If it still has ibis wobble I will loose all hope that canon will ever fix it. The day they do fix it is the day I'll buy another canon. I dont need cfexpress for 40fps with stills and 8k video. Just give me 4k 60fps and 4k 120fps that looks better than my phone and doesnt make me womit.
As a former owner of the R6 and now an owner of the R6 MKII predominately shooting stills I would not upgrade to the R6 MKIII if it remains at 24MP. The original R that kicked off the R system was 30MP and it would need to go to that for me to change two SD card slots are not the issue, neither is the AF or the FPS of the R6 MKII. The video is also completely fine and for anything better I use the R5 which I will upgrade to the R5 MKII once batteries become more available. Now Canon where are the other fixed prime f1.4L lenses?
The most annoying thing camera manufactures can do, is add two different types of memory card slots. Just put dual UHSII or Dual CFExpress. Or do Sony's fancy two of either or.
R6M2 was perfect please give me a better sensor and the new AF and keep the price the same. Maybe give it the fan from the R5. please make it soon Im at 280000 shutter actuations.
I got the R6 and R6ii, can't wait for the R6iii. I got G.A.S you said? May be. But the only thing, and I meant ONE thing i want on the R6iii is that the on off switch on the same side as the R6ii.
It depends on what one shoots. 20-24 is the sweet spot for many. 30-32 for others. Others want 100mp, 45 or 61. But had they kept the R6 line to 30 mp, I think that would have made a lot of people happy.
Is it sooo much to ask for an updated 30-36mp sensor body? Why 24? Give me an R with faster frame rate, better video, and a joystick/wheel combo and I'll be a happy boy.
I've been hoping for this as well for more consistency across their models. Also shouldn't be forced to go to 45mp just for a top screen we had on every prosumer DSLR and up
I am honestly thinking of selling my r5 and RF 200-800 to get a nikon Z8 or used z9 with the nikon 180-600 lens because of the speed of the lens as well as price point. Canon is getting too expensive now. looking for pre capture as well as the image stabelization Nikon Offers at the price they do.
I've seen videos of people already returning their R5ii's because of the wobble. Thhis camera also needs an improvement in iso/noise performance and better AF. And zero overheating.
It was there in the Mark 1. I just avoid shooting under 35mm with IBIS on, IBIS off for less than 35mm. There needs to be a way to turn IBIS on or off with a button customization.
@@OrdinaryFilmmakeron the R5C you can pause the electronic stabilization with a custom button. But locking the IBIS mid shot would have to create quite the jarring frame. Honestly I’ve been shooting with the R5C with the 28-70 and no stabilization at all. It’s pretty stable with a side handle and top handle. Plus stabilizing in post is much better without any stabilization (IBIS or electronic) because it doesn’t have to correct for the unnatural movements introduced by the sensor or electronics.
I’m far too invested to leave Canon but my god I will not spend another dollar with them until they have an FX3 competitor. I genuinely cannot fathom a reason they wouldn’t have devoted 95% of their R&D budget towards matching Sony in this regard. R5 lowlight is embarrassing compared to the fx3 and even the a7iv. Before someone say anything, NO, the C70 and C80 are not competition for the fx3. They are MUCH larger and not suited for the same use cases as a mirrorless sized camera.
I've registered for ProFusion, I went last year and it was fun for what little time I was there for (work texted me with "hey, you got online training to do" while I was only there for a little over an hour). If the R6iii or R7ii absolutely requires that new LPE6N battery, I may not jump on, and just grab me an R6ii to compliment my R7.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker Last year, I walked the floor gear gawking. I scoped out the Canon and Sigma booth, asking for any hints of 3rd party lens support. Lexar gave me a couple of 64gb microSDs. I wanted to manhandle the Sony A9iii because it was just released, but that lineup was huge. I originally wanted to stay to see a couple of presenters, Anthony Gugliotta tipped me off to this event and was a Canon presenter last year. Looks like Gerrald Undone is there this year for Sony.
Hi! In my opinion, I don't think that the R6 ii needs to be refreshed right now. For stills it is a very good camera, actually better in FPS and DR than the Z6 iii. But the Z6 iii is better than the R6 ii when it comes to vídeo, but not that much better that it justifies refreshing the R6, IMHO. So, I don't think we'll be seeing a refresh of the R6 this or the following year. Rumors were wild also with the R5 ii being released soon after the Z8 and a7R5 came out, and Canon didn't do that, that's why I don't think it will happen. Anyway, let's see what happens! All best
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerI think they dumbed down the Z6 iii due to to the Z8 and now Nikon have shot themselves in the foot. The difference in price between the new camera and Z8 is slight…why would you buy it?
