H&K Mk23 SOCOM .45 Development
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The H&K Mk 23 pistol was developed in the 1990s for the US Special Operations Command and US Navy. The goal was to produce an "offensive handgun" that could serve as a primary armament for a special forces operator as well as a backup arm. It was required to be no more than 12 inches long, fit a suppressor and aiming module with laser and illumination options in both visible and IR spectrum, have at least 10-round magazines, chamber .45 ACP (specifically a 185gr +P loading), and pass a 30,000 round endurance test.
Only two companies were able to supply acceptable initial pistols; H&K and Colt. The Colt pistol failed to pass the 1st phase testing. H&K presented a gun based on the recently-developed USP design, was ultimately chosen as the project winner; adopted as the Mk 23 pistol in 1996. The testing this pistol went through during development is really quite remarkable.
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If you need to replace that suppressor there’s one in the tank hangar in the 1st floor storage room.
I think there is also another one in the 1st floor of Strut f warehouse, near a vent
Wow
hahahahah
Do you choke out the sleeping guard, or do you just run past him though?
You need the code from the back of the CD case though...
SOCOM: "Here's a list of a bunch of screwball requirements"
HK: "Here's a pistol that meets every single one of them"
SOCOM: "What the hell are we going to do with this thing?"
Yep. That is exactly the reality. Oh well we want the Colt M45A1, great we got some, get rid of them now they upset me...
Ok, SIG Sauer made these P226 in a Mk25 now with this special finish to stop salt water corrosion. What? Just buy a Glock 19.
Ok so after all that I guess we're going to use Glock 19. Yay.
HK: Fight a guy with a revolver from FOXHOUND of course.
SOCOM: What?
HK: What?
@@spartanhawk7637 Trevanian in the Loo Sanction described an offensive pistol. A Colt single action Army. The ammo was a custom load 300 grain flat nose lead bullet. His boy had 2 of them.
It’s better than the stupid glock thing they started using
@@LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto The US military is basically a cat.
"That pistol you have is a SOCOM. It's a 45-caliber Offensive Handgun designed for the American Special Ops Command. With twelve rounds of 45 ACP's, it has outstanding stopping power. The SOCOM has a minimum service life averaging over 6,000 rounds, and has a five-round group capacity that extends within a 1.4-inch radius. It's a bit large, but the SOCOM is a gun you can trust. It also comes equipped with a laser aiming module. A suppressor can be attached to the SOCOM to silence gunshots. You should try to find one."
-Iroquis Pliskin. (Solid Snake)
“An offensive handgun” pretty sure the Zip22 already is offensive enough
Based
Not offensive to the same person
im actually not offended by either weapon
Gross
"No! Bad User! BAD!"
So you've covered the PSG1 & the FAMAS. Now the Mk23. Kept us waiting, huh...
Who wants to see Ian cover the Stinger?
He also covered the AN-94, which appeared in MGS2 (albeit only used by NPCs), and came back in MGS4 as a usable weapon (and to this day is still one of the best depictions of it in a videogame).
The Colt single action army has been done for sure but not sure about the chain gun, aside from that I think the entire mgs1 arsenal has been covered as far as guns are concerned.
Ian needs to review a pineapple. Or multiple pineapples.
Tactical cardboard box review.
A weapon to surpass metal gear...
Just like old times.
Dam u beat me to it
METAL GEAR?!?!
Kept you waiting huh
@@matthewgubbins8515 You're pretty good...
SOCOM: This gun needs to do everything.
H&K: You got it.
Everything except conceal it... unless you're Shaquille O'Neal
SOCOM: ...Why would you build this?
Hilarious...
Sounds like USA alright. Every soldier and the tools need to be do all. Why don't America make a new program to train one man army instead. 10 years minimum of intense and hardcore training including every survival and fieldcraft skills up to piloting nearly every aircraft they can find. Out of many candidates, only one can become a one man army.
Precision german engineering working optimally
“30,000 rounds with no parts failures.”
HK: We do it right, there is no other way.
Hrrnnngh Ian I'm trying to sneak around but the sound of my slide cycling keeps alerting the guards!
quick, I need a cardboard box
Just hold the slide or buy the non-blowback version lol
SSSNNNNNNAAAAAKKKKEEEEEEEE!!!!! NOO!!!!!
there was a meme quote by the legend himself where he said something about his butt crack creeking lmao
"!"
To quote Boris the Bullet Dodger, "Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it does not work, you can always hit him with it."
❤
ruclips.net/video/lRC1y1xhIkI/видео.html
@@MeatVision you mean Boris the sneaky fucking Russian.
These are only heavy (for a full sized service handgun) once the extra kg+ from the can and "sighting module" are added. Fucking giant pistol, yeah... but they shoot incredibly well. Don't have a SOCOM, but I have USP45T, and even with +p+, the recoil impulse and muzzle climb are what I consider mild, the buffer spring makes a major difference.
