MATCH THE AUTOFLEX FOR HUNDREDS LESS

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  • Опубликовано: 21 июл 2024
  • In this video I talk about the results from my collaboration with Mr. Shortgame testing out less expensive alternatives to the $800 Autoflex driver shaft.
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  • @acemanNL
    @acemanNL 2 года назад +13

    Mr Short Game & Mr Mobile Clubmaker is a GREAT combo!!! Thanks! 💪

  • @3pidemiC123
    @3pidemiC123 2 года назад +17

    For people wondering about the Motore X F3, you can get it installed in a Maltby driver for ~$280. That's for the whole club; head, shaft, grip. If you're looking to try out this shaft it's not a terrible deal.

  • @billmalec
    @billmalec 2 года назад +9

    And why we watch AJ now. Real info. No fluff.
    Thank you!

  • @luisjuarez1200
    @luisjuarez1200 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the update AJ for shafts that are more widely available at the moment. Now it is time for shaft shopping.

  • @FBRR2
    @FBRR2 2 года назад +10

    I listened to the video from a year or so ago, and did end up with a Fujikura 47 g senior flex shaft. I've been playing it for over a year and my golf partners asked this what did you change in your driver, as you're hitting it at least 20 yards longer. And I will add, I've hit more fairways too. (I didn't expect that shaft to be as accurate as it is!)
    Cheers and thank you! The original video sold me!
    PS
    The shaft I have is the "taylormade" Fugikura "speeder" 47 g shaft senior flex

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +3

      I always love to hear validation of my theories! Thanks for your support!

  • @robertsaunders9662
    @robertsaunders9662 Год назад +1

    Had success with a Riptide butt trimmed one inch and a flex softer. Good for my senior swing. Thanks!

  • @tdevdad
    @tdevdad Год назад +34

    I found a Riptide Even Flow in a L flex (which is 2 down from R flex), and it is 40g which is 10g less than my current shaft. Installed the shaft into my R11 driver about 3 months ago. I don't think I'm getting much more in distance, but oh my goodness...so much more consistent and easier to swing! I'm now hitting on average 12 out of 14 fairways. Distance is somewhere around 240-250. My driver is now my favorite club. I'm 63 years old. Thanks.

    • @willcardwell5284
      @willcardwell5284 Год назад

      Where did you find the shaft? All I can find are the “non hand crafted” cheaper version of the riptide

    • @tdevdad
      @tdevdad Год назад

      @@willcardwell5284 I think I found a club that had that shaft in it on Global Golf.

    • @Gentsgolf
      @Gentsgolf 4 месяца назад

      Same here (in the Netherlands btw) I fitted a Grafalloy ProLaunch Blue 45 Graphite - Wood A (50 Euro shaft) took 2 inch off from the tip and installed Cobra Adapter for my Cobra Radspeed just for fun. Put the driver onto 10.5 degree, mounted some 14 gram weight in front slot to lower spin and a 6 gram weight in the back, swingweight around D1.1
      which I love. Wow... tested it on trackman indoors, compared it to Ping 430 Max 10K, Ai Smoke Max, QI10, Cobra, TSi3 ... The 3 years old Radspeed was 7-8 yards longer then the Ai Smoke which gave a little tighter dispersion. But my Radspeed drives were all left centre line, baby draw and in the fairway all except one. But man the feel and timing fits me so much better, loving it.

    • @tmfilpansick
      @tmfilpansick 8 дней назад

      Same

  • @billt888
    @billt888 2 года назад +4

    Keep up the good work. I enjoy your video's. I am a average senior golfer and I have made my own clubs. I shoot in the mid to low 80's occasionally breaking 80.:) I am always interested in all things related to club making and golf. I also watch Mr. Short game.

    • @breeze787
      @breeze787 Год назад

      I'm getting into working on my own clubs too. Soon I'll find out if the graphite shafts help me. No or.

  • @11golfnut11
    @11golfnut11 Год назад +1

    Thanks for a great video. I'm going to try this for myself being a senior golfer and always looking for more distance

  • @justinbordwell4654
    @justinbordwell4654 Год назад +1

    By accident I played a fujikura motore Regular. I found a deal on the shaft and had a krank LD head installed. I did not know it was a regular shaft for like 6 months. Best driving I've done in my life. I adapted to the shaft pretty quickly and I think what happens is you are forced to lag and hold your hands off longer and that might be a key to why this auto flex concept works.