I’m rocking two R6MK2’s, and I love them. For me for what I shoot I think the R6MK3 should come with a stacked sensor. If the R6Mk3 doesn’t have a stacked sensor then I see no point in getting one. I’d much rather wait some more to see if they release a R3MK2 with supposedly a stacked global shutter.
Early 2025 will be interesting with potentially the R6III and a7V announced. As someone interested in sports and general photography, I'll likely upgrade to one of the two.
Had the same focusing issue with the R5 mark II. Focusing got “lost” despite having strong subject with lot of contrast. Used manual focus and it recovered with no further issues.
I have an R6ii and the only 2 things I find they need to fix is the hdmi situation (full size, and the screen not blacking out) and the ibis wobble The only feature I find that I’d want them to add is 4K 120, but it’s already a really solid, underrated camera
It truly is underrated. I think it also has one of the sharpest and cleanest 4k60 I have ever used. I only learned to appreciate this camera more once I got the r5ii and realized how much I missed the simplicity and power of the r6ii.
You say" to stay in the game you have to play" do you mean release New cameras with minimal upgrades like the other camera companies? Don't get me wrong. I do understand what you're saying. Everyone would like to see more cameras released by Lumix. But honestly speaking a lot of the camera brands, especially Sony are releasing cameras just to release them. Nothing really big happening with these releases. The S1H II Will be a game changer guaranteed
Considering where it sits in the lineup, I would think they would stay with the completely usable 24 mp. Hard to say on the cf express. I tend to think it wouldn’t as so many photographers are still heavily invested in sd cards, particularly photographers doing volume work like school pictures and school sports teams. But I guess one of each is certainly possible.
It will be a CFexpress Type B. Canon won't go Type A and Type C is just way too big. The other slot will be v90, V60 and V30 compatible SD card. Just like we see in the R3 and R5.
The inflation-adjusted price of the Canon EOS R5, released in 2020 at $3,899, would be approximately $4,474 in today's dollars (September 2024). This is with a very conservative inflation rate, which was probably actually much higher.
Hi Simon, sounds good for the R6iii .. shapes up to be a gripless R3. R6iii getting "some variant" of digic accelerator bodes well for the R7ii later next year .. Because the beloved CFxB card is an efficient source of overheating, I'm pretty sure that's why the R6ii didn't get one yet. Canon first wanted to resolve this topic for the R5ii. Do note CR mentions this time CFe .. they don't explicitly specify type B .. which leaves the door open for a CFxA. Canon starting to use CFxA would surprise me big time, but you said a Sony competitor would start using CFxA, right ? For a smaller sensor this might be fast enough and produce less heat .. but many will dislike it 🙈
I had the same issue with the R5M2 with the RF 24-105 f/2.8 Z lens in that it stopped auto focusing a few weekends back photographing roller derby. After taking out the battery, it resumed working. It only happened once over the 3 days. But the previous day, the camera bricked and stopped responding 4 times where I had to take the battery out. It only happened the one day and didn’t happen the remaining days.
And yet their cameras are at the top for technology. All cams for photos have reached the top. Not much room to grow other than things like fps (12 is already plenty) and maybe megapixels (24 is enough for any size).
I wish they would go with the CF Express Type A cards like Sony so I can get the new features but still dual record to the cheaper SD cards. I hate that most of canons cameras have 2 different cards which makes it more expensive to own. Also 24 mp is plenty and keeps the low light capabilities best in class i love my R6 Mark II
Once again Canon is playing catch up to Nikon, about a year later than Nikon, Canon used to be innovators but now they are also rans, I've shot with Canon for well over 30 years but my time is coming to an end now, a switch to Nikon or Sony looks inevitable for me
LOL! Nobody is ever playing catch up to Nikon. LOL. Nikon has been behind the game for years now, always in 3rd place. Their autofocus is still well behind Canon and Sony.
@@77dris that's because Nikon went heavy into the high end Market. I'd imagine in that segment the Z9 and Z8 are top sellers alongside Sony and Canon. The mid-range market however is definitely majority Canon and Sony with Nikon playing catchup. The Z6iii was a big swing in that direction.
I had the R6 soon as it was available. Same with the R6 mk2 and i will pre order the mk 3. Love these cameras.
Hoping for a CFB card slot, internal 6K raw and tons of enhancements
Already R6III. I waited for the R6I for a long time, but got tired of waiting and bought an a7III in 2018. So Canon was too late for me.
