I just looked him up. I think there are 2 Ali Sayed's sharing the same profile. He jumped from 73 to 123 kg in 6 years and went from 22 to 48 years old 😂😂
I've worked with nylon pa12 off a jet fusion printer and it's incredible. no visible print lines, nearly unidirectional properties. really nice to see informed materials and manufacturing choices, especially with a high-strain application like this. idk if it will be in the cards to pick one up but just know I love this work you're doing.
As an industrial product designer, this is really impressive. The exposed PCB and having only one way to hold it makes it not an option for me, but the continued weight and geometry optimisations across the different versions have been just crazy to follow along. One thing I can offer advice on, is that since you're using 3D printing anyways, You should offer a left handed version as well, from what I've seen of the PCB and 3D model, it seems as simple as mirroring the shell, so might as well go the extra mile to not exclude any of the already very niche potential customers. Also, if your 3D printing partner offers that option, different colors of Nylon could be nice, especially if finalmouse can make different colors of PCBs to match the shell.
In the "zeromouse" logo it looks like you are using ø, latin small letter o with stroke (U+00F8) used in for example the Norwegian & Danish language. More fitting would be to use the mathematical sign for empty set, Ø (U+2205). The stroke is supposed to be angled more upwards, often close to 60° for the mathematical sign.
I think it would still work better, also i dont like the 'blade' font, should have gone with something more sterile imo, even if they didnt want a serif font @haomingli6175
This final release feels like some sort of personal achievement. Watching it grow over iterations is something else and also inspiring. Also there must be Some credits given to zaunkoenig m2k. It was also very evolutionary shape and just 23g back when there was no zero mouse.
Ali, being a mech design engineer myself and following your dev of this product is pretty incredible, especially your CAD and process knowledge. If this doesn't secure you as one of the top tech/gaming content creators, nothing will. Mad props!
its not like top mouse manufacturers can't do this, but boiling it down to an exposed frame is something their marketing departments are never going to not fight.
I have the cooler master mm720. The holes on the back half of the mouse get dust inside and get clogged with dust literally every other day, not kidding. All the weight saving advantage goes out the window. DO NOT BUY A MOUSE WITH HOLES MUCH LESS WITH EXPOSED PCB!!!!!!!
@@kerkertrandov459 I mean compressed can air duster shouldn't have any issues. Or you know, just do a light dusting of your living space every so often.
@@kerkertrandov459lol reminds me of when having the thinnest device was the new trendy thing, or back in feature phone days when the smallest phone was considered the best. there will always be a new marketing trend, whether it's useful or not is debatable, but below a certain weight i personally cannot feel an appreciable difference. id much rather not have my mouse pcb exposed for my cats fur to get inside
ive made a version of this type of mouse for the g203/102 with sidebuttons and sidegrips at 51 grams, actually super easy to do and really cheap to 3d print, been using this thing for the past 3 months and it's amazing.
same. big plus. I see an implementation of a simple connector, to have them be optionally attached. could potentially only add minimal to the model without. Two separate models ofc also awesome
@@HeyNavi they don't have to be thumb buttons, my favourite side buttons are on the right side of my mouse and I hit the front one by squeezing in the knuckle of my ring finger and the back one by doing the same with my pinky - for the same reason of not compromising my movement grip which mostly comes from the tension between my thumb and middle finger.
@@yukea Shot of the motherboard right before this shows the other side, and pin count is more than the 5 of a Micro-USB port and is correct for USB-C. It just looks like Micro because the center of the connector's shielding has been trimmed out + camera angles not giving a clear profile on it.
sometimes it can also be too light for some people. I switched from the g pro superlight to a sora v2 (39g) and it was too light. From my experience the sweetspot is around 50+g, like the viper v3 pro.
@@maggi98mw I get what you're trying to say, but it's not necessarily the whole truth. A tiny bit of Inertia evens out your movement, without it you rely entirely on your muscles to stop precisely at the right position and we're not robots with micrometer precision. You might be fine for a couple of years when you're in your prime, but as you get older it could affect your accuracy. At 20 grams, any inertia caused by the mouse will likely be negligible compared to what your hand provides, meaning there will be very little (if anything) to gain from going lower.
Another thing to bear in mind is if you're using palm or claw grip; the Zero mouse *requires* using fingertip grip, which itself is significantly different.
@pika7294 Yeah I assumed so, just found it funny:D also probably has that as his name so people like us can talk about it, thus gaining more interactions^^
I watched a monitor review.. It was overwatch 1 back in the day.. I couldn't find the game or anything til it released as Overwatch 2 and I recognized it so I love it now lol
Optimum has to be hands down the best tech content creator oat. He plays FPS games, has a racing sim, is into cars and is designing his own mice. Insane.
I've been watching this guys content since this video. His content always makes me feel welcome and understood. As if he had me and other viewers like me in mind.
