X-Men 97 stuck the landing
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X-Men 97 just wrapped up but was it able to bring it all together?
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This show stuck the landing as hard as Cyclops’s superhero landing in episode 1
I'm dead lmfao 🤣
I wanna like this multiple times
I’m just going to hit like button and agree 💯
Nice
That landing was the Foreshadowing for the whole show!
For a change, the X-Men managed to land without exploding in mid-air.
When they landed in Genosha, the normal mid-flight explosion was just delayed a couple hours.
Exodus & Pietro catching strays is absolutely incredible. Justice for Strong Guy.
I can't tell if that's literal or metaphorical.
Typical Peter Parker
"I just found Mary Jane yay! Oh no we're gonna get asteroided..."
He just can't catch a break
@@Xendrickhe can’t catch an asteroid either
@@Aldrnari956Knowing Peter he’d probably try to think of some way to stop it
Parker Luck is OP
He didn't find MJ, MJ disappears in 1998 and this show takes place in 1997. So technically she hasn't even vanished yet
Four Horsemen
Gambit as Death
Wolverine as Death
Banshee as Death
Archangel as Death
" So much Death"
GG to everyone if Morph becomes a horseman of apocalypse. Morph is cracked already lol
For serious picks, I'd say Gambit as Death, Leech as Famine, Callisto as War. Unless they go with the notion that Death is the only Horseman to get resurrected.
add sentry randomly
Four horsemen inside four horsemen? That's like sixteen horsemen.
@@chrisblake4198those are serious pics - there was a point where apocalypse (or maybe it was his kids) had a team of 4 horsemen of death
Gambit, Sentry, Grim Reaper and Daken (i believe)
It’s very rare that a show not only lives up to the nostalgic expectations but actually out performs the original. This is some of the best marvel content since endgame. The writers understand the characters, their trauma, their relationships with each other. They’re all flawed and make mistakes but also grow.
The original show is a high bar to clear, but one that was always inherently held back by the children's cartoon standards of the time. It was aa mature as it could be, but not as much as the material being covered had the potential to be.
97 feels like the original show with the kid's gloves fully removed. Not being needlessly graphic or edgy, simply being written for a more mature audience than the original, without losing any of the charm and fun in the process.
X Men 97 is truly a rare beast in this era of endless nostalgia bait of wildly varying qualities
I said from the beginning, X-Men 97 doesn't feel like the original cartoon, it somehow manages to feel like how watching the original cartoon as a kid in the 90s felt. No shade against the original cartoon, it was incredible, but going back it can definitely feel like a product of its time and held back by broadcast regulations and such; but watching X-Men 97 today gives me the same excitement and big stupid grin on my face I had when I was 5 years old watching the original on Saturday mornings
I always liked that bit when Galactus turns up and Spidey and Daredevil literally just sit it out and say "Nah.".
beau demayo did say on twitter that morph's feelings are unrequited, so it seems like just another addition to the x men love polygon
Love rhombus
@@EdeDizon if we're still counting madelyn then its a love pentagon, but if we're not then it's a love rhombus. but maybe they'll pull emma frost into it in s2 and we'll be back up to a pentagon.
God that scene fucking killed me. Reached right up my sternum and punched me directly in the fucking heart.
@@wolf-gh2dz Didn't she (Emma Frost) die in episode 5? I seem to remember her dead, but I might be remembering a dream and not reality.
@@EloquentTrollno, she developed her secondary mutation and they found her in diamond form, so she wasn’t vaporized or crushed
I don't know why everybody thought Val was Mystique. There's no way she would be able to hang around Bastion and Prime Sentinels and not have her mutant signature be detected.
I think people just had the mindset that 'of course Mystique will show up at some point' and where trying to play 'where's Waldo' with her. When Mystique really wasn't THAT big of a player in the original series. She was mostly a minion of Apocalypse, though she did have a couple of appearances outside of that. But she wasn't so prevalent that I'm surprised we didn't have her this season.
@@MalzraAirwynn People probably thought she was a bigger player because of the movies. So many people on Twitter are calling 97 an MCU show that clearly don't know anything about superheroes other than the movies.
@@chinclucker Quite possibly. I know that X Men Evolution also featured Mystique more prominently than the original show did too. And like you said, the Fox X Men movies. Not sure about the other adaptations though.
@@MalzraAirwynn also there WAS a comic run where Val got impersonated by Mystique.
@@marhawkman303yes. After Val was possessed by the Shadow King.
Mystique pledged her services to the US government, which included breaking her wife and the brotherhood members out of prison, in exchange for amnesty.
And Spiral teamed up with them. The issue where they try and arrest Firestar is hilarious.
Basically, Mystique and Val were the prototype of the current model suicide squad has.
