Funny thing...no her body isn't. Just look at old beach babe photos from the 70s and 80s in, ironically enough, California and you'll probably spot a few similarities.
Her body is not unrealistic in the slightest. You are so wrong! Have you ever been to a beach in Australia 🇦🇺. Those body's are all over the place here, even in today's "body, (fat), positively age!
THANK YOU! now the problem is rouge isnt bumpy enuff? and im a maga rightwing mf...it hasnt even come out..addicted to content creation is the problem. enjoy shxt for once. and that goes for ALL the " nerd " channels talking shxt.
@@therealemperorpalpatineYou do realize they’re complaining that she’s been changed. Bumpy enough means she doesn’t have enough fat rolls for the activists that shame these characters. The “where her organs!” crowd. As someone that IS shaped similar to the original Rogue, we do indeed exist and I’m sick of being told MY body is harmful to others. Edit: You did not try “it hasn’t even come out yet”. That’s as stupid as “you have to watch all of it before you can say it’s bad” crap. I don’t need to wait for it to come out to see how they’ve significantly changed the characters. Particularly the female characters. It’s literally in the trailer shown in this video.
7th Heaven. 2 lesbian ministers raising black queer children. One of the lesbians has to be whatever bipoc stands for bisexual black person? The other has to be a double mastectomy type.
Nostalgia isn't the problem. NONE of these things carried a shred of nostalgia. It is the OPPOSITE. It is twisting the past until we don't recognize it.
Yes, a rewriting of history. That's what these social engineers want, so that we no longer have a history to guide us which allows them to push whatever psychotic agenda they want.
Rumor is they're planning a live-action movie directed by Kenneth Branagh. It could be anywhere from decent to God-awful, depending on whether we're getting the Branagh who directed _Thor_ or the one who directed _Artemis Fowl._
Of course. They no longer have any ability to create anything original or worthwhile, and haven’t for over a decade. So they take and appropriate the hard work of others and end up destroying it.
IDW is the same. Just look what they turned my beloved Transformers into. 😂 It's like a cancer. If you don't stop it in the beginning, it will spread out and infect the whole company. If you look at older Disney stuff you'll notice it here and there. Then around 2014-2016 it became whole scenes or themes. Nowadays it's their focal point of everything that they make.
The X-Men were not created with racial/gay/trans agenda in mind. Stan Lee used 'mutants' because he realized that it would be too difficult to create reasons on how each character got their power. It wasn't until later that other writers used it as a vehicle to talk about other issues.
Exactly. And Magneto believes he is of a master race. Humans fear mutants because eof their super powers. I'm not sure why people equate LGBT or minority status with super power. There were storylines that touched on discrimination, but that wasn't the whole reason they were created
I also would like an explanation. The 90's represented my middle school, high school, and undergrad years. Nothing happened during that time that people today couldn't handle. If anything, society was a bit more cohesive since we didn't have people who evidently thought the Friends of Humanity have a point like we see today.
Episodes of childrens shows are being completely removed from TV that I watched as a child, including the Tom and Jerry episodes with the black house maid. Lmao. People today are fragile minded.
@LibertarianGalt that's not fragile people, pal. That's companies making the decision based on money. If you still want to watch those old cartoons, they are readily available via DVD or online.
@@sogoma7797 It's nothing to do with money since they're all losing money. Hollyweird is now actually more racist than it was 30 years ago but a man in a dress used to be a comedy gag, now it's a political, social and ideologcal statement. People are fragile now more than ever. Plenty of films couldn't be made now that were made then without completely annihilating the premise of it. Even Frankie Boyle has gone fragile.
Morph is non binary because he could change his appearance from male to female. Even i understood that when the show was showing in prime time back in the early 90s. Unfortunately alot of weirdos with agendas have hijacked the word non binary to fit their narrative. Non-binary don't have anything to do with being gay in its original contexts. Morph was never written to be see or act as someone who is trans or gay. He was just a shape shifter.
Honestly this change makes the most sense to me, historically marvels shape shifters tend to have a rather unfixed sense of identity ya know? Seeing as they transform themselves into other people/mutants/metas rather often.
The redesigns not only de feminize Rogue but it also de stylizes her and all the other characters. The exaggerated features are done so to make them pop out on screen. This is not exclusive to the female characters either.. The males are equally stylized in a way that points out their masculinity and strength. It makes them look like more than just average people which is the whole point. These activists don’t know nothing about the finer details. THE MESSAGE is all that matters.. 🤦♂️
Except isn't the whole point of X-Men that they are just average everyday people and come from all walks of life but they just so happen to have super powers?
Yep, the whole point of animation as an art form that is just as legitemate as live action, is that it allows you to communicate things visually that you can't with live action. If you want to communicate X-Men cartoon Rogue visually in live action, and convey her sexuality the same way, you would have to put her in lingerie, and have her strutt around sexually in the middle of high stakes situation. Which just would not work in live action.That would look far more "cartoony" than cartoon Rogue, and break the suspension of disbelief. The stylization in the cartoon is not just vital for its own sake, it's a form of visual story telling and characterization. I know that lefties will just strawman us into saying that we just want to masturbate to cartoon character (which is rich coming from them). But a hypersexually depicted Rogue does far more to hammer home how trapped she is by her powers than some plain Jane.
I wasn’t aware there’s a real life alien that’s taken over control of a psychic mutant trying to destroy the world. Every show had PSAs attached to them. That didn’t mean GI Joe was really about brushing my teeth and having good hygiene.
The X-Men are the same. It's you that have changed. In the 90's, you would have been one of the backers of the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters. Now you'd be out there waiving an FoH sign.
Nor do they hire people who have even glanced at the work they are supposed to be adapting. Never forget Disney, and all the companies underneath them look for "talent" that has had no exposure to the material they are to be writing for.
Episode 1: Morph teaches us about preferred pronouns Episode 2: The Blob teaches us about fat acceptance Episode 3: Storm and Jubilee defeat a sentinel and yell “Diversity is Our Strength!”
