2023 McLaren Artura Review // The Worst Best Car Ever

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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2023
  • The Mclaren Artura ($289,175 as specced in the US, ~$393,397 CAD converted) is a hybrid V6 twin-turbo supercar that makes a massive 671 horsepower, 531 lb ft of torque, and has just a 3303 lb curb weight. It comes with a claimed 355 km/h top speed and a 3.0 second acceleration to 100 km/h. Like every Mclaren, it is hand assembled for extra precision - but do some extra quirks still come along for the ride? And does it hold its own against the competition? Thomas and James are excited to try their first ever Mclaren on Throttle House. We hope you enjoy the episode! Subscribe!
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  • @Stuey105
    @Stuey105 8 месяцев назад +2987

    The 671hp number popping up so often is likely because it converts to 500kW.

    • @juliantaffa4089
      @juliantaffa4089 8 месяцев назад +218

      Yep, metric gang for life

    • @chainringcalf
      @chainringcalf 8 месяцев назад +204

      They rounded to 500kW, converted to hp, and left the ridiculous "precision"

    • @NO3V
      @NO3V 8 месяцев назад +33

      I LOVE thoughtless precision!
      My favorites are commemorative tattoos marking the back left corner of the tattoo parlour instead of a less precise coordinate for the city.
      Rolls-Royce recently also marked the retention pond at their factory on the door sill of the Ghost!! (Doug DeMuro's video 5:23)

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles 8 месяцев назад +151

      Ahhh, reminds me of the "276hp" JDM gentleman's agreement lol

    • @juliantaffa4089
      @juliantaffa4089 8 месяцев назад +77

      @@hi_tech_reptiles yep, that was an agreement for 200kw.
      Crazy how far engines have come now

  • @the_deee
    @the_deee 8 месяцев назад +1650

    James saying "It's the full McLaren experience" while slowly tapping TH's Business card is so hilarious

    • @surfer101ist
      @surfer101ist 8 месяцев назад +33

      That’s the moment I bursted out laughing. 10/10

    • @namegoeshere2903
      @namegoeshere2903 8 месяцев назад +6

      ..and yet truer words were never spoken...

    • @mikeoconnell9019
      @mikeoconnell9019 8 месяцев назад +14

      I love the face he makes it’s like so serious 😂

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL 8 месяцев назад +9

      I actually laughed thinking of Freddy Tavarish and his hurricane flooded P1

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs 8 месяцев назад +11

      Credit card actually. The full McLaren experience involves spending a LOT of money. That open was pure comedic gold.

  • @tavarish
    @tavarish 8 месяцев назад +888

    I have never seen an Artura that works. Never.

    • @ardonjr
      @ardonjr 8 месяцев назад +55

      Said the man with 'not-a-working-P1' 😅 (which we by the way, love to see some updates from (it has been 12 days already.. love your video's)

    • @KINGVONFRM063
      @KINGVONFRM063 8 месяцев назад +27

      Maybe you should buy one for cheap and make it work?

    • @ardonjr
      @ardonjr 8 месяцев назад +13

      @@KINGVONFRM063 lol! Like he hasn't enought projects to finish yet ;)

    • @joseph7860
      @joseph7860 8 месяцев назад +26

      1200 miles in slightly over a month in mine and I've been driving it hard, been faultless.
      But seems i always get "lucky" with my McLarens

    • @snakeeyes9246
      @snakeeyes9246 8 месяцев назад +1

      I just realized this is Tavarish.

  • @LucasMp
    @LucasMp 8 месяцев назад +487

    I have just two things to say.
    1) The level of content that you guys create is absolutely nuts. Love this channel.
    2) the fact that both screens on a car that's about a quarter million dollars can (and fucking will) overheat that easily and constantly, while being THAT slow, is just absurd. That's beyond unacceptable.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 8 месяцев назад +34

      It's astounding some of the engineering decisions they make - technology aside even their engineering is often very questionable - one I recently became aware of is they put skeletal cast conrods in most of their V8's - ostensibly to save rotating mass - but the real outcome is a lot of McLaren models are very prone to bending rods. I mean, they could at LEAST use forged rods on all their cars, given how expensive they all are - and when you are asking a small V8 to produce big power at big revs, the last thing you should be doing is trying to use skinny cast conrods just so the engine revs a fraction more freely - hell even my low revving Lexus V8 has forged rods, and it was a fraction of the cost of even an "entry level" McLaren. The engine they use is derived from a Nissan unit developed for racing - Nissan NEVER put cast rods in it though.

    • @ConnorHammond
      @ConnorHammond 8 месяцев назад +5

      @@Beer_Dad1975 Exactly what happened to Tavarish's 675LT, RIP engine.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@ConnorHammond Yup that was how I found out about it - fair enough that he'd added a lot of power to it - but then when he goes and talks to the McLaren guru who shows how absolutely shit the rods are...

    • @Lukeywoodsey
      @Lukeywoodsey 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@Beer_Dad1975in fairness they said that's if you added more power, you shouldn't really need to modify a car with that much power

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@Lukeywoodsey They are still really shockingly tiny - and a lot of owners are going to want to tune these cars - they should have at least SOME level of safety overhead.

  • @BIGGELATO
    @BIGGELATO 8 месяцев назад +1517

    Glad you're keeping McLaren accountable, or else they'll keep making unreliable cars. Someone has to do it!

    • @shannacollins4741
      @shannacollins4741 8 месяцев назад +1

      Accountable? Do you really think that McLaren cares they are gonna keep putting out the same crap as long as the RICH folks keep buying them !

