I have the J-max and agree that the magnetic catch can be a problem. I have to be very careful that the magnetic catch doesn’t dislodge when grinding. I have another grinder that has a screw on cup and I like it better than the J-max magnetic cup.
Awesome video man, waiting for this to come in today. I’ve seen many other videos from small RUclipsrs to the big coffee channels and yours is by far the best demo for setup. Others tend to over complicate vid with unnecessary info
I just got this grinder. I was going through the calibration and have found a difference in the manual from what you seem to be doing. You say you shouldn't be able to turn the dial past zero. The manual says zero shouldn't be when there is resistance when turning the handle. This happens much sooner than what it would take to completely stop the dial from turning past zero although it is a more arbitrary point. Anyway love the grinder thanks for the video
The Taiwan engineers that developed the 1Zpresso grinder line should be happy with their great results. Thanks for the fine hands on use video, CY. I believe that WDT refers to water droplet tech. One just give a brief mist of water or wet the end of a chopstick etc and stir around the beans before grinding. This does greatly reduce static. Cheers.
Weiss Distribution Technique The Weiss Distribution Technique (WDT) is a distribution method for espresso making. Using a fine needle or similar tool, the barista stirs the coffee while it sits in the portafilter. A funnel placed above the portafilter helps prevent spills.5 Mar 2021 I think the water one refers to RDT.
hi, I weigh the beans into to the lower chamber, and (if not too husky) just brush the remaining powder from the bottom straight into the lower catching chamber also
I'm not sure if you are still using this grinder, but I have had excellent results with avoiding retention by spraying two small spritz of water on the beans with water and shaking them in a dosing cup before pouring beans inside of the grinder!
@@iyawnis you can do that of course but why go thru the trouble of that when most spray bottles are $1-8 USD and you refill once and you’re good for at least 6-12 months depending how big the bottle is. I also saw more consistent results with the spray because it evenly coats the beans in water vs just wetting your fingers and touching them or having it drip out of your hands
Hi CY, I use a JX Pro (in addition to the DF64) and I've had a lot of success against static with one spray of RDT and shake in a dosing cup. It won't hurt the burrs because the beans aren't completely dry anyways, and it's easier to add and remove beans from a cup than the grinder body. Then after grinding, hand bellow then tap the bottom on your tamping mat. For espresso the retainage is less than 0.1 g, and for pourover it's usually just a little chaff.
Hi DeRock. Thanks for letting me know. The reasons for me not using RDT is I get almost zero retention without RDT and hence there is no need to use it. Secondly, for espresso grind I hardly have any static issue. Hence again there is no need to use RDT. For filtered coffee, like what you are doing, I have the k pro, comandante or Millwright to substitute the DF64. My DF64 is installed with SSP Red Speed Multipurpose burr and I also tend to use it for filtered coffee top as it's extremely sweet and high clarity. The static issue on the DF64 with coarser ground is not significant. The is perhaps due to the high humidity in Singapore. However, I am mostly with aircon and hence static should show up. But it works wonderfully for me without RDT and hence I don't use it.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore Thanks for the reply! Certainly for your other grinders without static issues, no need to RDT. It may just be one thing to try with the J Max. Along with tapping it on the table or on the side with your hand, some combination may help!
It's interesting that your grind setting for apparently espresso, is way outside the recommended values, which are between one and two - and yet, it's still produces the desired result. 😁
I have a 1ZPresso K-Pro. Just gently knock the whole grinder on your tamping mat after grinding. Almost all the grinds will be in the grinds catcher afterwards. If you really want to compare speed between handgrinders do not take the time but count the rotations you need to grind your beans... :-)
Any recommended grind setting for my Breville Bambino Espresso Machine? I did one full rotation and pulled a shot at 1.4 but no crema. Maybe I need to calibrate it.
CY, How would you compare it to the Millwright Hand grinder for espresso? I realize it grinds much faster for espresso but what about the grind itself for espresso. I have the Millwright Hand Grinder but only use it when I travel. At home I will use the Niche or the DF64.
Maybe before using your spin device and your tamper, you should rake the coffee with some instrument either a fork or some kind of whisk to evenly distribute the coffee before you do the tamping. Maybe that will help avoid the channeling.
do you think you could connect a cordless drill to the top of the hand grinder instead of cranking it by hand so it gets done faster? so you would not put the handle back on after putting beans in it, just the cordless drill on the main shaft. and, are those all made by the same company?
