you should look into this github paage i found by a guy named dylan raga. called windows hdr srgb to gamma 2.2 or something. I don't hear windows terrible tone mapping being talked about enough, and this fixes that.
@@drunkhusband6257 the heck are you on about? Contrast and max brightness plays a roles. Theres also dimming zones, back light alg and additional input lag (if youre not using oled)
MSI is going for 900-950 Alienware goes for 999(sometimes) Msi also sells one for 4k165hz for 800 rn (this is US pricing) Same panel for all of these as the Asus, don't scam yourself Also the MSI 27' 1440p360hz are 800 as well
Asus is like 1600-1700$ here in Europe in my region,either Msi or gigabyte 1200-1300 $Alienware is 1000$ for the same panel😂 I picked Aw its really good.
These are in high demand. The fact that he got the full warranty I'd say it's worth it. Although this doesn't change that I think this specific model is overpriced.
@@googlewolly A month ago people were on waiting lists for 32" 4k OLEDs. He didn't mention if stock was why he got his open box, but no doubt that was going to get snatched up quick.
130 bucks less, one of the best OLEDs, 3-year warranty still on it (let's assume Asus will honor it) and its only open box, meaning there's a high likelihood that the previous owner just opened it and return it for any reason besides the monitor itself? Yeah, 130 bucks is enough for the majority. I think that would only apply to LCDs since OLED monitors are in high demand.
One thing with the image that people dont seem to notice is the absolute uniforminity of the image, every single edge of the screen just displays content without any bleeding backlights, no contrast shifts. It's not really something you think much about until you see it live. I personally am spoiled by just how great the 100% screen image quality is. As for HDR, due to the contrast i think it looks significantly better than mini led. The only thing i liked about mini led was its peak sdr brightness, but bleeding that brightness into HDR(RTX and auto) kind of ruins the effect. ABL on the other hand can be a bother in some instances, but those were rare for me. Shit just blows me away, when the HDR really kicks in. Sime scenes in elden ring, the scenes with proper black levels, or the intro stage in gears 5 when your wakking through a pitch black cave and the brightness of your armors "hey im a friendly" just pop in ways they just cant in sdr.
got my 1440p 240hz IPS for 280$ a couple months ago, i aint complaining, cant go wrong with IPS at that price, OLED is such a big price jump, LCD is still best value by far.
Any IPS has IPS glow, it's just a function of view point. Move yourself further or use longer focal length camera and it disappears. While bleed is manufacturing problem that doesn't change with viewing position.
Yeah, I would never go IPS again because of the glow. My current monitor is absolutely unusable without the lights and a lamp on or all i can see is the glow at the bottom left lol.
One aspect often overlooked in the LCD vs. OLED debate is the parallax effect that occurs near the edges of an LCD panel due to its polarization layer. While this issue is mainly noticeable on larger (32"+) flat panels, it can become quite irritating, especially if you use software with very thin or narrow scroll bars. OLEDs don't have this issue at all, next to the pure blacks and insane pixel response times, it's something that instantly stood out to me.
@engjds Bro just stop with nonsense, I've had an oled tv for 6 years no burn in. And a oled monitor for 2 years no burn in. Yes both will eventually go out like any electronic. Guess if your poor it's an issue , if you want the best a 6 or 7 years oled is perfect.
The 3 big cons of OLED: 1. Expensive. 2. Burn-in risk. 3. Dimmer full screen brightness, might not look as nice as LCD in day time scenes depending on preference. Outside of the above, OLED is literally better in everything else.
I get the best of both worlds by having a decent 4k 32" monitor for productivity, and a 65" LG C4 as a secondary monitor. Works perfectly for the games I enjoy since I'm no longer super interested in competitive shooters and such. Helldivers 2, Alan Wake, Dead Space have all been a blast and looked amazing on the big screen. All the caveats are kind of expected when you're at the bleeding edge of tech. That being said I fully expect to get at least 5 years of life out of the C4 since my old 55" C7 lasted the same amount of time before it started to show burn in - and today's panels are much more resilient than before.
@@ThisisCitrus Nope. Rting and Hardware Unboxed are both conducting accelerated burn-in tests. They are still present. While Rtings focuses on TVs and often older models, Hardware Unboxed sees burn-in as quickly as 3 months of worse case scenario type stress test on more modern OLED monitors. It is still a risk and care still need to be taken if you want your OLED to last.
@@SashimiSteak Their tests prove its not an issue. They are running the display 24/7 on a static screen without using pixel cleaning and it took years of watch time for burn in to show. Its a non issue.
@@ThisisCitrusThe way I interpret it is if it happens at all, it is a risk. To have to adjust the way you use the screen to minimise that risk, it is still a con.
The biggest thing when looking for oled monitors is sales. All these monitors that are well over a $1000 are constantly on sale. The one I got which is a $1500 one I got on sale for $800 and at that price I think it's absolutely worth getting an OLED and I've even seen some OLEDs as low as just under $600
Il say it straight if you work that much on your PC don't get oled that simple oled r made for mainly entertainment so gaming etc and casual browsing soif you mainly work on it for 8 hrs you will get get burn in with in a year because on the channel monitor unboxed he tried to use a oled monitor for work only so 8 hrs a day so after 3 months or so he all ready got signs of burn in so my guess before he hits 1 year he will get burn in since he uses the monitor for only work so in your case 8 to 10 hrs work is a no go so get a mini LED instead better for what you do until micro OLED comes but that's far away than it's no burn in risk
@@3borsresistance551 yes but it depends how much you work because Tim from monitor unboxed worked on his pc 8 hrs a day for 3 months and he got sign of burn in so you need to be specific because if you don't than your comment has 0 value because some work 3 some less some alot more so you need to be specific but my guess you don't work 8 hrs a day on your OLED if you did you would have signs of burn in all ready that simple since Tim all ready did a 3 months testing
The problem with HDR is that the _games_ often don't implement it well - in fact sometimes games implement it really poorly. RUclips channels like GamingTech do a lot of game testing and can tell you which games are worth playing in HDR and which can be skipped - and which will look good if you use the settings they found.
Windows also freaks out if you have more than one display in HDR mode. Moving windows to ither virtual desktop workspaces is just flat out broken on all but the main display. It’s such a headache I have decided it’s not worth turning on at all.
There is a significant difference between OLED monitors and TVs. Usually TVs are brighter and larger which again makes it seem even brighter. To me HDR is a HUGE selling point, and really does make a massive difference in movies and games. The colors, shadows and highlights just stand out so much.
That's why I went with a VA panel. Really high contrast, almost pitch black. No ghosting on my particular model at 240hz. It is 1080p but it was 1/10th of the price of this oled monitor. It's also more vibrant than the ips monitors I've used.
One thing to note that a lot of people miss is that low fps content looks worse on OLED. If you’re in the 30fps range it almost looks like a shutter door since the frames are displayed so quickly, you lose that blur between frames that traditional led monitors produce. I have a hard time playing console titles or on switch in 30fps on my OLED’s even when using motion smoothing features. Just some food for thought.
If you're playing ANYTHING in the 30 fps range when you can afford an OLED monitor, your priorities are messed up and should probably have bought a better graphics card
@@mikaeo23 Yeah I’ll be sure to get a better graphics card for my Switch and PS5 exclusives 🤣 I play on all platforms and don’t limit myself to PC only. My comment is there to educate those who aren’t aware of those cons. I’d be willing to bet I have more experience with OLED and better hardware in my PC than you do.
love the trend that people move to TVs as monitors! (why place 25" monitors side by side when you can just place a 50" TV on the table, haha) There are little to no drawbacks imo since multiple screens and wider screens became the norm for gaming focused setups. I use my 50" TV often in 21:9 for games like Cyberpunk and it's just plain awesome^^
i play on a 65" Samsung QN90A QLED......looks very close to OLED, brighter, and peace of mind that ten years from now there will still be no burn in on my expensive display. I can live with the little blooming I get from time to time.
Yeah 43 inch QN90B is working great. It's around 100ppi so text is nice and sharp sitting at the desk and I have a sofa close to it for use as a tv/gamepad games
@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these: Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3 MSI MPG 271QRX Alienware AW2725DF You can probably find one of them on sale, and all come well-reviewed by "Monitors Unboxed". *Warning*: when you see how good these look you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these: Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3 MSI MPG 271QRX Alienware AW2725DF You will probably find at least one of these on sale, and all are reviewed and recommended by "Monitors Unboxed". *WARNING*: After seeing how good these look, you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
I think you should buy tv like 42"-48" LG c4. They are cheaper and 42"-48" is better suited for 4k resolution. 32" is super small for 4k. I have 48" LG c1 and it was best thing i have done.