What an amazing story bruh.
If it still has ibis wobble I will loose all hope that canon will ever fix it. The day they do fix it is the day I'll buy another canon. I dont need cfexpress for 40fps with stills and 8k video. Just give me 4k 60fps and 4k 120fps that looks better than my phone and doesnt make me womit.
It still has it. Not at all gone and it is noticeable.
I am horrified by the thought of 24 megapickles mentinoned at 1:38. That's a ton of pickles!
Canon is determined to have at least a dozen body choices all with 24mp 😂
@@noctwice😂😂😂
Simon intentionally says megapickles. It’s an ongoing joke.
As a former owner of the R6 and now an owner of the R6 MKII predominately shooting stills I would not upgrade to the R6 MKIII if it remains at 24MP. The original R that kicked off the R system was 30MP and it would need to go to that for me to change two SD card slots are not the issue, neither is the AF or the FPS of the R6 MKII. The video is also completely fine and for anything better I use the R5 which I will upgrade to the R5 MKII once batteries become more available.
Now Canon where are the other fixed prime f1.4L lenses?
Two identical card slots is a good selling point, IMHO. The change is a significant mistake, IMHO. Photographers do not really need it.
Simon, do you think Clog2 will be added to R6m3
Is it worth buying R5c now or should I wait for R6m3?
The most annoying thing camera manufactures can do, is add two different types of memory card slots. Just put dual UHSII or Dual CFExpress. Or do Sony's fancy two of either or.
R6M2 was perfect please give me a better sensor and the new AF and keep the price the same. Maybe give it the fan from the R5. please make it soon Im at 280000 shutter actuations.
I got the R6 and R6ii, can't wait for the R6iii. I got G.A.S you said? May be. But the only thing, and I meant ONE thing i want on the R6iii is that the on off switch on the same side as the R6ii.
R6-III coming in Q3 2024! R6-III coming in Q1 2025! R6-III coming in Q3 2025! 😂
i always wondered why. the canon R came out with 30 MP years ago and, now they have been stuck on 24 MP on 3 versions!
Yeah...
So stupid 30-35 MP would be perfect.
It depends on what one shoots. 20-24 is the sweet spot for many. 30-32 for others. Others want 100mp, 45 or 61. But had they kept the R6 line to 30 mp, I think that would have made a lot of people happy.
Is it sooo much to ask for an updated 30-36mp sensor body? Why 24? Give me an R with faster frame rate, better video, and a joystick/wheel combo and I'll be a happy boy.
I agree. 24mp is not bad but 30-36mp is much better.
I was really hoping they would add the mode LCD screen at the top😕
We don't know the full specs just yet. Hopefully that gets flushed out soon.
I've been hoping for this as well for more consistency across their models. Also shouldn't be forced to go to 45mp just for a top screen we had on every prosumer DSLR and up
@@bentonbrightwell8953 yup
I would like the all new Canon R6III, to have no less than 26 or 28 megapixel of resolution with improved operating speed.
informative news thanks Simon.
I think they R63 will get 6K internal raw video hence the upgrade to the EF express type B card.
I am honestly thinking of selling my r5 and RF 200-800 to get a nikon Z8 or used z9 with the nikon 180-600 lens because of the speed of the lens as well as price point. Canon is getting too expensive now. looking for pre capture as well as the image stabelization Nikon Offers at the price they do.
I've seen videos of people already returning their R5ii's because of the wobble. Thhis camera also needs an improvement in iso/noise performance and better AF. And zero overheating.
It was there in the Mark 1. I just avoid shooting under 35mm with IBIS on, IBIS off for less than 35mm. There needs to be a way to turn IBIS on or off with a button customization.
@@OrdinaryFilmmakeron the R5C you can pause the electronic stabilization with a custom button. But locking the IBIS mid shot would have to create quite the jarring frame.
Honestly I’ve been shooting with the R5C with the 28-70 and no stabilization at all. It’s pretty stable with a side handle and top handle.
Plus stabilizing in post is much better without any stabilization (IBIS or electronic) because it doesn’t have to correct for the unnatural movements introduced by the sensor or electronics.
I’m far too invested to leave Canon but my god I will not spend another dollar with them until they have an FX3 competitor. I genuinely cannot fathom a reason they wouldn’t have devoted 95% of their R&D budget towards matching Sony in this regard. R5 lowlight is embarrassing compared to the fx3 and even the a7iv. Before someone say anything, NO, the C70 and C80 are not competition for the fx3. They are MUCH larger and not suited for the same use cases as a mirrorless sized camera.
