MSI Pro Z790-P Motherboard Review (Intel 13th-Gen 13900K + 13600K Tested)
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Intel 13th-Gen 13900K CPU / Intel 13th-Gen 13600K CPU
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So far a great board and it looks really nice. I got one paired with the i5 13600k and 32gb of corsair vengeance 5600 cl36. No issues getting it running. I got it for gaming with my 4080.
did you have to update bios or do anything? Or did the cpu work with the motherboard straight away? I'm building a pc pretty much exactly the same as yours ;D.
@@johnschrader8363 any z790 should support 13th gen right out the box
just bought the same combination yesterday! cheers
Do you know if the board supports corsair icue rgb ?
I am thinking to pair this motherboard with 13700k + 4080.
I just got this board with a I7 14700k and 64 Gb ram and RTX 4070Ti & 27in widescreen G-SYNC monitor runs cyberpunk 2077 so smooth & looks and runs amazing. G-SYNC is really cool how smooth at high frames.
Did the CPU run out of the box or did you have to update the BIOS?
Nice review.
Got mine during Amazon Prime Days for 3,400 Rand ($190 USD).
So far I'm loving it and the i7-13700K.
Upgraded from MSI Z270 Gaming Carbon & i7-7700K.
What do u use to cool the 13700k
Noctua NH-D15 but wished I had gotten the Peerless Assassin at 1/3 the price and 97% of the performance.
Hello mate,
I wanna ask you is there any difference between
Msi pro z790 wifi ddr5 and
Msi pro z790 wifi pro series ddr5
Is there an I/O shield
Yes.
4:59 Did you manage to boot into bios on the first try or you had to do a bios flash in order to get a post?
Kinda odd that a board meant for the 13th gen still needed a bios update to work 😑.
Yea I thought so too. I thought Z790 boards should already be able to recognize 13th gen Intel CPUs without the need of any BIOS updates.
@@wfwf7645 wow, as if its a z690 board just repackaged as a z790
I bought mine and it was already compatible with my 13600K so I don't know wtf is this people talking about, all Z790 come ready from the box for 13th Gen CPUs,
@@jeantechnoir7702😭😭
Thant's not a Z790, it's a Z690
Just snagged this board from Micro-center for $74 dollars under the manager clearance table!!! Needed to upgrade my current pro B660M-A wifi
man i paid like $329 aud ur lucky
lol that cat walking by
I'm surprised this needed a bios update considering it's a z790 wtf...?
Repacked from last year
@@michaelfishman6082 what do u mean "repacked"?
All z790 wont need a bios update to support raptorlake.
HAHAHA, the situation with the cat was dramatic 😁
There is also a DDR4 memory motherboard with this same model number and now is supposed to support 14th gen processors also.
Bro pls can you tell it supports argb or not
The oddest thing is the 4th PCIe slot is marked as x1 in the spec. However, it is lay-outed as x4 in the motherboard. So, which one is the fact?
It has x4 nvme 4.0
Did you take the thermal pad sticker off your SSD cooler? It looks like you only rotated it to the side?
Seems amazing and VFM
I found the MSI Pro Z790-A combined with 13600k
I am a bit confused if its better to choose Gigabyte Aorus z790 Elite Ax
Need your feedback on this
Thnx in advance...
Gigabyte Aorus z790 elite ax ddr5 can recommend because my brother using with i9 13900k. run smooth but he undervolt the cpu. 24 hrs no issue until now.
does this board works with the m2 970 evo plus ?
Just picked this board up for my i5 13600k and a 7.0 isnt reassuring. However the comments are leaving me hopeful.
I get so much conflicting info on max CPU temps. I have this board in an IBP prebuild with a 13900KF. Common benchmarks also shoot temps up to 99/100C almost immediately. Idles around 50C which seems way high.
You had similar max temps. Was your cpu throttling at that point? Is there any way to better cool this CPU/MB combo? Some people say this will fry fast at these temps while others say different.
I see your bench with a pretty decent cooler still at water boiling temps. What was your idle temp on the 13900? What standard should I be applying?
Thanks.
@@yellowisthemellow Thanks. I found the OOTB fan/pump curve in BIOS was way off for idle temps. I tweaked that and idles 29-30 now. Next is to try to get those high temps down.
read what intel say about you CPU max operating temp,
do you think the ASUS Prime Z790-P WiFi D4 motherboard is just as good as this board? If you had to choose which one to buy out of the 2 which would you choose?
