I love the mk23 so much I have 3 of them. Ti-rant 45 is really nice on them. I'am waiting on the KAC can they were made for each other. you really were shooting this gun like a pro keep up the great videos .
Out of all of the handguns that I own, I can honestly say that this is my favorite handgun... a classic that I keep going back to. This gun runs amazing suppressed as well. Currently running the rugged suppressors obsidian 45 and it really does level the gun out so much to where hitting 3 inch hanging AR500 steel targets are a breeze and most importantly.... consistent target connection.
Well i can't help you decide on a suppressor, but i do know that ill be getting whatever you go with for my mark 23 as well as I've learned so far that you have excellent taste in nor just firearms but accessories as well. Thank you for the videos keep up the great work buddy, and welcome to Texas from an East Texan.
We'll have to meet up when I get back there. I got stationed out of state, but I'm marking the calendar for my return. When I visit the inlaws and friends I'll let you know, maybe we can go shooting.
@@navyman8903 Yea man i love to shoot, not sure where your inlaws and friends live but i live in Henderson, nearest range for me is in a city named Longview to give you an idea.
I have the Mk23 little brother the HK USP EXPERT 45 I would love to see these together to compare sizes that would be interesting. I think my expert model is really practical I just wish people made more accessories like holsters I had one made for my duty rig. I also wish HK would make a Jetfunnel for it with higher capacity 45acp mags.
Todd, HK Parts makes a 17-round, steel magazine for the Mk 23. It is the German HK 12-rounder with a "+5 bottom" made specifically for the Mk 23. $120 each - expensive, yes, but well worth it, in my opinion..!!
I have been using SolumTool + 3 baseplate spring kits for 15rnds but will check those out. Now I hate Promag but my friend took their 20rnd mag replaced the follower with a HK one and has excellent success no issues yet he has around 500rnds down range. I might get one just to piss off the libs.
Todd, You might check with HK Parts Store. They make 17-round, "extended", ultra-high-capacity, .45 ACP magazines for the Mark 23. Love 'em to death - they work extremely well. I glued little rubber "feet" on the aluminum bottoms (with "gorilla glue") to protect them, should I ever drop the mag onto a hard surface (concrete, etc), especially when loaded.
Todd, the only real "external" difference is the Mk 23 has a 1" longer barrel & slide. Internally, all the parts in a Mk 23 are bigger, thicker, longer, "beefier", etc. when compared to any of the other HK pistols chambered in .45ACP.
Jessica rabbit is exactly what this guns name is! Nailed iiiiiittt! Solely because of your channel, I now need every h&k being made😩when my fiance finds put I spent over a grand on a hand gun, I'm pointing her in your direction 😃🫵
IT was mine for sure and when I got a shot at one, I jumped on it. Great gun and well worth the price of admission after shooting it this much. At this point I've got more rounds through it than dollars spent on it. It feels good.
This was my primary weapon when I had to infiltrate a base in Alaska that had been taken over by some former spec ops guys. They were planning to launch a mobile nuclear weapon delivery platform. It was pretty crazy stuff, but, thankfully, my trusty HK never let me down.
Dude you pushed me the rest of the way over the edge in getting my MK23. I'd like a Osprey 45 for it. In the meantime the night sight as you mentioned would be great.
@@navyman8903 I've seen this before, just the drilling part made me kind of hesitant. Do they just install regular trijicon tritium lamps? If there was an hd option, that would be titts.
I carry mine with an HK Parts 17-round magazine, and a spare 17-rounder. HK Parts is also close to coming out with their "2nd gen." compensator. ToolTech Gunsight of Oxford, Michigan, installs custom Tritium night sights on the Mk 23. I carry a Mk 23 - concealed - with no problem. Remember, an empty Mk 23 weighs in at 39 oz. An empty 1911 weighs in at 42 oz. Doesn't seem so "huge" now, does it..??
I get that completely. I feel a lot faster with the USP 45, but the MARK 23 is just a house with a can on it. I'm eager to try it with a can and a surefire X300UB. Should keep it hyper flat with 230gr. IT shoots really smooth, but a lot of reciprocating mass. The USP45T is just easier to use overall. But I'm happy I bought the MARK 23 when I did.
Reker.A, I don't blame you. The USP series are just fine. Look into the USP "Elite" pistol in .45. A LONG barreled gun (6.1" compared to 5.9" with the Mk 23), with a lot of the features of both the Mk 23 as well as the USP "Tactical .45", but at half the cost. An excellent choice, I think..!!
Is there a good option for a suppressor with a tilting barrel buffer compensated suppressor that isn’t the KAC? I don’t want to shell out that much cash for old technology despite the cool appearance and the continuity of the HK warranty
Man! I just told myself that I wasn't going to buy any more toys... until I saw this video and it reminded me of my wishlist. BTW, I'm getting this gun just to run it in 3 Guns... watch me.