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore I mostly agree. I ordered a df64 and it is taking a long time to arrive. So I am thinking about what is a good backup, cheaper grinder. I was hoping I could get this, hookup a cordless drill to the tip and still get it to grind pretty quickly.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore How can I find your website? And I'm using lelit anna but with 57mm handle it's hard to find tools, do you have any for lelit anna
Woah, That's insane amount of retention. Must be the humidity in Singapore haha. I have the same grinder and I don't have this issue. 20g in 19.95g out with a few taps. I can brush the rest straight into the catcher or basket without spillage.
Great video. I like the comparison Cy very interestin. I want to rest time on how long it takes to grind on my mill Wright 18g now. Also want to compare the Mara X and Bianca to see differences. I like the slim line look of the Mara X.
One of the most thorough overview/review videos on the JMax I have seen so far. Thank you! Mine is arriving today and I can't wait to try it. Have you tried a little squirt of water on the beens before grinding to reduce static? Maybe it will help? I will try when I get my grinder. Thumbs up on the video! 👍👏☕️
@@richterstitcher7936 i do RDT with my 1Zpresso Kplus for my pour over with a small spray bottle. Something like 0.1g. That quantity does not affect the burr at all. I have been doing this for more than 6 months twice daily and my burr are still like news.
Hi, i have the same “ground coffee stuck” problem before. You just have to spray the coffee beans with water twice, or you add a couple droplets of water and stir the beans before grinding, that’s how i solve that problem. hope this helps you!
Hi, Could you please compare between J-Max and K-Pro in term of espresso, pour over ? And which one easier to grind, faster to grind I'm considering between this two and I looking grinder for both espresso & pour over
@@Aliaz93moneyfingerz thanks bro. I just have some habits which is hard for me to change...like keep saying..."right" at the end of a sentence. That's a teacher habit of mine.
I have the J-max and agree that the magnetic catch can be a problem. I have to be very careful that the magnetic catch doesn’t dislodge when grinding. I have another grinder that has a screw on cup and I like it better than the J-max magnetic cup.
I use no spray and I have no problem with static in my j-max. Only a small residue. Just clean it after every use.
yeah its good. i dont use water too.
Awesome video man, waiting for this to come in today. I’ve seen many other videos from small RUclipsrs to the big coffee channels and yours is by far the best demo for setup. Others tend to over complicate vid with unnecessary info
Hope you enjoy it!
I tab the grinder on a cork board and that mostly does the trick. I didn't even have to use RDT spray but I live in fairly dry area too (California).
thank you for the advice!
I just got this grinder. I was going through the calibration and have found a difference in the manual from what you seem to be doing. You say you shouldn't be able to turn the dial past zero. The manual says zero shouldn't be when there is resistance when turning the handle. This happens much sooner than what it would take to completely stop the dial from turning past zero although it is a more arbitrary point. Anyway love the grinder thanks for the video
The Taiwan engineers that developed the 1Zpresso grinder line should be happy with their great results. Thanks for the fine hands on use video, CY. I believe that WDT refers to water droplet tech. One just give a brief mist of water or wet the end of a chopstick etc and stir around the beans before grinding. This does greatly reduce static. Cheers.
Weiss Distribution Technique
The Weiss Distribution Technique (WDT) is a distribution method for espresso making. Using a fine needle or similar tool, the barista stirs the coffee while it sits in the portafilter. A funnel placed above the portafilter helps prevent spills.5 Mar 2021
I think the water one refers to RDT.
LOL...my bad. It can be confusing.@@CaffeMartellaSingapore
hi, I weigh the beans into to the lower chamber, and (if not too husky) just brush the remaining powder from the bottom straight into the lower catching chamber also
so there is still need for brushing. I see.
I'm not sure if you are still using this grinder, but I have had excellent results with avoiding retention by spraying two small spritz of water on the beans with water and shaking them in a dosing cup before pouring beans inside of the grinder!
Yes I am still using it!
Do you actually need to use a sprayer? have you tried just having few drops of water and then shake ? Just wondering..
@@iyawnis you can do that of course but why go thru the trouble of that when most spray bottles are $1-8 USD and you refill once and you’re good for at least 6-12 months depending how big the bottle is. I also saw more consistent results with the spray because it evenly coats the beans in water vs just wetting your fingers and touching them or having it drip out of your hands
Hi, have you tried spraying / misting your beans before grinding? This may help if static is causing the retention.
