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hi i have a question im building my first pc i bought a msi z790 edge wifi the box says it supports 13th gen will i still need to update before building my pc?
@@esmerodriguez4030 hard to say for sure. The board may support it but need updates to the BIOS. What you can do is look on the support page for the site and see if the CPU you are going to be using is supported and what BIOS is required. It should be under the compatibility section of the support page for your motherboard. I know for mine it is under the Results column and will show a zip file name which that name shows the BIOS version.
You are the only dude that got this whole process right, no one else ever stated I had to change the name of the file to MSI.ROM I wasted 2 hours of my life because other people and MSI are TROLLING pc builders.
Seconded. No one explained that to me and after hours of trying I stumbled across this video, the fans sound into action for the first time and I already knew we was on to a winner. Cheers
No one trolled you lol, Your trying to flash your BOIS either without a CPU or without a compatible CPU, the MSI Video and other videos are designed to teach people who want to Update BOIS using already compatible software, Hence why when the do it the Download on the same PC where they are updating.
You included some crucial steps other guides left out, pulling the file to the top level and renaming it, keeping the PC turned off while doing it, letting it sit for a bit. In the middle of my update now. Thanks for a thorough guide!
I cant believe MSI even leaves out those steps, been stuck for a couple days now and watched a lot of videos and articles then this guy comes in like a boss. nicely done making a perfect video +respect
Wow im so glad I found this video before attempting it. Im still confused though about whether to power on my pc via psu to do the first bios update? I have everything in the tower fully put together, I just haven't turned it on yet cuz im worried about messing something up so I wanna get my steps in order and give myself best odds at doing it right first time. Should I start the pc at least once b4 doing my bios update? Do I turn my psu power on when doing bios update cuz I got everything connected so im confused about that.
Just wanted to say thanks for this guide! Very helpful as I was going through this process for the first time. Had to use a second USB stick, as the first one didn't work, but once I did that it was smooth sailing!
Dude!!!! Thank you! After toiling over my MOBO manual and other online posts, your video finally told me the info I needed. Everything else I looked at left out/didn't explain in detail the need to pull the file to the top directory or the need to not turn the PC on before you press the Flash BIOS button. You are an absolute lifesaver. Wish I could give you more than just a like and a sub.
Thank you for this video! It had been quite a few years since I built a PC and I was getting all turned around with the tons of forum posts out there. I'm 'flashed' and up and running now. And you are 'liked' and 'subscribed'!
I never realize you could do this, this is really a lifesaver for when you get motherboards that may not support the newest CPUs that need a BIOS update but you don't have another older CPU to put in there to get the update. I got a brand new MSI motherboard for my new build and I did this exact same procedure thanks to this video and everything updated and worked perfectly.
Not done a build in years, had been ripping my hair out trying to figure out why I couldn't post. You sir have saved me from rage quitting tonight. Kudos to you
Thank you so much! Better than MSI's video on the topic. First time building a PC and didn't want to bother with BIOS by the time I got everything up and running. Or at least not as much.
Not too shabby of a video. I am building out a new PC using the MSI MPG Z790 Carbon and will be using an I9=13900 Raptor (13th Gen) CPU. Even though the board states 12/13th Gen ready, I decided to flash the BIOS after looking that the BIOS update frequency on MSI's support page for the motherboard, every couple of months. Typically motherboards don't have the latest firmware revision, and depending the particular scenario, it may or may not matter if you first flash it before inserting the CPU, RAM, etc. The only time I would think it would necessary is if you're installing a new gen of CPU, then having the current BIOS revision would matter. I just put the MB on the box, hooked up the motherboard power cable, and only used one CPU power cable, even though there are 2 CPU power connect ports -- I'll use both when I'm assembling it into my tower case. A few points to mention: - I used an older USB 2.0 thumb drive that lights up when being accessed that way I can tell if the motherboard flashing process is accessing it. A USB 3.0 would probably work too. Make sure to format it with FAT32. - After downloading the appropriate BIOS update file from MSI's website, make sure you Extract All (uncompress) the .zip file. Then I would recommend to look in File Explorer at the View settings tab, and make sure Details, File name extensions are ticked. - Fully rename the uncompressed BIOS update file to MSI.ROM and copy it to the now formatted, empty USB drive. - There is a USB port labeled on my motherboard for MFLASH which is where I inserted the USB drive into. - I powered on the PSU, verified the motherboard had power and then pressed the labeled Flash BIOS button. It started blinking and I also noticed the USB drive was being accessed. - Ultimately the LED for the Flash BIOS button stopped blinking and went off. Total time took around 6 to 7 minutes of time. I won't know for 100% certainty if it it worked until I get my system fully assembled and a monitor hooked up -- still waiting on the CPU to show up, but I'm assuming the processes did work.
