My avg combined is 47.7mpg, 2007 E60 stock everything! Takes a motorway trip 3-4 times a week 30mi each way. Using cheap diesel at that. Just thrown some fuel system cleaner through it in the month I have had the thing, when I got it it was running at around 35mpg! These are ace cars! So happy I bought it!
On a 400 km trip with my x3 -08 2.0d I had 5.0 l/100 km... On the way back with an about 1050 kg tandem caravan from -86 I had about 7.5 l/100 km. I was a little bit surprised that I was almost alone all day and half night on the road. Now I talk about the southern part of Sweden about one month ago...
After remove EGR and DPF, Emission will be higher yes?? How it will be on MOT?? They will test your Emission?? I don't remember if they test emission in Diesel Car or Petrol.
Dpf removal is illegal... egr not so but will fail if missing for inspection... there are kits to block ports and de code egr so it doesn’t open at all which is the preferred method. If any visible gas is seen during test its auto fail... dpf removal will deffo allow soot to leave the system to the atmosphere... passing the eyes of the inspecting mot guy. So I would advise looking at your air inlet snorkel that meets the grills as normally they only have one of the inlet actually open... take a dremel and ream out the closed side to match and you’ll notice the difference, also smooth out the air box housing internally and trim internal snorkel(s) also if preferred. Keep the air inlet as it stops hot air from entering your system which kills power effortlessly... panel filter was best option. A bottle of Wynns gold helps and walnut blasting is a blessing. Use good fuels but treat your to special fuel cleaners to keep jets ect shiny-ish. 😉 Dark developments have a beautiful turbo kit and lots of other bits you would find very interesting. Let me know if any of this helps you... kyl.
Probably not, depending how old your car is the mot tester will looking for tampering on the DPF, not sure how they view EGR removal. I have been warned thought that rules are getting a lot stricter on emissions equipment. It’s already illegal but not really heard of it being enforced.
Great Job George!! Keep on doing it! Does the egr or/and dpf removal affects your MOT (emissions check) or something? I did EGR delete and a stage 1 remapping that came with it however I am still months away from my MOT check up. Always appreciate your advise mate. Cheers
@@CostelTarata Haha, if your engine is obviously running rough or has smoke out the rear then perhaps you'll have an issue. Looking to get this done myself.
@@ThatCampingLad i have no issues mate, no smoke coming out, however sometimes, when the engine is cold, there is a nasty smell coming out the exhaust, ammonia like.
Hey bud. I have a 2015 328d. Just had the recall done on the transfer case and cv joints. But the car still seems kind of “clunky” for lack of a better word. The main thing I notice is when slowing for a turn on red without coming to a complete stop, when I start to pull away again, it’s as if the car is caught with its pants down for a split second. In my mind the car can’t decide whether to downshift to first or hold onto second until I decide to go and that’s when it immediately tries to jump back into first. In doing so, the car kinda jolts into motion. Very frustrating.
Hi George, where would I be able to find an EGR delete kit in South Africa? Just did my engine over (Notorious N47 timing chain snapped, bent valves etc...), This is how I started watching your channel. Thanx for all your videos by the way, you helped me rebuild my engine. Watching this particular video, I can relate, I found this thick black soot you speak of in my intake manifold, cleaned it up beautifully before reinstalling, but want to delete the EGR now to avoid it sooting up again. Also noticed a very strange phenomenon with my car, EXTREMELY poor fuel efficiency for Diesel in town and EXTREMELY excellent fuel efficiency on the freeway, which makes me believe your theory of hot gas entering the intake between 1000/2000RPM with the EGR which is generally the rev range used in town driving. My car gives 9-10km/l in town and 27km/l on highway @ any speed between 130-160km/h, over 160km/h it gets around 21km/l and over 180km/h gets 19km/l any other reason it would be so heavy in town? CAT and DPF removed, Turbo reconditioned and now that the head is completely rebuilt, everything should work perfectly, but still poor fuel efficiency in town.
@@GeorgeAusters Hi George, thank you, watched it and got the link to Darkside Developments. Just one question, if I delete the EGR ONLY, do I have to remap? (I did not see or hear you mention a remap on the N47 you did, but I did hear you mention a remap on I think it as an M47/57 if I'm not mistaken) Please confirm N47 320D, does it need a remap after the delete?