Episode 3 they don't use force to defeat the sentinel they just annoy it until it self destructs by calling it a fascist over and over while lecturing about feminist/queen theory
This reminds me of the "Batman '89" comic that was supposed to be a sequel to Batman Returns and features a lot of talk about Critical Race Theory concepts that were not in the common parlance in the early '90s.
They made a far bigger deal about Harvey Dent being black (because he was still being drawn to look like Billy Dee Williams) than the Tim Burton movie did. This despite the Burton movie being made 35 years ago, and being set in a city so disgustingly corrupt that a known mobster and serial killer can personally carry out a hit in broad daylight.
At least the adventures continues (a BTAS continuation) run was ok-ish. I loved how the ventriloquist had a redemption ark. Would've made a great episode.
The art was nice...and that's about it. I was excited to read it. Issue one and it was already channeling BLM and other woke talking point and I tapped tf out.
Eric July does a great analysis on how the "Xmen is an allegory for discrimination" arc isn't really true. Personally I always saw it as more of an analogy to teen angst, as you didn't become a mutant until your teenage years Sucks about Rogue though, my first serious cartoon crush 😂
So what's your stance on it now that it's fully been released, and it turned out to be the best damn X-Men adaptation to ever exist outside the comics? Have you changed your opinion or are you still convinced that the show is trash? Or will you go so far and admit that this shit was just meant to be rage-bait, and views were the only real goal?
X-men 97' was a well indended failure at entertainment. Imagine a guy who stays with a girl for years/decades despite not being able to touch her, and then when she finds someone she can touch she dumps him. Gambit was a hero and rogue became a zero. Absolute trash writing that makes you hope they will kill more characters before they can do more damage to their image.
Lonely alienated kids that were comic book fans sympathized with the central theme of X-Men. Regardless of whatever real life events might have inspired the authors, for the kids watching the show back then it had nothing to do with race or sexuality or whatever the people trying to hijack this want to. Plus you know, big guns, time travel, hot girls, epic fights, telenovela-esque drama. What was the whole social activism component really? like 3%? Also no matter what they claim, this show will never reach the nuance or introspection of say, that one Nightcrawler episode where Wolverine goes back to church.
The comics were layered. Yes, was it to relate to disenfranchised kids? Absolutely. But race relations were definitely and inspiration. Idk why this hyper conservative agenda wants to deny this.
@OkPe-ww5rs Son, you want me to give you evidence that is everywhere? And you know that RUclips doesn't allow for outside links. Grow up. You lost this one.
@solblackguy *SPOILERS* You mean the episode where they destroyed rogue because she spent decades with a guy who loved her despite not being able to touch her, and as soon as she has an opportunity to get with a guy she can touch, she dumps gambit. Full hoar behavior out of a once beloved character. Then to make it worse, they ruin gambit by making him fine with it, well fine but not fine. I was actually happy to see gambit die so they couldnt do any more damage to him and was wishing they had killed whor- I mean rogue. This was the most egregious incident in the 5 episodes i struggled through before completely abandoning the series, but there were numerous problems: animation that also looks like its 15fps, wasted scenes dancing? Tik tok fortnite inspired writing. Most of the episodes lack any action until the last 6 minutes. I give it a 2/10 for at least a good effort.
Stan Lee himself, in his own words stating X-Men and the connection to the Civil Rights Movement: "Then it occurred to me that instead of them just being heroes that everybody admired, what if I made other people fear and suspect and actually hate them because they were different? I loved that idea; it not only made them different, but it was a good metaphor for what was happening with the civil rights movement in the country at that time." Source: The Guardian
@eriotosama Most comic fans (even lefty ones) see Mutant Registration/Control as a bad thing, but Gun Registration/Control is seen as a good thing in lefty circles. I just find this to be hypocritical.
@@renokiller The Bill of Rights applies equally to a person's right to carry a firearm or their right to use their natural abilities as a weapon. These are inalienable rights granted to us by our creator and cannot be taken away.
I commented on the post of the trailer video on Instagram. I said the animation looked bad. Someone commented, " You realize this is not 2000, animation has changed." People like this just accept whatever is pushed to them. Quality be damned as long as it tickles those 'member berries
@@GodOfPlaguethey would hate you for that! I agree though. It’s amazing how far they’ve come. Like actually medical books and glory for non binary. It being under lgbtq has been amazing push that emos or goth never saw.
The worst part about wokies siding with magneto is that they don't care that the mutants are the privileged ones. There is no better adventage that being a one man army or even a walking nuke. No wonder apocalypse could have a cult
I think the "stuck in the past" thing isn't a huge issue, if you can acknowledge there were issues. I mean it's not a new thing, people all but worshiped old writers like Dickens or Shakespeare as if they were some kind of flawless writing gods. But it was that attachment that got us so many remakes, adaptations etc of the old material to keep it alive. Look at even things like Disney who took ancient fairy tales like Snow White or Rapunzel and adapted it in such a way that not only were they good movies, they brought the old stories back into main stream consciousness. Just because something is old doesn't mean it should be forgotten.
@@Lunatyk-S1eepwalker “only autistic people think he’s wrong” 😂😂😂 I didn’t know this guy had children defending him 😂😂 That has to be the most child like most pathetic insult I’ve heard today 😂😂😂😂
Very beginning of the 1st X-men film brought up the question of people unchecked with powers could cause harm with Jean Grey reminding people that you can't just answer the question of are mutants dangerous as they are people different from one another. Now comics just call the one questioning that bigots. This was why Xavier created the school cause he knew that the students had to be discipline 1st and foremost.
If you think about it, mutants are a big problem that government and society might want to be concerned about. You have reality-warping mutants who are a threat to life on Earth.
Disagree with your hot take on nostalgia, particularly when the 'moving on' doesn't live up to the past. And furthermore, what are culture and traditions if not nostalgic? I would say the problem is less nostalgia writ large and more people letting their nostalgia get the better of them and be weaponized against them to the point they're suckered into something just because it wears the skin of something they love from the past.
Like the USA..they hated comics so they decided to inflitrate them and destroy them from within..making them so unrecognizable that even the die hard fans have to step back and squint thier eyes to see a resemblance of something they once loved..