    • @21sled
      @21sled 8 месяцев назад +22

      Other than the very important screens overheating, there’s nothing unreliable about this car

    • @andychang7137
      @andychang7137 8 месяцев назад +44

      This is the main reason that I haven’t get an McLaren lol

    • @RomanticPopPunk
      @RomanticPopPunk 8 месяцев назад +91

      @@andychang7137 lol same, that’s definitely the reason haha….

    • @MrJamesguy1
      @MrJamesguy1 8 месяцев назад +3

      So what did you guys get? ;p

  • @chunbaouk
    @chunbaouk 8 месяцев назад +846

    I can see lots of comments (quite rightly) congratulating you on the excellent production value of your videos these days, but I just wanted to say as great as that is, what I love most about your videos is the writing, the comedy, the honesty, the chemistry and the integrity of your takes. I hope as you become ever more successful, you guys never lose that!

    • @dewjustin
      @dewjustin 8 месяцев назад +21

      It bothered me so much when straight pipes had more subs than TH. Literal opposite of all of those qualities you just wrote out.

    • @Blamant
      @Blamant 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@dewjustin I can't even watch the straightpipes anymore. It's so irritating to watch.

    • @EricDMMiller
      @EricDMMiller 8 месяцев назад

      Their production quality is exactly the inverse of McLaren.

    • @blackfire_x2964
      @blackfire_x2964 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@dewjustinThat was ages ago at this point. But yeah it irritated me as well

    • @lepe
      @lepe 7 месяцев назад

      what the hell is wrong with you? just enjoy the video and comment about it if u want. stop circlejerking

  • @R03333
    @R03333 8 месяцев назад +206

    I've said it before & I'll say it again, whats happened to McLaren is that for years people said the cars were phenomenal but lacked the "character" of their Italian rivals. McLaren then employed (I presume in labcoats) "character experts" to go and analyse cars that were reviewed as having lots of it so they could mimic some. Unfortunately they chose to take the character of old italian stuff that just didn't work 50% of the time. "ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG"

    • @user-kj1yx5sg3g
      @user-kj1yx5sg3g 8 месяцев назад +34

      The feature, like Ferrari, is that you need to own more than one. So you can have one in the driveway while the other is in the shop. Then alternate.

    • @R03333
      @R03333 8 месяцев назад +9

      @@user-kj1yx5sg3g truly the Italian exotic experience

    • @boostav
      @boostav 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@user-kj1yx5sg3g Ferrari's are very reliable these days

    • @cronoz-sensei4259
      @cronoz-sensei4259 2 месяца назад +3

      @@boostav eh...depends which one. And a lot of the issues with Ferrari isnt rly that theyre unreliable crapboxes (not anymore at least), more so that they use super weird and prone to break systems like the 4wd in the Ferrari FF (which I lowkey would love to get coz I think hatchback Ferrari is such a cool car idea, but the cost of replacing that thing when it breaks makes me second guess it), which is also insanely expensive to replace when it breaks. Funnily enough, 2005 onwards Maseratti Quatroportes are very reliable and give you that Ferrari flat plane crank v8 experience, with more practicality to boot.

  • @CH-qt4hr
    @CH-qt4hr 8 месяцев назад +114

    Interesting that the Car and Driver write up doesn't mention the atrocious build quality much at all. Kudos to Throttle House for keeping it real.

    • @dillonhughes1417
      @dillonhughes1417 4 месяца назад

      Welk much like video game reviews...they can be bought that's why big company reviews shouldn't be trusted at all

  • @coreyk288
    @coreyk288 8 месяцев назад +483

    Man, throttle house has come so far in such a relatively short period of time. It doesn’t seem that long ago that we’re discussing “regular traffic” cars. Now nearly every single video contain some of the most exciting cars currently made. Hats off to you guys

    • @MumrikDK
      @MumrikDK 8 месяцев назад +68

      I don't find it one-sidedly positive that they're reviewing fewer relevant cars.

    • @TermlessHGW
      @TermlessHGW 8 месяцев назад +2

      If anyone is watching TH on their phone...you're missing out on the quality of delivered entertainment.

    • @Delta0429
      @Delta0429 8 месяцев назад +19

      They still do regular cars, just mostly on the Extra Throttle House channel instead. Recently they've done the AWD Hybrid Corolla and the Prius Prime, both pretty "normal" cars

    • @spencerwhitmore1896
      @spencerwhitmore1896 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@TermlessHGWand how is that?

    • @egorlike1324
      @egorlike1324 8 месяцев назад +6

      Kinda wish they d review more pedestrian cars

  • @Hearty_June
    @Hearty_June 8 месяцев назад +388

    The production level is just crazy and gets me each time. Cant believe we get this on youtube. I am so happy they got the recognition they deserve and managed to grow so much

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL 8 месяцев назад +1

      After watching how Freddy Tavarish is taking parts from ALL the previous 600 and 700 series to fix his P1 and pointing out THIS part in a P1 was in a 675.

  • @crazyleafscanuck
    @crazyleafscanuck 8 месяцев назад +74

    Nailed it. I own one and the gremlins are something you take hand in hand owning a McLaren. Turn it off and on again has been my approach. You put up with it because the driving experience is unmatched. McLaren also offered a 3 year fully covered service plan and 5 year warranty on the Artura to cover any reliability concerns. It was enough of a differentiator for me to trade in my McLaren GT.
    Funny enough I offered Karston through a common friend if you guys wanted to drive mine. Was super excited to see this review drop!