Trivia: Iirc, they're not only +p and +p+ rated, but can fire .45 Super (assuming one can *find* ammo), and in my experience, it'll eat it all w/o so much as a hiccup. Still overpriced, tho...
@@paulpolito2001 u get diagnosis ok
It's crazy that the Mk23 gets so much criticism for its size considering the engineering requirements of the contract. Imagine putting a long list of requirements on the design of a weapon that literally required it to basically be a tank and then going "nah, it's too big so it's impractical".
If the Mark23 wasn't HK and wasn't so expensive, I'd deem it probably the best infantry handgun you could give to an Army
It is big awkward and clunky but it does everything it was designed to do that gun will not fail you
Its clunky until your put in the hours kinda like every other weapon first time you pick it up
I had an Airsoft replica when I was 17 or so(in 1999 or 2000), shot a real one a few years later, and am finally planning on getting one. Breaking out the old Airsoft MK23, I don't find it much clunkier than my Beretta 92FS. It's got a higher bore axis, but I recall the shooting experience was very similar to a polymer-framed 9mm. In my eyes it's an incredible piece and I'm looking forward to some range time with one.
Well yeh, but that's why they made the USP, specifically because of the size, and they realized they could get almost identical results with a smaller print. And it basically is as good in practice
"It's a bit large, but the SOCOM is a gun you can trust" - Solid Snake
My dude 😎
I love the warning stickers on the laser module on the 'Phase 3' version... Like if someone's pointing it at you you're going to be like "hey man that's a class 3 laser, don't point that at my eyes" lol
Hahahaha underrated comment
Definitive!
That was because the sissies at the UN cried that using blinding lasers is war crime.
@@jackandersen1262 interesting take
I don't know anybody in US special forces (or maybe I do, can't really tell since they wear plain clothes) but if my buddies in the marines are any indication, they would be playing around with that laser all the time in their downtime so its probably good there is something on it that says when you're messing around with this laser with your buddies please try to to blind each other...
Solid Snake, Sam Fisher, Chris Redfield, Lara Croft.
Either all these characters know their good handguns or the Mk23 is blocky and easy to make as low polygon as possible on PS1 and PS2 era technology.
Chris Redfield used an M92F, and Lara Croft used USPs.
I think Sam Fisher is better known for his Five seveN, but Snake and Sam practically traded guns back and forth, since they both used the MK23 and the Five seveN, depending on the game.
I thought Sam Fisher used an fn five seven
The VSSE can't be wrong either.
The guys from Time Crisis, not the Belgian State Security Service.
Snake uses a baretta 9mm hushpuppy
You forgot raiden who used the SOCOM pistol
From metal gear solid 2 sons of liberty
"Okay well do 30.000 rounds to test the gun"
The guy loading the mags: 👁️👄👁️
Since the magazines are 12 deep instead of 10 it saved that soldier 500 reloads at 2500 total instead of 3000!
Ian's joke that it did 2 better than the 10 rounds req'd is low balled!
@@phil1606 he had to do it twice too since the Colt was still included at that point
I'm pretty sure that's the unspoken reality of being an army ranger...
I suppose getting a team of a hundred guys loading 25 mags would do it. Hand them six boxes of cartridges and 25 mags and it’d be tedious, but only for like a day or two.
@@joshuahadamsor get 10 000 guys be done before dinner
Thank God we didn't have to see the brutality of the suppressor coming off. RUclips is absurd
What's up with that?
What the hell is going on there...?
It’s probably some stupid RUclips rules about suppressor’s
@@jat1994 You can show it on the gun.
You can show it off the gun.
You just can't show it being attached/detached.
That's like saying "You can have nudity and you can have clothes off, but we're blurring the act of dressing and undressing!"
PSG1, FAMAS... Now the SOCOM...
I now look forward to your upcoming Mi24 Hind D mud-test
Boss, get down! That's an enemy gunship...
Crawl along the (mud soaked) ground, that will allow you to sneak past enemies..
a hind d? colonel what's a russian gunship doing here?
7.62 x39mm oh shit you again
Where's the colonel? He needs to contact me and give me my mission profile and I need Meiling to sound sexy with her Japanese accent otherwise. No mission.
And can I get some rations ??
Being in an S.F. unit with the name "FOX" in it doesn't sit too well with me either
I'm. .ore of a Timberwolf. Personality .than a lil cute fox .
HK: "I have a grey pleasure room. Do you want to see it?"
Ian: *Sets up camera*
After he came round and had a nice cup of sweet tea to help with the shock of course! 😂👍
Now that's my type of 50 shades of grey.
@@doubleT84 50 shades of gun metal grey
There's just something about that bulky laser module that I love
Bro I was looking through these comments for someone else who thought the same.
