AUTO FLEX Golf Shaft - SHOCKING RESULTS I Couldn't Believe

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • Finally, put the Auto Flex Shaft to the test and I couldn't believe what happened. #subscribe #mrshortgame
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  • @johnherman3261
    @johnherman3261 2 года назад +38

    If I were a pga professional I would have this shaft. Spending $1300.00 on a driver hitting the links once a week not practicable. Great informational video Matt, thanks. Love ya brother.

    • @tomhamrick7151
      @tomhamrick7151 2 года назад +1

      Yes, and if you did it your wife and kids would go away, your parents would disown you and all but the dumbest of your friends would disappear. if you are working for an oil company knocking down 250K a year maybe, but a good part of the above would still happen.

    • @Golf101inc
      @Golf101inc 2 года назад +8

      @@tomhamrick7151 wow that took a dark turn real fast 🤣

    • @bluragclk
      @bluragclk 2 года назад +2

      Not for nothing but if you were a PGA pro you would get a half a dozen of these shafts for free ! LOL that's just how the world works !

    • @dominicfrank77
      @dominicfrank77 2 года назад +1

      @@bluragclk Adam Scott gamed this for a couple tournaments and bailed on it. Kuch and others tried it and hated it.....I love it and have tested it with PGA guys.....its real. trackman backs it up.....course backs it up......4-5MPH faster swing to all who try it.....tighter spray......the only ones that don't get that response are those that don't bother getting the swing weight to a d0-d1 which is a must or it throws off the kick point. It comes with these instructions but even the great Rick Sheilds didn't bother to do before he trashed it. Watch the TXG guys.....they are who I heard about it from and got one from the company before it was "available" and its been in my bag EVER SINCE. I recently got the Ventus Black fitted with my new Stealth and while I LOVED the VB.....it got benched for the AF after a head to head.

    • @bluragclk
      @bluragclk 2 года назад

      @@dominicfrank77 I'm glad it worked out for you for some it has to be worth the dollar value to gain factor. My Ventus Velacore, (on a sim2 max) at $500.00 gained me 20+ yards and that was hard to justify but yeah that is a celling for shaft price imho. so now after spending $1300.00 on shaft you have to get an additional swing fitting for $175.00-$200.00 so that they can weighted to get its potential unleashed ?? again to some its an acceptable trade off to others not so much

  • @jacobmccain8082
    @jacobmccain8082 2 года назад +22

    Had mine a few months. Added 20 yards of carry to my driver. Definitely takes getting used to but it's a beast if you can time it.

    • @romeosalazar603
      @romeosalazar603 2 года назад

      If I may ask, where did you purchase it from? @Jacob McCain
      Thanks for the reply

  • @Dodgymansps
    @Dodgymansps 2 года назад +17

    Given driver distance has been maxed for years I find it amusing people still don’t mind buying a new driver for 500 believing it will help but a shaft with proven results is seen as excessive. Any club with that kind of distance gain would sell. I have an autoflex, and saw similar results in trackman. It’s a fantastic product if you fit it well.

  • @Crgx22r7
    @Crgx22r7 2 года назад +23

    I know it's hard to tell by being picked up on mic/camera, but the sound alone of the autoflex seems so much faster that you almost didn't even need to see the numbers. Crazy.

    • @wkndwarrior4733
      @wkndwarrior4733 2 года назад +3

      Was thinking the same. Swing almost looks faster but may just be the pink

  • @jaburk1978
    @jaburk1978 2 года назад +13

    Can’t wait for the on course review. I’ve been looking at this shaft and not too many reviews on it with the positive feedback you got.

  • @dzaino1986
    @dzaino1986 2 года назад +5

    Been playing mine for 18 months. Purchased and fitted through TXG in Toronto. AMAZING pairing with my Stealth (formally Sim). Nothing better has ever worked for me.

    • @jimmyp6049
      @jimmyp6049 2 года назад

      What’s ur swing speed. I swing about 105-110 but “very aggressive” swing. Been told that by a few instructors. So not sure if this would work for me. Feel like you need a smooth swing even if you have a fast swing.

    • @ianfrasergolf
      @ianfrasergolf 2 года назад +1

      👏🏻👏🏻

  • @emos321
    @emos321 2 года назад +3

    Love mine. Added 25 yards and I hit most fairways. You have to adjust to it. Do not expect it to be like your other shafts. You have to be smooth about it. The benefits are awesome.