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. I know RDT helps but I don't like any amount of water in my burrs hence I don't do DRT at all.
What is that tamping station you got. i love it and would like one myself.
I will place them on my website soon!
Spray the coffee beans with a little water before putting in the grinder. That would reduce the static significantly.
Hi CY, I use a JX Pro (in addition to the DF64) and I've had a lot of success against static with one spray of RDT and shake in a dosing cup. It won't hurt the burrs because the beans aren't completely dry anyways, and it's easier to add and remove beans from a cup than the grinder body. Then after grinding, hand bellow then tap the bottom on your tamping mat. For espresso the retainage is less than 0.1 g, and for pourover it's usually just a little chaff.
Hi DeRock. Thanks for letting me know. The reasons for me not using RDT is I get almost zero retention without RDT and hence there is no need to use it. Secondly, for espresso grind I hardly have any static issue. Hence again there is no need to use RDT. For filtered coffee, like what you are doing, I have the k pro, comandante or Millwright to substitute the DF64. My DF64 is installed with SSP Red Speed Multipurpose burr and I also tend to use it for filtered coffee top as it's extremely sweet and high clarity. The static issue on the DF64 with coarser ground is not significant. The is perhaps due to the high humidity in Singapore. However, I am mostly with aircon and hence static should show up. But it works wonderfully for me without RDT and hence I don't use it.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore Thanks for the reply! Certainly for your other grinders without static issues, no need to RDT. It may just be one thing to try with the J Max. Along with tapping it on the table or on the side with your hand, some combination may help!
@@daRock1212 You are right.
Hey i use jxpro too, can you give me how many click for this lelit ?
It's interesting that your grind setting for apparently espresso, is way outside the recommended values, which are between one and two - and yet, it's still produces the desired result. 😁
Thank you for this video. What other tools are you using here (portafilter cradle, distribution tool, tamp)?
Yeah, I would like to know as well. Thanks!
please share details of other equipments, especially the tamping set up :)
great grinder!
It is. But the grind retention under the burr is too much a hassle.
Good video, thank you. Where did you get the portafilter holder? Is it ok for a 74 mm portafilter?
74mm?
I have a 1ZPresso K-Pro. Just gently knock the whole grinder on your tamping mat after grinding. Almost all the grinds will be in the grinds catcher afterwards. If you really want to compare speed between handgrinders do not take the time but count the rotations you need to grind your beans... :-)
Hi raitro, thank you for the suggestion on knocking the grinder gently on the temping mat. I will definitely try it later on.
Hey CY…
What is the WDT tool that you use?
That is a spinning WDT tool.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore I have looked a few times. I can’t find one. Do you have a manufacturer or model name?
Any recommended grind setting for my Breville Bambino Espresso Machine? I did one full rotation and pulled a shot at 1.4 but no crema. Maybe I need to calibrate it.
I do not have any issues with coffee stucked to the „bottom“. Anyhow I hear that RDT might help.
CY, How would you compare it to the Millwright Hand grinder for espresso? I realize it grinds much faster for espresso but what about the grind itself for espresso. I have the Millwright Hand Grinder but only use it when I travel. At home I will use the Niche or the DF64.
Hi Ed. This is what I am going to test soon.
Very detailed
Good video with good information 👍 thanks!
The needle distributor is suppose to be turned slowly by hand without spinning.
Anyway, try 0.4mm needles, works the best.
thanks for the advice!
Maybe before using your spin device and your tamper, you should rake the coffee with some instrument either a fork or some kind of whisk to evenly distribute the coffee before you do the tamping. Maybe that will help avoid the channeling.
Hey CY,
I think it is wise to remove the sticker from your grouphead. I think it tends to melt on to it if you leave it on too long.
thank you Bart for the advice!
I have the 1Zpresso KPlus for my pour over and love it ! What is the tamping station your using ? :)
3 drops water or 3 spritz water from tiny spray bottle before grinding. Shake the beans after wetting
Have been looking at the MaraX. Happy with it? Would you recommend?
it's really very stable and easy to use. even for beginner
do you think you could connect a cordless drill to the top of the hand grinder instead of cranking it by hand so it gets done faster? so you would not put the handle back on after putting beans in it, just the cordless drill on the main shaft.
and, are those all made by the same company?