It’s a tough one coz this board has PCIE 5 for the M.2 slot and the ASUS one has PCIE 5 x16 slot. They both don’t have the combined M.2 and x16 PCIE 5. So if you’re planning on gaming and getting a 40-series somewhere along the lines I would say the ASUS one. I would personally go with ASUS because the Gen4 M.2 is already blazing fast. I could live with it. Rather that than get a board that doesn’t support a GPU now or even next year’s releases.
@@GLITCHEDZA If youre going with a 13th gen intel, stay away from that Prime board. you cant flash bios on that one without a 12th gen processor lying around to boot into so you can flash for the 13th gen.
The MSI board has a button to allow you to flash the bios without a CPU installed.
I was looking at the "A" version of the ASUS prime, and the MSI PRO and went with the PRO since i could flash without a processor.
Build is in progress. Slow holiday shipping. I can link up a video after im done if you would like.
@@EasyMoneySG where is button on msi PRO Z790-P wifi ?
@@EasyMoneySG ASUS Prime Z790-P WiFi D4 doesn't need BIOS flashing, it is natively compatible with 12th and 13th gen. It's the z690 that needs flashing for the 13th gen CPU.
DDR4 is old story now try to get any motherboard that supports ddr5. So you don’t need to upgrade more parts down the road.
what do you mean not a gaming motherboard? I just ordered this for my high end gaming pc?!
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Ty for the review! I bought a i5 13600k and I ask me if I have to flash the bios before installing the cpu and other components. Or will the system (components installed) get me in the bios?
I wan to buy this board and core i5 13600 kf
Do you recommend me?
The mainboard is fine. Before the initial startup, you should perform a BIOS update. After that, everything runs as it should.@@o_kudo_o8854
I have the Max version of this board in my 12600k PC. Works great. I haven't tried to OC it yet, but I think Im gonna turn it up a little bit and see how it goes. Problem is I really dont know what Im doing, but there are plenty of videos online, many using this exact setup, so it shouldnt be too bad. I have it under a 360 AIO, so I dont think Itll be too bad.
you can so some slight overclocking in the BIOS or even install an Intel AI overclock tool. But if you slowly nudge it bit by bit, you should not have any problem. The good thing is you can't break anything with subtle overclocking. If things don't work you can always revert it back. good luck!
@@GLITCHEDZA Is the Intel AI overclocking tool something anyone can download?? Or only people with certain hardware combos?? The part I don't understand and worry me is messing with the voltages. I don't know what a ring voltage is. I didn't see any AI overclocking options in my bios. Thanks for the help!! I se some P cores are at a different clock speed than other P cores, would I be OK clocking them all the same??
@@GLITCHEDZA Hey thanks for the help. I downloaded the Intel Extreme Tuner and it auto overclocked my CPU for me, just like you said. I'm running a 12600k at base frequencies of 4.9 and 3.9 on the P and E cores with a voltage offset of 0.25. I'm sure I could go further, and may in the future, but I was hoping to keep this setup for as long as possible and have no idea how far is too far. The Intel XTU made it so much easier than overclocking through the bios or MSI Creator.
@@stephenhood2948 Sorry I missed your previous reply I am travelling. but I am glad you managed to get it to work and it was easy. Remember that most Intel CPUs, like the one you have come overclocked already. That's why they run so hot. They are actually quite hard to get running "much" faster than they already are. So I think your subtle tweaking is perfect.
@@GLITCHEDZA Again, thanks for the help. I have a 12600k under a 360 AIO, so the cooling is probably a bit overkill, but Im ready for an i7 or i9 later if I want. Without the overclock my CPU temp never even moved from idle while gaming, though I was maxxing out an RTX 4070 with 20% CPU usage. If I run some benchmarking tools I would get 100% CPU usage and temps in the 60s with around 90 watts on the CPU. After the OC I ran prime 95 and got the temp into the mid 70s with 130 watts. I can probably go a little further, but this is my first time Overclocking with anything other than Afterburner on a GPU. Like you, it already boosts, and Im getting 90-100 FPS at 1440p Ultra settings without an OC. Ill probably just run it without the OC, I just wanted some benchmarks with the OC. I am having a weird thing with my GPU. Its a Galax RTX 4070. Sometimes its fine and sometimes the fan wont come on when gaming. Its easy to see the 11 FPS with no fan running. Restarting the game, sometimes the PC or sometimes the Galax extreme tuner OC tool is what it takes to get the fan going. I might try to delete the Galax tuning software and go with Afterburner, or even just run it with no OC. IDk why it does that though??
Still waiting for the z790 godlike but it got delayed again i hope i get mine end of this month
Z790 wifi ddr4 with intel 13600 kf shall i go through it?