Bought a new motherboard, MSI Pro Z690-a WiFi DDR4, and after all assembly a red burning LED on the mourning board. After a lot of searching, I came to you very helpful video. After seeing, done as you describe and the problems were solved. I never thought of this. Certainly not with just the motherboard.🥰
Tysm dude, i was strugling so much with this. This is my first time building a pc and my mobo is 690series msi mobo and my cpu is 13th gen even tho supported needs still bios update to work and ive been scartching my head allday how to do it and watching videos about it and now finally i see the bios flash button light flashing.
Thank you brother, you saved my life. I wrote MSI ROM from other people, I tried different situations, it didn't work, only the point you put together solved the problem. MSI.ROM, thank you. Thank you.
i've finished building my pc yesterday at around midnight and for the past 12 hours I have been trying to install windows and/or to update my bios i have 2 hours of sleep I'm extremly tired but thanks to you I've finally made some progress and I might be able to download windows soon ! (I'm having a lot of issue and I'm trying every single solution out there wish me luck)
well, even if this doesnt work, youve earned a sub. ive tried for 2 days to get this process to work, found your video by chance, and youre the only one ive had tell me to lay the file out that way, everyone else just says unzip it and rename it, not pull the individual bios file and rename it. and when i hit the button, it flashed like always, but the file transfer light on the usb came on this time and a diag light on the board came on thats never come on before. cheers man, thanks
First build. Was running into issues. This vid helped me realize that the zip was not the file I was suppose to rename... I needed to extract it first. Thank you!!!
This was a very helpful video thank you! For me, after the bios button stopped blinking and the MOBO went thru a couple power cycles...some lights and fans continued to stay on and never shutoff.
Belated thank you for this video. Same mobo and I was having some trouble going off a different video. Followed your process steps by the letter and got everything to work. Thank you and subscribed.
@Kleebz Tech thanks again. Quick note, it rebooted my mobo so ended up flashing the bios again because I thought it should turn it off after the flash. So I reflashed it again, saw the light flashing, saw the reboot, and left it running it several mins before turning the psu off. Will build the rig tonight with the kiddo and report back if I run into any issues.
Just be certain that when it reboots it's not doing some other sort of update. I have run into cases where after flashing the BIOS it goes into another update process on boot before getting to the bios.
Does the USB light flash? I prefer USB with a light so I can tell if it is being accessed. If it only flashes for a few seconds then stops usually means it didn't like what it sees.
@@KLEEBZTECH I finally did it lol. I used 6 different USB drives and it actually finally worked with a micro SD card into an adapter wtf lol. Thanks for your replies and guidance. You’ve helped tons of people. Edit: and yeah the flashing was exactly what you mentioned. When the light stayed solid it usually meant it failed.
Thanks, this helped a lot. Especially when my USB drive did not work. Tried flashing three times and just got flashing for a few seconds then everything turned off. Tried another USB stick and it work perfectly. Cheers!
Cant remember if this was in the video but i changed the allocation to 4096 for my flash drive, it did not work before this. Thanks for the quick tutorial!
I have tried multiple different allocation options and doesn't seem to be a factor as far as I can tell. Sometimes just a reformat is enough for it to work.
Really appreciate the video - thank you:) I never updated the bios before I inserted all the components (including a new 13th gen i7) on my new Z690 Edge WIFI DDR 4 and keep getting a red CPU light blinking. Could not updating the bios be the issue? If so, should I remove all the components before I do the update? At the end of your video you say to not turn on the power if all the components are on the motherboard. Cheers
You could look on the support page to find out if that CPU was not supported by early versions and might give you a clue but that is a good possibility. You do not need to remove the components. Just turn on the power supply but do not boot the computer at any point. You will just have the power supply in the on position so when you push the Flash BIOS button it will do the update.
Can you update the bios if you have already installed the processor and don't want to go through the trouble of uninstalling it? Does it matter if the processor is installed or not?
It can be done either way. Just be sure not to boot up the computer at any point. The power supply needs to be switched into the on position. When you press the button it will power up the board somewhat.
Hello, This was a great tutorial and process explaining everything but I have came up with a problem so basically I used the usb I got with my motherboard and that usb made the motherboard turn on and there’s a red light flashing where the USB ports are I can see it through the side kind of so I’m not sure if it’s not working or not but after 7 minutes the lights all turn off and then turn back on except for the flashing red lights and my motherboard still has a red dot next to cpu so I’m not sure what to do now as well as I tried another usb that I got from Best Buy and I asked them if it would work with my pc and they said it would but when I tried it sadly didn’t so now I’m very confused on what to do. I was wondering if you could give me a quick explanation on what I should do if your not sure I might have to take it to Best Buy, the reason I’m saying Best Buy is that my cousin works there and she said that they have a very good team that’s helpful with stuff like this so yea. But I don’t wanna keep spending money so I just wanna Finnish this myself.