@@Lunatyk-S1eepwalker “only autistic people think he’s wrong” 😂😂😂 Mate at this point just stop 😂 this is honestly pathetic 🤦🏾♂️😬 Since you don’t like the series why don’t you give me various examples on why the shows bad 😂😂 Go on don’t be scared 😂😂😂
And Claremont's X-Men is the definitive version. It's THE run, the one everyone remembers. Stan's run on X--Men wasn't great and the book actually got cancelled under his pen. Stan Lee isn't responsible for all things great about Marvel and it's time you understood that. Stan made Magneto vulnerable to wooden guns.
@@cheapfinish6224 Being able to be hurt by wood makes sense since he’s magnetic and isn’t indestructible. It’s no different than using plastic guns which they do in the movies. Just because Claremont was a good writer doesn’t make them his. That’s like saying if I enjoyed someone else’s interpretation of Taming of the Shrew it no longer belongs to Shakespeare.
@@cheapfinish6224 I don't think anyone could reasonably compare Lee/Kirby to Claremont for quality. It was a good idea to take the story there, but it wasn't intended to be part of the DNA.
@@cheapfinish6224kid, I was reading comics while your mother was swallowing cum. There would be no marvel without stan lee or jack Kirby. Its time YOU understood that.
9:38 Imagine if this scene aired today. The writers would probably either forget or just straight-up ignore that Rogue should have gotten a look at Gambit's recent memories and seen that he had just been flirted with and even touched by someone who looks exactly like her (I either haven't seen or don't remember this episode, but I'm assuming Mystique.), and somehow turn it into Gambit's fault for not getting her "continuous consent" or something like that. And then Rogue would need to simultaneously be a Strong Female Character™ and also a Victim™.
@@jameshurley776 after a while I feel like Justice League Unlimited got a bit bloated with the ever expanding cast of characters. However, one of my favorite episodes is a Justice League Unlimited: the one that focused on Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Wildcat. It was my first real introduction to the Ted Grant, and I honestly wish he had been featured more. Other than that one, though, my favorite episodes tend to be the ones with the original 7.
@@jameshurley776 I'm not familiar with kino... is this a reference to her martial arts prowess? She *is* a badass. But that's comic canon too... I do credit Justice League Unlimited for introducing me to that aspect of her, though. I hadn't started really getting into comics at the point when I had first started watching any of the various classic DC animated series, so it was the first time that I got exposed to Dinah as her own character instead of just as Ollie's love interest. Although the show did suffer from having too many characters, it was a good way to introduce its audience to a variety of different heroes from the DC Universe.
Only for women tho! The men of X-men still have jaw lines, biceps, abs, pecs galore, but only women can’t have “unhealthy” body standards, if 100 men die from steroid abuse chasing a physique oh well, but one girl gets bulimia and the entire entertainment industry must adapt.
Your final point is one of the reasons I enjoy going back to watch these older shows. They had better values. The “SJWs” of today were rightly depicted as misguided villains driven by hatred such as Magneto & in other shows like Gargoyles the character of Demona who wants to punish an entire race based on things that happened hundreds of years ago.
DC too. Look at the new Power Girl series by Leah Williams. They gave her a stupid jacket, changed her name from Karen to Paige, and she is jealous of Supergirl (Power Girl is strictly a stronger, more confident, better looking version of her from Earth-2).
It's a performance. Dudes whole channel is topical culture war b/s. Once something new comes out, they'll all forget about X-Men and complain about that. You know it's fake because they all use the same article that says Morph was a "beloved" fan favorite. You know, the Michael Bean of the show that died in the first episode. I've heard more about Morph in the last two weeks than I did in the last 20 years. Bunch of performative clown shoes.
Disney would be lucky to be considered a billion dollar corporation now, with all the fuck ups and wasted money on bad movies with no financial returns... 🤔🤫
We’re stuck in the past because that’s all we get. Nobody produces anything new, just sequels and remakes “for modern audiences” nothing new for an audience.
Clout chaser hoping to shit on this show for being "woke" but you were left with nothing ... I swear im so tired of desperate people trying to appeal to fringe political weirdos
Playing Champions or Villans and Vigillantes back in the day, (superhero role playing games) you quickly realized it was much easier to make the character a mutant than come up with a creative unique backstory. X-men was never a metaphor for racism, it just was used that way by some
Why would Gambit's power explode Wolverine' skeleton? -- once charge it only explode on impact, non? -- also Wolverine' skeleton is indestructible... non?
Adamantium is indestructible.....or at least it was before the woke-mob took over comics. They aren't big on following the established lore, so it wouldn't surprise me if they changed it. Gambit has to touch the things he wants to energize I think. So if he didn't touch the claws. The energy had to have gone through Logan's body and still be there, inside of him when he uses the claws. No?
I personally like the 90's animated series. I think they went with a different animation studio that was cheaper due to budget constraints and it showed in the episode "Graduation Day".
Since they made Morph non-binary...does that mean Morph is voiced by a non-binary? How many of the mutants are voiced by people with mutations? Need to have fair representation and all
Diversity and Comics shared a screen shot that the quote about Morph isn't from the show-runners. That quote is from a journalist writing about the show. The creators never said that about Morph. Empire Magazine did.
There's one thing I want to defend in the trailer and I can't believe I'm using X Men Origins Wolverine to do it, but that movie showed Gambit charge his staff and then smack things with it to release the energy and not damage the staff. Maybe it's from the comics, I don't know, but the trailer did not invent it. The powering up claws thing can work.
The stroke width felt off. Like it was made in Flash with no pressure sensitivity. All the outline have the same stroke width. Some closeup shots felt like it was not drawn large but zoomed in and blown up 500% which is why it feels so blurry sometimes. The animation has minimal ease-in/ease-out, spacing, framing, as well as anticipation and follow-through. Sentinels felt like they have no weight or momentum. It's like... 2024 regressed rather than improved in animation skills. Was it generated by AI or something? Their lack of understanding for the basic animation principles feels akin to AI not knowing how many fingers a hand has.
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"Rogue's body is unrealistic." You know what else is unrealistic about her? Her MUTANT POWERS!!!
Funny thing...no her body isn't. Just look at old beach babe photos from the 70s and 80s in, ironically enough, California and you'll probably spot a few similarities.
