Warcraft III Reforged: Neutral Units (Bandits+OOZEX+Kobold+Wizzard) Part 4 Comparison (2002 VS 2020)
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- The models here are much better and more fitting. The Dalaran creeps are all spot on, more or less. They even made a model for Dota, so now we wont need to use custom models.
The only thing that's a bit off is..... the golems. Rock mobs, armored ones.. its all ruined and it doesn't even fit the lore.
Everything else is pretty good and it's hard to complain, aside from the 2 things i just mention :P
P.s. Haha, ignore the part with the wild oozes pron part. I was just bored xD!
```Other comparison videos below```
Playlist of All Reforged Content:
• Warcraft III Reforged
Burning Legion/Demons Video:
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Naga Video:
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Humans Video:
• Warcraft III Reforged:...
Orcs Video:
• Warcraft III Reforged:...
All Units Video:
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Night Elf Video:
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Neutral Units (Creeps) Video:
• Warcraft III Reforged:... 
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Thank you all for watching (and for all the new subscribes)
It's been really fun to share my videos, talk to people about them, and of course for people to enjoy them! :)
P.s. Sorry it took long to make, but my computer kept on breaking and editing this took forever, that's why there are a few mistakes here and there too.
P.sss. Reforged will be out soon hopefully, and we will be all playing it in no time :) (Dota anyone? :D :D)
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You are welcome and keep making great videos for us ^^
@@marielpetterson1370 I wont stop anytime soon so no worry
Что то есть в этом угловатом стиле
Lmao what tf is this 10:27
Wtf Bandits turned into Chaos Marauders from Warhammer.
Yea, i was wondering of what else they also remind me :P
MARAUDER HORSEMAN!
Take it, southerner!
And neutral cultists turned into chaos sorcerers.
Blizzard did copy everything from Warhammer. They basically remade a water downed corny rated G b movie status of Warhammer. Original concept was a Warhammer game but G.W turned it down. Then they hired bad writer's to study Warhammer lore and make the Cheese that Warcraft is today.
Ive said it before and i say it again. You can tell they outsourced the model works. They are not bad. They just dont look like blizzard.
Yeah, it has that vibe for sure. Its not horrible but not super warcrafty and magical/unique. Has a more generic look.
Exactly what I told myself
They outsourced models for hots as well. But hots models are the best. And very true to originals.
Aye, they look Chinese as fuck. Animations aren't made by blizzard and neither are the models. I can tell this is purely outsourced and in the case of it not being, it must be a new lead animator/model designer or a new team at blizzard doing this cause this is too far outside blizzards comfort zone which they've always stuck to.
@@malohn2068 Elaborate on how they look Chinese
Bandits now look less like forest thugs and more like Conan rip-offs.
Hahahahhhhh yea
Basically every unit could be a hero model now
Ye, everything is unique and looks great. No more repeating models.
@@Starfals makes you wonder when they plan on revamping wow to this
well dota did that before was cool xD
Even bunny model can. It looks damn agressive
Even the rabbits and the frogs ?
No one:
Me: The Acolytes finally stopped coughing after 17 years.
Aren't they snickering?
They finally got cure for AIDS
I always thought they were laughihg
@@manuelyausaz2976 Haha me too
From my perspective, the mod does what blizzard should've done, while the new textures belonged into a Warcraft 4.
Indeed. The mod is the perfect remaster, the new textures are not made for this game, they feel like they are for a new game (WC4 or even some new Warhammer kind of game)
@@Starfals Rebirth for the win, though :D
It's the small details that make the original model memorable, like The Acolytes coughing is a nice touch, why did they have to replace it with lifeless model even though they have many more details.
The banshees are the only improvement in my opinion, they're lovely and well designed.
I honestly dont like how the Mud and Rock Golems look in Reforged, too much Crystals
Cant say the same with the Siege Golems tho, they look BADASS
Same. Mud Golems look weird to me as well. So smily and meh looking xD
well they have crystals in the old Wc3 to.. they are just to fucking bad looking to even see them
i liked the mandalorian style heads of the siege golems from classic tho
Unpopular opinion here. I actually like nearly all of the reforged models. While I'm mad at Blizzard for pulling out the changes they promised, the reforged models are really good and the team that made them did attempt to do something different compared to Warcraft III Classic. Heck, there are so many models, doodads and environments. Real kudos and sad that team would be demonized as well due to Blizzard's upper management's laziness and mistakes.