Sent my original mobo back for bios boot loop and was nervous about doing this to the new one (MSI MPG X570s edge wifi) - 5 hours no progress; most if not all post left out a few critical parts that you included in your video. Clear instructions, although slightly different from mine - still great. Used a friends computer to get the bios update, followed your instruction and I’m now mid way through the update (at least I think). It stated itself up after the 3 second press followed but the flashes on the bios button, about 5 mins and it shut down, but booted back up. I’m leaving it as is until it does something else lol. still having boot issues tho, specifically cpu ez debug led. Hong cpu isn’t toast all of a sudden, would be my luck tho 😅
@@SolidNatePhones RMA the board if possible - I’d do the same for your cpu - it’s usually a pretty accurate indication the cpu itself is the issue, before you go tinkering and potentially cause more damage I’d consider trying a totally different cpu altogether - you can sometimes call the manufacturer and explain to them the situation, hopefully they send you one of their low end cpus to test for free - also if make sure to tell them to update the bios for you before sending back the new/repaired mobo
Is it normal for this to take longer than an hour? I’ve followed all the steps seemed to work but the light still haven’t gone out in about an hour now
I have an MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI motherboard. I have the CPU, Ram, unformatted new m.2 hard drive, and case fans attached. I followed your instructions, and when I pressed the Flash Bios Button, it began flashing, along with the light on the USB drive, and all of the case fans lit up, and began spinning. After a few minutes, the Flash Bios Button stopped flashing, as did the USB drive, but everything else is still on, including the yellow and red lights that are on during bootup, and there is a C5 code showing on the board. I'll leave it alone for an hour or two to see if anything changes.
thank you! So it will be fine to isntall the unsupported cpu in the motherboard, complete the pc build and do this after? It won't do any damagae to the motherboard or cpu?
Should be good. Although I personally would do the update before if you can. Only reason being is if you have problems doing it it and the motherboard needs to be returned because it is defective or something you won't have to disassemble the PC
Do you have to do it this way.. or can you have all this downloaded onto the flash drive "as shown" and use it in the new motherboard usb input as your starting it up for the first time?
"If you are doing this with everything already connected you do not wanna power up the PC at this point"? Why? How can I flash the bios if I am not powering up the PC? I have RAM and SSD and CPU installed. What am i supposed to do? When am I supposed to be turn on that PSU? Or do you mean powering on with the actual on-button on the PC (case)?
Struggling with this process right now. MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi and AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D. I was warned that I would most likely need to update the bios for compatibility with the CPU. Following these steps precisely, repeatedly, all I get is a white blinking light that never seems to end. Goes well past the 5-7 minute estimated timeframe. I’ve also got the red CPU and yellow DRAM LED Debug lights lit up on my motherboard.
Heya, nice vid! It is specific and yet to the point, which I like. I'm thinking of building a pc with an MSI MAG H670 Tomahawk Wifi DDR4 (it has a Flash BIOS button based on the manual). So once it updates to the latest BIOS using this version it should be able to run a 13th Gen CPU out of the box right? Asking because I'm worried I might run into some issues where a 12th Gen CPU might still be required (and I don't have access to one unless I buy it). Some motherboards (like the Gigabyte B660M Aorus Elite AX DDR4 BIOS version F20) requires an Intel VMD Driver update, otherwise the system might crash with the 13th Gen CPU, which isn't cool.
If you want to be sure I would look on their support page for that motherboard and see if any of the BIOS updates added support for 13th Gen. If it does you should be good.
Unfortunately, I could not use the FLASH button on the back of the mainboard. I had to take a USB stick and connect it to the computer (format it to FAT32), then I downloaded the file from the MSI website under BIOS files. I unzipped the zip folder and loaded it onto the USB stick without renaming it. Then I went into the BIOS under M-Flash and selected my USB stick with the file on it. (MSI B550 Gaming Plus)
I noticed that there are other videos that bring up MBR vs GPT for the formatting, but does it actually matter on modern setups of Windows 10 and later?
It is possible to do it on a larger USB but that requires more complexity and less reliability. You can create a smaller partition on the USB drive to get around that. And there are other ways but Windows will not format FAT32 on anything larger than 32.
It is a test bench. You can find them in many places like Amazon. They are designed to make it easy to work on systems without needing to be in a case.
Worked perfectly now let's hope the infamous red cpu amber ezdebug goes away. Otherwise I'm stuck with this 2grand new build till MSI tech support is open
When it comes to choosing the latest update, you are talking about the latest non-beta update, right? For my motherboard, there are two betas that have been released sooner but the latest non-beta update was released back in '19.