I've gone from 1440p tn to 1440p OLED and it is amazing. I've used HDR twice in almost a year though. HDR... is impressive gimmick for now. There is no better SDR monitor than OLED.
After using First Gen qd oled, in terms of HDR, the problem is that 1000 nits mode, decreases average picture brightness by half when u reach specific scene brightness (it does it to keep that nit difference), making HDR 450 true black overall brighter minus highlights (as it doesn't dim nearly as much). Still if overall picture is super bright youre so close to it's 250 nits limit, that even SDR at around 100% will look the same. Monitor is just unable to make anything pop when overall scene is too bright. MLA WOLED is better for HDR now for like 1-15% highlights, but... there is no glossy finish which I grew to like. Keep that in mind folks. Can't wait for next gen WOLED but without matte finish, possibly 300 nits at fullscreen white.
I bought the first round of 1440p 240hz OLEDs. They are overrated. Is it nice? Yes, but these RUclips channels sold them like the second coming of christ and it is disingenuous. Hell, most game's implementation of HDR is ASS. Get a quality IPS for half the price.
For the longest time of my life I used PCs I somehow managed to scrap together that where barely running. But I had a great time with friends gaming hours on end. Now I have a 4000€ PC, that ASUS Monitor, VR Headset and so on but only like 5 hours per week to play … adulthood sucks sometimes lol. But when I’m using it I’m always blown away how far gaming tech has come.
I only care about input lag, Response time, and FPS for Rocket League. I currently have a 280hz IPS LCD from asus abojt 3 years old. How drastic will it be to move to a 360hz 1440p OLED on rocket league?
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I have the 360hz oled, and I would say it's not much of a difference in RL (I play a ton of RL), but in other games like Overwatch, or Valorant, etc where you are whipping your mouse around and snapping on people you can definitely tell a difference.
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I switched from 144hz IPS to 240hz OLED and the difference is amazing. I've heard that the jump from 240hz to 360hz is small but definitely noticeable, but I think in your case the biggest improvement would be the switch to OLED. The quick response times of OLEDs have very little to do with input lag, its just how quickly a pixel can switch from one color to another. Faster response times result in better motion clarity, with less ghosting and motion blur. High refresh rate OLEDs feel so nice to game on because you can see everything clearly, even in fast motion. I will say the longer you can wait, the cheaper and better OLEDs will become. 280hz IPS is still a great monitor and I wouldn't really feel the need to upgrade to a $1000+ monitor right now unless you have the money to spend, and really care about the better motion clarity and contrast ratios.
0:45 i know i have it but its still awesome , its 2 1440p oleds mashed together so you can game while having youtube or a guide on the side , but ive never used it this way cause i baby it scared of burn in but yet i know play one game so im making it vulnerable to burn in
Well yeah once you experience something better that what you're used to you will not want to go back. It's like switching from 720p square screen from 15 years ago to 4K UW this year, ain't no way someone's going back with that.
Depends on how much you value the image quality. I have an LG OLED and IPS panels side-by-side by I mainly use the IPS. I leave the OLED for movies and such. Doesn't really matter in most games, I don't play them for visuals anyways. And text looks sharper on 1440p ips compared to 4k OLED thanks to Microsoft not implementing cleartype for WRGB subpixel layout.
Hey. I have that exact LG model too. I am also extremely pleased with the purchase. One problem I have with it is that sometimes, the USB hub just DOESN'T WANT TO F***ING WORK!!! Biggest improvement to it was peeling off the obnoxiously well glued on g-sync sticker.
1440p looks sharp on a 27" monitor, if 32" go for 4k would be better. Plus, it also depends on the quality of your 1440p monitor display like panel, color gamut, contrast, etc... Some 1440p IPS panel does comes with low contrast but some looks fine. Of course, it also depends on the "budget"...
@@strider029 👍 I found that those I mentioned above is ideal inches for different resolution, but not super bad. It is because I found that a lot of users said that 1080p is lousy, pixelated, blur, etc. End up they were talking about 27" 1080p😅😅 For 1080p, it looks sharp if go for 23.8" / 24". Same scenario for 27" 1440p and 32" 4k, ideal perception.
Contrast is normally factory set at a default value and does not require an adjustment on modern monitors. If you adjust it in any direction, clipping happens and you get blown out whites and crushed blacks. If you don't know the default position, reset the monitor to factory settings. If you need better contrast, calibrate your monitor with a good colorimeter to BT.2020.
I’m coming from a 1080p 144hrtz monitor to a 32in 4k OLED 240hrtz this next week. Got a rtx 4090 and 7800x3d PC coming from a 2070 super. can’t wait :)
@@DerekMoore82 i did it i mean something similar went from 1650 super to 4080 super just work hard and i saved up for years and finally got the setup i wanted
@Paule9511 Why didn't I think of that? I'll just go out and start working for myself tomorrow and be rich, thanks for the advice! You should really tell more people, if everyone knew about this totally doable advice of yours, there would be no poor people, and we'd all work for ourselves! Of course... then we wouldn't have any employees... I guess we'll just have to keep this super convenient advice of yours a secret so we'll have some people left to work for us!
I've had the Alienware AW3423DW since 2022, paid approximately $1300 for it, and I can say with absolute certainty that it is definitely one of the most significant upgrades I've made, and HDR is no joke.
OLEDS for PC are great for people with a lot of money. Not because they are expesive but because you'll have to replace them after 2-4 years. I recently replaced my old dual monitor setup with basically the same thing, except for better specs (higher res and Hz) but I stayed on IPS - the last setup lasted me almost 10 years - I got my money's worth threefold and I sold it for 1/4 of the buying price. I'm not hating on OLED but most people just don't have the infinite sack of coins to replace stuff so often. My father-in-law has an OLED TV and he watches a single info channes with yellow info bar constantly. The pixels in that area resebme ash. The TV is 3 years old. And don't get me wrong, IPS has it's own problems like backlight bleed and washed out blacks compared to OLED. I just think they are less of a problem in the long term. Cheers
While I do agree 100% with you, I also hope OLED's burn issue will be fixed or at least improved 4 to 5 years from now, and I hope that prices will go down too.
Yeah, I only got one because I saw how well burn in tests running worst case scenarios are doing in recent years. I hope mine will last me more than 5 years, but if not, it was a cool experience and I will probably switch to microLED when they are hopefully more common.
Just whatever you do, absolutely dont buy a monitor with a VA panel,IPS or OLED are the only panel technologies even remotely worth spending money on, dont let anyone tell you otherwise, they would be lying
Any comment on the QD OLED panel washing out in bright environments? I can (and do) keep my room fairly dark, but how dark is dark enough? I don't wanna spend 1300 to find out, and looking at the screen in a brightly lit showroom probably won't help much.
what screen exactly? look on rtings and see how much brighter it'll be and then you can turn your current screen to the max and see if you got "brightness issues". (can't get bright enough to fight glare, blacks get elevated without darkening the room) If yes I'd say that it might not be the right choice. if you don't get the issue it's worth the try imo, especially if you get them somewhere with a good return policy.
It's noticeable to me in office environments. Wait for a second gen version to get a filter/coating on it to reduce that issue or go with an LG panel. But not those $500 1440p 27in panels. Those aren't very good. Sharpness leaves a lot to be desired. I got one and returned it almost immediately. Too blurry. If you're not in a bright environment then you're fine.
use mine during the day, you will be fine as long as you are not having direct light on the front of it, i even have my blinds completely open, while there is indeed slight black raise that happens, its nowhere near as bad as people make out to be, it could also be how my room is setup as well tho
My room is pretty bright, but unless I play really dark games or watch such movies (like horrors or sth) it's not noticeable at all. And the "washing out" apply only to blacks, because they get slight purple tint - other colors are untouched.
Bought the LG 45 inch OLED monitor. It’s been amazing for ultra wide 1440p and got it open box from Best Buy for 950 bucks. Almost half off msrp. Replaced my LG C2. To me, I love the dark darks. Had the C2 for a few years and no burn after 1000s of hours.
i see all these oled fans justifying their purchase to themselves by hyping it up by calling it "worth it" ... tell me when it gets below 500 usd... it happened with 240hz ips monitors.
I bought the GLOSSY !!! 32" Dell AW3225QF. $899 on sale. Incredible. The best picture I have ever seen on my computer, and I have a 32" LG32GQ950 ATW Nano IPS too. Night and day. Love this Dell. The curve is SOOOO slight, you hardly notice it, but it also adds just a little something to games. Very happy. The M28105 Firmware fixes everything from Old reviews.