I've registered for ProFusion, I went last year and it was fun for what little time I was there for (work texted me with "hey, you got online training to do" while I was only there for a little over an hour).
If the R6iii or R7ii absolutely requires that new LPE6N battery, I may not jump on, and just grab me an R6ii to compliment my R7.
I plan to network and just have a look around. A nice day off from one job to the job I like.
@OrdinaryFilmmaker
Last year, I walked the floor gear gawking. I scoped out the Canon and Sigma booth, asking for any hints of 3rd party lens support. Lexar gave me a couple of 64gb microSDs. I wanted to manhandle the Sony A9iii because it was just released, but that lineup was huge. I originally wanted to stay to see a couple of presenters, Anthony Gugliotta tipped me off to this event and was a Canon presenter last year. Looks like Gerrald Undone is there this year for Sony.
Sounds like a lot of fun. I'll be taking the train downtown to be there for open. Gerald gave me some good tax advise last year before I incorporated.
Hi!
In my opinion, I don't think that the R6 ii needs to be refreshed right now. For stills it is a very good camera, actually better in FPS and DR than the Z6 iii. But the Z6 iii is better than the R6 ii when it comes to vídeo, but not that much better that it justifies refreshing the R6, IMHO. So, I don't think we'll be seeing a refresh of the R6 this or the following year. Rumors were wild also with the R5 ii being released soon after the Z8 and a7R5 came out, and Canon didn't do that, that's why I don't think it will happen.
Anyway, let's see what happens!
All best
A lot of people feel it is too early, but the Z6 III does create some urgency for Canon.
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerI think they dumbed down the Z6 iii due to to the Z8 and now Nikon have shot themselves in the foot. The difference in price between the new camera and Z8 is slight…why would you buy it?
I’m rocking two R6MK2’s, and I love them. For me for what I shoot I think the R6MK3 should come with a stacked sensor. If the R6Mk3 doesn’t have a stacked sensor then I see no point in getting one. I’d much rather wait some more to see if they release a R3MK2 with supposedly a stacked global shutter.
Canon is THE 24MP camera company! Of COURSE the R6iii is 24MP! How dare you imply that anyone could want or need more than 24MP!
Early 2025 will be interesting with potentially the R6III and a7V announced. As someone interested in sports and general photography, I'll likely upgrade to one of the two.
Thanks for the update I believe I’ll be okay for a few years too come having the Canon EOS R and R6MKii Team Canon! let’s go
I just got the r6 markii...
And you got it at a good price.
Still a good camera if you’re not shooting small birds in flight
It is a great camera, enjoy!
And it’s still a great camera. I still shoot with the original R6. And the 6D and 5D classic. All nice cameras, in my opinion.
They'll place R3 sensor and stick with ipb recording
Canon really need to update their r5ii firmware to enable 4k60 oversampling.
I can see that as a feature enhancement. No technical reason why it can't happen.
@@OrdinaryFilmmakerhow do we know that?
Had the same focusing issue with the R5 mark II. Focusing got “lost” despite having strong subject with lot of contrast. Used manual focus and it recovered with no further issues.
I hope 32 Megapickels!
;)
This is ridiculous are they trying to make a cheaper R1 with improved features again?
Hoping it’s not got the third party battery limitation like the r5ii
Todos esperando la r6 mrk III y yo todavía tomando fotos con mi canon t4i 😂😂
I have an R6ii and the only 2 things I find they need to fix is the hdmi situation (full size, and the screen not blacking out) and the ibis wobble
The only feature I find that I’d want them to add is 4K 120, but it’s already a really solid, underrated camera
It truly is underrated. I think it also has one of the sharpest and cleanest 4k60 I have ever used. I only learned to appreciate this camera more once I got the r5ii and realized how much I missed the simplicity and power of the r6ii.
And clog2
@@eightfoldstories-weddingfi8022 oh yes! Can’t believe I forgot that. So two features and two fixes for me
so what is good about the R6 III against the R6 II??? WTF
You say" to stay in the game you have to play" do you mean release New cameras with minimal upgrades like the other camera companies? Don't get me wrong. I do understand what you're saying. Everyone would like to see more cameras released by Lumix. But honestly speaking a lot of the camera brands, especially Sony are releasing cameras just to release them. Nothing really big happening with these releases. The S1H II Will be a game changer guaranteed
For a company with 3.6% marketshare, they can't have their customers wait 6-7 years for a refresh in a marketplace that is updating every 2-4 years...
I am waiting for the flagship R7 Mark 2 with a battery grip.