Hi George, I have a 2014 318d touring and just recently changed the air filter to a K&N. Always used them on my cars and motorbikes, but using it on this engine gave me 10mpg less and didn’t notice any noticeable change at all in power gain. I checked the K&N website to make sure I had the correct one which I have. What difference have you noticed from using K&N?
I’ve had the EGR software on my 220d mapped out. Will the intake manifold kind of “self clean” over time now? Or will it need manual cleaning in the future
Hi George. Can you please help me with some info? Please need required compression specs for the n47. I will be doing a compression test but not sure what results I need to get? Please help. Regards Jacques
my dad changes up as soon as possible and the engine is slightly being lugged - he thinks less revs means less fuel, he clearly got his foot welded to the floor to stop a stall at 20 mph in the bends
I installed a Mishimoto oil catch can setup on my 2017 328d. FaRKle0079 has a great tutorial video and links to his setup that I followed. Simple easy solution for eliminating oil buildup in the intake. Definitely doing an EGR delete next.
hey george, i like the video but i dont want to remove my egr and dpf, but from what i know u can set the procentage of egr activation in ISTA 40 or 0 or something like that and it will stay closed longer. any help?
It is not necessary to remove it, no, however if it is broken then it makes sense to remove it. Some people just like to remove it because they dont like having extra equipment on their engine that is not needed.
Have you considered an oil catch can? I am aware it is not damaging without the presence of soot, i was just thinking it could improve efficiency if you are not burning oil
I don't think any oil catch can would have OEM fittings for this engine bay. Anyway, having removed the EGR things, you could use longer bolts from delete plates to install an oil catch can.
Max Har you would not want to mount it in place of the EGR due to the heat, it would be best placed next to the coolant reservoir as this is as far as possible from the engine. As for fittings, the top hose is essentially a barb, so i would use a hose and a jubilee clip. The bottom end of the hose however is a female connection, so i would probably find a way to connect to the OEM Hose, whether this be with a barb or AN fitting, or something different.
@@brodiehaward As long as you avoid the exhaust side of the engine, the best place for an oil catch can is where you can install it steady. The EGR cooler bolts, side of the intake manifold, is maybe at 70-80°C when the engine is hot. It is enough "cold". This engine bay seems dense, I am not sure you can install correctly the oil catch can near the coolant reservoir. " The bottom end of the hose however is a female connection " for me, no. The OEM breather hose has an external joint so it enters into a female connector, what I call male ... Note : If you buy this breather hose on internet, it may arrive without the joint, which is wrong. Note2 : the F20 breather hose has a bent top connector (which is female). It may be used to go in any side direction taking care it is not interfering with the engine cover or other hoses, and the hose diameter is smaller (20mm instead 21mm). Ref 13717823517 bent connector and 13717803842 straight connector
Thanks George. I like the idea of a Stage 1 remap on my N47 (130KW). It is from 2010, and done 126k miles. Do you think I should avoid a remap at that age and miles thanks?
@@Kersomatic I did get a Stage 1 remap back in September. I got a carbon clean at the same time (who knows - probably emporer's new clothes). They coded the EGR off too and I inserted a specific thin stop plate inline in case the EGR was stuck open. Dream. Like a new car! Circa 177 to 220bhp
If I remove egr will engine light show error? If it does then simply clearing the code wont help.. the error will show up again unless it is mapped out. Am I right in thinking that? What about MOT inspection?? Thanks
Garages and testing stations will be required check for a diesel particulate filter (DPF) in the inspection of the exhaust system as part of the MOT test (or annual test for heavy vehicles) from February 2014. The vehicle will automatically fail the MOT test if the filter had been fitted as standard but is found to be no longer present
removing your EGR and D.P.F filter is a mot failure 100 %, and I think it's illegal to modify these systems them can lead to some very big fines ££££ same with catalytic converters, but who going to enforce it just saying, and there's no need to remove your d.p.f if it's not blocked or restricted
From my point of view in a civilized country. As England believes, the car should be confiscated if you are caught on public roads with DPF and EGR cancelled. Peace
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My avg combined is 47.7mpg, 2007 E60 stock everything! Takes a motorway trip 3-4 times a week 30mi each way. Using cheap diesel at that. Just thrown some fuel system cleaner through it in the month I have had the thing, when I got it it was running at around 35mpg!