A purely fingertip grip mouse, especially at that weight (19g) would result in immensely unstable and shaky aim. Counter aiming for side button actuation isn’t ideal and defeats the purpose for the most precise and direct mouse. As I new fingertip grip user, I previously depended heavily on side buttons, now I’m learning newer binds on keyboard and entirely disregarding side buttons for the reasons stated above. I don’t see Mr ex powerlifter adding side buttons
Would love to see a left-handed version of this mouse. Nowadays, all new mice that come out have buttons on the left side, making them uncomfortable for lefties. Given that this mouse is 3D printed and doesn't have buttons, it may not be that difficult or expensive to make a left-handed version. In any case, love your work!
A few things. Firstly, its been awesome to watch the progress of this project. I'm hoping we see larger manufacturers take notice and start developing their own hyper lightweight mice. Second, PLEASE keep this thing in stock past the initial batch. I'm sure whatever stock you have will sell out almost immediately. Third, have you considered other colors of plastic? A white "shell" would look great.
Been quietly following along with this journey, and all I can say without trying one (and still sucking at FPS games a lot), man, I'm so proud of how far you've come. It's simply amazing, and you deserve it!
You mister are my role model if it is about persistence in projects execution, constant development and perfecting it. I think I'm just on the beggining of my journey comapring to your effects, but I will get there!
Would love to try this out but I will admit the omission of side buttons is a bit daunting to me. I use the side buttons a lot so it will be quite the learning curve. Awesome work, always great to see people push the limits.
@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeesesome games just have way too many key binds. And ppl have small hands. Ever played Tarkov? Prob not. With that kinda comment u seem like u exclusively play CoD
@@SteelKreel Cod is absolute terrible franchise and would advise all gamers that give a shit about themselves, their enjoyment factor while gaming and willingness to support development studios that actually care about their customers to never play cod games. Game choice issue. 😅
@@cactuscat8009 The product that is meant to be sold worldwide has to be durable, so the company doesn't have to repair and replace too many units. Also such mouse is extremely niche thing, so the price tag would be ridiculous. That's why asus, corsair, cooler master, razer, etc are rather copying gpx than making super optimal, sub 20g mice.
This mouse is really cool but super niche. This mouse is very fragile and companies can’t have that when they are selling a product. The companies support teams would be put through hell 😂
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Your channel, your work, fascinates me. Keep it up. Hope enough will be produced for everyone that wants it.
Agreed. Hate to see big companies never trying anything new and spamming the same shaped mouse to the market over and over again. Yes "default" shaped mouse is the most popular one and will sell, but i think there is something waiting for us in the future. Same thing happened with wooting and HE-keyboards. I guarantee some company could make a mouse that would be the new g-pro in popularity if they tried something new.
It's not really competition if they're the one selling the product. It's also amazing advertising for them; in this video Ali talks about how their tech is "best in the business", and ultra lightweight mouses are a very niche product, so that funnels anyone interested in a high end gaming mouse straight into Finalmouse's sales channel.
This is sick I remember the first video where he brought up this idea but brushed it off as it would be a long process, props to finalmouse collaborating with him on this. I love how he pushes the limit of peripheral extremes.
Ever since the first video you've inspired me to create my own version of the zero mouse with a hyperx pulsefire I've had laying around collecting dust. I really appreciate the effort you put into the product and videos as I've taken the experiences you've shared to create something of my own. Not that anyone would see this but i just wanted to share that using an extremely light mouse is an incredible feeling and if you guys are thinking about making your own version, go for it!
Looks amazing! Sadly it is probably impossible to get for people in the EU. Even if EU shipping is available, it will most likely cost more than the mouse itself (shipping + import tax). Such a bummer, as always. Love the video and product though :)
Side buttons would affect aim on that weight but side buttons are usually used when you don't need precise aim, e.g. melee at the end of a kill, crouching to rotate pre fight. Even non-mouse switch buttons would work since they're not that frequently used, just those square half size switches with a little paddle
I've been waiting and waiting for sooo long, it feels, since the mod-kit got out of stock. I expected another mod-kit to come out, but this is pure insanity. I'm so glad, both for us consumers and you as an entrepreneur, that you've made a full mouse. I can't wait to try it out!
@@Willicur me too tbh bro, sold out now though, this op1 8k is soo good man! hope your injury is healing well and you can get back to aiming. just purchased a 360hz QD OLED 1440p comes tomorrow, so buzzing! I followed you on all your socials aswell, love ur content. keep it up. you from uk or us
@@xVeano Thank you I really appreciate that, I got my op1 too and I used it a bit and it feels fantastic to aim with, Im hoping to get the PG27AQN soon, that thing looks perfect
I assume it’s a royalty free song from a music library somewhere because I’ve heard it in other videos too. I know jxmyhighroller uses it in pretty much every video
I don't even play games but love and appreciate what you've done here. Sub 20 grams is no joke. Major props to you man for bringing this to market. Greets from the UK
You are my absolute favourite RUclipsr man, its amazing to see your passion an quality in your videos, and clearly much more as well. Always happy to tune in!
@ it says sold out on the link for the product page, with the price $150. I assumed i missed it but "sold out" seems weird if it's a live product page that's not enabled.