    • @G0ddEityawesome
      @G0ddEityawesome 8 месяцев назад +1

      The warranty term is BS because there is a high chance mclaren will go out of business in a few years 😂

    • @marty1035
      @marty1035 8 месяцев назад +21

      About as BS as your comment.@@G0ddEityawesome

    • @florencebaendes2853
      @florencebaendes2853 8 месяцев назад

      F no. I will not spending my money on some unreliable bs crap just because driving experience. I don't want to be another Paul Skywalker lol. And talking about experience, a kart would give you the same experience. You fanboys are just delusional

    • @Ov3RFLoW88
      @Ov3RFLoW88 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@G0ddEityawesome then Volkswagen group will acquire it as they did with Lambo, Bugatti

    • @Nathan0A
      @Nathan0A Месяц назад

      I drove one at a press event and when asked, they told me the warranty was VOIDED if you drive it on track without first having a full inspection done on the car before EVERY trackday. No thanks.

  • @KapuraIII
    @KapuraIII 8 месяцев назад +17

    Incredible opening skit, one of the best in recent memory. The one shot of james face from below, the cuts to the card reader, the delivery, [chef kiss]

  • @micahnichols155
    @micahnichols155 8 месяцев назад +282

    Give a raise to whoever did the sound design on this video, fucking awesome!

    • @jonathanmiri3483
      @jonathanmiri3483 8 месяцев назад +15

      Incredible sound engineering!!

    • @prit04
      @prit04 8 месяцев назад +12

      Harrison is the sound engineer

    • @prit04
      @prit04 8 месяцев назад +24

      Harrison the 6’6” rear seat headroom tester and sounds engineer extraordinaire

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 8 месяцев назад +4

      If only RUclips supported Dolby Atmos it would be perfect.

    • @GuyGamer1
      @GuyGamer1 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Beer_Dad1975Why, do you have roof firing speakers or something? Or more than 9 speakers?

  • @albrechtjohnj
    @albrechtjohnj 8 месяцев назад +321

    It's shocking that the Artura isn't sorted by now. I saw a pre-production Artura at a show more than 2 years ago.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 8 месяцев назад +60

      hand built british supercar wasnt a recipe for reliability in the first place now throw in twin turbo and extra battary and ev motor into the mix with a dash of tablet touch screen control sure does wonders for its reliability.

    • @BERZERKERSV4
      @BERZERKERSV4 8 месяцев назад +4

      yup... just like the Emira...

    • @AI-qd4vb
      @AI-qd4vb 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@patthonsirilim5739None of what you said has nothing to do with it's poor reliability. Just a bunch of fairly racist remarks and ignorant nonsense. The car is not reliable because of the poor QA process that McLaren choose to implement. Nothing more nothing less. The company or their investors simply dont want to invest in QA for these cars and their buyers simply don't care about that. Pretty much the same with all high end cars (which is usually what the brits build). There's been plenty of reliable budget cars made in the UK.

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain 8 месяцев назад +8

      ​@@AI-qd4vbthose budget cars are rarely any good

    • @wake777
      @wake777 8 месяцев назад +37

      ​@AI-qd4vb what does racism have to do with this 😂😂

  • @TheAlexanderswagner
    @TheAlexanderswagner 8 месяцев назад +29

    This episode was so good. When Thomas was done driving and the scene went silent, I was half expecting it to cut to a cheering audience back at the studio. Well done lads

  • @Jezzrichjames
    @Jezzrichjames 8 месяцев назад +12

    An amazing introduction…gets better every time, and also, this is one of the most genuine reviews I’ve ever seen, showing not only the idyllic parts of the vehicle, but also showing all the faults, rattles, and pieces falling apart. I also love how this review is about how it is to drive the car, rather than just how the infotainment system works, or how it looks pulling up to a bougie hotel or restaurant.

  • @NHHD
    @NHHD 8 месяцев назад +180

    This is the best automotive channel on youtube, really enjoy your content!

    • @eyescreamization
      @eyescreamization 8 месяцев назад +3

      I would consider savagegeese...but otherwise you are right.

    • @DevKumar-bi2ld
      @DevKumar-bi2ld 8 месяцев назад

      Nahh carwow with there drag races is the best >>>>>

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@DevKumar-bi2ld carwow and Doug are better details and other stuff about the car other than the driving but TH is focused on the driving and how much of a driver's car it is, plus they basically make mini-movies and their episodes has literal Writing in it, which at times are pretty Witty which no other car channel does except for Squid and a bunch of others who basically make Documentaries.

    • @DevKumar-bi2ld
      @DevKumar-bi2ld 8 месяцев назад

      @@Ar1AnX1x yeah not denying what have you just said but, for me drag races , rolling races, breaking test are more enjoyable that's why I preferred carwow, plus I like the comedic rivalry between mat and yianni.

  • @shobin05
    @shobin05 8 месяцев назад +160

    Its a real shame McLaren has many quality issues. I always root for them seeing as how small they are compared to equivalent supercar makers. They need to focus on quality control fast or they're going to face the same faith as jaguar is right now.

    • @jeromehaywood1
      @jeromehaywood1 8 месяцев назад +15

      That's never going to happen. McLaren has one of the best supercars on the market. The performance alone is makes them a timeless brand.

    • @47omkarrane
      @47omkarrane 8 месяцев назад +12

      *fate

    • @notagain2856
      @notagain2856 8 месяцев назад +37

      Their quality issues mean Mclarens depreciate much faster than Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Great for those wanting to experience the performance but not willing to fork out msrp for a new one.

    • @yofolkdem1256
      @yofolkdem1256 8 месяцев назад +15

      ​@@jeromehaywood1doesn't take long to go from timeless to utter joke. "You like burning money ? Buy a McLaren and watch both go up in flames."

    • @kylem324
      @kylem324 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@jeromehaywood1 Hi. As someone that’s cheering for McLaren, it’s a problem that they really need to address. As an OEM they really need to make their cars more appealing to long term ownership. For instance, among the original P1 owners, there’s a number of them that have sold their cars because they don’t want the headache that comes with the milieu of service and maintenance issues. Reliability, durability, and build quality are all luxuries that you might not think about until you notice their absence. Not being inconvenienced or wasting time is a significant luxury.