These are ace cars! So happy I bought it!
Brilliant advise George, because of you I've removed my EGR & it's had a remap & I feel as though I have a new car, thanks to you mate.
Good stuff mate, glad to hear!
On a 400 km trip with my x3 -08 2.0d I had 5.0 l/100 km... On the way back with an about 1050 kg tandem caravan from -86 I had about 7.5 l/100 km.
I was a little bit surprised that I was almost alone all day and half night on the road. Now I talk about the southern part of Sweden about one month ago...
After remove EGR and DPF, Emission will be higher yes?? How it will be on MOT?? They will test your Emission?? I don't remember if they test emission in Diesel Car or Petrol.
Dpf removal is illegal... egr not so but will fail if missing for inspection... there are kits to block ports and de code egr so it doesn’t open at all which is the preferred method.
If any visible gas is seen during test its auto fail... dpf removal will deffo allow soot to leave the system to the atmosphere... passing the eyes of the inspecting mot guy.
So I would advise looking at your air inlet snorkel that meets the grills as normally they only have one of the inlet actually open... take a dremel and ream out the closed side to match and you’ll notice the difference, also smooth out the air box housing internally and trim internal snorkel(s) also if preferred. Keep the air inlet as it stops hot air from entering your system which kills power effortlessly... panel filter was best option.
A bottle of Wynns gold helps and walnut blasting is a blessing. Use good fuels but treat your to special fuel cleaners to keep jets ect shiny-ish. 😉
Dark developments have a beautiful turbo kit and lots of other bits you would find very interesting. Let me know if any of this helps you... kyl.
If I remove the EGR and DPF, emissions will be higher right? Would it still pass an MOT?
Probably not, depending how old your car is the mot tester will looking for tampering on the DPF, not sure how they view EGR removal. I have been warned thought that rules are getting a lot stricter on emissions equipment. It’s already illegal but not really heard of it being enforced.
Don't do it
EGR only reduces NO2 emissions, which aren’t tested for on a MOT, only CO2
So many good advice. Great help out bro🙌
Great Job George!!
Keep on doing it!
Does the egr or/and dpf removal affects your MOT (emissions check) or something?
I did EGR delete and a stage 1 remapping that came with it however I am still months away from my MOT check up.
Always appreciate your advise mate.
Cheers
I've read that it won't affect your MOT, it does change the emissions but a healthy engine should be fine. a DPF removal would though.
@@ThatCampingLad you mean a healthy engine would pass the “sniffing test” ?
Thanks for answering Ryan.
@@CostelTarata Haha, if your engine is obviously running rough or has smoke out the rear then perhaps you'll have an issue. Looking to get this done myself.
@@ThatCampingLad i have no issues mate, no smoke coming out, however sometimes, when the engine is cold, there is a nasty smell coming out the exhaust, ammonia like.
Hey bud. I have a 2015 328d. Just had the recall done on the transfer case and cv joints. But the car still seems kind of “clunky” for lack of a better word. The main thing I notice is when slowing for a turn on red without coming to a complete stop, when I start to pull away again, it’s as if the car is caught with its pants down for a split second. In my mind the car can’t decide whether to downshift to first or hold onto second until I decide to go and that’s when it immediately tries to jump back into first. In doing so, the car kinda jolts into motion. Very frustrating.
Hi George, where would I be able to find an EGR delete kit in South Africa? Just did my engine over (Notorious N47 timing chain snapped, bent valves etc...), This is how I started watching your channel. Thanx for all your videos by the way, you helped me rebuild my engine. Watching this particular video, I can relate, I found this thick black soot you speak of in my intake manifold, cleaned it up beautifully before reinstalling, but want to delete the EGR now to avoid it sooting up again. Also noticed a very strange phenomenon with my car, EXTREMELY poor fuel efficiency for Diesel in town and EXTREMELY excellent fuel efficiency on the freeway, which makes me believe your theory of hot gas entering the intake between 1000/2000RPM with the EGR which is generally the rev range used in town driving. My car gives 9-10km/l in town and 27km/l on highway @ any speed between 130-160km/h, over 160km/h it gets around 21km/l and over 180km/h gets 19km/l any other reason it would be so heavy in town?
