Just bought this TV a month ago. Coming from a mid tier 2019 LED from LG, which I thought looked pretty good, i was mind blown. Have rewatched all my favorite content on this TV and the experience has been amazing - OLED is NOT overrated. OLED really takes you to another level with immersion, especially for films because you get to dim the lights, and the blacks are blacks, you dont get disrtracted by any blooming, and it has that contrast that makes it look more 3D. I actually ordered the Hisense U8N because apparently had amazing contrast, but quickly cancelled the shipment before it arrived, and decided to go with this to avoid any compromises. Like if you're going to have a TV for many years, and you do enjoy Movies and tv watching as a family activity during the weekneds, it is worth spending a bit more. Its expensive, but not too crazy expensive. If you have the ability to buy one comfortably, just go for it.
No tv will beat the longevity of my tv of 35 years and still going. I want this tv...but it's like chucking my grandmother in the trash if I bought it lol
@@rpospeedwagon he wasn't upgrading from a OLED, he was upgrading from an LCD to an OLED. your C9 is awesome and has almost all the same features as the C4. unless u need a brighter tv, keep your C9, the c9 can do over 800 nits in a 10% window, thats excellent.
Thanks for the update Caleb. However, based on your recommendation we upgraded from our old 55" Sony Bravia 720p to an LG C3 65" TV for abut $1400. Obviously we are stunned. Sports & movies are crazy good. Thanks for doing my research for me and pointing us to a fantastic TV & save us a ton of money.
I've got the 48" LG C4 from Cotsco this week for $699, I'm using it as a monitor, is my first OLED and I'm blown away with the picture quality of this thing, is incredible, definitively getting the 77'' for the entertainment room, thank you for the review.
Not the best price ever, but I found a 48" C4 at Costco. I bought the TCL QM8 75" for the living room from best buy in Feb, but wanted a nice smaller tv for the bedroom. Wanted a 55" but the 48" was $700 with included 3 year warranty and the 55" was like $1300 or something like that. I actually like both my TV's having really good, but uniquely different pictures. LG looks crisp as hell. Perfect for night time movies. I will say the tcl UI and remote is superior overall. Have to train my brain on the different remotes, but the lg doesn't light up and I have a harder time feeling the buttons. All the money went into the wii pointer functionality Funny side story, the 48" barely fit in the trunk in my tiny Subaru 2nd gen BRZ (one of the smallest cars on the market). I ended up bending the trunk frame by the rubber weatherstripping gasket a bit, and tearing the gasket. Oops. I ended up slowly shimmying it little by little from the inside. Didn't notice till I went to close the trunk. I had to cut the box open from inside, and carry it out of the car, to prevent bending the thin aluminum more. I was upset but also laughing at the absurdity of it. People at the costco parking lot and even my neighbors coming home were like "wtf". Only time I've ever needed a bigger car, is when I am buying TV's 😂
Watching this on the LG C4 I bought 3 months ago. I switched from a 2020 4K LED and it is definitely a worth decision. I also think the sound is not as what you expected from this kind of TV, but I’ve been using Sony soundbar since my last TV anyway.
The LG C4 is a great TV. Perhaps its only shortcoming is the noticeable green tint the screen exhibits when viewed from an angle, as documented by the RTINGS review of this model.
The Sony Bravia 8 has the same green tint problem. RTINGS documented it on their review of the Sony Bravia 8. Also the LG B4 has the green tint problem. Rtings documented this as well. It's sad. LG Display seems to have screwed up their panel production this year. I wish Caleb would have mentioned it because it can be seen in his video. Whites have a greenish cast instead of the usual woled bluish cast. To me that's a very serious flaw. I wouldn't buy any woled TVs this year because of it.
@@futureaceone3971 If I were buying a WOLED TV this year, it would probably be the LG G4, but since it is much more expensive I would definitely wait until Black Friday sales to see if it becomes available at a reduced price.
Yes I really wish he would have commented on this issue and whether he saw it on his review unit. Heard that it’s only an issue in the c4 series and not on the c3 series. If that’s true it may not be the tv for everyone.
Thanks I'm assuming this is across the board of all oled tvs this year? I wanted to buy a new tv this year but (I'll but a cheap 2nd hand one) ill give it a miss until they get their panel production sorted.@futureaceone3971
I just bought a 65" C3 a month ago. I think any improvements or enhancements weren't worth the extra $900 they wanted for the C4. I'm not disappointed at all nor do I regret my decision.
I bought a 55" C3 a month ago and it is amazing. I suspect the C4 is marginally better, but I got an amazing deal on the C3. The HDR feels amazing compared with my 5 year old LED TV. The picture is superb. No regrets at all 😁
I also bought my C3 65"about a month+ ago. Ive been waiting for my eye to get used to how awesome the picture looks to where I dont notice it, yet I am still constantly aware of how incredible the picture is. I was actually wondering what his thought would be on the difference between the C3 and C4. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of the difference?
The C4 can actually hit 1000nits peak brightness which is sort of like a milestone when it comes to HDR standards. C3 gets up to about 820 ISH. In real world content I don't know if you'll notice massive differences but it is a significant boost on paper. So I can understand the premium they are charging
I recently bought the LG C3 55 inch tv. I love it, it's an excellent tv. I don't quite get that "magic motion" feature on the remote. Not sure if I missed out on much by not buying the most recent model but I got a very good deal, and Amazon delivered to my apt., unboxed, set up and turned on the set for $30. I am happy I bought this tv with it's amazing picture!
Got this deal too. Wish they stocked or carried the 42in for a similar price. I literally could not let the 699 48in deal pass up, I think these will be sought after in a few years and retain their value. Basically got a 1200 tv for 700, with 3 year warranty. Win!
Great contributions all the time Caleb. I love the "pop" in the color of the LG TV's but when I want the best authentic re-creation, I go to Sony. I have one of each in my home and I love them both for what they do. I have the A80K and just picked up a LG C3 a few months back given the bang-for-the-buck. The comparisons in the store between today's latest LG and Sony still hold the same general find - the "pop" belongs to LG, the accuracy of re-creation as intended, Sony. Well done my friend. Your reviews are spot-on - thank you!
Just bought this 2 weeks ago. It's a very good improvement over my old LG CX. Using CX daily and updating the correct settings on this made it instantly noticeable, especially the brightness for HDR content. Its a lot brighter than im used to but its solid for day time HDR movies aswell. Gaming mode is a lot brighter than CX and feels more sharp and detailed
So true! I fell in love with The C4 at P.C. Richards tonight. I have an LG OLED from either ‘21 or ‘22. 55”. Love it. The older one is going upstairs to Dad whom is using up a very old Samsung LED tv that looks like Coke cans are all over the screen.😂 I can’t wait to see His reaction when He sees what an OLED looks like. I’ll have My C4 on Thursday! Can’t wait! Great review!
Glad for your timely review! Planning on my 65 inch - 2020 LG CX replacement later in the fall. My daughter’s family wants the CX even with 14,000 hours on it. The replacement C4 though will be an upgrade to 77 inches which will be a better fit given the room it will be situated in now that I have experienced the 65 inch size. Question: Did you see any “green tint” - off angle - as noted by RTINGS or is that something LG got fixed with their strong product support updates?
Well that's not really a totally fair comparison between the G3 and the sony A84j is it to be much fair you need to comparison between the G3 and the sony A85K and I had the C3 and exchanged it for the sony xr-65a80l and to my eyes the a80l is more cinematic has better upscaling and colours than the c3 and I'm pretty sure that is the case between the G3 and the A85k
If someone thinks of buying a Scamsung S90D, before doing that, check if that TV has QD-OLED or WOLED. If it has WOLED, don't even think to buy the Samsung one, just get the LG. 42", 48" and 83" are 100% LG Display (as they are the only manufacturers for such displays). In some regions 55" is panel lottery, and 77" 100% is also LG Display (again, in some Regions, like in Europe, Romania). Here in Romania, the WOLED S90D's ends in AEXXH, while QD-OLED S90D's ends in ATXXH. Also, I've seen the same model numbers for other European countries too. So, for my European fellas, avoid the AEXXH models, and get the C4.