  • @ChrisJones-yh2os
    @ChrisJones-yh2os 8 месяцев назад +10

    Omg. This is a masterclass in honesty without unkindness. And it left me wishing I could afford this car.

  • @megaaap100
    @megaaap100 8 месяцев назад +7

    The heat coming from the exhaust at 2:58 was just a cherry on the cake of that shot 👌🏻😊

    • @theepicricemaker6611
      @theepicricemaker6611 8 месяцев назад

      Took me a lot of looking to clock that

    • @Sagginballs
      @Sagginballs 8 месяцев назад

      @@theepicricemaker6611i was looking at the back of the car for a good 20 sec

  • @flacjacket
    @flacjacket 8 месяцев назад +35

    Excellent, I watched this while driving in to work in my McLaren this morning!
    Okay fine I watched it on the side of the road while waiting for the tow truck.

  • @Joey.Alford
    @Joey.Alford 8 месяцев назад +19

    Karston absolutely CRUSHED this edit!

  • @reaver9
    @reaver9 6 месяцев назад +1

    Guys hands down this is the top car channel- the humor, thedepth of reviews without sugar coating and quality of the footage - all superb. Keep it up!

  • @antaldamian
    @antaldamian 8 месяцев назад +2

    it's always such a pleasure to see your videos. they just keep getting better and better. Congrats to the TH team!!

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s 8 месяцев назад +23

    The "screw that used to be attached to the car" is friggin hilarious. That's the most "British car" thing I've ever seen. 🤣

  • @kjyu
    @kjyu 8 месяцев назад +25

    671HP is 500kW that's why the number!

    • @kyzer97320
      @kyzer97320 8 месяцев назад

      Noooooo just nooooo😂 it's because of slight differences between hp in europe and us.

  • @icriou
    @icriou 8 месяцев назад +2

    The production level, humor and the depth of the review are so good!

  • @homefish2031
    @homefish2031 8 месяцев назад +1

    What an amazing video you guys do such a good job at actually capturing the essence of every car without sounding like the pamphlet from the factory. Also I love the Delta Integrale gauge on Thomas's shirt

  • @somerandomfella
    @somerandomfella 8 месяцев назад +81

    Surely Maclaren can allocate some money to quality control by now..

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase 8 месяцев назад +1

      Surely.

    • @TML34
      @TML34 8 месяцев назад +10

      @@junyaiwaseThey can’t and stop calling me Shirley.

    • @davu6712
      @davu6712 8 месяцев назад +1

      these are bespoke low volume cars, these things will always happen

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@TML34 sorry 🥲

    • @rotoehu9266
      @rotoehu9266 8 месяцев назад +4

      McLaren Automative are broke. This maybe the model that finishes them off if it isn’t a success. Almost everyone loves how a McLaren drives but it would seem to date very few owners are prepared to stay with the brand after what is often awful ownership experience due to poor quality topped off by abysmal resale when they’ve finally had enough.

  • @IDv8I
    @IDv8I 8 месяцев назад +48

    How well do the manufacturers take you taking the piss out of them all the time, lol? I do love the wit and detail of all your reviews, from a grocery getter to a supercar, thanks boys.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 8 месяцев назад +9

      They just recommended it, and in addition to that conditioned McLaren's customers to give them a lot of leeway and not complain even if the cars are incredibly unreliable...any manufacturer would thank them for that!

    • @LanguagesWithAndrew
      @LanguagesWithAndrew 8 месяцев назад

      Well, we know that BMW has bitched at them about how much they complain about their cars' aesthetic because they've outright mentioned it on the channel.

    • @IDv8I
      @IDv8I 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@LanguagesWithAndrew Well, I think we all agree BMW deserved that. They spoke about how they would say it like it is on the Smoking Tire podcast. So respect.

  • @pm9625
    @pm9625 8 месяцев назад +3

    This production level is just incredible. Thank you all for what you do, we all win because you guys work hard

  • @stevedance9981
    @stevedance9981 7 месяцев назад

    i've always loved cars
    your videos are really awesome
    and honestly i've never truly felt the great sense of majestic, presence, the attraction to a car from any videos except your videos. The production quality is unmatched and is very very clear you guys put a lot of efforts into making these videos
    keep up with the amazing work you do!

  • @anuragmathur4358
    @anuragmathur4358 8 месяцев назад +11

    Bought my Artura in Feb in Toronto. It does have "quirks" but the driving experience is insane.....no matter what speed or road you are on. The car is brilliant! This car is all about how it makes you feel. If that is what you are looking for, then have a drive in it. There are times it has some issues (i.e. entertainment display does not come on) but there are workarounds (just do a hard reset by holding down the home button). But when you put it in track mode.....it's a perfect drivers car. The option of driving in electric downtown Toronto, not disturbing anyone, is fantastic.
    Well done TH for an honest review.

    • @ThrottleHouse
      @ThrottleHouse  8 месяцев назад +5

      That’s epic man hope you continue to enjoy it! What colour did you pick?

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 8 месяцев назад +2

      Quirks

    • @anuragmathur4358
      @anuragmathur4358 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@ThrottleHouse Elite Plateaux Grey. Would love to show it to you guys and give you my thoughts on the car and real world driving. Given we live in the same city.

    • @teddieteds9913
      @teddieteds9913 8 месяцев назад +1

      I love eclectic driving in Toronto. The city is famous for it. Some corners are taken like a soccer mom and the next moment you're charging down the street like an F1 driver.