  • @Smiththebat
    @Smiththebat 2 года назад +1

    Love it when some crazy expensive, big talking, new tech company actually impresses and comes through. Satisfying to me.

  • @grahambartsch3195
    @grahambartsch3195 2 года назад +4

    On year two of the 505X in my driver. Had it on a Cobra Rad Speed XD, and moved it into the new LTD-X. The lighter clubhead made that combo, for me, a rocket launcher. Figured the AF would be a good shaft system to "grow old with", being 53 now.. still getting great club/ball speed, and outdriving a Buch of playing partners that are significantly younger than me, much to their chagrin :-)
    Loved the AF so much, I bit the bullet, and put the 505X fairway shaft into my Stealth + 3w, and yowsa, almost don't need a driver anymore !
    Only downside is cost, not for the faint of heart, that's for sure, especially up here in Canada, add another 33% to that dollar figure!

    • @mikescott8894
      @mikescott8894 2 года назад

      Put them on your irons and lookout! Bombs.

  • @jimmyp6049
    @jimmyp6049 2 года назад +9

    Take it on course.
    Would love to see if u could game it after playing a few rounds with it. Intrigued for sure!!

  • @harveyb4114
    @harveyb4114 2 года назад +2

    Currently I'm playing the 405 since my swing speed is about 90 to 95 miles per hour.. With the Callaway rogue ST LS head, I have found more fairways and gained about 20 yards. I also have a 505 that I'm thinking might go great in my tm stealth plus 3 wood. The only caveat about this shaft is you need to have a smooth swing and give it a chance... getting used to the whippiness is the key. A close friend of mine has the 505X and bombs it. He's coming from a ventus TR shaft. Great review as always Matt.

  • @benpatsy2076
    @benpatsy2076 2 года назад +5

    I've watched a few of your videos over the past 2 days and I love your energy that you put into them. Subscribed!!! 👍🇬🇧

  • @wconstructionco
    @wconstructionco 2 года назад +10

    It rewards a smooth tempo swing. I find the evenflow riptide to be similar to this shaft.

    • @TPM188
      @TPM188 2 года назад

      WOW. I have autoflex for my driver and I have evenflow for my fairway woods. You are absolutely right.

  • @brandonsandberg3500
    @brandonsandberg3500 2 года назад +3

    Good stuff Matt! Let's see a little on-course review and/or comparison video where you play the same hole with tee shots in your stock vs AutoFlex shafts and see if you're just bombing it in the studio because you aren't afraid of where the ball goes, or if those results will transfer to the course as well!

  • @allthatgolfkorea
    @allthatgolfkorea 2 года назад +14

    Play around with the swingweight too. They recommend C9~D0 (upto D1 for 505x). It makes a BIG difference for some reason. What was the total length of the driver?

    • @emos321
      @emos321 2 года назад

      The D0 swing weight may be fine for some high speed swingers, but the AF works great with stock weighted heads. No need to change weights and affect center of gravity and spin for regular golfers.

    • @mikescott8894
      @mikescott8894 2 года назад +4

      @@emos321 no it doesn’t. Head weight needs to be around 192 grams.

  • @elderhiker7787
    @elderhiker7787 2 года назад +10

    Fantastic review. If possible, could you bring in a person with a slower swing speed to see if the improvements hold true for older golfers with slower swing speeds in the low 90s or mid-80s? Great info though. Does the head choice make any difference?

    • @Dodgymansps
      @Dodgymansps 2 года назад +3

      There are some youtube videos of this online. You would need a different flex to do this, something like the 405. Unlike other shafts, fitting and weight are very important.

  • @razor7241
    @razor7241 2 года назад +6

    I’ve had an Autoflex shaft for over a year and picked up significant carry distance AND hit it straighter. I’ve had lots of my friends try it and most picked up yardage. A couple of guys that didn’t see any gains put it directly into their present driver heads without checking swingweight. If you are playing a driver with a heavy head weight (like a Ping), your swingweight will be WAY off. When I checked one of the guys who put it onto a heavy headed driver AND cut the shaft down to 44.5 inches (the Autoflex shaft is designed to be played at 46 inches), the swingweight of his club with the Autoflex shaft was C1! No wonder he couldn’t hit it! If you want this shaft to work optimally, you need to make sure you get it into a swingweight range of D0 to D3ish. Either by changing grip weight or changing clubhead weight!

