Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon: The 3 wildest theories
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- Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon: The 3 wildest theories
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The first theory boils my blood. It is based on nothing.
It is an awful thing to accuse one girl of murdering the other!
And she ate her afterwards 🍴
It's fan fiction and when I think about who would write that story that boils MY blood.
That's Reddit armchair detectives for you. They come up with the most toxic theories.
I used to think this was a complete mystery and very perplexing but it isnt. A few days after the girls were last seen a german tourist heard a woman or women screaming he then saw two women and 2/3 men hiding in the bushes. He then ran off and noted the police. He said he dropped his water bottle and indeed when police investigated they found his water bottle near the sighting. Theres no reason for him to lie. Theres also a evidence of french tourists hearing women scream.
Of course the ridiculous first theory would be found in the cesspit of reddit 🤣
the first theory is laughable and insane at best
Organ harvesting tourists is, if you think about it, drawing more attention and suspicion than kidnapping, murdering, and harvesting locals which Panama have plenty of. Pick any who is poor or a nobody , locals who won’t be missed when gone. Tourists on the other hand leave so many trails like their entrance to the country, hotel bookings, cards usage… especially if they’re from first world country like the Netherland. So no, this theory for me is as ridiculous as the theory of Kris had an unrequited love for Lisanne.
Sex trafficking more probable
@@existenz001 sex trafficking is unlikely especially pelvis bones were found. Rape? Surely, it is very likely they were raped but that's something else. Also, as nearly evidence by the mysterious killings of the 5 people (4 cartel member,1 taxi driver) that were involved in this story, it is likely that this was a cartel operation. Leaving, rape+ organ harvesting as the most likely scenario.
Humans underestimate how easy it is to die in the woods. It's either a cognitive bias or we've seen too many movies.
Idiiot
Yes it is very easy but items are not as scattered over 10 miles in all different directions
There are witnesses who say they were seen back in town after their hike. Yes… it is indeed very possible they did just get lost and die in the woods. Also very possible there was foul play, any one of a hundred different possible scenarios. That’s why this case is so crazy, and fully captures our minds and imaginations.
@@Smiggly2574 There’s plenty of hiking cases where items got scattered and found in multiple locations. Items can end up in water and wash up in different locations down stream. Animals can scavenge and move items. It doesn’t have to be something edible for an animal to get interested. I’ve had multiple trail cam’s tore down and carried away by bears. Absolutely nothing edible about a trail cam, yet they still tear them down. If there were body parts an animal would definitely be attracted to the smell. Not to mention we don’t know if they passed at the same time. So let’s say Kris passed first, lisanne might stay with her body for a while but eventually she’d have to move to find food or water and especially help. So maybe one passed first and the other did the only thing they could do, keep moving, try to find a way out. Unless they passed away at the exact same time it’s highly unlikely their bodies would be in the same location. If one survived days after the other she could have traveled miles. I don’t believe they passed at the same time, so unless the other stayed by the deceased body and never moved again they’d be in different locations.
@@user-hc9vl3tq7u it's clear that you didn't see the original video of the story. they found the foot of one of the girls cut neatly! do you think wild animals make use of axes? 😆
How would cannibal natives delete that last photo which could only be done with a computer
Why would you need a computer? On my digital camera you can delete photos straight from the camera! No problem at all.
@@InspektoraDeFrutasthey were permanently deleted. To do that you need to hook it up to a computer. Just deleting on the camera leaves something you call a ghost photo which is the reminemce of the photo and can be reconstructed by a professional.
How do people explain away the fact that one of their boots had a strip of human flesh rolled up and stuffed inside it?
RUclips always is bad for limiting my choices of vacation spots. Most places in the world are really dangerous! anyway, can’t wait for my cave diving expedition next week!
Guess you didn't read about the dude at nutty putty
got into this about 3 years ago drove me nuts? watched everything i could. things started to turn up when the reward was posted. French couple said they herd screams coming from the track sad thing is they or one was still alive when the search started? best program regarding this is by a Dutch girl 4 parts it's on you tube
Mysteries With Maja. She did a great job covering this in detail with a series of videos
I believe the theory about *The Cinco Band* (or whatever their name was) is BY FAR the most plausible one!
Especially considering that four people out of that band were murdered shortly after the girls died, one by one by one…
Even a fool would understand that someone is getting rid of witnesses! 🚨
Sooooo, having all this information in facts at hand, it is absolutely insane to even consider any other theories as anything serious.