Personally the cost isn't my problem, my old monitor was $1500 on sale when I got it, it's the brightness. OLED looks great, but the brightness plummets with area of the screen used where over 20% is less than 500 nits and 30% goes into the 200s. My old monitor had FALD so it was already better than 99% of LCD displays so darks aren't that big a benefit. But my monitor was able to hit 1000 nits or 750 full screen. That's just so much more. For me the benefits of the OLED are more the motion clarity and the benefits of a glossy panel, which monitor makes seem allergic to for some reason.
I ended up getting this. - Awesome colors without tuning (in my opinion) - 240 hz. Latency and motion clarity feels just like the 27" AQDM, but in 4K! - Very, very decent HDR. Not MiniLED level, but generally adequate and feels much brighter than AQDM and Samsuing G8 OLED. All in all, if the AQDM is a 7/10, this is a 9/10. But too bad it doesn't have 480 hz. Text looks GOOD!
Every time I'm about to hit the purchase button on this monitor, I remember, "Oh yeah. My computer is 20 years old. I don't need to see my graphics card struggling in vivid clarity."
Jokes on you.... I like to have a crosshair from another game permanently burned in to my monitor so I don't have to worry about shitty crosshairs in other games /s
That side by side is huge. I’ve had an oled ultrawide but I’ve never done a side by side like that. Has made me wonder how much better it really is. Seeing it like this I feel validated. That’s side by side is a game changer.
I picked up the Alienware QD OLED ultrawide during Black Friday last year. Peior to BF, it was $1200. I got it for $800 and its been tbe biggest upgrade I've made to my setup in a long time. It's just completely better than even my high end mini-LED display or anything I've seen since plasma back in the day. It's truly a game changer for gaming on.
I would much rather have them hit 300~ nits in full sdr brightness. Personally, I wouldn't need an oled to get any brighter than that because I turn down the brightness already with 400 nit lcd monitors. Literally, I would never need to buy a new monitor again(at least in regard to brightness).
I went from a 4k 60fps TN panel to 1440p 165hz IPS, massive difference in quality, input lag, and overall smoothness, could be placebo but I swear I got slightly better at games. I now have a samsung G6 360hz 1440p OLED and it's crazy how smooth motion is, I noticed the IPS had slight trails and motion blur on fast moving objects. Color and contrast is also a massive improvement. Pretty similar upgrade path for me as well, so I thought that was cool.
I still have a Samsung FHD 240hz VA monitor and have often thought about whether I should make the jump to OLED. There are really very good IPS monitors, but depending on the feature you can also go straight back to OLED. I know Samsung panels because I own Samsung monitors and cell phones myself. How do you find the G6 in the OLED version when it comes to gaming, watching movies and generally reading text?
Got my 1440p ultra wide, 240hz, oled monitor for 600 off. I’ve always hated the monitors that I would get over the years because how the colors were just bad, especially if it didnt have a saturation setting. I’m hoping the OLED will solve all of this for me.
I bought the same screen. It’s one of the first screens that combines 4K + 240Hz + 1000 nits (peak) HDR. And is OLED for deep backs and per pixel HDR. Two years ago you had to pay 3000$ for a 1000 zone local dimming over 1000 nits 32” 144Hz 4K monitor. That monitor had a loud fan. And it had a wobbling halo around your mouse cursor due to too coarse local dimming. It also lacked HDMI 2.1 ports (for consoles). So I wouldn’t be complaining about the price. It’s half the price of a similar two years older monitor and has fixed the haloing issue, no loud fan and higher refresh rate and faster pixels too. Has HDMI 2.1 and has 95W charging over fast USB-C port capable of 4K 240Hz signal for laptop use. And KVM switch for laptop + desktop seamless use. This is the first no-compromise monitor for me. Two years ago I said that I buy a monitor like this if the price halves. And I did. And I got even better monitor too :)
I got the LG 1440p 240hz W-OLED, open box for 800 in 2023, back when it was 1k. I am so glad I did, it's easily the best thing I ever did. Say, if you have a 3080/3070, and you were looking to upgrade your monitor to a 4070ti/4080... don't. Just get the monitor instead. Such an amazing upgrade. Clarity and color is just so good.
@@ozgurkuzu2202 They speak english because it is the only language they know. We speak english because it is the only language they know. The difference.
I love my $580 dual 27" 1440p monitor setup compared to my prior $800 32" single 4k set up. I finally managed to catch the $280 AOC 180HZ Mini-Led instock last month and its absolutely the best price to performance monitor on the market.
I have to say, on my ultrawide OLED, it's not the blacks or the contrast that make the most difference but the screen width. Two full screens with no bezel between them is a real game changer. Dying Light 2 looks spectacular. Watching movies on an OLED is stunning though.
Great video...A friend once tried to convince me to buy one of these, saying that "Eventually you'll need a 240hz 4K monitor as the graphics card technology catches up with higher 4K resolution gaming" but, my main argument is "Why would I buy that 4K high refresh rate OLED monitor right now at over $1,000?...Instead, why not just wait until the price on 200+hz 4K OLED monitors starts to come down once we can actually push the higher resolution graphics up to those 200 plus FPS numbers without having to lower settings to sacrificing the image quality just to reach those higher FPS numbers" :)
I bought a LG 3440x1440 45" OLED monitor and I love it. Where you were showing 4 k with upscaling at 150ish max. I can get 220-240 in Horizon Forbidden West. Granted I am using a RX 7900 XTX card. Now part of why I wanted such a large monitor is that I keep my eyes over 5 feet away from the monitor.
You can also get a 4k 43" LG C4 for $900 (great option if you have the space to add a bit of distance between the screen and your seating position, i.e. wallmount and move the table off the wall) or a 34" 1440p 21:9 ultrawide OLED for $800 or less. If you can't really drive 4k at 100+ fps, you don't need to push to buy a 200hz+ monitor. OLED will still look great at lower refresh rates and the low response time will make the higher input lag from the low frame rate more bearable since the panel responds a little faster than IPS would. Single player titles don't need ultra fast refresh rates either, since due to consoles being kinda slow, gameplay is designed around 30fps framerate most of the time. Just avoid OLED alltogether if your room is super bright and you have a lot of light coming from behind you, get a mini-led screen in that case instead - they can get way brighter and have no risk of burn in. Same if you want to use the screen to show static images or some bright UI (i.e. Google Sheets) for hours at a time since that stuff will degrade the OLED much faster. Mini-led cost is also comparable to OLED.
I bought the exact same monitor, also open box from MC and I freaking love it! I went from dual AOC 1440P 27" curved monitors and there is no comparison.
11:15 It's not really that complicated. For instance, the monitor that you have: use its HDR 1000 mode, then set games to 1000 nits if they have the options for it. Boom, done. If they don't have the options for it, leave them at their default settings.
I bought a 34-inch ultrawide HDR-400 VA monitor over 3 years ago now. It's got very good colors for a VA, with a max refresh rate of 165Hz and minimal HDR capability. It does get pretty bright. I find it has VA glow in areas, but it's better than that grey instead of black issue of IPS monitors. At least, that was the situation when I got it. I don't know how much better monitors are now. I don't want to know. I'm afraid I'd want one. There's nothing wrong with my monitor. I need to learn to be happy with what I have. FOMO is a constant issue for the tech nerds among us. Just think how happy we'd have been with whatever we have now some 10 years ago. But we're spoiled and want more. OLED is beautiful, but the price and longevity issues still make me hesitant. I've had an OLED TV for a few years now. I'm surprised at how awful the colors are due to the weak red reproduction. If you don't compare it to something else, it looks fine, but next to my old VA TV it just doesn't hold up. Contrast is where it wins though. That's where OLED really excels. But would I get the TV again over a much large for the same price VA model from say Samsung? Probably not.
There really is no going back from OLED. After I got an OLED TV I knew that my next monitor would be OLED too. It just looks stunning compared to other panel types.
The TestUFO image duplication problem is because you're using a static camera position, but those parts of the test updated to a new monitor refresh mid-way through your capture. To avoid this you need to either carefully test using a persuit camera (moving on rails at the same speed as the UFO, so that both images stack on top of each other) or you need a shorter shutter speed.