I had 2 at one point. Loved it at the time for my "Apocalypse pistol". But finally admitted that there are better guns for that, so I sold it and used funds for a B&T USW-A1 that i sbrd. love it
Nowadays, it'd be hard to pass up a Glock 19. Everyone has one. Magazines (along with the 17 ) are literally everywhere. Spare parts are extremely easy to obtain. However, the Mark 23 is a gun that will never fail you. Worse comes to worse, the KAC can can be used as a baton
@@rustyshackleford17 Rusty, keep in mind one thing about Glocks in general: True, nobody "plans" on having their gun snatched away from them in a struggle. But, it can happen. Are you aware of the fully documented fact that just over 80% of the law enforcement officers annually, who have ended up getting shot with their own guns, were carrying Glocks..? The Glock has no "proprietary" safety, like a 1911. That little "trigger within the trigger" thingy is a "passive" safety - designed to prevent the gun from firing should it ever be dropped on it's muzzle. I'm 69 years old, and while I certainly don't plan on having my gun grabbed away from me in a struggle, I'm also not so stupid as to think "That could never happen to me..!" The point being (and this is EXACTLY why I will never own or carry a Glock), is that if someone ever gets that gun away from you & decides to shoot you with it (assuming there's a round chambered to begin with), you are well and truly fucked...!! A well-known gun writer, as well as being both a field and courtroom expert on these matters, Massad Ayoob, many years ago, conducted a "field experiment" wherein he took a fair number of folks who had never handled a pistol before, sat them down, and handed each person an unloaded 1911 that had it's hammer cocked and it's slide safety placed "on". Each person was asked to figure out how to depress the trigger and "fire" the gun. It took the average person 25 seconds to figure out how to deactivate the safety and drop the hammer..! That's plenty of time to seek cover, pull out a backup gun, or both. I carry my HK Mk 23 "cocked & locked". I also carry a 5-shot S&W Model 49 Bodyguard revolver in a right side jacket pocket holster, and loaded with .38Spcl, 110-gr.+P+, h/p rounds. I'm just giving you this little bit of insight merely as "food for thought"..!
Do you think it'll run in the harsh arctic environment of Shadow Moses? The Mk. 23 is one of the few H&K pistols that I love but have no desire to ever pay for or feed. Hilariously big, a questionable purchase at best, but I still love it and appreciate the engineering behind it. It's one of those classic Video Game / Movie Guns that just makes you feel good whenever you see it. Still no desire to pay for one anytime soon. Maybe if we ever win the lottery. :)
It's a great gun and I think if you have the chance to shoot it you'll see some of the practical benefits, but it is hilariously expensive for sure. I will say though it makes things easier that feel like they shouldn't be.
I have a mark 23 and aac 45m. You won’t regret it. Long mode I can hear the shells hitting the ground over the blast. Short config not as quiet but more compact. Tried obsidian but AAC for the win.
No, it's not for everyone. Your needs and wants are different from others. No big deal. If you want a great gun for half the price, get a USP "Elite" in .45. Longer bbl (6.1" compared with "5.9" for the Mk 23, making the Elite the longest barreled pistol in the HK inventory..!), and most of the great features of the Mk 23 are there...!!
Here’s a question: Given the durability, reliability, and service life of my HK45, is the MK23 still markedly more durable? I’m very tempted to get one because I think they’re just an iconic and badass gun, plus they’re legal for deer hunting here, but I’m also extremely confident with my basic HK45. Is the MK23 worth $2,000 if I already have an HK45?
That is going to be up to you for sure. I think the HK45 or HK45T is a much more practical, useable, and much more size efficient vs the MARK23. But the MARK23 is bomb proof. Also amazing suppressed. They have shot up in price so I'm glad I have mine. I'm not sure if I would buy it with today's prices. I paid 300 less.
I think so, yes. If for no other reason than the darn thing is rugged as hell and built to carry it's owner into the mouth of hell and back - and survive in the process. By the way: for those of you who aren't "enamored" of the Mk 23's "limited, 12-round" magazine capacity, HK Parts offers 17-round (12-rounders with longer springs & "+5" bottoms) magazines meant specifically for the Mk 23. They work wonderfully..!! I added some rubber bottoms to them as the bottoms they're using are aluminum. You also get your choice of bottom colors: red, blue, nat. silver, and black. Yes, they're not cheap: $120 each, but well worth the money, I think. I carry in a vertical shoulder rig with a 12-rounder under my left arm, and a pair of 17-rounders under my right side, along with a S&W Model 49 Bodyguard .38spcl revolver in my coat pocket for a backup, if needed. 110-gr, .38spcl "+P+" hp (the so-called "FBI load") loads in it, and along with a couple extra 5-shot speed loaders.
@@navyman8903 $300 less is not "much" of a reduction when you're talking about what is essentially a "$2,500 gun". A used one can be had for your value - if you can afford a "$2,200 Mk 23", you can afford a $2,500 gun. Just sayin'...!
NAVYMAN I need your help cause I’m freaking out I went to the range today got home and cleaned my 23 and during cleaning I noticed the roll pin in the recoil spring assembly had walked out a little I tapped it back in (need a punch) but is this normal could it walk completely out during normal operation and jam up ?
@@Catgat37 I went to the range again couple months ago had no issues I think this happened because I thought it was a good idea to oil the recoil spring assembly after cleaning it I won’t do that again but so far it doesn’t appear to have moved anymore from the last time I smacked it it back in
I’d look at mk23 holsters made for the airsoft community. You can buy one of those and use it and I’d bet it would work fine while being more updated and 4x cheaper then a mk23 holster made 40 years ago.
Christian Dorsey I’m confident they would. Airsoft guns are replicas designed to the same specifications of their real gun counterparts. Which means the real Mk23 should fit fine in a airsoft holster. Quality of the holster should be fine as well, I would not expect it to fall apart. You could also look into getting a custom holster made. Like those plastic ones that are pre cut to fit just your mk23. You can find this for the airsoft community as well the real life mk23 community I’m sure.
100% correct in your statement. The USP45T is an awesome gun. One of the best out there. The Mark23 is in a league of its own. Don't get the Tirant! It was my first can and I wouldn't buy it again. And you're not really going to run it in a "short" configuration. It gets louder and you still can't get it in a holster unless you use one of those "look at me" suppressor holsters. I like the Octane because it's a more durable can and easy to clean. I wouldn't get caught up on which one is quieter either. Once you start shooting suppressed, the gun will get so damn dirty you'll think twice once you realize you have to clean the can and pistol. Forget shooting wet, you end up looking like coal miner. I still shoot my HKs suppressed but only about 1/3 of the time.