Nah, real super-powers exist and are realistic. Beautiful women, on the other hand, are a myth.
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Her body is not unrealistic in the slightest. You are so wrong! Have you ever been to a beach in Australia 🇦🇺. Those body's are all over the place here, even in today's "body, (fat), positively age!
@@marcuspitts2482 I'm being sarcastic. Hence the quotation.
How about their secret jet that can travel around the world in a couple hours and is capable of space flight?
I love how the 'body shaming' people morphed into shaming any body that's not either androgynous or capable of registering on the Richter Scale.
Spot on. Their values are disingenuous and only used to beat others into submission.
if i can't be pretty, neither can you
Jealousy projected as equality
THANK YOU! now the problem is rouge isnt bumpy enuff? and im a maga rightwing mf...it hasnt even come out..addicted to content creation is the problem. enjoy shxt for once. and that goes for ALL the " nerd " channels talking shxt.
@@therealemperorpalpatineYou do realize they’re complaining that she’s been changed. Bumpy enough means she doesn’t have enough fat rolls for the activists that shame these characters. The “where her organs!” crowd. As someone that IS shaped similar to the original Rogue, we do indeed exist and I’m sick of being told MY body is harmful to others.
Edit: You did not try “it hasn’t even come out yet”. That’s as stupid as “you have to watch all of it before you can say it’s bad” crap. I don’t need to wait for it to come out to see how they’ve significantly changed the characters. Particularly the female characters. It’s literally in the trailer shown in this video.
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.” The quote is attributed to JRR Tolkien.
Melkor was jealous of Eru and the Flame Imperishable. It's why he made mockeries out of creation. It's why he bent the elves into orcs.
There is nothing evil about diversity and inclusivity. There is, however, everything evil about you
this been on many comment sections, I myself guilty of posting it more than thrice.
Nah, that was Katt Williams that said that on Club Shay Shay
We know, it was spammed everywhere when the Amazon show came out, sheesh.
I doubt they would bring back Nightcrawler as a devout Christian
Only if they make him a bad guy.
As Doomcock said
He's gonna be the bestest evar!!!!
They'll make him a devil worshipper or democrat.
Pretty sure he was Russian Orthodox
@@RezaQin That is a Christian religion
What can we ruin next
-Disney
US soft power built with spilt blood of our ancestors.. ruined by blackmailed ceos kowtowing to Cjina
7th Heaven. 2 lesbian ministers raising black queer children. One of the lesbians has to be whatever bipoc stands for bisexual black person? The other has to be a double mastectomy type.
Fuck your childhood
-Disney
I see we have begun the reactionaries-discover-X-Men arc.
They’ve announced an all female black lead pirates of the Caribbean. So that
Im surprised they didn't name this X-Them
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You are odd ending the “Thems” out there lol, gotta call the group X-Humanoid People 🤣🤣🤣🤣
People would’ve lost their mind
Nostalgia isn't the problem. NONE of these things carried a shred of nostalgia. It is the OPPOSITE. It is twisting the past until we don't recognize it.
Yes, a rewriting of history. That's what these social engineers want, so that we no longer have a history to guide us which allows them to push whatever psychotic agenda they want.
That Robocop Rouge City was nothing but nostalgia bait. It was great. Way better than I could have imagined.
At this point, I'm glad that they're not touching Gargoyles
They strip mine all their IPs, you know they’ll bring it back at some point.
“Thanks for the idea.” -Hollywood
You said it now they will do it
Rumor is they're planning a live-action movie directed by Kenneth Branagh. It could be anywhere from decent to God-awful, depending on whether we're getting the Branagh who directed _Thor_ or the one who directed _Artemis Fowl._
Bah!!! You put it out there in the universe. Now it's gonna happen!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
My initial gut reaction was right when I saw that Disney was doing this. Disney cant help themselves from ruining stuff.
So true
Of course. They no longer have any ability to create anything original or worthwhile, and haven’t for over a decade. So they take and appropriate the hard work of others and end up destroying it.
IDW is the same. Just look what they turned my beloved Transformers into. 😂
It's like a cancer. If you don't stop it in the beginning, it will spread out and infect the whole company.
If you look at older Disney stuff you'll notice it here and there. Then around 2014-2016 it became whole scenes or themes.
Nowadays it's their focal point of everything that they make.
The X-Men were not created with racial/gay/trans agenda in mind. Stan Lee used 'mutants' because he realized that it would be too difficult to create reasons on how each character got their power. It wasn't until later that other writers used it as a vehicle to talk about other issues.
Stan Lee gets credited with way too much. Byrne and Claremont made the X-Men what they were.
wasn't magneto literally about the holocaust?
Exactly. And Magneto believes he is of a master race. Humans fear mutants because eof their super powers. I'm not sure why people equate LGBT or minority status with super power. There were storylines that touched on discrimination, but that wasn't the whole reason they were created
@@angrybellsproutyes. And revenge against what he saw as an inferior race
@angrybellsprout how is that about racism?
People today couldn't handle the actual 90s 😂
Explain
I also would like an explanation. The 90's represented my middle school, high school, and undergrad years. Nothing happened during that time that people today couldn't handle. If anything, society was a bit more cohesive since we didn't have people who evidently thought the Friends of Humanity have a point like we see today.
Episodes of childrens shows are being completely removed from TV that I watched as a child, including the Tom and Jerry episodes with the black house maid. Lmao. People today are fragile minded.
@LibertarianGalt that's not fragile people, pal. That's companies making the decision based on money. If you still want to watch those old cartoons, they are readily available via DVD or online.
@@sogoma7797 It's nothing to do with money since they're all losing money. Hollyweird is now actually more racist than it was 30 years ago but a man in a dress used to be a comedy gag, now it's a political, social and ideologcal statement. People are fragile now more than ever. Plenty of films couldn't be made now that were made then without completely annihilating the premise of it. Even Frankie Boyle has gone fragile.
isn't making Morph (the shapeshifter) non-binary disprove the claims of non shapeshifting people who claim to be trans?
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You expect them to think logically about anything?