  • @scokeing
    @scokeing 2 года назад +3

    Great video. AF has great marketing and what they sell works for many.. at a price. Thanks for the comparisons, butt and tip flex/frequency weight should allow a similar comparison.
    After watching some long drive guys builds I got hooked on a light flexible 48” combination and gained a lot of distance (after a lot of practice with this setup) I use a Grafalloy Prolaunch Blue 45 “A” flex $45 in a Ping g400 LST adjusted to 6 degree and get great launch and spin numbers. While maybe not for everyone I like it!!

    • @MEAT0
      @MEAT0 Год назад

      Your comment prompted me to get the same shaft for my stealth.
      R flex with the head at 6* has been incredible.

  • @johnhoward8668
    @johnhoward8668 Год назад

    Fantastic Video AJ. Thanks. All your videos are so informative.

  • @justmythought1586
    @justmythought1586 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info. I would think most people really don't know the bend points and flexibility of their shafts.

  • @johnhoward8668
    @johnhoward8668 Год назад

    Thanks AJ, I had watched this video last year, saved it and have now re-watched it. You really are great. I will let you know how I make out. Take care.

  • @jgonz69
    @jgonz69 2 года назад +2

    Cool video. I bought a PXG for my girlfriend with a project X cb 40 gram 5.0. She doesn’t use it, so I’m going to Superstore to put a ping tip to give it a go in my 425 Max. I’m using the Alta cb slate 50 stiff. Thanks

  • @hunterscrackdealer6650
    @hunterscrackdealer6650 8 месяцев назад +2

    Just grabbed a Motore F3 Regular shaft for my TSR2… let’s see who wins when compared to my Fubuki V60 and my Aldila Ascent 60…
    Can’t wait!

  • @alanduncan9204
    @alanduncan9204 2 года назад +2

    I saw the Mr Shortgame video yesterday. I checked online and here in the UK the 50 dollar shaft was available on many sites for around 50 to 80 pounds.

    • @Lawsurf1
      @Lawsurf1 2 года назад +1

      What sites please

  • @68wolffden
    @68wolffden 2 года назад

    I have the fujikura motore f3 5 r2 that i got in a package deal lot and wasn't sure if it was for me due to the light weight and flex, but after you video and Mr. Shortgame video I think I need to add a new adapter for my new Callaway and give this a try. Lucky Me after looking up the price of a new one of these, about $200 which is a far cry from the Autoflex

  • @Beekeeper58
    @Beekeeper58 2 года назад +1

    Watched the video with Mr Shortgame and that was wild, got me interested!!!

  • @jefftaylor9250
    @jefftaylor9250 Год назад +1

    Would love to see you do a similar video with the Bgt Brava. They're website doesn't giveaway bend profiles just weight and torque

  • @davidgolf3245
    @davidgolf3245 2 года назад +3

    Loved the video, thanks. What would be a good substitute for the red or blue Ventus driver shaft? I am looking to launch it higher with not as much spin. Any thoughts? My swing speed is less than 90 mph. Thanks in advance. 6 handicap golfer.

  • @bernddreilich7100
    @bernddreilich7100 2 года назад +1

    Great Video and Info! I bought the evenflow CB 40 in seniorflex for 65€ and see if it performes similar to SF 505. I like the Autoflexshaft even it costs a bunch but gives me extra 4-5 mph Clubheadspeed compared to regular or stiff flex shafts. Downside are surly the costs and it sometimes hooks on me. Maybe the dispersion of the evenflow is a bit thighter.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      The closer the alternate shaft is to the Autoflex, the closer the result will be. I think the 40 in 4.0 will be a little stiffer than the 505 so it might curb some of the hooks.

  • @mikehoffman7131
    @mikehoffman7131 2 года назад +1

    AJ, its funny that all these hacks are coming out now. I never had the urge for the autoflex(except for the color) but last year when i got my SIM2 with the Ventus Blue(traded my Mizuno driver with a friend) in it I started tinkering. Long story short I ended up taking the Ventus(TM stock, nonVelocore) out ended up taking 1.25inches off the tip and not touching the butt end. The shaft i had in my Mizuno was a 7X and the Ventus that came in the SIM2 was a 5A. I absolutely never had a shaft that felt so good and the performance is unreal.

  • @JH-sb8cd
    @JH-sb8cd 2 года назад +1

    Wow that's crazy! I can't wait for you to get the Elite Golf school going....I definitely want to attend this and learn more about this...and who knows....?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +2

      Got the keys today. Now have to start moving in and setting up!