If you still have the board, what is your CPU Vcore as measured by HWInfo in Cyberpunk after ~10 minutes of driving around the city. Current, Avg and Max. (Reset the counter after you get ingame so you dont get idle or game bootup vcore) aswell as in Cinebench R23.
Hello mate,
I wanna ask you is there any difference between
Msi pro z790 wifi ddr5 and
Msi pro z790 wifi pro series ddr5
Do you prefer the 13900k or 7950x? I’m debating on what to get to go with the 7900xtx when it launches.
I actually prefer AMD to be honest. Yes it isn't the best and can't match the i9 but the cooling give better ease of mind and for gaming it is definitely better IMO.
@@GLITCHEDZA awesome!! I will definitely be going amd then. Would you by chance still recommend the x670e-e strix mobo? I’m looking at that now and the asus crosshair hero.
@@Sl0th150 I reviewed the X670E and thought it was great. Would definitely recommend it. Also, check out, I did the Gigabyte X670E master mobo too. Both great boards
just got this board for a 13700kf + 4070ti build
Did it work out of the box? I am building the same this weekend with Corsair Vengeance 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL36 and Noctua DH-15
Wondering if I need to M-flash?
@@roneten110 worked perfect on startup!
Fingers crossed for me too, just waiting on my RAM then I'm putting her together (=
It worked out of the box for me last weekend@@garyafterlife
Yo tengo exactamente esa misma placa y es genial!
Why would you need an PCIE 5.0 SSD for gaming over a PCIE 5.0 GPU?
How do I turn the wifi on for the board? When I installed my windows it didn’t grab any drivers like it should’ve and idk what to do
Why can't I see if the board has any LEDs on?
I’m not sure if anyone is still on these videos but I’m trying to make a pc for the first time and I was wondering if my parts are equal in power or if one of them or too powerful for the others or not enough: this motherboard, i5-13600K, rtx 3060
Those are some great parts.
How many argb fans does it support with 3pin 5v?
I can’t find my sata drive in win11 but it in bios. Any ides?
is this mobo okay for 13900kf? iam planning to buy one...
Question regarding the WiFi adapter, the two string-like cables , are these supposed to be connected to anything?
They connect at the back of the motherboard. You will screw them onto the two gold circular pins near the USB ports.
I have this motherboard however I can’t connect to the internet with Ethernet nor wifi. I updated bios and still no progress. Can anyone help
Have you updated the Lan Drivers from the msi website?
Did you figure it out? I’m having the same exact problem right now.
Some insight would help me a bunch I’m really struggling
@@reecewatts5210 Honestly I returned it, I tried everything I could find on the internet and nothing worked so I ended up getting another motherboard. Sorry that I couldn't help/
@@afatfly3956hey mate, may you tell me what mobo did you take then
Looking for a contact frame for this board, 14700k runs hot
Which power supply works ? 4x 8 pin needed ?
It has 2 8 pin connectors but unless you're pulling more than 300 watts on the CPU you don't need the second 8 pin connector. I'm running this board with a 12600kf and I only use one of the 8 pin connectors, the second is mostly for the top CPUs and even then it's still enough if you're not overclocking- that's mainly what the second 8 pin connector is for (each can pull 300 so you can potentially run a CPU at 600 watts if you have the right PSU, which is kinda nuts, my current PSU is only 500 watts!
What do you mean by ''this is not a gaming motherboard'' ? I want to buy this with i5-13600KF and RTX 3070 8GB so everything will be alright ?
You can easily game on it but there are dedicated gaming motherboards that might be better than this. This specific one is more targetted to general use.
@@GLITCHEDZA This is the only mobo that I can buy right now so yeah. I saw someone pair rtx 3090 with this mobo so I guess I'm alright.
@@GLITCHEDZA No such thing as a "gaming" board though. What more expensive boards offer: Built in I/O shield, "better" audio codec (still shit compared to a $30 soundcard or external dac) RGB, HIgher Phase Count (meaningless), bigger VRM coolers, may support higher DDR5 speeds but even then getting >7000mhz stable on RaptorLake is difficult and more heatsinks for M2.
I’m using it with a 4080 OC and an i7-13700KF and 5600 DDR 5.. everything works as it should
Am i blind? Where are the other M.2 slots? I see the one under the PCIE slot with the heatsink. But where are the other ones? someone please help lol
This one or ASRock Sonic?
But all z790 boards support Raptor Lake (Intel 13) out of the box so i dont understand that argument that you need to update bios before you can do so?