Usually I would avoid beta unless there is specifically something in that update you need. Usually you don't need to update the BIOS unless there's a specific reason
Does this guide also apply to the MSI Mag X570S Tomahawk Max Wifi? It does look like the back of the motherboard is super similar to yours, just want to check. Do I need to rename the ROM file in this case on an AMD motherboard as you did on your Intel one?
If you have the BIOS flashback button then it would apply. The process is the same for all MSI boards that I am aware of. Yes you need to rename if using this method.
Great video - but scary, as my USB drive doesn't have an activity LED. Apart from the use case when the BIOS needs to be flashed to support the CPU, is there any reason not to use a CPU + the M-Flash UI in BIOS instead? Thank you.
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hi i have a question im building my first pc i bought a msi z790 edge wifi the box says it supports 13th gen will i still need to update before building my pc?
@@esmerodriguez4030 hard to say for sure. The board may support it but need updates to the BIOS. What you can do is look on the support page for the site and see if the CPU you are going to be using is supported and what BIOS is required. It should be under the compatibility section of the support page for your motherboard. I know for mine it is under the Results column and will show a zip file name which that name shows the BIOS version.
Awesome vid but is it the same steps if Windows is already installed ??
@@davidjames4583 same either new or not.
should i put everything in my pc . like build it and not connect my monitor yet before doing the bios
You are the only dude that got this whole process right, no one else ever stated I had to change the name of the file to MSI.ROM I wasted 2 hours of my life because other people and MSI are TROLLING pc builders.
Glad to have helped. If only before you wasted the 2 hours. Funny thing is that someone else questioned that step just the other day on here.
Seconded. No one explained that to me and after hours of trying I stumbled across this video, the fans sound into action for the first time and I already knew we was on to a winner. Cheers
If i have a asus mainboard i have to name it asus.rom?
@@twitch_freshd18 You should name it asses.rom (look up funny video about ASUS laptop involving two women in a bar) :D
No one trolled you lol, Your trying to flash your BOIS either without a CPU or without a compatible CPU, the MSI Video and other videos are designed to teach people who want to Update BOIS using already compatible software, Hence why when the do it the Download on the same PC where they are updating.
This guide is infinitely more useful than MSI's sad explanation of their own function, thank you
You included some crucial steps other guides left out, pulling the file to the top level and renaming it, keeping the PC turned off while doing it, letting it sit for a bit. In the middle of my update now. Thanks for a thorough guide!
Thanks. Always worry I missed something.
I cant believe MSI even leaves out those steps, been stuck for a couple days now and watched a lot of videos and articles then this guy comes in like a boss. nicely done making a perfect video +respect
Wow im so glad I found this video before attempting it. Im still confused though about whether to power on my pc via psu to do the first bios update? I have everything in the tower fully put together, I just haven't turned it on yet cuz im worried about messing something up so I wanna get my steps in order and give myself best odds at doing it right first time. Should I start the pc at least once b4 doing my bios update? Do I turn my psu power on when doing bios update cuz I got everything connected so im confused about that.
@@CantTreadOnMeyou don't power it on
X670E. Powered on by itself after holding flash button. It shut itself down and rebooted after about 3-5 minutes.
Just wanted to say thanks for this guide! Very helpful as I was going through this process for the first time. Had to use a second USB stick, as the first one didn't work, but once I did that it was smooth sailing!
Great to hear! Yeah those USB drives can be a pain.
You ARE A GOAT!!!! 10 hours of trying to figure out from other content creators on this. You are just a GOAT!
Actually my goat Tego was the GOAT. 😉
This video, and all the comments you've been leaving below, have been extremely helpful! Perfectly straight-forward information. Love it! Thank you!
You are very welcome.
I had so many problems to get into my bios. with this it was a piece of cake. thank you buddy!
You are very welcome. 👍
Dude!!!! Thank you! After toiling over my MOBO manual and other online posts, your video finally told me the info I needed. Everything else I looked at left out/didn't explain in detail the need to pull the file to the top directory or the need to not turn the PC on before you press the Flash BIOS button. You are an absolute lifesaver. Wish I could give you more than just a like and a sub.
This is my first build. So I’m starting with the bios update. Seems simple enough. Great video.
First-time builder here ! I'm putting bios and Windows 10 OEM Pro 64-bit on 2 different USB drives.
Thank you for this video! It had been quite a few years since I built a PC and I was getting all turned around with the tons of forum posts out there. I'm 'flashed' and up and running now. And you are 'liked' and 'subscribed'!
Very welcome!
I never realize you could do this, this is really a lifesaver for when you get motherboards that may not support the newest CPUs that need a BIOS update but you don't have another older CPU to put in there to get the update. I got a brand new MSI motherboard for my new build and I did this exact same procedure thanks to this video and everything updated and worked perfectly.
