Dragunov Variations: Military SVD, Izhmash Tiger, Chinese NDM-86

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  • @TheDroidekas
    @TheDroidekas 7 лет назад +3151

    No interchangeable part with the AK-47 ? Still banned in Canada for being a Variant of the AK-47

    • @journeymanreefer6252
      @journeymanreefer6252 7 лет назад +147

      TheDroidekas sucks to be true north strong and (not) free. Greeting from AB.

    • @davidoakley3256
      @davidoakley3256 6 лет назад +333

      TheDroidekas lets not forget that they are the same RCMP anti-gun politician funded "experts" who deemed the semi-auto blowback 22lr AK lookalikes to be AK-47 variants and prohibited.
      This will blow you mind.
      GSG 15 22lr 16 inch barrel & fixed stock "non-restricted"
      GSG stg44 22lr 16 inch barrel & fixed stock "non-restricted"
      GSG AK47 22lr 16 inch barrel & fixed stock "prohibited"
      GSG MP5 22lr 16 inch barrel & fixed stock "prohibited"

    • @caffeinatedinsanity2324
      @caffeinatedinsanity2324 6 лет назад +206

      Banned by name, not by specs. Stupidest idea ever, but if we have less mass shootings (of course in proportion to the population), at least that's a plus.

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 6 лет назад +52

      @@journeymanreefer6252 sucks to have a government that caters to Wendy Kookier

    • @TheWolfsnack
      @TheWolfsnack 6 лет назад +92

      @@davidoakley3256 ...and never forget the ban of the most popular 10-22 magazine because all of a sudden it was relabeled as a "pistol" mag.

  • @pterisvittata7799
    @pterisvittata7799 5 лет назад +553

    By the way:
    SVDS (foldable)
    SVDA (automatic fire)
    SVU (bullpup)
    SVUA (automatic, bullpup)
    SVDK (big caliber, 9,3x64)
    SVDM - modernized (shorter barrel, pikatiny, foldable stock)

    • @TheTrollik75
      @TheTrollik75 4 года назад +30

      Does SVDA really exist or is it just how it would be named if it existed? I coudn't find anything about it.

    • @yegorgribenuke6853
      @yegorgribenuke6853 4 года назад +5

      I think its picatinni not pikatiny because it sounds Italian and thats how they talk

    • @lambo5965
      @lambo5965 3 года назад +10

      There was in fact automatic Drags made but only in prototype variations. No automatic drag was ever produced in large numbers for commercial, law enforcement or military use.

    • @chandima339
      @chandima339 3 года назад +6

      now
      TG3 - Russian Civilian SVD Chambered in 9.6x53mm Lancaster

    • @danbell3827
      @danbell3827 3 года назад +19

      Once you learn how the russians label guns, most of these, and a lot of other "alphabet soup" gun names become pretty easy to figure out. Usually 2 or 3 letters are the type of weapon and designer (AK:Kalashnikov's automatic, SVD: Dragunov's sharpshooter rifle, etc) Then, you simply add on other letters to designate other features or changes. S means folding stock, M is a modernized/improved version, N means it has night vision scope mounts, U is shortened/compact, B usually means supressed. Obviously there are oddballs and exceptions, but as a rule of thumb they stuck with this

  • @mkmasterthreesixfive
    @mkmasterthreesixfive 6 лет назад +1389

    So, to make the SVD safe to enter the U.S, the ATF made then remove a safety feature. Sounds about right.

    • @unherolike
      @unherolike 4 года назад +273

      Its as if the ATF doesn't know anything about firearm's and just arbitrarily make up rules.

    • @G0ldbl4e
      @G0ldbl4e 3 года назад +85

      If you altered the trigger's disconnect the out-of-battery safety on that absolutely would act exactly like an auto sear so they aren't completely wrong.

    • @bonkyouded
      @bonkyouded 3 года назад +46

      @@G0ldbl4e But its a safe feature. As in its there to make the gun more SAFE!

    • @LiterallyWho1917
      @LiterallyWho1917 3 года назад +118

      The ATF has never done a single good thing for America prove me wrong

    • @Spanishfutbol2010
      @Spanishfutbol2010 3 года назад +33

      Joe Biden “the AFT”

  • @jgedutis
    @jgedutis 7 лет назад +3559

    The Dragunov is one of the coolest looking weapons ever created.

    • @Hannibal953able
      @Hannibal953able 7 лет назад +120

      Critical Mass It looks bad ass alright.

    • @xmm-cf5eg
      @xmm-cf5eg 7 лет назад +334

      Regardless of your opinion of the Soviets, they had some pretty sweet weapon designs.

    • @philippefrater2000
      @philippefrater2000 6 лет назад +120

      Everybody stop shooting when you grab it out of your bag at the range. It is the ultimate eye grabber. It even works with my airsoft replica... 😎🇫🇷😇

    • @mikimouse3001
      @mikimouse3001 6 лет назад +10

      Agree😎

    • @xaviermatsufuji8170
      @xaviermatsufuji8170 5 лет назад +15

      Olso psg1 H&K

  • @olegmishin5892
    @olegmishin5892 3 года назад +327

    I graduated from an artillery engineering military school in 1988. I am still interested in weapons. I watch your channel with interest. The host is just a professional. His manner of presentation is beyond praise. Best wishes from Russia. Special thanks for the Russian subtitles.

    • @Joker-zk2we
      @Joker-zk2we 3 года назад +14

      Good to see you my friend, love Russia, from the U.S

    • @TheFaveteLinguis
      @TheFaveteLinguis 3 года назад +4

      Что за училище?

    • @olegmishin5892
      @olegmishin5892 3 года назад +1

      @@TheFaveteLinguis penza.vamto.mil.ru/

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 2 года назад +2

      what are your thoughts on the current special military operation 🤔

    • @olegmishin5892
      @olegmishin5892 2 года назад +10

      @@alexm566 I think it would be better if it didn’t start. But once we started, we need to win.«Dulce bellum inexpertis»,

  • @Mythicalmage
    @Mythicalmage 7 лет назад +1928

    It always impresses me the amount of work the Russians put into durability.