    • @emos321
      @emos321 2 года назад

      I play a stock weighted g425 max head, with a sf405 at 46 inches with an align grip. Mine is at D5. I crush it. If your tempo is fast you could struggle with this shaft. Be smooth in the transition and feel the load. Then boom as hard as you want.

  • @mengtastic8337
    @mengtastic8337 2 года назад +1

    Great video! I know many people who do use Autoflex on driver, woods, and irons. Very pricey but once you get use to them, they do help a lot. IMO from what I have seen and with whom I have played a few rounds with.

  • @michaelbateson8636
    @michaelbateson8636 2 года назад

    You have an align grip! Same as me! I only figured out that I'd have the grip.in a wierd place whenever I changed the settings though.... still you have impeccable taste.

  • @davidw2033
    @davidw2033 2 года назад +1

    Was wondering when you would test this. Clearly a difference. The only question is, is the cost worth the somewhat mediocre gains. I will stick with my Tour AD-IZ 5S. I also have the TSi3. Great video Matt.

  • @stephenlecoche9792
    @stephenlecoche9792 2 года назад +1

    Great review Matt. Could you do a review of the de wiz? Some big names on the promo but no one’s seems to be talking about it?

  • @shawncorley3229
    @shawncorley3229 2 года назад

    From what I have heard, the crazy technology that is in that thing is that it has a whippy feel (like a senior flex almost) but as you see getting to contact, it somehow firms up. Wish i could test one out.

  • @ryanf820
    @ryanf820 2 года назад

    Matt, I had GolfTown (here in Canada) install a new taylormade tip. The tip failed and I nearly lost my new sim 2 head in the pond at the aquatic driving range! Wasn't too pleased. Safe to say my favorite golf store does not exist either!

  • @09Youba
    @09Youba 2 года назад +1

    I use to sell a shaft in the 90's in my shop called Fiber Speed. It was a fiberglass shaft with other material blended
    in and it was a little whippy but it provided more distance. It never caught on for lack of advertising and PGA
    Pros not using it. I still have one in my 3 metal wd. and it goes as far as my driver. Good demonstration
    Matt.

  • @TM_2024GO
    @TM_2024GO 2 года назад +2

    Loved your video! but I have a question : is Augusta National one of your favourite golf course?

  • @jeffsellers3872
    @jeffsellers3872 2 года назад +1

    all of my clubs except 3 wedges and putter are Autoflex. wouldn't change them for anything.

  • @napoleonwilliams444
    @napoleonwilliams444 2 года назад

    Looking forward to the on course video. Awesome work!

  • @travisw9071
    @travisw9071 2 года назад

    hitting at the range vs setting up a home setup with or without launch monitor launch monitor? which do you prefer for practice/working on your swing, and why do you go to each one?

  • @petelazic7154
    @petelazic7154 2 года назад +2

    The most crucial part to an AutoFlex shaft fitting is the swing weight. For the SF505X, the swing weight can be no heavier then D2. D1 is ideal. The lighter the shaft, the lighter the swing weight.. I have had one now for over 6 months and love it. I have a TSi3 with the SF505X with a swing weight of D1. I have added 25 yards of carry and also a pure fairway finder.

  • @rickcudmore8156
    @rickcudmore8156 2 года назад +2

    Other videos that I have watched had similar results. Once you were thoroughly warmed up, the shaft did what it was designed to do. I don't think it would be of benefit to go from the car to the 1st tee.

  • @TheCuzbro
    @TheCuzbro 2 года назад

    Looking forward to you using it on the course. Awesome review bro..

  • @robo265
    @robo265 11 месяцев назад

    Great video SG what was the shaft length and swing weight you used thanks in advance 👍

  • @nicholas389
    @nicholas389 2 года назад

    Thank you

  • @Real28
    @Real28 2 года назад

    I saw the Autoflex on your last video at the club with golfaholics and thought, oh yea, we're gonna see a video about that.
    Low and behold...

  • @madorsey077
    @madorsey077 2 года назад

    Great video Billy, I’ve got a feeling you are going to do well at Memorial this weekend.