Morph is non binary because he could change his appearance from male to female. Even i understood that when the show was showing in prime time back in the early 90s. Unfortunately alot of weirdos with agendas have hijacked the word non binary to fit their narrative. Non-binary don't have anything to do with being gay in its original contexts. Morph was never written to be see or act as someone who is trans or gay. He was just a shape shifter.
Self inserts, these people think they should be able to imagine reality.
Honestly this change makes the most sense to me, historically marvels shape shifters tend to have a rather unfixed sense of identity ya know? Seeing as they transform themselves into other people/mutants/metas rather often.
I can't wait to watch the X-Men talk about rainbow pride, pronouns and the patriarch..... In 1997
gonna keep waiting then
How's the wait going for ya, skeeter😂😂😭😭
X men 97 deserves an apology from you bub
The redesigns not only de feminize Rogue but it also de stylizes her and all the other characters. The exaggerated features are done so to make them pop out on screen. This is not exclusive to the female characters either.. The males are equally stylized in a way that points out their masculinity and strength. It makes them look like more than just average people which is the whole point. These activists don’t know nothing about the finer details. THE MESSAGE is all that matters.. 🤦♂️
Now I'm actually very interested to see how, if he's in it, they do Strong Guy.
They're empty, unimpressive people, and it shows in all their art.
Except isn't the whole point of X-Men that they are just average everyday people and come from all walks of life but they just so happen to have super powers?
Yep, the whole point of animation as an art form that is just as legitemate as live action, is that it allows you to communicate things visually that you can't with live action. If you want to communicate X-Men cartoon Rogue visually in live action, and convey her sexuality the same way, you would have to put her in lingerie, and have her strutt around sexually in the middle of high stakes situation. Which just would not work in live action.That would look far more "cartoony" than cartoon Rogue, and break the suspension of disbelief. The stylization in the cartoon is not just vital for its own sake, it's a form of visual story telling and characterization.
I know that lefties will just strawman us into saying that we just want to masturbate to cartoon character (which is rich coming from them). But a hypersexually depicted Rogue does far more to hammer home how trapped she is by her powers than some plain Jane.
I’m glad all these shows are coming out on D+, now I can’t even accidentally watch an episode after a few drinks.
So true
X-Men TAS is a core memory for me. I will not watch this blasphemous insult to my childhood.
X-Men TAS was always like this, stop tricking yourself into thinking otherwise.
I wasn’t aware there’s a real life alien that’s taken over control of a psychic mutant trying to destroy the world. Every show had PSAs attached to them. That didn’t mean GI Joe was really about brushing my teeth and having good hygiene.
The X-Men are the same. It's you that have changed. In the 90's, you would have been one of the backers of the Xavier School for Gifted Youngsters. Now you'd be out there waiving an FoH sign.
If you're worried about something insulting your childhood, you're admitting that you never grew up.
@@TwoBears3get lost
Whenever they ruin something, I ignore it and simply rewatch the old stuff on physical media.
I HATE them more than I do the villains that stole your car
😅😅😅😅 Accurate!
😂 I can agree with
they do not hire based on meritocracy anymore, this is a direct result of that, the quality of "new" creations goes down.
Nor do they hire people who have even glanced at the work they are supposed to be adapting. Never forget Disney, and all the companies underneath them look for "talent" that has had no exposure to the material they are to be writing for.
Bingo!
Episode 1: Morph teaches us about preferred pronouns
Episode 2: The Blob teaches us about fat acceptance
Episode 3: Storm and Jubilee defeat a sentinel and yell “Diversity is Our Strength!”
Then the show gets canceled
Episode 3 they don't use force to defeat the sentinel they just annoy it until it self destructs by calling it a fascist over and over while lecturing about feminist/queen theory
@@nautdead3197 “surrender, mutant” “did you just assume my genetics?!”
Just like the original?
@@theinsurance2450 inevitably
This reminds me of the "Batman '89" comic that was supposed to be a sequel to Batman Returns and features a lot of talk about Critical Race Theory concepts that were not in the common parlance in the early '90s.
They made a far bigger deal about Harvey Dent being black (because he was still being drawn to look like Billy Dee Williams) than the Tim Burton movie did. This despite the Burton movie being made 35 years ago, and being set in a city so disgustingly corrupt that a known mobster and serial killer can personally carry out a hit in broad daylight.
At least the adventures continues (a BTAS continuation) run was ok-ish. I loved how the ventriloquist had a redemption ark. Would've made a great episode.
Exactly. I was so excited for that run and it’s basically BLM nonsense under the guise of a Batman Returns sequel. So gross.
The art was nice...and that's about it.
I was excited to read it. Issue one and it was already channeling BLM and other woke talking point and I tapped tf out.
@@1SpicyMeataball Trust me, you're not missing ANYTHING. The new run which features Madonna(?) as Harley Quinn has much more promise.
Sooooo after the release of 97
You feel pretty fucking stupid because man did they did show justice or what
Like holy shit
Been real quiet since episode 5 dropped lol
@@solblackguyfr
They DEFINITELY did the X-MEN justice.
Eric July does a great analysis on how the "Xmen is an allegory for discrimination" arc isn't really true.
Personally I always saw it as more of an analogy to teen angst, as you didn't become a mutant until your teenage years
Sucks about Rogue though, my first serious cartoon crush 😂
Your first mistake was listening to anything Eric July says
now your crush is a 12 year old boy
@@angrybellsprout lol, there may be some Freud in that 🤣
@cheapfinish6224 your mistake was listening to leftists
@@cheapfinish6224 nah bro, he's mostly on point. Do you have a specific gripe with anything?
It’s a skin suit show. Haven’t seen it but I’m gonna guess there’s a lot of THE MESSAGE.
I will be skipping
We won't miss ya
Hope you watched it. People that think like you got a lot of representation. They even referenced Jany 6th
"X-Men 97 *(Based on 2024)"*
~Brought to You by Disney~
So much sound and fury signifying nothing.
I’m an X-Men fan who watched the show back in the day and I had no idea Jubilee was supposed to be Chinese.
She's Chinese-American and from California. Unfortunately they never specified it in the show despite her backstory being kind of interesting.
