a gamer, read reviews that mention the brightness drops in gaming and the G4 does not do that. The C4 does.
@@vybo8921 That is good to know
👏👏 Please Vincent , can you test the tcl c955 and hisense u8nq
I see that the 2024 LG OLEDs are still dim in Game Optimizer for SDR and HDR. That has been a problem for years and LG still has not corrected it.
That’s why I got rid of the C1 and replaced it with a S90C. LG grays out almost every picture optioin in Game Optimizer (including screen brightness) which dulls the picture but that is not an issue with a QD-OLED.
The G4 solves that problem.
@@matthewtrujillo6136 The S90C solves that problem for $1000 less and has better color brightness and volume than the G4.
Even in non gaming mode everything is greyed out for me when it's connected to a PC. that's utterly ridiculous. LG should give all the options to the consumers and let them decide for themselves. my next TV will certainly not gonna be LG.
I can't wait to see what Panasonic will do this year! Hopefully they have moved to a more modern picture processor this time. If not I might get an LG instead..
No black frame insertion at all?
Yes it’s there in The true motion menus.
@@iom6666 Is it supported at 120hz? Or only 60hz?
@@deama1560Hz BFI.
LG abandoned 120Hz BFI. They also abandoned ATSC 3.0.
@@deama1560 only
@@deama15120hz stopped with like cx or c1
Suffers the C4 also from green tint off angle and faking the colors like skin tones or sunsets? For me a no go. :(
K bye
Thank you, please continue testing VRR Flicker, this is main thing that will push me to upgrade to new TV. Also with my C1 i get weird issue where when i connect to PC i always get the AI Audio Enabled and i always have to go to settings to change to Cinematic this is really annoying.
Yo brother which is the Best tv for vídeo games consoles right now????
I just connected my pc from the other room to living room c3 evo 55 inch tv woth hdr on. Just wow. Hdmi 2.0 cable does 12 bit 120hz 4K hdr (idk how lol). Games look reaaally goood man.
Just wish LG could include true RGB hardware in addition to what they have done so far with MLA and everything else. It won't be a while before I replace my 2018 LG C8, which is still perfect for me. I'd love EARC and HDMI 2.1, but it's nothing hugley compelling at the moment.
How about that green tint off angle?
I want the C4 - 83inch, waiting on black friday.
Is this an AI generated voice of Vincent??
Please, i have a question, for about the same price, we can purchase a 55C4 or a 55G3, wich is the best ? I think maybe it's the G3 but i need a professional opinion please !
I really didn’t know we couldn’t perceive delta error less than 3. That’s really interesting when it comes to factory calibrations.
Like Vincent said it’s a LG review sample which has been calibrated by lg. it’s not really factory or out of out of the box because it’s not retail sample.
We very much can, even without direct comparison, though that depends on the exact colors in question, nature of the error (hue, saturation or luminance) as well as Delta E standard. Still good enough, though.
In my experience,
No pasteurization. Great TV!
When will they ever add 120hz BFI back. I would buy an LG instantly if they did that. The TVs are bright enough for that now.
Yeah puts me off buying too
Which is better to have one please, Real Cinema or True Motion (cinematic)? We can't have both on I believe. Thanks.
I own an old c7p and its completely covered in burn-in regardless of how meticulous I've been about caring for the screen. Also the aggressive dimming hurts my soul. Im in the market for a new TV so maybe this is the one.
Be careful, 2024 WOLED now uses PWM dithering to display dark details.
QD-OLED is reported to have desaturated colors in dark details.
i'm not saying don't buy x and buy y instead, just that OLED TVs in 2024 are in a weird place.
@@gnaurai6251Good point.
Due to every tv show and movie being pitch black I can often not see anything. I have the older gen C4. What is the BEST OLED/QLED TV I can get that makes these murky, dark scenes watchable? Anything at the 1500-2000 GBP mark. I'm so sick of it. I have to crank the brightness all the way to 100 -- which makes the picture look like garbage. Help me Obi Wan. You're my only hope.
i still have my b9 and c1 and this isn't nearly enough an upgrade from either of them for me to even consider. i'll do it either when these tvs fail, or when something comes along that does 300 nits fullscreen white and 1500 peak luminance
How bad is the lack of colour boost in 144hz game mode?
Was very confused about the title, it almost implies the C4 is using QD, which would be a big surprise indeed
I don't know about oleds any more after my CX lost a bunch of pixels around the edge, developed a strong vertical line of dead pixels, and finally now won't turn on for more than 10 seconds. Repair of the TV is the same cost as a new TV..
How many years did it last though?
The C1 had an issue with dimming dark scenes after a short while. This could be disabled in the service menu. Is this still an issue on newer models?
I'm looking to buy a new 65in TV and it's between the 4k lg C4 or the 65in 8k samsung QN900D can't make my mind up which one would you say is the better TV
Wait another 5 years for 8k. It’s literally pointless now
Hey I saw you have the oled option in the service menu, does that mean that we can now enter without problem to disable TPC GSR?
Hi Vincent - do you know why LG never implemented the use of the screen as a speaker, like SONY do? They announced doing so a few years back, but never brought it to market...
LG could do better job handling near-black tones. Less near-black overshoot suggests they finally figured they don't need to use W subpixel for tones as dark as lowest possible value - the question is if they simply switched to RGB and introduce W subpixel later and if they do then at which luminance level W subpixel is introduced. I guess it was easier to calibrate with current setup and has some benefits in power consumption and burn-in but IMHO LG should never ever cause this near black overshoot and be more perceptive to quality of near-black tones in especially dark room. Their panels are pretty bad in that compared to QD-OLED and knowing theory behind that its easy to understand these panels even without any hardware modifications should be able to deliver better performance.
Still waiting for the B9 review, Vincent.
LG C4 or SAMSUNG S90DD after all if they priced the same for best movie experience?
I bought the C4 42” for my monitor but I had color shift on the edge, awful vrr flicker for desktop use made me return it :( I miss it so much, tempted to buy it again anyways