Warcraft III Reforged: Neutral Units (Forest Creeps+Female Satyr) Part 1 Comparison (2002 VS 2020)
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- Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2019
- Really cool models, however, I didn't think a few things fit?
1.Ragnaros/Fire lord is really weird. It's more fire than lava now, also that human-like skull.. hmm. He is an elemental that has nothing to do with humans or demons. Cool model nonetheless.
2. Pitlord is just a lizard-like alligator... there is a lot wrong with it. It's not bad, but not the pit lord we all know.
3. Female Satyrs remind me of the Draenei from Wow too much. They look great, even beautiful. They are not supposed to be that pretty lol. They got corrupted by the demons after all. Also, Satyrs need to be way hairier. from what we have seen in WC3 and WoW.
P.s There are too many Neutral Creep Units for 1 single video so I will just make 1 video per zone/land. This one is the Ashanvale one.
```Other comparison videos below```
Burning Legion/Demons Video:
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Undead Video:
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Naga Video:
• Warcraft III Reforged:...
Orc Video:
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All Units Video:
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Night Elf Video:
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Human Video:
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Arthas Scourge Menu Screen Video:
• Warcraft III: Reforged... 
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For more Warcraft 3 Reforged Comparisons and Cinematics check in the video Description / Reforged Playlist!
Bro the Rexxar Reforged Model is wrong
@@scoottuch483 That is the random game model, not Rexxar from the missions lol. I compared him in another video i think
where is rexxar's batman hood :(
Only on the rexxar missions ;/ this is the beastmaster now, he's not rexxar so no batman hood lol
So we still can see Batman hood in campaign
Because it is not Rexxar. The Firelord from WC3 is also not Ragnaros. He just used it for comparison.
rexxar is now different than normal beastmaster, is nice. I think all story heroes got unique looks
@@Zazu1337 that firelord is so bad... why make it skully.. it needs its molten head back
people doing these new models are great artists, but not gamers. These models look great in close up, but become unrecognizable when you zoom out and play. Old models might be blurry on close up, but when you zoom out their distinct shape and style are more memorable.
Yeah, the old models got more contrast, and bigger body parts so you know what hero is doing what and where and whos who :P I agree
You only recognize them because youve been playing with them the last 20 years. Play with the new models just as long and they become just as recognizable.
It is incorrect to blame the artists because as concept artists and character artist you do what the art director says,
But i do agree the models look incredible but some are very difficult to recognize from the top and aren’t clear enough
They do what the art director and he's director tels them
Dude, there are fucking RTS games where the distinction between unit types is the weapon they hold and an icon in the corner of their unit box. Don't give me this "Its unrecognizable from afar" BS. RTS games have done more with less before.
My gf who has never played a warcraft game saw me playing through the reforged campaign and said it looked like a mobile game
Haha, thats really funny xD
When your RTS suddenly has more polygons than your MMORPG
The female Satyr is awesome. We need her in WOW !
It would be cool for sure. I always wondered what happened to all the female night elfs that joined the demons. Funny how they add them to Warcraft 3 but not WoW.
This doesn’t look like Blizzard art...
Yep, many noticed that aswell lol
I think it is ""made in china"" T.T
they outsourced....pretty darn foolish to do so.
tbh i kinda agree with them going more realistic. i dont want this reforged to look like "dota 2: rts edition" literally the whole cartoony look has been overdone to death now.
it looks better than blizzard art imo
0:49 WTF....oh my good
Garrosh xD
They all lack the personality than made them unforgettable in the first place.
well the comparison is a bit false since they compare for example a generic beastman model to rexxar ,sylvanas to a generic banshee hero etc. they all will look more or less normal in their campaigns, though i agree that they botched the reforged.
The motherfuckin' Firelord in Old WoW looks like he's straight out of Dark Mario's paintbrush from Super Mario Sunshine.
WHERE ARE THE MOHAWKS ON MY TROLLS?!
WHERE.
ARE.