Thanks mate. After many videos ive watched on you tube. You answered my question in the first 12 seconds. Top video mate.
Glad I could help 👍
Not done a build in years, had been ripping my hair out trying to figure out why I couldn't post. You sir have saved me from rage quitting tonight. Kudos to you
Alas, I'm still getting the same red light.. new usb, try again 😅
Did you get it updated?
@@KLEEBZTECH Nope, turns out my board was DoA, had to get a replacement aha. But all issues are now resolved and I can breathe happy again
Thank you so much! Better than MSI's video on the topic. First time building a PC and didn't want to bother with BIOS by the time I got everything up and running. Or at least not as much.
Not too shabby of a video. I am building out a new PC using the MSI MPG Z790 Carbon and will be using an I9=13900 Raptor (13th Gen) CPU. Even though the board states 12/13th Gen ready, I decided to flash the BIOS after looking that the BIOS update frequency on MSI's support page for the motherboard, every couple of months. Typically motherboards don't have the latest firmware revision, and depending the particular scenario, it may or may not matter if you first flash it before inserting the CPU, RAM, etc. The only time I would think it would necessary is if you're installing a new gen of CPU, then having the current BIOS revision would matter. I just put the MB on the box, hooked up the motherboard power cable, and only used one CPU power cable, even though there are 2 CPU power connect ports -- I'll use both when I'm assembling it into my tower case.
A few points to mention:
- I used an older USB 2.0 thumb drive that lights up when being accessed that way I can tell if the motherboard flashing process is accessing it. A USB 3.0 would probably work too. Make sure to format it with FAT32.
- After downloading the appropriate BIOS update file from MSI's website, make sure you Extract All (uncompress) the .zip file. Then I would recommend to look in File Explorer at the View settings tab, and make sure Details, File name extensions are ticked.
- Fully rename the uncompressed BIOS update file to MSI.ROM and copy it to the now formatted, empty USB drive.
- There is a USB port labeled on my motherboard for MFLASH which is where I inserted the USB drive into.
- I powered on the PSU, verified the motherboard had power and then pressed the labeled Flash BIOS button. It started blinking and I also noticed the USB drive was being accessed.
- Ultimately the LED for the Flash BIOS button stopped blinking and went off. Total time took around 6 to 7 minutes of time.
I won't know for 100% certainty if it it worked until I get my system fully assembled and a monitor hooked up -- still waiting on the CPU to show up, but I'm assuming the processes did work.
And did it work?
Definitely the most helpful video on this topic. Absolutely great! 👍🏻
Bought a new motherboard, MSI Pro Z690-a WiFi DDR4, and after all assembly a red burning LED on the mourning board. After a lot of searching, I came to you very helpful video. After seeing, done as you describe and the problems were solved. I never thought of this. Certainly not with just the motherboard.🥰
Good to hear it worked for you. 👍
Works on AM5 with install processor & etc. No need to restart Flash boot many times and get black screen again and again. Man you are the best!
Did it fix black screens for you ? Because sometimes my pc boots sometimes it don’t i tried cmos reset everything
My god you’re a life saver, been trying for hours to see what’s wrong with my bios update. I kept turning on my pc
That would make things more difficult for sure. lol. Glad you got it all figured out.
Tysm dude, i was strugling so much with this. This is my first time building a pc and my mobo is 690series msi mobo and my cpu is 13th gen even tho supported needs still bios update to work and ive been scartching my head allday how to do it and watching videos about it and now finally i see the bios flash button light flashing.
The ONLY tutorial that actually worked! Thank you so much!!!! You are a life saver
You're welcome!
Thank you brother, you saved my life. I wrote MSI ROM from other people, I tried different situations, it didn't work, only the point you put together solved the problem. MSI.ROM, thank you. Thank you.
You are welcome
You need a full stop after MSI.
i've finished building my pc yesterday at around midnight and for the past 12 hours I have been trying to install windows and/or to update my bios i have 2 hours of sleep I'm extremly tired but thanks to you I've finally made some progress and I might be able to download windows soon ! (I'm having a lot of issue and I'm trying every single solution out there wish me luck)
this was by far the most helpful video I found for this process. Liked and subbed.
Glad it helped!
Amazing video. The z690 manual doesn’t tell all of these steps. Thanks man. Keep it up!
Yeah they don't give lots of details. Thanks for the feedback.
This video literally described every little step goddamn good job
Thanks!
well, even if this doesnt work, youve earned a sub. ive tried for 2 days to get this process to work, found your video by chance, and youre the only one ive had tell me to lay the file out that way, everyone else just says unzip it and rename it, not pull the individual bios file and rename it. and when i hit the button, it flashed like always, but the file transfer light on the usb came on this time and a diag light on the board came on thats never come on before. cheers man, thanks
Hope it all worked!