I believe the point of using hand is the grind it slow. If I want it fast, I will use an electric grinder.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore I mostly agree. I ordered a df64 and it is taking a long time to arrive. So I am thinking about what is a good backup, cheaper grinder. I was hoping I could get this, hookup a cordless drill to the tip and still get it to grind pretty quickly.
@@igiveupfine I would suggest treat it like a work out!😉
Tell me about the website to buy the barista tools you are using
soon they will be available on my website.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore How can I find your website? And I'm using lelit anna but with 57mm handle it's hard to find tools, do you have any for lelit anna
@@KizaBeo that is a weird size. I am quite puzzled by Lelit Anna will us 57mm instead of 58mm. I think that size will be very hard to get accessories.
Woah, That's insane amount of retention. Must be the humidity in Singapore haha. I have the same grinder and I don't have this issue. 20g in 19.95g out with a few taps.
I can brush the rest straight into the catcher or basket without spillage.
Great video. I like the comparison Cy very interestin. I want to rest time on how long it takes to grind on my mill Wright 18g now. Also want to compare the Mara X and Bianca to see differences. I like the slim line look of the Mara X.
Thanks Lynda. I will lay my hands on the bianca and do a comparison with the VBM Domobar Super.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore Dane was just telling Hoon about the VBM sounds like another interesting machine so many choices!
@@richterstitcher7936 yeah very soon I will have it in my channel.
One of the most thorough overview/review videos on the JMax I have seen so far. Thank you! Mine is arriving today and I can't wait to try it. Have you tried a little squirt of water on the beens before grinding to reduce static? Maybe it will help? I will try when I get my grinder. Thumbs up on the video! 👍👏☕️
Thank you for the support mate. Usually I don't RDT. But I may give it a try the next time I use it.
Second question/suggestion…
Can you please try RDT? I would love to know how much less static/retention that would make.
Sorry I don't do RDT at all. As I don't want water in my burrs.
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore yes I don’t use RDT either CY even in my express grinder! Water and beans ground will only make it clog up!!👍
@@richterstitcher7936 i do RDT with my 1Zpresso Kplus for my pour over with a small spray bottle. Something like 0.1g. That quantity does not affect the burr at all. I have been doing this for more than 6 months twice daily and my burr are still like news.
@@JPC326 I guess is user preference. I choose not to use RDT. To each there own. I’m glad it works for you 👍
let me try it later on my J Max
Hi, i have the same “ground coffee stuck” problem before. You just have to spray the coffee beans with water twice, or you add a couple droplets of water and stir the beans before grinding, that’s how i solve that problem. hope this helps you!
hi friend. Thanks for the suggestion. I don't like to spray water in my burr but thank you as my viewers may want to try the method you suggested.
Hi, Could you please compare between J-Max and K-Pro in term of espresso, pour over ?
And which one easier to grind, faster to grind
I'm considering between this two and I looking grinder for both espresso & pour over
yes will be doing that soon.
This one or comendante?
no. This is 1zpresso
Hi , CY你好。我是john , 马来西亚的观众，看了你蛮多的影片，很喜欢你的介绍，最近在看手磨，是否能够看到 kingrinder K4 ？听说和 1zpresso 有很多相似的地方的，希望能看到它的 review . 小小建议，收音可以靠近一点，有时是不是听得很清楚。谢谢你的分享，在我的咖啡上真的得多很多帮助😄
John 您好。我会去了解一下 "Kingdrinder K4" 看看能不能入手一支。声量我会用上我刚买的 蓝牙Mic, 现在还在测试中。希望将来声量会比较大，而且清楚一点。谢谢您的支持！
RDT is the way
Maybe. My df64 with declumpet v2 upgrade don't really require RDT at all.
the extraction of bottomless portafilter = oddly satisfaction
yes it is
Fyi this made me go research coffee grinders lol
haha Aliaz bro!
@@CaffeMartellaSingapore how's it going...looks like your business is doing well..I'm happy for you....oh and your English sounds great fyi
@@Aliaz93moneyfingerz thanks bro. I just have some habits which is hard for me to change...like keep saying..."right" at the end of a sentence. That's a teacher habit of mine.
is not expreso... is espresso...... It is not express is es-press. Nice review