Can you Make a $50 Shaft BETTER than AutoFlex?
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2022
- Trying to make an Autoflex Shaft for $50. Can we get the same or better results? #subscribe #mrshortgame
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Love the collaborations with AJ … he’s truly underrated and deserves more following on here. Him and Mcgolf give away all the info you need to build a solid set of clubs with basic tools and techniques despite being pros.
Always fun to be out there with Mr. Shortgame! He is a golfing robot, makes my job easy.
If you have an extra Motore shaft like the one you used in this video, I'll buy it from you.
I like both of your guys’ channels. Good video.
@@mjmalone75 hahaha Same ! I'm Playing a 55g shaft now .. maybe i just need more whip?
What would you say is the closest to the "stiffest" version of auto flex? I am playing that currntly with avg swing speed of 121mph. Thanks and nice video!
Any recs on where to purchase the Motore shaft?
Probably one of the VERY BEST videos about shaft flex I've seen this year. The mix of you two guys is just awesome. You should do it more often. Thanks for demystifying some current golf myths. And A.J. your expertise is really appreciated. Thanks Mr. Short Game for your 'swing'.
Good insight by AJ. I recently did some research on graphite shafts and all the manufactures where talking up their own shafts. Ended up with regular flex
Good to see AJ out with you. I subscribe to AJs Chanel and find him really knowledgeable in shafts and clubs. Thanks Matt, as always.
The swing is looking good!!! Looking forward to seeing more of your journey.
I have the same shaft in black as the white one. It came in my old Nike Sasquatch machspeed 9.5 STR8 fit. Fujikura Motore F3 60g instead of 55g. I went straight to the garage and got it, because I knew that it was the same. Love the videos man, keep up the great work.
Excellent video. I had the exact same Riptide in my PXG driver in Senior Flex and it was, at best, OK. I liked the Tensei CK Blue shaft that I had on my hybrids so had a driver version of the Tensei shaft made in Senior flex (one inch longe than the Riptide) and it was a night and day difference. It was like a new driver, for a fraction of the cost.
I used a Cleveland launcher for years until my grandson broke it by accident,I tried various makes without success,this year aged 78 I purchased a sim two on advise from a local golf shop,light shaft low spin option,result boom,it shows always consult a club fitter.Great video as always
After watching this and other videos, I switched to a 50gm Riptide CB, 1/2 inch longer for like $37 off ebay!! With great results. Instantly getting more center strikes and longer drives on the course with smooth swings. Could not believe using the footspray to compare groupings, went from healstriker with Hzrdus to center with lighter Riptide. With the 70gm hzrdus I felt like I had to swing hard to get it to perform but it was a very straight. That was great when I'm able to practice alot but the riptide is so much easier to just swing easy. Both shafts were stiff so not as dramatic as what guys had
Excellent demo guys! I really appreciate that you have helped demystify the golf shaft for laypeople.
Very good video. I always find in fittings that people highly undervalue the shaft as the catalyst for their swing dynamics and delivery. Low kick point shafts aren’t for everyone (especially high spin players) but it’s always good to experiment and see what works!
Great Info. Would love to try this out myself and compare that to my Autoflexshaft. It’s hard to get the old Fujikura F3. How was the bend profile measured?
I totally agree with what he said. I am a club fitter in Singapore and there are alternative shafts with similar specs in the market. It's how you match up for the golfer that allows that golfer to hit his best shots with consistency.
Been watching you both for some time; really like the collaboration videos.
Us golfers are always searching to be better when all you really need is have lessons and practice or watch Mr Short
Game .
I include myself with all golfers and have made plenty of expensive mistakes having sold two expensive
Drivers and got my gamer a four year
Old club which works great
Looking good Mr Short Game. I’d love to see you compare the auto flex driver shaft with the G-force driver shaft with the same premium head.
I put the G-force driver shaft in Ping G425 and added an extra 10-15 yards over my stiff shaft using a slower, more effortless swing.
The spin rate with the Autoflex was 500-600 higher than the others, change the loft of the driver and the distance will increase. TXG tested an autoflex and had similar distance numbers with a slightly lower swing speed, they lowered the loft on the driver by 1degree and the spin rate went down by almost 1000 while the overall distance increased over 25 yards.