This is the best video out there, every time I do update my bios I use your method, thanks and GOD BLESS YOU!!!
You're welcome!
This guide helped me. A 4GB drive was accepted. A 32gb NOT with fat32
Thank you for this. This is exactly what I was looking for and was able to flash my bios thanks to your video specifically. Subsribed.
Glad to hear. And thanks for subscribing. But don't worry if you change your mind since our content has changed to more AI focused content.
Absolutely brilliant video. Made my b450 bios update a breeze. Thank you!
Im subscribing due to this exact video. Explained everything and made it simple . Thank you !
First build. Was running into issues. This vid helped me realize that the zip was not the file I was suppose to rename... I needed to extract it first. Thank you!!!
You are very welcome. Often times it's the little details we overlook. Good luck on the build!
@@KLEEBZTECHagree. Need those details.
This was a very helpful video thank you! For me, after the bios button stopped blinking and the MOBO went thru a couple power cycles...some lights and fans continued to stay on and never shutoff.
Thanks! You made this process so easy for me. Awesome explanation
You're welcome!
Belated thank you for this video. Same mobo and I was having some trouble going off a different video. Followed your process steps by the letter and got everything to work. Thank you and subscribed.
Thanks. This helped me update my bios for new rig which I am building with my 8 years old. Merry Christmas!
Love it! Start them while they are young. Merry Christmas!
@Kleebz Tech thanks again. Quick note, it rebooted my mobo so ended up flashing the bios again because I thought it should turn it off after the flash. So I reflashed it again, saw the light flashing, saw the reboot, and left it running it several mins before turning the psu off. Will build the rig tonight with the kiddo and report back if I run into any issues.
Just be certain that when it reboots it's not doing some other sort of update. I have run into cases where after flashing the BIOS it goes into another update process on boot before getting to the bios.
Hi, just wanted to say cheers for posting this vid.👍
By far, it's the best video. Thank you!
You're very welcome!
Thanks a million for this short and helpful video , just now done with updating bios
Thank you ❤
I found this very helpful. Now give me a year to save up for the 4090, mobo, and cpu so I can remember how to do this process 🤣
I would love a 4090... 😀
@KLEEBZTECH Wait till Q4 this year brotha. We will have our chance for an adorable and bad ass gpu
Just want to say thank you as a noob to pc's in general you made this incredibly easy! 👌👌👌👌
You're very welcome!
Thank you, great tutorial with step by step instructutions :)
You are welcome!
Very helpful thanks man!👌🏻
Glad it helped!
Thanks a million worked flawlessly first try
My 128mb usb was in FAT (not FAT32) and i had 3 blinks (error), thank you, man!
Couldnt be simpler or clearer. Thanks.
You're welcome!
Simple and awesome, better than the MSI video., GOD BLESS YOU!!!
In the middle of the process now. Best video by far. I actually have the bios flash light on my MB, will that turn off once it’s done? Cheers
Most likely although I have found all motherboards can behave slightly different.
@@KLEEBZTECH yeah I think mine keeps failing because I can’t find a usb drive that works. Light just stays on forever
Does the USB light flash? I prefer USB with a light so I can tell if it is being accessed. If it only flashes for a few seconds then stops usually means it didn't like what it sees.
@@KLEEBZTECH I finally did it lol. I used 6 different USB drives and it actually finally worked with a micro SD card into an adapter wtf lol. Thanks for your replies and guidance. You’ve helped tons of people.
Edit: and yeah the flashing was exactly what you mentioned. When the light stayed solid it usually meant it failed.
Good Video. All these steps are also explained in the Motherboard Manual.
Manual? Who reads manuals? 😂
Amazing video and easy-to-use, better than the MSI tutorial, GOD BLESS YOU!!!
Thanking you for your valuable information
Worked great with my B550M PRO-VDH WIFI. Thanks!!
Thank you. Realy helped me.
Solid advice. Thank you.
You bet!
super helpful thank you so much
You're welcome!
Excellent guide thx! I have the same board!
Welcome. Have not used this one yet. Seems like a decent board.
Thanks, this helped a lot. Especially when my USB drive did not work. Tried flashing three times and just got flashing for a few seconds then everything turned off. Tried another USB stick and it work perfectly. Cheers!
Perfectguide, thanks a lot!
You're welcome!
Cant remember if this was in the video but i changed the allocation to 4096 for my flash drive, it did not work before this. Thanks for the quick tutorial!
I have tried multiple different allocation options and doesn't seem to be a factor as far as I can tell. Sometimes just a reformat is enough for it to work.
@@KLEEBZTECH same flash drive and formatted each time, could be just a hiccup with this drive
Probably. But it does show how picky these things are.
😲my Bios keep on restarting & Restarting! Why & how to update Bios ! Video demo have ?