@mizoreshirayuki5470 same here, looking for a compliment on the bulky laser
I thought it's underbarrell grenade launcher
I have one of these in my safe, and the thing is an absolute horse. I mean ENORMOUS. Big enough to rival a Desert Eagle in size. Definitely not meant for a small handed shooter and no way could you ever conceal one on the street unless you're wearing a parka. They're also very expensive. Mine came with a price tag of $2,200.00. However, it's not unlike a Model 29: very impractical to lug around, but an absolute blast to shoot (no pun intended). Very accurate, very durable, and has accepted any and every kind of .45 ACP I've chosen to feed it without a single malfunction. I certainly get a lot of questions when I bring it to the range, and the funny look I got from the guy behind the counter at the gun store when I asked if he could get me one was pretty memorable.
If you live in the United States, and you fish with a fine net when it comes to firearms, you should give the Mk 23 some consideration. They're a hoot.
Recently received my KAC can for mine from NFA jail and boy do you need to try to hunt one down. Makes it even more phenomenal than it already is
@@MellowFellowOfYellow I'd love to have a suppressor for mine (AND a LAM), but I freely admit to not being proactive in securing either. There's always that other seductive buy on a pistol...or a rifle (I'm a total sucker for M1 Garands)...or that sweet deal on 7.62 because my HK91's gotta eat too. You get the idea. The short version is that I always seem to find SOMETHING else I want to buy at this very moment and I'll set the cash aside and buy that pimp shit for my SOCOM one of these days, I swear to God... [sigh]
There's SO MANY great toys out there, and I'm SO BAD at self control. Lol
thanks! new shopping list;
glock 20sf frame can make 12-13 gun outs of it through swaps check
small gun high cap g43x shield arms 15rd mags with release check
aug green in 223 30-42rd mads 3xscope/trijicon/aimpoint and suppressor TBD
this gun TBD
you cost me 2k+ live with that knowledge its your mission now big boss haha
wait theres also that beretta px4 SOCOM for 1k hmmm 45 threaded special forces sneaky greenish color to blend in to grass better for getting outta playing golf early hehehehehe
Il stick with my G21, it’s also pretty big and extremely durable, reliable and accurate but you can find them for like 600 😂.
Nastasha Romanenko: "Harasho...good! You found a SOCOM. That's a Special Operations Command pistol. It's a .45 caliber pistol with plenty of stopping power. It's also equipped with a LAM (Laser Aiming Module) for nighttime combat. If you find a SOCOM suppressor, you can equip that, too. That pistol was designed specifically for use by special forces, so I think it will be useful. Some people find it a little heavy and hard to use, but it shouldn't be a problem for you."
anggi bhagawad I read that in her voice. 👍🏻
came here for this comment, wasn’t disappointed
@@GulagPower Sexy Ruskies...
Oh the good old times...
That bitch was hot. I can still hear her voice in my head.
Do you think love can bloom even on a battlefied, Ian?
That would be really creepy to ask while on a battlefield looking Isn in the eye.
@ it's a metal gear solid ref my dude
Lmao
Yes!!!!!! METAL GEEARRR lol
Otacon
Am I the only one impressed with the o-ring that lasts for 20k rounds? The o-rings I use with for motorsports purposeless tear and wear out if they're put under slight stress. I need those hk o-rings.
To be fair the stress of a firearm is much less then that of a vehicle
Edit: PROBABLY
I owned one but ended up giving it to a friend that worked as a private contractor in afganistan. He said it saved him on two occasions and that made me very happy. I also owned the hk usp in 45 acp. Another very well made gun.
You gotta give more details! Tell his story and how your gun saved him
I'm surethe story is like this [REDACTED]
that was incredibly nice of you
I don’t... I don’t think that’s how that works.
So blocky. Really was the perfect choice for a low-poly model in a PS1 game.
SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE
@doctorwho0077 can you stop being a pretentious asshole acting as if you're better than others just because you didn't play a videogame on everyone's comments?
@@figliodihades Did you read his name? He's just trying to be in character, although quite poorly.
@@Boro87 Name's Plissken
Wrong Snake.
"Colonel. This is Ian. I'm in front of the disposal facility."
"Good. Age hasn't slowed you down one bit."
"DO NOT SHOOT DUMMY ONLY"
At court: "Your honor, I was only following instructions."
Interesting that the art directors for MGS1 used elements from the Phase 1 and Phase 3 versions of the gun. They used the Phase 1 laser with the final production suppressor, even the photo of the gun they used in the final results screen of the game has the original laser module.
Also interesting that the original prototype of the MK 23 had the locking slide mechanism that would end up on the tranq guns in the later games of the series
I scrolled through the comments for this!
A slide lock for single shot operation
*welrod wants to know your location*
I remember seeing a Beretta M9 with a special built suppressor and slide lock on it as well. It's pretty rare as far as I know.
@@williamwalker9315 yeah, I only saw those at Big Shell. Real rare stuff.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I remember that. Didn't they name it hushpuppy or something?
@@williamwalker9315 Dead on.
@@ArcturusOTE You're pretty good.
“Just like old times”
Solid Snake - Shadow Moses.