Recently picked one of these up for merely the cost of my Best Buy protection plan. My C9 from 2019 had the most minor burn in possible (and only under certain colors) so they exchanged it for me. Pretty nice upgrade overall. Though I will say the cost cutting is obvious when you compare it to the C9 (C9 has a huge stand, more inputs, better remote, attractive backside with finish, sits lower, better power button) I'm ok with all that because I know the tech/panel is cutting edge and the 144Hz was a nice bonus. Best monitor ever.
I've got the C9, But the upper side of the panel just become off-white(the pixles are off) . And my warranty just passed so i need to buy a new one. do you recommend the C4 ? cuz I'm not shore I wannna stay with LG.
@@sheqse Sounds like panel lotto to me, but upgrading to the current model was the easiest choice I've ever made and frankly saved me a ton of time. There was a comparable Sony model for a bit more, but they aren't as good for PC/gaming use. Just get the C4 open box or not from best buy with the 5 year plan and use the hell out of it. Also don't forget a lot of other companies will be using this same LG panel anyway.
I bought the 48 inch version of this one. I got a great sale price at Costco of $1100. I actually use it on my desk as a monitor with the black background documents literally look like they’re floating in air. I do have my Apple TV and Xbox also hooked into it. Very happy post purchase satisfaction.
Bought this in May, and haven’t looked back since! Best electronics decision ever made! Best part is i got it under sale in Malaysia with the 48” for USD750!
I really love your taste and style always so chic. My faves would be the kislux leather backpack and the Swarovski pave diamond ring so gorg. Thank you for your recommendations.
Great review! Sounds like you're a Roku and Apple TV fan. Have you had a go with the Nvidia Shield? I've abandoned my Roku's for the Shield on all my TV's.
Thanks to the LG C4/G4 the C3 model got a huge price cut and pulled the trigger. This is my first Oled TV and...my God, I just can't go back to LCD lol. One of the best purchases EVER!
I was at the local Best Buy here in Canada and was comparing C3 vs Bravia 8. I am a big fan of Sony and was almost disappointed C3 looked so good. Problem was, they were out of stock since it’s a last year’s model and C4 was more expensive than Bravia 8. This morning, or should I say 15 min ago I checked the new prices, and C4 is now on even better sale than Bravia 8 making it cheaper than Sony. Came here to check on your review and really appreciate it. With the BB warranty, I don’t mind not getting LG’s 5 year panel protection as I should be covered by BB warranty. I found C3 to have better connectivity than Sony and TV just looks spectacular. This will be my first LG TV ever and I am hoping built quality and longevity will not disappoint. I am coming from a 9 year old Samsung 8 series 4K led tv and I am sure this will be a major upgrade. Any LG or TV nerds, please feel free to confuse me even more if I should not worry about the purchasing of a LG TV or if Sony Bravia 8 is still a better panel.
Still rocking the 55-inch LG CX from few years ago. No burn in...yet(fingers crossed). Going great for both movie watching & PS5 gaming. Only issue is that I wish it was 65-inch & a bit more brighter. Not a huge deal though & no plans to upgrade anytime soon.
I picked up a 65" LG C4 a few days ago and it has the green tint. I think this issue is more common than people realize. I even checked the display model at the local store and it had the same issue. The salesman called it color degradation and acted like it was normal. Try pausing a picture with faces and lighter background colors and walk to the side and see what it does to the picture. It looks fine when viewing it straight on if that's all you need.
As fate would have it, I was in BB today and had an hour to kill. So off to LG tv land I went. C4 on top. G4 on the bottom. IMHO there was a quite noticeable difference. More saturation but more importantly, a depth I couldn’t put my finger on. Not 3D level but depth nonetheless. Beautiful. Simply beautiful. Damnitall 😂
I can't believe the price of OLEDs these days. In 2016 I spent £2,300 on a C6 and it is still going strong and has never once crashed or caused an issue, and it still wows me every time I watch something! Now look how far they've come and are nearly half the price I paid! I would get a C4 in an instant if I wanted to upgrade from LCD for instance.
I was about to buy the 77" C4, but luckily I was able to see it running in a store in my town, I didn't like the greenish tint when I viewded it from angles, meaning you can tell as soon as you move away from the center. Instead, I got 77" C3 , it looks amazing and doesn't have that greenish tint problem. I know C4 have some new and better features, but I was able to save some money and there aren't huge diferences between the two models.
I will def buy LG , got myself a Samsung S95B a year and half ago and have not been happy with it from day one. My parents LG C1 just seems to have something that the Samsung lacks , maybe it’s the processing, the LG picture signature is more appealing to me even though mine is technically more advanced with the QDOLED technology.
Would you go with an LG C4 or G4 if you watch TV 10 hours a day ( shows news, sports, movies) and the news channels 3 hours a day. Concerned about burn in issues and longevity...
I know they aren't in the same budget ball park, but rtings compared this to the Bravia 9 in a recent video to see if the Bravia 9 could compete with midtier oleds, and it cemented for me I need to waste more money for the Bravia. The scene where wine is poured into a glass for example during their comparison, or the color of the strawberries, made me understand I really value that HDR increase and that I just always seem to have an issue with colors of oled TVs.
I had the C2 for a couple years, but due to unfortunate circumstances I don't have it anymore. I'm in the market for a new TV now, and my budget is lower, but I'm having a REALLY hard time not trying to justify buying another LG OLED. I honestly might get the 42" and just sit closer so I can still have one. The C2 was the best TV I ever owned, without a doubt.
Yeah...noticed it too especially with this review being one day apart with Vincent teoh's LG c4 review......I really the 2019-2022 era ....that was peak TV review years for me.
need some advice. Coming from a 2018 65'" c8. Moving a to a bigger condo (2x the size) corner unit with a lot more sunlight. I don't find my current c8 dim but it could be brighter in sdr. Considering either a 77 G4 or settle for a C4. I use a shield pro to consume my content 95% in SDR. Not sure which one to get but I know i'm loyal to LG.
If brightness is a concern go ahead and get the G4. The TV you have and the c-series are honestly basically the same TV Sure you're getting "different generation panel", put the changes by the panel manufacturer year to year are very small. It essentially be getting the same TV and personally if you're spending $2,000 I'd rather have something with a real improvement and not just better processing The g4 has MLA so there's legitimately something that was changed and improved. Also idk if you know about the 113111 code, but you can really juice up the look of SDR content using that menu with your shield pro. You can make sdr MUCH brighter and more colorful by forcing it into HLG mode.
I'm still rocking my CX (from mainly your review) and love it. I wish it were a bit brighter, but it's hard for me to justify dropping all that money on a new TV. Moving this 65" would feel overkill for any other room.
The lack of a 3.0 tuner is a problem for those who get local news and sports via antenna particularly if they're in a fringe or multipath area. It also offers 1080P instead of 720 on Fox & ABC. This and that I got a 65" A80CL delivered for 1499 with 5 year warranty is why I went with Sony. Also the better processing and Netflix calibrated mode.
@@markholmes1158 Already have that. But that's another box and another remote. This shouldn't be necessary for a 2024 TV when plenty 2023 TVs had 3.0 tuners. Sony, Hisense, etc..