That's good info, the coal miner thing is relatable and I completely understand what you're saying. I shot the Octane on the HK45 and it shot well, in that tale of 2 HK45's video. I was going to run it in the short configuration on the MARK 23 but you might be right and I may never run it like that. We'll see. I'm going to see if they'll let me run their Octane 45 on my MARK 23 to give it a run.
@@navyman8903 The Tirant is lighter, but not light enough to make a huge difference. The Octane has a cheaper 3-lug adapter. They also have the ASR mounts. I have a few 300BO guns that I use a 9mm Octane when shooting subsonic BO. It's the lightest rifle can setup and works great. I haven't used the Deadair cans but have heard really good things about them. I think those are the ones that will actually work with suppressor mounts from a few different companies.
Also, don't discount the USP "Elite", as well. LONG barrel (6.1" compared to 5.9" for the Mk 23), making the USP "Elite" "THE" longest barreled pistol in the HK lineup..! And, most of the great features of the USP and the Mk 23 are still there, as well. Remember, a lot of folks are under the impression that the USP pistols have "plastic" triggers - they don't - they're steel, but covered with a polymer coating, so they give you the impression that they're plastic triggers, but in reality, they're not.
Acquisition of sight alignment prior to light activation. You want to be as ready as possible before exposing your position. It's also situationally based.
The irons have channels that are pre-sized for Trijicon vials. So if you send them to a gunsmith and there are a few out there who do this work specifically. Then you can have it done. I would buy spare sights and get those done, then send the originals in about 5 years after so you can rotate them out and have immediate spares.
Good to see Jessica out strutting again. I was thinking maybe you two had a falling out. I have the same H&K MK 23. I love it . It fits My big meat hooks to a "T". Up here in Canada we aren't allowed more than 10 rds and unable to carry in any form. Some very rare exceptions.And absolutely no cans. Damn bastards. I seem to be able to shoot the MK 23 very well, not much recoil or muzzle flip. I do think that is because it fits my hands so well. It only sees 230 grn FMJ, Pretty much all we can get here. I chose this gun for H&K reliability and the fact it is an over built tank that will not fail. So far I have been consistent at 50 yds and getting better at 100 yds. 7,15. 20 yrds, well you know how it eliminates targets at those yards. It made me love H&K so much as soon as I picked up the H&K 45 full size, well it was almost like it it was custom molded for my hand, and it shoots so well. And that's your fault after seeing your vid on it. THANKS. (Keep them coming) Well when CHAOS takes over and all the cops and armies have gone to protect there families These 2 weapons will be with me. Till then just having some fun in the great white North. Love your vids DD great sense of humor, great info THANKS AGAIN.
Dave N, look into getting the Hornady "Critical Defense" load in .45ACP. It's not considered a hollow point round as the bullet "nose cavity" is filled up with a special "gel" compound that causes the bullet to expand after it hits. Great stuff..!! Gun owners in states like New Jersey, etc, can legally own & carry it as it's not considered a hollow point round, but it performs just like a hollow point bullet. Available in a host of calibers. It was originally invented for use in "blue states" (demoncratically-controlled) that had outlawed those "nasty, Nazi hollow point bullets" as these rounds from Hornady are not considered h/p ammo..!! Dunno if that'll help Canadians or not, but good luck..!!
Speaking from some experience i love my mk23 especially suppressed granted i wish i had a knights can but for now the Aac ti rant 45 is what i have. It works well and i really don't notice any blowback...the usp 45 on the other hand has a little bit. Do have a question tho who does the nightsights for mk23 ?
Great video. Word of advice, get the Knights Armament MK23 suppressor for it. I've had my Mark 23 about 2 years now and have a SilencerCo Octane 45, and while it's a good can, I regret not getting the KAC MK23.
Tooltech can do some custom irons for you. be aware, they are on the slow side of things. Double any estimated time of service. The HK Parts compensator is awesome toy, but they're asking too much for it (granted, it is a $2000 gun) Ultimately, the mounting system is the problem you'll run into with the light. Everyone's mount is just way to bulky and makes every modern light sit too far forward and too low....and then you'll have find trying to find a holster for it. Try shooting some 45 Super through the gun. It is shockingly pleasant to shoot. If you're able to, I would get the KAC can. The can is still holds it's own with the modern one. Besides, you can use it as a nightstick if need be. I'm waiting for my stamp for mine. It's also the only can HK will warranty with it. Others are the Osprey (oldie but goodie). If you're wanting a modern can, get the Obsidian 45. Great sound suppression, great durability, and it's user serviceable! People love making fun of the gun, until you put it right next to a 1911.While you get a bit of thickness, you get a lot more in capacity. Unfortunately, the size of this gun prevents it from everyday use. The mark 23 is one of the few guns that everyone ends up shooting better with.
Hey man, hope you see this. I just picked up a new Mk23 today. And my safety is incredibly hard to flip on, I have to use two hands. Easy to flip off though. Does this break in over time? Strangely, if I hold the hammer back with my thumb, past where it naturally locks back... the safety is very easy to flip on and off
You need to have the gun looked at by a gunsmith who knows HK firearms. I own three of these, and none of them has or has ever had that problem. If the gun is new & still under warranty, let HK know about it..!!