The Magneto File also shows his known aliases as Ian M(redacted) and Michael F(redacted)
David Hemblen (the original voice actor) too
I was expecting Nando to talk about that when he showed that screen
Wouldn’t Bastion need Mr. Sinister to invent the techno-organic virus or to mess with people’s genetics and turn them into Prime Sentinels?
he also needed Sinister to infect infant Cable to carry the virus to the future for Nimrod to assimilate it, travel back in time, get defeated, and spawn Bastion
But no Bastion’s use of Sinister doesn’t really scale after Bastion is born I guess
@@hellfish2309he helped create the sentinels in order to change humans into bio tech beings because that is around his expertise. This RUclipsr just missed so many obvious things. It was literally clear why magneto couldnt see his kids yet dude somehow was dumb that he doesnt understand why they did that.
Sinister basically speed up the process...Bastion definitely could have done it by himself but it would have taken him a longer time
@@blowc1612 help me understand because I didn't get it either - why couldn't Magneto see his kids?
@@deanhatescoffee Magneto at the time was still amnesiac. Remembering Rogue is what triggered his other memories.
I’m just happy that Cyclops was treated better in this show after the movies and Wolverine and the X-Men treated him dirty.
Facts. Finally! They put some respek on my man Cyke. For all the ppl always ragging on him and calling him “boring” and “boy-scout “…. I hope this lays all their doubts and hate to rest.
Wolverine and the X-Men amped up his aggressive tendencies, and mellowed out Logan's antagonism, but Cyclops was still pretty good in those.
The movies tho shafted him hard, and the comics started to follow suit for a while.
First time I like Cyclops. I've read literally hundred of X-Men comics and he's always a jerk. This show finally make him likable.
I think the Morph confession was important because in ep. 3 when Madelyne is showing people what they fear, Morph's fear is having their true feelings known to Logan ("Always with the jokes, eh, Morph? As if I don't know...as if we all don't know.") So them finally confessing that they love Logan in the finale is them facing their fear. Kind of a mini background character arc for them.
Lol just noticed that on the President’s file on Magneto two of his other alias are clearly redacted Ian McKellen and Michael Fassbender.
I think Sinister was necessary to help Bastion create his Sentinel-human hybrids. They never outright say it, but I’m fairly certain that was his role in Bastion’s plans.
100% he helped create sentinals as that was about his expertise of bio tech.
Beau confirmed for the wolverine/morph stuff, wolverine sees it as a bromance while morph wants something more, very tragic :(
Kang did appear in the original X-Men series in a multi-part episode called "Beyond Good and Evil' where Apocalypse was kidnapping psychics. He appeared as a character called Bender who later revealed himself as Immortus, which is Kang from a different time period. So if Kang is involved it would be in total continuity with the show.
Comic book nerd active technically that was immortus but same concept
And Rama tut, another version of lang is typically the pharaoh that apocolpyse in the past
No, that was he who remains. Thats not actually Kang. Its a version of Kang but not Kang at all. People dont understand that those characters are different. Just like as a pharaoh, still not Kang, kang is the conqueror other personalities is a completely different person even in the comics Kang explains that each periods of times he lived are completely different person.
He woild still be invovled even if he didnt shownio as Apocalypse origin story is completely tied with his personality as the Pharoah.
@blowc1612 thats not how it works in the comic's
Cyclops was the one who made sure Logan was on his team so that he wouldn’t be on Jeans team 😂.
They certainly stuck the landing. An amazing show.
I think there's definitely room for critique and nitpicks. It's not a *perfect* show... But it's a hell of a lot better than anyone expected it'd be, and honestly surpasses the source material in places.
Morph transforming into Jean to say I love you to Wolverine made me cry
After Apocalypse’s death in the Season 4 finale, he was brought back in one of the final episodes of Season 5 by a cult. He was kinda left as a tease like “oh what’s he up to” and then the show ended for 30 years.
@19:00 I actually loved this part because nothing will pull you out of a stupor quicker than the love of your life.
Beau used this same mechanic disguised as a double entendre when Morph turned into Jean and told Logan they love him while Logan was on the respiratory and you instantly saw his breath as his brain registered her voice while in the coma.
Plus we all know it was really Morph saying how he felt to Logan which is a perfect parallel to how Logan feels for Jean in both having crushes on these people who are not interested in them like that back. And this happens often in life so I love when writers are able to weave those moments and feelings into a story for those who can relate.
The X-Men have always had The Sauce. The are literally just built different.
They better have had a DAMN good reason to fire Beau DeMayo because that mf knows how to cook some gourmet top shelf X-Men.
The thing I heard was that he apparently has an OnlyFans. If that’s the only issue, it’s pretty stupid.
@@timothybrown5999Disney has waited until the last possible moment to fire Jonathan Majors, yet somehow Beau gets kicked out instantly with no apparent reason. He's had onlyfans before he was hired and he doesn't post nudity there so that definitely wasn't an issue. The situation must've been VERY bad for it to happen.