C4 was on sale for 1599 65 inch Labor Day weekend about the same price as C3 before the sale. I purchased c3 back in May for 1499 . Have a little fomo lol
I just bought a LG C4 based on this review. Retired our glorious Panasonic 50 in. Plasma. OLED is far superior. There are lots of settings and filmmaker mode seems best. Had issue with Sony Blueray player, filled the screen image with "millions" of fireflys. Discovered a menu on the Blueray player to adjust output to 4K and disable 24p upscaling. Complaint on this is LG is impossible to "register" or accept "terms of service", thus it would not do "over the air" scan, nor authorize the many aps. I had to find a RUclips video to show steps to tweak Wi-fi settings and change DNS, etc. and that worked. I got the 55 inch due to TV placement, and it's a beauty.
PS> had I known how the "Web OS" is and the pain in the *** to register or set it up, I would have spend more money on the Bravia 8 or something comparable. I had to tweak my wifi setup at home to lock the tv to just one access point, apparently having three Ubiquiti AP's somehow confused the tv so it kept failing to load aps which can't happen until you sign in and agree to terms which it was almost impossible to do. Otherwise the picture quality is out of this world. Hope the OS improves but I have nothing to compare it to since this is my first new TV in 14 years.
that was very good Caleb, I think you should put speakers inside that console that you have the TVs standing on. like the old units from the 50s and 60s. 👍
C3 seems like a viable alternative especially with concern for green tint at angled viewing. Anyone else have thoughts about the two or green tint? (not a gamer)
Honestly I think you should totally skip audio as part of these reviews. It's 2024 and if you're buying a TV this nice, you should have a soundbar paired with it at the minimum. Even if it's wall mounted, you can hang a soundbar to the TV mount below the screen easily.
At 83" size, this is really the only option as Samsung and Sony don't really have competitive offerings. I'll be picking one up at Black Friday unless I can pick up a C3 but those are becoming rare.
you can still increase color volume .Probably without new materials it will be hard for WOLED and QD-OLED to improve their Rec 2020 scores, Both these techs and LCD can produce lovely bright , saturated colors.But it's the hues ( wavelengths ) that are missing. Most content except cartoons, games not affected , unless a TV boosts spread for you, Real life examples really colorful sunsets, rainbows, prisms, emeralds, sapphires, iridescent insect wings, oil spills, some exotic plants and some burning metals . So Rec 2020 increases color graduations ie hues, I think violets are hard to reproduce from memory. Again made be moot if watch old technicolor movies, or if your color vision is so so. I always find it funny old audiophiles worrying about high treble, when they can't hear it - they are lucky to still hear 16-17000 hertz let alone 22 0000. In isolation all these TVs are colorful, you won't know what you are missing, if don't have a S95D right next to be for specific content . LG C series sells well as most people are really happy . Most people also love big screen Hisense. TCL 85' -100" monsters . To put it in perspective a C4 if released 3 years ago , would be raved about as the greatest TV ever - no MLA , no QD-OLED . Content has never looked so good , this is the nearly the perfect TV !!!
@@nimblegoat I had always been in awe of LG’s balanced approach with Color Saturation: Sony’s Accuracy and realism coupled with Samsung’s Bright Saturation… It’s like one found a Haven between the 2 polar opposites.
@@hastensavoir7782 Yeah a nice balance. Think Samsung will bring MLA tech either next year or year after. This is only a small part of the market, most people buy LCD. I still have a plasma, I know HDR looks spectacular but still love my panasonic. I will buy next year in sales. Still undecided if best 65" and wait 4 years to go big , or just get the best 83" next year. Money is not an issue for me, which I am grateful for , but I won't pay a silly price for say B10 83" ( ie a Sony QD-OLED 83" if it comes next year ) , as TVs will be getting better for another 10 years at least . But I know a C4 83" is really good enough to buy and just enjoy ( I watch in darken room )
great review. So funny I started to watch this review on my Android TV but got so many long ads that I finished watching it on my computer. That would be a great question on You asked... Isn't the youtube app on TVs generating way more commercials?
Caleb, will say the same thing next year about the C5! How do I know, he said similar metaphors about the C3. It's great, I'm sure, but your 3 year TV is just as good.
I use a Fire TV 4K stick or 4k player, so I'll never use WebOS apart from the popup settings menu for picture modes etc... so the ads are a none issue. Looking at the 77" C4 end of the year purchase 👍. Also if your spending this much on a TV, your going to be using a soundbar or HT setup worth enough to match that image quality or your doing the TV a disservice.
Great timing for this review to come out!! Labor Day specials just launched and there are some really good deals out!! I’ve been researching the new mini led 85”s to death convinced that the size and brightness were my biggest wants. However… I’ve recently come to realize that the things I don’t like about my Q90C just can’t be much better on any of the new miniLeds :/ That said, I think I’ve decided that for my personal bedroom tv, the best choice is gonna be an OLED.. I wish the G4 but 83” is way too much $$, the 77” is on a crazy good deal on lug partner site, but the real deals are on the C4!! 🎉 after all of my tons of hours researching TVs… I have to agree with you on this “take” the C4 is the best all around Tv for most people especially when on sale!! Plus you get Dolby vision and more importantly dts!! 🎉thank you Caleb and team!
I just bought it to replace my 6 year old 65” LG Oled. It does have better picture and is brighter. It’s just not bright enough for a bright room and has glare. At night, it has beautiful picture.
I had to mount OLED on an articulating wall mount to adjust the 77C1 down/away from normal day or night light glare (windows, doors, overhead lights, lamps, etc...). It really improved viewing in a bright room and the OLED looks the same in every seat because of the TV's ultra wide viewing angle.
I bought an LG C4 77” tv last week, super proud owner of the best tv in the world for the money right now. I have started calibrating and fiddling and figuring out what settings do and were the bottlenecks are only to figure out that after 150-200hrs the tv will become even more efficient and better at quality control. Absolutely insane tv.
There is no universal, absolute “best”- of anything, and certainly no product that can be as future-proof as we’d want. We all have different situations, budgets and use cases, and need to comfortable in the compromises we make in our choices.
i have the 65 lg c9 from 2019 with Hdmi 2.1 and eArc support. Looks perfect and no burn in at all. I have zero interest in a new tv.. but I always wondered if someone was to swap mine with in this case this new C4.. would I notice the difference? Mine still looks perfect. I'm only thinking maybe I would notice the difference if they were side by side with some HDR content where there should be some brightness difference? But non HDR content would look identical I'm thinking. My 2019 also just got a software update that appears to be the same as the new ones.
I have a 55C9 with Sonos Beam and it has been outstanding with +5000 hrs (no gaming). The 55C9 started out as the main TV and now moved to Master bedroom duties. Notice it is a little slower to boot-up streaming services like Netflix/Paramount+ compared to my 77C1; but, both performs and look exactly the same once the show starts. One big advantage the 77" has over my 55" is being able to sit further back for the same resolution to my eyes with the larger screen.
@@mrgold3591 Awesome good to hear.. kinda confirms what I was thinking. I guess the only upgrade that I would notice is a larger one :) .. if my living area would allow it I'd probably do it.
Last year you said you'd do a video on HDR10 v. Dolby Vision video given that Samsung doesn't include it, so I hope when you review the S90D you revisit this topic. Ultimately I know it won't be a deal breaker either way, but outside of Vincent Teoh's video no one has covered this topic much & I'm still interested in your take on it.
C4 doesn't come with a wall mount so an additional purchase for those who want to do a wall mount. The G3 does come with a wall mount and can still be obtained.