CAT and DPF removed, Turbo reconditioned and now that the head is completely rebuilt, everything should work perfectly, but still poor fuel efficiency in town.
Watch my latest EGR delete video
@@GeorgeAusters Hi George, thank you, watched it and got the link to Darkside Developments. Just one question, if I delete the EGR ONLY, do I have to remap? (I did not see or hear you mention a remap on the N47 you did, but I did hear you mention a remap on I think it as an M47/57 if I'm not mistaken) Please confirm N47 320D, does it need a remap after the delete?
Yes it will need mapping out to get rid of the EML
Hi George, I have a 2014 318d touring and just recently changed the air filter to a K&N. Always used them on my cars and motorbikes, but using it on this engine gave me 10mpg less and didn’t notice any noticeable change at all in power gain. I checked the K&N website to make sure I had the correct one which I have. What difference have you noticed from using K&N?
It won’t be the air filter making you lose MPG
Potentially the oil from the air filter has gummed up the maf sensor, just pull it out and give a clean.
Getting a p406 code cleaned egr and cooler and still getting the code.
I’ve had the EGR software on my 220d mapped out. Will the intake manifold kind of “self clean” over time now? Or will it need manual cleaning in the future
Needs cleaning
After how many kilometers must you clean your intake?
So I have a n20 2014 428i stage 1 tune, and valvetronic muffler, I’m getting 14 mpg…..
Hi George. Can you please help me with some info? Please need required compression specs for the n47. I will be doing a compression test but not sure what results I need to get? Please help. Regards Jacques
can u make a vide about ista an how to reset the adaptions? and the benefits? like before and after?
Guessing you just failed the MoT? How did you pass?
Passes no issues
BMW 123d, what kind of MPG should you get?
Cheers
40-50
@@GeorgeAusters thanks dude
Been watching a few of your videos, great content 👌
Cheers!
my dad changes up as soon as possible and the engine is slightly being lugged - he thinks less revs means less fuel, he clearly got his foot welded to the floor to stop a stall at 20 mph in the bends
Yeah no fuel economy is all to do with pedal position.. the gearshift indicators are pretty accurate
Yeah no fuel economy is all to do with pedal position.. the gearshift indicators are pretty accurate
Thanks for the video. If I remove EGR valve will it effect MOT?
Should be fine
@@GeorgeAusters thanks 👍
I Cleaned the intake manifold/valves on my n57. I have been told the n47 doesn't need it. How bad was the intake?
Exactly same engine besides 2 cylinders so yes they need cleaning on both!
How are you passing your MOT with EGR delete and DPF removed
You shouldn’t have any problems if you engine is healthy. My car produces no smoke👍🏻
Do they do a gas emission check?
I installed a Mishimoto oil catch can setup on my 2017 328d. FaRKle0079 has a great tutorial video and links to his setup that I followed. Simple easy solution for eliminating oil buildup in the intake. Definitely doing an EGR delete next.
I’m getting 42mpg on long run on a 318d e90 is this normal just bought the car and did a full service with fuel filter and air filter changed.
Should be getting 50-60mpg at least
@@GeorgeAusters I would have thought so can u tell me how many miles are u getting from a full tank? I’m getting around 460-480 is this normal?
Does this apply the same for my msport 520D 2011 reg? Does that carry the second n47 engine and not the first n47 engine?
A response would be hugely appreciated thanks 😊
I think that would have the revised version N47D20C Engine
hey george, i like the video but i dont want to remove my egr and dpf, but from what i know u can set the procentage of egr activation in ISTA 40 or 0 or something like that and it will stay closed longer. any help?
My tuner just told me to leave the egr cooler on it. Since its closed all the time it should be ok?
It is not necessary to remove it, no, however if it is broken then it makes sense to remove it. Some people just like to remove it because they dont like having extra equipment on their engine that is not needed.