THEYYYYYYY!
And zepplin boat is still smaller than footman unit, classic
Haha yea, also footmens are bigger than the doors of the barracks they come out of xD
Rexxar is half ogre half orc so yeah he does look like that beneath the mask.
Yea, its cool to actually see how he looks. Altho.. this is just a random beast master, the real Rexxar is in the missions.
I hope thats the generic Dark Ranger and Beastmaster classes. Because I would be severely underwhelmed and disappointed if those were Sylvanas and Rexxar. Especially after seeing how dope Kel'Thuzzad ended up looking.
They are. A bunch of heroes got unique character models. Some generic for multiplayer.
*_Looks at Rexxar's New Model_*
Look how they massacred my boy
That's not Rexxar. They created a bunch of new models for multiplayer so this is a generic mok'nathal beast master. Rexxar appears in the campaign and yes, he still has his batman hood.
@@Servellion Noice. I hope all campaing heroes have their own models, Because the generic multiplayer ones somehow just make me feel sad
@@UncleAsmos2005 If it's a named character, it has a unique model. For example, each of the paladins that Arthas kills while trying to get the Urn for kel'thuzad get unique models.
@@Servellion
Those Paladins actually had unique models in classic WC3 before Reforged was released.
To my knowledge, Paladin has like bunch of unique models, including Arthas and the like.
@@UncleAsmos2005 Thats why i stop playing multiplayer games of base building. I hate the custom new heroes. Not all, but a lot of them. I prefer the ones from the missions.
I missed the original Pandoren lightning hat, it fits like Raiden.
2:28 pit lord is epic , legendary , perfecttt.
I've played this game all my life, I can see what a lot of people are complaining about but honestly I don't think it's that big of a deal, all of the models look awesome imo. I wish they would've added new voice lines and audio etc.
They wanted to add new lines and voices and even lore, but thats off the table now ;/
Starfals Thats really unfortunate, I’m still good with all the old stuff I just thought it could’ve added a bit more life to the game.
@@Starfals Primarely because people bitched at them en masse cause Warcraft 3 is sacred.
While they all look fantastic from a quality perspective most of them just don't feel true to warcraft to me. Especially the Dark Ranger and Beastmaster disappointed me. Which is sad, because the DR was my 3rd hero of choice.
They're not using Rexxar and Sylvanas models. The designers are definitely legit gamers, they actually know the lore.
I think they made some of the Spiders too detailed, i mean, not even WoW Spiders look that colorful.
Cant wait for Part 2 for the Centaurs and Harpies.
Dont forget the demons of Outland! Those are also neutral units
They should really consider making the environment to scale, such as making the trees bigger and different, make the buildings much more bigger so that it actually looks like a unit may fit inside
It's like the person who art-directed Reforged has never played a Blizzard game.
Chinese mmo art team
Which is probably true
@@bukejakely154 Where'd you get that from?
So much lack of color when compared to WC3 and WoW. The design also lacks that specific Warcraft cartoony-style.
Many models were altered to much and when you zoom out it's hard to recognize them as fast as before.
Yes, i dont even know what is what anymore lol. Playing from a far/zoomed out
can't wait to watch the new episode of Jaina in the Morning.
ooh, do critters still explode if you click on them too many times?!
Starcraft 2 critter still explode so they must be
Wow! I never realized they reused models from Warcraft III for World of Warcraft! The rabbit, kodo, and boar models are the exact same as they were up until recently!
How do you take that wideangle shot from ground and even make sky seen? Is it possible on worldedit ? Nice work man.
Yes it is and thanks! :) Its from there, also some editing helps to make it more even and hide some things :P
More color is required !
Its still as bad, they did make it a bit more colorful but still not even close to the old one
Really wish they had the HOTS team on this project instead honestly...
Same! They know how important Art is.
