Warcraft III Reforged: Orc Units Comparison (2002 VS 2020)
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2019
- Finally! BLizzard did a good job with the orcs! Most of the orc units and buildings are perfect, just a few things are worse. Mostly colors and contrast. Models look AMAZING! Even impressive.
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the orcs look rly rly rly cool
Oh, you made videos for almost everything
Can you compare armies of exigo ????? Some one say this rip-off warcraft in 2004 was better than warcraft III Reforged
I’ve noticed how reforged seems to go for a look more akin to the wow cinematics, which is fine (I quite like how they look) however in an rts you don’t tend to see most of the details they put into the models giving the models a more exaggerated look (like that of in game wow) would make each model much easier to identify at a glance which is very important especially in multiplayer where your constant switching between parts of the battle
0:55 Old one has the right attitude and looks more badass.
XD totally
4:28 also same
Maybe its just nostalgia bias, but then again it is nostalgia, we have lived through warcraft 3, no amount of fancy graphics is going to make us love it more than the original
Better graphics doesn't always equal better feel.
True true, especially the new icons.. i feel really bad while playing the game with them.
they made an 18 year old game look like a 10 year old game. hardly an improvement.
I like 2:06 and 2 others but the rest I prefer the old models because they're gritty.
8:06 Okay there were wolves on the autel.
Yea XD I never knew too
Wait there WOLVES?!?!?!?!
Mind blown
🤣 Ultra low poly dawgs :D
I notice most of the intense bright colors and effects are gone, I think that stuff gave the OG a lot of its feel.
So true
I dont think so, these is still in beta so the effects and colors aren't implemented on the units yet (or probably they wont add the effects, who knows). The animations of the units arent also finished also
One thing they did very well in the original was playing with contrast. It really catches your eye. I'm confident they will improve upon it
Yeah the og had darker outlines so you really notice the muscle definition
You’d think they made these skins in the map editor lol 😂
I always thought for some reason that the shamans were some kind of a dog race...
Same lol xD
The colors just dont look good in game is my biggest problem. Really hard to distinguish units/have much visual clarity in battle
Yep, colors are ruined on everything. I just uploaded the demons of Warcraft 3, and they look so pale. Nothing is colorful anymore. Even the portals and ground look 20% of what it used to look before.
I must admit I love the look of the new peon, it just looks so derpy
He looks cracked out.
Love your vids man especially the comparison ones
Thank you! Its usually a ton of fun to do those :P
1:57
Kodo on 4K: SCREAMS LIKE A METAL ROCK SINGER VOICE*
models look good,other things need some fix though
And the idle animations are terrible. What the hell is wrong there? Some of them are just a sway in one direction being looped, without the body actually moving back into the original position, and those that are not terrible made do stutter...
new peon model reminds me of that troll in the toilet from harry potter
Haha ye!
Whats wrong with their animation cycle.
Its just a beta thing, dont worry about it lol
They twitchin and tweakin the models can’t sit still
Having watched all four, they look fantastic.
My only complaint being that some buildings and units have lost their glow effects.
Phoenix, Arcane sanctuary, Stasis totems, ziggurats etc. They all emit auras of sorts. Which in reforged are missing.
Which seem to be present on wisps, frostwyrms and various other models. (Which look stunning).
Also wish they would have gone for a more HOTS styled Dryad, but alas.
I won't be purchasing the game anyway. Not after all the shitty business practices. But alas the nostalgia.
Warcraft my first gaming love. How I miss those days.
Totems got their auras back now, idk about the other ones. I made the video when it was still in early beta.
Also yay for a real WC3 fan here :)
Yes man i agree with u 100%
Looks great! can't wait for release!
Very soon! :)
4:19 2002vs2020 ??????? 2002 !!!!
ok boomer
dude... the game is still in beta...
@@DaveTheSodaGuy0 The game is done. And it sucks in any way possible.
I don't understand why they changed it so much. It could have been less work if they just followed the original models. It's like when you copy a project from someone and try to change it to look like you made it.
Everyone wonders about that too.. I don't get it. They had a super easy job. Just copy it and add some cool new spell effects.. somehow it wasnt that simple..
haha spiritwalker is old now. it's almost 18 years and they replaced his axe by a stick =]]
Haha good point, grandpa walker now xD
they shouldnt have change the icons
Yea, i wish they didnt
Honestly it just feels like the new icons blend together too much.
kinda sucks that tauren totem doesn't have the bloody sacrificial altar anymore.
