14 bit electronic shutter is an absolute win. The first year of having the r6 II and i am already at 60.000 photos with mechanical shutter. With 14 bit from electronic shutter, your camera will go a long way.
I'm still sticking to my guns that the R6III is a ways off and that everyone is getting on the refresh rumors bandwagon because the R5II came out, which drove down the price of the R5 (new and used) which put a used R5 in the range of a new R6II...so they had to drop the R6II several hundred dollars...which has jump started all these R6III rumors.
The funny thing is the current R6 II has less rolling shutter than the partially stacked z6 III (as proven by Tony Northrup's test at 4k60). The R6 II has 14ms readout which is faster than the 15ms on the z6 III. You only get 11ms if you shoot JPG. R6 II also has more sensor/photo dynamic range and slightly lower noise. Also, mismatched card slots suck to put it bluntly. I shot as a pro for 12 years with the 1D III which used CF and SD card slots and it was super annoying. Plus then you are essentially limited by the slower card anyway if you want to shoot redundant. Now with 2 matching slots on the R6 II, it's just so much nicer. No need for separate readers, no need to worry that you are recording to the proper card all the time, no need to worry about buying different media. Sure you get one faster card, but again, you are limited by the weakest link anyway in most situations unless you are fine using only 1 card slot.
Completely agree about CF express Type B. It would essentially be an instant buy for me over r5ii provided Clog 2 is available and 10 bit Canon profiles
I had an EOS RP, and I really loved it. In fact, a couple of my all time favorite shots came from that camera. I was thinking about it just the other day, and remembering the first UHS-II cards I bought. The R5 was the first camera I owned with CFExpress Type B storage, and it was like night and day. That's one feature I can't imagine being without these days. Maybe sticking with SD slots is one of the ways they will try not to cannibalize the R5's market, but I would think most people looking to buy in the R6 line would rather have a single CFExpress slot, rather than dual SD slots. For me that would be a no-brainer. You know they have to pull out the cripple hammer somewhere. But even if most of those specs are accurate, they better have their supply issues straightened out, because they are going to sell a lot of them. I know we have to wait and see, but at least you go through some logical analysis instead of just throwing stuff at the wall and then crowing about the ones that stuck when the announcement is finally made. It's kind of fun to try and guess what a company like Canon is thinking ahead of time.
Canon won’t put the faster card in the R6 III. That’s their differentiator for the R5ii. They could do it in the R7ii since the crop has limitations compared to full frame but would be impressive if R6iii had a stacked sensor, eye control, AI AF chip and I want the R7ii to have the same. I’d get both bodies instantly.
Bad dynamic range? Do you own the R5 II? I do, and it doesn't have worse dynamic range in video, its better, for stills when shooting around 12,800 its definitely worse. This is the result of a stacked sensor... Canno, Nikon and sony stacked sensors all do this.
There's a lot of pressure on Canon after the Z6-III came out. I have to admit that Nikon would get my money if the Z6-III was out at the same time as the R6-II. I've always liked the Nikon color science and ergonomics compared to Canon. They also have a more consistent button and dial layout. Canon changes control layouts with almost every model! Now that Nikon is catching up to Canon in terms of AF performance, and have dropped in a CF Express slot, they seem to be taking Canon to the woodshed. Very smart of them to come in at under $2500. You can't beat that!
I am as well in full agreement with you. On how technically desirable Nikon has turned itself into. I am adding that I am. Witholding purchasing a Z9 thinking a few months after that. Nikon will announce their Z9ll. With a majority of Reds video technology. Including Red's 20 stops of dynamic range. With all of its colorscience built into it. Talk about a true hybrid camera.
I'm finally ready to upgrade my 5D4. Considering an announcement might not be too far off, I think I'd be doing myself a disservice by buying an R6ii or Z6iii now and potentially missing out on new tech in an R6iii. I've got the "new camera" bug so hoping we hear something official soon! I'm excited to get into a new body with the latest video specs and autofocus systems.
I went from then 5D4 to R62. Believe me you are not going to missing out on anything by buying the R62 now. The 5D4 is a great camera but hold a candle to the R62, which is hands down the best dollar for dollar value in Canon’s entire lineup
Check out this memory card from B&H, I already ordered this for my pending EOS R1...Transcend 1TB CFexpress 900 Type B Memory Card for $189.99. I already asked B&H if these will be compatible with the R1 and they said yes...PCIe 4.0 x2 bus to provide maximum read speeds of 3500 MB/s and maximum write speeds of 2800 MB/s.