They better NOT have had a good reason. That way they can hire him back. DC should be all over him already like they did with James Gunn.
I've heard he is a pretty toxic dude to work with. Honestly, I'll start giving him credit when he starts talking about the team that he's worked with to make the show.
@@bacsilvahe’s been showing love to the team a ton since the show aired.
My main takeaways:
- really thought they were teasing onslaught and outback Xmen
- we need Spider-Man 98
- I wish we saw Carol Danvers in the cameo section to know she is okay after Rogue
- Weird that they chose T’Chaka after T’Challa was shown in the 90s shows (are they still nervous to recast T’Challa after Bozeman?)
Beau DeMayo said that the only characters that were off limits were Deadpool and T'Challa.
Also I think Carol Danvers is still in that coma. Rogue clearly still has her powers. I think they're going to do Avengers vs. X-Men maybe in Season 3.
Thank you for having common sense @@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
i'd wager that the onslaught teasing/setup will probably be paid off either during the climax of the age of apocalypse stuff we seem to be doing OR midway through season 3 as a twist reveal. obviously however, grain of salt
I disagree with all the Onslaught talk. This was all Fatal Attractions, which was later used retroactively to explain Onslaught origin. They did Fatal Attractions, that's it. The setup for Onslaught comes with it for free. I really hope they don't do it though. Unless they thought of some way to make Onslaught work, which is a big challenge, considering how bad and hated that story is.
They were teasing onslaught but keeping that for another season as this season was already very packed.
I thi j the reasoning for nightcrawler trying to fight bastion by himself temporarily was more to distract bastion more than to attempt to solo him. Nightcrawlers smart enough to know he can’t solo, but he also knows how distracting he can be with his power
Im very glad that you mentioned how silly it is that Daredevil was like “no theft during the apocalypse please!”
Well he lives in a world where world ending events happens many times in a year with many heroes taking care of it. He is a street level hero so he gotta do him.
@blowc1612 it's still funny.
I read it more as he was stopping looters during the period when the power had been cut by magneto as the lights come back on right after that clothesline. When asteroid M starts coming down all the street level heroes seem to just stop.
I definitely took it as Morph saying they love Wolverine. I think there's some kind of crazy, not even love triangle, but more like a love pentagon. Because obviously Scott loves Jean and Madelyne. Logan loves Jean, and probably Madelyne. I'm sure if both Jean and Madelyne stuck around, Logan would have tried to get together with one of them. And then Morph loves Logan. I fully assume they do it. And maybe for Logan it's stress relief, but Morph feels more than just a casual relationship
Feel like Morph is easily the break out character of the show
@@ClericOfPholtus I dunno about breakout, they're funny and charming, but another addition to the love triangle is really annoying. I think the base triangle is already overplayed and annoying, so adding both Madelyne and Morph to the equation is terrible since Wolverine is still somehow not over Jean. Also, I hope they show Morph doing more body warping next season instead of just imitation, since even tho I adore the Quicksilver cameo one of their best comic traits is the slapstick, Impossible Man esque expressions and proportions.
Imagine if morph turned into mystique at the end. We would spend the whole time until season two like "Wait... did morph turned into mystique? Was he always mystique? Wich one has a crush on logan?". Now that's a cliffhanger.
No because wolverine knows morphs and mystiques smell. There was literally an episode where Mystique snuck into the mansion and he sniffed her out. This was also done on the first Xmen film.
@@blowc1612 there was another episode (beyond good and evil) where they were rounding up the psychics. While Psylocke was putting the artifacts she burglarized Warren Worthington's home in storage, Wolverine, Sabertooth and Mystique dropped in to say hello. Mystique turned herself into Psylocke during the skirmish and was found out by Psylocke's telepathy and Wolverine's olfaction. "Blasted bloodhound!" 😂
@@blowc1612that episode is in wolverine and the X-Men. However he has outed mystique and morph in this continuity. Wait a minute. Was she sabertooth? I forgot which shape shifter that was. Either way, you're right about him knowing shape shifters. Like he uses his nose more than his eyes to recognize people just on the regular daily. Like I associate sounds and mannerisms at a distance before I am close enough to see details.
"Where's Multiple Man?" * cuts to him dancing *
12:52 8 girlfriends. Half of them dead. 'Cause "that's how it usually goes." 💀
😂 For real I’m like what is happening right now why is he saying this 😂
As far as Morph's feeling for Wolverine go, it's clear that they were closer than just teammates. Wolverine took Morph's apparent death the hardest out of the team by a huge margin, and Morph demonstrated over and over that they know how to push all of Wolverine's buttons. For whatever attracted Morph to Wolverine, they're probably willing to shift into Jean to give Wolverine a very specific outlet. Wolverine gets to pretend he's with Jean, and Morph gets to pretend Wolverine's expressions of desire and attraction are directed at them rather than their Jean cosplay.