I guess for me this gun isn't hard to shoot better then any of my other 45acp guns maybe because I am a different generation we either shot 9mm or 45 acp I feel this gun is softer shooting then my 1911 that is for sure.
these don't recoil heavy because of the mass, they recoil and muzzle flip more than others because of the whole action (including spring) being setup to fire suppressed .45 Super....there must be somebody out there making lighter spring setups for normal .45ACP
Out of production - they had a lot of problems with accuracy upon firing. I went with the Matchweight steel compensator - yeah, it adds 12oz (3/4 of a pound...!!) to j front of the gun (now, it really does become "a beast"..!!) , but, it also allows you to rapid fire 230gr, +P ammunition - and that's great..!!
Its really too bad manufacturers aren't bringing such firearms to market at sensible prices as they would sell 1000x more. This gun probably cost a very little more to make than any other HK hammer fired product.
H&K has always had that "elitist" attitude with the civilian market. Upside is that you get a gun that you can buy that'll work out of the box and you can buy any new product from them that won't have issues at the start. I'm sure there is a high markup on the gun, but it truly is an awesome gun to shoot.
Well if you compare the usp series vs the Mk23, you'll see more works gone into the 23. I'd wager that while the usp will last you a lifetime, the Mk23 will last you 2 lifetimes.
@@johngalt234 6,000 rounds without cleaning until jamming.. over 30,000 rounds until the gun had started breaking down... can hit a target at 180 yards 2 out of 4 times... as I said they are similar in class but if I had to chose... mind you I'm with Navy Special Warfare Air Rescue currently... I would chose the Mk23.. like I said similar weapons but I trust the Mk23 personally on its reliable and capabilities in a combative scenario.
@@brandoncliff5653 I reiterate: _"Prove how the USP is not as reliable or durable without citing just the Mark 23's record on the subject."_ Is the USP not capable of going "6,000 rounds without cleaning until jamming" or of going "30,000 rounds until" parts failure?
@@johngalt234 as far as I know yes it can't handle such extensive testing... I've used both more than I can count... The Mk23 has not once jammed on me while the USP has proved to be a great weapon but I have had many issues with it as well. As I stated civilian wise yeah buy the USP but as a spec war veteran I choose the MK 23... simple answer.
I always shoot to the left with my mk23 at 25 yards. With my other guns it doesn't happen. I think it's my trigger finger. Anyone is having trouble with the MK23 ?
Mine shoots to the left too. The only pistol I've had this happen with. Try switching to a "crush grip" and see what happens. Seemed to fix my issue. I'm buying a rubber grip for it to see if I can stick with a thumbs forward grip.
Listen to this guy's voice! He sounds so much like David Hayter, who plays Solid Snake in Metal Gear! Any relation?? I bet if he growled a little, he'd do a great Snake voice.
I like the dead air, I will say though I am nervous about the whole wipe ruling thing. I'm not sure what that means for the can itself. I also don't understand why they're doing what they're doing with that decision.
The gun that made me subscribe to your channel and then turn around and buy one. I blame you for this Dolphin lol
It's a great gun to have for sure, I am very happy I have one.
I love the mk23 so much I have 3 of them. Ti-rant 45 is really nice on them. I'am waiting on the KAC can they were made for each other. you really were shooting this gun like a pro keep up the great videos .
Thanks for the feedback, and I plan to keep running it. You'll see even more of it once I get the can.
Funny. I have three of them, as well..! One to carry, one in the safe as a spare, and one, well, because I love these guns..!! :-)
@@johnyoungs7453still wont out do a glock 21 any gen
If the Mk23 was good enough to get Snake through the Shadow Moses incident, then it's good enough for you and me. 😉
MERICA!
@@navyman8903 hk is a german company
@@lordgrey3749 snake is a US operative
Out of all of the handguns that I own, I can honestly say that this is my favorite handgun... a classic that I keep going back to. This gun runs amazing suppressed as well. Currently running the rugged suppressors obsidian 45 and it really does level the gun out so much to where hitting 3 inch hanging AR500 steel targets are a breeze and most importantly.... consistent target connection.
Well i can't help you decide on a suppressor, but i do know that ill be getting whatever you go with for my mark 23 as well as I've learned so far that you have excellent taste in nor just firearms but accessories as well. Thank you for the videos keep up the great work buddy, and welcome to Texas from an East Texan.
We'll have to meet up when I get back there. I got stationed out of state, but I'm marking the calendar for my return. When I visit the inlaws and friends I'll let you know, maybe we can go shooting.
@@navyman8903 Yea man i love to shoot, not sure where your inlaws and friends live but i live in Henderson, nearest range for me is in a city named Longview to give you an idea.
I have the Mk23 little brother the HK USP EXPERT 45 I would love to see these together to compare sizes that would be interesting. I think my expert model is really practical I just wish people made more accessories like holsters I had one made for my duty rig. I also wish HK would make a Jetfunnel for it with higher capacity 45acp mags.
amen to that
Todd, HK Parts makes a 17-round, steel magazine for the Mk 23. It is the German HK 12-rounder with a "+5 bottom" made specifically for the Mk 23. $120 each - expensive, yes, but well worth it, in my opinion..!!
I have been using SolumTool + 3 baseplate spring kits for 15rnds but will check those out. Now I hate Promag but my friend took their 20rnd mag replaced the follower with a HK one and has excellent success no issues yet he has around 500rnds down range. I might get one just to piss off the libs.
Todd, You might check with HK Parts Store. They make 17-round, "extended", ultra-high-capacity, .45 ACP magazines for the Mark 23. Love 'em to death - they work extremely well. I glued little rubber "feet" on the aluminum bottoms (with "gorilla glue") to protect them, should I ever drop the mag onto a hard surface (concrete, etc), especially when loaded.