LG offers free installation and wall support on the C and G series. I just get my C4 installed on the wall for free with and LG wall support directly from the brand. Same with my G3 (G3 comes with the support on the box).
hey Caleb, thanks for a great review 👍thinking of grabbing one of these but I have a query, can I place a Sonos Beam in front of the stand without it blocking either the screen or any infrared signal in regards to the remote control? thanks 😃
Got super excited about the BDI media console and love some of the options they have but unfortunately I seriously just can't find the exact console you have there in this TV demo. I love that style where the center of the lines widen and vertical but they've got a lot of horizontal stuff...but Damnn those bed frames are nice too. Lots of beautiful furniture...perfect sponsor I found the stand...specifically Crutchfield has it lol
I have a 77" C2 in Texas and a 65" s90c in Wyoming. Both are great TVs. The biggest difference I can notice (TVs obviously not side by side) is the gold armor in the God of War game sparkles on the s90c and it shines on the C2. I don't replace TVs very often so when the TV in Texas needs to be replaced the only certainty is it will get bigger. Odds are I will stop spending time in Wyoming before the s90c needs to be replaced. If I were in the market for a new TV the LG C series would be on the leaderboard.
@@chashint1 S90C has a more accurate game mode compared to previous ones and considering the fact that only the G4 does color boosting in game mode, I'd say the S90C is more accurate. But then again, HDTVTest did bring up an interesting point. When consumer TVs exceed the abilities of the reference monitors, how do you judge them? I think more people will be happy with the S90C. Most people prefer some pop/zing and Samsung always has that. If anyone wants any semblance of accuracy, LG, Sony and Panasonic are the kings.
@@kaiserfakinaway5909 I bought the s90c at the end of May instead of a C3 mostly to try out the QD-OLED technology. While I am very satisfied with the s90c in all regards. It does not diminish my satisfaction with the C2.
Are amzon firesticks fine to use with these new TVs? I see you in videos saying get an apple tv or a roku don't mention firestick. Is there a reason for that?
I bought an LG C3 and Samsung S90C both 77”. I had 4K FIRE STICK on S90C and APPLE 4K TV on the LG C3. I see no difference in Film maker mode in upscaling or picture quality between the two watching HULU, MAX etc… .. BUT … the LG C3 was noticeably dim looking on everything and the S90C had a brighter image making scenes more impactful. Just gave an overall brighter background image to scenes and gave better contrast. I decided to switch the APPLE TV the S90C and put FIRESTICK on the LG C3 to see if anything changed….. WOW… the LG got noticeably brighter no longer dim at all on same movies and scenes. WHY????? I then decided to put both devices on LG C3 on different inputs and played same content from same apps and switched between the two inputs and without any doubt the APPLE TV has a way dimmer image on my LG. Does anyone know why? Also they are both very similar in motion except when watching Football the LG on SMOOTH motion is pretty good where as S90C I can’t get it to not look fluttery.
I will be looking into getting an LG C3 or a C4 and curious, how does this look against a top quality plasma TV? Back then, good plasma could not be beat for 1080p. Are these new OLED akin to plasma in richness, not crushing shadow detail and more? I know they are different technology but what is the same are our eyes.
Saw the G4, C4, Samsung and Sony TV's at Best Buy. The gap between the G4 and C4 is huge. The C4 is so dim compared the G4 ( and S95c). Also the C4 SDR gaming is locked from peak brightness controls. Other than that its a decent TV.
I have a LG nano cell Sm 8200 from 2019. It was the entry level Nano cell model from that year. I am now thinking about buying an Oled C4. I think I'll wait another 2-3 months when it's on sale. Around there in November, it's Black Friday. I'm curious, is the choice of LG c4 good? If anyone knows, I'm interested to see if there is good upscaling of images from lower quality, for example if I watch cable TV, in 720p or 1080p. And how is it for gaming? I also playing games on PS5
I have been using the LG C1 as my gaming monitor and it has some burnin but I had the warranty to cover that so they are going to be replacing it with something of similar price. I am leaning towards the LG Ultragear 32 inch 240 hz 32GS95UE since I found the 48 inch (which was smallest oled you could get at the time) is a bit too big, 42 inch is a little smaller but I feel 32 inch might be more optimal but I am kinda not sure if I should just do the tv or the monitor. The biggest reason I wanted smaller is because of chat windows and ui elements being in corners and having to look around alot more. Any opinions on if you could replace an LG C1 for a computer monitor with the 32 inch ultragear or the 42 inch C4 which would probably be the better option?
Having had my fingers burned with a bad sample of a C3 and then finding out later that both the C3 and C4 suffer from a number of issues, the store i returned my failed sample to said they were not surprised, now that told me something. You take a risk with any brand, but todays TV's should at least last until the warranty expires not after only 2 weeks ! So sorry Caleb, i don't want another one, even for free.
Just bought this TV a month ago. Coming from a mid tier 2019 LED from LG, which I thought looked pretty good, i was mind blown. Have rewatched all my favorite content on this TV and the experience has been amazing - OLED is NOT overrated. OLED really takes you to another level with immersion, especially for films because you get to dim the lights, and the blacks are blacks, you dont get disrtracted by any blooming, and it has that contrast that makes it look more 3D. I actually ordered the Hisense U8N because apparently had amazing contrast, but quickly cancelled the shipment before it arrived, and decided to go with this to avoid any compromises. Like if you're going to have a TV for many years, and you do enjoy Movies and tv watching as a family activity during the weekneds, it is worth spending a bit more. Its expensive, but not too crazy expensive. If you have the ability to buy one comfortably, just go for it.
I have yet to see a compelling reason to upgrade my C9 OLED. It's plenty bright.
Amen friend
No tv will beat the longevity of my tv of 35 years and still going. I want this tv...but it's like chucking my grandmother in the trash if I bought it lol
Oleds won't survive for long tbh
@@rpospeedwagon he wasn't upgrading from a OLED, he was upgrading from an LCD to an OLED. your C9 is awesome and has almost all the same features as the C4. unless u need a brighter tv, keep your C9, the c9 can do over 800 nits in a 10% window, thats excellent.
Thanks for the update Caleb. However, based on your recommendation we upgraded from our old 55" Sony Bravia 720p to an LG C3 65" TV for abut $1400. Obviously we are stunned. Sports & movies are crazy good. Thanks for doing my research for me and pointing us to a fantastic TV & save us a ton of money.
Where did you get the C3? I want a 55 inch but Best Buy said they don’t make that model anymore. I may have to go with the C4
I've got the 48" LG C4 from Cotsco this week for $699, I'm using it as a monitor, is my first OLED and I'm blown away with the picture quality of this thing, is incredible, definitively getting the 77'' for the entertainment room, thank you for the review.
I had like 10 years without buying a TV and got one of these. It looks amazing.
Not the best price ever, but I found a 48" C4 at Costco. I bought the TCL QM8 75" for the living room from best buy in Feb, but wanted a nice smaller tv for the bedroom. Wanted a 55" but the 48" was $700 with included 3 year warranty and the 55" was like $1300 or something like that. I actually like both my TV's having really good, but uniquely different pictures. LG looks crisp as hell. Perfect for night time movies. I will say the tcl UI and remote is superior overall. Have to train my brain on the different remotes, but the lg doesn't light up and I have a harder time feeling the buttons. All the money went into the wii pointer functionality
Funny side story, the 48" barely fit in the trunk in my tiny Subaru 2nd gen BRZ (one of the smallest cars on the market). I ended up bending the trunk frame by the rubber weatherstripping gasket a bit, and tearing the gasket. Oops. I ended up slowly shimmying it little by little from the inside. Didn't notice till I went to close the trunk. I had to cut the box open from inside, and carry it out of the car, to prevent bending the thin aluminum more. I was upset but also laughing at the absurdity of it. People at the costco parking lot and even my neighbors coming home were like "wtf". Only time I've ever needed a bigger car, is when I am buying TV's 😂
Watching this on the LG C4 I bought 3 months ago. I switched from a 2020 4K LED and it is definitely a worth decision.
I also think the sound is not as what you expected from this kind of TV, but I’ve been using Sony soundbar since my last TV anyway.