@OCD Stig Snake also says it in MGS4 visiting shadow Moses
Not martin luther king?
Andre A yes!!!!!!!!!!!
Those are Alaskan field mice
Yeah the good old times, thanks for that journey back in time.
I was able to tour the "grey room" when I went to HK for MP5 armorer training over 20 years ago. Very impressive. The MK 23 was/is very overengineered, and was essentially obsolete by the time it was issued. It is also as big as a desert eagle, and the holster issued with it is a POS. To make matters worse, it was developed prior to "rail standardization", so you were pretty much limited to HK proprietary lights and lasers due to its weird accessory mounting arrangement (via the hole in the trigger guard). The Mk23 as you said was designed primarily by input of the SEALs. This is what you get when you let those guys make a wish list for everything they want in such a gizmo. The most positive aspect of the MK23 is that it became the "start point" of the USP series, which of course is a pistol that is actually useable as a traditional handgun. That said, the MK23 is very accurate, and I was issued one as late as 2006, although I never actually "used" it for mission purposes (we all opted to carry our 9mm pistols instead) - I did enjoy shooting it from time to time at the range at the firebase.
12:40 - Hahaha.... RUclips fail. They did good job blurring out Ian's knuckles, but now we know exactly how that suppressor attaches.
20:45 - Got the laser that time. Aww RUclips, you're so good at blurring shit out. You oughta do that for a living.
Fun fact : the Metal Gear Solid MK23 is based on the phase 2 model, since the staff based its design on the Tokyo Marui MK23, an airsoft reproduction of the phase 2 model.
[edit] Actually I got that wrong. The Tokyo Marui MK23 has been released in 2002, so it was 4 years after the release of Metal Gear Solid 1. Tokyo Marui probably released the MK23 as a reference to Metal Gear Solid 1, not the other way around. I still believe it explains why the game uses a FAMAS G1 and a PSG1 (they were both available as Tokyo Marui airsoft guns even back then), but I guess they wanted the "main character gun" to be something special.
Ian: So today we’re covering the SOCOM .45
Shadow Moses: **chuckles** I’m in danger
Dreadnought I’m a follower of Gun Jesus
@@Joe32553 based? Based on what?
Sad to see youtube forcing you to blur out parts of the video, just in case someone nefarious gets their hands on an early prototype Mk23 and wants to attach the suppressor
Why is that a problem?
>you don’t wanna be stuck with a J frame revolver
Revolver Ocelot laughs in Colt Single Action Army
“This is the greatest handgun ever made” - Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)
Can approve
The Desert Eagle
Revolver "Revolver Ocelot" Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)
@@Canama139 also known as, “Revolver Ocelot,” to some.
Shalashaska even, if you're so inclined
So, when are you running a 2 gun match with one of these and your FAMAS? It would make the Metal Gear fans in the comments happy.
DO IT!
Now onlt if he had a Stinger.
I need to see this lol
In a sneaking suit
Give the FAMAS and SOCOM to Karl as Snake, and Ian should go as Revolver Ocelot.
Ian you forgot to talk about the hero that used this gun in Alaska 14 years ago he prevented a nuclear disarter
I need a source and a name.
@@LordVader1094 That man goes by many names.
But he is well-known around the world as simply: *Snake*
You, Sir, are a true gamer.
@@jomo5800 When i look up the name a few names come up, Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, Naked Snake, and then Snake Pliskin. Which is it?
CorkScrewDood ALL OF THEM
The best handgun to fight cyborg ninjas.
"Only a fool trusts his life to a weapon"
And old badass russian fomer GRU spies
youre supposed to punch him wut
Hand to hand is the basis of all combat
@@sllc1081 The best gun to fight back against a specialist in interrogation and a formidable gunfighter.
Ian is the only person who never gets hate. What’s there to dislike?! He’s awesome!
Just like Hickock45 and jerry miculek. The three wisemen
The downvotes are from Colt-engineers.
@@AdamD19D hickock sucks off the NRA, Jerry is a good dude though.
@@AdamD19D Of Quebec?
@@walangchahangyelingden8252 negative
COLONEL, SOME GUY WITH A PONY TAIL STOLE MY PISTOL. WHAT DO I DO?!
You cry,Then you go try to get it back
Grow your own ponytail
That's Ian, he is fascinated by unique weapons. You should be able to get your pistol back if you give him a more interesting weapon to focus on.
try to remember some of the basics of CQC
@@crestfallensunbro6001 Or just find a FAMAS and trade it with him, he'll definitely have a blast with that
Whoever did this is a professional, no question. The perfect tool for a sneaking mission.
Actually, it is far from perfect for stealth missions. Even if suppressed, the mk23 is still loud and cumbersome. Although, it is still one of the best side arm out there.
@@burny6666 dude it's a quote from mgs3. And it's technically referring to the custom 1911 but this is the signature weapon of the series.
Gage Parris The liberator from MGS4?