So what's your stance on it now that it's fully been released, and it turned out to be the best damn X-Men adaptation to ever exist outside the comics? Have you changed your opinion or are you still convinced that the show is trash? Or will you go so far and admit that this shit was just meant to be rage-bait, and views were the only real goal?
Too bad the show is actually good. Yall are grifters hating on something before even seeing it. 🤦♂️
Free advertising at this point. Disney makes as much money off their fans as their haters thanks to these bottom feeders
X-men 97' was a well indended failure at entertainment. Imagine a guy who stays with a girl for years/decades despite not being able to touch her, and then when she finds someone she can touch she dumps him. Gambit was a hero and rogue became a zero. Absolute trash writing that makes you hope they will kill more characters before they can do more damage to their image.
This didnt age well, turns out to be a great show.
Watch the original series and tell me 97' is "great."
@@BobDole-y9m yep, also great
@@BobDole-y9mI watched it beforehand. It was good but 97 is insanely better
This aged well ☠️
Yup this show is looking fantastic let’s hope they don’t mess it up
Yup... like a tuna sandwich left in the sun for 3 days. 😄
@@stephencooper3583 you realize the show is beloved by critics and audiences
@@stephencooper3583 the show is actually quite good
Aged like milk already sat out in the sun during a Las Vegas summer.
There is someone who works at Disney that makes it their entire life goal to ruin our childhoods
What about the Morlocks in the sewers? They were the mutants who were visibly deformed.
The new X-Men series is AWESOME. The critics agree.
I think the problem is not looking backwards... It's that there is nothing new that is noteworthy and resonates with everyone anymore.
This, nothing is good enough to replace these shows.
I'm looking back wondering where the flying cars and robot butlers we were promised are
Lonely alienated kids that were comic book fans sympathized with the central theme of X-Men. Regardless of whatever real life events might have inspired the authors, for the kids watching the show back then it had nothing to do with race or sexuality or whatever the people trying to hijack this want to.
Plus you know, big guns, time travel, hot girls, epic fights, telenovela-esque drama. What was the whole social activism component really? like 3%?
Also no matter what they claim, this show will never reach the nuance or introspection of say, that one Nightcrawler episode where Wolverine goes back to church.
The comics were layered. Yes, was it to relate to disenfranchised kids? Absolutely. But race relations were definitely and inspiration. Idk why this hyper conservative agenda wants to deny this.
@OkPe-ww5rs Word of god is the source. The authors of the work have been open regarding what X-Men is about.
@OkPe-ww5rs You have the entire breadth of human knowledge at your literal fingertips and you're whining about not having the source.
@OkPe-ww5rs Son, you want me to give you evidence that is everywhere? And you know that RUclips doesn't allow for outside links. Grow up. You lost this one.
@OkPe-ww5rsdon't even argue with that mfer.
"Modern sensibilities" is an oxymoron.
Rogue went from a JLo figure to a Brie Larson
"Let the past die...kill it if you must" Glad to see Disney taking its own advice.
Had so much to say before, now where's the discussion since were a few episodes in? Its pretty quiet.
Peter Parker got bitten by a radioactive spider and became Spiderman. Shaun got his car stole and become a video making super machine. 😮
He's stuck at home
This aged well
All these grifters been quiet since episode 5 dropped
Ifs funny when they can’t shit on something they just ignore it. Having praise for a media doesn’t get as many views I guess
@solblackguy
*SPOILERS* You mean the episode where they destroyed rogue because she spent decades with a guy who loved her despite not being able to touch her, and as soon as she has an opportunity to get with a guy she can touch, she dumps gambit. Full hoar behavior out of a once beloved character. Then to make it worse, they ruin gambit by making him fine with it, well fine but not fine. I was actually happy to see gambit die so they couldnt do any more damage to him and was wishing they had killed whor- I mean rogue. This was the most egregious incident in the 5 episodes i struggled through before completely abandoning the series, but there were numerous problems: animation that also looks like its 15fps, wasted scenes dancing? Tik tok fortnite inspired writing. Most of the episodes lack any action until the last 6 minutes. I give it a 2/10 for at least a good effort.
Stan Lee himself, in his own words stating X-Men and the connection to the Civil Rights Movement: "Then it occurred to me that instead of them just being heroes that everybody admired, what if I made other people fear and suspect and actually hate them because they were different? I loved that idea; it not only made them different, but it was a good metaphor for what was happening with the civil rights movement in the country at that time." Source: The Guardian
Love how Rouge is now a 12 year old boy.
Rogue
You are right they missed an opportunity to have Elliot page voice her/him 😂😂😂😂
A board.
Vaush is that you
What about the allegory between Mutant Registration and Gun Registration? I guess it only works for lefty viewpoints huh?
Explain?
@eriotosama Most comic fans (even lefty ones) see Mutant Registration/Control as a bad thing, but Gun Registration/Control is seen as a good thing in lefty circles. I just find this to be hypocritical.
@@silvermknightit's almost like there's a difference between a person having to register an object vs. having to register as an actual person.
@@renokiller The Bill of Rights applies equally to a person's right to carry a firearm or their right to use their natural abilities as a weapon. These are inalienable rights granted to us by our creator and cannot be taken away.
I commented on the post of the trailer video on Instagram. I said the animation looked bad. Someone commented, " You realize this is not 2000, animation has changed." People like this just accept whatever is pushed to them. Quality be damned as long as it tickles those 'member berries
So they going to label Mystique "non-binary" also???
Non binary is just a trend like goth or emo. I could see messing around and making them bisexual but non binary is not a thing.
@@GodOfPlaguenon-binary has quickly become the modern "I'm a lesbian" means of rejecting guys who are trying to date them.
@@GodOfPlaguethey would hate you for that! I agree though. It’s amazing how far they’ve come. Like actually medical books and glory for non binary. It being under lgbtq has been amazing push that emos or goth never saw.
You realize mystique is married to a woman in the comics yes?
@@renokiller Lesbian/ Bisexual is not the same as non-binary.
Will this aged terribly. The show is awesome. Maybe set your politics aside and enjoy something for once guys.
"Have you tried, not, being a mutant?"
Supposedly, Sir Ian McKellen (who happens to be openly gay) rewrote that scene to make it as close to a coming out as you could get in 2003.