Its more kid friendly now ;p
Just make Warcraft 4 already you lazy jerks, let go of the past!!
Yee, altho they wanna milk WoW as much as they can.. so who knows
They remastered sc brood war too.
As a sc2 fan, I think they should make warcraft 4 with a sc2 graphics
The Mighty Tauren's Chieftain Cairne, my old friend... [*]
Many 2019 units get Parkinson! After 2 decade, maybe they are too old!
Haha thats why they shake ? :D Good logic lol
@Wa Du yeah yeah pre alpha too
I always watch your videos in x2 I mean I dont want to lose time looking in same photo for 2 minutes each
I would love to see this models on Dota 1 but in 4K graphics.
2:12 That's one hella cute bat on the left
1:57 Epic sax guy
I really don't understand what some people expected...
I like what they've done! A lot!
I feel like a lot of new units are missing the point of what made the old ones so cool.
I agree for like 40% of the units :D
I think it's because they went for a more realistic approach, which is honestly quite odd imo. Compare some Reforged units to their Heroes of the Storm counterparts and you'll see how the hots versions are more stylized and have a lot more character
Yeah always feel something wrong with these, maybe its the nostalgic goggles, but they just dont feel right.
It's not just the nostalgia, @@ufuk5872 .
Have you ever heard the saying "less is more"? With the original, they didn't have a lot of polygons to work with, so they had to make really good approximations that allowed your brain to sort of fill in the blanks.
The old models looked like something from another dimension, while with the new ones, the textures are really smooth and stylized, so your brain is more ready to toss it aside as another piece of reality to be ignored.
Visual design of games(and movies as well) is rather counterproductive. Your brain simply pays more attention to something out of place, surreal or visually jarring. That's why it's so easy to get bored with CG when it's so good it perfectly blends with your perception of what is real, but well done practical effects never really get old.
In short, the old models are simply more visually stimulating, not to mention how they have tons more personality. They were painstakingly hewn, crude representations of Chris Metzen's artwork.
The new models just look like overdesigned fan art.
@@evanharrison4054 now i understand why some people still prefer old ones over the new characters. Well explained!
I may have lower standards but i am really happy with all they did till now.
troll berserker is groovin' more than usual at 5:18
BATTLE REALMS, I wish it has one too.
1:11
"hey, what are these letters burned up my a**?"
1:00 I never knew the old tauren has only 1 horn. 😔
Yea same haha :D Its cool to finally see the old units from so close and compare them
probably so it doesn't clip into the totem.
@@Starfals Yeah but Cairne was supposed to be old, with grey hairs on his face
Honestly the only thing I like better from the newer version is shadow hunter, but even he is lacking personality with that mask
He looks like a serial killer XD
Is it me or don't the new chatacter models seem a bit glichy? Not so smooth animations that make it seem like the charecrers are having a minor epileptic fit.
I noticed that too, but not all have that, plus some of the old models have that problem too in my other videos xD So its a mix i guess lol
Los tauren me parecen increíbles la primera vez que los vi grandes guerreros y son fuertes en combate también los orcos además sus héroes que tiene llaman mas la atención y sus habilidades
Mods and custom maps are the only hope for reforged version pretty much the same way as they are for classic.
0:55 HAAAAAAAAAAA! "keeps zooming in"
What versions of Warcraft games have been released for Android?
It looks really good, but I notice many graphical effects missing in reforged and aura's glows etc.
Look at my new videos, they finally added them :)
@@Starfals Holy shit that looks alot better indeed. Do you still have anything to add? or are you 100% satisfied now?
Imagine broken alliances with these graphics!!
Played the game during 2002..
Never thought game graphics will improve so much after 20 years...
Same lol. Remaster versions are great :)
so much? these graphics are awful for 2020 u must be joking
I mean, the 2002 game's graphics were incredibly poor and low-poly even compared to other games of its time. We were shocked about how bad the graphics were when it was first revealed in '99.
We still absolutely loved the game though, of course.
@@obuw1 ok you say incredible so it was the worst looking game in 2002 you say. tell me all these games that looked good that year? or is it just your hype rage talking lol
@@krybling 2002: Dungeon Siege. Age of Mythology. Morrowind. Battlefield 1942.