"Well *that's* not weird!"
Ditto with Emma Frost offering to RP as Jean during Astonishing(?)
I think Morph knows that Wolverine probably doesn't feel the same way about them and they do about him. I think that's why he says "I can't say this, but she can"
He wants to tell his friend that he's in love with him and doesn't want to lose him but doesn't have the bravery to say it out loud so he "hides" it behind Jean's voice
I kind of interpreted it as Morph is definitely in love with Wolverine, Morph knows it won’t go anywhere because he knows Wolverine loves Jean, and Morph was just trying to give Wolverine motivation for a stronger push to survive, hoping Wolverine would subconsciously hear Jean’s words and that would make Wolverine fight harder to hang on from his injuries.
Leach needs to be a horseman and have his powers super charged. JUST to fuck with Magneto.
this has slowly become my favorite Marvel superhero content in tv or movies
X-Men have always been the best team Marvel has, and they're finally getting their modern day due
I think I subscribed to you when I found out Magneto is your favorite comic book character but it always surprises me when I find a fellow Magneto lover. He is such an amazing and complex character ❤
10:01 idk, I saw those wings and thought "Xanatos' Gargoyle armor"
Oddly enough... No, Magneto never used his magnetic powers on Logan in the original show. I checked every episode and he always threw stuff at him, but never threw HIM (something he actually did in the comics way back when they first fought).
I like to think in universe people just assumed adamantium was not magnetic and so he could take on Magneto (not sure why Magneto never did that, I guess he never assumed he needed it?)
Maybe Magneto is just a really deep dude. Imagine that humans graft your bones with super-metal to weaponize your body and you dedicate your life to helping them and trying to do the right thing for all regardless the way you were personally violated. Puppeting Wolverine would make Magneto a contributor to that violation. Drawing the line at being stabbed through the chest six blades at a time seems like a reasonable measure.
I think magneto his way powerful now than he was back then, he could telekinesis everyone with his magnetism if he didn't limit himself mentally. Everything is affected by magnets, it's just that metals even the non-magnetic ones are more susceptible to electromagnetism.
Because Magneto never tried his hardest to kill the X-men, he still respected their mission for peace so bending the adamantium would be a violation. Like he said in the TAS "All mutants are accepted on Asteroid M, even X-men 😁🫵"
Maybe Sunspot’s character decisions and mind changing that were weird, were because he’s a teenager and his feelings and decision making skills aren’t fully developed yet.
No, it is more of his insecurities in regards to being a mutant. He always felt that if he was found out that he was a mutant that he would be hated by the world. So when the world showed that they will turn their backs on the mutants of what Magneto have been preaching, his views in regards to human and mutant relationship, it was more on Magneto's side. There is also the fact he delt betrayed when his mom told him to go with the sentinels, so to him he distain the sentinels and he saw that Magneto is on the side to destroy them and not be in peace as Charles is preaching.
How do people missed this such simple motivation of Sun Spot joining Magneto's side. He also joined being lead by Magneto and doesnt know who Charles is. Plus there is the notion that it was Magneto and Rogue being at genosha when the destruction happened and he can see them as the ones who are seeing things clearly that destroying the sentinals is the rightous thing to as he saw the aftermath of the destruction of Genosha he was angered.
It felt that the thing with his mother was just the breaking point and all anger and frustration came pouring out at that point and for someone so angry his decision made perfect sense.
X-men 97 is the definitive adaptation of X-men comics. You want to know what the comics are like, or at least what they were like in their prime? Watch X-men 97. My only issue with the show was that the pacing was too fast at times, but overall they nailed the characters, themes, and action scenes. Like, these are the best superhero action scenes in maybe any tv show ever. And I would argue that the changes they did make from the source material were for the better, like Cyclops/Madelyn/Jean, Forge's involvement with Storm losing her powers, Jean and the Phoenix, etc. This is my favorite show of the last couple of years, my favorite thing out of Disney Marvel, and I cannot wait for season 2.
Yeah, the only thing they don't capture is the ridiculously sprawling nature of the comics that required you to be following a dozen different titles simultaneously to fully understand what was going on. And honestly, anyone who dealt with that back in the day knows this is for the best lol
Nah, where's Onslaught? Why is Wolverine's adamantium skeleton ripped out, but we are dealing with Apocalypse? That's nothing like the comics. If we got Onslaught, then it would be the definitive adaptation. Age of Apocalypse stealing Onslaught plot points doesn't do it for me and isn't the definitive adaptation.
@@kennyhudson9201did you see the mental fight between Xavier and magneto? That is definitely the forming of onslaught. And taking elements from the comics and changing things up makes things more interesting
@@fireblade696 Yeah, but not the definitive adaptation. Definitive adaptation means not changing key plot points.