I fitted a Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45 Graphite - Wood A (50 Euro shaft) took 2 inch off from the tip and installed Cobra Adapter for my Cobra Radspeed just for fun. Put the driver onto 10.5 degree, mounted some 14 gram weight in front slot to lower spin and a extra 6 gram weight in the back, lenght 45inch, swingweight around D1.1
which I love. Wow... tested it on trackman indoors, compared it to Ping 430 Max 10K, Ai Smoke Max, QI10, Cobra, TSi3 ... The 3 years old Radspeed was 7-8 yards longer then the Ai Smoke which gave a little tighter dispersion. But my Radspeed drives were all left centre line, baby draw and in the fairway all except one. But man the feel and timing fits me so much better, loving it.
Great video... I use the Mizuno ST-Z 200 which uses the Evenflow 50g Reg flex and I have had it reduced to 43.75" length - which gets me 250y carry with consistency
Good distances!
What is your swing speed?
Nice collaboration and insight guys. AJ knows his stuff .
Gforce has a shaft for the Driver where DIY golfers and custom club makers can fit the shaft with the fitting sleeve of the brand of Driver a golfer has. I got one at the beginning of the year and had a local custom club maker install the Callaway sleeve so I can use it on my two Callaway Drivers. Maybe that could be another experiment you can do.
Is there somewhere where I can see the metrics? I bought the Autoflex because it increased my carry substantially by raising my launch. I didn't get a huge distance gain because my previous shots rolled so far. I'm a rare case though as I am low launch super low spin player. AF with Stealth standard got me up to 12-13/2200 instead of 9.5/1700.
Such a good video...dispelling the myth around high price shafts...$800 for an Autoflex is just plain nuts. I now game a SIM driver with the stock TaylorMade fake Ventus Blue R 60 gram shaft and it beats my PING G400 Max and SFT with pricier shafts all day long.
That EXACT thing happened to me last week, man. I was mid back swing and a bee stung me on the back of my neck. Caused me to flop a shot straight into water.
This was a very interesting video ! Thanks ,Bookmarked it.
Amazing info there from AJ...again!
That swing is gold! Whatever your working on, keep it up!
Great video! Are the swing weights similar to that with the Autoflex?
I did this. I put that shaft (in 5.0 flex) in my TSR3 in place of the stiff, 65g shaft I had. I didn't feel much difference in the shaft or the club, and it didn't bring down my swing weight much. Also, contact felt muffled. But....I gained about 10 yards on Trackman.
WHOA!!!! Mr Shortgame could have saved himself some $$$ if he new about that shaft a few months ago.
I think it's also interesting that R vs S vs other flexes may not me anything as the weight & other factors really make the difference. If you can swing fast and stays in play than that is the shaft for you.
awesome as always! i make hand forged putters. have you done a video on putter shafts?
That’s crazy! Gonna go try my own trials now. Great content!
Great content as always 👏
What a superb collaboration of 2 expert minds 👍
Very cool. Good work on that
Great collaboration! I've been watching AJ / MC for a while now too..
Only goes to show just spending big bucks doesn't necessarily mean you will get a better performing club. Going to a good club fitter like AJ probably does. Good insight, thanks
is the fuji shaft the 55 regular flex or lite flex?
Awesome video! Man the results from those two cheaper shafts were incredible.
Excellent video!!! AJ knows his shit.
Another great program my friend. Be well.
I have a little more butt weight in me too. Great video with two of my favorites.
Mr Short game is always relevant with his information. Love the channel, love the content!
"He doesn't want to influence my sensories.... whatever I've got" lol. Also, just as a side, I think what appears to be your new camera guy should still use a tripod. Your newest videos are a bit all over the place.
ack what were the final numbers? hard to find these shaft specs online, anyone got a good source?
Great vid!!! What about a Paderson challenge??
RMA on the AutoFlex! Great collab! 😀
Wow this is amazing work
So what specs would I be looking at in the Motore F3 or the EF CB if my swing speed is 90 mph? Your average swinger.
Tried this experiment with the same PX Evenflow Riptide CB 5.0 A flex 40g. Like you mentioned, it didn't really feel loose like the Autoflex is supposed to. It was just a very smooth feeling good performer. I also glued up a Garafalloy ProLaunch Blue A flex 45g. This is a shaft that anyone can buy at GG for $60. The #'s are blowing my mind right now! I've been playing a Fuji MotoreX F1 6X for the past 2 years. It was supposed to be my "forever shaft".. but I'm quickly losing that loving feeling and falling for one of these "Otto Phlex" shafts.