    • @meathook3000
      @meathook3000 6 лет назад +329

      The climate makes such considerations paramount.

    • @Brokes9
      @Brokes9 6 лет назад +246

      Basically the Nokia’s of the gun business

    • @heynando
      @heynando 6 лет назад +178

      It's probably cause they know how fucked up their own logistics are. So the more time the object stays in service the better, instead of needing repairs every now and then, it's built to last "forever"

    • @Psiberzerker
      @Psiberzerker 6 лет назад +50

      They needed it. Honestly, so did the US Army, and Marines in Asia. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan... (Other countries we weren't at war with. Like Laos, but used as a dumping ground for unexploded ordinance to save fuel) We had light rifles, but the first generation of the M-16, and last one of the M-1 Carbine weren't reliable under those conditions, they got beat up. It's real nice to have a tack driver on the bench rest, but throw that in the trunk. Now, throw in a jack, and tire iron, maybe wash it down with a bucket of water from the gutter, and drive out to the range.
      If it doesn't fire, it has 0 Minute of Angle. The conditions in Asia where we took on the Russkies were often Worse than that trunk. Why Mossad called the (First generation) M-16 "The gun you have to shave."

    • @tedhodge4830
      @tedhodge4830 6 лет назад +63

      @@heynando Yeah, their logistics are -so- fucked up that every Tom, Dick and Harry in some third world shithole can easily supply himself with an AK-47 or SKS he picked up at the flea market for the equivalent of what you pay for a stick of gum, plus 3 30 round magazines and an armload of ammunition. And what the hell, an F2 grenade just for the hell of it.

  • @AtlasJotun
    @AtlasJotun 4 года назад +109

    "Would you like the blonde, the redhead, or the brunette?"
    "Indeed."
    P.S. You're telling me the ATF wouldn't allow import of this firearm unless they removed an out-of-battery safety? I'm shocked!

  • @epithet052
    @epithet052 7 лет назад +886

    Idk why replacing the wooden parts on a Russian rifle with a plastic part instantly make them seem more high-tech.

    • @dandanny6906
      @dandanny6906 6 лет назад +41

      Anima Manager
      becayse plaustucks comrade

    • @David-eh9le
      @David-eh9le 5 лет назад +70

      Its less weight

    • @kievanrus9434
      @kievanrus9434 5 лет назад +51

      Wood and steel. Wood and steel....

    • @hellscape73
      @hellscape73 5 лет назад +126

      Wood has been used in weapons for a long time, so it's probably the idea that wood makes it seem more vintage, which is how I at least got that same idea of it seeming more high-tech.

    • @dmitriyefremoff2575
      @dmitriyefremoff2575 5 лет назад +60

      Plastic parts are stronger and better tolerate contact with water. It’s easier to make many identical parts from plastic. The transition from wood and plywood to plastic was predictable. And you are absolutely right, with plastic parts the rifle has not become less charismatic, it looks more in the hi-tech style, although the design has been around for many years.

  • @moonrazk
    @moonrazk 7 лет назад +865

    Isn't the D in SVD actually Dragunov? So saying "SVD Dragunov" is like saying "ATM machine"?

  • @Liam-B
    @Liam-B 7 лет назад +21

    I remember seeing a new in box SVDS on gunbroker. The bid was at ~$32,000 when I saw it. Extremely rare version of an already very rare rifle in the states.
    Great vid!

  • @uo2430
    @uo2430 6 лет назад +528

    "I'm going to use my universal disassembly tool"
    *gets out a pen*

    • @sumvs5992
      @sumvs5992 4 года назад +11

      Can't wait for them to be banned for public use here in england then

    • @creepertd7712
      @creepertd7712 3 года назад +2

      Exactly what I was thinking it was before he said what it was

  • @blueshark6672
    @blueshark6672 7 лет назад +567

    fineally someone says that a SVD is NOT just a long AK. i was waiting for that

    • @eduardomunoz7207
      @eduardomunoz7207 5 лет назад +29

      The SVD is basically an AK but different. And longer.
      Yeet

    • @zenly_csgo
      @zenly_csgo 5 лет назад +7

      @@eduardomunoz7207 SVD is refreshed SVT-38 (Tokarev rifle)

    • @eduardomunoz7207
      @eduardomunoz7207 5 лет назад +16

      @@zenly_csgo shhh. Listen to me. It's a longer AK. We all know we just need to accept it.

    • @Tokito935
      @Tokito935 5 лет назад +7

      Long AK

    • @themadkraken1912
      @themadkraken1912 5 лет назад +2

      It's a commie .308 AK that looks good. The reciever looks the exact same. Wake up, sheeple.

  • @johnwillis4706
    @johnwillis4706 3 года назад +23

    I bought one each of these in the late 80's plus a PSL. They were cheap back then, $250 for the Russian, $200 for the Chinese and $150 for the Tiger and the PSL. After a couple of years the prices started going up and never stopped to this day.

    • @alexvermaak1759
      @alexvermaak1759 2 года назад +1

      Would you say it was worth it? They aren't as expensive here in South Africa as they are in America but they aren't cheap either, a brand new Tigr SVD costs the equivalent of about $900, right now im on the fence between getting one of these or a 300 blackout AR that I've had my eye on which id about the same price.

    • @johnwillis4706
      @johnwillis4706 2 года назад

      @@alexvermaak1759 I bought them because they were cheap and so was the ammo. No so now and with import ban on Russian ammo the prices have gone way up and it's harder to find. I would by the black out today. 300 black out performs as well as the old Russian ammo ever did.

    • @squidwardo7074
      @squidwardo7074 2 года назад +1

      Sounds like some bullshit absolutely no way you got a real russian one for $250. maybe $2500

    • @johnwillis4706
      @johnwillis4706 2 года назад

      @@squidwardo7074 Tell me, were you even alive in 85 and not filling your diaper? Unless you 18 or over in 85 and buying surplus firearms, how would you know what I paid for anything.