All Type B cards are compatible. You can even use gen 4, just won't benefit from gen 4 speeds. You can even use slower cards, but won't get full benefit. Watch out for sustained write speed, not top speed. You want cards that can keep a high write speed regardless of the environment or how full the card is ;)
I’ve always figured the 6 series models (6D and R6) to be aimed at the portrait/wedding shooters, so the high frame rates always seem unnecessary. Especially for “strobists.”
Hi Simon, thanks for setting the rumors records straight ! It's indeed a clear red flag when a stacked (hence faster) sensor would result in a lower fps compared to the predecessor.
There are usually some red flags when the information is made up ;). The R5 II specs on November 22, 2022 had five of them, and the R1 30mp specs also had red flags ;)
Releasing the R with 30 was a mistake. Ever since people feel let down by 24mp. I still think 26-30 is a goos range, but shot with 24 for many years without it being an issue.
I just hope that Canon either remedies their issue with the low supply of their P batteries, or allow full (or mostly full) functionality with the NH battery. I have a handful of the NH batteries for my R7, and I'd like to run both in conjunction. Or I go with the R6ii instead.
I can't think of a good reason why they don't. It worked in the MK1, it should work in the MK2 unless they tweeted the videos modes giving making them better somehow.
One thing to keep in mind far more wedding photographers buy the R6MKI & R6MK2 than either the R5 or R5MKII. Canon are acutely aware of this that’s partially why the R6 MKII came out so quickly and had better autofocus than the R5 after their feedback. The camera to be worthwhile to these photographers needs to have the same level of AF as the R5MKII again the original R6 had the same AF as the R5. There is no real advantage have a stacked sensor for weddings but 30mp like the original R had would be. Clog.2 would be an advantage but knowing Canon they will limit this to the R5MKII. As to slots I can see the pluses and minuses. If you also have an R5. / R5MK2 then CFast is not an issue if you don’t then SD cards are still fine unless your biased to video.
If Canon stays with the power switch where it is now on R6II I won't upgrade. Minor deal for some but for me it's been a pain in the butt. On the R6 and my other Canon's I pick up the camera and my left thumb flips on the power w/o thinking (muscle memory). Now I have to pick up the camera and look down at the camera to find it and get my big finger in there to turn it on. Slow, possible missed shots.
Canon R6 Mark III I hope at last will be switching from outdated, decades old front-lit to BSI-CMOS sensors, if not I'm going back to Sony. At this point mirrorless camera makers should have been experimenting with much more efficient and sensitive SPAD, quantum dot and graphene enhanced CMOS sensors. Graphene sensors are x1000 more sensitive than current ones and can detect even deep thermal infrared spectrum so just imagine enormous possibilities.
It's a mid market camera sdctor hugely important, they need Z6 III. People are expecting an update every 2 years or so, I presume they track sales and selling price numbers likely fall off after certain time.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Yes that's true. But for most of the shooters who shoot weddings, fashion, portraits, interior, architecture, events and moderate sports, R6II is enough albeit little higher MP would be better. Except for the situations where high speed is needed.
Thanks for your thoughts, Simon. I'll wait until the Canon EOS 6 III is released. I am unlikely to buy this camera. I am holding out for the R7 II which will probably take another a few years before it's released. Re the stacked sensor hype, this has taken over from dynamic range hype. I believe they're sticking to SD cards because they are much cheaper than the CFExpress type B cards.
It will be a solid update over the R6 II, which is where it will be aimed at. I wonder how much Canon is taking note of the Z6 III. Nikon put a good effort in the that camera. I just wish they'd finally put in a CFexpress Type B card slot.
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14 bit electronic shutter is an absolute win. The first year of having the r6 II and i am already at 60.000 photos with mechanical shutter. With 14 bit from electronic shutter, your camera will go a long way.
They already last a long time. My 70D bought in 2012 is still going strong... I think it was 2012...might have been 2013...
I'm still sticking to my guns that the R6III is a ways off and that everyone is getting on the refresh rumors bandwagon because the R5II came out, which drove down the price of the R5 (new and used) which put a used R5 in the range of a new R6II...so they had to drop the R6II several hundred dollars...which has jump started all these R6III rumors.
All signs point to a 2025 announcement. Just because E8M put something out, doesn't mean its a leak.
The funny thing is the current R6 II has less rolling shutter than the partially stacked z6 III (as proven by Tony Northrup's test at 4k60). The R6 II has 14ms readout which is faster than the 15ms on the z6 III. You only get 11ms if you shoot JPG. R6 II also has more sensor/photo dynamic range and slightly lower noise.
Also, mismatched card slots suck to put it bluntly. I shot as a pro for 12 years with the 1D III which used CF and SD card slots and it was super annoying. Plus then you are essentially limited by the slower card anyway if you want to shoot redundant. Now with 2 matching slots on the R6 II, it's just so much nicer. No need for separate readers, no need to worry that you are recording to the proper card all the time, no need to worry about buying different media. Sure you get one faster card, but again, you are limited by the weakest link anyway in most situations unless you are fine using only 1 card slot.