I got the 240hz 2k monitor for like 700 when they where going for like 900 like 8 months ago. I love it. It feels amazing and looks amazing. No permanent burn in yet
I have a 271qrx and my partner has a pg32ucdm. They’re mind blowing. I agree, spend more on your monitor than a new gpu, or if you want to upgrade your pc, maybe consider a 1440p qd oled INSTEAD of the upgrade. The vibrance and saturation of color is truly mindblowing and the pixel response times make it feel like you are getting more fps than you really are. As stated on monitors unboxed, LCDs have worsening pixel response times with lessening refresh rate (will happen with Gsync/vrr), but it doesn’t change on oleds. So 60 fps in elden ring is smoother than I ever imagined 60fps could be. Yes, it’s not like it’s displaying different colors, but the dynamic range is a big difference. It’s surprising how bright small spots and little specks can be, so this can make colors pop out way more. Tl;dr it’s totally worth it for the 1440p qd oled models
You are right. Get the LG OLED 42" C3 for $800 on black friday at Micro Center and get an even bigger OLED HDR experience for a great price and keep your other monitor as a second work monitor and only use the OLED for the games/movies and you will never get burn in.
I actually bought an Oled TV,and not a PC screen! I saw it at a friend and was amazed,apperntly TV screens are equal these days to monitors in performance and are much more cheaper! I have a 55 inch Oled TV and I cant go back now,the size and quality of the image is unbeatable! About the size except thats its just a "regular" Oled TV,What prevented me in the past for going for big screen size was windows actually.people said your eyes cant enjoy at this size(false) and windows back then(win 10) didnt have a good support for 4k.. All icons were super small,couldnt read text so many issues.. but with Win 11 you have now native 4k resolution that adjusts everything,it feels flawless now even at 4k resolution. 🏆
The change from lcd to oled is the same as going from 60hz to 144hz because the moment you try it you don't want to ever go back (at least in my opinion)
That’s what I appreciate about you you’re pragmatic and you realize money doesn’t grow on trees. I am at the point where I have to make the decision on GPU and display. Everything else is in boxes screaming to be assembled. What GPU did you use for this testing? Very polished video thank you
I basically went down the exact same path as you. Got ny first 4k monitor and first OLED at the same time. Got the open box to shave off $200 and still felt sick because of how much I spent. But it literally made my jaw drop when I got home. Worth it.
Any modern VA or IPS monitor produces an impressively beautiful image. An OLED display with full-on HDR has a uniquely stark presentation, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. I'm sitting in front of a 60Hz 32" VA 4K panel made by LG, and I think I paid less than $300 US for it. Its specs aren't great, but for what I do -- for what almost every PC user does -- it's perfectly fine. And did I say it cost under $300? I can buy four of the ones I have for the price of this thing.
"I Bought a $1,300 Monitor to see if it's Even Worth It" ❌
"I Bought a $1.300 Monitor to see" ✅
to see what
Sorry but in US we only use . To separate dollars from cents, example $1,299.99
@@aaronpalmer7425 Bro missed the joke
@@alecsbizarrememes7862 Not necessarily. He's just correcting your incorrectly used period.
@@googlewolly I am using the period to indicate how most viewers watching are on a cheap monitor
I wish I was rich enough to buy things to see if it's a scam.
same homie..same
i doubt Vex is LinusTechTips level rich or GamersNexus lmao, and he probably planned this purchase for like a year
I’m not rich but got it in payments with Afterpay 😅 I’ll finish paying it off in November 💪
OLED isn't a scam, go to best buy and see them side by side
@@SimplCupwhy, he got content out of this monitor, he will make this money back with this video
I got an OLED monitor a few months ago, proper hdr really is amazing.
Yeah coming from a 1080 60. The 4k jump and higher framerate are neat but the real game changer is hdr. No doubt.
you should look into this github paage i found by a guy named dylan raga. called windows hdr srgb to gamma 2.2 or something. I don't hear windows terrible tone mapping being talked about enough, and this fixes that.
NO such think as "proper" hdr, there is no standard, and it's all software tech.
@@drunkhusband6257 the heck are you on about? Contrast and max brightness plays a roles. Theres also dimming zones, back light alg and additional input lag (if youre not using oled)
@@MobileEFoxxy You apparently, as most people seem confused by what HDR is...
MSI is going for 900-950
Alienware goes for 999(sometimes)
Msi also sells one for 4k165hz for 800 rn
(this is US pricing)
Same panel for all of these as the Asus, don't scam yourself
Also the MSI 27' 1440p360hz are 800 as well
Thanks for pointing out these other options :)
Asus is like 1600-1700$ here in Europe in my region,either Msi or gigabyte 1200-1300 $Alienware is 1000$ for the same panel😂
I picked Aw its really good.
@Whreck11 I also got the AW, really happy with this!
@@perezcristian13cp Yes I ended up buying the alienware [partly for the g-sync as well as the price] and it is great.
I wonder how many will burn after 8 years. Forget keeping them that long, disposable monitors I guess
130 bucks isn't worth open box, I think. Should be, at minimum, 350.
These are in high demand. The fact that he got the full warranty I'd say it's worth it. Although this doesn't change that I think this specific model is overpriced.
@@dotxyn Nah, not worth it for a discount of just 130. In that case, may as well go brand new.
@@googlewolly A month ago people were on waiting lists for 32" 4k OLEDs. He didn't mention if stock was why he got his open box, but no doubt that was going to get snatched up quick.
@@dotxyn I'm obviously referring to if a new one is possible. He implied that he did it to save money, so I'm saying that 130 isn't worth it for that.
130 bucks less, one of the best OLEDs, 3-year warranty still on it (let's assume Asus will honor it) and its only open box, meaning there's a high likelihood that the previous owner just opened it and return it for any reason besides the monitor itself? Yeah, 130 bucks is enough for the majority. I think that would only apply to LCDs since OLED monitors are in high demand.
Upgrading from ips to qd oled best decision i made,its visually stunning.
I'll stick with my 4k IPS monitor I have zero reasons to spend $1300 for a monitor lol
yes, especially nvidia has auto RTX HDR, so now you can play with HDR even in games that doesn't support HDR
@qwertyrewtywyterty it looks garbage on my ips display
@@zomberkay because it's IPS, duh
@@qwertyrewtywyterty you don't necessary need RTX HDR for that, you can enable HDR through Special K or Reshade with no performance hit.
I went from an ips to an oled, and i have to say. Seeing as ill have my OLED monitor for several years, it is so incredibly worth the price
Only until it burns in. 😂
@@metallboy25 that doesnt really happen though…
@@metallboy25 Any display can get burn in genius.
@@metallboy25 new oleds dont have that issue anymore
17:16 I am confused as to how it's upscaling to 4k all he did was change resolution to 2k, don't you have to change settings or something?
One thing with the image that people dont seem to notice is the absolute uniforminity of the image, every single edge of the screen just displays content without any bleeding backlights, no contrast shifts.
It's not really something you think much about until you see it live.
I personally am spoiled by just how great the 100% screen image quality is.
As for HDR, due to the contrast i think it looks significantly better than mini led. The only thing i liked about mini led was its peak sdr brightness, but bleeding that brightness into HDR(RTX and auto) kind of ruins the effect. ABL on the other hand can be a bother in some instances, but those were rare for me. Shit just blows me away, when the HDR really kicks in. Sime scenes in elden ring, the scenes with proper black levels, or the intro stage in gears 5 when your wakking through a pitch black cave and the brightness of your armors "hey im a friendly" just pop in ways they just cant in sdr.
got my 1440p 240hz IPS for 280$ a couple months ago, i aint complaining, cant go wrong with IPS at that price, OLED is such a big price jump, LCD is still best value by far.
Where did you find that?
@@DaBrown101 its the koorui 27e3qk, got it from amazon, price is probably even lower by now.
@@DaBrown101 koorui 27e3qk from amzon.
koorui 27e3qk from amazon.
koorui 27e3qk from amzon.
Your ips monitor, old one, has absolutely zero ips bleed/glow. It is insane. Mine lg 27gl850 is full on the edges.
Mine with almost 1300 hours and that I bought used at 11225 has very few to none bleed or glow. It got kinda blurry recently though.
Any IPS has IPS glow, it's just a function of view point. Move yourself further or use longer focal length camera and it disappears.
While bleed is manufacturing problem that doesn't change with viewing position.
That's very rare and expensive OR just recorded right.
Mine2, same model as yours except the 32 inch version.
Yeah, I would never go IPS again because of the glow. My current monitor is absolutely unusable without the lights and a lamp on or all i can see is the glow at the bottom left lol.
One aspect often overlooked in the LCD vs. OLED debate is the parallax effect that occurs near the edges of an LCD panel due to its polarization layer. While this issue is mainly noticeable on larger (32"+) flat panels, it can become quite irritating, especially if you use software with very thin or narrow scroll bars. OLEDs don't have this issue at all, next to the pure blacks and insane pixel response times, it's something that instantly stood out to me.
Screen burn is the elephant in the room, manufacturers want you to ignore it, but it WILL destroy your image and it doesnt take long either.