Would love to see another video with some of these readily available more budget friendly options that meet the budget of the Motore but can easily be found.
All of these can be found at GG or Golfworks for around $60 and seem to fit the profile.
NV NXT Gen Orange 54g A flex
UST ProForce V2 HL F2-A or
UST ProForce V2 F2-A
Garafalloy PL Blue 44g A Flex
What is your swing speed?
@@botrott my stock SS is about 110-111. If I juice it up I can get to 114 . I'll say that I've found a real winner in the Garafalloy Pro Launch Blue 45g in A flex. It's my new gamer and the #'s are outstanding!
@@AZstu324 thanks for the quick response but that's almost 20 mph faster than me so it may not work. I'll have to see if they have a womans shaft.
@@botrott glad to help 😊. They do have an L flex in the Garafalloy PLB that seems to be working quite well for 90 mph range folks. It's a full length so you shouldn't have any issues cutting to 45, 46, or 47 inches. You can pretty easily find them at Golf Galaxy, PGA Tour Superstore, Golfworks, or Hireko Golf. Cheers!
@@AZstu324 thanks again. Did you have to make an adjustment with your driver with the new shaft? TXG ran a side by side with the Autoflex and the new Brava shaft. The Brava won the first round but the spin rate was very high on the Autoflex. For the second round they changed the head from 9 degrees to 8 which brought the spin rate down almost 1000 rpm on the Autoflex and the tester saw a considerable increase in distance. Close to 290 total with a swing speed of just 102 mph which I found amazing.
What a nice swing!
Aren't regular stiffness a bit soft and whippy for 106mph SS?
Sign me up ! awesome video fellas I need to go see AJ and get really fit. All these big name places charging an arm and a leg to just put u in expensive equipment. I'll play a lady's club or senior equipment if i have to .. as long as it helps my game, I could care less what the label says ! Great work guys =)
The benefit of the autoflex is that it lets you play the soft shaft you need without hurting your ego.
More Collabs with AJ for sure!!
Very fun Mr SG. The autoflex I have tried out are long 46-47”. What length are the shafts in the video.
Mr. SG is an ultimate driving machine!
I just switched from a stiff flex hzrdous smoke to a riptide CB 5.5 50g. Arccos is showing a 55 yard gain in my Radspeed XD. Love that shaft.
What's your driver swing speed?
@@golfrep2584 100-104
short game guy's swing speed is about 105 and he's carrying his driver about 255, total distance is about 275. Are you saying you went from 220 total to 275 just by switching to the Radspeed XD?
@@golfrep2584 arccos showed my total distance for last year was about 215 maybe 210, this year my average on the app is 255 260.
@@DropDeadINK wow! That's great
Great video, Mobile Club Maker has Great Content 👍 Very Informative Channel 👍
Are you swinging a regular flex shaft that is 40 grams with a 100 mph swing speed? Aren’t most shafts in the 60-70 grams for that swing speed and stiff shafts?
I follow him for a while and like everything he say
Riptide CBS are currently $75-90 on eBay right now
Where is the mobile club maker link in the description below?
Hey aj, do you know what the torque on the autoshaft is, because with a shaft that soft might be to hard to control.
When you say "get the tip on" what exactly do you mean?
Are there any new model shafts that are more available that fit the same profile as the white shaft tested in this video?
About to put out a new video discussing other what setup you can use.
@@EFGMC thank you
Are we certain that Fujikura shaft is a Motore F3? I can’t find that anywhere. Can’t even find a picture of an all white Motore F3 55g shaft. I did randomly find a Motore F1 that’s all white. It looks like it was made for TaylorMade back in the day.
Mr. Shortgame is smooth and still nailing 300! 😮😮
That's so funny he said that at the end, because I went in to buy a driver shaft and I talked to the club builder. He said the exact same thing. Weights might effect you, but graphite is graphite, steel is steel. Basically saying, their is no magic shaft.
Wow...didn't know Mr SHORT game had a double meaning until today!!!
Awesome video as always AJ and Matt! What do you think about the Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45 shaft compared to the Autoflex?
Since that F3 Motore is basically impossible to find now, what else in their line would be similar? How about an Fujikura Air Speeder 45-R?
Got that in my stealth HD. Very torquey. If you like a soft tip, it's for you.
any other current model under 100$ that could match the Autoflex? Best regards from Germany
Hey guys - I've had success building clubs using the Fujikura Vista Pro F3/F2 45 gram - a great alternative to a more expensive tour shaft- have you compared this one to the Motore or Riptide? The launch and torque is bit higher then the Riptide which has it's benefits. Cheers guys!