Completely agree about CF express Type B.
It would essentially be an instant buy for me over r5ii provided Clog 2 is available and 10 bit Canon profiles
I had an EOS RP, and I really loved it. In fact, a couple of my all time favorite shots came from that camera. I was thinking about it just the other day, and remembering the first UHS-II cards I bought. The R5 was the first camera I owned with CFExpress Type B storage, and it was like night and day. That's one feature I can't imagine being without these days. Maybe sticking with SD slots is one of the ways they will try not to cannibalize the R5's market, but I would think most people looking to buy in the R6 line would rather have a single CFExpress slot, rather than dual SD slots. For me that would be a no-brainer.
You know they have to pull out the cripple hammer somewhere. But even if most of those specs are accurate, they better have their supply issues straightened out, because they are going to sell a lot of them.
I know we have to wait and see, but at least you go through some logical analysis instead of just throwing stuff at the wall and then crowing about the ones that stuck when the announcement is finally made. It's kind of fun to try and guess what a company like Canon is thinking ahead of time.
I'd like to see Canon ditch the SD card slot in the R5 III. Its not going to canabalize the R3 or R1...
Canon won’t put the faster card in the R6 III. That’s their differentiator for the R5ii. They could do it in the R7ii since the crop has limitations compared to full frame but would be impressive if R6iii had a stacked sensor, eye control, AI AF chip and I want the R7ii to have the same. I’d get both bodies instantly.
I think they should, but suspect they won't just like the R53 likely won't get dual CFB cards slots.
If this inherits the same bad dynamic range as the R5ii amongst other complaints, and has just a few upgrades, its not worth it.
Bad dynamic range? Do you own the R5 II? I do, and it doesn't have worse dynamic range in video, its better, for stills when shooting around 12,800 its definitely worse. This is the result of a stacked sensor... Canno, Nikon and sony stacked sensors all do this.
To record DCI 6k the minimum sensor resolution need to be 25.166 mpxl (active pixels)
There's a lot of pressure on Canon after the Z6-III came out. I have to admit that Nikon would get my money if the Z6-III was out at the same time as the R6-II. I've always liked the Nikon color science and ergonomics compared to Canon. They also have a more consistent button and dial layout. Canon changes control layouts with almost every model! Now that Nikon is catching up to Canon in terms of AF performance, and have dropped in a CF Express slot, they seem to be taking Canon to the woodshed. Very smart of them to come in at under $2500. You can't beat that!
I am as well in full agreement with you. On how technically desirable Nikon has turned itself into. I am adding that I am. Witholding purchasing a Z9 thinking a few months after that. Nikon will announce their Z9ll. With a majority of Reds video technology. Including Red's 20 stops of dynamic range. With all of its colorscience built into it. Talk about a true hybrid camera.
What are chances of r6iii having the new pre capture mode as r5ii? This wud be a big plus for me
I think it should. No reason not too.
I'm finally ready to upgrade my 5D4. Considering an announcement might not be too far off, I think I'd be doing myself a disservice by buying an R6ii or Z6iii now and potentially missing out on new tech in an R6iii. I've got the "new camera" bug so hoping we hear something official soon! I'm excited to get into a new body with the latest video specs and autofocus systems.
I went from then 5D4 to R62. Believe me you are not going to missing out on anything by buying the R62 now. The 5D4 is a great camera but hold a candle to the R62, which is hands down the best dollar for dollar value in Canon’s entire lineup
Check out this memory card from B&H, I already ordered this for my pending EOS R1...Transcend 1TB CFexpress 900 Type B Memory Card for $189.99. I already asked B&H if these will be compatible with the R1 and they said yes...PCIe 4.0 x2 bus to provide maximum read speeds of 3500 MB/s and maximum write speeds of 2800 MB/s.
All Type B cards are compatible. You can even use gen 4, just won't benefit from gen 4 speeds. You can even use slower cards, but won't get full benefit. Watch out for sustained write speed, not top speed. You want cards that can keep a high write speed regardless of the environment or how full the card is ;)
I’ve always figured the 6 series models (6D and R6) to be aimed at the portrait/wedding shooters, so the high frame rates always seem unnecessary. Especially for “strobists.”
There are some that would use it for wildlife Scott.
Hi Simon, thanks for setting the rumors records straight !
It's indeed a clear red flag when a stacked (hence faster) sensor would result in a lower fps compared to the predecessor.