  • @alexm566
    @alexm566 2 года назад +7

    I always assumed guns were simple and all similar copied designs from one another. This channel made me understand and appreciate guns in a totally different way. Thank you, Ian.

  • @PDeRop
    @PDeRop 7 лет назад +1481

    Dragunov Variations.. is it just me, or does that sound like an elaborate piece for Violin?

  • @mudchair16
    @mudchair16 4 года назад +145

    20 February 1920, exactly 100 years ago, Evgeny Fedorovich Dragunov was born.

  • @Tuton25
    @Tuton25 7 лет назад +359

    I work at a gun store and I was tasked with cleaning an 870. I went to push out the pins for the trigger group with a universal firearms disassembly tool, crushed the tip, and got blue ink all over som poor guy's shotgun....

    • @SaturnVII
      @SaturnVII 7 лет назад +85

      Yeah, I don't really like using a pen for anything that requires a bit a force. Every time I see Ian use it I marvel at his courage.

    • @mysss29
      @mysss29 7 лет назад +4

      :O

    • @WhatAboutTheProles
      @WhatAboutTheProles 7 лет назад +18

      that's KIND OF like cleaning.

    • @SPECTR_Eternal
      @SPECTR_Eternal 6 лет назад +51

      Diz iz why you use a universal tool called boolet, komrad. It will not get crushed. But if will, there won't be you no more to answer for such thing happening.

    • @curtisthomas2670
      @curtisthomas2670 5 лет назад +6

      @Ammon Herrera How is the Remi garbage?? It's the most widely used and issued shotgun, very reliable and durable... I disagree strongly

  • @XTrooper3936
    @XTrooper3936 5 лет назад +35

    I owned a Dragunov Tiger back in the '90s when I had my gun shop. It was a fun shooter and a rugged, accurate weapon. I'm trying to remember from almost thirty years ago so I could be wrong, but I'm almost certain that mine, unlike the one in the video, had both a wooden forend and buttstock. It also had a similarly illuminated reticle (yellow) Russian scope. $6900?! I guess I should have kept that one! :)

    • @XTrooper3936
      @XTrooper3936 2 года назад +1

      @Brad Carter Definitely, Brad!

    • @DavidBanks02
      @DavidBanks02 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@XTrooper3936my boss has a tiger that I wanted to buy and he wants 12k for it. He paid ~900 for it in the 90s if I recall correctly. Sad those times are gone.

    • @XTrooper3936
      @XTrooper3936 9 месяцев назад

      @@DavidBanks02 My dealer price was $500-something which was a fair amount of money at the time, but not crazy expensive.

  • @danielmackormack8524
    @danielmackormack8524 2 года назад +8

    I owned a Norinco SVD chambered in 7.62x54 , mine had a adjustable gas system and a illuminated scope. It would have been interesting to compare the 3 scopes on those rifes. Your review was enjoyable and Very much appreciated ! Thank you

  • @jeffreystroman2811
    @jeffreystroman2811 7 лет назад +2

    Mostly I don't make it to the end of a video, but when you start giving detailed explanations of multiple trigger blocks I'm glued till the end. Thanks Eian.

  • @rt-wj8bl
    @rt-wj8bl 7 лет назад +939

    If i had a dollar for every time somebody said a romanian psl was a dragunov

    • @drunkensailor775
      @drunkensailor775 7 лет назад +12

      or TIGER
      please do not confuse civilian TIGER with SVD

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 7 лет назад +106

      I'd have enough money to buy an actual Dragunov

    • @Ra000leo
      @Ra000leo 7 лет назад +37

      You would have a dollar?

    • @clemensklawora2389
      @clemensklawora2389 7 лет назад +29

      You could buy a medium sized meal at Mcdonalds?

    • @maximus10ish
      @maximus10ish 7 лет назад +39

      In country, we referred to them all as drags, not sorry. Having shot a military issue psl and a military issue dragunov, in practical use they are identical.

  • @StPaul76
    @StPaul76 7 лет назад

    Back in -96 during my service in the FDF I spent one morning opening up 2 crates of Russian military SVD's, brand spanking new, dipped in cosmoline.. I took them apart, cleaned them, oiled the moving parts, put on the sights and crude-sighted them.. I remember the company commander came about and asked the one I was shooting later that day because he just "wanted to let off a few.. because THIS is a weapon for a FIGHTER.." This video brings back memories.. :) I have to admit the SVD is a very practical piece of hardware when one has to carry a weapon to the field and take down man-sized targets between 100m - 600m in relatively rapid motion. It certainly has panache to it and it looks mean as a motherf*.. :D I appreciate for making this video Ian. Greetings from Finland.

  • @i.k.562
    @i.k.562 5 лет назад +11

    I had one of those back in my time at service. Solid nice recoil, I loved it.

  • @webster7710
    @webster7710 7 лет назад +25

    That military SVD is absolutely gorgeous! In this one particular circumstance, it's kind of lucky Dragunovs are prohibited in Canada, because I might go into debt bidding on it if I were able.

  • @rjlee3112
    @rjlee3112 7 лет назад +181

    The usual "Russian gun is inaccurate" story. In fact its just as good as any other military rifle of this kind.
    One important detail was left out. Depending on the year the SVD was made it may have a different twist rate. Russians changed that during production. The gun initially came with a 320mm twist, which was optimized for "sniper ammo", but it was too slow for other loads. They changed that to 240mm, which improved its capability to accurately fire ball, AP, tracer and the lot, but at a reduced accuracy for match loads. Out of the factory its expected to be under 1.5MOA with "sniper ammo".
    All military DMR's are primarily expected to fire ball most of the time, at about 2MOA on a good day. SVD, after twist rate change, being no exception. If anything SVD set the bar that many still struggle to beat for a military grade precision rifle.

    • @cardboard_shaft
      @cardboard_shaft 6 лет назад +4

      Nah

    • @fulcrum2951
      @fulcrum2951 5 лет назад +3

      Don't forget the combatants involved in using the weapon, is it a trained force or some amateur?