Have you considered an oil catch can? I am aware it is not damaging without the presence of soot, i was just thinking it could improve efficiency if you are not burning oil
I'd love one, but only one that has OEM fittings. I don't want a bodge job in my engine bay!
I don't think any oil catch can would have OEM fittings for this engine bay.
Anyway, having removed the EGR things, you could use longer bolts from delete plates to install an oil catch can.
Max Har you would not want to mount it in place of the EGR due to the heat, it would be best placed next to the coolant reservoir as this is as far as possible from the engine. As for fittings, the top hose is essentially a barb, so i would use a hose and a jubilee clip. The bottom end of the hose however is a female connection, so i would probably find a way to connect to the OEM Hose, whether this be with a barb or AN fitting, or something different.
@@brodiehaward
As long as you avoid the exhaust side of the engine, the best place for an oil catch can is where you can install it steady.
The EGR cooler bolts, side of the intake manifold, is maybe at 70-80°C when the engine is hot. It is enough "cold".
This engine bay seems dense, I am not sure you can install correctly the oil catch can near the coolant reservoir.
" The bottom end of the hose however is a female connection " for me, no. The OEM breather hose has an external joint so it enters into a female connector, what I call male ...
Note : If you buy this breather hose on internet, it may arrive without the joint, which is wrong.
Note2 : the F20 breather hose has a bent top connector (which is female). It may be used to go in any side direction taking care it is not interfering with the engine cover or other hoses, and the hose diameter is smaller (20mm instead 21mm).
Ref 13717823517 bent connector and 13717803842 straight connector
Thanks George. I like the idea of a Stage 1 remap on my N47 (130KW). It is from 2010, and done 126k miles. Do you think I should avoid a remap at that age and miles thanks?
You’ll be fine. Mine was done at 120k. Just make sure you fix the common issues that I talk about👍🏻
I did a remapt at 390k km
@@Kersomatic I did get a Stage 1 remap back in September. I got a carbon clean at the same time (who knows - probably emporer's new clothes). They coded the EGR off too and I inserted a specific thin stop plate inline in case the EGR was stuck open. Dream. Like a new car! Circa 177 to 220bhp
@@GeorgeAusters Hi George your videos are a goldmine👍, could you tell me the best place to purchase a recon intake manifold pls
@@mickmarshall3517 where did you had it done? How much please? Thanks
If I remove egr will engine light show error? If it does then simply clearing the code wont help.. the error will show up again unless it is mapped out.
Am I right in thinking that?
What about MOT inspection??
Thanks
Correct
Hey George, do you have a video deleting the DPF filter ?
ruclips.net/video/cZGoqSGmSb4/видео.html
@@GeorgeAusters Also, do you have to remap the car after deleting it ?
Garages and testing stations will be required check for a diesel particulate filter (DPF) in the inspection of the exhaust system as part of the MOT test (or annual test for heavy vehicles) from February 2014.
The vehicle will automatically fail the MOT test if the filter had been fitted as standard but is found to be no longer present
They can't check the inside so if it looks like its present then its fine
Until they start testing the DPF then it will fail. My neighbour is an MOT tester and he thinks this is coming within the next year or so.
@@wellsyandcars It's always been part of the MOT but if it looks like its there then it's fine
You pollute a lot without DPF and make us breathe your particles. Damn you
I thought removing the dpf was now illegal
Removing it has never been illegal, driving on the road when it should have one fitted has always been illegal
@@GeorgeAusters that’s what I meant pal, as unlikely to remove and not drive it , but was more referring to the stricter mot rules now regarding dpf’s
@@declanedwards1827 You should have no issues with MOT if it appears to be in place and your engine is healthy
Hi. I asked a question.....giving me a heart does not answer that question....
Better mpg? I like that
Yep!
What abaout the part numbers for closing the holes, when EGR(cooler) is removed?
removing your EGR and D.P.F filter is a mot failure 100 %, and I think it's illegal to modify these systems them can lead to some very big fines ££££ same with catalytic converters, but who going to enforce it just saying, and there's no need to remove your d.p.f if it's not blocked or restricted
👍🏼
From my point of view in a civilized country. As England believes, the car should be confiscated if you are caught on public roads with DPF and EGR cancelled.
Peace