There are usually some red flags when the information is made up ;). The R5 II specs on November 22, 2022 had five of them, and the R1 30mp specs also had red flags ;)
It would be nice if they beefed up the megapixels from 24 to atleast 30 mp like they did with the 90D.., then they would have a clear winner
Releasing the R with 30 was a mistake. Ever since people feel let down by 24mp. I still think 26-30 is a goos range, but shot with 24 for many years without it being an issue.
I just hope that Canon either remedies their issue with the low supply of their P batteries, or allow full (or mostly full) functionality with the NH battery. I have a handful of the NH batteries for my R7, and I'd like to run both in conjunction. Or I go with the R6ii instead.
I can't think of a good reason why they don't. It worked in the MK1, it should work in the MK2 unless they tweeted the videos modes giving making them better somehow.
I would have bought the R6ii or original R6 if it had the R5 EVF and CFB. 45mp for weddings is ridiculous.
One thing to keep in mind far more wedding photographers buy the R6MKI & R6MK2 than either the R5 or R5MKII. Canon are acutely aware of this that’s partially why the R6 MKII came out so quickly and had better autofocus than the R5 after their feedback.
The camera to be worthwhile to these photographers needs to have the same level of AF as the R5MKII again the original R6 had the same AF as the R5.
There is no real advantage have a stacked sensor for weddings but 30mp like the original R had would be.
Clog.2 would be an advantage but knowing Canon they will limit this to the R5MKII. As to slots I can see the pluses and minuses. If you also have an R5. / R5MK2 then CFast is not an issue if you don’t then SD cards are still fine unless your biased to video.
Good points. This space s going to heat up with the Z6 III, R6 III and A75. They could limit the R6 III CL3, but CL2 could be left for the R52
informative news thanks Simon.
I’d love one of these fast chips in my 5D Mark IV.
It would make your head spin. The AF has changed a lot since the 5d4 came out.
3.2 inch monitor and able to save more picture styles,crop button option on video
Still waiting a decent evf resolution.
If Canon stays with the power switch where it is now on R6II I won't upgrade. Minor deal for some but for me it's been a pain in the butt. On the R6 and my other Canon's I pick up the camera and my left thumb flips on the power w/o thinking (muscle memory). Now I have to pick up the camera and look down at the camera to find it and get my big finger in there to turn it on. Slow, possible missed shots.
its a big difference but i have no money because of the r6ii
Canon R6 Mark III I hope at last will be switching from outdated, decades old front-lit to BSI-CMOS sensors, if not I'm going back to Sony. At this point mirrorless camera makers should have been experimenting with much more efficient and sensitive SPAD, quantum dot and graphene enhanced CMOS sensors. Graphene sensors are x1000 more sensitive than current ones and can detect even deep thermal infrared spectrum so just imagine enormous possibilities.
Still waiting for a 35mp stack sensor with eye tracking 30 fps on stills
Surely they could’ve put full frame 6K instead of super 35 😢
I believe it does both. 6K60 full frame; 60K30 super 35.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker praying 🙏🏾 as I’d swap my r5 mk2 for it if they give us clog 2.
when we will ever go away from 24MP sensors?
Why would we? it's a good resolution for many. Not everyone needs 45+ mp.
When you go to the r5. It’s right there for you🤷🏾♂️
What? Nobody wrote they're first? 😂
OK, we get it, you were first 🙂!
@@mikejhennessy509 😂😂😂
You mind of did, but with more style ;)
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WHY OH WHY is Canon spending so much R&D time on the R6????? The R6M1 is just fine (mine converted to IR by Lifepixel)!
It's a mid market camera sdctor hugely important, they need Z6 III.
People are expecting an update every 2 years or so, I presume they track sales and selling price numbers likely fall off after certain time.
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Z6iii offers the most value for money today 🤪
Z6 III is best in class, but value for the money depends on what capabilities one needs.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker Yes that's true. But for most of the shooters who shoot weddings, fashion, portraits, interior, architecture, events and moderate sports, R6II is enough albeit little higher MP would be better. Except for the situations where high speed is needed.
Thanks for your thoughts, Simon. I'll wait until the Canon EOS 6 III is released. I am unlikely to buy this camera. I am holding out for the R7 II which will probably take another a few years before it's released. Re the stacked sensor hype, this has taken over from dynamic range hype. I believe they're sticking to SD cards because they are much cheaper than the CFExpress type B cards.
V90 sd cards are more expensive than CF express B cards.
It will be a solid update over the R6 II, which is where it will be aimed at. I wonder how much Canon is taking note of the Z6 III. Nikon put a good effort in the that camera.
I just wish they'd finally put in a CFexpress Type B card slot.
Simon I sent you an email
I'll check it on my first break ;)
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker thank you
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Not the way I count...
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker someine had to said, i was the chosen one 😂