@@turn1p I think he just listed it with stock set to zero in the backend. Wouldn't make sense for him to not mention that it's available for pre-order in the video.
hey optimum i love the brutalist rooms/warehouse/whatever the hell place your in. I love brutalism and it makes your videos SOOOO appealing and calming. i love the grey simplicity of the walls. (love the vids)
Yeah, as a very casual gamer where occasional TF2 is my most competitive title, it was a night-and-day difference for me when I rebound the 1/2/3 weapon switch keys to forward/back/MMB. Those forward/back side buttons are beyond essential.
I have a question; I know it would be expensive to some aspects but couldn’t you use carbon fibre to make it lighter and durable? Or would that but heavier than what we have already achieved?
Carbon fiber composite is actually quite heavy, it's extremely resistant for it's weight, but what makes carbon fiber composites "light" is that they can use much less material without sacrificing strength. for this application tho, the geometries are way too complex for current carbon fiber manufacturing techniques, and to actually get any lighter it would have to be so thin that you would likely cut yourself while using. carbon fiber composites also basically don't bend at all, the mouse would likely shatter after a few hundred clicks.
This is so sick to see I’m so glad I’ve been able to watch the development of this product and to even have software ready to go at launch I can’t wait to order mine
Super cool to see the progression of this mouse. I was a person who had a shipping issue (and then furthermore an email issue, I still blame Yahoo's mail search btw) and even with the delay (and easy fix since optimum's the goat), I would do it all again over and over if I had to. The old modkit version of the mouse is something I haven't stopped using daily. It's so comfortable and natural that I have even been using it as my work mouse. The weightlessness of the mouse can't really be experienced without...well, experiencing it firsthand. The fact that the mouse is finally getting it's full kit release is just unbelievable. All of the design tweaks to remove weight and make the grip more stable and comfortable, combined with proprietary (not sure of the right term) PCB, switches, and sensor is just unbelievable. I was worried at first when the plans of a standalone product was announced, as I knew how hard it would be to find good producers of the electronics, but FinalMouse collaborating is just unbelievable for everyone involved. Can't wait to buy one.
bro i just love to open your channel and see that u uploaded the editing and the video quality is insane its pure satisfaction i have been subbed for almost a week and i have watched like 7 videos already keep up the good work
Very impressive, missed out on the previous drops hopefully I can get in on this one. Watching your growth over the past years has been great. You got the ultimate keyboard built, the ultimate mouse, now it's time for you to start making monitors lol
I mean gaming and tech aside, these videos are a just a pure feast for the eyes. If you would release a course or something on your whole film making process I would happily buy it.
congrats on launching your own mouse. I like that Finalmouse is releasing the module as a stand-alone. I hope the community makes some STLs to go with the module since I really think we could have some really cool custom mice that way. SLS and SLA are isotropic materials when manufactured so from a structural standpoint This is going to be as strong as any injection molded Nylon part and maybe even stronger since you don't have stress from the part cooling unevenly during the injection process.
its been amazing to see all the iterations you've made on this mouse, insanely cool to see that you've moved from mod kit to full on product. and with a big name like final mouse! also genuinely impressed by the price, $150 is a downright reasonably priced gaming mouse these days :o
Honestly, I’m just glad that this is something that can be made by hobbyists if they go through the printing process (obv you can’t get the dope PCB but at this point I’m so done waiting for my M3K that I’d much prefer using something like this)
7:38 Are those faceted faces on the click paddles intentional? If not, I think there's an option in F360 to up the output file's smoothness. Very cool project either way
So cool that it's going to be a standalone product. My favourite mouse shape got disconnected, now I can download a 3D scan and print a new one. Can't wait.
Just missing some side buttons for the ultimate quake mouse, would be sick to have a mouse with doubled side buttons, like a 3-4 button superlight cluster instead of typical two button. Very niche and probably hard to implement, but would be cool :D
i LOVE the zerömouse v.35 ! It was not cheap too complete with high polling but man my hand loves you bro ❤ One of the first mice ive never had any trouble with grip hand fatigue or aiming hitches with ! I dont feel my grip weaken, because i aint use it. Now the preassure is so evenly laid down from my shoulder its scary , I remember death gripping my old mouse so much just to "get around" the shape that was holding me back in thight spots And with v.35 modkit i have no trouble I main it . AND AM SATISFIED BEYOND MY IMAGINATION headshot whatever i can click it fast as heck
You have created next level technology all on your own😮 you make these companies look silly, seeing that no one has gone down this path (that i know of at least). Great videos and great work man, cant wait to see the future brings 🙂❤️
i get that most likely you won't add side buttons for weight saving but perhaps you could add side tilting to the mouse wheel, pushing on it from the left, right and from the top would allow for 3 more mouse buttons with minimal weight added
This does something specific very well, like he said himself, to the point of obsession. But folk don't be fooled by the hype and placebo, this isn't the tree that will replace all mice but it is a branch into some well needed exploration.