@@kennyhudson9201That's your own odd personal definition of 'definitive' dont expect others share it. Also you know you are complaining about episodes that arent even out yet.
About Morph and Wolverine:
In the Madeline Pryor episode, he tells wolverine that he can get the hard to reach spots and seems confident about proceeding, hinting that actual Wolverine wouldve been okay with that.
And in the OG series, Wolverine gets especially upset, to the point of hitting Cyclops, when they had to leave morph behind. I know a reasonable team member would be very upset about it, but interesting that Wolverine specifically got the angriest
Wovlerine was also the most invested in helping Morph after he turned out to be alive, even going off on his own to try and find him. That bond carried through season 2 and then with Morph's sporadic appearances after that in the old run. Even with Logan saying at one point Morph was the only person that could make him laugh. Though that doesn't mean Logan is 'in love' with him, if the feelings are unrequited it could just be that Logan sees Morph as a close friend.
Logan sees Morph as his best friend the only guy who can make him laugh. This was stated in the Original Series
Why do gays always want to ship best friends? @@blowc1612
Wolverine has NO sexual or romantic feelings for Morph. He loves them as a friend. Morph however has unrequited love for Wolverine. Although Morph is probably the best person to be in a relationship with. They can transform into literally anyone. Wolverine could do worse.
Everything points that Morph's in love with his best friend and that Wolverine's just like "That's my best friend!"
@18:50 this breakdown of magnetos stormy mind boat made me laugh out loud hahahah
Dude, Exodus is the best part of the krakoa era. He's the most interesting dude on the board.
Great vid dude.
About the confusion on how the Sentinel killed Leach and the others but not Magneto, it's actually already explained by Magneto himself. For Magneto to survive that sentinel blast he had to scale down his shield to just protect himself and let the others die, when he realised that was his only option he even told Leach not to be afraid. The reason he was so mad at the world after Genosha is because he was forced into that position, a position where he had to let innocent mutants die for him to survive. That's also how he could see Leach being vaporised and the reason he was mad at Charles.
What a phenomenal season of Marvel Television! This season and finale were absolutely incredible, and it really had it all! Great writing, jaw-dropping animation, masterful music, amazing voice acting performances, brilliant pacing, respect for the original source material/90s animated series, and lots of fun/really cool Cameos and Easter Eggs for the fans to enjoy! I'm so excited/hyped for Season 2 and will be counting down the days! This finale and the whole season get a 100/10 from me!
If they make Havok a main character, Ill lose my mind. He's probably my favorite mutant.
What about more Summers shenanigans? Throw Cyke and Havoc against Vulcan! You already have a bit of turmoil in the Shiar throw Gabriel in there!
@@albertko1 I would not be upset. At all. I still think an X Factor story would carry so well in this "let's do different genres on Disney plus"
Sunspot, to me, feels like a genuine depiction of someone quickly moving from deeply closeted, to newly out and deconstructing internalized prejudice, to trying to figure out where they fit in the community.
He's wildly grasping at straws to find belonging and support. I find his pingponging pretty relatable.
Based on my own experiences (and Beau's own comments), Morph is basically in an unrequited love situation with Logan.
They know Logan is (probably) straight, so any relationship that could form would ultimately be unfullfilling for both of them. That doesnt take away how morph feels though, of course.
It honestly speaks to a lot of young/fresh queer peoples experiences.
We saw that Bastion has some sort of portal/teleportation ability, I was assuming that Bastion scooped Magneto up with a portal and while Magneto was falling back he had no choice but to watch the Morlocks get vaporized in that split second.
This show made me feel like a kid reading about these characters for the first time. No movie or show, cartoon or live action, has ever recreated that pure nostalgic joy for me in that way. Ever.
Yeah, it stuck the landing.
I did not even see Morph turn into Sauron until you said it.
Also a reminder we’ve had Immortus in this series before, so Kang/Rama Tut isn’t a huge stretch.
The absolute joy of seeing a 44 minute video of Nando talking about x-men
Re: Daredevil
You kind of have to consider the bigger implications. Looting usually happens in moments of extreme panic and societal disorder. So by stopping the looting, Daredevil's essentially trying to bring a sense of calm to the public, restoring some amount of order. Because that's what ground level heroes should be doing in extreme disorder - helping the people on the ground get through it. Looters generally loot because they don't think there's any point in respecting normalcy, or that normalcy is no longer possible and society has eroded.
It's not just a finger wag, saying "looting is against the law! Control yourselves, citizens!" I think Daredevil actually cares about the looters AND about the people being stolen from.
Then you consider that this is the 90s, when there was a bigger middle class, and that those shop owners might just be everyday joes. They could have even been on the streets, unable to defend their store.