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 4 года назад +5

      @@fulcrum2951 GRAU shooting tables (1977 edition) give the following data on the matter of shooter qualification. At 100 m an average marksman shooting SVD prone with sniper ammo (7N1) can achieve groups 6 cm high and 4.2 cm wide, while the best snipers can relaibly get groups 2.6 cm high and 2.8 cm wide (ca 1.1 MOA).

    • @zenly_csgo
      @zenly_csgo 4 года назад

      well they realized that Nato soldiers equips new west and helmets so they have to adopt heavier bullets

    • @alex59248
      @alex59248 3 года назад +1

      @@zenly_csgo idk man, you really think 7.62x54r won’t go through a vest...let alone a helmet

  • @Vulf_Faolan
    @Vulf_Faolan 7 лет назад +121

    Thanks Ian. I hear a lot of people saying the Chinese SVD's are just re-marked Russian SVD's, and others saying "No, Chinese SVD's are made in China but copied so perfectly you'd never be able to tell the difference". It's nice to have a detailed side-by-side comparison to see there are actually quite a few differences.

    • @phileas007
      @phileas007 7 лет назад +9

      That always amazed me:
      ppl are ok with Chinese copying the AK, but somehow not the SVD????
      where's the logic......

    • @Vulf_Faolan
      @Vulf_Faolan 7 лет назад +13

      What do you mean? Most of what I've heard about the Chinese SVD has been really positive. People seem to like them.

    • @kalashloy4179
      @kalashloy4179 7 лет назад +16

      yep, and actually Chinese didnt received any assistance from the Soviets when they cloned the SVD, they're pretty much mad at each other around that time and the Chinese clones are copied with captured earlier model specimens from wars with Vietnam.

    • @si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906
      @si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 7 лет назад +15

      phileas007 😂 in all fairness, the Type 56 was permitted by the Soviet. The Type 79/85 was to piss off the Soviet😂

    • @humansvd3269
      @humansvd3269 7 лет назад +5

      I own the NDM 86 in 54r, previously owned a Tigr like the one shown above and got to shoot someone else's soviet made SVD. I couldn't tell a different in terms of performance regarding the soviet and chinese one. The differences shown are cosmetic and don't really mean anything. The Chinese did a good job making an SVD, and I feel it's worthy of the SVD name.

  • @tehgreatvak
    @tehgreatvak 7 лет назад +351

    Ok, I'm going to be a pedant here and point out that there actually was a full auto variant of the Dragunov in the SVU-A and SVU-AS that were full auto variant of the SVU, that was itself a bullpup variant of the Dragunov. Now do variants of variants count, I can't tell, but I couldn't pass an opportunity to sound smarter than I really am.

    • @thegoldencaulk2742
      @thegoldencaulk2742 7 лет назад +125

      Well, if you're truly being a pedant, than the SVU doesn't count. Ian said there's no fully automatic _SVD._

    • @SternUndead
      @SternUndead 7 лет назад +1

      tehgreatvak I

    • @Tallmios
      @Tallmios 7 лет назад +43

      Full-auto capability is the last thing Glaz is missing right now.

    • @solomongumball971
      @solomongumball971 7 лет назад +2

      tehgreatvak
      Kinda pointless for a d.m.r. if you ask me.

    • @MaCabaret
      @MaCabaret 7 лет назад +1

      Solomon Gumball penis

  • @Eggomania86
    @Eggomania86 6 лет назад +14

    Funny thing is, the SVD is a very prolific rifle can be found all over the world and some places fairly inexpensive. To buy one here in the United States it costs a small fortune.

    • @jeremymcadam7400
      @jeremymcadam7400 Год назад +2

      Lol, in Australia pretty much every interesting gun costs a small fortune.

    • @Darthdoodoo
      @Darthdoodoo Год назад +1

      I got 3 in syria for a goat and 3 Snickers bars 😂😂

  • @kyleshady21
    @kyleshady21 7 лет назад +169

    The machining and coating on the receiver is much better on the military SVD.

    • @emperorspock3506
      @emperorspock3506 7 лет назад +42

      Yeah, the drop in finish in the commercial gun is staggering and it's a pain to look at. The Soviet military one is absolutely gorgeous.

    •  7 лет назад +1

      The tigr is just the latest variant but civilian, the contemporary military versions are the same except some small details like gas system, barrel lenght and rear sight leaf.

    • @oluenionloppu
      @oluenionloppu 7 лет назад +12

      i thought that while looking at the bolt carrier. the tiger looks so crued, and the military one just shines

    • @1awrenceofarabia
      @1awrenceofarabia 7 лет назад +2

      It also has a chrome lined carrier (and potentially bolt but we didn't see it).

    • @bigbigmurphy
      @bigbigmurphy 7 лет назад

      Looks re-parkerized to me. As far as I can tell, SVD and Tigr had the same finish, not great looking but what do you expect from soviet Russia?

  • @PhunkieZero
    @PhunkieZero 6 лет назад +17

    The Dragunov is one of my favorite marksman rifles, I'd love to own one (or one of the similar guns like the Tiger)

  • @cassidybrash4243
    @cassidybrash4243 4 года назад +98

    6:15 "And then the Chinese copied the SVD..." Ah, the classic chinese design strat.

    • @Culture1911
      @Culture1911 4 года назад +3

      @@rastas_4221 Google Type 56

    • @untouchableE2IN
      @untouchableE2IN 4 года назад +2

      @@Culture1911 Type 56 was modelled after SKS iirc

    • @yangzhao4691
      @yangzhao4691 3 года назад +4

      @@noxous582 do some research, Russians authorized them to manufacture...

    • @elijahgalanis4784
      @elijahgalanis4784 3 года назад

      @@yangzhao4691 its a joke

    • @yangzhao4691
      @yangzhao4691 3 года назад +2

      @@elijahgalanis4784 Why is it a joke?

  • @CrashFactory666
    @CrashFactory666 7 лет назад +37

    Such a sexy gun. It's shame I am stuck owning its kinda dumpy cousin the PSL. Oh well, a 5 is still better than a 0.