The LG C4 is a great TV. Perhaps its only shortcoming is the noticeable green tint the screen exhibits when viewed from an angle, as documented by the RTINGS review of this model.
The Sony Bravia 8 has the same green tint problem. RTINGS documented it on their review of the Sony Bravia 8. Also the LG B4 has the green tint problem. Rtings documented this as well. It's sad. LG Display seems to have screwed up their panel production this year. I wish Caleb would have mentioned it because it can be seen in his video. Whites have a greenish cast instead of the usual woled bluish cast. To me that's a very serious flaw. I wouldn't buy any woled TVs this year because of it.
@@futureaceone3971 If I were buying a WOLED TV this year, it would probably be the LG G4, but since it is much more expensive I would definitely wait until Black Friday sales to see if it becomes available at a reduced price.
Yes I really wish he would have commented on this issue and whether he saw it on his review unit. Heard that it’s only an issue in the c4 series and not on the c3 series. If that’s true it may not be the tv for everyone.
Thanks I'm assuming this is across the board of all oled tvs this year? I wanted to buy a new tv this year but (I'll but a cheap 2nd hand one) ill give it a miss until they get their panel production sorted.@futureaceone3971
@@wobble108 The Sony A95L and the Samsung S95D and S90D (all QDOLEDs), as well as the LG G4 (a WOLED) are not affected by the green tint problem.
Such high praise when you say it's the tv everyone should have. Thanks for the review!
I still use my 65 LG C9 from 2019. I’m watching and gaming a lot and still have no burn in. Great tv.
Hey Caleb, the C4 even looks good on my phone. I agree with you It does look like a TV everyone could be happy with.😊
I just bought a 65" C3 a month ago. I think any improvements or enhancements weren't worth the extra $900 they wanted for the C4. I'm not disappointed at all nor do I regret my decision.
I bought a 55" C3 a month ago and it is amazing. I suspect the C4 is marginally better, but I got an amazing deal on the C3. The HDR feels amazing compared with my 5 year old LED TV. The picture is superb. No regrets at all 😁
I also bought my C3 65"about a month+ ago. Ive been waiting for my eye to get used to how awesome the picture looks to where I dont notice it, yet I am still constantly aware of how incredible the picture is. I was actually wondering what his thought would be on the difference between the C3 and C4. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of the difference?
Get the C2 instead. Thanks God bless you. Pick up a nice BDI stand for that old C3.
The C4 can actually hit 1000nits peak brightness which is sort of like a milestone when it comes to HDR standards. C3 gets up to about 820 ISH. In real world content I don't know if you'll notice massive differences but it is a significant boost on paper. So I can understand the premium they are charging
@@markholmes1158 same, I couldn't beat $500 for a new 55" C3
I recently bought the LG C3 55 inch tv. I love it, it's an excellent tv. I don't quite get that "magic motion" feature on the remote. Not sure if I missed out on much by not buying the most recent model but I got a very good deal, and Amazon delivered to my apt., unboxed, set up and turned on the set for $30. I am happy I bought this tv with it's amazing picture!
You bought at the right time. The C3 65 and 77 isn't available where I am now.
Thanks for the review. I picked up a 48" C4 at my local costco for 699.97! Very happy with that deal and the TV xD
Got this deal too. Wish they stocked or carried the 42in for a similar price. I literally could not let the 699 48in deal pass up, I think these will be sought after in a few years and retain their value. Basically got a 1200 tv for 700, with 3 year warranty. Win!
Great contributions all the time Caleb. I love the "pop" in the color of the LG TV's but when I want the best authentic re-creation, I go to Sony. I have one of each in my home and I love them both for what they do. I have the A80K and just picked up a LG C3 a few months back given the bang-for-the-buck. The comparisons in the store between today's latest LG and Sony still hold the same general find - the "pop" belongs to LG, the accuracy of re-creation as intended, Sony. Well done my friend. Your reviews are spot-on - thank you!
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Just bought this 2 weeks ago. It's a very good improvement over my old LG CX. Using CX daily and updating the correct settings on this made it instantly noticeable, especially the brightness for HDR content. Its a lot brighter than im used to but its solid for day time HDR movies aswell. Gaming mode is a lot brighter than CX and feels more sharp and detailed
Nice review. I like that,"You should get it," so I probably will. I'm sold Caleb.
So true! I fell in love with The C4 at P.C. Richards tonight. I have an LG OLED from either ‘21 or ‘22. 55”. Love it. The older one is going upstairs to Dad whom is using up a very old Samsung LED tv that looks like Coke cans are all over the screen.😂 I can’t wait to see His reaction when He sees what an OLED looks like. I’ll have My C4 on Thursday! Can’t wait! Great review!
Glad for your timely review! Planning on my 65 inch - 2020 LG CX replacement later in the fall. My daughter’s family wants the CX even with 14,000 hours on it. The replacement C4 though will be an upgrade to 77 inches which will be a better fit given the room it will be situated in now that I have experienced the 65 inch size.
Question: Did you see any “green tint” - off angle - as noted by RTINGS or is that something LG got fixed with their strong product support updates?
BDI's "awesome prices" mean you only need to sell one kidney.
You know it’s bad when they won’t even list the price on their website 😭
King sized bed is 4400
🤣😂
Lol, or 2 kidneys. Who needs a kidney when u have a BDI product
That goes with the words “natural walnut” 😂
I have one Lg 77 G3 and one 77 Sony A84J, my Sony oled is great ( 2021) but the G3 is another level,
Just amazing , specially now with MLA
Well that's not really a totally fair comparison between the G3 and the sony A84j is it to be much fair you need to comparison between the G3 and the sony A85K and I had the C3 and exchanged it for the sony xr-65a80l and to my eyes the a80l is more cinematic has better upscaling and colours than the c3 and I'm pretty sure that is the case between the G3 and the A85k
If someone thinks of buying a Scamsung S90D, before doing that, check if that TV has QD-OLED or WOLED. If it has WOLED, don't even think to buy the Samsung one, just get the LG.
42", 48" and 83" are 100% LG Display (as they are the only manufacturers for such displays). In some regions 55" is panel lottery, and 77" 100% is also LG Display (again, in some Regions, like in Europe, Romania).
Here in Romania, the WOLED S90D's ends in AEXXH, while QD-OLED S90D's ends in ATXXH. Also, I've seen the same model numbers for other European countries too. So, for my European fellas, avoid the AEXXH models, and get the C4.
Recently picked one of these up for merely the cost of my Best Buy protection plan. My C9 from 2019 had the most minor burn in possible (and only under certain colors) so they exchanged it for me.
Pretty nice upgrade overall. Though I will say the cost cutting is obvious when you compare it to the C9 (C9 has a huge stand, more inputs, better remote, attractive backside with finish, sits lower, better power button) I'm ok with all that because I know the tech/panel is cutting edge and the 144Hz was a nice bonus. Best monitor ever.
I've got the C9, But the upper side of the panel just become off-white(the pixles are off) . And my warranty just passed so i need to buy a new one. do you recommend the C4 ? cuz I'm not shore I wannna stay with LG.
@@sheqse Sounds like panel lotto to me, but upgrading to the current model was the easiest choice I've ever made and frankly saved me a ton of time.
There was a comparable Sony model for a bit more, but they aren't as good for PC/gaming use. Just get the C4 open box or not from best buy with the 5 year plan and use the hell out of it.
Also don't forget a lot of other companies will be using this same LG panel anyway.
@@rushnerd ok, good to hear that ! I think nowadays a TV is not supposed to last ten years like it used to be.
@@sheqsei don’t tbh. It’s a shame it’s 2024 n burn in is still an issue
@@jissanhuq3792 It's not a burn issue. it's an another issue with panel.