Feedback: there's a problem with the space between the triggers, it makes the shape more unnatural and unsafe with pre-determined finger placement, and the reason for that is the scroowheel implementation, i believe that with a lower encoder like the one used in the G-Wolves HSK PRO and some tweaks, the stuff can go under the triggers like every mouse do so you have some space to place the fingers more naturally
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Next revision will be negative weight
helium filled mouse
Helium has positive weight@@HolyOllie
Maglev mouse and mouse pad combo
its would be hovering with magnets XD
Does that mean a hole in your hand?
The channel got bigger, the biceps got bigger, the space got bigger and the poor mouse has paid the ultimate price for it all
lol nice
optimum daddy 🥵
@@eduardorivas5587 I remember watching him 3 years ago when he was below 200k it's kind of a valid glaze man.
@@eduardorivas5587 justified glaze tho ‼
Your palm will pay the price. Mouse is just a medium.
alternate title: ex powerlifter makes his mouse lighter every video
life is about dropping the weight...
😂😂
I just looked him up. I think there are 2 Ali Sayed's sharing the same profile. He jumped from 73 to 123 kg in 6 years and went from 22 to 48 years old 😂😂
@@oftankoftan Ageing 26 years will do that 😂😂😂😂
@@BOZ_11or steroids
I've worked with nylon pa12 off a jet fusion printer and it's incredible. no visible print lines, nearly unidirectional properties. really nice to see informed materials and manufacturing choices, especially with a high-strain application like this.
idk if it will be in the cards to pick one up but just know I love this work you're doing.
As an industrial product designer, this is really impressive.
The exposed PCB and having only one way to hold it makes it not an option for me, but the continued weight and geometry optimisations across the different versions have been just crazy to follow along.
One thing I can offer advice on, is that since you're using 3D printing anyways, You should offer a left handed version as well, from what I've seen of the PCB and 3D model, it seems as simple as mirroring the shell, so might as well go the extra mile to not exclude any of the already very niche potential customers.
Also, if your 3D printing partner offers that option, different colors of Nylon could be nice, especially if finalmouse can make different colors of PCBs to match the shell.
Next revision will have the pcb attached to the palm itself
then micro chip batter sensor wthin palm and replaces skink layers on his finger tips with some sort hardened PTFE skate alternative lmfao
Neuralink mouse integration for zero latency headshots
Bro don't give him ideas 😂
No battery needed. Just run off power created by the human.
Cyberpunk 2077
This guy's gonna solve every question surrounding black matter just to create the lightest mouse in the universe.
Dark matter...?
@@jacktaber8489 yeah he means 'dark'.
you can rudce the wieght without reducing mass just add something lighter than air eg helium
He’s talking about a new type of matter we’ve yet to discover
@Penguinizerrr No, he's not. "Black matter" is not a thing.
In the "zeromouse" logo it looks like you are using ø, latin small letter o with stroke (U+00F8) used in for example the Norwegian & Danish language. More fitting would be to use the mathematical sign for empty set, Ø (U+2205). The stroke is supposed to be angled more upwards, often close to 60° for the mathematical sign.
This guy strokes 👍
the empty set symbol will be too big, unless that is what you want.
Average giggabrain Optimum enjoyer:
Zerö mouse
I think it would still work better, also i dont like the 'blade' font, should have gone with something more sterile imo, even if they didnt want a serif font @haomingli6175
This final release feels like some sort of personal achievement. Watching it grow over iterations is something else and also inspiring. Also there must be Some credits given to zaunkoenig m2k. It was also very evolutionary shape and just 23g back when there was no zero mouse.
Ali, being a mech design engineer myself and following your dev of this product is pretty incredible, especially your CAD and process knowledge. If this doesn't secure you as one of the top tech/gaming content creators, nothing will. Mad props!
its not like top mouse manufacturers can't do this, but boiling it down to an exposed frame is something their marketing departments are never going to not fight.
I have the cooler master mm720. The holes on the back half of the mouse get dust inside and get clogged with dust literally every other day, not kidding. All the weight saving advantage goes out the window. DO NOT BUY A MOUSE WITH HOLES MUCH LESS WITH EXPOSED PCB!!!!!!!
@@kerkertrandov459 How is this going to get dust clogged in holes. There's no holes.
@@kerkertrandov459 I mean compressed can air duster shouldn't have any issues. Or you know, just do a light dusting of your living space every so often.
@@kerkertrandov459lol reminds me of when having the thinnest device was the new trendy thing, or back in feature phone days when the smallest phone was considered the best. there will always be a new marketing trend, whether it's useful or not is debatable, but below a certain weight i personally cannot feel an appreciable difference. id much rather not have my mouse pcb exposed for my cats fur to get inside
@@kerkertrandov459I used that mouse for years without that issue
Would try it if it had the 2 side buttons aswell, i need those
same
+1 wee need a version with side buttons 👌🏻
ive made a version of this type of mouse for the g203/102 with sidebuttons and sidegrips at 51 grams, actually super easy to do and really cheap to 3d print, been using this thing for the past 3 months and it's amazing.
same
I could live without the 2 side buttons if the scroll wheel was 16 step and had side tilting. Gaining two extra mouse buttons
i would love to have side buttons in this concept, would be such a perfect mouse, but it is still great! Love your work!
same. big plus. I see an implementation of a simple connector, to have them be optionally attached. could potentially only add minimal to the model without. Two separate models ofc also awesome
Same, I often use the side buttons for melee
Maybe the solution is to split the clicks and add side buttons there? There's a lot of room to innovate on mouse button layout.