    • @anuragmathur4358
      @anuragmathur4358 8 месяцев назад

      Quirks because it does not take away from the driving experience. The 4th 911 (992S) I had prior to Artura had a transmission issue in the first 2 months where a new one needed to be shipped from Germany to replace it. That is a serious issue vs a quirk requiring the screen to be rebooted. I love Porsche but a lot of the issues I had with the 911's were kept under wraps. @@kraenk12

  • @souliyachittarath4407
    @souliyachittarath4407 8 месяцев назад +7

    Kinda sad that TH didn’t clarify that the the screw is critical to the infotainment. It is known as the infotainment screwed.

  • @mabedfo
    @mabedfo 8 месяцев назад +3

    I just love the throttle house guys style of reviewing cars. Canadian and Englishman, such good chemistry together, always entertaining, great opinions.

  • @israelparedesmorales61
    @israelparedesmorales61 8 месяцев назад

    Love the honest reviews, keep it up!

  • @davidbee9563
    @davidbee9563 8 месяцев назад +17

    There are certain markets which tax/limit cars according to specs. Hence the previous crop of sub 4 litre turbo supercars. Now sub 3 litre v6 models with hybrid assist. Or quotes of a number when clearly the power train produces much more. Not unlike the Japanese limit of 280ish hp 30 years ago. As long as the cars are good it doesn't really matter, unless you are GM selling a 6 litre n/a v8 worldwide.

  • @endorphinity
    @endorphinity 8 месяцев назад +8

    Well, guys, you two are the most poetic car journalists I've ever seen. Bravo and thanks for this state-of-the-art review.

  • @lasseblomqvist9378
    @lasseblomqvist9378 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for yet another epic review. 🙏
    Just watched the launch event for the new Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale. What a beautiful vehicle. They talked a lot about the importance of dreaming at the event and the dream that instantly popped up in my head was not to drive it myself, but for you guys, the Throttle House team, to come here to Europe and review that amazing piece of machinery on some twisty Italian roads. That is how close to the heart your reviews have become. ❤

  • @Edu.3
    @Edu.3 8 месяцев назад +2

    The fact that we get to watch this level of production on YT is astounding. I love the work TH is putting into quality.

  • @petezee6645
    @petezee6645 8 месяцев назад +64

    So many reviews of British made cars start with a pisstake of their reliability. A8 did a great Range Rover Sport review that started with it arriving on a tow truck 😂

    • @ThomasTheTankEngine22
      @ThomasTheTankEngine22 8 месяцев назад +2

      Because, generally speaking and with few exceptions, British cars are some of the most unreliable pieces of trash on the roads. No matter the cost

    • @LeonRivia
      @LeonRivia 8 месяцев назад +2

      🤣🤣

  • @j.mo22
    @j.mo22 8 месяцев назад +5

    the production level you guys did on this video is top notch compared to the past ones. this has hagerty feels. really takes it to a different level.

  • @jacques8762
    @jacques8762 8 месяцев назад +1

    You guys are such an inspiration
    And the intro is superb.

  • @surfer101ist
    @surfer101ist 8 месяцев назад +1

    Shoutout to the editing crew. Getting better and better! The hype montage was sick 👍

  • @Driven-Productions
    @Driven-Productions 8 месяцев назад +5

    Amazing content guys. You nail it every time. Did I hear you say this was your first McLaren review?

  • @diluxe
    @diluxe 8 месяцев назад +3

    If mclaren can't sort the quality issues out on the review cars what hope is there for customers cars.

  • @thedavenaugler
    @thedavenaugler 3 месяца назад

    You guys are so easy to listen to! It’s enjoyable to listen to you guys review a vehicle. Definitely puts a smile on my face! Change nothing, keep everything!

  • @m0e87
    @m0e87 8 месяцев назад

    What an amazing video, well done!!! Videography, sound,.... Top notch!

  • @R8andGT3Fan
    @R8andGT3Fan 8 месяцев назад +5

    I think the 296 and this are not rivals, despite technical similarities...this is "the baby McL", the 570S successor. 488/F8/296 are on 720S/750S territory.
    Loved the sincere review! Keep doing this, guys!

  • @johnnyxp64
    @johnnyxp64 8 месяцев назад +6

    Policeman: sir i pulled you over because you were speeding do you know how fast you were going?
    McLaren owners: no idea officer if you could tell me would appreciate it by screens are off again can't see a dm thing 😂

  • @g.r.2985
    @g.r.2985 8 месяцев назад

    Another sweet review, guys! Having watched most of your reviews, always amazes me that OEMs even let you drive their cars anymore (Mercedes and "Plugs are for Butts" comes to mind), but that must be the power of quality reviews and subs. But on that note, must be getting old to hear how good your reviews are. Keep up the great work, boys!

  • @stefantorozov7508
    @stefantorozov7508 8 месяцев назад

    The beginning of the video with the car introduction is definitely bringing old Top Gear vibes, outstanding video as always. You are definitely the best car review channel out there.

  • @douglasdale8592
    @douglasdale8592 8 месяцев назад +12

    Your editor needs a raise after this masterpiece!

    • @Kevin-xv2nh
      @Kevin-xv2nh 8 месяцев назад

      What's his salary now? 🤔

  • @jonathancollard3710
    @jonathancollard3710 8 месяцев назад +6

    I’m sticking with my 570 Spider. 4.5 years of ownership and no issues. My advice; buy the car into its 2nd year of manufacture so all the niggles have been ironed out. Same happened with 12C and the 720S…. Overall a stupendous drivers car and yes, the steering is sublime and I don’t need more than 570 horses to have fun at twice the legal U.K. speed limit. Deffo a keeper now I cancelled my Emira order….

    • @macbooker
      @macbooker 6 месяцев назад

      Good call. Emira sucks big time, you dodged a bullet. So many issues.

    • @dns9155
      @dns9155 4 месяца назад

      @@macbookerreally? What are the issues?