@@Max-fb5bm Oh yeah, as the EZ gun, the liberator makes an appearance in mgs3 and Peacewalker too
You could say it’s a weapon to surpass metal gear
So an offensive, large frame, .45 caliber Special Operations Command Pistol.
Solid Snake's personal sidearm. Perfection.
excellent review Ian. I have had a keen interest in this gun since it first appeared. It is probably one of the most well engineered pistols for extreme uses. I liked your patient and detailed descriptions.
The USP just isn't as badass without the bulky tacticool aiming module.
Hikurac It's still a very good gun. I shot the USP expert. What a smooth gun! In 9mm unnecessary big but a real joy to shoot with.
For me it's the Beretta M9. Without suppressor and Laser/Lamp it look's like trash
HK made lights and laser for the USP. Maybe not as tacticool but they had to come out with something to fit the proprietary rail. By today's standard's they're not so great
100%
The USP. 40 is the smoothest .40s&w I've ever shot an carried wish I never got rid of it
Ian?.....IAN?? IIIAAANN!!!!!!!!
@Miguel Terriguel what a fun little sidearm
I came here in the comments just to find some sort of mgs reference. This will do😂
Ian you killed a child...
Dun dun da dun dun
@@thestateofdk dudududududu Du DA
Totally enjoy these iterative videos. Learning how the production evolves through the generations of design is just the perfect amount of geeky.
I imagine the suppressor removal blurring is due to RUclips rules? I feel much safer because of this. If I ever find myself in the wonderful situation of having to remove a prototype HK suppressor from a prototype HK MK 23 I definitely wont be prepared to do it.
30,000 rounds of .45 +P... That’s just incredibly impressive.
180g is interesting, I have not seen the ballistics.
Who paid for all those
@@tywatts7834The american taxpayer
I purchased a case of this ammo as part of an overrun. Comes in a Winchester white box marked Q4310. Advertised muzzle energy is 534 ft lbs and 1130 fps muzzle velocity. It has a flat point"truncated cone" encapsulated base per the box.@@sgt.f.t.o.4967
Ian certainly evaded saying this design is for assassinations.
W Clark it nearly came out more than once.
It's a given. Not like there's ever going to be a High Noon shootout scenario. It's a war machine.
Lets stow this fellas.
@@robertreynolds9228 Nothing nobody doesn't already know mate.
@@robertreynolds9228 You got it Mr. CIA man.
They may not function well or be particularly practical but that phase 1 LAM and suppressor are absolutely beautiful, so chunky, so square. Gives the gun such a unique silhouette.
Harasho...good! You found a SOCOM. That's a Special Operations Command pistol. It's a .45 caliber pistol with plenty of stopping power. It's also equipped with a LAM (Laser Aiming Module) for nighttime combat. If you find a SOCOM suppressor, you can equip that, too. That pistol was designed specifically for use by special forces, so I think it will be useful. Some people find it a little heavy and hard to use, but it shouldn't be a problem for you.
Gun Jesus talks about the world's most unbreakable gun. I honestly wasn't ready for the sheer overload of MGS references in the comments, however.
17:56 just a brief "honhon" escaped from Ian's Francophilian core..
1756 is also the year that The seven. Years war started
MrRaja681 illuminati confirmed
😂😂😂
😂
I wish this comment was higher 😂
I periodically return to this video just for the MGS comments and I've never been disappointed.
You know Ian, you continue to both educate and impress me with your videos. You leave 'no stone un-turned' in your dissertation: That takes work AND talent. Thank you.
Okay, now I'll wait for the Single Action Army review.
And twirl the revolver too... please..
Six bullets.... more than enough to kill anything that moves!
But the engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Ben Abad Who needs tactical when you can be tactiCOOL
@@benabad4186 Unless you were planning to auction it off as a collector's item.
@@benabad4186 unless your auctioning off as a collectors item
"Boss.... You killed a child"
GREAT JOB BOSS THAT WHY YOUR THE BEST
wrong metal gear game
Kazuhira "Fulton a Brown I'll shoot him down" Miller (if you dont get the joke then disregard this , whoever is reading)
AMAZING, MISSION COMPLETE! THAT RIGHT THERE IS WHY YOU'RE THE BEST, BOSS!
*you're
Kazuhira "Apartheid states get discount rates" Miller
This was really informative. The presentation was smooth and enjoyable. Good job!
Even if its not a .47 caliber, I can picture this HK45 talking back to me and saying "You will find me a valuable asset, master, willing and able to terminate anything you point me towards."
It’s amazing how something so overengineered can still be so durable and reliable
The Mark 23 is a fantastic pistol
It isn't overengineered though. It's just a big, solid handgun doing exactly what it needs to do.
Except that it's over-engineered for reliability. The extra springs make sure the main springs last longer, etc.