  • @BartBe
    @BartBe 7 лет назад +2

    Coming home late from a days work, pour myself a whiskey and see Ian has a video of my favorite rifle. life can be sweet sometimes...

  • @nerome619
    @nerome619 7 лет назад +282

    Dammnit another bedtime delaying video!

  • @thierrych.1071
    @thierrych.1071 Год назад

    Your channel is a real treasure. Every question I have about weapons are answered here. Just wondering why it was not recommended before... The Dragunov is a collectable, I love the look of the wooden one, a piece of history.

  • @nuraly78
    @nuraly78 7 лет назад +4

    Thank you for the great video. as far as I know, there is also one major difference between those rifles - barrel twist. SVD has 240mm, while Tiger has 320mm twist.

  • @icu_corey_rn_903
    @icu_corey_rn_903 5 лет назад +1

    Can’t get enough of this channel

  • @quik478
    @quik478 6 лет назад +10

    SVD and Tiger have a different barrel twist(240mm for SVD since 1969 and 320mm for Tiger since 1995/280mm for some export variations) so Tiger can't shoot AP bullets. And there's some other 15 differences.

    • @jeremymcadam7400
      @jeremymcadam7400 Год назад

      Interesting. Does the tiger stabilise 180 grain bullets?

  • @montlejohnbojangles8937
    @montlejohnbojangles8937 7 лет назад

    I actually love this show. No politics, no bullshit chest-thumping, just information and well researched pieces.

  • @mavyboyy
    @mavyboyy 7 лет назад +39

    The machining on the Russian Military one is so much better then the other two, wow.

    • @Clay3613
      @Clay3613 7 лет назад +2

      Functionality is probably the same though.

    • @mavyboyy
      @mavyboyy 7 лет назад +13

      Clay3613 well yeah about 95 percent same functionality. But the Russian SVD is so clean, no tool marks anywhere

  • @tedkier3264
    @tedkier3264 6 лет назад

    thank you for posting this..Ian.and thank you for interspersing the word of safety with the word of old arms.

  • @PunishedDrDank
    @PunishedDrDank 7 лет назад +21

    If you ever get a hold of one, you should do a review of the SVU Dragunov.

    • @kalashloy4179
      @kalashloy4179 7 лет назад +20

      I get to hold one, a SVU OTS-03 variant at a defense expo at Kuala Lumpur last year at the Russian's KBP instrument booth. But sadly I'm not as knowledgeable and linguistically good as Ian is not to mention the folks at the booth even tho friendly and enthusiastic, but are having language barrier with us. So all i get to do is took a photo, lol
      facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=247714878914276&l=58c232e348 here a picture of me holding the gun, too bad it wasn't available to purchase by the civvies :'P

  • @duncandrake
    @duncandrake 6 лет назад +1

    Very detailed comparison of one of the coolest guns ever. Thank you for this

  • @EmperorFett
    @EmperorFett 7 лет назад +3

    Definitely going to become a patron, this channel is gold

  • @Aggrop0p
    @Aggrop0p 7 лет назад +143

    Great rifle, love it. Any chance of doing a video on the VSS Vintorez / AS Val, btw? I know they're rare, but if anyone can get their hand on one it's gotta be GJ.

    • @yaboosnubs
      @yaboosnubs 7 лет назад +17

      Aggropop it's not so simple to just get a 9x39 gun. when enitre world will use laser weapons and 7,62x54r won't be produced anymore maybe then russia will make some exportable.

    • @medievileable
      @medievileable 7 лет назад +2

      Aggropop that would absolutely blow my mind
      Also, I'm not too familiar with the USA's import laws when it comes to guns, but wouldn't
      it be more difficult to bring in a weapon with an integrated suppressor?

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 7 лет назад +3

      They are as far as i know not sold commercially

    • @CzornyLisek
      @CzornyLisek 7 лет назад +15

      Specnaz is just one of maaany groups.
      Specnaz was officially(correctly) part of GRU. Nowadays IDK if Specnaz as unit still exist as GRU was restructured into Main Directorate of the Russian General Chief of Staff.
      In spoken slang language... then specnaz mean anything from shock troops to elite special forces.

    • @jjtomecek1623
      @jjtomecek1623 7 лет назад +15

      I heard that even within the Russian Spetsnaz, they are still very rarely used. They're pretty much saved for just very specific missions, although they're very popular amongst Spetsnaz operators.

  • @thegoldencaulk2742
    @thegoldencaulk2742 7 лет назад +547

    Dragunov is sex.
    No wait, Dragunov is better.

    • @killerskillet
      @killerskillet 7 лет назад +33

      You might be having sex wrong.

    • @floridaarmyvet3613
      @floridaarmyvet3613 7 лет назад +3

      TheGoldenCaulk Why doesn't a company make these again? I would buy one or 2

    • @kennya90j
      @kennya90j 7 лет назад +32

      killerskillet This is a *Soviet* rifle. This means that your impeccable logic is inverted and you're shooting your Dragunov wrong.

    • @kennya90j
      @kennya90j 7 лет назад +4

      Alex C Definitely gulag.

    • @humansvd3269
      @humansvd3269 7 лет назад +1

      Florida*ARMY*VET expensive to tool, not really a big demand when most people would buy something else in the dragunov category. Making an affordable psl would be nice but again, not a big demand for it.

  • @ultimentra
    @ultimentra 7 лет назад +1

    OMG I WANT ALL 3. Thanks for the vid Ian! Dragunovs are such cool guns.

  • @wkins
    @wkins 6 лет назад +81

    You should do an April fools video where you take a look at the Daisy BB gun

    • @Magic_Milkshake
      @Magic_Milkshake 3 года назад

      I used to shoot that one at cadets. My arms hurt for days after pumping that bitch

    • @danbell3827
      @danbell3827 3 года назад

      @@Magic_Milkshake The 853c? Those pump arms were brutal, but that thing was sweet to shoot. I would love to get my hands on one nowadays, but they cost over $800 last I saw, and that was 15 years ago. Too much for just a target plinker toy, unfortunately.