White would have had a bit more swing weight due to being longer. Maybe why it felt so good.
please state the shaft length. Thank you
Where and how do I buy shafts from 10 years ago?
why are you swinging reg flex with 105+ club speed?
Great video
Hey Matt Whats with the number to text to win crap is this real?
Are there any other words on the Motore? Is it a Speeder?
Yea. A.J. is the man. Take your clubs to his new shop and at least have your lies and angles checked. I have had new clubs from the best brands to be off. Golfer your best friend is the clubmaker.
Not at all discrediting these shafts but really wish that Matt was using the proper flex in his Autoflex. With his swing speed the 505 is not enough and should have been the 505X hence me questioning his problem with it going left.
Mr.Short confidence, I say this with all due respect, I subscribed to you because of you unique and no bs approach to the game, I shot a true 82 to 97 ,real talk,seems like after you getting your ass handed to your own self, you lost your own confidence, I mean no disrespect, brutal honesty is golf. Put more of those awesome vids for people like us that got you big subscribed golf lovers, who gives a $#@% about making a shaft.
Is this a real give away or you mad at me for being honest? Lol, instill a huge fan and play almost every sun with a group of 20.we have guys who can bomb a drive but can't put to save their granny,then we have guys who are sharks around the green, if the can get there in 2, we all love your channel and discuss what you teach! I meant no disrespect, going pro was a reality check,but seeing a pro golf teacher messed your game up,I've hard that's what happens. If you already play great golf I was told not to take lessons? What's your thoughts on that?
Thanks for the info on this one. Amazing. Now will Autoflex have a price drop??? A huge price drop?? 😂😂😂
Amazing
I bought a 12d Driver from Golfworks with their R shaft and absolutely crush it 285 and I suck.
Straight or straight into the woods?
Put an Autoflex in my Titleist TSi1 hoping for some distance gains. Unfortunately I didn’t get any improvement over the stock shaft. Very disappointed, but as they say, you can’t buy a golf game!
VERY important to get the swing weight to a d1 or D0. To do that you need to increase the grip weight to get that to happen. a D2,3,4,5 and its not the same thing.
@@dominicfrank77 even lower c8-d0
Blue is evenflow riptide
The ping auto flex alta quick. Try it. Unbelievable
Their secret is that their marketing department was able to sell a $50 shaft for $800. You have be honest though, before autoflex, no one would have recommended anyone with a 100+ mph swing speed with a 40g lite flex shaft.
Although I'll never pay $800 for a shaft, I'll admit that the marketing is pretty clever. They know trying to sell the idea that an A flex shaft could benefit higher speed swingers that it would never even leave the ground. They basically rebranded the A flex to be more appealing to a broader market AND spin it like a magic secret shaft with an $800 pricetag.. to bad they got figured 😜
Are you sure you don't mean the EF CB 5.0 5R? Which is 52 grams and still 6 grams less than the Motore? The CB 40 5.0 is only 45 grams. The 505x and xx are both in 50s. Can't imagine any hitter at 105+ ss hitting a 45 gram shaft and certainly dont see how it compares to the Motore.
So, save your money, as it’s the person swinging the club vs the tech that makes the ball go!
Matt, you normally play Stiff. You’ve gone down a flex to regular in the attempt to replicate the Autoflex. If a guy plays regular, he’d need to go down to A flex?
AF resale value just crashed after this video release. Prob filing for bankruptcy next week.
Fuji Motore shafts just went up in ebay value. Adjust your auctions ladies and gents
Only Motore X are on eBay. What’s the difference?
@@Athon08 Motore X F3 should work in the R2 flex. Haven't tested it but my educated guess.
Simple. 55g high kick point…done
People who spent $800 - $900 are realizing AF is a senior/reg light shaft disguised with pink paint.
Buying a $100 shaft and spending $700 on lessons would have made them better golfers than 1 shaft.
Yea, no way I would pay $800 for a shaft. That costs more than my complete set of irons! Besides I am not that good (about a 10 handicapper)...but I do have fun!
Don't a lot of those long drive dudes use senior flex?
@@DavesRabbitHole I feel like I heard Kyle Berkshire say his LD driver had senior flex too
@@mathitis93 reg