DIY Magnetic filter INSIDE Radiator - How to fit Radmag
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- Опубликовано: 22 май 2024
- How to fit a magnetic slude filter INSIDE your radiator. Radmag installation and review!
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If you have a towel radiator on your heating system, and can't find a place for a magentic filter, or have the required plumbing skills to fit one, the RADMAG is the perfect DIY solution. Although it will also be good for plumbers to have on the van. This filter will trap magnetic sludge inside your radiator and prevent it from ciculating around the heating system water, stopping black water and poor efficiency in the heating system.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:58 What is Radiator sludge?
2:11 How the Radmag magnetic filter eliminates sludge
5:06 How to Install a Radmag filter in your towel radiator DIY
8:15 How to Clean the Radmag radiator filter
12:04 Competition
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... so simple it's genius!
the solution has been staring everyone in the face for decades, only now has someone cottoned on!
Hey James... Saw your video and thought what a genius product. I've got a Vaillant filter in my system but I thought Radmag would give it a helping hand. Anyway it turned up and I installed it real quick in my (tall) towel rail. Ran the heating for 30mins and of course had to see what I'd collected. Went to pull out the Radmag and found the little nut had fallen off the bottom and disappeared, and the bottom spacer was floating just below the vent hole. Cue a pause for thought... Fished out the spacer and noticed the hexagonal recess where presumably the locking nut should sit. Remembered that when I'd done the installation, the locknut was proud, and therefore loose. My bad I suppose. Instructions could have mentioned checking this though. As I'm a very persistent man and don't like to be beaten, the next day I isolated my towel rail, took it off the wall, flushed it out and recovered the nut. Took the Radmag apart, re-assembled with all threads done up tight, and used Loctite. Problem solved but I think all purchasers should take that precaution, obviously before installing in a fit of enthusiasm, like me, and causing extra work :-) :-)
I have already fitted one, amazing the amount of gunk it collects in a short time. Brilliant idea. 👍🏼
Hat off to the person that came up with the idea 👌 better than not having one anyway and if you have multiple towel rads then even better 👍
Thanks James, Thank you for a great video on the RadMag. I've installed them now on my 2 towel radiators thanks to you, and it's amazing to see the amount of magnetite they collect. Keep up the good work with the videos. Cheers from Mike!
Clever guy, i love it when simple ideas come to fruition genius
Good idea! I crafted my own for regular radiators though using copper pipe and neodimium magnets and put it on the return end. works amazing
Well I've bought one so hopefully it works well and will update after a while of use to see how it does.
Absolutely brilliant ! Had one fitted 2 weeks ago its already collected some dirt.
Hi James, Just been watching some of your older videos. Were all missing your co-star George the cat bless him. Just wanted to say a big thanks to you and George for the amazing memories and useful information on everything plumbing..... Purrrrrrrfect!
Amazing that it took so long for something so simple to become available. Thanks for informing us, I think I'll give these a go.
Thanks James
Good luck..... 😀
Great idea, just ordered one. Thanks
Looks like a good idea
I fitted a few. People seem happy with them.
Great product, just ordered one
Great idea!
Yeah great idea👍🏽
Just received mine and put it in, so simple. Left it in a few seconds and took it out and could already see traces sticking to the magnets.
RadMag sounds radical but not to be confused with a BMX bicycle feature.
Looks like a good idea as long as your radiator is clean. If it's munged up already I can imagine that thing getting wedged in there by those orange bits!
Great idea 💡
Perfect place in the towel rail
Hi James love your videos..just watched your plumbworld radiator video..I've just purchased 3 of the towel radiators pw1600600c the instructions show it fitted with the 4 bars at the bottom but all there pictures show other way up .phoned them to ask what's the right way to hang them an also asked him about the valve inside the radiators he didn't no what I was on about and whether it's upside down or not.if you can offer any help please.
A little tip James. If you turn the chrome knobs around the other way you can turn down the radiator instead of using your spanner.lol
I bought one, but didn’t have enough headroom to properly install it.
I managed to take it apart, so I could lower it in piece by piece. Unfortunately, the orange plastic guides would not pass through due to the horizontal tubes being proud. Never mind, I thought, they’ll come off as well! They did, and everything was going well until the final piece of the telescopic piece also fell foul of the protruding tube!