I bought the 48 inch version of this one. I got a great sale price at Costco of $1100. I actually use it on my desk as a monitor with the black background documents literally look like they’re floating in air. I do have my Apple TV and Xbox also hooked into it. Very happy post purchase satisfaction.
I use my C1 for over 30 months already. It is a great PC monitor. No sign of burn-in.
Bought this in May, and haven’t looked back since! Best electronics decision ever made!
Best part is i got it under sale in Malaysia with the 48” for USD750!
I really love your taste and style always so chic. My faves would be the kislux leather backpack and the Swarovski pave diamond ring so gorg. Thank you for your recommendations.
Great review! Sounds like you're a Roku and Apple TV fan. Have you had a go with the Nvidia Shield? I've abandoned my Roku's for the Shield on all my TV's.
Thanks to the LG C4/G4 the C3 model got a huge price cut and pulled the trigger. This is my first Oled TV and...my God, I just can't go back to LCD lol. One of the best purchases EVER!
I was at the local Best Buy here in Canada and was comparing C3 vs Bravia 8. I am a big fan of Sony and was almost disappointed C3 looked so good. Problem was, they were out of stock since it’s a last year’s model and C4 was more expensive than Bravia 8. This morning, or should I say 15 min ago I checked the new prices, and C4 is now on even better sale than Bravia 8 making it cheaper than Sony. Came here to check on your review and really appreciate it. With the BB warranty, I don’t mind not getting LG’s 5 year panel protection as I should be covered by BB warranty. I found C3 to have better connectivity than Sony and TV just looks spectacular. This will be my first LG TV ever and I am hoping built quality and longevity will not disappoint. I am coming from a 9 year old Samsung 8 series 4K led tv and I am sure this will be a major upgrade. Any LG or TV nerds, please feel free to confuse me even more if I should not worry about the purchasing of a LG TV or if Sony Bravia 8 is still a better panel.
C4 is better than the Bravia 8 and I’m a Sony fan lol
I got C4 almost two months ago and i love it.
Does it have the green tint at viewing angles as said on Rtings?
@@busterboy7507 Mine doesn't have any green tint.
Still rocking the 55-inch LG CX from few years ago. No burn in...yet(fingers crossed). Going great for both movie watching & PS5 gaming. Only issue is that I wish it was 65-inch & a bit more brighter. Not a huge deal though & no plans to upgrade anytime soon.
Correct. Zero burn in after 4.5 years of my C9. Wow time flies.
@@rpospeedwagonthat’s very lucky, you must not use subtitles. My c9 is terrible
BDI's prices make me wonder, should I buy an entertainment center or a car for the same price
Obviously the entertainment center. It will be around a lot longer than any car at the same price! 😍
I've had a CX for a few years. I love it. I went from a samsung QLED which was great when i got it and still good now, but the OLED is so much nicer
You released this just as I was about to buy this TV! Perfect timing- thank you! FYI, in my region the S90D is about $500-600 more expensive.
I picked up a 65" LG C4 a few days ago and it has the green tint. I think this issue is more common than people realize. I even checked the display model at the local store and it had the same issue. The salesman called it color degradation and acted like it was normal. Try pausing a picture with faces and lighter background colors and walk to the side and see what it does to the picture. It looks fine when viewing it straight on if that's all you need.
Love when Caleb posts a video about a tv I'm researching!
As fate would have it, I was in BB today and had an hour to kill. So off to LG tv land I went. C4 on top. G4 on the bottom. IMHO there was a quite noticeable difference. More saturation but more importantly, a depth I couldn’t put my finger on. Not 3D level but depth nonetheless. Beautiful. Simply beautiful. Damnitall 😂
I can't believe the price of OLEDs these days. In 2016 I spent £2,300 on a C6 and it is still going strong and has never once crashed or caused an issue, and it still wows me every time I watch something!
Now look how far they've come and are nearly half the price I paid! I would get a C4 in an instant if I wanted to upgrade from LCD for instance.
I'm still rocking a C2 and I love it.
I pick 77" LG OLED G4!
I have a BDI console and love it!!
Thank you!
I’ve got an 83” C3 coming in two weeks, can’t wait!
Enjoy your green screen 😅
I've been watching the C3 as well. Maybe I need to visit the actual store to get the best deals.
@@diamatronytsame here. The website shows them at $3,299.99 so unless you go in store, you won’t find that price.
@@GFDthatsMe no you didn't
I was about to buy the 77" C4, but luckily I was able to see it running in a store in my town, I didn't like the greenish tint when I viewded it from angles, meaning you can tell as soon as you move away from the center.
Instead, I got 77" C3 , it looks amazing and doesn't have that greenish tint problem.
I know C4 have some new and better features, but I was able to save some money and there aren't huge diferences between the two models.
I will def buy LG , got myself a Samsung S95B a year and half ago and have not been happy with it from day one. My parents LG C1 just seems to have something that the Samsung lacks , maybe it’s the processing, the LG picture signature is more appealing to me even though mine is technically more advanced with the QDOLED technology.
Would you go with an LG C4 or G4 if you watch TV 10 hours a day ( shows news, sports, movies) and the news channels 3 hours a day. Concerned about burn in issues and longevity...
Hopefully this year we’ll be lucky enough to get a review of the mid-tier Sony OLED from Caleb. His last review was from 2020?
I know they aren't in the same budget ball park, but rtings compared this to the Bravia 9 in a recent video to see if the Bravia 9 could compete with midtier oleds, and it cemented for me I need to waste more money for the Bravia. The scene where wine is poured into a glass for example during their comparison, or the color of the strawberries, made me understand I really value that HDR increase and that I just always seem to have an issue with colors of oled TVs.
I had the C2 for a couple years, but due to unfortunate circumstances I don't have it anymore. I'm in the market for a new TV now, and my budget is lower, but I'm having a REALLY hard time not trying to justify buying another LG OLED. I honestly might get the 42" and just sit closer so I can still have one. The C2 was the best TV I ever owned, without a doubt.
Is this a mere coincidence that all these popular TV reviewers suddenly start reviewing same TV model almost around same time 🤔
Yeah...noticed it too especially with this review being one day apart with Vincent teoh's LG c4 review......I really the 2019-2022 era ....that was peak TV review years for me.
need some advice. Coming from a 2018 65'" c8. Moving a to a bigger condo (2x the size) corner unit with a lot more sunlight. I don't find my current c8 dim but it could be brighter in sdr. Considering either a 77 G4 or settle for a C4. I use a shield pro to consume my content 95% in SDR. Not sure which one to get but I know i'm loyal to LG.
If brightness is a concern go ahead and get the G4.
The TV you have and the c-series are honestly basically the same TV
Sure you're getting "different generation panel", put the changes by the panel manufacturer year to year are very small.
It essentially be getting the same TV and personally if you're spending $2,000 I'd rather have something with a real improvement and not just better processing
The g4 has MLA so there's legitimately something that was changed and improved.
Also idk if you know about the 113111 code, but you can really juice up the look of SDR content using that menu with your shield pro.
You can make sdr MUCH brighter and more colorful by forcing it into HLG mode.
I'm still rocking my CX (from mainly your review) and love it. I wish it were a bit brighter, but it's hard for me to justify dropping all that money on a new TV. Moving this 65" would feel overkill for any other room.
The lack of a 3.0 tuner is a problem for those who get local news and sports via antenna particularly if they're in a fringe or multipath area. It also offers 1080P instead of 720 on Fox & ABC. This and that I got a 65" A80CL delivered for 1499 with 5 year warranty is why I went with Sony. Also the better processing and Netflix calibrated mode.
@@randyduncan795 You could just get a set top box?
@@markholmes1158 Already have that. But that's another box and another remote. This shouldn't be necessary for a 2024 TV when plenty 2023 TVs had 3.0 tuners. Sony, Hisense, etc..