9:30 definitely talking about Prof. X lol
Not cal?
Maybe Sunspot
I thought it was wolverine honestly
If you want British, Peter Serafinowicz would be a great mister sinister
You missed the easter egg on Magneto's sheet that shows his previous alias's as been Michael Fassbender and Ian McKellen😮
On the time travel thing. Bastion had absorbed Cable's arm, box was in the arm and controlled his body slides, that was the move Bastion used on Rogue. When the singularly took Bastion it closed. The time dialation effect delayed the detonation that scattered the xmen through time. I would say the magnetic field contained it to just them. The someone is probably box which is possibly greymalkin tech which is connected to Apocalypse.
I think Daredevil was stopping the looters before the chaos of the Prime Sentinels
Very happy and excited to hear that you're doing pitches again!
Story, characters, animation, writing, plot, pacing, right dose of nostalgia... x-men 97 nailed it all!
The great thing about the ending is they didn't even beat Bastion. In essence he was actually right about "humans hating their children" with the missiles(mirroring his own childhood). They didn't actually get Asteroid M away, it was Magneto in the clutch, and even if you let all that slide, they still manage to snatch failure from victory by getting scattered across time. The thing is, that's X-men in a nutshell, never getting a clean win, but saving the world, and getting screwed in the process.
Edit- Daredevil did face a Prime Sentinel, and got wrecked. Also, looting is illegal, just cause things are going crazy doesnt mean free pass act like a jackass.
I really enjoy this video, you have loads of great points. With Sunspot's arc, I think you're right that a couple more episodes focusing on him would have been beneficial, but I think his actions in the last couple episodes still make sense. I don't really see him going with Magneto as him being radicalized, I think he was just scared. He was just starting to feel safe being a mutant, then he was shown exactly why he shouldn't feel safe. His mother abandoned him, essentially, and he was about to go on a risky adventure to stop the world from ending. Then down comes Magneto with all his charisma, telling Roberto that he'll be safe if he joins him. No riisking his life in battle, no more humans out to kill him, all he has to do is follow Magneto and wait for a while. He showed in the fight that his heart was never really in the "kill all humans" plan, he just followed a charismatic leader promising him security, even though that security would be bought with a terrible price. Which feels pretty believable.
Forge's list might exclude people he knows personally because he knows that they're not available to X-man.
I think the Morph thing made a whole lot of sense, from the perspective of a nonbinary homosexual male. There are cis/het men in my life that have been closer than best friends, but physically I was not compatible with their sexual identity. And, I’ve even experienced those friends tell me if it weren’t for my body I would be perfect for them. And that’s okay, I respect their identity and can recognize when it’s more important to have that person in my life even with unrequited romantic feelings.
TLDR; most nonbinary people with cis/het bonds understand Morph & Wolverine’s relationship very well.
That sort of explains why it didn't make sense to me at all. I still don't get it.
@@kennyhudson9201 and you just can’t unless you’re in that situation. And that’s fine, it isn’t meant to resonate with everyone. That’s really one of the beauties of this show, it gave so many moments for so many different people to feel represented and understood by. 10/10, writers.
@@MotherTuck I don't get it. Do non cis people understand straight stuff? Because if so, why don't I understand theirs? I feel like we are all humans and stories should be told universally. It feels like I am left out or too stupid to understand some stuff, when you intentionally put stuff you know not everyone can understand. I kind of wish we would just do universally understood stuff in media, so that I don't feel left out, and like I am missing parts of stories that I enjoy.
@@kennyhudson9201 lol oh. Well, if you really believed all humans were equal and should be able to enjoy a story, you would have no problem with people different from you getting moments to relate to.
Sounds like you’re just another butt-hurt cis/het man that’s upset that someone else got a little time to feel represented.
You had plenty of moments to relate to, I don’t feel bad at all that you “don’t understand” a 30 second moment in a ten episode season.
@@kennyhudson9201 maybe don’t try and get it and just appreciate that it makes others feel seen and happy. There will be parts of a lot of shows that you relate to and understand more than others. It’s a bit selfish to think every single thing has to make sense to you. :)
“I never planned on doing weekly X-Men recaps…but look at the numbers on these videos!” 😅 Totally understand. Gotta make that bread, and we can’t get enough.
You actually brought up a good point about the villains. All of the big ones are usually from the past or the future it does show the X-men struggle
Of the X-Men that disappeared with Asteroid M, Wolverine, Morph, and Storm are currently not accounted for (they weren't shown in either ancient Egypt or the fiture with young Nathan). I think the small unrequited love moments between Morph and Wolverine were here mostly to set up much more interaction between the two of them next season wherever they end up. Storm could also be with them, which makes sense to me as a pairing for a couple reasons.