Common sense, people! Logic and common sense!
And some critical thinking wouldn’t hurt either. ☝️
👍 Awesome video. Truly wish this mystery can be solved. RIP dear girls.🤗✌️
dude sends a hug emoji right after' RIP dear girls'
psycho
Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon were abducted by Henry Elizer Gonzalez step son of Felicano Gonzalez and a few of his gang members. They were originally going to be trafficked but for some reason the it was called off, and Henry Gonzalez was left with what to do with the girls. Sadly they were taken somewhere and held captive, se abused, murdered and dismembered. 😢😢
Felicano Gonzalez knows exactly what happened to Kris and Lisanne. All the members of the gang except Henry Elizer Gonzalez are dead, they died in mysterious circumstances, and that includes the taxi driver who dropped them off at the trail. They were silenced, by Henry Gonzalez cause he was afraid that they would tell what happened.
F has thumbs the size of zucchinis. He also knows the area where the girls disappeared belter than anyone.
I believe the theory about *The Cinco Band* (or whatever their name was) is BY FAR the most plausible one!
Especially considering that four people out of that band were murdered shortly after the girls died, one by one by one…
Feliciano’s (the shady guide’s) son was part of that gang, BTW.
Even a fool would understand that someone is getting rid of witnesses! 🚨
Sooooo, having all this information in facts at hand, it is absolutely insane to even consider any other theories as anything serious.
Common sense, people! Logic and common sense!
And some critical thinking wouldn’t hurt either. ☝️
@@InspektoraDeFrutas "Even a fool would understand that someone is getting rid of witnesses!" So the deaths are a giveaway; a huge 'tell'. Okay, but if you are right the deaths were of accomplices, who had the very best of reasons for not talking about Kris and Lissane's murders. Until someone started bumping them off one by one over the course of more than a year, after those deaths started by the 2nd hit the members lined up to be 3rd of 4th would surely be likely to go to the police, leave town, or pre emptively what those who were intent on doing them in. Old eff and his boy may be oh so tough with a couple of undefended girls, but would they be a match for 2tough tough young men who were killer too? kris and Lissane tried to get the old man for their fateful hike and he could have guessed where they'd be heading from their previous interactions about trails. He and his son know that area and the phone reception zones in it better than anyone in the world and he owns numerous remote properties in the forest . Kris was alive for over a week. What would the gang have brought to the table for getting away with a crime of such extreme seriousness? Nothing at all. And according to your theory they were total wimps without the animal courage to defend themselves , yet they were brought in on a double homicide. Why on earth would you know who need them or want them involved. The fact that they got away with it shows that our old friends are a couple of very cunning men, who only rely on the unbreakable father son bond they share. No way in hell would they bring youths with no such bond into something that had to be kept secret forever.
Fewer selfies = more battery life
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Occam's razor if you ask me, brev.
After all this contradictting online information i can only come to one conclusion! Accident then foul play or foul play then 'accident' . So can we stop now?
Went to Panama a third world country. A country with a high crime rate. Went hiking in Panama without a guide. Very bad choice!
really bad ai commentary
Browns hates YTs, this happens
On the contrary POCs outside America LOVE white people, they always wanna take pictures with random white people especially the ones who have light color hairs like Kris and Lisanne.
Stupid comment of the day goes to....
It's the guide
what gets me is it's not a very interesting stunning hike ?
Banditos might could get hungry, yo.
Well, the cannibal tribe theory maķes somewhat sense in my opinion, it might be the best one after the accidental death of course
But you can’t explain how the last photo was completely deleted which can only be done on a computer. On the camera you can delete is but it leaves what you call a ghost photo which is bits of the photo that can be put together by a professional to reform the image, this couldn’t be done with photo 509
My theory is aliens, i watched the movie predator with swarzenegger, maybe something was hunting them
Are you dumb
I was thinking since America invaded the country recently like Iraq are the people in Panama still pissed off with Gringo's
America invade everyone no likes them
May I add the fourth theory. They committed suicide. Someone found the backpack and decided to take it home. He made all the calls for fun. Then two months later he indirectly turned in everything he has kept for the sake of the reward. He took the night pictures on day8 also for fun
Please ' WEIRDEST' ! 🫣 The small details matter !