2001: BG Dark Alliance. Fallout Tactics.
Not saying any of these games were *better* than WC3 overall, but clearly, GPU's from the era were more than capable of rendering more than 15 polygons per unit.
WC3's poor graphics were partially due to artistic choice, and partially due to the fact it was blizzard's first 3d game. But if you compare the character designs to WC2, for example the knight or footman, you just go "wtf happened to humanity between the two games!?".
Hmmmm, I mean the definition is improved a whole lot (as expected) and the animations are SO good. However I feel like the designs are too different, like they took a lot of artistic liberties and ended up making worse looking models. Before, they were simple, bulky and colorful characters with a playful fantasy style that makes the danger and the good stand out separately.
I think the main problem is that they made each character as detailed as possible, and forgot that each unit is nothing more than a piece in a board game. Especially the smaller units like the grunts, of which there are hundreds in the game, have to be kept simple whilst still looking epic and fantastic. If you look at the hd grunts individually they are very detailed and stylish, but when you have 50 of them in one frame, THAT'S when it looks silly and unnatural to the human eye
Exactly. You and a few other people said the same thing. Its a shame, because they felt like changing so many things for no reason. For the sake of being different. They should just copy the original game and improve it, not remake it into a new 1.
I also think that WC3 reforged will release in 2020. Almost the end of 2019 year and still beta version with many bugs. Even they haven't release night elf model in November 2019.
Haha yeah, end of december or january 2020
why no auto look items for unit all twins?
1:57 me listening to All Star
System:*Details Has Joined The Groupchat*
7:31 What is the music?
What is this song title?
I would love to see the number of polygons increase ^^
I spent thousands of hours playing this game but when I skipped to 8:11 I wasnt 100% sure thats an Altar^^ never see it from this perspective
Probably from like 20 to like 99999999999
The good ones are those that didn't get remodeled
Kind of agree lol, i prefer how the original ones looked
if they had they took it out 20 years ago. one would say that it is excellent for its time. but it seems to me that they had to give more in graphics.
can someone explain me where did the shadows go ?
They are gone from the editor, even if you turn them on, they dont work lol. Reforged is so buggy.
oldschool is the way to go, no charm in the new graphics
I agree, the old 1 is full of charm
@@Starfals thank you for the work you put in to make your videos
and warmill looks creepy. why that saw is so weird. why fireplace is not in fire? why it have bastions?
those totem differences though ^.^
Its huge lol :D The old totems are kind of funny
I bet WC3 fan community could do much better 3D models years ago and release them for free, as it was with brillant custom games.
Check my other videos, i was showing a REALLY well made mod. The models in that mod are 1-1 with the original game, but they look super detailed and great.
So in order to make up the underdeliver item they add original version!!!
Hi what’s the song in this video thanks
Its all orc music from Warcraft 3 and WoW
와 블레이드마스터는 사무라이에서 출세해서 무슨 다이묘가 됬네;;
Every model look superb , they really did a great job on this one
For sure! Everything looks really close to the original ones. The only thing i dislike is the new icons lol
Calm, slow units? Make them twitchy!
Twitching, nervous units? Make them slow and calm
New ones look like straight out of mobile game assets
They got that vibe yea lol, not all but ye ;d
Now, can we get a warcraft 2 remake
That cant be too hard to do :D I have a feeling it will happen. Diablo 1 and 2 and probably Warcraft 2. Probably after Warcraft 3
0:34 i dont like the new grunt's beard. you'd imagine grunts are grunts because they're still the youth if the society hence the shaved look in the original and as they get older and rise in social status, their beard grows out and the gain the privilege of riding wolves like the raiders.
1:47 the new kodos not working on the endurance aura(i think) makes me sad. they used to drum away idly on their war drums. you even see that during one of the cutscenes but the new one just sits there :(
everything else pretty muh looks awesome though
Ye that beard is a bit funny but its alright with me i guess :P You got a good point tho
1:56 head boppin
Can you compare armies of exigo ????? Some one say this rip-off warcraft in 2004 was better than warcraft III Reforged
Why wouldn't they create DOTA Reforged? That would be amazing!
2,28 Very Cool
I wish Reforged would add a third person mode.