    • @macbooker
      @macbooker 4 месяца назад

      @@dns9155 yeah, software updates, battery not recharging, engine going into limp mode. It is fun when it works, but sucks when issues happen.

  • @kellingtonlink956
    @kellingtonlink956 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for yet another … perfect video guys! The music, the filming, the edits and… especially the banter (and honesty)… were sensationally well thought out. I don’t necessarily agree with you both on disregarding the questionable reliability/fit & finish… ‘issues’. But by the end of the video, I reluctantly thought… ‘maybe’ it makes makes some sort of sense. Cheers.

  • @sulman36
    @sulman36 8 месяцев назад +1

    Give your production team a raise, awesome job as always👊

  • @philipschrantz8402
    @philipschrantz8402 8 месяцев назад +4

    A beautiful car, but the argument “But it’s got great dynamics” just doesn’t cut it. After all, that’s the fundamental premise of the car. Why should anyone accept faults from a $200,000 car that they’d be enraged over in a $30,000 daily driver? Worse, McLaren knows their cars are poorly built and seem to remain arrogantly unconcerned. The web is full of examples of horror stories regarding McLaren’s shoddy service and poor treatment of their customers. If I ever reach an understanding with the lottery commission, McLaren will not be on my shopping list…😎

    • @stupidmemes3955
      @stupidmemes3955 8 месяцев назад

      u get faults from most supercars now adays. and the ones that run fine are usually the bland and boring ones

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 8 месяцев назад +7

    The intro is never change at all 😂👍

  • @sgttomas
    @sgttomas 8 месяцев назад +1

    Absolutely EPIC into!!! Glad to see your ambitions taking shape 😊

  • @MohammadHamad
    @MohammadHamad 8 месяцев назад

    Man you guys are absolutely killing it with the filming quality. This is prime Top Gear style content!!!

  • @JemaKnight
    @JemaKnight 8 месяцев назад +26

    671 hp = 500 kW (rounded to the nearest whole number)
    No idea *why* that's being used as a figure though. Might mean something to the regulations of some market it gets exported to, carried into other markets the same way as with Japanese automakers agreeing to limit cars to 276 hp / 206kW. Something that still occurs even on non-Japanese automakers, long after the "agreement" has ended.
    Or, might just be a nice round number close _enough_ to the average output of the engines that it's just what they went with.

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL 8 месяцев назад

      maybe to offset the "quirks" aka issues in the quality. ironically 671 is more precise than 500... 500 is what you say when you dont know what it makes but you have an idea based on the parts... so 500. other than 671 because thats what the dyno said or you actually know EXACTLY the PRECISE figures.

    • @Ovenman940
      @Ovenman940 8 месяцев назад +1

      I guess engineers use kW because it's easier to do maths for acceleration, etc., and the early planning stages of what a car will be and where it will sit in the market are based around things like number of seats, number of doors... and where the power should be. The engine could do more but it sacrifices other factors, so the rough number becomes the exact number.

    • @kyzer97320
      @kyzer97320 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@Ovenman940 680 metric hp is just equal to 671 imperial hp. That's it.

  • @Smilingpolitely553
    @Smilingpolitely553 8 месяцев назад +49

    Funny how much hate the new NSX got and now everyone is copying their homework

    • @dengernoodle4391
      @dengernoodle4391 8 месяцев назад +6

      Like how the NSX was copying the p1’s homework?

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 8 месяцев назад +8

      No-one is copying NSX, and the NSX was criticised for very good reason.

    • @GVIrish
      @GVIrish 8 месяцев назад +10

      The NSX weighed 600 lbs more than this car and had 3 motors to the Artura's one. McLaren (and Ferrari) recognized that extra motors and electric thrust aren't worth the weight penalty, they definitely did not follow Honda's lead. They already understood before the NSX even got launched.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 8 месяцев назад +3

      The NSX was criticised for being no NSX.

    • @Smilingpolitely553
      @Smilingpolitely553 8 месяцев назад

      Fair but also in a completely different class of car.

  • @HamzaMalik89
    @HamzaMalik89 8 месяцев назад +1

    video production quality is on another level! wow!

  • @JerryCarterJr-kg7hq
    @JerryCarterJr-kg7hq 8 месяцев назад +2

    Just received my Artura on Saturday so far no issues. I agree with you both, it is truly a great car

  • @DanDoesGame
    @DanDoesGame 8 месяцев назад +4

    LOL!! The intro.... Kinda stinks that the new car is having issues. Back to square one I guess with McLaren. I thought they had resolved there issues (why I edited this comment) didn't see the parts of you showing all the broken stuff 🤣🤣

  • @zn9861
    @zn9861 8 месяцев назад +4

    Love your honesty!

  • @SmolPotatowo
    @SmolPotatowo 8 месяцев назад

    I don't usually like skits in videos but I always watch yours! Always funny and it never drags on too long.

  • @BattyMckicknPunch
    @BattyMckicknPunch 8 месяцев назад

    Best edit of a TH episode yet. James’ solo ride was epic. Beautiful. 👌🏻

  • @nickt4731
    @nickt4731 8 месяцев назад +47

    This is unacceptable. Maybe if McLaren did make some SUVs they would have some money for some okay quality control.

    • @MrMlbfan6
      @MrMlbfan6 8 месяцев назад +4

      Not really lol

    • @user-pd8fj6np1k
      @user-pd8fj6np1k 8 месяцев назад +5

      What are you talking about?? British car manufactures has never ever was friends with word *reliability*. If Mclaren ever build an SUV,than it's still will be with poor quality and reliability issues. Mclaren is British,what else you can expect from them?🤣🤣Love the F1 tho))🙃

    • @nickt4731
      @nickt4731 8 месяцев назад +3

      I understand we're both of you are saying truly I do. But McLaren seems to be especially bad when it comes to reliability and problems. And dealing with those problems. Jay Emm on cars made several videos about several poor experiences dealing with McLaren. As consumers who are spending such a large amount of money on cars, people should demand better. A car that costs 1/15 as much should not be better put together, and I'm not sure why people make excuses for them.