  • @user-ru3hg9dn5u
    @user-ru3hg9dn5u 4 месяца назад

    Accidentally experienced the autoflex feel. Tried out my daughter’s Tour Edge driver with a senior flex at the driving range couple months ago before seeing this video. Swung easy at first but took a rip at one and was surprised at the result. Straight and hit the 220yd net at the back of the range 3/4 ways up. I play x flex 60 Ventus tr red in a Ping G430max. Going have to look for a poor man’s autoflex. 👍🏾

  • @MrICURNVS
    @MrICURNVS 3 месяца назад

    There are a ton of good shafts out there that for us regular weekend golfers that are so much better than the crappy stock shafts.
    I picked up a Grapalloy red 60g x stiff for 85 with the Srixon tip. Did the pxg challenge and I’ll be applying my 100 to a 4i for my gen5 set

  • @christophertandy8317
    @christophertandy8317 2 года назад +1

    Have you also looked at head weight. I used autoflex and got more from it when I got to a specific head weight. This left me to conclude that the tip stiffness was influenced and in the end I could use anything if the tip stiffness was in the same ball park.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      The Autoflex recommends dropping head weight to get to what I would call pretty arbitrary swing weights. Like many other elements here, dropping weight will allow you to swing the club faster and gain speed not from the shaft but just from physics. It does also as you said stiffen the shaft a bit and that can help control what would otherwise be too whippet for some golfers.

  • @henrymonster9926
    @henrymonster9926 2 года назад +2

    Matching auto flex perfectly aside, does this concept of dropping two flexes and one weight designation yield similar result in someone’s current shaft? Or is there something in the actual profile that is the bigger deal when coupled with weight and flex?

  • @virgilmaralit7817
    @virgilmaralit7817 Год назад +1

    I just ordered a F3 6R I know it’s not exactly the correct one but hopefully it’s close! Fingers crossed
    I have a stealth HD head love TaylorMade drivers but always fade biased, I’m hoping this softer flex will help neutralize/ draw my ball flight

    • @hunterscrackdealer6650
      @hunterscrackdealer6650 8 месяцев назад

      How did you like the F3 60R? I literally just grabbed one off the Bay to compare to my Fubuki V60S and my Aldila Ascent 60S…

  • @MJ-tt9ww
    @MJ-tt9ww Год назад +2

    Would be interesting to hear about the torque specs on these shafts...

  • @eddietrich6257
    @eddietrich6257 2 года назад +1

    It would have been interesting to see his results against the ventus red 6x he got fitted at fujikura and currently plays. Curious if he tried the motore f3 at half the ventus price.

  • @Poom290827
    @Poom290827 11 месяцев назад

    For me Why I would go for auto flex is Very soft attack and forgiving important things is they softer & lighter so that you not going to injury your body 💓But thank again I know you trying to save people money and that is a nicest thing to do 💗💕🙇🏻‍♂️🥰

  • @markmendelson6688
    @markmendelson6688 2 года назад

    Mr. Short game was playing the wrong autoflex shaft ..at his swing speed he should have been using at least a 505X.
    His autoflex results may have been much better…!!
    Great video ,please try again with the 505 x or 505xx
    I have been using the autoflex and moving up or down the flex range makes a huge difference..
    The autoflex is also extremely dependant on head weight…did you find the optimum head weight?

  • @TPM188
    @TPM188 Год назад

    This is crazy. Evenflow Red and Auto are my favorite shafts.

  • @jonathanstevens2937
    @jonathanstevens2937 Год назад +1

    youre the man! subscription earned!

  • @jimscott1607
    @jimscott1607 2 года назад +1

    Isn't the main selling point of the AutoFlex its "adaptive" flex/torque of the unique material? With that in mind, how do static measurements determine an "exact" replacement? This type of characteristic can only be "measured" dynamically.

  • @jjcross3560
    @jjcross3560 Год назад +1

    I am a big fan of " Fugikura " I have a 60 gram shaft on my Cobra Driver.

  • @markshepherd7367
    @markshepherd7367 Год назад

    This man does know what he is talking about, people get ripped off about shafts all the time. With heavy swing weighting you can make the shafts even better believe it or not. It’s a hobby of mine to destroy golf shafts with some really out side the box thinking. And I do add a lot of weight to the heads as well. Keep laughing but what works is all that matters. I sometimes spray the shaft black, stops the abuse.

  • @misteragony
    @misteragony 2 года назад

    Brilliant video as always. Is there a way to send you questions that you (perhaps) could answer? I have a few questions regarding iron steel shafts. Keep up the good work!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      Email.
      aj@smartstake.com

  • @vietnameeh
    @vietnameeh 2 года назад +2

    I have a long drive club Krank 6* head with a graffalloy blue 45 regular
    It’s fun ;)

  • @erock1070
    @erock1070 2 года назад

    Wasn’t the thought process behind the Autoflex was To go around 46-48” build ? Right now I play a 55g Reg Tensei Orange. Hit it well. Would worry about dispersion going 10g lighter, L flex and 47” or longer

  • @breeze787
    @breeze787 Год назад +2

    I'm in the "shaft" interim of my golf career. I'm looking to change my iron shafts to graphite. I think it'll help my career.