Defeated, I reversed the process.
The magnet wasn’t in the radiator more than five minutes and it was thick with magnetite! It’s an impressive product, and for those whose installation went smoothly, I can see it working well. A shame it hasn’t worked for me.
We have a real issue with where we can install a magnetic filter and I thought this would be perfect…….
Maybe I’ll replace the towel rail instead!
I remember when Clive Sinclair came up with the C5 Battery / Pedal buggy for commuting around on , a great idea that was never going to work.....
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Yay.... the [James] Plumberparts shopping channel is... back. 😁
Guess the latest Bar Bill is due settling eh.😉
So.... "hold tight". To them wallets guys. 🤣
saw your video on the radmag i have just fitted one on my towel rail my rail is over 1000cm do they make a longer one or is there just one size .very ease to fit as you said
Ah, so you’re saying it’s a grower, not a show-er? Great video as always, definitely getting one thanks!
Nice video. So would i be right in thinking you would only need to install 1 of these to clean the WHOLE system?
Nice idea. Better than nothing, but not a good position for a mag filter. If space on pipework is an issue, then fernox tf1 omega without valves can normally fit somewhere much more handy than that.
Great idea, seriously looking to fit one.
Need one on my own system, literally no where to fit unless I had one coming up out of the floor in the hall, so this is brill
Guessing it’s a weak magnet and capacity load will be small? Can imagine it collecting what a magnaclean can then scraping off back in to the rad as you pull it out 😂
That’s what the plastic protectors are there to mitigate. I’ll know when I do a service in a couple of months. 👍
@@plumberparts may the gas gods be in your favour sir 😬
Ive installed them and magnet isnt weak at all
Wonder whats the service interval ?
Bought one of these, removed after a month where it had collected a film of gunk. Put back after cleaning, 2 months later removed again for cleaning and found that the magnetic part had unscrewed along with the plastic spacers and left within the towel rail. I now have to remove the rail and try to push it all out from the bottom. I tried to reinsert and re-screw it all in situ but to no avail. Result new towel rail. Bad design due separation of magnetic end of rod. Beware !
Sold out already
Check that the bottom fixing Nyloc nuts are secure. Also check that the two blocks on the device fit the aperture of your towel rad. Do not force them in!!!!! If needed, sand them down to fit.
Ok so like the idea be interested to see in maybe a follow up video on how it deals with high amounts of magnetite and how much is put back into the system when service happens. Could it be longer but thinner magnet ?
Hi Chris ive done a video so you can see how much RadMag has colkected see top if comments regards Mark
Why, at about 6:43 when you installed it, didn't you fully extend it so that the magnet was right at the bottom of the towel rail nearer the isolation valve?
it's 800mm long, the rad is 1200mm+ . Explained at 4:30
@@UberAlphaSirus Thanks. When you said "we'll extend it that far" it sounded like you chose a specific amount to extend it rather than just fully extending it. Makes sense now. Looks like a good product.
What if you have a curved towl rail
Can these be used in conjunction with magna clean or instead of, or is there no point using this if you already have a magna clean installed?
He said he is fitting and he already has other in place .....
it would be good at end of line or furthest rad from the start imo
What about a normal rad, can these only be installed on towel rads?
any normal single panel rad.
Problem with normal rads is that your bleed screw is generally at the side, meaning the magnet rod would be installed horizontally at the top. Thus reducing the effect as most sludge sits at the bottom.
Who broke the door off the hinges of the wardrobe? 😂
Mmm, the restricted water flow is going to be a lot faster than the deliberately large, flow reducing space of a magnetic filter, so it's likely to be a lot less efficient. And, can't really tell from vid, but isn't it going to magnetise the whole steel radiator & cause it to attract magnetite to every surface?
Found the Instagram post for this but no mention of how to enter the competition in the post
Do you think this will stop the build up of sludge in other radiators or just the towel rail?
It should help clean the water in all the radiators as it picks up sludge when the water flows through. That's the idea anyway.
We want to get rid of Magnemite?
Think it would be a good addition to a system but definitely don’t think it should replace a magnetic filter
Will it not make the whole towel rail magnetic and all the crap collect in there? Will be interesting to see
But then how do you get it out?
if it did you wouldn't get it in or out, it's just enough to catch the metal in the water....
it would be a good addition to the system and also add inhibitor
Will it fit in a regular rad (horizontally) ?