Really appreciate the video - thank you:) I never updated the bios before I inserted all the components (including a new 13th gen i7) on my new Z690 Edge WIFI DDR 4 and keep getting a red CPU light blinking. Could not updating the bios be the issue? If so, should I remove all the components before I do the update? At the end of your video you say to not turn on the power if all the components are on the motherboard. Cheers
You could look on the support page to find out if that CPU was not supported by early versions and might give you a clue but that is a good possibility. You do not need to remove the components. Just turn on the power supply but do not boot the computer at any point. You will just have the power supply in the on position so when you push the Flash BIOS button it will do the update.
Thanks so much@@KLEEBZTECH. After about 5 1/2 minutes, the BIOS update took care of the red CPU light and was good to go:)
Thanks so much! Saved my board
Just ordered This msi mpg z690 Force wifi with i7-13700kf hope i Make This work👌 Nice video
Thanks. Good luck with the build.
Appreciate you, bud!
Happy to help.
most complete guide on this topic. MSI may hide their video and hire you
Great video, thank u!
Better than MSI's guide, thank you!
You're welcome!
hey my guy, thank you so much! one question, can i leave the cpu in the socket for flashing the bios?
Yes.
Can you update the bios if you have already installed the processor and don't want to go through the trouble of uninstalling it? Does it matter if the processor is installed or not?
It can be done either way. Just be sure not to boot up the computer at any point. The power supply needs to be switched into the on position. When you press the button it will power up the board somewhat.
yes it was helpful👍🏻 Tank You
Hello, This was a great tutorial and process explaining everything but I have came up with a problem so basically I used the usb I got with my motherboard and that usb made the motherboard turn on and there’s a red light flashing where the USB ports are I can see it through the side kind of so I’m not sure if it’s not working or not but after 7 minutes the lights all turn off and then turn back on except for the flashing red lights and my motherboard still has a red dot next to cpu so I’m not sure what to do now as well as I tried another usb that I got from Best Buy and I asked them if it would work with my pc and they said it would but when I tried it sadly didn’t so now I’m very confused on what to do. I was wondering if you could give me a quick explanation on what I should do if your not sure I might have to take it to Best Buy, the reason I’m saying Best Buy is that my cousin works there and she said that they have a very good team that’s helpful with stuff like this so yea. But I don’t wanna keep spending money so I just wanna Finnish this myself.
Hey, great video and it is very specific with every step described, i just wanna know should i connect both CPU power to the motherboard ?
Probably should only need one to do the update.
@@KLEEBZTECH Thank you very much for ur answer
Sent my original mobo back for bios boot loop and was nervous about doing this to the new one (MSI MPG X570s edge wifi) - 5 hours no progress; most if not all post left out a few critical parts that you included in your video. Clear instructions, although slightly different from mine - still great. Used a friends computer to get the bios update, followed your instruction and I’m now mid way through the update (at least I think). It stated itself up after the 3 second press followed but the flashes on the bios button, about 5 mins and it shut down, but booted back up. I’m leaving it as is until it does something else lol. still having boot issues tho, specifically cpu ez debug led. Hong cpu isn’t toast all of a sudden, would be my luck tho 😅
Did u figure this out? I'm having the cpu led light issue and nothing on monitor
@@SolidNatePhones nah unfortunately my cpu seems to be toast; not sure that this works or doesn’t - sorry brotha
@@SolidNatePhones RMA the board if possible - I’d do the same for your cpu - it’s usually a pretty accurate indication the cpu itself is the issue, before you go tinkering and potentially cause more damage I’d consider trying a totally different cpu altogether - you can sometimes call the manufacturer and explain to them the situation, hopefully they send you one of their low end cpus to test for free - also if make sure to tell them to update the bios for you before sending back the new/repaired mobo
Is it normal for this to take longer than an hour? I’ve followed all the steps seemed to work but the light still haven’t gone out in about an hour now
At this point I would assume it may or may not have worked and just switch it off. I know others have had the similar problem
It shouldn't really take more than 15 minutes
I have an MSI MPG X670E CARBON WIFI motherboard. I have the CPU, Ram, unformatted new m.2 hard drive, and case fans attached. I followed your instructions, and when I pressed the Flash Bios Button, it began flashing, along with the light on the USB drive, and all of the case fans lit up, and began spinning. After a few minutes, the Flash Bios Button stopped flashing, as did the USB drive, but everything else is still on, including the yellow and red lights that are on during bootup, and there is a C5 code showing on the board. I'll leave it alone for an hour or two to see if anything changes.
thank you! So it will be fine to isntall the unsupported cpu in the motherboard, complete the pc build and do this after? It won't do any damagae to the motherboard or cpu?