Yepp, just like Starcraft 2 has one. Maybe the engine of WC3 is too old for that
So why does the Tauren Chieftan gets a real weapon, an axe, while the other Taurens uses a tree truck? The Taurens should go on strike.
That explains why their homeland is soo empty and has only a few trees left :P
Totems are great
you should use the Orgrimmar BGM instead :)
im still like the old one. Someone with me ?
I still love the old ones! :)
The stand movement looks like they have epilepsy or things like that...jaja
Link 4012 LoL dat Kodo Beast
3:17 low quality body, nice blizz 2020.
Haha yea XD they could make it better
@@Starfals They did it
Wtf with that Kodo Beast? Why is it green? Why shaman doesn't have this cool looking dress anymore? Wtf with blademaster?
Two things:
1. War Chef!
2. sOm ding bE DoIng?
Reforged models reminds me HoMM V graphics for some reason
So far looks like the Orc units were the best done. Undead units each just look too high rez and awkward...
Orcs are amazing, 0 problems with them, except a few really ugly icons that i dont get..
Dude... FIX THE FING RAIDER TO GRUNT SIZE RARIO DUDE IT'S DRIVING ME NUTS. HOW IS THE DUDE ON THE WOLF SO SMALL AND THE GRUNT SO BIG? USED TO DRIVE ME NUTS IN THE OLD ONE TOO. THANK YOU BLIZZ
Raiders thematically would be smaller weaker orcs. The grunts are the foot soldiers.
The raiders are the smaller orcs that do hit and run, and well, raid. Much faster and agile but with less brute strength.
@@HauntingSpectre but still all they have to do, is adjust the scaling a bit, not a hard thing to do
What the song,guys?
Songs are mostly from Warcraft 3 and a few Wow songs
This music is from Warlords of Draenor main menu theme.
Are they really getting rid of the red glow on those units?
I like the glow.... :(
@@Crysishudson Me too !! I hope this is just a beta model and the red glow will be back during release.
More like, they are nerfing it. Its les now, but its still there
@@Starfals nah, blademaster has no glow at all, its not just nerfing. Maybe some of them but others are completely off glow.
new peons look actually quite nice
Sees video thumbnail
*ZUG ZUG*
where is Thrall??((
THE GRUNTS SHOULDER PIECE IS ON THE WRONG ARM
Haha, not to mention they look nothing like the Warcraft 3 orcs from the menu screen, cinematics or even world of Warcraft's orcs. But yea XD many things are on the wrong sides, just wait until u see my demons video
Blizzard could make much more with this awesome saga .. like starcraft..
Yeah, especially if the Starcraft 2 team had to do it. They are so talented omg, imagine Warcraft 4 in 2020!
those 2002 graphics seem more like 1997. It's an RTS tho
That's a fair point actually because the models were a lot better in 98's Half Life 1. Just to think Doom 3 came out almost the same year as this lol.
I guess it doesn't look as bad because its cartoony and RTS as you mentioned
@@Starfals WarCraft 3 had to handle a lot more units on the screen than Half-Life ever did though. When there are hundreds of units running around and doing stuff at the same time, sacrifices have to be made to make the game run smoothly.
1:57like using headphones
Wheres Thrall, Hellscream, and Carrien ?
When i made this, they were not in the game yet. They are the campaign heroes, not the online ones. I will do a new video soon and add them
Wait for Dota Reforged. More and more map =))
now if they darken it slightly
I want to play Dota 1 like this !!!
The 4:23 wolf red inscriptions make it much better, it's a downgrade. Same with the totems that had their effects removed...
They added it now in the final game
8:54 2002 looks better? :D
I kind of like that 1 more too
Models look good. I wonder why the whole game doesn't
Yea, its very weird and for some reason i also dont think it looks that great
4:22 you kidding me! They just put this mobile game wolf to the game instead that 2002 the most amazing fantastic wolf model?
It gets worse ;p Its not just the Orcs that are ruined, check the undead and human videos too.
Altho, they got some good stuff too.
Its like 30% good models, 50% cheap Chinese mobile game, and 20% weird models that just don't fit.
(Hmmm, alright overall. Some cooler, some not, however there's nothing that really stands out to me and makes me go 'what were you thinking!?'. However, also not much that really excites me. Still, like it overall.)
Yea, i kind of think that way too
Не Orc units, а Horde units