@@engjdsIn that case if it's burnt in after 3 years you can file a warranty claim.
Neither does my 10 year old 47" LED TV, or my 32" LCD, or my 60" LED. Some people are so gullible.
@@Alex-tu5vu Good luck with proving you didnt mistreat it, as long as you buy with expectations that it will happen.
@engjds Bro just stop with nonsense, I've had an oled tv for 6 years no burn in. And a oled monitor for 2 years no burn in. Yes both will eventually go out like any electronic. Guess if your poor it's an issue , if you want the best a 6 or 7 years oled is perfect.
The 3 big cons of OLED:
1. Expensive.
2. Burn-in risk.
3. Dimmer full screen brightness, might not look as nice as LCD in day time scenes depending on preference.
Outside of the above, OLED is literally better in everything else.
I get the best of both worlds by having a decent 4k 32" monitor for productivity, and a 65" LG C4 as a secondary monitor. Works perfectly for the games I enjoy since I'm no longer super interested in competitive shooters and such. Helldivers 2, Alan Wake, Dead Space have all been a blast and looked amazing on the big screen. All the caveats are kind of expected when you're at the bleeding edge of tech. That being said I fully expect to get at least 5 years of life out of the C4 since my old 55" C7 lasted the same amount of time before it started to show burn in - and today's panels are much more resilient than before.
Burn-in is vastly over estimated, it's basically not an issue anymore.
@@ThisisCitrus Nope. Rting and Hardware Unboxed are both conducting accelerated burn-in tests. They are still present. While Rtings focuses on TVs and often older models, Hardware Unboxed sees burn-in as quickly as 3 months of worse case scenario type stress test on more modern OLED monitors. It is still a risk and care still need to be taken if you want your OLED to last.
@@SashimiSteak Their tests prove its not an issue. They are running the display 24/7 on a static screen without using pixel cleaning and it took years of watch time for burn in to show. Its a non issue.
@@ThisisCitrusThe way I interpret it is if it happens at all, it is a risk. To have to adjust the way you use the screen to minimise that risk, it is still a con.
The biggest thing when looking for oled monitors is sales. All these monitors that are well over a $1000 are constantly on sale. The one I got which is a $1500 one I got on sale for $800 and at that price I think it's absolutely worth getting an OLED and I've even seen some OLEDs as low as just under $600
Mate, my LG C1 4K 120 has been a bloody game-changer! I got it for £700 on Black Friday a couple of years back, and it's been an absolute steal.
$700 and you call that a steal? I can get a 60" LED TV for under $400 at Walmart. Insane, absolutely insane. So many consoomers here...
@@robotron1236 You've clearly never had a nice TV if you think that is even comparable. And yes £700, not dollars, is an absolute bargain.
@@Gr00t the euro and the dollar are fairly close in exchange rates.
@@Gr00t my 60” TV also does 4k.
@robotron1236 You're kidding right? Satire?
I would love to switch to OLED but I'm on my computer 8-10 hours a day for work and I fear it'll burn in.
Yeah fuck that a good monitor with ups panel is good anyway
Il say it straight if you work that much on your PC don't get oled that simple oled r made for mainly entertainment so gaming etc and casual browsing soif you mainly work on it for 8 hrs you will get get burn in with in a year because on the channel monitor unboxed he tried to use a oled monitor for work only so 8 hrs a day so after 3 months or so he all ready got signs of burn in so my guess before he hits 1 year he will get burn in since he uses the monitor for only work so in your case 8 to 10 hrs work is a no go so get a mini LED instead better for what you do until micro OLED comes but that's far away than it's no burn in risk
Been working on an OLED for months now, no issue. Also, according to RTINGS latest tests, LCDs actually have more burn in issues than OLEDs.
@@3borsresistance551image retention is not the same as burn in, image retention is temporary, burn in is permanent 🤷♂️
@@3borsresistance551 yes but it depends how much you work because Tim from monitor unboxed worked on his pc 8 hrs a day for 3 months and he got sign of burn in so you need to be specific because if you don't than your comment has 0 value because some work 3 some less some alot more so you need to be specific but my guess you don't work 8 hrs a day on your OLED if you did you would have signs of burn in all ready that simple since Tim all ready did a 3 months testing
The problem with HDR is that the _games_ often don't implement it well - in fact sometimes games implement it really poorly. RUclips channels like GamingTech do a lot of game testing and can tell you which games are worth playing in HDR and which can be skipped - and which will look good if you use the settings they found.
Windows also freaks out if you have more than one display in HDR mode. Moving windows to ither virtual desktop workspaces is just flat out broken on all but the main display. It’s such a headache I have decided it’s not worth turning on at all.
There is a significant difference between OLED monitors and TVs. Usually TVs are brighter and larger which again makes it seem even brighter. To me HDR is a HUGE selling point, and really does make a massive difference in movies and games. The colors, shadows and highlights just stand out so much.
That's why I went with a VA panel. Really high contrast, almost pitch black. No ghosting on my particular model at 240hz. It is 1080p but it was 1/10th of the price of this oled monitor. It's also more vibrant than the ips monitors I've used.
my question is what website did you find those used cars on? 👀
Asking the right question.
must have been at Wayback
There's nothing like showing both monitors together to really see the difference. Good video my man. I'm actually about to purchase an OLED 4K.
Except he didn't use the most colour accurate settings,
@@MaZEEZaM Also the strong light glare the whole time on the IPS.
i did the switch and it is genuinly an experience
One thing to note that a lot of people miss is that low fps content looks worse on OLED. If you’re in the 30fps range it almost looks like a shutter door since the frames are displayed so quickly, you lose that blur between frames that traditional led monitors produce. I have a hard time playing console titles or on switch in 30fps on my OLED’s even when using motion smoothing features. Just some food for thought.
If you're playing ANYTHING in the 30 fps range when you can afford an OLED monitor, your priorities are messed up and should probably have bought a better graphics card
@@mr.waffles2555 or just stay away from shity unoptimised games.
Well yeah no crap lol
@mikaeo23 u missed the word switch i guess
@@mikaeo23 Yeah I’ll be sure to get a better graphics card for my Switch and PS5 exclusives 🤣 I play on all platforms and don’t limit myself to PC only. My comment is there to educate those who aren’t aware of those cons. I’d be willing to bet I have more experience with OLED and better hardware in my PC than you do.
i just went all in a while back and bought a 65-inch LG G2 oled. and wall mounted it. main screen for my pc/ps5.
Same got the c3 65
yup, tv not monitor is the better choice right now
love the trend that people move to TVs as monitors! (why place 25" monitors side by side when you can just place a 50" TV on the table, haha)
There are little to no drawbacks imo since multiple screens and wider screens became the norm for gaming focused setups.
I use my 50" TV often in 21:9 for games like Cyberpunk and it's just plain awesome^^
I've been on a 4k 40inch samsung curve since like 2018 and have zero regrets. Monitors are just too small for me
That's what the goats do. I say that cause I use a 55C1 as a monitor 😂
i play on a 65" Samsung QN90A QLED......looks very close to OLED, brighter, and peace of mind that ten years from now there will still be no burn in on my expensive display. I can live with the little blooming I get from time to time.
Yeah 43 inch QN90B is working great. It's around 100ppi so text is nice and sharp sitting at the desk and I have a sofa close to it for use as a tv/gamepad games
18:12 4k DLSS Ultra performance is 720p
Q=67% of native
B=59% of native
P=50% of native
UP=33% of native
I once paid $1700 for a 19" NEC CRT monitor, and you know what, it was worth it, lasted for a decade+ finally got donated when I Switch to LCD
I'd you were willing to give up 4K you could have gotten 360Hz QD-OLED for $750.
Which one in particular are you talking about?
@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these:
Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3
MSI MPG 271QRX
Alienware AW2725DF
You can probably find one of them on sale, and all come well-reviewed by "Monitors Unboxed".
*Warning*: when you see how good these look you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555 Check out these:
Gigabyte Aurus FO27Q3
MSI MPG 271QRX
Alienware AW2725DF
You will probably find at least one of these on sale, and all are reviewed and recommended by "Monitors Unboxed".
*WARNING*: After seeing how good these look, you might decide to buy a new graphics card (I did.)
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555 I tried to reply but my reply is just getting auto-deleted.
@@eduardomartindelcampo4555AW2523DF
I think you should buy tv like 42"-48" LG c4. They are cheaper and 42"-48" is better suited for 4k resolution. 32" is super small for 4k. I have 48" LG c1 and it was best thing i have done.
I like your comment....x I was thinking 42.5 " and it seems good at that size... Brill
The point of 4K displays is the best pixel density possible, and you just nullify that by having a huge panel?