    • @hunterscrackdealer6650
      @hunterscrackdealer6650 8 месяцев назад

      I’m younger and I’ve been playing graphite shafts for more than 10+ years… I started with the MFS 115’s… then went to the Aerotech Steelfibers (great shafts, beware, they play stiffer to flex than normal) then I switched to the Recoil Prototype 110’s and finally grabbed a set of 95’s both in F4 (stiff)…
      There are so many good graphite iron shafts to help with elbow pain and soreness… or to add a few yards without sacrificing dispersion

  • @LetsPlayThru
    @LetsPlayThru 2 года назад +1

    Fascinating stuff!

  • @kevinvassago
    @kevinvassago Месяц назад

    I have all Titleist clubs with a TRS2 Driver, but i'd NEVER pay $800 for a shaft. Thats outrageous. I was thinking about putting the Fuji Airspeeder in my Driver to test it out. I love the motore x too. I lofted my King Cobra 5 wood to 20° & put a 3 wood motore x shaft on it to mimic the specs of a Heavenwood. I absolutely love that club❤

  • @SasquatchTour
    @SasquatchTour 2 года назад +1

    When you built the riptide shaft did you do any special tip trimming? When I tested the AutoFlex shaft and compared it to my gamer I was surprised with its accuracy. I’ve thought about testing a lighter shaft and dropping from an Xflex down to regular but tipping the shaft 1-2 inches to see if it’s possible to retain a tighter strike pattern as the autoflex strike pattern was twice as large as my tour ad VR at the same shaft length. I never miss in the heel but I missed low heel to high toe with the autoflex as opposed to center to high toe miss with my gamer. I thought this might be to shaft droop from a weaker tip section.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      PX shaft was straight in, butt cut only. It was a good bit stiffer than the 505 he was hitting. The PX would be a good match against the 505xx I am sure.
      As far as misses go, this idea clearly won't work for everyone. Some swings will not jive with a light flexible shaft and need something more heavy and rigid.
      However if the Autoflex is a good match for your swing, then these other shafts I highlighted will also provide similar results.
      Remember tipping a shaft only changes flex slightly. One inch of tipping = 1/2 a flex move up.

  • @Johnny_3_Putt
    @Johnny_3_Putt 2 года назад

    Great video! Sound quality is great!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      I try. Hoping when I move into the new space I can get the audio even better. Fingers crossed.

  • @francoisaure1558
    @francoisaure1558 2 года назад

    I've hit old light shafts and i've hit autoflex. The XX plays unbelievably stiff through impact, it hits it dead straight (almost impossible to work). Not sure old light whippy shafts play anything like it, but always interesting videos.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      It's all about finding the right match for it. The XX is stiffer so you aren't going to match up with a L flex shaft for example. You would need something stiffer to go against that version.

  • @Beekeeper58
    @Beekeeper58 2 года назад

    Excellent video AJ, gunna have to tinker with this concept!!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      Let me know what you do and how it works.

    • @Beekeeper58
      @Beekeeper58 2 года назад

      @@EFGMC Can do!!

    • @Beekeeper58
      @Beekeeper58 2 года назад

      @@EFGMC will do, got my eye on a 50 gram evenflow

    • @Beekeeper58
      @Beekeeper58 6 месяцев назад

      AJ it’s been a while since I posted last but getting ready for a better year coming up!!! So hear goes, went to the KE4 Max driver from Maltby with the adjustable hosel, so played the UL shaft it came with and now I ordered another adapter and the Project X Riptide CB in A flex 40 grams with now hitting a lot high center and more towards the heal, I’m thinking maybe I should have tipped it 1/2 inch to a inch, what would be your thoughts on this??

  • @kennyreyes5474
    @kennyreyes5474 2 года назад

    Enjoyed the video and the Mr Short Game one I have a question I use a True Temper Project X EvenFlow White T1100 65 with my Sim2 max I love the feel but is a little heavy what would be a good lighter option?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      The Riptide CB is actually pretty similar and has weights in the 50g range. It's also counterbalanced so it might feel even lighter to you.

  • @stevegallagher9541
    @stevegallagher9541 Год назад

    This genuinely works. I have an average club speed of 105 and ball 158. Normally use an x flex. Bought the riptide even flow and it jumped to 110 and 165. I never tried such a flexible shaft due to the usual fluff pros give about matching up to swing speed. One thing for me that was important was to use a pretty chunky grip - think this was to maybe help balance the swing weight?