Should be good. Although I personally would do the update before if you can. Only reason being is if you have problems doing it it and the motherboard needs to be returned because it is defective or something you won't have to disassemble the PC
@@KLEEBZTECH ok, I haven't installed anything yet, but will do it exactly as you've done in your video first. Thanks again!
ty!
why my cpu is turn on again?
What should I name the file for an Asus Rog Maximus Z690 Hero motherboard??
See our Asus video. ruclips.net/video/8tYXNe92JU0/видео.html
Do you have to do it this way.. or can you have all this downloaded onto the flash drive "as shown" and use it in the new motherboard usb input as your starting it up for the first time?
"If you are doing this with everything already connected you do not wanna power up the PC at this point"?
Why? How can I flash the bios if I am not powering up the PC? I have RAM and SSD and CPU installed.
What am i supposed to do?
When am I supposed to be turn on that PSU?
Or do you mean powering on with the actual on-button on the PC (case)?
You turn on the power switch for the power supply only so you have power to the board. Do not press the power button on the PC.
just tried this, its an agonizing wait for the bios to update 😅
I got everything right except I didn't drag the file out of the folder to the top level. Dang
Thanks you are the best
You are welcome.
Do i NEED to do this for z790 ddr5 with i5 13600k?
Struggling with this process right now. MSI B650 Tomahawk Wifi and AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D. I was warned that I would most likely need to update the bios for compatibility with the CPU. Following these steps precisely, repeatedly, all I get is a white blinking light that never seems to end. Goes well past the 5-7 minute estimated timeframe.
I’ve also got the red CPU and yellow DRAM LED Debug lights lit up on my motherboard.
Heya, nice vid! It is specific and yet to the point, which I like.
I'm thinking of building a pc with an MSI MAG H670 Tomahawk Wifi DDR4 (it has a Flash BIOS button based on the manual). So once it updates to the latest BIOS using this version it should be able to run a 13th Gen CPU out of the box right?
Asking because I'm worried I might run into some issues where a 12th Gen CPU might still be required (and I don't have access to one unless I buy it). Some motherboards (like the Gigabyte B660M Aorus Elite AX DDR4 BIOS version F20) requires an Intel VMD Driver update, otherwise the system might crash with the 13th Gen CPU, which isn't cool.
If you want to be sure I would look on their support page for that motherboard and see if any of the BIOS updates added support for 13th Gen. If it does you should be good.
@@KLEEBZTECH Great, thanks!
Unfortunately, I could not use the FLASH button on the back of the mainboard. I had to take a USB stick and connect it to the computer (format it to FAT32), then I downloaded the file from the MSI website under BIOS files. I unzipped the zip folder and loaded it onto the USB stick without renaming it. Then I went into the BIOS under M-Flash and selected my USB stick with the file on it. (MSI B550 Gaming Plus)
I noticed that there are other videos that bring up MBR vs GPT for the formatting, but does it actually matter on modern setups of Windows 10 and later?
Curious why it has to be less than 32GB. I’ll have to try a USB lower than that, hopefully that works I’ll update if it does!
It is possible to do it on a larger USB but that requires more complexity and less reliability. You can create a smaller partition on the USB drive to get around that. And there are other ways but Windows will not format FAT32 on anything larger than 32.
what if you don't have CPU power cable? I thought that was for extra power for overclocking your CPU
My z690 none of the USB ports worked. I took it back got the z790 and used this video again and worked
Well that would definitely make updating difficult. Lol. Hopefully didn't waste too much time figuring it out.
Nice video, where can we buy your motherboard openframe case ?
It is a test bench. You can find them in many places like Amazon. They are designed to make it easy to work on systems without needing to be in a case.
I did exacly what you say but still my pc wont boot . Still see a red and yellow light with nothing on screen tried both on board graphic and gpu .
Worked perfectly now let's hope the infamous red cpu amber ezdebug goes away. Otherwise I'm stuck with this 2grand new build till MSI tech support is open
When it comes to choosing the latest update, you are talking about the latest non-beta update, right? For my motherboard, there are two betas that have been released sooner but the latest non-beta update was released back in '19.
Usually I would avoid beta unless there is specifically something in that update you need. Usually you don't need to update the BIOS unless there's a specific reason
Does this guide also apply to the MSI Mag X570S Tomahawk Max Wifi?
It does look like the back of the motherboard is super similar to yours, just want to check. Do I need to rename the ROM file in this case on an AMD motherboard as you did on your Intel one?
If you have the BIOS flashback button then it would apply. The process is the same for all MSI boards that I am aware of. Yes you need to rename if using this method.
Great video - but scary, as my USB drive doesn't have an activity LED. Apart from the use case when the BIOS needs to be flashed to support the CPU, is there any reason not to use a CPU + the M-Flash UI in BIOS instead? Thank you.
Not really if that is what you prefer. I prefer this method myself.
@@KLEEBZTECH Thank you.