Taking a realistic rework is counterproductive to this game. All the flashy objects are taken away, most of the skin color are drastically changed, some beasts with cool unique designed then turned into your average zoo animals, and fixing the whole propotions of character and adding more clothes to them thinking its cool to remove their originality. I expect only 'reforge' in quality of those ancient polygon creatures, not a portforlio.
Yes, counterproductive and yet here we are... This is why Reforged is one of the biggest fails. Its okay tho, Blizzard didnt make it. It was made in Asia. Check my last video for more info
Yeah, it's like Disney remaking The Lion King all over again
So in lore the lifespan of a murloc is unknown? in WoW they rarely or never grow to be bigger than grunts or footman?
Grunts are huge, but footman/humans? I think so? In WoW at least there are some really big murlocs. Bigger than Dwarfs for sure.
Keep in mind that a lot of these models are still unfinished.
Good point, lets hope they get better
hope so.. not-rexxar looks.... "interesting?"
@@Bashnudel That's not rexxar shown there, that's the melee version for Beastmaster hero, Rexxar's new model is not shown on this video.
@@saurax97 alright not rexxar.. "it" still looks interesting :D
They didn’t.
So can you recruit these neutral units?
It's just ridiculous how good Heroes of the Storm is and how Blizz jobs st scraped it 😂 its literally their best looking game graphics wise
Haha yea, thats true
Warcraft from 2002 look like it have real soul. Warcraft fro. 2020 look like project of university student
Who knows what kind of people worked on it from Asia. I hear most Asian devs are under 30 and while obviously talented, they ain't Blizzard, or experienced enough to remake one of the most important PC (also in general) game ever.
Male Satyr: It's a badass motherfucker
Female Satyr: _YaAah, It's draenei time_
1:47 Despite of lava spawn new model being awesome, firelords new model sucks, especialy its head, its just skull with attached "eveeeil" horns and low poly cheap-looking "glowing" eye sockets, instead of demonic shaped skull made lava with awesome metal crown. What a shame.
When does this release?!
This or next month, lets hope it wont take longer
Does WC3R looks good with a map graphics like Dota 2?
im kinda sad that they just didn't use the HotS models for it. The new models seem to deviate a lot more from the original content.
Indeed! The art style is off, while in HoTS is just right and perfect. Check some of my other videos. There is a mod for WC3 and it looks better than Reforged in many ways because it uses HOTS models
7:49 jumpscare boii
Gotta love a giant purple spider LOL
i don't like the color scheme and missing things and how some characters you can't recognize who they are. it's good looking but I wanna be able to play a game and recognize who that character is and rexxar that is not rexxar that is a totally different character
There is Rexxar in the missions only now :( I dont know why they did that.. nobody likes the new different characters that are super different.
I also dont like it. Female Demon hunter for the elfs instead of illidan is kind of weird too.
@@Starfals I've never in my life thought I would see someone *advocating* for recycling hero models in games. There's a first time for everything I guess.
Did you really just put a black screen for couple mins to reach 10 min mark? Wow
I never thought I'd say that but... MAN satyrs are hoottt :3
They don't fit because they're NOT the heroes we all know, they're other units, that's not Ragnaros, nor Chen, nor Rexxar or Sylvanas, I suppose Blizzard attempted to make them be different than just a copy-paste of hero models from 2002
What's the name of the soundtrack start in 2:08?
Damn it, they removed Dreadlords whooves, if it's not broke don't fix it Blizz.
Dreadlords are very weird to me now, like WoW vampires. Sure, they have to have that vibe, but the real ones have pale white faces, the hooves and other things that are missing from Reforged lol.
Shame they changed the Pandaren Brewmaster to...that. Old design has charm, new one looks like it’s trying too hard
Chen (the brewmaster) was so perfect before, i wish they just used the 1 from Heroes of the storm ;/
I like the old one for it's goofiness. The new one looks too serious.
i like the old version of it and the heroes of the storm than the reforged
We now return to Jaina in the Morning
XD
Rexxar looks like pure Orc instead of the Orc & Ogre hybrid he is suppose to be.