The CPU isn't the issue really. It is the lack of RAM support. When I first installed everything it would not boot up. Not sure if this was RAM or CPU but previously, I built DDR 5 RAM PCs which did not work unless the BIOS was updated to support the RAM.
@@GLITCHEDZA Everything I'm seeing says this is DDR4 board. Am I missing something?
@@masterchriswong There is a DDR4 version and a DDR5 version. Exact same name. Just DDR4 and DDR5.
Does it have a thunderbolt header?
What would you recommend instead of this? GIGABYTE AORUS ELITE?
No I would say the Aorus Elite tbh. Especially if you want a more gaming-focused motherboard.
Does it only supports ddr5?
it works well with i7 14th and 4070?
Did you find the answer?
Any one can tell does it supports argb or not
2:25 .. pikachu wasted!
I’m running this board with intel i5 12600k, AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT Phantom Gaming, vetroo v5 cpu cooler, Western Digital 1TB WD Blue SN570 NVMe, trident Z will I need to update the bios with build?
Where’s the CMOS IN THIS LOTHERBOARD
Just got this motherboard and 12400 processor. Pc wont start. You think i need usb drive also with new bios on it to make it start
did it work?
Question I'm not great with building I got a pc on black Friday it has MSI Z790-P with a Rtx 4080 and iteIntel® Core™ i7-13700KF 13thgen was this a bad idea ?
I got one too with this motherboard and i9-13900kf with the 4090 so shouldnt be a problem worst case scenario if youre not happy with the build send it back for me if this board causes problems ill just swap mother boards
@@Akdave2020 @masked are u guys happy with this board?im planning to get this one as well.asus boards has issues with xmp even the rog series
does it not say on the box that 13th gen processers like the i5 13600k is supported? why would we have to bios update it. Could u please explain how to update bios on this motherboard aswell?
Here's a link to download the BIOS files. It also explains how to put it on a USB, go into the BIOs settings at boot and install the update. Sadly, MSi dropped the ball with the motherboard by not including a Q-Flash USB in the box. It is quite simple to update though . www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-P-WIFI-DDR4/support
@@GLITCHEDZA thank you and the thing is that I orderd a i5 13600k and got the MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4, Intel ATX LGA 1700 and im stressing quite a bit because im confused on the bios process and if I would even have to do it. Thank you
@@tempest8044 Did have to do a bios update or was the CPU recognized right out of the box?
@@poppyonepug1 it worked perfectly fine, the thing is with this motherboard is that it should support every 13th gen right out of the box
@@tempest8044 it does support it out of the box, what are you talking about?
I recently upgraded to this board with a 13700kf for my GPU. Now the problem is when I put in my 3 M.2 one of them doesn't want to pop up? Is there a fix for this? Does the motherboard allow this?
Dude am i nuts or what? Im looking at this board and literally only see the one m.2 drive location... I see the one with the heatsink under the GPU PCIE slot, but don't see the other ones through image. Where are the other M.2 Slots located? or do they stack?
@@Jacksongamma one is below yhe one with th heat sink then another below that one then the final one is on the right hand side
what region are you in?
South Africa
Can anyone tell me what usb slot i need to put a flash drive in to update bios
why so expensive? I got it under 200 eur
Prices have dropped since this video was published :)
Hey, I have the MSI MPG z790 Edge wifi Motherboard (2022), is the new Samsung 990 Pro SSD compatible?
That board doesn't have a dedicated Gen5 SSD slot so you can get an Edge Card and use the GPU PCI-E 5 slot and put your GPU into a PCIE 4 slot (if you don't have a 40-series GPU). Or you can just use the Samsung 990 Pro in the Gen4 slots. It will bottleneck the speed but it will still be hella fast.
@@GLITCHEDZA I do have a rtx 4090. I am trying to build my first pc, i got this motherboard, but this will bottleneck the performance? Im confused. But overall this ssd will work with this motherboard(?)
@@SDGRTX1455 Yes the Samsung 990 Pro is a Gen5 SSD so wont' run at its full potential on the PCIE 4 slot. But I don't think the speed difference will be drastic. Rather use the RTX 4090 in the PCIE 5 slot and the SSD in the M.2 slot. Basically, everything you have will work but ideally, you would want to use a motherboard with Gen 5 for both the SSD and the GPU to get the most out of it.
@@GLITCHEDZA This motherboard is Gen 5 if i not mistaken. Quite confusing xD This is why when i have all the components together, will let someone else let it build it for me. Just want to know the best recommendation before buying
@@SDGRTX1455 Haha the latest stuff is quite confusing. Just know that Gen5 comes in various forms. You get Gen5 for both PCIE and M.2 SSD slots. Some boards only have Gen5 slots for M.2 and some only have Gen5 for PCIE. Some have both. The board you have only has Gen5 PCIE so your 40-series will work fine. The SSD you have is made for Gen5 M.2. It will work on Gen4 ( M.2 (the slot you have) but will be slower.