    • @aleksilepisto7282
      @aleksilepisto7282 Год назад

      The grip is probably where you saw the jump from. You just took off quite a bit of swingweight with it if it’s really big.

    • @stevegallagher9541
      @stevegallagher9541 Год назад

      @@aleksilepisto7282 I’ve been using chunky grips before this change

  • @kidze73
    @kidze73 2 года назад

    Hi, love your content! What then would be the alternative to the all mighty Ventus Black? Is there any old school shaft that can match its performance

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      There are plenty of shafts that fall into that low launch profile with similar weight and flex. The fact that it is so popular on tour etc though shows it's just a really good consistent shaft.
      Maybe PX Smoke Black RDX or Smoke Green in similar weights would be worth a look. Fuji Atmos Tour Black is also close.

  • @davidsmith812
    @davidsmith812 Год назад

    I want to start doing some of my own regripping etc....what's a good shaft clamp for my vise and where can I get one? you don't have an old one lying around do you? :D.

  • @mrgolfdogs
    @mrgolfdogs 2 года назад

    I have been looking for new shafts in my driver , 3 wood and 5 wood should you use the same shaft for each club.

  • @ocashflo
    @ocashflo 2 года назад +2

    In club building I found that often price was a better seller than performance. The average amateur and even the better golfer’s swing wasn’t as repeatable as they thought it was. That always skewed the results and lead to a logical decision to spend money on lessons.
    I do think the shaft is the engine of the club when you consider performance but just like the open road most people need to drive the reliable 4 door sedan because they will never need that 700hp exotic super car. They simply need to get from tee (point A) to green (point B).
    Keep up the great content!!!

    • @lkae4
      @lkae4 2 года назад

      You put a granny in an 800 HP car, she can go as fast as Bryson. You fit granny in Bryson's driver shaft, how far does she hit her drives?

    • @ocashflo
      @ocashflo 2 года назад

      @@lkae4 I understand your point that’s why I said most people. Same for bikinis. Granny could wear it but should she…..

    • @lkae4
      @lkae4 2 года назад

      @@ocashflo My example shows the shaft is not the engine. That's my point. Please stop using this false metaphor.

    • @ocashflo
      @ocashflo 2 года назад

      @@lkae4 what is the engine of the club then?

    • @lkae4
      @lkae4 2 года назад

      @@ocashflo I would say the closet thing would be the club face. Some are hotter than others to the point where they are illegal. There you go.
      The shaft is more like the suspension. Some people like it stiff, some like it plush. Whatever you prefer that helps you drive the way you want with the most confidence and enjoyment is the point of a shaft.

  • @biggregg5
    @biggregg5 2 года назад

    Another great resource for shaft profile libraries is Hireko Golf. Jeff Summit has many years of all sorts of shaft profiles.

  • @exitar1
    @exitar1 Год назад

    A golf club has a lightweight flexible shaft with a heavy block of wood or metal (called the head of the club) at the end. A golfer making a long shot off the tee uses a driver, a club whose 300 g head is much more massive than the 46 g ball it will hit. The golfer swings the driver so that the club head is moving at 43 m/s just before it collides with the ball. The collision is so rapid that it can be treated as the collision of a moving 300 g mass (the club head) with a stationary 46 g mass (the ball); the shaft of the club and the golfer can be ignored.

  • @igalmushailov9438
    @igalmushailov9438 2 года назад

    I have a question. Its weight is indicated on the shaft, for example 85 grams. Is it weight per meter?

  • @derekboyer9102
    @derekboyer9102 Год назад

    Love the video! Thinking of trying this out. Currently gaming project x 6.5 60g. Should I go down to 5.5 40g or 5.0 40g? Thanks for your help! Great videos!

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      Could go either way. The 5.0 from my experience was stiffer than the Fuji shafts I used so I think the 5.0 would be more Autoflexy.

  • @MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz

    Aj
    I need help matching up a graphite iron shaft similar to a grand bassara 55 lite shaft. Just tried ping and pxg and can't match my old clubs 2017 epic stair irons but mine are worn out

  • @anttisavolainen547
    @anttisavolainen547 2 года назад

    Excellent Work👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @vincefalco
    @vincefalco Год назад +1

    Really interested in trying this. Currently have a Aldila ROGUE White 130 M.S.I. in the 60 Stiff. Is the Evenflow Riptide CB in the 40 Senior what I should be looking for? Thanks, really like your videos.