Side buttons don’t work well with fingertip mice. As soon as you lift your thumb off, you lose your grip.
@@HeyNavi they don't have to be thumb buttons, my favourite side buttons are on the right side of my mouse and I hit the front one by squeezing in the knuckle of my ring finger and the back one by doing the same with my pinky - for the same reason of not compromising my movement grip which mostly comes from the tension between my thumb and middle finger.
Ahhh the feeling of coming home and seeing a new optimum video to then watch it on the tv while just relaxing and appreciate peak tech.
Fantastic. But why does it use micro USB and not USB-C?
Weight savings, i don't know if it is true but it should net about 0,5-1 gram in savings.
9:40 its def using an usb-c and not micro usb
@@ellitle7608 thats definitely micro usb
@@yukea Shot of the motherboard right before this shows the other side, and pin count is more than the 5 of a Micro-USB port and is correct for USB-C. It just looks like Micro because the center of the connector's shielding has been trimmed out + camera angles not giving a clear profile on it.
Probably cause it's heavier?
I just started using the G Pro X Superlight and going from the G502 LS to 63 grams feels insane. I can't imagine how 19 feels.
sometimes it can also be too light for some people. I switched from the g pro superlight to a sora v2 (39g) and it was too light. From my experience the sweetspot is around 50+g, like the viper v3 pro.
@@i_love_icet2764Not really tho? Less weight is always less inertia, so after getting used to it it's always (marginally maybe) better
based on my own testing after 60 grams there is pretty much no difference and you ought to focus on shape and comfort instead.
@@maggi98mw I get what you're trying to say, but it's not necessarily the whole truth. A tiny bit of Inertia evens out your movement, without it you rely entirely on your muscles to stop precisely at the right position and we're not robots with micrometer precision. You might be fine for a couple of years when you're in your prime, but as you get older it could affect your accuracy. At 20 grams, any inertia caused by the mouse will likely be negligible compared to what your hand provides, meaning there will be very little (if anything) to gain from going lower.
Another thing to bear in mind is if you're using palm or claw grip; the Zero mouse *requires* using fingertip grip, which itself is significantly different.
optimum is an overwatch addict
Relatable.
his name is meow 😭
@@Hexishutbf i think he either changes names a lot or has multiple accounts in rotation, its rarely the same between videos
@pika7294 Yeah I assumed so, just found it funny:D also probably has that as his name so people like us can talk about it, thus gaining more interactions^^
I watched a monitor review.. It was overwatch 1 back in the day.. I couldn't find the game or anything til it released as Overwatch 2 and I recognized it so I love it now lol
Optimum has to be hands down the best tech content creator oat. He plays FPS games, has a racing sim, is into cars and is designing his own mice. Insane.
He is batman of gaming
also doesnt put two sponsor segments or create a 15min sponsor vid and ofc quality over quantity
And makes some of the best SFF content on the internet
Can't emphasize how much it helps that he's an actual gamer. Not just Linus Tech Tips Stardew Valley soy gamer.
Helps that he ain't some Canadian guy of corp shilling "tech" media company
I've been watching this guys content since this video.
His content always makes me feel welcome and understood. As if he had me and other viewers like me in mind.
when are side buttons coming to the zeromouse?
This is really needed 🙏
+
A purely fingertip grip mouse, especially at that weight (19g) would result in immensely unstable and shaky aim. Counter aiming for side button actuation isn’t ideal and defeats the purpose for the most precise and direct mouse.
As I new fingertip grip user, I previously depended heavily on side buttons, now I’m learning newer binds on keyboard and entirely disregarding side buttons for the reasons stated above.
I don’t see Mr ex powerlifter adding side buttons
Heresy
i think never
Get rid of the battery entirely using the Logitech capacitor based mat :P
just don't accidentally lift the mouse off the pad 😅
The Logitech mat would still require some hardware on the mouse to receive the wireless power, might just make the mouse heavier
@@squishyd00d19 Can confirm. Logitech mice (except the GPX Superlight) are insanely heavily
@pipedreams. got nothing to do with the hardware though. its just logitech being logitech
Would love to see a left-handed version of this mouse. Nowadays, all new mice that come out have buttons on the left side, making them uncomfortable for lefties. Given that this mouse is 3D printed and doesn't have buttons, it may not be that difficult or expensive to make a left-handed version. In any case, love your work!
looking at the PCB attachment points, it would basically be as simple as mirroring the 3D model of the shell, with maybe just a few minor adjustments.
Love the new camera angles. Your quality is always top notch along with your reviews. Much respect.
this is so sick, i was a skeptic at first but seeing how far you got with this is just mind-blowing, wishing you continued success
A few things.