@@catfish552 It's overengineered by the mere fact that's it's _Made in _*_Germany_* …
@@Smartcom5 so were rohm revolvers XD
@@corditechewer Rohm? Never hear of her. Is she single? _Or did you meant _*_Röhm_*_ by any chance?!_
" You ever use that thing Rookie? "
Eddie Moreno the safety’s on.
Hahaha he didnt say anything like that
@@88keysperfeel1ng9 It’s a Metal gear reference not something Ian said.
You have rookie eyes
@@RAIDEN7903 "they're transplants!"
RUclips: "You are not allowed to show how a sound suppressor is unscrewed from a firearm because we dictate it, retroactively, because we can". "And next week, it will be something else !" (10:20)
No rights for you, expendable creator, you are now inside the bounds of our despotic private tech company !
Land of the free, home of the brave ?
The internet must be free, as its people must
While silly for the gun community, if you believe in private rights, this is their platform (their "house") so therefore their rules. Content Creators are free to show the video elsewhere, if they want.
Everybody remembers Snake and Shadow Moses, but nobody remembers my boy Raiden and Big Shell 😢
Ah yes, The gun most well known from a video game.
The golden one-shot-kill gun from Goldeneye?
SOCOM Series?
@@1970HondaCL100 wtf man. Metal Gear Solid
Metal gear solid was one of the hardest games ever made, this gun was needed
Call of duty modern warfare
Colonel what's a Russian gunship doing here?
I have no idea, but it looks like our little diversion got their attention. Now's your best chance to slip in unnoticed.
Wow... he must be crazy to fly a hind in this kind of weather
@@homopetteri7766 Who's that?!
A surveillance camera?
Its just a box
I expected mgs referances in the comments. I wasn't disappointed.
are you blind?
i guess they didn't keep you waiting, huh?
@@0Chino13 You know what he's trying to say? He says he's glad for the references there.
didnt even get the chance to say "kept you waiting, huh?"
Inherited one from my dad about 7 years ago. Put thousands of rounds through it and has yet gotten any stoppage. Truly the best pistol ever made (although a bit large)
lmao the hell! i heard of inheriting the old family hunting rifle but a MARK 23 SOCOM? Super lucky!
Give the FAMAS and SOCOM to Karl as Snake, and Ian should go as Revolver Ocelot.
That would make me so happy.
Karl is the one that did cowboy action shooting
@@usmcaa12 I'm going more for the aesthetics. Their equipment and skill sets are normally reversed...but c'mon...
Karl can totally look like Snake and Ian can totally look like Ocelot.
@@JohnChoidotOrg That said, Karl could pull off Major Ocelot instead of older Shalashaska
Give ian a pair of Colt SAA's and a trench coat
The locked-slide-when-firing is an amazingly useful feature. No idea why they decided to get rid of it, it didn't hinder the rest of the weapon in any way. Could've left it there and still made all the other changes.
Concern under stress the operator would forget to in-lock the slide, hence slowing follow-up shot. Also, created a stress point/weak point in the frame
@@chadrogers507 Added complexity, too. More machining steps, more parts, polymer frame needs to be more intricate and by extension so are the molds for it.
these are SF i dont think that applies like with a regular rifleman@@chadrogers507
Everyone's talking about MGS, but no one's talking about SOCOM: US Navy SEALS for the PS2. Game even came with its own headset for AI comms and people can't be bothered to remember it. Makes me sad.
Underrated game
Furious321 unpopular for a reason
Man, I sank so many hours into those games. Shame that hackers ruined multiplayer by the end of it. People often ask me why I know NATO phonetic if I wasn't in the Armed Forces or police and I have SOCOM to thank for that.
@@billyboleson2830 I loved it when I was kid, makes me sad I was too young to actually appreciate it at the time
@@billyboleson2830 it was not underrated. The servers were always packed!
"Freaking huge gun." The Mk23 is one step away from being a crew served weapon.
OK now I get the explanation the other guy noted about them preferring Glocks or 11s
Well that's what people say but once you hold it and fire it you never think that again because you realize it's the perfect size 😁
Its really not that bad, especially when you're shooting it.
@@bobbrown3667 Couldn't agree more. It's always been my dream gun. I have large hands and can use it just fine, but it works equally well in the hands of my 5'3 wife. It's perfection. Also, not sure if Bob Brown is your real name or a Unit reference. Either way, cool name!
Right up until you practice with it. It's not that bad.
"The Mk 23 SOCOM was procured by ex-FOXHOUND operative Solid Snake during the Shadow Moses Incident. He later used the pistol to perform the mercy-killing of the heavily wounded Sniper Wolf. SOCOM pistols also saw use with the Next-Generation Special Forces, during the time of FOXHOUND's revolt."
what's this, a US Military pistol development program that actually finished? quite forgotten
Pretty much
neva ben dun befo
Buuuuuuurn
@Zach cash And HK did what they mostly do the last years.
Took something they already have and adapted it to fit the requirements.
Gave it a new name and made it a lot more expensive :D
@Zach cash Legacy of Operation Paperclip never died xD
Bruce Willis brought some pain with this pistol in Tears of the Sun.