    • @dengernoodle4391
      @dengernoodle4391 8 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe they should make physical buttons so you don’t lose everything at once when the infotainment overheats

    • @MLHunt
      @MLHunt 8 месяцев назад +1

      Land Rover resents your comment

  • @Luke-cb3ly
    @Luke-cb3ly 8 месяцев назад +13

    the reason people say the Artura doesn't compete with the 296 is because the 296 is way more expensive, and it's faster than the 765LT in the 1/4 mile or a rolling race. if the 296GTB is faster than the 765LT it means the performance difference between the 296 and the Artura is huge, so they aren't even in the same category

    • @dhanu_4539
      @dhanu_4539 8 месяцев назад +1

      I don't know, you could say it's a budget 296. Speed isn't everything and both of them are next generation hybrid supercars. I think this could give the 296 a run for it's money but not with these kinds of reliability issues. Anyways I prefer the 296 it looks much more special than this generic McLaren look

    • @chisomezekude9977
      @chisomezekude9977 8 месяцев назад

      It’s not about the speed now it’s the driver engagement. The depth of it is crazy

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@dhanu_4539 anything beyond 600hp is more then fast enough to be honest you would get more pleasure from handaling and engagement the artura is a great car but the reliability issue really needs to get solve it gets old real quick when your ac or sound system dont work of you dont get acess to your cluster or the hybrid system just decide to shit the bed when your out around town driving your brand spanking new supercar.

    • @dc-fc7tp
      @dc-fc7tp 8 месяцев назад +1

      imo it competes with the mc-20 both v6 in the same price bracket.

    • @dhanu_4539
      @dhanu_4539 8 месяцев назад

      @@dc-fc7tp the MC 20 is old fashioned even for previous generation cars. It's a different category because it's a different kind of driving experience not because of the price or the engine. And I'm not saying the MC 20 is bad, if you buy a hybrid super car you'll be dealing with much higher repair and maintenance costs compared something like the MC 20

  • @HemiHalfCentury
    @HemiHalfCentury 8 месяцев назад

    THE FACT THAT THIS IS FREE ON RUclips IS MIND BOGGLING. THE PRODUCTION QUALITY IN THE FIRST 2 MINUTES IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING SHORT OF MAHBE TOP GEAR IVE EVER SEEN ON TV YOUVE OUTDONE YOURSELVES I CANT WAIT TO SEE YALL BLOW TF UP EVEN MORE

  • @krabo83
    @krabo83 8 месяцев назад +1

    that intro was just brilliant! you guy's are the PR-departments worst nightmare... keep up the great and honest reviews.

  • @drjk7565
    @drjk7565 8 месяцев назад +55

    I think Thomas was on the verge of tears when he talks about the steering feedback of the Artura, but given it's hydraulic I'd say it's almost an unfair advantage in a world where everyone else uses electric steering racks. I imagine every modern car he reviews after this (and the Emira) is going to disappoint him.

    • @dnice362
      @dnice362 8 месяцев назад +7

      Not unfair. Mclaren are phenomenal

    • @vertrox3435
      @vertrox3435 8 месяцев назад +21

      You’re right, it’s *almost* unfair. Thing is, there’s nothing stopping other manufacturers from using hydraulic racks (except their apparent disregard for driver experience)

    • @BERZERKERSV4
      @BERZERKERSV4 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@dnice362
      it's all BS.. these cars are owned/driven by posers whereby the car sounds more time parked in the garage and the owners spend more time bragging at the local pub..

    • @proinseasokiellig4388
      @proinseasokiellig4388 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@BERZERKERSV4 BOLLOX

    • @AI-qd4vb
      @AI-qd4vb 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@proinseasokiellig4388what is? These cats should live at the tracks, yet they're seen more often at the bars...

  • @jansvoboda3954
    @jansvoboda3954 8 месяцев назад +14

    Pretty sure you guys have more quality control on these videos than McLaren on their cars.

  • @NvSrAgE679
    @NvSrAgE679 8 месяцев назад

    Two of my favourite people. You guys are awesome. And somehow you keep getting better on the production.

  • @fifieuskadi
    @fifieuskadi 8 месяцев назад +1

    As always, TOP NOTCH reviews with TOP NOTCH video editing! Thank you and keep up with the great work!

  • @Cameron08_
    @Cameron08_ 8 месяцев назад +7

    How does a gauge cluster overheat😅

    • @CJ-ui4tg
      @CJ-ui4tg 8 месяцев назад +1

      Maybe has Google Chrome with 100 tabs

  • @BallinArbiter
    @BallinArbiter 8 месяцев назад +8

    I would have liked to hear how this compares to the Maserati MC20. Which seems to be the closest competitor to this price wise.

    • @agentpt
      @agentpt 7 месяцев назад

      Maseratis never fail to disappoint unlike this MGEx

    • @BallinArbiter
      @BallinArbiter 7 месяцев назад

      @@agentpt Eh I disagree. Most of their cars aren’t great yeah but I’ve only heard good things about the MC-20.

  • @spb78art
    @spb78art 8 месяцев назад +1

    The cinematography of this review is outstanding

  • @slimuttam
    @slimuttam 8 месяцев назад +1

    Can RUclips have a "love" option instead of just a like? Your videos are beyond amazing and I don't know about Thomas, but I literally had tears watching him talk about how good the driving experience was. Throttle House is the best!

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint 8 месяцев назад +3

    90 seconds in and Karston has already blown me away with the edit. We don’t deserve such a legend.