Firstly, its been awesome to watch the progress of this project. I'm hoping we see larger manufacturers take notice and start developing their own hyper lightweight mice.
Second, PLEASE keep this thing in stock past the initial batch. I'm sure whatever stock you have will sell out almost immediately.
Third, have you considered other colors of plastic? A white "shell" would look great.
hi silver
A white version would go hard
It’s likely it will stay in stock considering that Fonalmouse is planning on making the PCB a stand alone product they offer.
the beauty of 3d printing is you can just load nylon with another coloring agent or also just no color and get infinite versions
It sold out lol
9:09 time to change that steam name
Tell me about lobsters then
9:19 too lel
Opti banger just before new years?
Been quietly following along with this journey, and all I can say without trying one (and still sucking at FPS games a lot), man, I'm so proud of how far you've come. It's simply amazing, and you deserve it!
@optimum massive respect! Every video i see has just been a level up buddy.
This product right here just shows how true you are to your craft.
I cannot wait to use this mouse. I'm excited to see someone with a lot of passion being able to bring their ideas to fruition.
Dude invented a whole new mouse and going to make his own company. Insane lore
Invented lol.
@1stRanger He did? :) Unique never seen design for a mouse with reverse clicks and all.
Literally just watched that original one year-old video today. So impressive and creative. Badass.
You mister are my role model if it is about persistence in projects execution, constant development and perfecting it.
I think I'm just on the beggining of my journey comapring to your effects, but I will get there!
Man I was so upset when I missed the first drop and now this update is amazing gotta lock in for something of such quality and passion. Great job Ali
Would love to try this out but I will admit the omission of side buttons is a bit daunting to me. I use the side buttons a lot so it will be quite the learning curve. Awesome work, always great to see people push the limits.
Side buttons on a mouse are overrated. Keybinds skill issue. 😅
@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeesesome games just have way too many key binds. And ppl have small hands. Ever played Tarkov? Prob not. With that kinda comment u seem like u exclusively play CoD
@@TheMostSavageOfAllGeese Other way around
@@SteelKreel Cod is absolute terrible franchise and would advise all gamers that give a shit about themselves, their enjoyment factor while gaming and willingness to support development studios that actually care about their customers to never play cod games. Game choice issue. 😅
@@jesperburns keyboard form factor issue?😅
multi-million companies trying to build a lightweight mice;
this one guy with a 3D model:
This just shows how suboptimal companies and their bored employees are.
Ali has skill and passionand creativity, and that really counts
@cactuscat8009 yes!
how do we know he isn't a multi-million company
@@cactuscat8009 The product that is meant to be sold worldwide has to be durable, so the company doesn't have to repair and replace too many units. Also such mouse is extremely niche thing, so the price tag would be ridiculous. That's why asus, corsair, cooler master, razer, etc are rather copying gpx than making super optimal, sub 20g mice.
This mouse is really cool but super niche. This mouse is very fragile and companies can’t have that when they are selling a product. The companies support teams would be put through hell 😂
Bro got the jxmyhighroller background music. Yall kind of the both the goats of your youtube genre so I respect it.
Yeah i was waiting for there to be a graph or chart just randomly pop up getting ready to blow your mind
Can't wait to get my hands on one of these. Your channel, your work, fascinates me. Keep it up. Hope enough will be produced for everyone that wants it.
Very proud of you man for doing something so creative and so inspiring!
Do you know when falcon comes out? The possiblity to have the best pcb but create your own 3d bodies to mold to your own hand sounds amazing
The next iteration will just be a laser diode taped to pinky finger, and haptic mousepad for the button press.
That's what I'm thinking. Some sort of fingertip + advanced mousepad combo.
Still too heavy for him. He needs it to make his hands lighter so he can get MAXIMUM SKILL LEVEL
@@grunzythepotato exactly, just remove a pinky finger
@@RicochetForce 2025 is the year of trackpad gaming, only need 1 finger to operate lol
@@tapebysea Bro, I would laugh my ass off if the endpoint of all this is just a damn trackpad.
Have to respect finalmouse for enabling competition for the sake of progress
Agreed. Hate to see big companies never trying anything new and spamming the same shaped mouse to the market over and over again. Yes "default" shaped mouse is the most popular one and will sell, but i think there is something waiting for us in the future. Same thing happened with wooting and HE-keyboards. I guarantee some company could make a mouse that would be the new g-pro in popularity if they tried something new.
It's not really competition if they're the one selling the product. It's also amazing advertising for them; in this video Ali talks about how their tech is "best in the business", and ultra lightweight mouses are a very niche product, so that funnels anyone interested in a high end gaming mouse straight into Finalmouse's sales channel.
This is sick I remember the first video where he brought up this idea but brushed it off as it would be a long process, props to finalmouse collaborating with him on this. I love how he pushes the limit of peripheral extremes.
So happy for you, been following for quite a time and the things you've achieved...awesome work man!!
thats crazy that finalmouse were interested & that you got them to make a pcb for your brand. Rare YT product releases like this are so cool dud
Nice! Just curious though, why not use optical switches?