About as subtle as a jackhammer to the rear
The worst part about wokies siding with magneto is that they don't care that the mutants are the privileged ones. There is no better adventage that being a one man army or even a walking nuke. No wonder apocalypse could have a cult
I think the "stuck in the past" thing isn't a huge issue, if you can acknowledge there were issues. I mean it's not a new thing, people all but worshiped old writers like Dickens or Shakespeare as if they were some kind of flawless writing gods. But it was that attachment that got us so many remakes, adaptations etc of the old material to keep it alive.
Look at even things like Disney who took ancient fairy tales like Snow White or Rapunzel and adapted it in such a way that not only were they good movies, they brought the old stories back into main stream consciousness. Just because something is old doesn't mean it should be forgotten.
There's nothing wrong with something being maintained in its original condition.
Xmen is woke? Bruh Xmen has always been woke since its creation. Its the wokest comics for the right reasons
It looks like you're wrong so far... especially after Episode 5...
Only autistic people think he's wrong. And autistic people think X-Men TAS was good.
@@Lunatyk-S1eepwalker “only autistic people think he’s wrong” 😂😂😂
I didn’t know this guy had children defending him 😂😂
That has to be the most child like most pathetic insult I’ve heard today 😂😂😂😂
@Lunatyk-S1eepwalker you just contradicted yourself. Do you think xmen tas is better or 97? Ironic, that slur should apply to you
@@stonecoldattitudeera they're both bad, but 97 is worse
@@Lunatyk-S1eepwalker just say you haven't watched 97 lool you can't criticize a show you didn't watch
Yes, please more REALISM in my escapism from REALITY media 🙄
I knew you were a fellow nerd Sean.
Said in the most affectionate way. 😊
Check out his video on Superman. It’s one of his absolute best.
He used to have Mjolnir next to the skeleton in the beginning.
Very beginning of the 1st X-men film brought up the question of people unchecked with powers could cause harm with Jean Grey reminding people that you can't just answer the question of are mutants dangerous as they are people different from one another. Now comics just call the one questioning that bigots. This was why Xavier created the school cause he knew that the students had to be discipline 1st and foremost.
If you think about it, mutants are a big problem that government and society might want to be concerned about. You have reality-warping mutants who are a threat to life on Earth.
The whole "X-men is an Allegory" was a lie. It hasn't "always represented these causes."
That was marketing.
They can never take the 90s show away from us. They can only wear it's skin suit.
Bro its not nostalgia, its either good and honest or woke and garbage
Sean's cultural takes are wild sometimes.
You so said the truth right there
Yeah, it's nostalgia.
@@NickTheTowelGuy-iy3op it’s like comparing Jim lees X-men art to Kirkmans Invincible art who’s better hmmmm yeah
@@warrenweaver6664 I don't give a fuck tbh. It doesn't ruin my life like it apparently does yours.
Lol x-men 97 has just proven you wrong for being 1 of the best comic adaptation marvel has put out period
Disagree with your hot take on nostalgia, particularly when the 'moving on' doesn't live up to the past. And furthermore, what are culture and traditions if not nostalgic? I would say the problem is less nostalgia writ large and more people letting their nostalgia get the better of them and be weaponized against them to the point they're suckered into something just because it wears the skin of something they love from the past.
Like the USA..they hated comics so they decided to inflitrate them and destroy them from within..making them so unrecognizable that even the die hard fans have to step back and squint thier eyes to see a resemblance of something they once loved..
A month later and nah, it's pretty recognizable, maybe you need glasses
X-Men Evolution... i really hope they dont remember that it exists... that was my jam.
I thought this was gonna be about how the animation is trash. Not about bigots crying about "woke" media 😂😂😂😂.
Only autistic people think he's wrong. And autistic people think X-Men TAS was good.
@@Lunatyk-S1eepwalker “only autistic people think he’s wrong” 😂😂😂
Mate at this point just stop 😂 this is honestly pathetic 🤦🏾♂️😬
Since you don’t like the series why don’t you give me various examples on why the shows bad 😂😂
Go on don’t be scared 😂😂😂
According to stan lee, there was never an allegory. That became a part of the story years later under chris Claremont
And Claremont's X-Men is the definitive version. It's THE run, the one everyone remembers. Stan's run on X--Men wasn't great and the book actually got cancelled under his pen. Stan Lee isn't responsible for all things great about Marvel and it's time you understood that. Stan made Magneto vulnerable to wooden guns.
@@cheapfinish6224 Being able to be hurt by wood makes sense since he’s magnetic and isn’t indestructible. It’s no different than using plastic guns which they do in the movies. Just because Claremont was a good writer doesn’t make them his. That’s like saying if I enjoyed someone else’s interpretation of Taming of the Shrew it no longer belongs to Shakespeare.
@@cheapfinish6224 I don't think anyone could reasonably compare Lee/Kirby to Claremont for quality. It was a good idea to take the story there, but it wasn't intended to be part of the DNA.
@cheapfinish6224 Claremont's run is overrated. This is the same guy who ruined Exiles.
@@cheapfinish6224kid, I was reading comics while your mother was swallowing cum. There would be no marvel without stan lee or jack Kirby. Its time YOU understood that.
I bet you are feeling like a fool lol the show is GREAT!
He's a bottom feeding low-effort reactionary content grifter. Probably off complaining about the next current thing.
9:38 Imagine if this scene aired today. The writers would probably either forget or just straight-up ignore that Rogue should have gotten a look at Gambit's recent memories and seen that he had just been flirted with and even touched by someone who looks exactly like her (I either haven't seen or don't remember this episode, but I'm assuming Mystique.), and somehow turn it into Gambit's fault for not getting her "continuous consent" or something like that. And then Rogue would need to simultaneously be a Strong Female Character™ and also a Victim™.
I bought the 90s Xmen animated series on DVD and I'll be watching that instead.
I never knew that I needed hear one of my favorite political commentators on X-Men (with a slight glance in the direction of Batman and the JLA) ❤
Justice league unlimited was pretty awesome! It introduced me to the question ! The question is one of most underrated characters!