C4 was on sale for 1599 65 inch Labor Day weekend about the same price as C3 before the sale. I purchased c3 back in May for 1499 . Have a little fomo lol
I just bought a LG C4 based on this review. Retired our glorious Panasonic 50 in. Plasma. OLED is far superior. There are lots of settings and filmmaker mode seems best. Had issue with Sony Blueray player, filled the screen image with "millions" of fireflys. Discovered a menu on the Blueray player to adjust output to 4K and disable 24p upscaling. Complaint on this is LG is impossible to "register" or accept "terms of service", thus it would not do "over the air" scan, nor authorize the many aps. I had to find a RUclips video to show steps to tweak Wi-fi settings and change DNS, etc. and that worked. I got the 55 inch due to TV placement, and it's a beauty.
PS> had I known how the "Web OS" is and the pain in the *** to register or set it up, I would have spend more money on the Bravia 8 or something comparable. I had to tweak my wifi setup at home to lock the tv to just one access point, apparently having three Ubiquiti AP's somehow confused the tv so it kept failing to load aps which can't happen until you sign in and agree to terms which it was almost impossible to do. Otherwise the picture quality is out of this world. Hope the OS improves but I have nothing to compare it to since this is my first new TV in 14 years.
that was very good Caleb, I think you should put speakers inside that console that you have the TVs standing on. like the old units from the 50s and 60s. 👍
C3 seems like a viable alternative especially with concern for green tint at angled viewing. Anyone else have thoughts about the two or green tint? (not a gamer)
green tint is real I bought a 48 c4 returned it off angle bad green tint
Honestly I think you should totally skip audio as part of these reviews. It's 2024 and if you're buying a TV this nice, you should have a soundbar paired with it at the minimum. Even if it's wall mounted, you can hang a soundbar to the TV mount below the screen easily.
Truth. Anyone buying this TV most likely knows they are buying the best looking TV on the market and isn't going skimp on the audio.
I have the 77” OLED77C9PUB and love this TV. Didn’t love the price I paid but it’s a solid performer for sure.
At 83" size, this is really the only option as Samsung and Sony don't really have competitive offerings. I'll be picking one up at Black Friday unless I can pick up a C3 but those are becoming rare.
Picked this TV over this years TCL QM8 and have zero regrets, once you experience OLED nothing else matches up.
Naw you need both
I have a C2 and I love it.
Are WOLEDs getting any more Colorful? Haven’t WOLED tech been Maxed out just yet since like 2022?
you can still increase color volume .Probably without new materials it will be hard for WOLED and QD-OLED to improve their Rec 2020 scores, Both these techs and LCD can produce lovely bright , saturated colors.But it's the hues ( wavelengths ) that are missing. Most content except cartoons, games not affected , unless a TV boosts spread for you, Real life examples really colorful sunsets, rainbows, prisms, emeralds, sapphires, iridescent insect wings, oil spills, some exotic plants and some burning metals .
So Rec 2020 increases color graduations ie hues, I think violets are hard to reproduce from memory.
Again made be moot if watch old technicolor movies, or if your color vision is so so. I always find it funny old audiophiles worrying about high treble, when they can't hear it - they are lucky to still hear 16-17000 hertz let alone 22 0000.
In isolation all these TVs are colorful, you won't know what you are missing, if don't have a S95D right next to be for specific content . LG C series sells well as most people are really happy . Most people also love big screen Hisense. TCL 85' -100" monsters .
To put it in perspective a C4 if released 3 years ago , would be raved about as the greatest TV ever - no MLA , no QD-OLED . Content has never looked so good , this is the nearly the perfect TV !!!
@@nimblegoat I had always been in awe of LG’s balanced approach with Color Saturation: Sony’s Accuracy and realism coupled with Samsung’s Bright Saturation… It’s like one found a Haven between the 2 polar opposites.
@@hastensavoir7782 Yeah a nice balance. Think Samsung will bring MLA tech either next year or year after. This is only a small part of the market, most people buy LCD. I still have a plasma, I know HDR looks spectacular but still love my panasonic. I will buy next year in sales. Still undecided if best 65" and wait 4 years to go big , or just get the best 83" next year. Money is not an issue for me, which I am grateful for , but I won't pay a silly price for say B10 83" ( ie a Sony QD-OLED 83" if it comes next year ) , as TVs will be getting better for another 10 years at least . But I know a C4 83" is really good enough to buy and just enjoy ( I watch in darken room )
Cant wait for the review of the Hisense U7N!!!
great review. So funny I started to watch this review on my Android TV but got so many long ads that I finished watching it on my computer. That would be a great question on You asked... Isn't the youtube app on TVs generating way more commercials?
Caleb, will say the same thing next year about the C5! How do I know, he said similar metaphors about the C3. It's great, I'm sure, but your 3 year TV is just as good.
I still have my lg cx and love it.. I doubt the picture on this tv is noticeably better
I use a Fire TV 4K stick or 4k player, so I'll never use WebOS apart from the popup settings menu for picture modes etc... so the ads are a none issue. Looking at the 77" C4 end of the year purchase 👍. Also if your spending this much on a TV, your going to be using a soundbar or HT setup worth enough to match that image quality or your doing the TV a disservice.
Great timing for this review to come out!! Labor Day specials just launched and there are some really good deals out!! I’ve been researching the new mini led 85”s to death convinced that the size and brightness were my biggest wants.
However… I’ve recently come to realize that the things I don’t like about my Q90C just can’t be much better on any of the new miniLeds :/
That said, I think I’ve decided that for my personal bedroom tv, the best choice is gonna be an OLED.. I wish the G4 but 83” is way too much $$, the 77” is on a crazy good deal on lug partner site, but the real deals are on the C4!! 🎉 after all of my tons of hours researching TVs…
I have to agree with you on this “take” the C4 is the best all around Tv for most people especially when on sale!! Plus you get Dolby vision and more importantly dts!! 🎉thank you Caleb and team!
I just bought it to replace my 6 year old 65” LG Oled. It does have better picture and is brighter. It’s just not bright enough for a bright room and has glare. At night, it has beautiful picture.
I had to mount OLED on an articulating wall mount to adjust the 77C1 down/away from normal day or night light glare (windows, doors, overhead lights, lamps, etc...). It really improved viewing in a bright room and the OLED looks the same in every seat because of the TV's ultra wide viewing angle.
I bought an LG C4 77” tv last week, super proud owner of the best tv in the world for the money right now.
I have started calibrating and fiddling and figuring out what settings do and were the bottlenecks are only to figure out that after 150-200hrs the tv will become even more efficient and better at quality control. Absolutely insane tv.
What are you upgrading from?
@@bubepube7792 Only when it comes to picture quality. Otherwise it has too many drawbacks. LG C series is still the best overall for the money.
Sony A95L is the best TV !!!!!!
There is no universal, absolute “best”- of anything, and certainly no product that can be as future-proof as we’d want.
We all have different situations, budgets and use cases, and need to comfortable in the compromises we make in our choices.
@@fonkenful Of course people have budgets. But there is a best TV. The Sony A95L.
I have a 77" LG C2 great TV
love my c4 !!!
i have the 65 lg c9 from 2019 with Hdmi 2.1 and eArc support. Looks perfect and no burn in at all. I have zero interest in a new tv.. but I always wondered if someone was to swap mine with in this case this new C4.. would I notice the difference? Mine still looks perfect. I'm only thinking maybe I would notice the difference if they were side by side with some HDR content where there should be some brightness difference? But non HDR content would look identical I'm thinking. My 2019 also just got a software update that appears to be the same as the new ones.