  • @xxpforgie
    @xxpforgie 8 месяцев назад +5

    You guys never dissapoint😂

  • @Sumdumdad
    @Sumdumdad 8 месяцев назад

    Brutal intro!
    Love it!

  • @b145701s
    @b145701s 8 месяцев назад

    These guys are the only reason i watch RUclips on my tv, great videos! Hope we will see more normal cars as well i love to see you guys review those due to your brutal honesty and your brilliant comedy!

  • @blaketindle4703
    @blaketindle4703 8 месяцев назад +3

    Tyler Hoover has a future hooptie to buy in ten years! Heck, maybe five lol

  • @0riginal_panda_child249
    @0riginal_panda_child249 8 месяцев назад +4

    "It's the for McLaren experience" 😂

  • @Mokster43
    @Mokster43 8 месяцев назад +1

    This review makes me even more excited to see your purchase and review of your Lotus Emira!

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr 8 месяцев назад

    really enjoy your content

  • @arierickson6137
    @arierickson6137 8 месяцев назад +5

    I wonder if that 671 hp figure is like a "gentlemen's agreement" type deal of some sort. Or maybe it's high enough a number for the lower model cars to sound wildly impressive but low enough that 700+ sounds absolutely unbelievable. Idk but that's odd.

    • @ralfrudi3963
      @ralfrudi3963 8 месяцев назад +3

      671 bhp is just an odd number in the imperial system. 671 bhp is about 680 metric horsepower (yes, there is a tiny difference) and about 500 kW, which is the unit most likely to be used by the engineers. So they went for a nice round number in 500 kW and then the marketing department has to convert it to the odd 671 bhp.

    • @AbrahamArthemius
      @AbrahamArthemius 8 месяцев назад +2

      It's just the converted number from 500kW. Nothing special about honestly.

    • @arierickson6137
      @arierickson6137 8 месяцев назад

      @@ralfrudi3963 ohhhh ok I see I didn't realize that! Thanks for clarifying! :)

    • @baoquoc3710
      @baoquoc3710 8 месяцев назад

      it's now feel like the Japanese gentleman's 276HP standard all over again, just now had been raised accordingly

    • @arierickson6137
      @arierickson6137 8 месяцев назад

      @@baoquoc3710 yea that's kinda what I'm saying like I'm understanding the 500 kw conversion now that it was explained but why are most cars making 500 kw?! I think it might just be an industry thing where nobody wants to set the power precedent for their brand so high that they can't reach it with all their models.

  • @snacking5908
    @snacking5908 8 месяцев назад +9

    “You didn’t tell me how realistic it was… I’ve broken down 5 times”
    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @LF-du4uc
    @LF-du4uc 8 месяцев назад +1

    Well If the quality of the car is garbage, the production quality of TH videos is through the roof. Keep it up guys!

  • @RobinSingh-lf3iq
    @RobinSingh-lf3iq 8 месяцев назад

    James has come a long way. One of the best car reviewers imo. Thomas is also right up there. Love seeing the passion in your videos. Keep it up as always!

    • @your-neighbor
      @your-neighbor 7 месяцев назад

      They come in pair and do the reviews in pair, stop trying to individually compare them, it's an abomination.

  • @Drew_Koch
    @Drew_Koch 8 месяцев назад +3

    Wonderful review as always. Stupid tech for tech/cheapness sake. I hate it so much. I didn't even think about the fact that the displays could potentially overheat and shutoff. HVAC controls absolutely should be a physical control. Even the interface, why swipe up? Why can't you just touch it? Completely diverts the driver's attention from driving. And yes, those thick bezels look terrible.

  • @jamesbarbato2192
    @jamesbarbato2192 8 месяцев назад +4

    One of my customers purchased a McLaren 3 months later when I saw him again he said he sold it because of the quality issues and constant problems.

  • @eazydoesit276
    @eazydoesit276 8 месяцев назад

    I love how popular, yet honest this Channel is !!

  • @jayymac
    @jayymac 8 месяцев назад +1

    BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO. Production quality and editing keep out-doing themselves every single time. It’s like watching the original Top Gear in 2023. Writing and presentation is emotional. Chemistry is great. Jokes are great. Honesty is great. I could watch reviews like this all day, every day. Best automotive RUclipsrs in the game. How do you not have your own network show by now???

  • @EdSalyards
    @EdSalyards 8 месяцев назад +8

    Beautiful car. No way I'd take this over a Turbo S. Reliability is just not there in this vehicle. I would take the Lotus over this as well just for the manual engagement. Still a very nice car.

    • @07Lightless
      @07Lightless 8 месяцев назад

      I mean the turbo S isn’t the most reliable car in the world either but it’s better than this lol

  • @phillipthomas118
    @phillipthomas118 8 месяцев назад +5

    😂 great intro😂 beautiful car but I’ll pass if it has that many issues.

    • @khoanguyen1176
      @khoanguyen1176 8 месяцев назад

      You would still pass if it didnt have any issues.

  • @junaidjunaid5574
    @junaidjunaid5574 8 месяцев назад

    Insane top quality production guys!!!

  • @william.hannan
    @william.hannan 8 месяцев назад +1

    Finally, McLaren is represented. I have a McLaren since 2021 and I haven’t had any issues at all. The car is solid. Anytime James and Thomas are in Carlsbad, if I’m around, they can test drive my 2020 McLaren 600LT Spider. While I appreciate the compliments in driving the Artura, I think they will have a new found appreciation for McLaren after testing the 600LT. McLaren offers different experiences depending on the car. I have only run into a handful of McLaren owners who felt like they bought a car with mechanical issues. Those were all very early MP4-12C models. I hope they choose to review more since I love their take on things. Including the silly messing about. Keep it up guys. Very entertaining.