  • @brianthornton5345
    @brianthornton5345 2 года назад

    I loved the video with Mr Short game

  • @subpargolfer6654
    @subpargolfer6654 2 года назад +3

    Great info. Does torque play into this at all? Also just in general, I’m starting to hear grumblings that the traditional shaft flex to swing speed ideas aren’t necessarily the case any longer. Do you have any thoughts on that?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      Torque values were all in the 4 to 5.2 or so range with these shafts. Did not show any influence to my eye. Low torque is really only important with hard loading swings. Autoflex is usually not a great candidate for those sorts of golfers to start with.

  • @GolfBert
    @GolfBert Год назад

    Great Videos mobile clubmakers golf! PXG has a sale on 0211 drivers with riptide shafts. I have a Swingspeed between 95-100 mph. Can you recommend if i should get the L flex to try to copy the Autoflex?? I use stiff tensie blue right now at 44.75 which i hit pretty good.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад +2

      That would be the closest match to the 505 Autoflex which is what they would recommend for your swing speed.

  • @FinbarrAherne
    @FinbarrAherne 2 года назад +1

    Hi, love your content, but to provide constructive feedback, I think there is some nuance in this "debate". I initially thought the Autoflex shaft was pixie dust. Lighter shafts and senior flex shafts are extremely hard to time for a non-pro golfer with higher swing speeds, or amateurs who load the shaft heavily. I've played with clubs with R-Flex and Senior-Flex, and my experience is that when your tempo/timing is off, lighter and whippier shafts can be a disaster. My misses were hitting the ball into the ground and/or large dispersion (usually FORE LEFT!!!). On testing an Autoflex 505x driver shaft, I found the shaft extremely easy to time and my dispersion was as tight as my driver with a 60g X-flex, but my swing speed and ball speeds were noticeably quicker. Maybe in the future, run a test with a mid handicap golfer and compare their results in terms of swing speed, ball speed, smash factor, direction deviation and spin. Pro golfers like Mr Shortgame tend to have excellent tempo, so he's easily able to adapt to shafts with different flexes, but amateur golfers tend not to have this skill in their toolset.

    • @FinbarrAherne
      @FinbarrAherne 2 года назад

      I'm not dismissing your claim that the cheaper shafts can provide equal if not better results than Autoflex. I think that the above test would would provide more weight to your argument.

  • @rlbjr
    @rlbjr 2 года назад

    @Mobile Clubmaker. Hey AJ, what do you think of the Grafalloy PFC 50 Series? It is an older high launch/low spin shaft. Would a senior flex have a similar profile to the Motore F3?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      Not sure about PFC. ProLaunch is always a good shaft.
      Only issue I have is any shaft that claims high launch low spin is just flat out lying. Launch and spin go hand in hand, don't get one without the other.

  • @edf9992
    @edf9992 2 года назад

    Brilliant work

  • @Unplugged704
    @Unplugged704 Год назад

    Great video!
    Would you happen to know which club/brand put the Fujikura F3 on their drivers?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад +1

      Cobra was one. May have been others.

    • @Unplugged704
      @Unplugged704 Год назад +1

      @@EFGMC I'll look for other shafts with the same specs; light/sr., 40-45grams, high launch and low spin.

  • @bsmith4u2
    @bsmith4u2 Год назад

    @ Mobile Clubmaker Golf - Do you adjust the Swingweight after you add the ultralight shaft?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      Yes, if you are following what Autoflex says to do.

  • @patrickshanahan5870
    @patrickshanahan5870 Год назад

    So what specs would I be looking at in the Motore F3 or the EF CB if my swing speed is 90 mph? Your average swinger.

  • @runpuddrun
    @runpuddrun 2 года назад +2

    can't find the Motore X F3 anywhere...

  • @bulmariogonzalez5747
    @bulmariogonzalez5747 2 года назад

    AJ, what’s your thought on applying same idea with the Autoflex iron shafts vs other shafts you can think ?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      So you might need to drop a lot more than 2 weight classes with the irons as opposed to the driver shaft as they are also approx 50g. Depending on what your current shaft weights are. Flex I would use the same 2 flex rule as we did with the driver. I have not really seen anyone using the iron shafts so I am not sure if the flex is as exaggerated in the irons. Personally having super whippy irons would seem to cause more issues than benefits.

  • @normansykes8872
    @normansykes8872 2 года назад

    What about the UST V2 line in the 55 R flex? They have a V2 HL model as well.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      Haven't tried it but could work. Not sure how stiff that shaft plays.

  • @billcox199
    @billcox199 2 года назад

    Thanks ,I swing around 90 mph, I want to try the Riptide cb.Would you recommend the R flex or light ? Since Mr Short game tested the 5.5.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +3

      He had a typo in his video, it was the 5.0 we used.
      I would use the 40g 4.0
      The 5.0 was really a better comp to the 505xx or x which we didn't have out there.