@@シミズルリ but a huge panel at 1080
Depending on viewing distance. @@シミズルリ
@@S-Fish-yt3ib buy 42 inch LG oled C4. i bought 48 inch same model and it's quiet big for me. Coming from 32 inch gaming monitor.
Truly the year of the OLED
@@phm04 the year of consoomers and mouth breathers…
Going from a 1080p IPS panel to a 4K OLED was one of the most mind-blowing things ever.
I'm going from IPS to TN 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could turn on DLDSR or VSR.
I've gone from 1440p tn to 1440p OLED and it is amazing. I've used HDR twice in almost a year though. HDR... is impressive gimmick for now. There is no better SDR monitor than OLED.
I think i need to have my eyes checked. Or i just landed in some kind of cult 😂
Enjoy it until screen burn destroys that image.
After using First Gen qd oled, in terms of HDR, the problem is that 1000 nits mode, decreases average picture brightness by half when u reach specific scene brightness (it does it to keep that nit difference), making HDR 450 true black overall brighter minus highlights (as it doesn't dim nearly as much). Still if overall picture is super bright youre so close to it's 250 nits limit, that even SDR at around 100% will look the same. Monitor is just unable to make anything pop when overall scene is too bright. MLA WOLED is better for HDR now for like 1-15% highlights, but... there is no glossy finish which I grew to like. Keep that in mind folks. Can't wait for next gen WOLED but without matte finish, possibly 300 nits at fullscreen white.
I bought the first round of 1440p 240hz OLEDs.
They are overrated. Is it nice? Yes, but these RUclips channels sold them like the second coming of christ and it is disingenuous. Hell, most game's implementation of HDR is ASS.
Get a quality IPS for half the price.
Bro is cooming for 24 minutes and 55 seconds straight
Genuinely considering selling my OLED, starts to get old when you realise how often you have to clean the darn thing
@@trinityforce9138 clean OLED? Lmao I only dust it off once a month when I clean everything. Idk what type of cleaning you be doing
@@trinityforce9138 ive genuinely considered selling crack
@@trinityforce9138 Lol why would you need to clean it more than lcd?
@@ilaripori6148 Talking about cooming on the display.
For the longest time of my life I used PCs I somehow managed to scrap together that where barely running. But I had a great time with friends gaming hours on end. Now I have a 4000€ PC, that ASUS Monitor, VR Headset and so on but only like 5 hours per week to play … adulthood sucks sometimes lol. But when I’m using it I’m always blown away how far gaming tech has come.
Oled 100% worth it , i can’t play on lcd after oled , and i will buy another oled fpr 1.500 if my brakes
I only care about input lag,
Response time, and FPS for Rocket League.
I currently have a 280hz IPS LCD from asus abojt 3 years old.
How drastic will it be to move to a 360hz 1440p OLED on rocket league?
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I have the 360hz oled, and I would say it's not much of a difference in RL (I play a ton of RL), but in other games like Overwatch, or Valorant, etc where you are whipping your mouse around and snapping on people you can definitely tell a difference.
@@signedupfordoconly4275 Well, pixel response times are lowest there can be.
@@signedupfordoconly4275 I switched from 144hz IPS to 240hz OLED and the difference is amazing. I've heard that the jump from 240hz to 360hz is small but definitely noticeable, but I think in your case the biggest improvement would be the switch to OLED.
The quick response times of OLEDs have very little to do with input lag, its just how quickly a pixel can switch from one color to another. Faster response times result in better motion clarity, with less ghosting and motion blur. High refresh rate OLEDs feel so nice to game on because you can see everything clearly, even in fast motion.
I will say the longer you can wait, the cheaper and better OLEDs will become. 280hz IPS is still a great monitor and I wouldn't really feel the need to upgrade to a $1000+ monitor right now unless you have the money to spend, and really care about the better motion clarity and contrast ratios.
@signedupfordoconly4275 noticeable difference but not night and day. The jump in image quality though is day and night.
0:45 i know i have it but its still awesome , its 2 1440p oleds mashed together so you can game while having youtube or a guide on the side , but ive never used it this way cause i baby it scared of burn in but yet i know play one game so im making it vulnerable to burn in
I heard once you go OLED, you can't go back. Since the price is too high, I'll stick with my crappy 1440p monitor 😅
Well yeah once you experience something better that what you're used to you will not want to go back.
It's like switching from 720p square screen from 15 years ago to 4K UW this year, ain't no way someone's going back with that.
I can confirm this. Now that I have one all other screens in my house look like crap to me hahahahaha
Depends on how much you value the image quality. I have an LG OLED and IPS panels side-by-side by I mainly use the IPS. I leave the OLED for movies and such. Doesn't really matter in most games, I don't play them for visuals anyways.
And text looks sharper on 1440p ips compared to 4k OLED thanks to Microsoft not implementing cleartype for WRGB subpixel layout.
I too have a 1440p 240 hz monitor and I'm happy with the purchase
As an OLED enjoyer, you're 100% right
Hey. I have that exact LG model too. I am also extremely pleased with the purchase. One problem I have with it is that sometimes, the USB hub just DOESN'T WANT TO F***ING WORK!!! Biggest improvement to it was peeling off the obnoxiously well glued on g-sync sticker.
1440p looks sharp on a 27" monitor, if 32" go for 4k would be better.
Plus, it also depends on the quality of your 1440p monitor display like panel, color gamut, contrast, etc...
Some 1440p IPS panel does comes with low contrast but some looks fine. Of course, it also depends on the "budget"...
For me 32 inches is too big for gaming…27 is perfect.
32" with sharpness slightly raised still works tho
@@Mike-jm4gg Yeah, I am having the same thought. But I haven't try on 27" monitor, will try later😄
@@strider029 👍 I found that those I mentioned above is ideal inches for different resolution, but not super bad.
It is because I found that a lot of users said that 1080p is lousy, pixelated, blur, etc. End up they were talking about 27" 1080p😅😅
For 1080p, it looks sharp if go for 23.8" / 24".
Same scenario for 27" 1440p and 32" 4k, ideal perception.
Contrast is normally factory set at a default value and does not require an adjustment on modern monitors. If you adjust it in any direction, clipping happens and you get blown out whites and crushed blacks. If you don't know the default position, reset the monitor to factory settings. If you need better contrast, calibrate your monitor with a good colorimeter to BT.2020.
I’m coming from a 1080p 144hrtz monitor to a 32in 4k OLED 240hrtz this next week. Got a rtx 4090 and 7800x3d PC coming from a 2070 super. can’t wait :)
Did you win the lottery or stumble upon a briefcase full of cash or something?
@@DerekMoore82 i did it i mean something similar went from 1650 super to 4080 super just work hard and i saved up for years and finally got the setup i wanted
@@DerekMoore82work for your self and u Will buy this easy
@Paule9511 Why didn't I think of that? I'll just go out and start working for myself tomorrow and be rich, thanks for the advice! You should really tell more people, if everyone knew about this totally doable advice of yours, there would be no poor people, and we'd all work for ourselves! Of course... then we wouldn't have any employees... I guess we'll just have to keep this super convenient advice of yours a secret so we'll have some people left to work for us!
@@DerekMoore82 stay poor so
I've had the Alienware AW3423DW since 2022, paid approximately $1300 for it, and I can say with absolute certainty that it is definitely one of the most significant upgrades I've made, and HDR is no joke.
the msi 1440p, 240hz, 27inch IPS is PLENTY for me
you say this untill you experience oled in person
I have the same one gang 🙌
I appreciate that you're directly comparing the monitor I currently have, to the monitor I want.
OLEDS for PC are great for people with a lot of money. Not because they are expesive but because you'll have to replace them after 2-4 years.
I recently replaced my old dual monitor setup with basically the same thing, except for better specs (higher res and Hz) but I stayed on IPS - the last setup lasted me almost 10 years - I got my money's worth threefold and I sold it for 1/4 of the buying price.
I'm not hating on OLED but most people just don't have the infinite sack of coins to replace stuff so often. My father-in-law has an OLED TV and he watches a single info channes with yellow info bar constantly. The pixels in that area resebme ash. The TV is 3 years old.
And don't get me wrong, IPS has it's own problems like backlight bleed and washed out blacks compared to OLED. I just think they are less of a problem in the long term.
Cheers
While I do agree 100% with you, I also hope OLED's burn issue will be fixed or at least improved 4 to 5 years from now, and I hope that prices will go down too.
Yeah, I only got one because I saw how well burn in tests running worst case scenarios are doing in recent years. I hope mine will last me more than 5 years, but if not, it was a cool experience and I will probably switch to microLED when they are hopefully more common.