Battery life I assume
How do you make the floating product shots? Are those actually Blender renders? 0:22 for reference
obvious renders, look at the PCB.
@@-eMpTy- okay
not that obvious i think. but yes, definitely renders. :)
Ever since the first video you've inspired me to create my own version of the zero mouse with a hyperx pulsefire I've had laying around collecting dust. I really appreciate the effort you put into the product and videos as I've taken the experiences you've shared to create something of my own. Not that anyone would see this but i just wanted to share that using an extremely light mouse is an incredible feeling and if you guys are thinking about making your own version, go for it!
this is one of those channels that is mind-blowingly good
i might have considered getting one, but no side buttons is a complete dealbreaker
Looks amazing! Sadly it is probably impossible to get for people in the EU. Even if EU shipping is available, it will most likely cost more than the mouse itself (shipping + import tax). Such a bummer, as always.
Love the video and product though :)
1:45 why do you have a highground keyboard on your desk?
Why ? Whats wrong with that?
@ he has a custom wooting keyboard
Side buttons would affect aim on that weight but side buttons are usually used when you don't need precise aim, e.g. melee at the end of a kill, crouching to rotate pre fight. Even non-mouse switch buttons would work since they're not that frequently used, just those square half size switches with a little paddle
I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE BUT TRYING TO GET A MOUSE FROM FINAL MOUSE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF TRYING TO WIN THE LOTTERY!
We’re so back
I've been waiting and waiting for sooo long, it feels, since the mod-kit got out of stock. I expected another mod-kit to come out, but this is pure insanity. I'm so glad, both for us consumers and you as an entrepreneur, that you've made a full mouse. I can't wait to try it out!
what song is that at 2:20? it sounds beautiful
Fancy seeing you here 😂
@@xVeano lol that's crazy, I want this mouse so bad
@@Willicur me too tbh bro, sold out now though, this op1 8k is soo good man! hope your injury is healing well and you can get back to aiming. just purchased a 360hz QD OLED 1440p comes tomorrow, so buzzing! I followed you on all your socials aswell, love ur content. keep it up. you from uk or us
@@xVeano Thank you I really appreciate that, I got my op1 too and I used it a bit and it feels fantastic to aim with, Im hoping to get the PG27AQN soon, that thing looks perfect
I assume it’s a royalty free song from a music library somewhere because I’ve heard it in other videos too. I know jxmyhighroller uses it in pretty much every video
Congrats, incredible how far ahead of the industry you are. Keep at it 👍🏼
I don't even play games but love and appreciate what you've done here. Sub 20 grams is no joke. Major props to you man for bringing this to market. Greets from the UK
this man is creating his own sponsored ads with his own content WHAT A MADMAN
Not Batman of gaming for nothing
did bro just got anamorphic lens
How is this already sold out? T-T
This one isn't released yet, must be the older version you're looking at
Nevermind, I'm stupid.
@@majkwazowski6063no you’re not lol. It says “coming end of q1 2025.”
I never thought I would want this... until I looked down at my hand fingertip gripping my mouse. Truly an enthusiast project. I love it.
You are my absolute favourite RUclipsr man, its amazing to see your passion an quality in your videos, and clearly much more as well. Always happy to tune in!
I already missed the pre order and i checked 13 MINUTES after launch 😓
I don't think there was a preorder option?
@ it says sold out on the link for the product page, with the price $150. I assumed i missed it but "sold out" seems weird if it's a live product page that's not enabled.
@@turn1p
I think he just listed it with stock set to zero in the backend. Wouldn't make sense for him to not mention that it's available for pre-order in the video.
@ dang it, I definitely won't be any faster when it's really time 😅
Babe wake up, batman is making another banger mice
Props to Final Mouse for this. Super Based.
hey optimum i love the brutalist rooms/warehouse/whatever the hell place your in. I love brutalism and it makes your videos SOOOO appealing and calming. i love the grey simplicity of the walls. (love the vids)
200$ is pretty crazy for something 3d printed.
ah shit, here we go again
We need side button version ⬇
Yeah, as a very casual gamer where occasional TF2 is my most competitive title, it was a night-and-day difference for me when I rebound the 1/2/3 weapon switch keys to forward/back/MMB. Those forward/back side buttons are beyond essential.
I have a question; I know it would be expensive to some aspects but couldn’t you use carbon fibre to make it lighter and durable? Or would that but heavier than what we have already achieved?
Carbon fiber composite is actually quite heavy, it's extremely resistant for it's weight, but what makes carbon fiber composites "light" is that they can use much less material without sacrificing strength.
for this application tho, the geometries are way too complex for current carbon fiber manufacturing techniques, and to actually get any lighter it would have to be so thin that you would likely cut yourself while using.
carbon fiber composites also basically don't bend at all, the mouse would likely shatter after a few hundred clicks.
This is so sick to see I’m so glad I’ve been able to watch the development of this product and to even have software ready to go at launch I can’t wait to order mine
Might be a large ask but with future revisions would you consider making the mouse upgradable?