  • @TWTexasA1
    @TWTexasA1 2 месяца назад +1

    That’s pretty tacky having people dawg you for trying to save those of us who can’t afford a $800 shaft….i don’t even have that much in my iron set..so thanks for what you do 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @kidze73
    @kidze73 11 месяцев назад

    Hi, love your channel! Do you think the Diamana RF 50 R or the Diamana ZF 40 R2 would match the autoflex? I have 89mph driver swing speed. I wonder what bend point is the autoflex, is it mid or low bend point? Thanks

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  11 месяцев назад

      It has a very soft mid section and tip with a stiffer handle comparatively. I have found the exact profile to be less important however than the weight and flex part.

  • @MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz
    @MichaelSmittySmithScottsdaleAz 2 месяца назад

    I pulled my senior riptide out of my pxg 3 wood for fun. Put it in my Black Ops driver, so playing 3 inches shorter and was hitting some great drivers. These shafts are not for a quick tempo. I've had 2 autoflex and they were all over the place for me. I pulled out the head weights to maximize as autoflex suggested

  • @kevinvassago
    @kevinvassago Месяц назад

    How would you co.pare the Fujikura airspeeder to the Autoflex? I read online it's Fujikura's version of the Autoflex, and another RUclipsr compared them, and they were similar, but that was more of a subjective type of comparison. So im wondering what your thoughts are about it

  • @spakuloid
    @spakuloid 2 года назад +1

    Great vids!

  • @robertpohaku7176
    @robertpohaku7176 2 года назад

    Nice!! How about the Paderson Kinetixx velocity?? Heard AF copied this shaft

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      Going to have to research that. Not sure??

  • @davidgraham2520
    @davidgraham2520 9 месяцев назад

    I have a mitsubishi bassara w series 50 hi flex A shaft. Would a Mitsubishi bassara W series 50 HI A flex be similar? I'm hitting my driver about 260-280 with a Tensei whit AV 6g gram stiff flex , not sure of my swing speed

  • @Fufiloofa
    @Fufiloofa 2 года назад +1

    That Motore F3 isn't even the aftermarket one, it's the one that came stock in Cobra drivers (ZL Encore), the Motore F3 came in 60 -70- 80 and 95 HB, not 55.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      I had a heck of a time finding a good spec sheet on that shaft and that is probably why. That said, this is even better for the argument if a "made for" shaft can provide similar results.
      Although I am not sure if this Motore was a made for or a repaint/repurpose Fuji shaft?

  • @nreyesjr0262
    @nreyesjr0262 2 года назад

    Great video!!

  • @DunnGolfing
    @DunnGolfing 2 года назад

    Very informative and clever 👍

  • @CaribSurfKing1
    @CaribSurfKing1 2 года назад

    OK, riddle me this. Why can I hit parallel S300 really straight and when I use taper tip S300's they are all over the place! I have placed parallel tip in other iron heads and yep, identical performance, regardless of head. Whenever I use taper, dispersion is all over the place. I have to assume the bend profile is quite different. Parallel S300's almost feel like a lower launching version of the original classic rifle shafts. Steps a larger and the first step is much closer to the head vs taper

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад

      Biggest difference is going to be the descending weight in a set of parallel tip shafts.

  • @user-jp6tt8xx4d
    @user-jp6tt8xx4d Год назад

    I`m now using the EvenFlow Riptide CB 40 5.0 in my driver with 105-108Mph club head speed. Which shaft should I use for my 3Wood? What swing weight would you play?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      Same flex but one weight class heavier for a 3 wood. Probably drop the SW a couple points.

  • @l.morris4667
    @l.morris4667 2 года назад +1

    @mobileclubmaker. Where can I find that matore shaft? Or what new version to buy?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  2 года назад +1

      Motore X is readily available. The F3 5 R2 would be the closest match I believe. I plan on testing it against the old Motore I used in an upcoming video.

  • @amandaroy8623
    @amandaroy8623 Год назад

    i put the even flow in my pxg gen 5 driver wow the biggest thing i have found is i can get higher flights my miss are so much better not sure if its the weight or if its the shaft profile i was think of trying this on my 5 wood any thought on a shaft thanks for the info you provide

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      I would probably go up 10g in a fairway wood. I haven't tried the Autoflex fairway shafts, I assume they are a bit stiffer than the driver.