That scene when they run through that village was intense
I had a standard usp 45 great gun but even the standard one was big for its job
Tore the village the fuck up with that bad boy.
When I see Mk 23 SOCOM, I think of Metal Gear Solid. Most Iconic handgun in Solid Snakes arsenal.
Hush Puppy is more iconic
@@wellifailed392 Not at all
Came here because this pistol was used in the Metal Gear Solid series, and gotta say, this was very informative on the weapon's history! Thank you for the incredible detail and overview on the SOCOM .45!
"Every night you have families killed...and yet, here you dine. Tonight should be no different."
That movie was fuckin great
Great film. Benecio Del Toro was great in that role.
Nomad, Holt, Midas and Weaver liked this awesome reference
@@bernardorodero8374 Then Ubisoft cucked and removed most of the squad dialogue because game journalists complained.
Finally a sicario reference
The Mk23 is one of those guns that I really *REALLY* want because reasons. It fills no practical need for me but it's just so cool I must have one.
@Steve Campbell Oh this is neat! *Buys howitzer*
Need a need? You want to get into 45ACP suppressors.
Agreed sir!
Reasons = solid snake cosplay
Impressive. Almost as effective as an Ocelot with two SAA revolvers.
Ocelots are proud creatures
Nothing's as effective as that.
well that's obvious since the single action army is the best firearm ever created.
David Rossi *_SIIIIIIPPPPP_*
They prefer to hunt alone.
"Colonel, this is Snake"
kept you waiting huh
River age hasn’t slowed you down one bit
New CODEC. Who dis?
Snake, check it, go sneak that shit!
15:02 *tugging on cylinder* Gun Jesus: "This one's a little bit stiff and sticky."
Me: ;_; *heavy breathing*
I want to like but you have 69 likes :'(
@@user-ll9nl8gu5u dont feel bad anymore lol
Lmao!
I laughed way too much. My inner 12 year old completely approves.
Metal Gear Solid (PS1) based their MK23 SOCOM pistol on the Airsoft version from Tokyo Marui. Tokyo Marui used the Phase II model MK23 as the base, then they attached the box type LAM from the Phase I model, then the KAC suppressor from the Phase III model. So the MGS MK23 is basically a hybrid.
The more you know
It makes sense Because in Japan is ilegal have guns
Airsoft was around in the 90s?
@@user-hu8we3ii7kOh yes, the MK23 TM is from 94' and tokyo marui is a reference in airsoft, making gun since the 80s. Though they invented the hop up in 93 and taht's what booster airsoft.
EDIT: small precision, the NBB Mk23 in a box is from 2002 but there was an earlier version too. It had a fixed hop up.
BTW, it's also why there's a FAMAS and a PSG1 too, those were blocky models from tokyo Marui, avalaible at the time.
Snake: Weapons and Equipments OSP? (On-Site Procurement)
Colonel: YES, This is a top-secret black op.
On site procurement is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard of, let's be honest
It was common for agents in WW2 dropping into occupied territory. They'd take an easy to conceal single shot pistol, meant to be used to kill a soldier or sentry and then take his weapon.
@@WhatIsThatThingDoing are you telling me that WW2 commandos were playing battle royale before everybody else??
Also yeah OSP is dumb but it makes sense for a videogame, especially when at the time realism wasn`t as popular, so it was a balance between realism and videogame fun
@@Axl4325 well it's good for long range recon behind enemy lines your not gonna get alot of your preferred ammo and if you don't bring anything other than a disposable shit pistol it won't be much a waste to ditch it
The mk23 was the first gun I bought, in thousands of rounds fired through it, it never misfired ONCE.
I can say the same for my USP 40. This is a great family of handguns.
To get right down to it, I can say the same thing about my Astra A100, I ordered it new out of Shotgun News back when I had my FFL, and over the next 12 years, I fired thousands of rounds through her with zero malfunctions, in fact I carried her for a duty weapon, and qualified with her every 3 months, I practiced with her at least weekly using my own hand loaded ammo, and carried commercial ammo for duty and qualification. Of course being an old Vietnam Vet, I carried her with 230 grain fmj and used that same bullet in my hand loads. I still have the old handgun and except for a bit of polish on her blued surface from being carried in my nylon holster, she looks as good as the day I purchased her.
Same here. Put a lot of rounds downrange through a mk23 and it never once gave me any doubt.
And this is one of those guns where I can believe that without question.
Do you still have it? Love HK and everything that went into this pistol. Just wondering how much I'll shoot it to make it worth the price...
"by the way colt to this day has still never produced a pistol that would meet the initial requirements of this program much less pass all the durability testing."
BRUTAL LAST MINUTE SHADE
COLT FANS BTFO
Happy 4th of July amerifa*s!
Old Colt used to be pretty solid I think. But yeah, those days are past.
Ought to let Colt Canada, previously known as Diemaco, have a shot at it.