If your talking about standard panel radiators K type then no because they only have an opening of about an inch or two before branching off to the panel(s). Some of those bigger vintage / school radiators might work and some modern panels might. Likewise same theory for adding electrical emersion style heaters to radiators.
@@_Miner gotcha, thanks
I have been using Kamco machines for 20+years and have worn one out, I've flushed so many systems!
Bought the original Adey powerflush kit at Earls Court when it first came on the market; Chris Adey was on the stand and I paid, I think 150quid, as an add on he gave me FOC a 300mm Magnaclean.The two combined is the only way to deal with badly contaminated systems!
I would advise anyone who is serious about combating magnetite to get on a Kamco course. If not, your not a serious professional.
I'm sure, given the numbers of boiler changes, a lot of installers may convince themselves that systems changed in even as little as the last 10-15 years only require draining and refilling, thorough flush or Magnaflush as being adequate.
If the the condition of the system is not seriously determined , the life of the boiler is bound to be negatively impacted! And using cheap and or inappropriate cleaning and inhibitors can not be tolerated by the professional installer.
I know my comments will not be greater positively by many , but don't listen to me, take the time to find out what Kamco etc. Fernox, Sentinel, Adey,Scalemaster, Calmag and other quality providers can add to your expertise.
Knowledge is not cheap, quality is not cheap and cheap don't buy a professional installation.
All this prompted by the absolute and most outrageous,misleading, cynical posting by plumber parts!!
I'm and have Always endeavoured to portray myself and the trades in the most positive way.That sort of commitment didn't come cheap, unlike this most disgraceful misrepresentation!!
I look forward to you making amends.
I think this is a good idea in theory. But it’s not a replacement for a filter on the return! This will filter a small part of the system and if it blocks the towel rail blocks?
Fine for DIYers but not sure that heating engineers should be fitting it.
Still prefer to use a small ring key spanner
It would be even better if it came with a Autovalve on it.
you should have done a idiots guide to removing the cap on the rad towl. If the flow does not stop in 20 sec or so then your valves may not be working and dont flood the house :)
Someone's looking tanned.. 😎😎
All well and good removing it from a towel radiator but won’t stop the build up downstairs and with you saying if you haven’t got or can’t fit a magnetic filter then use this, I doubt it would collect it, but if never serviced and a heating engineer was unaware then maybe in time it would clog up, ? Think in needs proven property on a bad system and maybe compare.
I fitted one last week, whilst doing other work on the heating system , easy to install, on recommissioning the system I took it out and it really does drag out the contamination and this is only out of the towel rad so far as not circulated yet. But the bleed screw is of such a very poor quality , it is as if a 1st year apprentice has made it by hand with a "bastard" cut file , it simply is so bad and not square to use a normal rad key. The use of a "juzzie" spanner simply is over kill and access is somewhat limited so not really convenient and not what should be expected. I will update this in 6 months .
Just wonder how those plastic guides will last after 12 months of hot water going over them, not totally convinced tbh
if they are made from polypropylene then no problem.
my kettle is made of plastic not to mention many other kitchen items that go inside a dishwasher without issue . plastic is robust & hot water heat cycles will be no bother here. where plastic is vulnerable is around solvents usually petro paint thinner type like around vehicle engine bay plastic there is a nightmare.
It does not collect non-magnetic solids.
My towel radiator also has a heating element in it 🤔
You mean it's not part of the central heating system?
Holdtite
Idea is brilliant, just not practical though. Look at the amount of sludge the magnacleans catch, imagine that amount on that magnet, then removing it from the rad, it’s all going to fall off into the rad and cause more problems!
I suppose you will have to check it every 6 months or do, so that it could be cleaned. Therefore not having a large build up. Think it's worth a try.
That shite, get a massive build up it won't come out of the rad 🤣, and end up back in rad 🤣, or all over the cream carpet 🤣,
Scrap start again
Hi all here is the second part of my maintenance video for RadMag.
ruclips.net/video/f63txBHNLeA/видео.html
Not as good as understanding water quality and preventing a dirty system of course but the UK market is a completely different one to the rest of Europe.