@@jameshurley776 after a while I feel like Justice League Unlimited got a bit bloated with the ever expanding cast of characters. However, one of my favorite episodes is a Justice League Unlimited: the one that focused on Green Arrow, Black Canary, and Wildcat. It was my first real introduction to the Ted Grant, and I honestly wish he had been featured more. Other than that one, though, my favorite episodes tend to be the ones with the original 7.
@@tahlia__nerds_out black canary was kino in justice league unlimited!
@@jameshurley776 I'm not familiar with kino... is this a reference to her martial arts prowess? She *is* a badass. But that's comic canon too... I do credit Justice League Unlimited for introducing me to that aspect of her, though. I hadn't started really getting into comics at the point when I had first started watching any of the various classic DC animated series, so it was the first time that I got exposed to Dinah as her own character instead of just as Ollie's love interest.
Although the show did suffer from having too many characters, it was a good way to introduce its audience to a variety of different heroes from the DC Universe.
apparently attractive = unrealistic
Only for women tho! The men of X-men still have jaw lines, biceps, abs, pecs galore, but only women can’t have “unhealthy” body standards, if 100 men die from steroid abuse chasing a physique oh well, but one girl gets bulimia and the entire entertainment industry must adapt.
If Disney could tailor an old story to fit anyone but themselves they might not turn everything to garbage.
Your final point is one of the reasons I enjoy going back to watch these older shows. They had better values. The “SJWs” of today were rightly depicted as misguided villains driven by hatred such as Magneto & in other shows like Gargoyles the character of Demona who wants to punish an entire race based on things that happened hundreds of years ago.
Old comics featuring "Powergirl" would give Disney seizures.
DC too. Look at the new Power Girl series by Leah Williams. They gave her a stupid jacket, changed her name from Karen to Paige, and she is jealous of Supergirl (Power Girl is strictly a stronger, more confident, better looking version of her from Earth-2).
hasn't even come out yet yall a bunch of haters on a bandwagon
It's a performance. Dudes whole channel is topical culture war b/s. Once something new comes out, they'll all forget about X-Men and complain about that.
You know it's fake because they all use the same article that says Morph was a "beloved" fan favorite. You know, the Michael Bean of the show that died in the first episode. I've heard more about Morph in the last two weeks than I did in the last 20 years. Bunch of performative clown shoes.
Disney would be lucky to be considered a billion dollar corporation now, with all the fuck ups and wasted money on bad movies with no financial returns... 🤔🤫
Oh look, another whiney grifter video that's already aging poorly.
He even looks like one of those Friends of Humanity goons lol
😂😂😂
We’re stuck in the past because that’s all we get. Nobody produces anything new, just sequels and remakes “for modern audiences” nothing new for an audience.
Clout chaser hoping to shit on this show for being "woke" but you were left with nothing ...
I swear im so tired of desperate people trying to appeal to fringe political weirdos
X-Men 97 wasn't dumb. Apologize
As soon as Shaun said "they flattened then out" - I knew exactly where that was gonna lead lol XD
The show came out and it is awesome! So now you can shut up
facts... but we know he is grifting hard😂😂
You can always count on modern "remakes" or "continuations" to be wearing the IPs as skin suits. It has become so shameless.
Playing Champions or Villans and Vigillantes back in the day, (superhero role playing games) you quickly realized it was much easier to make the character a mutant than come up with a creative unique backstory. X-men was never a metaphor for racism, it just was used that way by some
Mutant registration is more comparable to gun control.
Why would Gambit's power explode Wolverine' skeleton?
-- once charge it only explode on impact, non?
-- also Wolverine' skeleton is indestructible... non?
GAMBIT who nearly eclipsed the megastar mutant WOLVERINE hasn't transcended the 90's
Adamantium is indestructible.....or at least it was before the woke-mob took over comics. They aren't big on following the established lore, so it wouldn't surprise me if they changed it.
Gambit has to touch the things he wants to energize I think. So if he didn't touch the claws. The energy had to have gone through Logan's body and still be there, inside of him when he uses the claws. No?
I personally like the 90's animated series. I think they went with a different animation studio that was cheaper due to budget constraints and it showed in the episode "Graduation Day".
Since they made Morph non-binary...does that mean Morph is voiced by a non-binary?
How many of the mutants are voiced by people with mutations?
Need to have fair representation and all
Diversity and Comics shared a screen shot that the quote about Morph isn't from the show-runners. That quote is from a journalist writing about the show. The creators never said that about Morph. Empire Magazine did.
what's crazy to me is that so many people in the year 2024 thought the new XMEN show made by Disney wouldn't be woke trash
It shows how much power nostalgia has. People easily identify woke in new shows but can't do it if it's painted in someone's favorite color.
X Men 97 is 🔥🔥🔥
Actual justice warrior needs to go join the FOH
He really does look like one of those pukes
There's one thing I want to defend in the trailer and I can't believe I'm using X Men Origins Wolverine to do it, but that movie showed Gambit charge his staff and then smack things with it to release the energy and not damage the staff. Maybe it's from the comics, I don't know, but the trailer did not invent it. The powering up claws thing can work.
He didn't touch the claws.....
I always took Rogue and Gambits relationship as don’t touch that a$$ or you might blow your…..
Nostalgia is great to access at our fingertips tips. What's WRONG is re-vamping these old shows and tainting them with today's misguided sacrilege.
I remember the X-Men cartoon back in the 90's, they had a good juggernaut.
Stan Lee addressed the supposed correlation between racial discrimination and the X-Men and said that it was not the case.
The made Rouge into Taylor Swift..
The stroke width felt off. Like it was made in Flash with no pressure sensitivity. All the outline have the same stroke width. Some closeup shots felt like it was not drawn large but zoomed in and blown up 500% which is why it feels so blurry sometimes. The animation has minimal ease-in/ease-out, spacing, framing, as well as anticipation and follow-through. Sentinels felt like they have no weight or momentum. It's like... 2024 regressed rather than improved in animation skills.
Was it generated by AI or something? Their lack of understanding for the basic animation principles feels akin to AI not knowing how many fingers a hand has.
They’re called “ ‘member berries”
Can someone please explain the hate for rogue's body in 97'? It looks exactly the same as the 1992 version.