  • @PRACERZ
    @PRACERZ 7 лет назад

    As always , another great vid Ian ! Thank you very much .

  • @rwilliams_2465
    @rwilliams_2465 4 года назад +12

    "Corporation wants you to tell the difference between these three pictures."
    "They're the same picture."

  • @gatlin1320
    @gatlin1320 Год назад +2

    The way Ian had to plainly state “There are no full auto versions of the Dragunov” made me chuckle a bit.

  • @Corristo89
    @Corristo89 7 лет назад +16

    The Americans already had experience when it came to tying in snipers with regular army units instead of sending them out on their own. The commander on the spot could say "sniper front!" when they encountered something like a machine gun nest. The sniper could find an angle on the machine gunner and take him out from a distance and pave the way for the other soldiers. And the days of long-range single-shot rifle fire were simply over when WW2 was taking place. Combat took place at ranges of a few meters to maybe one or two hundred. Having an insanely accurate rifle capable of firing over a kilometer wasn't necessary anymore. The Soviets understood that change in warfare. The "normal" sniper with a rifle capable of exceeding ranges of over a kilometer still has his role, but more as an independent unit sent to take out specific targets (officers, military equipment, etc.)

  • @spendymcspendy
    @spendymcspendy 7 лет назад

    Love this video! Absolutely awesome detail into the SVD/Tigr/Dragunov/Tiger/NDM-86!

  • @jna3341
    @jna3341 7 лет назад +166

    Should US Army ditch the normal uppers for M4s for Can Cannons and use Pepsi cans?

    • @kennya90j
      @kennya90j 7 лет назад +86

      Etunimi Sukunimi I believe that firing Pepsi at the enemies of our glorious republic would count as chemical warfare...

    • @markstevens4599
      @markstevens4599 7 лет назад +28

      Nay, it is spreading capitalism! err... I mean freedom!

    • @mortarpestle.4267
      @mortarpestle.4267 7 лет назад +24

      The only problem with that is that all the ammo is manufactured in China.

    • @jordanstetka2992
      @jordanstetka2992 6 лет назад +1

      sam hyde fanbasee lmao

    • @SentokuLC
      @SentokuLC 6 лет назад +2

      Bepis

  • @hadesomegamoto7639
    @hadesomegamoto7639 6 лет назад +8

    Very cool the Dragunov is one of my favorite rifles. The bolt and gas system remind me of the SKS. I can't afford a Dragunov so I had to settle for the PSL.

  • @binbashbuddy
    @binbashbuddy 7 лет назад +17

    So the ATF required absolutely pointless changes? Dang, who would have thunk it?

  • @Crystal-jr7lp
    @Crystal-jr7lp 3 года назад +1

    Your channel is amazing. Thank you.

  • @teppokuusisto144
    @teppokuusisto144 7 лет назад +7

    "Draculas" job is to protect "PoKeMon" (SVD - PKM).
    It gives DMR supportfire for mg-shooter in the Russian squad of infantry.
    Finnish paratroopers use it as a ironbar.

  • @a8s320
    @a8s320 3 года назад

    You, my Sir, are the most weapon knowledgeable youtuber with the best videos. Exactly the depth real enthusiasts (not just gun hoarders) love! 👍👍👍👍

  • @ETHRON1
    @ETHRON1 5 лет назад +4

    Way cool. As always I learned something new today.

  • @ELITEWAFFLES9
    @ELITEWAFFLES9 7 лет назад +1

    Great video as always! the only inaccuracy I noticed was that you said there is no fully automatic Dragunov rifle produced when, in fact, there is. The SVU-A is a bullpup variant, currently made in Russia, that is capable of select fire.

  • @bfgmovies
    @bfgmovies 7 лет назад +57

    few things wrong /omitted here as well as some notes.
    A) probably more than 1000 tigrs. considering there is a known number of Californian Tigrs (700) and these are considered the rare Tigr variant, usually demanding almost twice as much as a stock Tigr.
    B) There are select fire SVDs made, called the OTs-03A,
    C) Only the 54R tigrs were imported into the U.S, the other calibers are only available in other countries who didn't/don't have bans on SVD imports or sanctions on Izhmash / Kalashnikov Concern.
    D) The Californian Tigr has more than just the military FSB compared to other imported models. The furniture is also 90s era, military furniture. Polymer hand-guards were standardized in 1991. The other commercial Tigr imports came in with sporterized furniture. The black hand-guards are smooth and do not have the ventilation holes and the stocks didn't have the same sling loop and were more sporter in style. Only the Californian Tigrs were imported with the military furniture.
    E) NDMs did come with gas regulators but they needed to be drilled to work as regulators.
    F) Military Gas regulators can be installed on the Tigrs as well.
    G) The Tigr bolt carrier is merely just a modern SVD carrier. The change was done in the early 90s with the SVD-S and carried over to modern military SVD rifles as well.
    H)The lightening cuts on Military SVDs were changed in 1993. They started cutting them on the inside of the receiver instead of on the outside. Same with the Tigr, if you look on the inside, you will see that there is a lightening cut on the inside of the receiver. The tigr just as the receiver of a post 1993 SVD. if you look at pictures of modern SVDs, like the KBI military imports, or the SVD-S. They all have slab side receivers. So just a bit of omitted info there.
    I) AGAIN, the polymer hand-guards on the Californian Tigrs are military. The Russian military started using polymer hand-guards in 1991. in the late 90s they started production of a polymer butt-stock as well. Wood is no longer made for any new manufacture SVD in Russia.

  • @hawkstable8889
    @hawkstable8889 4 года назад +3

    7:12 the SVU bullpup version has a fully automatic variant.

  • @dandel351
    @dandel351 7 лет назад

    Excellent video Ian , very informative. Thanks a lot for making this video great job as always.

  • @abnorcscreenname8489
    @abnorcscreenname8489 6 лет назад +28

    "There is no soviet union anymore."
    Too soon.

  • @pessimistmaximus5731
    @pessimistmaximus5731 7 лет назад

    Oh boy it's 10 pm. I never really looked into these rifles before this but now I'm impressed by them.