Thats fair, i can see why someone can like them. They aint too horrible or anything, just some dont match with the original art, otherwise they are great. Blizzard lied a ton about other things tho.
Yeah i think if you look them up close they are amazing, i dont think the problem Is the artstyle, but rather the clash of them, in reforged the models look so realistic but the houses look ridiculous for example, and when you actually play the game, everything looks out of place, if they had sticked to a kinda realistic artstyle, colors and all, it would have been fantastic
Its form of demonstration is unique. Congratulations for the work.
Thank you, do you like the Reforged models btw?
I feel like the mod did a way better job in "updating"' the models of 2002. The models in the mod are way more familiar.
Yep, Blizzard really dropped the ball... a FREE Mod did a better job. Check out my last video/latest. U will be mad too :P
It looks so good
Thank You You Thank You . .. Such Joy To See & Everything Edited is So Perfect
Bandit: we stronk and go to battle shirtless
Current Azeroth tech: lmao these Dwarves just invented Catridge firearms
They got like bazookas, air raids and much much more xD ( tanks too!) The barb bandits got no chance lolol
Starfals I doubt that highwayman will raiding any capital
Excellent Video. Thank you for the detailed previews
Thank you for appreciating the video too!
I tried to do my best with my buggy/laggy computer and the crashing Warcraft 3 Reforged Editor :P
Oh wow! The ghosts totally reminded me of Planescape Torment's Deionarra!
"I shall wait for you in Death's halls, my love..." I love it whenever she says that!
The new ghosts are soo awesome :) 10/10 for sure, and i wanna see a whole map with only ghosts lol
the video music is soo calming btw
Dont get me wrong, the HD models look great. But the game kind of loses its charm when everything looks so overly detailed.
Too much detail made it really hard to play normal 1v1 /2v2 games for me. Its hard to see whats going on lol. I kind of agree about the charm part too, but its alright. We still can switch back to the old 2002 version anytime! :)
More unhappy they didn't keep the original models and changed them too much.
@@Starfals Yeah, I immediately got the impression that while up close they look leagues better than the original the screen will turn into barf soup when there's 2 maxed out armies on the screen.
@@EmperorSigismund now just get a stick and mix it around
@@roberts3423 Warcraft 3 has a distinct art style. When World of Warcraft was released it looked A LOT like Warcraft 3. These new textures look nice, but they aren't really faithful to the original. They look like they belong to a different game.
Reforged looks great! Mod looks VERY good and of course WC3 looks so nostalgic. I love 'em all! :)
Yepp, all look sweet. I honestly dont even need Reforged or the mod. :) Warcraft 3 is sooo nostalgic. Sure, the mod makes it look like a remastered game, but Reforged is trying to make it look amazing.
Its all great indeed :)
sweet finally a new video again i was worried u wont make a new 1
Yea because the editor and my video making software were crashing, so it was hard to make a video.
I always make videos!
Water elemental looks like that void lord from starcraft
True, i should have added that too :D
They were energy elemental things,just back then there was some laziness and they were given the same model with water elementals.
I never noticed that acolytes had knives. I always thought they were just double fisting things when they attacked.
Same, making those videos showed me a lot of cool details :)
0:35 Looks like this guy lost his whole family during the war according to that facial expression... (Been 18 years, so I guess that's possible!)
There were many wars in the last 18 years (in Warcraft) so who knows ;P
Somebody's GOT to make a custom map with a killer bunny in it!
Hahaha, dont give me ideas XD
@@Starfals Why not? Go right ahead and make it! Be sure to add in a black knight who would die from dismemberment if you can!