Todd, the only real "external" difference is the Mk 23 has a 1" longer barrel & slide. Internally, all the parts in a Mk 23 are bigger, thicker, longer, "beefier", etc. when compared to any of the other HK pistols chambered in .45ACP.
Jessica rabbit is exactly what this guns name is! Nailed iiiiiittt! Solely because of your channel, I now need every h&k being made😩when my fiance finds put I spent over a grand on a hand gun, I'm pointing her in your direction 😃🫵
I love my mk 12 I bought it over the weekend at a gunshop.
One of my grail guns. Thanks for the update.
IT was mine for sure and when I got a shot at one, I jumped on it. Great gun and well worth the price of admission after shooting it this much. At this point I've got more rounds through it than dollars spent on it. It feels good.
I preferred the USP45T over the MK23. That is likely because I am poor, and HK hates me.
The USPT 45 is still a badass gun and has been used by a lot of badass dudes.
Save your nickels & dimes. You'll get one soon enough..!! :-)
i swear out of all the youtubers you cost me the most money God Bless
Glad I could help good sir!!!
Hallefuckinglujah, praise be to John Moses Browning!!!
I've always wanted one of these with the stock kit...would be a badass "truck gun".
This was my primary weapon when I had to infiltrate a base in Alaska that had been taken over by some former spec ops guys. They were planning to launch a mobile nuclear weapon delivery platform. It was pretty crazy stuff, but, thankfully, my trusty HK never let me down.
I found this gun in the back of a truck once.
TMHonfire102 Lol, please tell us what happened after
In the middle of a bitter cold blizzard at a top secret base in Alaska.
Was it YOUR TRUCK OR, YOUR GUN..??
Dude you pushed me the rest of the way over the edge in getting my MK23. I'd like a Osprey 45 for it. In the meantime the night sight as you mentioned would be great.
tooltechgunsight.com/product/hk-mark-23/
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I've seen this before, just the drilling part made me kind of hesitant. Do they just install regular trijicon tritium lamps? If there was an hd option, that would be titts.
The price makes me gag, especially compared to USP, yet I still want a Mark 23.
I carry mine with an HK Parts 17-round magazine, and a spare 17-rounder. HK Parts is also close to coming out with their "2nd gen." compensator. ToolTech Gunsight of Oxford, Michigan, installs custom Tritium night sights on the Mk 23. I carry a Mk 23 - concealed - with no problem. Remember, an empty Mk 23 weighs in at 39 oz. An empty 1911 weighs in at 42 oz. Doesn't seem so "huge" now, does it..??
Getting my Mark 23 soon. Replacing my USP CT 45 with it. Can wait. I have a Ti-Rant 45. Original model...killer quiet bro.
Always wanted a mk23 but after getting the standard usp45 and the tactical model. Hard to justify
I get that completely. I feel a lot faster with the USP 45, but the MARK 23 is just a house with a can on it. I'm eager to try it with a can and a surefire X300UB. Should keep it hyper flat with 230gr. IT shoots really smooth, but a lot of reciprocating mass. The USP45T is just easier to use overall. But I'm happy I bought the MARK 23 when I did.
@@navyman8903 can’t blame you there man. Absolutely incredible gun!
Reker.A, I don't blame you. The USP series are just fine. Look into the USP "Elite" pistol in .45. A LONG barreled gun (6.1" compared to 5.9" with the Mk 23), with a lot of the features of both the Mk 23 as well as the USP "Tactical .45", but at half the cost. An excellent choice, I think..!!
You still shoot the Mark 23? The urge for me to get one is back, and I’m not sure if I can resist the once in stock at my LGS.
Yup. I still have it and shoot it when I can.
Is there a good option for a suppressor with a tilting barrel buffer compensated suppressor that isn’t the KAC? I don’t want to shell out that much cash for old technology despite the cool appearance and the continuity of the HK warranty
Personally I'm going with a Rugged Obsidian 45.
Man! I just told myself that I wasn't going to buy any more toys... until I saw this video and it reminded me of my wishlist. BTW, I'm getting this gun just to run it in 3 Guns... watch me.
I can't wait to see it if you do.
I had 2 at one point. Loved it at the time for my "Apocalypse pistol". But finally admitted that there are better guns for that, so I sold it and used funds for a B&T USW-A1 that i sbrd. love it
Nowadays, it'd be hard to pass up a Glock 19. Everyone has one. Magazines (along with the 17 ) are literally everywhere. Spare parts are extremely easy to obtain.
However, the Mark 23 is a gun that will never fail you. Worse comes to worse, the KAC can can be used as a baton
@@rustyshackleford17 Rusty, keep in mind one thing about Glocks in general: True, nobody "plans" on having their gun snatched away from them in a struggle. But, it can happen. Are you aware of the fully documented fact that just over 80% of the law enforcement officers annually, who have ended up getting shot with their own guns, were carrying Glocks..? The Glock has no "proprietary" safety, like a 1911. That little "trigger within the trigger" thingy is a "passive" safety - designed to prevent the gun from firing should it ever be dropped on it's muzzle. I'm 69 years old, and while I certainly don't plan on having my gun grabbed away from me in a struggle, I'm also not so stupid as to think "That could never happen to me..!" The point being (and this is EXACTLY why I will never own or carry a Glock), is that if someone ever gets that gun away from you & decides to shoot you with it (assuming there's a round chambered to begin with), you are well and truly fucked...!! A well-known gun writer, as well as being both a field and courtroom expert on these matters, Massad Ayoob, many years ago, conducted a "field experiment" wherein he took a fair number of folks who had never handled a pistol before, sat them down, and handed each person an unloaded 1911 that had it's hammer cocked and it's slide safety placed "on". Each person was asked to figure out how to depress the trigger and "fire" the gun. It took the average person 25 seconds to figure out how to deactivate the safety and drop the hammer..! That's plenty of time to seek cover, pull out a backup gun, or both. I carry my HK Mk 23 "cocked & locked". I also carry a 5-shot S&W Model 49 Bodyguard revolver in a right side jacket pocket holster, and loaded with .38Spcl, 110-gr.+P+, h/p rounds. I'm just giving you this little bit of insight merely as "food for thought"..!