@@Mr_T_Badger Is Colt Canada known for top-tier pistols tho?
Kacper Dziedzic I do not actually know the answer to that. I know they did improve on the M16A3 and M4 designs to create the C7 and C8 rifles. However the Canadian Armed Forces have used the Browning Hi-Power as their service pistol pretty much since World War 2 and is only just now considering replacing them. Para-Ordinance makes pretty good M1911’s with double stack magazines but after reading their wiki page, they are sadly no longer Canadian owned or manufactured.
I’ve heard people complain about the decocker being hard to actuate being flush with the frame, but I feel like it doesn’t matter because by the time you use the decocker you’ve finished your job and you’re not under stress anymore.
Thank you Gun jesus!!! I have been waiting in ages for this vid..
“You’re pretty good, just what I’d expect from the man with the same code as the boss”
Incoming MGS fans and comments in 3... 2... 1...
Blast off.
Otacon, they have a Metal gear!
Not in my case... but Delta Force Land Warrior
Youre pretty good
Kept you waiting, huh?
I want to see Ian do an episode on the cardboard box 😂
An ODA team member I worked with on my second deployment called this the "crew served pistol" and said they absolutely hated them. They carried Glock 19's around the FOB and 1911's on mission.
What's the matter? Fragile frame? Heavy trigger?
They're just huge. The MK23 is damn near the size of a Desert Eagle.
@@DinnerForkTongue absolute BS, the gun loaded weight as much as a M9 unloaded.
@@DinnerForkTongue ignorance in the age of mobile internet devices is just inexcuseable
@@slckb0y65 Truth!
Liquid: Why did you come here?
Snake: ...?
Liquid: Well... I'll tell you then. You enjoy all the guns, that's why.
Snake: What!
Liquid: Are you denying it? Haven't you already seen most of them?
Snake: That was...
Liquid: I watched your face as I disassembled them!
USA: Heres a list of a couple dozen hard requirements. Good luck Germans!
HK: *BRRRRRRAKAMONO GA*
In a pool of Metal Gear references, I have discovered a rare jojoke.
you where expecting a metal gear solid reference, but it was me a jojoke!
Never thought i'd see a jojoke
German science is the best in the world!
@@crazycurious9771 DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAIICHI
When Solid Snake tried to trade Meryl His 45 Socom for Meryl's Desert Eagle. Meryl was not having it.
Sucks to be her: the Deagle is a cumbersome block of metal that happens to be shaped like a gun.
Tell me about it I rather take the 45 any day.
Well, when your more comfortable with a desert eagle than you are with a bra, hard to blame her....
Very True you can't get more comfortable than that. Lol
That had to have been reverse psychology. MK23 looks huge but is actually quite ergonomic unless you have small hands, and it does not know the meaning of "jam." Desert Eagle is a humongous chunk with too much recoil, and it doesn't know how to NOT jam with alarming regularity.
Fun thing. Looking at my airsoft TM Mk23. It has the same serial-number as the phase 2.
I guess they based it of this exact gun...
I wonder how they got access to that.
I can finally die in peace. A video on not only my favorite pistol the Mk.23, but its history and development. Gun Jesus has blessed me today.
Maybe he'll take it to the range next video.
amen
You need to buy one! Two years later and I never get tired of shooting and fondling it!
Would have been a good time to explain why some military guns are given "M" designation and others "Mk."
It just comes down to which service branch developed it or did the acquisition. Mk is Navy system, M is Army. But things end up being used by eachother, like Mk19, M11, Mk18, M4.
Similarly, electronics that get used by both are where you get "AN" as in AN/PVS, Army/Navy Portable Visual Search.
Or AN/PRC, Army/Navy Portable Radio Communication.
Or for aircraft, "A" for Attack, "F" for Fighter, "V" for VTOL, "H" for helicopter. Thus, F-22, A-12 or F/A-18, V-22, H-60.
What would be the difference between an Attack aircraft and a Fighter aircraft tho? Is a Fighter only defensive?
@@spiritdanimal9302 fighter is air to air like the F22 is an air superiority fighter. Attack is air to ground like the A10 which does air support. F/A means it's a jack between the two.
@@spiritdanimal9302 to be confusing the a12 is a CIA aircraft where the a stands for archangel and is not an attack aircraft.
Courier Six
Makes sense. Thank you.
Let's not forget the M14 turned Mk14
Prior to this I never thought of there being an issue with tilting barrels and suppressors. I actually learned something unique today. Good stuff.
I wonder how many dudes didn't realize there was an invisible IR laser dot on their forehead before the lights went out...
It's not the kind of gun that's used to shoot people in the _front_ of the head, I shouldn't imagine.
it's more like a red dot than a IR
@@ZGryphon Yes, if the target is a non-IR vision-equipped guard you want to go down quietly.
Thanks for the laugh :)))
@@ZGryphon I'm sure they've hit quite a few angles!