@@Starfals Sorry idea is copyrighted by Monty Python and you can not use it.
honestly the mod looks way better everything looks way to hyper realistic in reforged and some stuff dosent even look the the original wc3 units
A lot of things dont look like the original WC3 units, its a shame really lol. The mod is more fitting to be a remaster version :P
The reforged looks like crash of clans or Torchlight unit models
Models in Reforged look like something you could put in any fantasy game and no one would know it's from Warcraft.
Pretty much, but they are still great
10:55 🤣😂😁😘😘😍😏
Shh, dont tell anyone!!
@@Starfals Rules34 approve this moment '-'
Warcraft pron lmao
r/cursedcomments
poor dryards
I'm genuinely excited for this. Now that most units have unique models, the mapping possibilities got so much more exciting!
Thats for sure :) i hope people will go nuts and make brand new maps!
@@Starfals sadly it seems like people are complaining saying nothing is changed
They some how thought a remaster was supposed to be a remake
@@Starfals they will not because of new bullshit terms. Why df will anyone spend their time and effort on any creation if later blizzard can steal it from them and not give any credit what so ever??
Man, all of this high detail model should be on an MMO :( imagine the goodness :(
Yea, i was checking WoW yesterday and it looked so Blurry... omg
the crystal zombie though, he's chewing it and it grows back
I personally want the banshee/ghost models look more gritty and terrifying like they were originally tended to be.
i swear the war3 mod models are far more authentic and true to the theme of warcraft 3 than reforged. Literally just look at that knight model especially! holy smokes
Yeah, that mod is a better remaster for sure, but its not perfect and it lacks a lot of things. If BLizzard were to finish the mod, i'm sure everyone would have been more happier because it is more authentic as you said :P
Maybe beacuse they look like they've been imported from WoW. I actually enjoy the new looks. Some colors could need changes imo.
@@micha_666 i understand how new war3 players like new looks. Esp. HotS and wow players, But i doubt the majority of the war3 community do. The essence of warcraft was not about detail and was certainly not about how awesome unit models looled but rather how each unit had its own personality to go along with its splendid voice.
Take the footman for example, the old war 3 model was simplistic and true to the theme of a "footman". But in reforged the footman looks like a divine soldier from the most elite of elite units with huge shouldguards and gold plating throughout the armor and the sword that looks like its been made with high standards. None of the reforged models fit the war3 theme except a few really.
@@sohrabjamshed6899 Well that's is idd your opinion. I've been playing warcraft 3 since i was 8 years old and I'am still enjoying the new models. Night elves are fucking awesome. Footies also look badass to me.I think too many people just cant get over with nostalgia and seeing how this models would look like if Blizzard had ability to make them like now back then. Sry for my english i hope you understand what i meant by that xD
@@micha_666 yes i understand very well don't worry your english is pretty good haha. That's what i meant that these new models are not true to the war3 theme. They may be badass and new and cool but they don't fit the war3 universe. The reforged models are more fit for world of warcraft and heroes of the storm because if you noticed many hero models in reforged are exactly like their HotS counterpart. So there isn't anything true to war3. The models are more fit for the HotS theme than war3. Because war3 is about simplicity and the fact that reforged models are far from simple, just ruins the experience for me. (keep in mind i was extremely excited about reforged until i saw how the models were)
Can't wait to see the Chosen Ones reforged... Great campaign.
Indeed :)
My mans really went all out on the *Kobold* comparison
10:31 wtf?!
Haha, ye, they looked like tentacle monsters from the hentai pron, sooooooooo.. ;p
@Vice TOLUCT oh boy, there are some centaur porns out there, but pig licking? Ughh...
Just imagine - a custom race, humans only, based on bandits, mages, heretics and golems units. And also those paladins models with swords, sheilds and so on. So badass.
I wish they could add more custom races for sure lol
Oh boy that could be a Mercenary faction for hire.
Like Warhammer's Wardogs faction.
But the game would have to be severely expanded for that to happen. Oh boy, the day will come were we will be able to build a High Elven or Draenei city, instead of just building a simple military base to destroy another military camp, erasing all the beauty those structures ooze with in this game.
Give me something like City Skylines but warcraft edition with some elements of Black and White got damn it!
HAHAHA WC3 PRON XDDDD very good one, like
Damn, the design and graphics are sooooo good! And it's only beta. Love blizzard for making such an effort.