  • @TheREALAvengerr
    @TheREALAvengerr 7 лет назад +18

    The SVD is my favourite rifle of all time. Not sure why, I just love the look of it. Been wanting to fire one for years, but unfortunately they're prohibited in Canada because they look like an AK, despite, as you said, no parts can be interchanged.

    • @BRBMrSoul
      @BRBMrSoul 2 года назад +2

      Oh but you might startle someone cos it’s scary looking…at a target range…or on crown land by yourself sighting it in…couldn’t have that could we? Or admission no more or less deadly than any other rifle lol

  • @BaguetteShooter
    @BaguetteShooter 7 лет назад

    ( Izhmash Dragunov owner here )
    I read a lot of comments about differents " SVDs " on the market, the
    original russian SVD, the chinese copy SDM86 or the romanian PSL. In
    fact the PSL is more a big AK than a copy of the SVD. The accuracy on
    these 3 rifles are similar even if the SVD is twice the price of the PSL
    ( as a brand new rifle, 1200 euros in Europe for the PSL and 2500 euros
    for the SVD in 7,62x54R / barrel of 650mm ). That's why the PSL is the
    best choice. In term of mechanism, SVD and its chinese copy are piston
    operated, the PSL is directly gas-operated. SVD body is enterely CNC
    machined ( rail for the scope included ) while the chinese copy has the
    rail riveted. The PSL is more a stamped / riveted rifle. The SVD is more
    well finished.
    It seems that you guys in US can't import russians weapons, so you don't
    have the choice, but the PSL is a very good DMR with very high
    reliability and a cheap ammo cost. If you're interested by this rifle,
    don't hesitate, you will be not disapointed.
    All new SVDs made by Izhmash are now called Tigr ( and no " Tiger " like said in the video ). The only difference between a civilan Tigr / SVD and a military SVD in term of appearance is the bayonet mount under the muzzle break, presents on the military version and missing on a civilan SVD ( like mine ). Maybe the civilan version is more well finished too. The video said that military version has been made only in 7,62x54R, in fact .308 version has been sold too for army. The 2-positions gas selector is available only for 650mm barrel versions.
    If guys interested here, I can scan the manual of my russian SVD ...
    Very nice video btw and nice disassembly to show how the mechanism is.
    My SVD : ruclips.net/video/4rcqsVYqM2Y/видео.html

  • @mafistowaltz4857
    @mafistowaltz4857 5 лет назад +6

    OH My God!
    I wish I could own that Soviet Drag,, Holy shit
    This is EPIC!

  • @PokemonHaloFan
    @PokemonHaloFan 7 лет назад

    The Dragonov is just such a cool looking rifle. The curve of the forward handguard in particular is just so cool.

  • @Excited_shrimp
    @Excited_shrimp 7 лет назад +10

    I feel bad that Ian has to correct his mistakes because people are trolls. We all know he knows what he is talking about. Bless gun Jesus!

  • @clockworkpotato
    @clockworkpotato 3 года назад

    You are the best! Your videos are detailed and are made with a lot of competence.

  • @RogueRAZR
    @RogueRAZR 4 года назад +22

    Always makes me laugh when an organization like the ATF, removes a safety mechanism because the same system is used on Autos. An out of battery safety is actually a pretty good idea, even on a Semi auto. Just because some rifles tend to explode when firing out of battery.

  • @yasnevo
    @yasnevo 6 лет назад

    Summer of 1993 I worked for B-West Imports of Tucson. We received a Tiger from IZHMASH... and... not knowing better... I was testing the gun with Lapua 7.62x54R ammo... and the primers were, as you can guess soft... and after about 10 or so rounds into firing I had a round go of out of battery... the bolt carrier was undamaged, the bolt head was slightly bent up. However, the tiger receiver was undamaged. The receiver top cover was slightly damaged and need to be replaced. I wrote a complete report to the factory and they sent replacements together with a spring loaded firing pin bolt...

  • @ung427
    @ung427 4 года назад +4

    Wow, real Dragunov rifles. when I die, I would love to have recurring spontaneous existences in random rooms with tables like these.. full of the coolest firearms in existence..

  • @bvrcavalera2786
    @bvrcavalera2786 3 года назад

    Yes mate! Got to shoot one of these at Prague Armory. Proper old one as well. The sight reticle was proper decent. Lovely bit of kit.

  • @gkarjala
    @gkarjala 7 лет назад +5

    As a former AK salesman, i always thought the dragonov was an AK variant. They do look similar, AK has Dragonov furniture but closer inspection reveals the difference. Thx for this vid, there was no internet, let alone you tube in my day. Way better than the " Fubar Rifle " of earlier vid. lol

  • @Daero1
    @Daero1 7 лет назад +1

    This man is *seriously* knowledgable on firearms

  • @Aravzil
    @Aravzil 7 лет назад +5

    I really hope you get your hands on a VSS Vintorez one day!

  • @henryrudolph1952
    @henryrudolph1952 4 года назад +1

    Cannot stress the importance of this clip! Guns are so important to mankind, Especially guns that do mass destruction they must be built. BIG THANK YOU, America, Russia, England, Canada, France, Israel and any other country that manufacture guns. You do mankind a great service by selling guns to third world countries, countries that love war or simply love guns. Remember this 'GUNS, WAR, AND NATURAL DISASTROUS ARE TO MANKIND, WHAT THE 'PILL' IS TO BIRTH CONTROL'.

  • @1337Jogi
    @1337Jogi 7 лет назад +5

    These are beautiful weapons.

  • @DjAboo1
    @DjAboo1 7 лет назад

    Ian answered thanks. What I meant was are sub minute groups possible. Came to find out Black Horse Arsenal has a version that is capable with the right ammo.

  • @michaelpytel3280
    @michaelpytel3280 7 лет назад +4

    Dragunov Rifles were used in G.I. Joe as the weapons of Cobra ( The Enemy ) Trooper
    in the 1982 toys. But The Cobra Officers used AK -47s.