Do you think it'll run in the harsh arctic environment of Shadow Moses?
The Mk. 23 is one of the few H&K pistols that I love but have no desire to ever pay for or feed. Hilariously big, a questionable purchase at best, but I still love it and appreciate the engineering behind it. It's one of those classic Video Game / Movie Guns that just makes you feel good whenever you see it.
Still no desire to pay for one anytime soon. Maybe if we ever win the lottery. :)
It's a great gun and I think if you have the chance to shoot it you'll see some of the practical benefits, but it is hilariously expensive for sure. I will say though it makes things easier that feel like they shouldn't be.
Thanks for the video man. Good stuff on the 23.
Thanks I appreciate it.
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I have a mark 23 and aac 45m. You won’t regret it. Long mode I can hear the shells hitting the ground over the blast. Short config not as quiet but more compact. Tried obsidian but AAC for the win.
I enjoyed mine while I had it. Cool gun, definite head turner but I honestly don’t miss it. Maybe there’s something wrong with me.
Most definitely brother
No, it's not for everyone. Your needs and wants are different from others. No big deal. If you want a great gun for half the price, get a USP "Elite" in .45. Longer bbl (6.1" compared with "5.9" for the Mk 23, making the Elite the longest barreled pistol in the HK inventory..!), and most of the great features of the Mk 23 are there...!!
Is that Mr. Silver from cobra kai shooting your mark 23?
Here’s a question: Given the durability, reliability, and service life of my HK45, is the MK23 still markedly more durable? I’m very tempted to get one because I think they’re just an iconic and badass gun, plus they’re legal for deer hunting here, but I’m also extremely confident with my basic HK45.
Is the MK23 worth $2,000 if I already have an HK45?
That is going to be up to you for sure. I think the HK45 or HK45T is a much more practical, useable, and much more size efficient vs the MARK23. But the MARK23 is bomb proof. Also amazing suppressed. They have shot up in price so I'm glad I have mine. I'm not sure if I would buy it with today's prices. I paid 300 less.
Fair enough, thanks man. 👍
I think so, yes. If for no other reason than the darn thing is rugged as hell and built to carry it's owner into the mouth of hell and back - and survive in the process. By the way: for those of you who aren't "enamored" of the Mk 23's "limited, 12-round" magazine capacity, HK Parts offers 17-round (12-rounders with longer springs & "+5" bottoms) magazines meant specifically for the Mk 23. They work wonderfully..!! I added some rubber bottoms to them as the bottoms they're using are aluminum. You also get your choice of bottom colors: red, blue, nat. silver, and black. Yes, they're not cheap: $120 each, but well worth the money, I think. I carry in a vertical shoulder rig with a 12-rounder under my left arm, and a pair of 17-rounders under my right side, along with a S&W Model 49 Bodyguard .38spcl revolver in my coat pocket for a backup, if needed. 110-gr, .38spcl "+P+" hp (the so-called "FBI load") loads in it, and along with a couple extra 5-shot speed loaders.
@@navyman8903 $300 less is not "much" of a reduction when you're talking about what is essentially a "$2,500 gun". A used one can be had for your value - if you can afford a "$2,200 Mk 23", you can afford a $2,500 gun. Just sayin'...!
NAVYMAN I need your help cause I’m freaking out I went to the range today got home and cleaned my 23 and during cleaning I noticed the roll pin in the recoil spring assembly had walked out a little I tapped it back in (need a punch) but is this normal could it walk completely out during normal operation and jam up ?
I'm not sure honestly. Keep an eye on it, I'll look at mine in the morning and get back to you.
@@navyman8903 thank you
Update???
@@Catgat37 I went to the range again couple months ago had no issues I think this happened because I thought it was a good idea to oil the recoil spring assembly after cleaning it I won’t do that again but so far it doesn’t appear to have moved anymore from the last time I smacked it it back in
I love your videos! Especially the vids about the HK MARK 23! Getting one soon! Can you recommend any holsters for the HK MARK 23?
I’d look at mk23 holsters made for the airsoft community. You can buy one of those and use it and I’d bet it would work fine while being more updated and 4x cheaper then a mk23 holster made 40 years ago.
Antonio Glascoe Would those holsters work well with a real HK MARK 23?
Christian Dorsey I’m confident they would. Airsoft guns are replicas designed to the same specifications of their real gun counterparts. Which means the real Mk23 should fit fine in a airsoft holster. Quality of the holster should be fine as well, I would not expect it to fall apart. You could also look into getting a custom holster made. Like those plastic ones that are pre cut to fit just your mk23. You can find this for the airsoft community as well the real life mk23 community I’m sure.
I have a airsoft soft leg holster and a molded one for the belt. Both work like a charm.
100% correct in your statement. The USP45T is an awesome gun. One of the best out there. The Mark23 is in a league of its own.
Don't get the Tirant! It was my first can and I wouldn't buy it again. And you're not really going to run it in a "short" configuration. It gets louder and you still can't get it in a holster unless you use one of those "look at me" suppressor holsters. I like the Octane because it's a more durable can and easy to clean. I wouldn't get caught up on which one is quieter either. Once you start shooting suppressed, the gun will get so damn dirty you'll think twice once you realize you have to clean the can and pistol. Forget shooting wet, you end up looking like coal miner. I still shoot my HKs suppressed but only about 1/3 of the time.