At least one person likes the new graphics xD Most people seem to be so negative.
But the custom maps plays like poop
awwwwwww I will miss the old Iron golems, but the new still very cool!
and of course, long live the new bandits! thats guys look serious dangerous and lethals!
I know what did you do with that venoms dude ;)
and holy shit, that what I call a flesh golem
a coño que tambien hablas español xd
The flesh golem is the real deal :D Finally he looks fleshy and golemy and cool. Shame for the old Iron golems. The new ones are just stone ones.
@@Starfals ooooo I'm happy to compart same opinions with you nwn!
9:42 Now I'm a real boy!
Haha yea xD The old kids look like dolls or some kind of goblins lool
*force attack*
MAN, those banshees look AMAZING.
And those sludge monstrosities... with the dryad... Enough interwebs for today!
Better than the WoW ones :P
I wish those banshees would replace the low textured ones of WoW.
(P.s. i had to do it, did u see what the monsters were doing on their own!! It was too easy!)
whats this is chaos marauder 0:20
Blood for the blood god?
THE CHAOS ARE RISING!
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!
11:52 Enigma's parents
Lol, his dad is scary
The children models are what nightmares are made of.
Hah, especially their empty eyes
That razor looking ones are great plus ot is amazing that they are the base models for modern dota 2.
So far, the only thing thats confusing about dota 3 reforged is, the icons lol :D The models are great
Where it's possible to find War 3 Mod ? thanks for your help
Excuse me. I wanna know where can I download the "WC3 MOD"? Thanks a lot.
Check for Rebirth on moddb :) It comes first
and no problem
@@Starfals OIC. Thanks for responding. You are so kind.
It's weird how the mod doesn't necessarily look better but looks way closer to WoW than reforged does.
Indeed. Its more warcrafty
Bandit 1, Madmax called, they want their outfit back.
Lol ye, i wanna watch that now too lol :P
8:21 Oh,yeah~Physics!
The B.......est kind! :P
WC3 next to Reforged is like the literal definition of the Soul v Soulless meme
Haha, ye, so many people said that.
A lot of the neutral units from the base game do boil down to tinting the same model of unit different shades. I like that reforge goes to make them all unique. I've only seen this video on the neutral units so I don't know how they look top to bottom but they look distinct enough that it'll be very easy at a glance to tell which one is which instead of "Okay its the purple skeleton, but I have a purple skeleton too..." then having to identify team colors.
I do however wonder why certain decisions were made in stark contrast to the original models. Like wizards having black hair in the original and the reforged having white beards. Or the.. Goodness I forgot their name after all this time. The units at 12:46 were originally left handed holding their shields in their right hand. Even in their concept art they were that way but the reforged has them all right handed.
I do wish to see the units closely in motion, the idle animations make sense with Bandits for example having their weapons lowered. But it always felt like a war game when every footy and bandit had sword or axe raised at all times. Seeing the original units next to the reforged ones that have that distinction feels so off putting. I wouldn't want my units to drop arms just because I retreated just enough that their base aggro range doesn't attract them to the enemy army. Although I also noticed in your Night Elf video the Demon Hunter just has basically no idle animations compared to the 2002 model. I seriously hope animations are added and improved on come the release.
Yeah, most things have their own models, its super awesome actually. Even if the models don't fit always.. Its still amazing how most units can be a hero now and nobody will blink. Everything looks good enough to be a hero now.
Why some units were changed like the golems or dinos.. is beyond me.
That one time at bandit camp...
Are the bandits the same as the militia units in King Arthur mission?
If only they brought back the old character selection. It was filled with the Ogres and even some lesser races like the Gnolls and Kobolds, you could even be a wolf if you wanted, but no animals if they did bring it back.
This shows that if given time, the characters can be a new racial addition, it would be absolutely cool to see those skeletons if the Necromancer class was made, would be cool to use Kobolds and Gnolls to be a 'neutral' race, OOOO! Neutral race tree! Just like the pandaren except is a separate race line filled with these critters and troublemakers. Even being able to use the Golems as well can be great to see.