  • @garymontague1205
    @garymontague1205 2 года назад

    Thank you for doing the review! 😃

  • @Whatyoutakinbout
    @Whatyoutakinbout 2 года назад

    Love that sound.

  • @AB-nv7bz
    @AB-nv7bz 2 года назад

    Im surprised his grouping was better too. The shaft is definitely longer but I have seen others struggle with dispersion.

  • @kevinberry845
    @kevinberry845 2 года назад

    I have auto flex sf505xx. Gained 4 mph club speed. Ball speed was up 8 mph. For extra 14 yards carry. Love the shaft. When did video tho. Did u change swing weight to d1.5. That what they fit u for and recommend u do. If u haven’t. Changed weight to d1.5. And u have even better numbers that already see bro

  • @marcwolfenden9219
    @marcwolfenden9219 2 года назад

    Cannot wait for course blog

  • @CaribSurfKing1
    @CaribSurfKing1 2 года назад

    You only need X and sometimes S if you load really fast. If you don't, you can usually be fine with a stiff tip, much softer mid and butt shaft. Most people always play shafts to stiff!

  • @MrLittlejonboy
    @MrLittlejonboy 2 года назад

    Played my first round with the 505. Drove the ball longer and straighter than ever. Gone from a fitted shaft to one selected on the internet and they are miles apart is distance and disbursement. I was only fitted last may also.

    • @teslasteve2
      @teslasteve2 2 года назад

      what is the playing length of the driver and the length from grip to tip? also what head and swingweight are you playing?

    • @MrLittlejonboy
      @MrLittlejonboy 2 года назад

      @@teslasteve2 callaway rogue st max 9 degree head set to standard. 1inch shorter with plus 4 midsize grip.

  • @ronwatts9634
    @ronwatts9634 6 месяцев назад

    Just curious Mr. Short game,
    Have you tried out the shaft from Steadfast Golf?
    It would be great to see one of your testing and honest review.

  • @jimbonda007
    @jimbonda007 2 года назад

    Great video and content as usual. Think I’d rather spend the money on a good putter and new wedges, but the noticeable gains are hard to ignore.

  • @amichaels-v3
    @amichaels-v3 2 года назад

    Matt, where was that swing during your Day One Practice Session? You were KILLING IT during this recording! Maybe you don't actually need a swing coach? Maybe your swing coach is taking you the wrong direction...

  • @donniecorrigan8519
    @donniecorrigan8519 2 года назад

    Great info, keep up the good work!

  • @Eqnotalent
    @Eqnotalent 2 года назад

    I realize there is a huge difference between AF swing weight between D1-D4. Your spin can vary almost 800-1200 and launch angle between 2-5 degrees. Test all those swing weights out

  • @theeyesurgeon1
    @theeyesurgeon1 2 года назад

    i play a stealth plus with ventus tr and it’s just a missile launcher of a setup. I have an autoflex that I toy around with in my backup heads, and I put it in my backup 8 degree stealth head and was getting an extra 20 yards of carry (was on the range so this is approximate and the ball flight was just insane). Something holds be back from gaming it consistently though

  • @encinobalboa
    @encinobalboa 2 года назад

    Data shows gains but these are expected from lighter shaft and better fit for our reviewer's swing. To really find out if this shaft is all that it is would be to test against similar spec shaft from an established manufacturer.

  • @davidmiller5978
    @davidmiller5978 2 года назад

    That's all I need is a great shaft that gives me more distance into the woods. Wait you said you hit the fairways better. Might have to look into this. Any other colors besides pink?

  • @robo265
    @robo265 Год назад

    Great video thanks what length and swing weight did you have the autoflex set to

  • @biagiocozza8875
    @biagiocozza8875 2 года назад

    Great video yet again, love your videos SG. The shaft seems like it works very well, now my question is, is this more mental, or does it make you believe, you can hit it further. One more thing, what is your name man?

  • @paulhat3310
    @paulhat3310 2 года назад

    Hey Matt- Long time viewer / subscriber here and you tips have helped a lot. Can you address in a video or reply to me, about how I can change the low point of my swing? I seem to bottom out towards the back of my stance/ swing. I think it should be more forward so I hit ball, then ground for a nice divot. Any help ( from anyone else as well) would be GREATLY appreciated. Just purchased one of those mats that shows low point, swing path etc…I can try to figure out on my own, but Mr. Short game’s expertise is preferred. Thank you & love ya bro!!