This is an irrelevent comment as in the real world we deal with peoples heating systems as they are not how ideally we would like them to be. Radmag helps to clean up heating systems in the real world.
@@marknorris5529 flushing the system is a solution, this is like putting a plaster on a knife wound. It's just another gadget being sold into the massive British heating industry when what installers really need is a higher level of training.
@@patrickwheeler2646 Then you clearly think the same of jar filters too
@@marknorris5529 not for retrofit, most systems have been neglected for a long time and the existing corrosion of steel radiators has to be prevented from damaging new heat sources. For new installations I do yes.
@@patrickwheeler2646 then logic suggests you must think the same for radmag too
Not sure I think this is a great invention unless you can get it to the bottom of the rad it’s pointless if not
another advert
Warning just tried to fit this the orange sleeve was really tight so much so I could not get it out of the towel radiator. I had to cut the top orange one off so that it would go in . Now I can just pull it out to the magnet section to clean it . Please check if it’s tight don’t put it in towel radiator. If both sleeve were in I would never have got it out . Please be aware
Nah not a great idea
Having watched the video, I've responded initially; Having taken the time to reflect on the presentation, I'll say this; Up to one 1 metre in length, what about 1.8metres?
No mention of the relevance of flow or return installation. The contaminates are at the BOTTOM of the rad! Anyone who spends 40 to 50 Quid on this is a FOOL!
CHECK OUT MAGNETITE ON GOOGLE, DO NOT ! PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS " GUYS" !
At the risk of being sued for who knows what, this product will not meet Part L Building regs! I welcome an intelligent response!!
why does this not meet part L regs?
@@marknorris5529 If you read part L, or better still, take the time to watch Derek Robins video at Tomkat gas training you'll have a clearer view than I could explain here. To everyone, it should be understood that Building Regs. are mandatory and contravention can result in criminal prosecution!
@@johnward5006 John you havent explained why it does not allow a heating engineer to comply. You also assume incorrectly i have read the section on magnetic filters
Absolute waste of money. Anyone who knows anything about system contamination will I'm sure be outraged by this one sided, simplistic and misleading presentation!
You not protecting the boiler at all which is what they're all about
If you become outraged then your just a sad individual and need to chill out
@@lestc8579 You, obviously have no idea what magnetic filtration and system cleaning is all about!
@@johnward5006 if you think a jar filter like magnaclean is effective which they are why do you think Radmag isnt its the same water going round the system.?
@@marknorris5529 For one thing beyond the length of the device it won't capture magnetite. Secondly, what it may capture for retrieval is limited by the internal diameter of the 1/2" female BSP thread, 21mm, which greatly reduces its value.
It's therefore only of use in previously thoroughly flushed systems.
What we really need is widespread upgrading of iron/steel rads to something like brass/aluminium - Maybe not even the entire thing, just the inner cavities in contact with the water.
No iron on the line -> no magnetite in the pipes to deal with. So many old, sludgy systems out there punishing their boilers trying to get the house warm! There's probably a fair amount of gas could be saved if this was actually pursued nationally (no chance with this gov though) 🧲😎
Much easier and cheaper to just fix the water and keep the oxygen out.
@@edc1569 Really? I'd be interested to know what you have in mind since you do mention water and not some other solvent which would be another clever workaround (maybe a not-very-viscous oil in the CH instead but then that's a boiler alteration).
You could bubble nitrogen through a tank of water with an outlet to offgas to fully deoxygenate it, and then fill your system (under vacuum) with that water to avoid letting any air or oxygen from the air in, but that's neither easier nor cheaper in any way than just swapping out steel for brass/aluminium rads (of course) so I fear you might be just shooting the shit :P It would also add needless complication to have to order in this 'special water' for a job instead of tapping into the cold mains to fill :P
And in practical terms, it's almost a guarantee that air will get in at some point in some tiny quantity through the smallest gap somewhere and then you're right back at square 1 lol
Hi James love your videos..just watched your plumbworld radiator video..I've just purchased 3 of the towel radiators pw1600600c the instructions show it fitted with the 4 bars at the bottom but all there pictures show other way up .phoned them to ask what's the right way to hang them an also asked him about the valve inside the radiators he didn't no what I was on about and whether it's upside down or not.if you can offer any help please.