I have a 55C9 with Sonos Beam and it has been outstanding with +5000 hrs (no gaming). The 55C9 started out as the main TV and now moved to Master bedroom duties. Notice it is a little slower to boot-up streaming services like Netflix/Paramount+ compared to my 77C1; but, both performs and look exactly the same once the show starts. One big advantage the 77" has over my 55" is being able to sit further back for the same resolution to my eyes with the larger screen.
@@mrgold3591 Awesome good to hear.. kinda confirms what I was thinking. I guess the only upgrade that I would notice is a larger one :) .. if my living area would allow it I'd probably do it.
Last year you said you'd do a video on HDR10 v. Dolby Vision video given that Samsung doesn't include it, so I hope when you review the S90D you revisit this topic. Ultimately I know it won't be a deal breaker either way, but outside of Vincent Teoh's video no one has covered this topic much & I'm still interested in your take on it.
Just got a 65 c4 and love it
Great video as always :) i think I stick with my lg c1 for a few more years though :) it still works great.
get the s90c if it's still available or g3 if you want to get a c4
C4 doesn't come with a wall mount so an additional purchase for those who want to do a wall mount. The G3 does come with a wall mount and can still be obtained.
LG offers free installation and wall support on the C and G series. I just get my C4 installed on the wall for free with and LG wall support directly from the brand. Same with my G3 (G3 comes with the support on the box).
Upgrade few months later to 77C4. Waiting for serious good price early 2025. I have now the (fantastic) 65CX.
The 77” C4 is on a crazy Labor Day sale which includes the S90 soundbar for free on the partner site. If you know anyone ;)
hey Caleb, thanks for a great review 👍thinking of grabbing one of these but I have a query, can I place a Sonos Beam in front of the stand without it blocking either the screen or any infrared signal in regards to the remote control? thanks 😃
Got super excited about the BDI media console and love some of the options they have but unfortunately I seriously just can't find the exact console you have there in this TV demo. I love that style where the center of the lines widen and vertical but they've got a lot of horizontal stuff...but Damnn those bed frames are nice too. Lots of beautiful furniture...perfect sponsor I found the stand...specifically Crutchfield has it lol
Glad you found it!
@bdifurniture Whoa HI lol. Yeah yallve got some immaculate wood work. Can't decide between some of the tables and stands cause they all look good
How is the SDR Game Mode brightness? Did you measure the nits?
Caleb, which one do you pick? 77" C4 or G3?!
G3 for sure
If the price is the same, G3 for sure.
G3
G3.
He would choose G3, no doubt.
What would you choose between a c4 and a g3, given that they have a similar price now?
I have a 77" C2 in Texas and a 65" s90c in Wyoming. Both are great TVs. The biggest difference I can notice (TVs obviously not side by side) is the gold armor in the God of War game sparkles on the s90c and it shines on the C2. I don't replace TVs very often so when the TV in Texas needs to be replaced the only certainty is it will get bigger. Odds are I will stop spending time in Wyoming before the s90c needs to be replaced.
If I were in the market for a new TV the LG C series would be on the leaderboard.
So is sparkling or shining the intended effect?
@@JesterOC I truly don’t know. I could see how either one of them could be “creator’s intent”. Both effects are quite pleasant to look at.
@@chashint1 S90C has a more accurate game mode compared to previous ones and considering the fact that only the G4 does color boosting in game mode, I'd say the S90C is more accurate.
But then again, HDTVTest did bring up an interesting point. When consumer TVs exceed the abilities of the reference monitors, how do you judge them?
I think more people will be happy with the S90C. Most people prefer some pop/zing and Samsung always has that. If anyone wants any semblance of accuracy, LG, Sony and Panasonic are the kings.
@@kaiserfakinaway5909 I bought the s90c at the end of May instead of a C3 mostly to try out the QD-OLED technology. While I am very satisfied with the s90c in all regards. It does not diminish my satisfaction with the C2.
Are amzon firesticks fine to use with these new TVs? I see you in videos saying get an apple tv or a roku don't mention firestick. Is there a reason for that?
I use an Amazon Fire stick with my LG C3, it works just fine
I bought an LG C3 and Samsung S90C both 77”. I had 4K FIRE STICK on S90C and APPLE 4K TV on the LG C3. I see no difference in Film maker mode in upscaling or picture quality between the two watching HULU, MAX etc… .. BUT … the LG C3 was noticeably dim looking on everything and the S90C had a brighter image making scenes more impactful. Just gave an overall brighter background image to scenes and gave better contrast.
I decided to switch the APPLE TV the S90C and put FIRESTICK on the LG C3 to see if anything changed….. WOW… the LG got noticeably brighter no longer dim at all on same movies and scenes. WHY????? I then decided to put both devices on LG C3 on different inputs and played same content from same apps and switched between the two inputs and without any doubt the APPLE TV has a way dimmer image on my LG. Does anyone know why?
Also they are both very similar in motion except when watching Football the LG on SMOOTH motion is pretty good where as S90C I can’t get it to not look fluttery.
I will be looking into getting an LG C3 or a C4 and curious, how does this look against a top quality plasma TV? Back then, good plasma could not be beat for 1080p. Are these new OLED akin to plasma in richness, not crushing shadow detail and more? I know they are different technology but what is the same are our eyes.
For me it will be the 77 inch LG G4 currently we have the 65 inch lg nano cell led 4k tv
Been waiting for this one! 🍿
Hey, Mr. Denison, when are you reviewing the Sony Bravia 8 and comparing it to the Sony Bravia A80L?
Please reply to me, Caleb!
C4 or S90D? I am looking into these 2 TVs and since they are similar in price, I'd like to get the best between these 2.
Thanks.
Trying to decide if I should get a 77” G4 or 86” C3/C4….Any advice? I have a C8 today and super happy with it! Need a bigger TV now 🤩🤩.
Saw the G4, C4, Samsung and Sony TV's at Best Buy. The gap between the G4 and C4 is huge. The C4 is so dim compared the G4 ( and S95c). Also the C4 SDR gaming is locked from peak brightness controls. Other than that its a decent TV.
I have a LG nano cell Sm 8200 from 2019. It was the entry level Nano cell model from that year. I am now thinking about buying an Oled C4. I think I'll wait another 2-3 months when it's on sale. Around there in November, it's Black Friday. I'm curious, is the choice of LG c4 good? If anyone knows, I'm interested to see if there is good upscaling of images from lower quality, for example if I watch cable TV, in 720p or 1080p. And how is it for gaming? I also playing games on PS5
When u compare it to g2 do they perfom similar ? Based on numbers they should :)
I have yet to see a reason to upgrade my C9. It's beyond bright enough.
I got a Samsung OLED in May. We have been very disappointed in it. Wish I had researched before buying. I’m gonna check the LG out.
Why? I have an S95B and it’s been great: it’s fast (now) and the image/sound are fabulous!!!
In my country the G3 is the same price as the c4, which one should I get?
I have been using the LG C1 as my gaming monitor and it has some burnin but I had the warranty to cover that so they are going to be replacing it with something of similar price. I am leaning towards the LG Ultragear 32 inch 240 hz 32GS95UE since I found the 48 inch (which was smallest oled you could get at the time) is a bit too big, 42 inch is a little smaller but I feel 32 inch might be more optimal but I am kinda not sure if I should just do the tv or the monitor. The biggest reason I wanted smaller is because of chat windows and ui elements being in corners and having to look around alot more.
Any opinions on if you could replace an LG C1 for a computer monitor with the 32 inch ultragear or the 42 inch C4 which would probably be the better option?
Having had my fingers burned with a bad sample of a C3 and then finding out later
that both the C3 and C4 suffer from a number of issues, the store i returned my failed
sample to said they were not surprised, now that told me something.
You take a risk with any brand, but todays TV's should at least last until the warranty expires
not after only 2 weeks !
So sorry Caleb, i don't want another one, even for free.
You've just given me the target for black friday/cyber monday this year. TYVM!