Just whatever you do, absolutely dont buy a monitor with a VA panel,IPS or OLED are the only panel technologies even remotely worth spending money on, dont let anyone tell you otherwise, they would be lying
Any comment on the QD OLED panel washing out in bright environments? I can (and do) keep my room fairly dark, but how dark is dark enough? I don't wanna spend 1300 to find out, and looking at the screen in a brightly lit showroom probably won't help much.
Have the same question
what screen exactly? look on rtings and see how much brighter it'll be and then you can turn your current screen to the max and see if you got "brightness issues". (can't get bright enough to fight glare, blacks get elevated without darkening the room)
If yes I'd say that it might not be the right choice. if you don't get the issue it's worth the try imo, especially if you get them somewhere with a good return policy.
It's noticeable to me in office environments. Wait for a second gen version to get a filter/coating on it to reduce that issue or go with an LG panel. But not those $500 1440p 27in panels. Those aren't very good. Sharpness leaves a lot to be desired. I got one and returned it almost immediately. Too blurry.
If you're not in a bright environment then you're fine.
use mine during the day, you will be fine as long as you are not having direct light on the front of it, i even have my blinds completely open, while there is indeed slight black raise that happens, its nowhere near as bad as people make out to be, it could also be how my room is setup as well tho
My room is pretty bright, but unless I play really dark games or watch such movies (like horrors or sth) it's not noticeable at all. And the "washing out" apply only to blacks, because they get slight purple tint - other colors are untouched.
Bought the LG 45 inch OLED monitor. It’s been amazing for ultra wide 1440p and got it open box from Best Buy for 950 bucks. Almost half off msrp. Replaced my LG C2. To me, I love the dark darks. Had the C2 for a few years and no burn after 1000s of hours.
i see all these oled fans justifying their purchase to themselves by hyping it up by calling it "worth it" ... tell me when it gets below 500 usd... it happened with 240hz ips monitors.
I bought the GLOSSY !!! 32" Dell AW3225QF. $899 on sale. Incredible. The best picture I have ever seen on my computer, and I have a 32" LG32GQ950 ATW Nano IPS too. Night and day. Love this Dell. The curve is SOOOO slight, you hardly notice it, but it also adds just a little something to games. Very happy. The M28105 Firmware fixes everything from Old reviews.
I was waiting for you to pull out lossless scalings new 4x mode to try hit that 240fps mark, wondering if you've tried it?
Lossless scaling frame generation produces a smoother motion but introduces a lot of artifacts and the game feels less responsive than native
@@Goejiiexactly and if you compare it with the real frame gen from nvidia lossless scaling is a gimmick
Personally the cost isn't my problem, my old monitor was $1500 on sale when I got it, it's the brightness. OLED looks great, but the brightness plummets with area of the screen used where over 20% is less than 500 nits and 30% goes into the 200s. My old monitor had FALD so it was already better than 99% of LCD displays so darks aren't that big a benefit. But my monitor was able to hit 1000 nits or 750 full screen. That's just so much more.
For me the benefits of the OLED are more the motion clarity and the benefits of a glossy panel, which monitor makes seem allergic to for some reason.
I want more mini-led monitors on the market
Led is ded, piss of kid
I ended up getting this.
- Awesome colors without tuning (in my opinion)
- 240 hz. Latency and motion clarity feels just like the 27" AQDM, but in 4K!
- Very, very decent HDR. Not MiniLED level, but generally adequate and feels much brighter than AQDM and Samsuing G8 OLED.
All in all, if the AQDM is a 7/10, this is a 9/10. But too bad it doesn't have 480 hz.
Text looks GOOD!
my best pg322ucdm, best monitor in the world, 4k QD-OLED IMPRESSIVE
Yeah agree i have both asus and aorus but aorus more brighter.(ps5)But no complaints qd oleds are visually stunning.
Every time I'm about to hit the purchase button on this monitor, I remember, "Oh yeah. My computer is 20 years old. I don't need to see my graphics card struggling in vivid clarity."
LG 42” C4 OLED = $1289AUD, 32” OLED = $2200, scratching head…oh it says gaming. Gaming tax = $1000
240Hz?
Yeah that 240hz vs what maybe 120 on the TV?
Even by watching this video through RUclips on a phone, I can see a huge visual quality difference between those 2 monitors!
I'm guessing your phone have OLED screen?
@@KingKogarasumaru
Yes, it does. And 1440p resolution too.
Burn in on a TV is extremely manageable. Burn in on a PC however, no thank you. I’m convinced that mini-led is the sweet spot for PC monitors.
Jokes on you.... I like to have a crosshair from another game permanently burned in to my monitor so I don't have to worry about shitty crosshairs in other games /s
Each to their own, but if purely gaming, the risk is greatly reduced and MSI and Alienware both cover burn-in in their 3 year warranties.
That side by side is huge.
I’ve had an oled ultrawide but I’ve never done a side by side like that. Has made me wonder how much better it really is.
Seeing it like this I feel validated.
That’s side by side is a game changer.
I'll wait for mini LED to get good, can't deal with the fear of burn in on OLED
You needn't. I've had a c1 for years and there is no burn in.
What's your usage "style" ? @@braisedtoast9002
I picked up the Alienware QD OLED ultrawide during Black Friday last year. Peior to BF, it was $1200. I got it for $800 and its been tbe biggest upgrade I've made to my setup in a long time. It's just completely better than even my high end mini-LED display or anything I've seen since plasma back in the day. It's truly a game changer for gaming on.
Man it'll be perfect if these new oled monitor could hit 1000 nit peak brightness at, at least 30-35 percent window.
I would much rather have them hit 300~ nits in full sdr brightness. Personally, I wouldn't need an oled to get any brighter than that because I turn down the brightness already with 400 nit lcd monitors. Literally, I would never need to buy a new monitor again(at least in regard to brightness).
I went from a 4k 60fps TN panel to 1440p 165hz IPS, massive difference in quality, input lag, and overall smoothness, could be placebo but I swear I got slightly better at games. I now have a samsung G6 360hz 1440p OLED and it's crazy how smooth motion is, I noticed the IPS had slight trails and motion blur on fast moving objects. Color and contrast is also a massive improvement. Pretty similar upgrade path for me as well, so I thought that was cool.
I still have a Samsung FHD 240hz VA monitor and have often thought about whether I should make the jump to OLED. There are really very good IPS monitors, but depending on the feature you can also go straight back to OLED. I know Samsung panels because I own Samsung monitors and cell phones myself.
How do you find the G6 in the OLED version when it comes to gaming, watching movies and generally reading text?
😂😂 zero warranty...
Got my 1440p ultra wide, 240hz, oled monitor for 600 off. I’ve always hated the monitors that I would get over the years because how the colors were just bad, especially if it didnt have a saturation setting. I’m hoping the OLED will solve all of this for me.
I have a with a .
bros wallet is the bottleneck, just like the rest of us
@@00Cubic so true xd
I bought the same screen. It’s one of the first screens that combines 4K + 240Hz + 1000 nits (peak) HDR. And is OLED for deep backs and per pixel HDR.
Two years ago you had to pay 3000$ for a 1000 zone local dimming over 1000 nits 32” 144Hz 4K monitor. That monitor had a loud fan. And it had a wobbling halo around your mouse cursor due to too coarse local dimming. It also lacked HDMI 2.1 ports (for consoles).
So I wouldn’t be complaining about the price. It’s half the price of a similar two years older monitor and has fixed the haloing issue, no loud fan and higher refresh rate and faster pixels too. Has HDMI 2.1 and has 95W charging over fast USB-C port capable of 4K 240Hz signal for laptop use. And KVM switch for laptop + desktop seamless use.
This is the first no-compromise monitor for me. Two years ago I said that I buy a monitor like this if the price halves. And I did. And I got even better monitor too :)
I expect us to get even better monitor two years later at half the price. But this is the cheapest monitor with these specs today.
i mean who pays 1300$ for a monitor without having 4090 gpu, you should have tested it with 4090
OLED + 4070 > 4090 + IPS. The visual quality is better than any graphics settings. Just add DLSS or lower settings. It will still look way better.
@@Rspsand07for the current prices of Oled, I'd rather get a high end VA like the samsung neo g7 and spend the rest on a better gpu
@@Rspsand07I have a 4k 144hz ips monitor right now with a 4090. Would 1440p oled look blurry to me or not? I'm thinking of getting one.