And might I add, all the updates on the animals, especially the Kodos is great, can't wait to see if they will to an entire remodel of the game itself, making everything ever more realistic and terrifyingly cool.
Warcraft 3 (2002) is the best in my opinion because I grew up on this game I used to love this game every weekend for 3-4 hours playing it was a lot of fun
It was a ton of fun back in the day yeah ;p Same here
BTW, nice name!
Chaos consume us-
Wait a minute
HA! Wrong universe xD! (i should tell that to Blizzard as well)
I subbed for minute 10-11
xD Thanks
Look like the horde are welcoming humans in their rosters.
So you uploaded it.
Yep i guess i did? Lol, took me ages
That Chaos marauder in a blizzard game is very fitting lol
For the chaos gods (of Lordaeron)!
I mean the new assassin model looks pretty cool. I do like that they added more variety with the mobs but the execution wasnt the best
1. The dog changed breed
2. The kobolds have human quality equipment
3. Some units now have bare chests
4. Zombies now have shards for some reason
5. The colours of the floors are worse and sometimes plain
Those were the dalaran zombies, not regular ones. There are also normal zombies as well lol. I guess the shards are cuz of the mana/magical kingdom of dalaran
(Hmm, right off the back, I have issues. Why does the bandit look like a barbarian? Barbarians are good unit designs, don't get me wrong, but that is a more or less complete departure from what that unit is supposed to represent. There's a world of difference between a warrior raiding for his tribe, and a thug looking to make a profit, after all. There are others who look much more like the thugs I'd expect though, so not a net loss I don't think, not there at least. Except for the Bandit Lords. They just straight up made them rampaging barbarians... yeah, that's just a complete loss.
I liked what they did with the dark mages though. And aside from the clipping, I really like those zombies... and ghosts... ... seems like they've done a better job with Undead who aren't the Scourge than they've done with the Scourge... for some reason. And I don't remember what those creepy sludge monsters are called, but dang it if they don't look nice and scary.
... What the heck did they do to the water elementals though? I mean those ARE supposed to be water elementals right? Made out of water? It's frankly hard to tell... ... And okay, seriously, what's with all the good undead horrors being reserved for NOT The Scourge? I might be a bit biased but DANG... that Flesh Golem looks intimidating. I do think they overdid it on the skull decorations though. Golems don't really care about aesthetics, it would have had no reason to hang those up on itself, and I don't think a crazy flesh golem creating mage would hang up three random skulls instead of, say, more stabby bits. That's just my opinion though.
All in all... well, more of the same really. Some I find really cool, and others... just make me sigh.
Also, just realized, I haven't seen, and can't find, your Part 2 showcase... huh, that's a pity. Did it get taken down?)
I was wondering myself. Why did they use barbs for the bandits haha, its kind of odd right?
The water elementals are from Dalaran, so i think they just used an arcane model/unit instead of the basic water elemental one (also, this new look will fit more for Dota). There are already water elementals, so i guess they dont wanna repeat them. More unique models i guess? I need to double check how they are called but yea, that's what i was thinking ;p
P.s. The part 2 is there, i made a play list and it should all be there. Either in the Warcraft playlist or the Comparison videos one?
Oh wait, Part 2 was taken down for some reason, i'm gonna upload it tomorrow again.. hmm. Shame, it had like 100k views and a ton of comments. All gone now :X
@@Starfals (Ah, dang it RUclips... probably a bot or the like, or whatever it is, I'm sorry that happened. I'm glad to know I didn't just bizarrely overlook it though. I look forward to seeing it when it's up again!)
I didn't know the Vikings of Sweden were in reforged
They are! They moved to Lordaeron!
@@Starfals I thought they were supposed to invade England before the battle of hastings XD
what is that warcraft 3 mod plz? I wanna play that...
Rebirth :)
13:29 it is indeed good idea a scythe with a shield, bravo bravo.... .... .... brava
Kobold: You no take Candle!
Hah, thats right ;p
9:10 The kid in resembles Goob from 'Meet the Robinsons'
7:17 nostalgia starts
what video editor was used for this? i like the way it switches to the next units :3
Its Filmora and thanks! Some people didnt like that but i do soo lol :P
@@Starfals haha! thanks! if i will ever try to make a movie i will download it
Where do i get the wc3 mod?