Super cool to see the progression of this mouse.
I was a person who had a shipping issue (and then furthermore an email issue, I still blame Yahoo's mail search btw) and even with the delay (and easy fix since optimum's the goat), I would do it all again over and over if I had to.
The old modkit version of the mouse is something I haven't stopped using daily. It's so comfortable and natural that I have even been using it as my work mouse. The weightlessness of the mouse can't really be experienced without...well, experiencing it firsthand.
The fact that the mouse is finally getting it's full kit release is just unbelievable. All of the design tweaks to remove weight and make the grip more stable and comfortable, combined with proprietary (not sure of the right term) PCB, switches, and sensor is just unbelievable. I was worried at first when the plans of a standalone product was announced, as I knew how hard it would be to find good producers of the electronics, but FinalMouse collaborating is just unbelievable for everyone involved.
Can't wait to buy one.
“Where’s my mouse???”
the mouse in the other side of the room you didn’t notice you threw cause it’s so light:
If the shell is 3d printed, is there an option for a mirror, lefty version?
bro i just love to open your channel and see that u uploaded
the editing and the video quality is insane
its pure satisfaction
i have been subbed for almost a week
and i have watched like 7 videos already
keep up the good work
Optimum's shoots are always INSANE!!!!
its also worth pointing out injection molding has incredibly high up front costs, and only makes financial sense if you're doing large batches
this makes custom mice that people can 3d print their own, opens the door to so much possibility so cool!
Very impressive, missed out on the previous drops hopefully I can get in on this one. Watching your growth over the past years has been great.
You got the ultimate keyboard built, the ultimate mouse, now it's time for you to start making monitors lol
I mean gaming and tech aside, these videos are a just a pure feast for the eyes.
If you would release a course or something on your whole film making process I would happily buy it.
this is next level design tbh, i can see in the future weird futuristic mouses that are so light they almost wrap around your hand
congrats on launching your own mouse. I like that Finalmouse is releasing the module as a stand-alone. I hope the community makes some STLs to go with the module since I really think we could have some really cool custom mice that way. SLS and SLA are isotropic materials when manufactured so from a structural standpoint This is going to be as strong as any injection molded Nylon part and maybe even stronger since you don't have stress from the part cooling unevenly during the injection process.
its been amazing to see all the iterations you've made on this mouse, insanely cool to see that you've moved from mod kit to full on product. and with a big name like final mouse! also genuinely impressed by the price, $150 is a downright reasonably priced gaming mouse these days :o
Honestly, I’m just glad that this is something that can be made by hobbyists if they go through the printing process (obv you can’t get the dope PCB but at this point I’m so done waiting for my M3K that I’d much prefer using something like this)
I love your minimalistic aesthetic when it comes to computers matches my mojoo
7:38 Are those faceted faces on the click paddles intentional? If not, I think there's an option in F360 to up the output file's smoothness. Very cool project either way
So cool that it's going to be a standalone product.
My favourite mouse shape got disconnected, now I can download a 3D scan and print a new one.
Can't wait.
Just missing some side buttons for the ultimate quake mouse, would be sick to have a mouse with doubled side buttons, like a 3-4 button superlight cluster instead of typical two button. Very niche and probably hard to implement, but would be cool :D
all im gonna say is that mouse is BEAUTIFUL
I love that finalmouse will be making this a standalone pcb through this. I think this could really be a game changer if people embrace the idea.
Truly optimum tech, this man is insane. Makes me wish i was an mnk game lol
I hope you make another version of this mouse with side buttons
Excellent work. Great to see how the project has grown and you with it. Can't wait to test it myself :)
i LOVE the zerömouse v.35 !
It was not cheap too complete with high polling
but man my hand loves you bro ❤
One of the first mice ive never had any trouble with grip hand fatigue or aiming hitches with !
I dont feel my grip weaken, because i aint use it. Now the preassure is so evenly laid down from my shoulder its scary ,
I remember death gripping my old mouse so much just to "get around" the shape that was holding me back in thight spots
And with v.35 modkit i have no trouble
I main it .
AND AM SATISFIED BEYOND MY IMAGINATION headshot whatever i can click it fast as heck
You have created next level technology all on your own😮 you make these companies look silly, seeing that no one has gone down this path (that i know of at least). Great videos and great work man, cant wait to see the future brings 🙂❤️
i get that most likely you won't add side buttons for weight saving but perhaps you could add side tilting to the mouse wheel, pushing on it from the left, right and from the top would allow for 3 more mouse buttons with minimal weight added
This does something specific very well, like he said himself, to the point of obsession.
But folk don't be fooled by the hype and placebo, this isn't the tree that will replace all mice but it is a branch into some well needed exploration.
Feedback: there's a problem with the space between the triggers, it makes the shape more unnatural and unsafe with pre-determined finger placement, and the reason for that is the scroowheel implementation, i believe that with a lower encoder like the one used in the G-Wolves HSK PRO and some tweaks, the stuff can go under the triggers like every mouse do so you have some space to place the fingers more naturally