I literally just beat you on hard, fancy meeting you here, general!
Also yea, I thought so too. I guess the Asian team that they gave the game to, didn't know exactly 1-1 the lore of everything. There are quite a few off things in the remaster.
This is why I wish BLizzard did this remaster themselves.. oh well.
@@Starfals well the only thing that i actually found hilarious how they turned Detheroc into the lord of DIABEETUS.
@@MalcolmNessGranger Hahah yeah, you mean the fat dreadlord?
That one in 0:50 it's not Rexxar, just the regular heroe, Rexxar has his unique model (with the hat)
Is seeing murloc's eyeballs from inside his maw lore-friendly?
Haha :D its mucloc magic
They must have been like "Oh yeah! They can rotate camera angle that low too! Ah crap :| "
Imagine using these models on old dota maps
What did they do to Rexxar?! Where's his iconic mask?
Why people keep mistake Rexxar with some random half-orc????
It is not there because it was not Rexxar. The Video is misleading here. It's just a random neutral Beastmaster from the Tavern.
they did already a great job in heroes of the storm
ok so new nemesis stole old pit lords teeth
Is he adding a dota 2 character too?
Yep, i wanna do a comparison between Dota 2 and Reforged lol
I checked all the video and to be completly honest ... it looks so impersonal, i don't see blizzard at all in these ! It's just lambda 3D realistic -ish sculpt and it's disappointing.
Yoan Ausseil yeah this is so fucked up
Rexxar without the mask doesn't feel the same.
OG Warcraft 3's fire spirit and goblin tinkerer models look more badass than their reforged counterparts
Make the environment better tooo!! Goldmines etc
bruh my beer belly pandaren is gone ;-;
U should see my new video then :D the pig man also lost their beer belly :D
Worst Part Is That The Satyr Is Now Right-Handed.
The Murlocs’ Shields Are Also Replaced, I Like Their Seashell Shields More Because They Kinda’ Give Off That Sea Vibe.
Never noticed the right handed thing xD
Yeah, they also changed his kukri to a overdesigned pile of scraps
im low key mad these look better then wow, the colors have been dumbed down allot tho makes shit hard to see prob
The heroes, good models in the maps dota
I just made DOTA comparison video :) it will be up soon
Why do the satyrs have barely any fur?
Lorewise I understand why they can look like Night Elves but they look WAY too similar now.
music used??
Its been soo long, i forgot lol. Its all Warcraft 3 and World of Warcraft music tho. Because it fits with the game. I gotta check and I might be able to tell you
I’m disappointed regretting this pre order, this doesn’t look like blizzard at all
Nope, but at least u can use the old models. THey added an option to switch back. Reforged is good cuz we get more people in Warcraft 3, and thats like a 18 year old game by now. This will revive it, and u can still use the old graphics :P
Satyr old is better
You really should add campaign hero models or add disclaimer 'comprasion heroes got different models'
I still got to do those and i have not done that yet. I will eventually get to it :P Good point tho, when i made this video back then, it never even came to me.
I didn't know there were different models for singleplayer and multiplayer.
@@Starfals bruh no offense but you should play before making a spotlight XD
omg guys ffs read the TITLE. Neutral units. Rexxar is NOT a neutral unit.
Good point ;p I kept telling people that. I guess its kind of interesting how Rexxar now has 2 models in a way. The neutral one and the real one.
rexxar and sylvanas dont look like anything close to the real thing unfortunately
They do, this is new models for the custom heroes ;/ Sylvanas wont be a custom hero anymore, she will be only in the missions ;/ They will use those new models for online/multiplayer games
i really like the way the dark ranger looks tbh
Reforged Sylvanas model looks like a random elf npc
0:49 on Rexxar it looks like Garrosh :)
it's suppose to be a generic beastmaster in the multiplayer, Rexxar has his unique model.
0:18 why are there 2 new heroes in the heroes section?!? Ive never heard of there having new heroes
They added some new custom ones to reforged editor yeah.