  • @jek7011
    @jek7011 2 года назад

    i was going to ask as i definitely saw the shaft in your last video

  • @fabiotitolo8342
    @fabiotitolo8342 2 года назад +1

    Can U try a Nunchuk shaft on your driver?

  • @chesterwillger7017
    @chesterwillger7017 2 года назад +1

    Ugh! I’m older guy who has “smoothed” out his swing… There goes this weeks check (maybe)

  • @larryyoung9106
    @larryyoung9106 2 года назад

    Time to go to the course....real data outside...let's go.

  • @EasternNCSportbikes
    @EasternNCSportbikes 2 года назад

    Would you make a video comparing it to a senior / lady flex lightweight shaft? I mean come on how much hidden Korean technology could be in it.

  • @wingmannj
    @wingmannj 2 года назад +1

    still waiting on home equity loan approval so i can get this beast!

  • @leonardhandzlik6008
    @leonardhandzlik6008 2 года назад +4

    You could tell simply by sound on the video, especially in the 2nd round, that the ball was hitting the sheet harder with the Autoflex. It was noticeable.

  • @auburneagle1410
    @auburneagle1410 2 года назад

    Please review the LA Golf Blade and Mallet putters🤙🏽and give honest take on are either worth the $1500

  • @keitho6018
    @keitho6018 2 года назад

    Good review thanks!

  • @grad17
    @grad17 2 года назад

    Good video, great data. Technology matters.

  • @danieltendies300
    @danieltendies300 2 года назад

    Have you ever played golf at a course called Golden Oaks in Pennsylvania?

  • @ultimatejay
    @ultimatejay 2 года назад +1

    Every time a youtuber does a review of this shaft they never set it up correctly. When you use this shaft you have to change the head weight to obtain a swing weight of D0- D1.5

  • @somersgolf
    @somersgolf 2 года назад

    Interesting test 👍 I've just bought a Trono, so I think it will be a while before I think about changing it again though. Never know, I might win the lottery though 😂

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 2 года назад

    Very good topic to cover.. Hard pass on this specific shaft. But Shafts do make a huge difference for some people.

  • @robertott9925
    @robertott9925 2 года назад

    Nice Doug D introduction

  • @mpkelley20
    @mpkelley20 2 года назад

    Have you tried a lighter shaft like the Air Speeder? I use the air speeder 45 in stiff in my stealth. Weights around 52 grams in stiff i think. While super light, it’s very stable and adds swing speed and ball speed vs my 65g shafts I have. Just curious how AF compared to those types of shafts. As the air speeder is like half the price.

  • @The_Based_DJ
    @The_Based_DJ 2 года назад

    Good morning, Mr. SG!

  • @terryholloway9930
    @terryholloway9930 2 года назад

    No too expensive for me but thanks Matt love ya

  • @romeosalazar603
    @romeosalazar603 2 года назад

    Where did you order it from Mr. Short Game? Thanks for the reply…..👍

  • @dominicfrank77
    @dominicfrank77 2 года назад

    Hola Mr. SG.....just curious if you got the swing weight down to a d1 or d0? I have had this in the bag for two years....swing weight is key to maximize the shaft......I've had this with some PGA guys on the course and trackman.......legit longer and more accurate.

  • @H2Prince
    @H2Prince Год назад

    I'm 38 with a club head speed of 117-121. Usually carry 275-300...320+ rollouts. Can't find a driver head I like more than the Ping i25. really wondering how an autoflex would work for me.

  • @victorchen8484
    @victorchen8484 2 года назад

    I saw that in the last couple videos😂 Seems to work well for u

  • @thebakfixr
    @thebakfixr 2 года назад

    Looks kind of whippy but I could almost hear the increased club head speed during you series of 10 hits. My club head speed is only 95-100, so I imagine that the shaft they'd recommend for me might be even more whippy than that one. I usually like the stiffer shafts so I wonder how hard it is to get use to slowing the swing down (not really, just swinging easier) and playing the flex. That's a lot of money for a few extra yards so I'll just practice my chips and work on eliminating the 3-putts!

    • @emos321
      @emos321 2 года назад

      Its not hard at all.