    • @amandaroy8623
      @amandaroy8623 Год назад

      @@EFGMC thank i will try it thanks for the reply

  • @johna7354
    @johna7354 Месяц назад

    Hi hope you will see this . Have you been able to test the graphite design ag33 shaft? One RUclips video compared to auto flex . The guy has a 110 mph plus speed and was using the regular and was hitting it really well. My swing speed is 100 to 103 mph and use a Ventus blue in 5s and have used the 6r and 6s. These are sub 40 grams and was wondering do I get the regular flex or the r2 flex? Possible for a review of this shaft?
    Also do you have any opinion on the all-fit driver adapter bc have a Taylormade and titleist driver. Thank you

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Месяц назад

      Thanks for the suggestions. I will look into that shaft. Any number of shafts can accomplish the same thing as the Autoflex. All about dropping some weight and a couple flex ratings. Also want a mid to high launch profile if we are trying to get close to the Autoflex.

  • @marcelmenaro2314
    @marcelmenaro2314 Год назад

    Hi.. Thanks for the video! would a fuji kura ventus red 5 / r2 flex work as well? Does it have a similar profile to the motore x F3 5 r2?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      It's pretty close. The most important part is the weight and flexy feel so I think it would work.

  • @petermartinaitis8166
    @petermartinaitis8166 9 месяцев назад

    Bit late in the day but can you advise the butt and tip configurations for these shafts.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  9 месяцев назад

      What is your current weight and flex you are using?

  • @catgolfer1
    @catgolfer1 2 года назад

    I have a 20 dollar Apollo F/L stiff shaft with a 'sting stopper' insert, spined to 9 o'clock. It's put into a 12.5 degree Acer custom head and a Pure blue jumbo grip. 200 bucks. Love it.😺

  • @gmwilliams4314
    @gmwilliams4314 2 года назад +3

    My wife gifted me a 7 day all inclusive vacation that included resort hotel/spa/meals/drinks, a tour of the Ping Factory, a club fitting and all you could play golf in/around Scottsdale, Arizona in the early 90's where I met Mr. John Solheim. He introduced our group to the man credited with inventing and bringing to market the first graphite shafts. The Gentleman gave our group an impromptu talk about graphite shafts. I remember him being angry at how expensive graphite shafts were becoming. He said graphite shafts are inexpensive to produce no matter what Technology goes into making them. In his opinion if you are paying anything over $50.00 US Dollars for one you are getting robbed! I am sorry I don't remember his name. He was a Brilliant Man with a great sense of humor. Please be kind to others and stay safe. ✌

  • @jrod0328
    @jrod0328 2 года назад

    Hey AJ, this isn’t related to this video, but I can’t find this info online or any of the usual golf forums. I hit my dads old steel shafted driver well, and I wonder what characteristics in a graphite shaft might replicate that feel. This was another great video and info as always!

  • @obxarms7685
    @obxarms7685 3 месяца назад

    So a year later I wonder if this applies to the BRAVA as well??

  • @johnhoward8668
    @johnhoward8668 9 месяцев назад

    Hi AJ, Question, some of the long drives guys are using 40 gram shafts. Not sure of the flex. Kind of whippy, ( not sure that’s a word), would that work for a 100MPH swing speed? Thoughts? And thank you. Great channel.

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, that's the idea here. Pick a shaft that is both lighter and more flexible than you would otherwise be fit into.

    • @johnhoward8668
      @johnhoward8668 9 месяцев назад

      @@EFGMC Thanks AJ.

  • @judenwaiwu4583
    @judenwaiwu4583 11 месяцев назад

    I currently play stiff shafts but if I have the motore X f3 5-R instead of senior flex, could I put that counter balance weight on the grip end to make flex softer? What do you think? Thanks

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  11 месяцев назад +1

      The counter balance would not change the flex. You could add more weight to the head to soften it.

  • @seebeardtry
    @seebeardtry 25 дней назад

    Might be a stupid question but I understand what you are saying in regards to moving down 2 flexes, I currently swing a regular so I would potentially move down to a ladies. My question is; isn’t there a risk of the shaft breaking from the extra swing speed beyond what it is rated for? I’m not a monster driver but average 225 and the ladies is rated almost 80 yards shorter from what I’m seeing online, am I misunderstanding something here?

  • @golfingbuddy1
    @golfingbuddy1 Год назад

    Quick question, what’s the recommendation on tip trimming to get the same results for a player that normal trims 1” off the tip for these two shafts?

    • @EFGMC
      @EFGMC  Год назад

      I would do the same 1 inch tipping.

    • @golfingbuddy1
      @golfingbuddy1 Год назад

      @@EFGMC thank you

  • @williamtheadventurer8048
    @williamtheadventurer8048 4 месяца назад

    Is the autoflex shaft, the same as uniflex of late 90’s?