Flagship R7? 😂😂😂
@@christophercarlimages9003Easy to guess he meant of the APSC line
24 megapickels?
the r6 iii is the ghost r3 ii?
Considering where it sits in the lineup, I would think they would stay with the completely usable 24 mp. Hard to say on the cf express. I tend to think it wouldn’t as so many photographers are still heavily invested in sd cards, particularly photographers doing volume work like school pictures and school sports teams. But I guess one of each is certainly possible.
I still think 20/24 mp is a good resolution. There is a huge market that doesn't need to crop in, that doesn't want large file sizes.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker yep
Perfect upgrade, cant eait
"megapickles" ? lol
🤘
You dont sound well 😥
Question Simon, are they CF Express B to SD Card adapters? Just in case I need the option.
It will be a CFexpress Type B. Canon won't go Type A and Type C is just way too big. The other slot will be v90, V60 and V30 compatible SD card. Just like we see in the R3 and R5.
@@OrdinaryFilmmaker so there's not an adapter that you can put an sd card in and use the CF Express port?
Hi Simon
What about All-i, Clog2? Thanks
We can now do 8K Intra ;)
R6 II isn't really that old, how about a decent software update instead
The inflation-adjusted price of the Canon EOS R5, released in 2020 at $3,899, would be approximately $4,474 in today's dollars (September 2024). This is with a very conservative inflation rate, which was probably actually much higher.
Canon PLEASE weather seal this R6 at the same rating as the r5…the Nikon z6 is weather sealed very well and the r6 should be as well.
Hi Simon, sounds good for the R6iii .. shapes up to be a gripless R3. R6iii getting "some variant" of digic accelerator bodes well for the R7ii later next year ..
Because the beloved CFxB card is an efficient source of overheating, I'm pretty sure that's why the R6ii didn't get one yet. Canon first wanted to resolve this topic for the R5ii.
Do note CR mentions this time CFe .. they don't explicitly specify type B .. which leaves the door open for a CFxA.
Canon starting to use CFxA would surprise me big time, but you said a Sony competitor would start using CFxA, right ?
For a smaller sensor this might be fast enough and produce less heat .. but many will dislike it 🙈
I had the same issue with the R5M2 with the RF 24-105 f/2.8 Z lens in that it stopped auto focusing a few weekends back photographing roller derby. After taking out the battery, it resumed working. It only happened once over the 3 days. But the previous day, the camera bricked and stopped responding 4 times where I had to take the battery out. It only happened the one day and didn’t happen the remaining days.
Shaking my head... But thank you for beta testing the camera i will be buying in 2 years.
Mega Pickles
As you can see from the latest models, Canon has unfortunately reached a wall and has nothing to say.
And yet their cameras are at the top for technology. All cams for photos have reached the top. Not much room to grow other than things like fps (12 is already plenty) and maybe megapixels (24 is enough for any size).
@@77dris By the top of technology, do you mean their ridiculous, sweaty flagship R1 or the image quality-regressing R5 II? 😂 Look at other flagships.
@@virus4188don't confuse fanboys with facts 😂
24mp why would i even bother to buy? you can already get a used sony a7iii for a fraction of the canon price, for the same mp.
Yeah because the only important factor to any camera purchase is the mp. If thats the case get an a7r at 36mp
I wish they would go with the CF Express Type A cards like Sony so I can get the new features but still dual record to the cheaper SD cards. I hate that most of canons cameras have 2 different cards which makes it more expensive to own. Also 24 mp is plenty and keeps the low light capabilities best in class i love my R6 Mark II
Cfexpress type b cards are cheaper than v90 sd cards.
Once again Canon is playing catch up to Nikon, about a year later than Nikon, Canon used to be innovators but now they are also rans, I've shot with Canon for well over 30 years but my time is coming to an end now, a switch to Nikon or Sony looks inevitable for me
It does seem at least to me overall that Cannon is more reactive than proactive. Always catching up instead of forging ahead..
LOL! Nobody is ever playing catch up to Nikon. LOL. Nikon has been behind the game for years now, always in 3rd place. Their autofocus is still well behind Canon and Sony.
The sales numbers tell otherwise with Nikon being third.
@@77dris that's because Nikon went heavy into the high end Market. I'd imagine in that segment the Z9 and Z8 are top sellers alongside Sony and Canon.
The mid-range market however is definitely majority Canon and Sony with Nikon playing catchup. The Z6iii was a big swing in that direction.
1:35 Mega Pickles huh? That's gotta be a huge camera to hold 24 of them.