I got the LG 1440p 240hz W-OLED, open box for 800 in 2023, back when it was 1k. I am so glad I did, it's easily the best thing I ever did. Say, if you have a 3080/3070, and you were looking to upgrade your monitor to a 4070ti/4080... don't. Just get the monitor instead. Such an amazing upgrade. Clarity and color is just so good.
There is a reason why Sony dumped QD-OLED/OLED over Mini-LED.
Qd oled better visually than mini led my friend but i agree its risky for its price,sorry for my poor english.
@@ozgurkuzu2202 my england are very bad too.... its ok brothar
So what's the reason Samsung and LG stopped producing lcd displays completely?
Mini Led doesn't suffer burn in and looks almost as good as OLED, much better for a PC monitor for longevity
@@ozgurkuzu2202 They speak english because it is the only language they know.
We speak english because it is the only language they know.
The difference.
I guess, right now your best bet for a money is Direct LED, Mini-LED IPS with local dimming and HDR.
And still doesn't use dp 2.1 lmao
These people are consoomer NPCs, that do the latest thing the influencer on the screen tells them to. Absolutely wild...
I love my $580 dual 27" 1440p monitor setup compared to my prior $800 32" single 4k set up. I finally managed to catch the $280 AOC 180HZ Mini-Led instock last month and its absolutely the best price to performance monitor on the market.
Oled is the best forget everything else.
I have to say, on my ultrawide OLED, it's not the blacks or the contrast that make the most difference but the screen width. Two full screens with no bezel between them is a real game changer. Dying Light 2 looks spectacular.
Watching movies on an OLED is stunning though.
Great video...A friend once tried to convince me to buy one of these, saying that "Eventually you'll need a 240hz 4K monitor as the graphics card technology catches up with higher 4K resolution gaming" but, my main argument is "Why would I buy that 4K high refresh rate OLED monitor right now at over $1,000?...Instead, why not just wait until the price on 200+hz 4K OLED monitors starts to come down once we can actually push the higher resolution graphics up to those 200 plus FPS numbers without having to lower settings to sacrificing the image quality just to reach those higher FPS numbers" :)
I bought a LG 3440x1440 45" OLED monitor and I love it. Where you were showing 4 k with upscaling at 150ish max. I can get 220-240 in Horizon Forbidden West. Granted I am using a RX 7900 XTX card. Now part of why I wanted such a large monitor is that I keep my eyes over 5 feet away from the monitor.
You can also get a 4k 43" LG C4 for $900 (great option if you have the space to add a bit of distance between the screen and your seating position, i.e. wallmount and move the table off the wall) or a 34" 1440p 21:9 ultrawide OLED for $800 or less. If you can't really drive 4k at 100+ fps, you don't need to push to buy a 200hz+ monitor. OLED will still look great at lower refresh rates and the low response time will make the higher input lag from the low frame rate more bearable since the panel responds a little faster than IPS would. Single player titles don't need ultra fast refresh rates either, since due to consoles being kinda slow, gameplay is designed around 30fps framerate most of the time.
Just avoid OLED alltogether if your room is super bright and you have a lot of light coming from behind you, get a mini-led screen in that case instead - they can get way brighter and have no risk of burn in. Same if you want to use the screen to show static images or some bright UI (i.e. Google Sheets) for hours at a time since that stuff will degrade the OLED much faster. Mini-led cost is also comparable to OLED.
I bought the exact same monitor, also open box from MC and I freaking love it! I went from dual AOC 1440P 27" curved monitors and there is no comparison.
11:15 It's not really that complicated. For instance, the monitor that you have: use its HDR 1000 mode, then set games to 1000 nits if they have the options for it. Boom, done. If they don't have the options for it, leave them at their default settings.
iirc windows has hdr setting on display settings, maybe itll set things automatically
I bought a 34-inch ultrawide HDR-400 VA monitor over 3 years ago now. It's got very good colors for a VA, with a max refresh rate of 165Hz and minimal HDR capability. It does get pretty bright. I find it has VA glow in areas, but it's better than that grey instead of black issue of IPS monitors. At least, that was the situation when I got it. I don't know how much better monitors are now. I don't want to know. I'm afraid I'd want one. There's nothing wrong with my monitor. I need to learn to be happy with what I have. FOMO is a constant issue for the tech nerds among us. Just think how happy we'd have been with whatever we have now some 10 years ago. But we're spoiled and want more. OLED is beautiful, but the price and longevity issues still make me hesitant. I've had an OLED TV for a few years now. I'm surprised at how awful the colors are due to the weak red reproduction. If you don't compare it to something else, it looks fine, but next to my old VA TV it just doesn't hold up. Contrast is where it wins though. That's where OLED really excels. But would I get the TV again over a much large for the same price VA model from say Samsung? Probably not.
I bought this same PG32UCDM, absolute game changer, never going anything lower than 4k.
There really is no going back from OLED. After I got an OLED TV I knew that my next monitor would be OLED too. It just looks stunning compared to other panel types.
The TestUFO image duplication problem is because you're using a static camera position, but those parts of the test updated to a new monitor refresh mid-way through your capture. To avoid this you need to either carefully test using a persuit camera (moving on rails at the same speed as the UFO, so that both images stack on top of each other) or you need a shorter shutter speed.
I got the 240hz 2k monitor for like 700 when they where going for like 900 like 8 months ago. I love it. It feels amazing and looks amazing. No permanent burn in yet
Watched the video for a unique take on the ASUS 4K OLED monitor. Stayed for the cat at the end. Well done!
your a bad ass reviewer....honesty is a hell a virtue...keep it up man
I have a 271qrx and my partner has a pg32ucdm. They’re mind blowing. I agree, spend more on your monitor than a new gpu, or if you want to upgrade your pc, maybe consider a 1440p qd oled INSTEAD of the upgrade.
The vibrance and saturation of color is truly mindblowing and the pixel response times make it feel like you are getting more fps than you really are. As stated on monitors unboxed, LCDs have worsening pixel response times with lessening refresh rate (will happen with Gsync/vrr), but it doesn’t change on oleds. So 60 fps in elden ring is smoother than I ever imagined 60fps could be.
Yes, it’s not like it’s displaying different colors, but the dynamic range is a big difference. It’s surprising how bright small spots and little specks can be, so this can make colors pop out way more.
Tl;dr it’s totally worth it for the 1440p qd oled models
You are right. Get the LG OLED 42" C3 for $800 on black friday at Micro Center and get an even bigger OLED HDR experience for a great price and keep your other monitor as a second work monitor and only use the OLED for the games/movies and you will never get burn in.
I actually bought an Oled TV,and not a PC screen! I saw it at a friend and was amazed,apperntly TV screens are equal these days to monitors in performance and are much more cheaper!
I have a 55 inch Oled TV and I cant go back now,the size and quality of the image is unbeatable!
About the size except thats its just a "regular" Oled TV,What prevented me in the past for going for big screen size was windows actually.people said your eyes cant enjoy at this size(false) and windows back then(win 10) didnt have a good support for 4k.. All icons were super small,couldnt read text so many issues.. but with Win 11 you have now native 4k resolution that adjusts everything,it feels flawless now even at 4k resolution. 🏆
The change from lcd to oled is the same as going from 60hz to 144hz because the moment you try it you don't want to ever go back (at least in my opinion)
Went from a 34" VA 100hz to a 45" 240hz OLED. The hype is real.
I can't go back now. I use an LG C1 as a monitor and its just miles ahead of anything else other than WLED.
I got me the Alienware version for $899 plus rakuten cash back, it slaps
Should I be afraid of burn in using this for productivity ?
Very few ppl speak with sanity like u 😊
That’s what I appreciate about you you’re pragmatic and you realize money doesn’t grow on trees. I am at the point where I have to make the decision on GPU and display. Everything else is in boxes screaming to be assembled. What GPU did you use for this testing?
Very polished video thank you
I basically went down the exact same path as you. Got ny first 4k monitor and first OLED at the same time. Got the open box to shave off $200 and still felt sick because of how much I spent. But it literally made my jaw drop when I got home. Worth it.
how do you like the nauseating OLED VVR flicker? I took my OLED back after a few days and only use LCD until QDEL display technology comes out.
@@ImakeTanks I've never noticed it.
@@ImakeTanks If your getting stable frame rates it won't flucker. Also my monitor has a feature to reduce flicker.
Any modern VA or IPS monitor produces an impressively beautiful image. An OLED display with full-on HDR has a uniquely stark presentation, but it's not everyone's cup of tea. I'm sitting in front of a 60Hz 32" VA 4K panel made by LG, and I think I paid less than $300 US for it. Its specs aren't great, but for what I do -- for what almost every PC user does -- it's perfectly fine. And did I say it cost under $300? I can buy four of the ones I have for the price of this thing.