1. We have already seen alternate futures in the original cartoon where Storm and Wolverine were married, potentially setting up the love triangle you mentioned this season didn't have between Morph, Wolverine, and Jean (just swapping in Storm for Jean)
2. Storm's major arc in this season was overcoming the loss of her powers and reclaiming her identity; Wolverine will have to undergo similar struggles now that his adamantium has been removed and she could be there to help guide him (maybe they've ended up in a time where Wolverine will have to submit himself to the same Weapon X experimentation again, or maybe he will make a deal with Apocalypse)
"Speaking of people we don't see, here are characters we saw in the original series!" The winter guard had a starring episode. And Daredevil taking care of the street level crime is because he see the little people in the big picture. Small business exist and looters are known to get violent, but you think he should call up a girlfriend? Captain America was presented as an ally to mutants who thinks about the bigger picture on a macro level, which is why he doesn't act impulsively. He tried to dissuade Kelly from launching nukes. The dialogue literally never said anything about their psyches combining into Onslaught either, they talked about the risk of shattering Xavier's mind along with Magneto's. Magneto can't see the faces of his family because of his trauma (it's explained). And he never raised the kids and only found out about his parent status when his children were all grown. Sunspot's story was about learning what a real family is; you can screw up with family and they forgive you. He got pissed off and picked the side that picked him after his family threw him to the wolves. They combined launching Krakoa into space with the siege perilous to displace people across time. Morph has very obviously one sided feelings that are not and cannot be reciprocated with every line they say being a joke to avoid dealing with real feelings. Usually your reviews are usually so much more on point and less of a "did some nerdy bro casual do a bunch of reading before making a video" vibe.
* HUGE fan by the way, I'm only honestly critical because I care and you've helped me to find more info over the years and you don't come off like someone who would read a comment disagreeing with/critiquing your videos so much as a "oh damn I missed that" or "Naw I disagree but I see where you're coming from" kinda person.
I’m with you on just waiting for an explanation of how Bastion got magneto off genosha. Any teleporters on his team?? Seemed like a perfect set up with Leech countering his powers to “hide” him. The only explanation I got was that Bastion was ON Genosha for the attack. Which is great and, yeah, I missed it on the first watch. But doesn’t explain how Magneto survived (especially since he says he SAW Leech die in his arms) and doesn’t explain how bastion captured him and took him off the Island.
I’m not even an x-factor fan boy, but I am ALL for getting an update on that team. Particularly an update on how they feel about having been used by Val AND Bastion against their own kind? Feels like a good time for them to stop punching in their government time clocks and go rogue.
I have a very special place in my heart for the og Generation X comics (especially #1-25) but it’s probably for the best if they basically mix new mutants with gen x and x-men academy, and have them ultimately “graduate” to a Cable led version of X-force. I would LOVE to get banshee and Emma co-teaching, but could also work to maybe have kitty co-teach with Emma. Would also be cool to get some of Emma’s shenanigans toying with Iceman’s powers psychically a la early 90’s x-men comics, basically making him aware of his untapped omega level potential. Don’t really see Bobby as the “teacher” type though, even if he is a founding member of the x-men.
Apocalypse "died" at the end of season 4, and in season 5 Beast and Jubilee encounter a cult dedicated to resurrect him lead by Fabian Cortez. He tried to use Jubilee's body, but they managed to escape so Apocalypse took over Cortez's body. So Cortez is probably dead or trapped inside Apocalypse's mind.
14:00 Remember, Mystique wasn’t really a big part of the first 5 seasons of this series. She would just come in every now and again, cause havoc and then disappear.
I think the one thing that bugged me in the moment was Rogue knocking Bastion to the Moon. Like, cool idea and all but get some sense of scale please guys. At their fastest speeds it would take Rogue and/or Sunspot and Bastion days to get from low Earth orbit to the Moon and back, even if you ignore that these characters were only supposed to be able to fly in space with suits or if Magneto or Jean held air nearby for them.
Was it perfect no. Was it amazing? Fuck yes! I wasn’t expecting this to be this good. I loved it.
I gotta get my TV as far away from my house as possible !!! 😂😂😂
Police were out using lethal force during the riots, DD knew looters were about to turn a corner and run into their line of fire, so he saved their lives
Dude I'd love to know which voice actor you thought could improve. Everyone was so damn perfect to me I can't even begin to guess who it is.
Same, I'm kind of confused by this. I'm really curious now though.
Maybe Roberto's VA?
About Scott and Jean being there with Askoni; looks like they are covering the Advemtures of Cyclops and Phoenix run in which Apocalypse was a the big bad there too. I think all the Xmen will be dealing with Apocalypse in each of the timelines they are stranded in. With Wolverine, Bishop, Storm, and Forge’s team dealing with the present day Apocalypse.
So glad they didn't do Onslaught. The fact that the high road was taken all around was perfect.