  • @davidcole2337
    @davidcole2337 2 года назад

    By the way love PGA SuperStore. You should do a video of location with all the Variety of clubs and talk about how for $149 you can access to Bays for hour a day and hit into the same type of screen you hit in to..

  • @kenbuzzell5821
    @kenbuzzell5821 2 года назад

    Great review!

  • @joey5picks
    @joey5picks 2 года назад

    Spin number in italics, so estimated not actually measured. Need foil dots on the ball

  • @patrickshanahan5870
    @patrickshanahan5870 Год назад

    So what specs would I be looking at in the Motore F3 or the EF CB if my swing speed is 90 mph? Your average swinger.

  • @slade_golf
    @slade_golf 2 года назад

    You mentioned at the 1:34 mark that your swing speed was 105-108 yet trackman didn't show you swinging more than 101. You were able to get around 105 w/ the Autoflex but maybe based on your 100 mph club head speed, you should have tried the 505 instead of 505x?

  • @ericjencson9489
    @ericjencson9489 2 года назад +1

    Auto flex is for people with deep pockets and country club memberships, not for a retired guy on a fixed income that plays municipal golf with a Callaway xr.

  • @KevinMDowney
    @KevinMDowney 2 года назад

    Is the auto flex built longer there?

  • @chadmichaelmobile4743
    @chadmichaelmobile4743 2 года назад

    You were swinging noticeabley faster with the second shaft whether you consciously knew it or not. That shaft doesn't magically add 5 MPH to your club head speed lol.

  • @dannyk5084
    @dannyk5084 Год назад

    What was the swing weight with the autoflex?

  • @AlecDimitrievski
    @AlecDimitrievski 2 года назад

    Nice Doug Demuro intro

  • @LionelBradleygolf
    @LionelBradleygolf 2 года назад

    Did you have to adjust the swing weight of your driver?

  • @topgunbass
    @topgunbass 2 года назад +2

    What no giveaway on the auto flex shaft...come'on....

  • @eddiebrown687
    @eddiebrown687 2 года назад +1

    My epic flash cost me 200....I can't justify spending 1300 for a driver and shaft, especially for 10 more yards. And like i always say, hitting on the range or a bay is not the same pressure as a tight fairway on the first tee with all your friends watching, especially after they find out what you just spent on this driver. Now, THAT'S pressure....lol That is why so many people buy clubs and trade them back in a month later....the only shot that matters is the one on the course.

  • @shanedriver3833
    @shanedriver3833 2 года назад

    Interesting

  • @jeremyyoder33
    @jeremyyoder33 2 года назад

    What is the length of the shaft, and which weight do you have in the head?

  • @scottohara2230
    @scottohara2230 2 года назад

    What length did you play the Autoflex shaft?

  • @SteveSmith-zz4ih
    @SteveSmith-zz4ih 2 года назад +1

    Just buy a 2nd hand seniors shaft, nothing to lose! a lot cheaper

    • @cpintucson1
      @cpintucson1 2 года назад

      New Evenflo Riptide CB in senior flex, with adapter sleeve and grip, $114 shipped.

  • @allahalibaba9063
    @allahalibaba9063 2 года назад

    Great review Matt...How to spend Big Buck for some improvement on the course..Like auto racing, Powered By Money...I think two dozen Rose might almost do the trick...But then again maybe not...I'll stick with My Cobra F 9 With the Aldila Shaft...Paid For...Thanks...

  • @bestofchance
    @bestofchance 2 года назад

    I wonder how is the shaft alone without the driver head

  • @ajcassidy15
    @ajcassidy15 2 года назад

    hey thats my PGA store!

  • @starks1974
    @starks1974 2 года назад

    How long does the tech last until it becomes obsolete?

  • @wadepatton2433
    @wadepatton2433 2 года назад

    Seems that a good clubmaker could work out the details for a less expensive ball swatter.
    Oh wait, he did!

  • @andrewthompson2692
    @andrewthompson2692 2 года назад

    Mr. Shortgame I got a message saying that I that I won the electric cart trolly and it says to text a number. Is it real???

  • @sampearce6555
    @sampearce6555 2 года назад

    Do you think this has almost like a lagshot swing trainer or orange whip effect where it makes you be more patient in your transition and you end up creating more clubhead speed simply by not early releasing and saving your power for down at the ball? Or is it something else? Did you feel like your swing or tempo changed with the AF shaft?