That's good info, the coal miner thing is relatable and I completely understand what you're saying. I shot the Octane on the HK45 and it shot well, in that tale of 2 HK45's video. I was going to run it in the short configuration on the MARK 23 but you might be right and I may never run it like that. We'll see. I'm going to see if they'll let me run their Octane 45 on my MARK 23 to give it a run.
Holy shit, just when I was wondering what it might sound like look what dropped into my recommended videos! ruclips.net/video/1Kl8BciSY-8/видео.html
@@navyman8903 The Tirant is lighter, but not light enough to make a huge difference. The Octane has a cheaper 3-lug adapter. They also have the ASR mounts. I have a few 300BO guns that I use a 9mm Octane when shooting subsonic BO. It's the lightest rifle can setup and works great.
I haven't used the Deadair cans but have heard really good things about them. I think those are the ones that will actually work with suppressor mounts from a few different companies.
Also, don't discount the USP "Elite", as well. LONG barrel (6.1" compared to 5.9" for the Mk 23), making the USP "Elite" "THE" longest barreled pistol in the HK lineup..! And, most of the great features of the USP and the Mk 23 are still there, as well. Remember, a lot of folks are under the impression that the USP pistols have "plastic" triggers - they don't - they're steel, but covered with a polymer coating, so they give you the impression that they're plastic triggers, but in reality, they're not.
In a world full of $3,000 1911’s the mark 23 is a bargain
Man I need one of these, this and an MR762/308 would be the tits. Little know fact, USP originally stood for United States Pistol. No lie.
Why do you want night sights when you also want a light? As soon as you activate the light the night sights get washed out every time.
Acquisition of sight alignment prior to light activation. You want to be as ready as possible before exposing your position. It's also situationally based.
Please elaborate on the predrilled tritium vial sight.
The irons have channels that are pre-sized for Trijicon vials. So if you send them to a gunsmith and there are a few out there who do this work specifically. Then you can have it done. I would buy spare sights and get those done, then send the originals in about 5 years after so you can rotate them out and have immediate spares.
@@navyman8903 very interesting. I've seen tooltech night sights but hardly call their pricing a good deal.
If you like the HK pistol family then you need the HK Mk23s little brother the HK USP Expert in 45acp or 9mm great gun as well !
Do you have videos on replacing Mark 23 parts?
No, I haven't had to yet honestly. I also don't know my way around the MARK 23 internally like I do the other HK pistols.
DevilDolphin oh i see, thanks though.
Also, the safety only works for single action right?
Just trying to make sure mine is not broken lmao
@@FancyGothicKnight88 yes only if the hammer is cocked
The current price is $2,500 and I'm trying to decide if it's really worth that. I'm thinking probably not.
By the way, Great Channel!
Good to see Jessica out strutting again. I was thinking maybe you two had a falling out. I have the same H&K MK 23. I love it . It fits My big meat hooks to a "T". Up here in Canada we aren't allowed more than 10 rds and unable to carry in any form. Some very rare exceptions.And absolutely no cans. Damn bastards. I seem to be able to shoot the MK 23 very well, not much recoil or muzzle flip. I do think that is because it fits my hands so well. It only sees 230 grn FMJ, Pretty much all we can get here. I chose this gun for H&K reliability and the fact it is an over built tank that will not fail. So far I have been consistent at 50 yds and getting better at 100 yds. 7,15. 20 yrds, well you know how it eliminates targets at those yards. It made me love H&K so much as soon as I picked up the H&K 45 full size, well it was almost like it it was custom molded for my hand, and it shoots so well. And that's your fault after seeing your vid on it. THANKS. (Keep them coming) Well when CHAOS takes over and all the cops and armies have gone to protect there families These 2 weapons will be with me. Till then just having some fun in the great white North. Love your vids DD great sense of humor, great info THANKS AGAIN.
Dave N, look into getting the Hornady "Critical Defense" load in .45ACP. It's not considered a hollow point round as the bullet "nose cavity" is filled up with a special "gel" compound that causes the bullet to expand after it hits. Great stuff..!! Gun owners in states like New Jersey, etc, can legally own & carry it as it's not considered a hollow point round, but it performs just like a hollow point bullet. Available in a host of calibers. It was originally invented for use in "blue states" (demoncratically-controlled) that had outlawed those "nasty, Nazi hollow point bullets" as these rounds from Hornady are not considered h/p ammo..!! Dunno if that'll help Canadians or not, but good luck..!!
Speaking from some experience i love my mk23 especially suppressed granted i wish i had a knights can but for now the Aac ti rant 45 is what i have. It works well and i really don't notice any blowback...the usp 45 on the other hand has a little bit. Do have a question tho who does the nightsights for mk23 ?
tooltechgunsight.com/product/hk-mark-23/
Also thanks for the feedback.
No problem at all man , also thanks
You should really look into Gator's rail group buy if you haven't already. I'm loving mine.
IS that the facebook group buy?
@@navyman8903 HKpro buy, may also be on facebook.
I'd love to see a video for night sights you mentioned, the operators manual says they have them but they told me it was a misprint when I called hk
Great video. Word of advice, get the Knights Armament MK23 suppressor for it.
I've had my Mark 23 about 2 years now and have a SilencerCo Octane 45, and while it's a good can, I regret not getting the KAC MK23.
You were going to buy three more of these…
Tooltech can do some custom irons for you. be aware, they are on the slow side of things. Double any estimated time of service.