Furbolgs = from Chubby Teddy Bears to Alpha Chads
You cant fk with them now :D
I wonder if they still have the starcraft units lol
Haha, wait for my next video ;p Its about that lol
@@Starfals Can't wait!
@@Starfals You must construct additional videos. Huh, heard that like even the models are made from 2003, there might be a chance on having a little bits of the Starcraft ghost models into it. like... a bit detail on what would they look like.
DONT YOU DARE TO TELL ME THATS THE NEW REXXAR!!!
I don't know but the old models look way better, dont get me wrong the new models look great but it doesnt have the appeal, they look great on details but they look so dull. I just cant pinpoint why I feel that way towards the new models. They look good but they look lifeless.
I feel the same way for many models, but not all. I understand you perfectly lol
Does the fliing sheep have a cigarette?
that firelord from 2002 looks like an archon from starcraft.
Has that vibe for sure, but firey and less archony :P
(You know... the more I see, the more disappointed I get actually... some of it's fun. Some of it's very cool. However, for the most part, it seems as though they went away from exaggeration with the color and designs and went increasingly more... generic, basic, and understated, in colors and in models. Not for all of them, again, however for a lot of them. And that's just... very disappointing to me. They lack... style. Flair. Personality... Not to mention the bright cartoon-like graphics that stand out to the eye and catch attention. Again, I don't think everything's a loss, there's some cool stuff here, however all in all? Disappointing.)
Yep, many models are generic or basic or more realistic looking and of course less colorful overall. I still like Reforged, but its not what most people wanted. Many models are also great, so its not a complete fail or anything :P Just disappointing
The fuckin spider lmao
wish those stylish panda were in wow *-* T.T
SAME! They look so cool and serious
Looks like it's gonna be relatively easy to mod in draenei with those new satyr models. My main concern when it comes to modding this game is the high quality (wether you like the look or not) models that are gonna make it difficult to make new models from scratch and have them fit in.
It will be interesting to see for sure
Wasn´t Rexxar supposed to be half oger? This is basically a Maghar orc...
Ye but hes also supposed to be a mix of orc as well, so i guess they made him big and strong but also looking like orc? Idk lol.
Satyr dont look nothing like the orignal one ....thats sad cause they are very hot in reality
Rexxar/Beastmaster without his signature cowl?? Heresy!
Seriously he looks like generic muscular grunt #78 now.
He's just the multiplayer Rexxar /beastmaster, the real Rexxar is only in the missions now ;/ (the one with the batman hat)
Damn, those Pandaren Elementals look nothing like the ones in Dota 2...
Reforged models look good, but is it as good as Dota 2?
I know HOTS made using SC2 engine, but the art in HOTS are more like a Blizzard game. Why don't they model on those?
They messed up the Pandaaasss 😕😕😕
Honestly they should have keep the models closter to the idea of back then
This looks like some Chinese mobile game art
It was made in Asia, its a fact, check my Warcraft 3 Reforged fail video for proof :D
If You Guys Hate The Models, Just Play The Original!
Or turn on the option to use the old ones, there will be a setting for it :D
Starfals Did They Also Remastered The Models? Or Just The Same Old Model?
honestly not sure if i like Rexxar's reforged model
That's the normal Beastmaster model
Thats just the neutral unit, he's just a random beastmaster, not rly Rexxar.. Rexxar still looks the same way, so don't worry.
@@xcx005 Ye, and god, its so ugly (the head lol)
@@Starfals yeh ikr
oh good! because it was honestly offputting, im glad it isnt him
9:10 Tanooki da!
Kreepy.... Damn right
very good Details - I think this is a good Way
It got better from the last update too :D
all they need to do was upgrade the characters graphic not change them into one of those copyright mobile games
0:20 lol, it makes it look like they just replaced the Naga Sea Witch with a Murloc picture
The icons are kind of bad :P
2:11 any way think so Pandaren of 2002 is better than 2020
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