Not a fan of the m2 lockers
Hi, I was planning to buy the ---> MSI PRO Z790-P WIFI DDR4 ATX
I'm just wondering if this mother board I can fit my old CPU & GPU on it.. I currently has:
CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
GPU NVIDIA GeForce GT 545
I would like to get a Mother Board that I can upgrade my CPU to i9 by next year & GPU to something powerful
I would appreciate if you could help me decide please?
Unfortunately, the CPU you have are quite old and won't work on this motherboard. This board is made for a 12th or 13th Gen Intel CPU. I would suggest waiting until you have the cash to get the CPU and motherboard in one go. Else you'll be sitting with a motherboard and no CPU. The GPU will work but it will be constrained by the performance of PCIE 4 on this board. So basically, you'll need the CPU and motherboard first. The GPU will work but definitely upgrade it later on to a PCIE 4 card.
@@GLITCHEDZA Thanks Mate for advice :)
I've put together a new pc spec for myself I wonder if you don't mind giving me an advice on what you think .. if yes I will go for it. if you think something of my choice is wrong please advice :
1- MSI MPG Z790 EDGE WIFI DDR4 Motherboard ATX - Supports Intel Core 12/13th Gen Processors, LGA 1700, DDR4 Boost (5333+MHz/OC), 1 x PCIe 5.0 x16, 1 x PCIe 4.0 x4, 5 x M.2 Gen4, 2.5Gbps LAN, Wi-Fi 6E
2- Thermaltake Smart RGB 80+ White 700W, Power Supply UK spec, 5 YEARS WARRANTY, Black
3- Intel Core13th Gen i7-13700F Desktop Processor (16 Core (8 P-Core + 8 E-Core), 30 MB Cache, up to 5.2 GHz, LGA1700)
4- Samsung 990 PRO 1TB PCIe 4.0 (up to 7450 MB/s) NVMe M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (MZ-V9P1T0BW)
5- Corsair 163301 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit, Black
6- MSI GeForce GTX 1650 D6 VENTUS XS OC Graphics Card '4GB GDDR6, 1620MHz, 128-bit, PCI Express x16 Gen 3, DisplayPort, HDMI, DVI-D, Dual Fan Cooling System'
Please if you think any of the above won't be compatible with other or has bad effect.. I would appreciate the advice.
@@modyghalyasi Hi! This looks all good. All the parts should work together. What cooler are you going to get? If it is a fan one, just make sure to upgrade it later down the line to a liquid cooler version if you are able to. These 13th-gen CPUs run very hot.
@@GLITCHEDZA Great, so this PC would give me a performance I need for memory wise? or do you think I should go for 64gb memory and down grade something else?
@@modyghalyasi I don't think 64GB is needed tbh. Unless you're doing heavy production content that requires that.
Bit clumsy putting that CPU in ...🫣
What is this used for
Can amd be used
No this is an Intel board sadly. You'll need to get the AMD equivalent.
Fuck bro I just bought it on ebay and then came to watch this and now Im like “f*ck” I bought it for gaming
did you end up keeping it? how has it performed?
@@MrHeart12 To be honest I cant compare it to others but I can play all the games I want and they run amazing. I have i7 13700k, 32gb 6000mhz, and a rtx 4080
@@AdrianGE98 thats pretty much what i will be running with it as well. thanks for the info.
Few motherboards are going to necessarily get in the way of gaming. There are much more important factors that go into gaming performance. The least of which is the MOBO
ese modelo es conpatible con amd por eso dice error
5:14 mine comes in sunday and i have the I7-13700k, how will i need to download the bios? please be descriptive
www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-P-WIFI-DDR4/support
@@GLITCHEDZA do i just download it on to a usb stick and put it in the pc?
@@cosmicking7979 Yes you download the update extract it from the zip file, put it onto the USB, plug it in. You need to boot the PC up and press delete to enter the BIOS settings. There, you'll find an option to update the BIOS. It will show you the USB file contents, go through the files and find the update you copied. Let it install.
@@GLITCHEDZA thanks! hope you have a good day🙃
@@cosmicking7979 did you figure it out? I’m having the same problem. I fixed it but now it’s not picking up a network adapter and I can’t connect to internet.
This board is a giant turd, unstable AF with a 14700k. The default settings are garbage.