The HK Parts compensator is awesome toy, but they're asking too much for it (granted, it is a $2000 gun)
Ultimately, the mounting system is the problem you'll run into with the light. Everyone's mount is just way to bulky and makes every modern light sit too far forward and too low....and then you'll have find trying to find a holster for it.
Try shooting some 45 Super through the gun. It is shockingly pleasant to shoot.
If you're able to, I would get the KAC can. The can is still holds it's own with the modern one. Besides, you can use it as a nightstick if need be. I'm waiting for my stamp for mine. It's also the only can HK will warranty with it. Others are the Osprey (oldie but goodie). If you're wanting a modern can, get the Obsidian 45. Great sound suppression, great durability, and it's user serviceable!
People love making fun of the gun, until you put it right next to a 1911.While you get a bit of thickness, you get a lot more in capacity. Unfortunately, the size of this gun prevents it from everyday use. The mark 23 is one of the few guns that everyone ends up shooting better with.
Hey man, hope you see this. I just picked up a new Mk23 today. And my safety is incredibly hard to flip on, I have to use two hands. Easy to flip off though. Does this break in over time?
Strangely, if I hold the hammer back with my thumb, past where it naturally locks back... the safety is very easy to flip on and off
You need to have the gun looked at by a gunsmith who knows HK firearms. I own three of these, and none of them has or has ever had that problem. If the gun is new & still under warranty, let HK know about it..!!
At least your not trying to justify a Kel Tec purchase, i think the Mark 23 is kinda neat.
I guess for me this gun isn't hard to shoot better then any of my other 45acp guns maybe because I am a different generation we either shot 9mm or 45 acp I feel this gun is softer shooting then my 1911 that is for sure.
That's because of the dual-spring, recoil-reducing aspect of the recoil spring assembly as used in the Mk 23.
You’ve got pretty good taste for a squid 🦑
Thanks, I appreciate it.
Bought new as a collector's item, it has become my home defense gun.
Superb gun for that useage, for sure..!!
Woah woah. Are you saying my Makarov isn't practical?! Those dick grips are put to good use every single day, sir.
these don't recoil heavy because of the mass, they recoil and muzzle flip more than others because of the whole action (including spring) being setup to fire suppressed .45 Super....there must be somebody out there making lighter spring setups for normal .45ACP
Heck yeah! The miss and the make up! Keep up the good work.
Where is the mk23 can?
Im about to by the compensator for.the mark23 by hkparts.net.It.looks so.sweeet
It looks and performs great from what I've seen. Let me know how you like it.
Out of production - they had a lot of problems with accuracy upon firing. I went with the Matchweight steel compensator - yeah, it adds 12oz (3/4 of a pound...!!) to j front of the gun (now, it really does become "a beast"..!!) , but, it also allows you to rapid fire 230gr, +P ammunition - and that's great..!!
Its really too bad manufacturers aren't bringing such firearms to market at sensible prices as they would sell 1000x more. This gun probably cost a very little more to make than any other HK hammer fired product.
H&K has always had that "elitist" attitude with the civilian market. Upside is that you get a gun that you can buy that'll work out of the box and you can buy any new product from them that won't have issues at the start. I'm sure there is a high markup on the gun, but it truly is an awesome gun to shoot.
Well if you compare the usp series vs the Mk23, you'll see more works gone into the 23. I'd wager that while the usp will last you a lifetime, the Mk23 will last you 2 lifetimes.
Is the price worth it? No, you can get the USP (which is very similar) for half the price.
It is similar but not close to reliability and endurance.. but I guess for average buyer yes you may be right
@@brandoncliff5653 Prove how the USP is not as reliable or durable without citing just the Mark 23's record on the subject.
@@johngalt234 6,000 rounds without cleaning until jamming.. over 30,000 rounds until the gun had started breaking down... can hit a target at 180 yards 2 out of 4 times... as I said they are similar in class but if I had to chose... mind you I'm with Navy Special Warfare Air Rescue currently... I would chose the Mk23.. like I said similar weapons but I trust the Mk23 personally on its reliable and capabilities in a combative scenario.
@@brandoncliff5653 I reiterate: _"Prove how the USP is not as reliable or durable without citing just the Mark 23's record on the subject."_ Is the USP not capable of going "6,000 rounds without cleaning until jamming" or of going "30,000 rounds until" parts failure?
@@johngalt234 as far as I know yes it can't handle such extensive testing... I've used both more than I can count... The Mk23 has not once jammed on me while the USP has proved to be a great weapon but I have had many issues with it as well. As I stated civilian wise yeah buy the USP but as a spec war veteran I choose the MK 23... simple answer.
I always shoot to the left with my mk23 at 25 yards. With my other guns it doesn't happen. I think it's my trigger finger. Anyone is having trouble with the MK23 ?
Mine shoots to the left too. The only pistol I've had this happen with.
Try switching to a "crush grip" and see what happens. Seemed to fix my issue.
I'm buying a rubber grip for it to see if I can stick with a thumbs forward grip.
Listen to this guy's voice! He sounds so much like David Hayter, who plays Solid Snake in Metal Gear!
Any relation?? I bet if he growled a little, he'd do a great Snake voice.
1600-1800$!!!!! More like 2000$-3000$!
Dude, dead air. Acc isn't what they used to be.
I like the dead air, I will say though I am nervous about the whole wipe ruling thing. I'm not sure what that means for the can itself. I also don't understand why they're doing what they're doing with that decision.
@@navyman8903 dead air or rugged obsidian
i prefer the FNX 45 tactical... more features, more rounds, better controls..
Not even on the same level.
@@jackmarston2515 ya, the fnx 45 tac is far superior in literally every measurable way haha.