  • @alexharshman7025
    @alexharshman7025 7 лет назад

    Love the svd, will never forget. My first firearm was a maybe not mosin but possibly Chinese, carbine, bolt action 7.62x54, synthetic stock, scope rail and front site, the bayonet was pull (spring hinge thing) swing out and forward lock. My first target was a paper with Osamas face, and I had no problems hitting my target with only a front site, so much fun that first box of rounds was :)

  • @Chris-pb3se
    @Chris-pb3se 3 года назад +13

    Definitely Soviet. Looks like it was meant to disassemble with mittens on and a rock, in sub zero temps without spilling your vodka

  • @BC-wj8fx
    @BC-wj8fx 3 года назад

    Practically no difference Ian? I bought the Tigr with dreams of sourcing or duplicating the 7N1 sniper load with a 152gr bullet. Turns out the Tigr has a radically different twist rate suited to 203gr bullets. I tried every commercial and milsurp load available, and the only one that grouped was Barnaul 203gr. 3 shots often sub MOA at 100 metres. Sometimes 5 shots within MOA, but by the 4th shot the barrel heat always started to open it up. Anyway, the whole draw of the SVD system was the scope-rifle combination, where a known (and accurate) cartridge is matched to the bullet-drop-compensated scope. No need to calculate ballistics or count clicks, just set it to the range and fire. This falls flat when you have a 203gr bullet traveling slower (since its heavier, and due to shorter barrel) and with different BC. Making the BDC scope more of a pain than useful, much past 100 metres. So no, in practical terms, HUGE difference. Still a brilliant rifle, 100.000% reliable.

  • @Professionalpatternrecognizer
    @Professionalpatternrecognizer 7 лет назад +275

    The Soviet Union does still exist, they just moved to Berkley

    • @Rin-sj8ii
      @Rin-sj8ii 6 лет назад +2

      Jason Stroppa lmaoo

    • @gens0kyo
      @gens0kyo 6 лет назад +1

      Jason Stroppa lmao

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange 6 лет назад +2

      Jason Stroppa
      O o f

    • @jackknighttheoriginal1956
      @jackknighttheoriginal1956 6 лет назад +7

      No. You have California idiots, and you have true communists. Never the twain shall meet.

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 6 лет назад +12

      Golly. It's almost exactly like Jason doesn't know the difference between Stalinism and American Representative Democracy. One might think he's never spent time in either the USSR, OR Berkeley.

  • @spectra7gaming471
    @spectra7gaming471 2 года назад

    13:50 Are you saying that this was a safety but also is used with assisting automatic weapons firing?

  • @AgentSmartnumber86
    @AgentSmartnumber86 5 лет назад +6

    So this is the whole reason why all of my cobra troopers come with svd dragonavs

  • @mikemiller7357
    @mikemiller7357 7 лет назад

    Very informative Ian...well done

  • @johnarbuckle6583
    @johnarbuckle6583 7 лет назад +57

    Ok, so I don't know if its because "tiger" is in the title of the video, but all the videos in my recommended feed are all a out tigers now...

    • @MrGreghome
      @MrGreghome 7 лет назад +16

      tiegers, elefants, gepards, panthers, what next? Maus?

    • @gennaroita1690
      @gennaroita1690 6 лет назад

      epic

  • @anttikristian
    @anttikristian 3 года назад +1

    I had the privilidge to be a part of an Finnish army's guerilla-sniper-squad and our sniper had Dragunov as a service weapon. About 20 to 40 guerilladragunov-snipers per year was trained back at early 2000's, nowadays I think there is only 1-3 per year in very special units and squads that need durability and shorter sniper rifle than Sako made rifle is.

  • @MascheraDiMorte
    @MascheraDiMorte 7 лет назад +4

    What a great vid to wake up to.

  • @bigbigmurphy
    @bigbigmurphy 7 лет назад

    Looks like the SVD was re-parkerized. That Tigr got rust inside the flash hider, wonder if the flash hider was bought second handed or the owner shot corrosive ammo through it. The NDM-86 seems like a simply capture-reverse engineered copy, nothing fancy going on there. I have the very original furniture on my Tigr, a polymer hand guard without ventilation holes; a sporter buttstock with rubber pad and only a big thumb hole which only right handed user can shoot comfortably. I put polymer handguard and buttstock onto it for the sake of reduced the maintenance on wood stuff. but the red wood furniture does add a lot of statics to the gun. Ian, can you guy do a episode on how to use the PSO-1 scope? Thanks.

  • @Kurkulio
    @Kurkulio 7 лет назад +3

    You look at the Chinese, how it was made with a file so it was roughly made. Soviet SVD beauty. Thank you, you Americans know a lot about weapons.

  • @poolshark3876
    @poolshark3876 3 года назад

    Awesome Rifles great information as always

  • @elliotalderson8358
    @elliotalderson8358 5 лет назад +7

    This is my all time favorite gun. Its just so fucking russian and its beautiful. Everything about it

  • @RHD919
    @RHD919 5 лет назад +1

    Without a doubt one of the top items on my list to pickup one day. Would love a legit svd but a tiger or ndm will scratch the itch.

  • @TimCools_WithALongO
    @TimCools_WithALongO 4 года назад +32

    "Sorry, in Russia (there is no Soviet Union anymore...)"
    Me: [Presses and holds F]

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 4 года назад

      The Ottomans have fallen then the Brits then the Soviets then the States will fall then the Chinese it's only natural, that's what Ibn Khaldun taught us

    • @tsundokus
      @tsundokus 4 года назад

      @@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx honestly i see the Chinese going down before the USA. The one to really look out for is france they are back to their colonial ways in africa and influence in europe

    • @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx
      @ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx 4 года назад

      @@tsundokus lol of colonialism was still viable all of europe would still have colonies.

  • @tonyclark2020
    @tonyclark2020 3 года назад +2

    I know it's a small nitpick, but I like how if you mess up on a detail- you at least throw in captions that correct it. A lot of other people that I watch don't bother doing this. Which just gives me the impression that they just throw the videos up without even bothering to watch it first. Good job. Keep the great content coming!