It was from MODDB i think, Rebirth or Reborn
Man, we are get more heroes in defense of the ancients
You know it! :P Dota all day long incoming
Honestly, most of the "reforged" models don't look like they belong in Warcraft. The aesthetic has shifted a lot. Most models have a very generic fantasy feel to them.
Yea, 99 % of the people share your comment. I also do. It all seems very generic and not warcrafty at all. I still like them, but i wish they had that WC3 feel/magic.
11:58 In reforged they look like enigma in dota2.
Yea totally lol, maybe its cuz we need enigma in dota 1/3
@@Starfals Haha.:)
Not gonna lie, I was not ready for that Sludge Monster and Centaur
I wasnt either, and i made the video LOL
damn, you really made those female centaurs' day)
I see people complaining that the models don't have the charm and are "over detailed". As for the charm,i guess i must agree,the closest the models are to the OG ones,the more charm they had. Although i must remind you that,if they dared to make something so close to the old ones,they'd get mocked that "NO DETAILS YOU ARE USELESS" and reforged would be a complete failure, while now the models can save it and pull it from instant doom. But yeah,they don't got this OG feeling. As for over detailed,no,it is well balanced: not too much for the not that good PCs but not completely rubbish,give the credit they deserve.
3:12 looks delicious
what is that wc3 mod, can you link it?
Its called Rebirth and its great :)
Fun fact : the Darker version of Knight Is the Bodyguard of lord Garithos
The flesh golem head shouldnt be like this.it looks so ugly. Unless there should be the helmet add and only the teeth going out like in 2002.but now it is bald man
Yea its odd lol
Bandits now look like god damn marauders. instead of bandits. I like the older ones lol. The cultists look badass though.
Release date is still on 28th ??
Should be! Thats very soon too
The Shepherd like dogs turned into pitbulls.
Haha yea, a totally new kind of dog lol
Cual es ese mod, se puede instalar al w3 original?
for some reason, i thought the reforged bandit from the thumbnail was a vrykul
10:30 lol
xD!
@@Starfals F
those water elementals look more like the voidcaller warlock pet :-/
kinda wish hthey wouldve kept the wow style though (like in the mod). it feels almost like an entirely different IP now that they leaned more towards realism than toony
Yea, but also the voids are like the pets, and they are supposed to be a skeleton like shadow. Its all weird now LOL
the mod keeps the original looks to the W3 models but makes it more 3D while the reforged version completely changes the looks of each unit while also making it more 3D
its like Reforged was trying to 1up the mod and when they were finished with the product they forgot what game they were making
Haha ye, its like 50 different gams and most of the things dont have the WC3 vibe
@1:25 is green bereth from commandos
Ok, now where can i get that mod?
Check out Rebirth, its really good mod
@@Starfals Thanks a lot, friend
10:47 I have several questions.
I'm scared to ask :D
Wtf the water elementals does gym too woah
3:00 THE GOLEMS ARE SO HAPPY HAHA
While the new graphics certainly look nice and clean, it's unfortunate they seem to have decided to completely change the art style. Warcraft 3 visual design was cool, but it was also charmingly campy and really helped it feel distinctive. Most of these updated/new designs feel like they could fit in almost any modern fantasy game setting where realism and grimdark reigns supreme.
I also dislike the new style, the old one was better, even the one in Heroes. Oh well, the new graphics at least look good.
2020 is just 2002 shuffled around a bit
I'm screaming over the old frog model
Old froggy is soo funny xD
They should definitely Change all the void/ elemental Models in reforged. They all look like some kind of slimr/flesh Mixture.
Indeed, it badly needs to be udpated
Why in reforge there is no SSAO at least? Looks wierd, and underdeveloped.
I guess cus its the WC3 engine from 2002. They just added new textures and models/animations. I dont think they can add new effects like SSAO without more work. I even wonder if its a DX 9 or 11/12 game lol.
@@Starfals Thats a shame, only new models and sounds not what i expected.