11:53 when I was a kid I thought the same thing kinda (about DD), but I knew I was missing something that a kid doesn't know. I was never that mindless kid that thought he knew sh!t. This statement made me remind me of that kid time line.
“Are they gonna hug it out” 😂😂😂
*"I did not expect to be making a video about X-Men 97 this week..."*
Nando can't think of a new intro, huh?
This show was so awesome! I wasnt expecting to like it nearly as much as I did not having seen the OG, but man, the direction was great!
It’s was perfect in my opinion. Very pleasant surprise overall. Now let’s just hope it doesn’t take too long for season 2.
Rumors has it that it has already been written.
There is a distinct possibility that the Sinister we saw in this season was an experimental subject of the real Sinister used as a failsafe. This would explain the strange change of accent in a production so keen regarding small details.
finally the nando vid is here, been waiting since i finished the finale. This show turned my girlfriend into a diehard Storm stan and X-men fan
The only thing I was a little uncertain about was the Prof X/Magneto psychic battle. What happened there? Charles hijacked Magneto in order to reverse the EMP and then, what? Brought him back? Changed him? Manipulated him? In Fatal Attractions, Magneto was left catatonic. Charles cometely broke him. In Ultimate X-Men, he wiped and reprogrammed Magneto into thinking he had always been a regular guy. In '97, it seems like he brome and rebuilt Magneto without really changing anything.
In regards of possible new members based on the board, I'm pretty sure they didn't immediately established the new team to leave room for speculations and discussions between both seasons.
“I’m not gonna single him out” we all know who you’re talking about cuz hen was like 3 major characters in invincible, we know…
It's absolutely brilliant. Genosha was wild. The writing is wonderful. I teared up during the Cable, Scott, Jean diner chat. Was scared when Nightcrawler was fighting Bastion. Felt like this season was not pulling punches and other X-Men could offed after Genosha and Gambit.
Colossus’ appearance as well as everybody’s new outfits in episode 9 were how they appeared the lost pilot episode Pryde of the X-Men.
Those are just their classic comic costumes. Pryde of the xmen was just using their current comic designs
There was a point in watching this show i was holding my pee and waiting for an ad. As I ran to the bathroom and powertinkled I was hit was an overwhelming sense of nostolgia of when i used to do exactly that as a child.
That moment was priceless.
My guess for the one actor who wasn't great, Forge? He definitely sounded a bit flat a lot of the time
Probably Sun Spot. He is hating on Sun Spot in this video.
Sun spot did have some whatever lines at best…cool character tho
I was thinking Cable
I was thinking Forge as well
Yeah, definitely noticed that in the last episode when he thought all the X men and Storm died, the actor really didn't sound as devastated as he probably should have.
I actually really enjoy the morph/wolverine dynamic.
Trying to think of why Bastion needed Sinister like you were saying, cause yeah Bastion could for sure just make the sentinels himself, but maybe he needed Sinister to specifically help with the human genetics side of making Prime Sentinels, since genetics is his expertise
Didn't know Nando was so against Daredevil fighting crime. Learn something new every day
Yeah, daredevil beating up desperate people from hell's kitchen to defend those poor corporation property is totally on brand
@@Jpodre98 He literally just clotheslined them. Very disingenuous to claim he's beating up 'desperate' people in this situation. Staying in Hell's Kitchen instead of doing nothing against a crashing asteroid is actually on-brand
He really has been going on weird political rants lately
The only episode that lacked was the Charles in space plot line. It was necessary to show what he's been doing and lead up to his return, but after the huge cliffhangers it killed the pacing.
I was expecting the Shi’ar to show back up.
Lol I think I was so distracted how little I cared about Morph and their discount Andrew Rannells Voice (no shade to the VA, I thought they were fine and they're probably even better in other things, it's just very clear to me what direction they were given) that I genuinely didn't even notice that they were supposed to have feelings for Wolverine
I stumbled onto to your channel & glad I did. You know your sh*t dude! I love it!
Your Xavier impression is hilarious😂 great recap as always
How could the moment of Morph confessing his love for Logan feel flat?
It's not something that "came outta nowhere", for "no reason".
At that point they all thought they were going to absolutely, 100% die. Scott and Jean said their goodbyes to Cable. It was pretty obvious because every time Logan was a bit down, the one who was always there for him was Morph, to meet him at whatever emotional level Logan needed (joke around, become Sabretooth to relieve the stress and sadness of "Jean" (Maddie) giving birth to Nathan, etc).
One does not need to have their feelings reciprocated in order to want to and then finally end up doing it.
Pls tell the name of the special. U talked about it so passionately nd then didn't mention it lol😝
I assume he was talking about Conner O'Malley new special. It is hilarious, definitely not for everyone, and dropped around that day
Connor O'Malley
"Standup Solutions"