What is this Weapon Presents: Antiques Gunshow with Ian McCollum and Jonathan Ferguson
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- Six firearms go head-to-head in this week's episode, as Forgotten Weapon's Ian McCollum and our very own Keeper of Firearms & Artillery Jonathan Ferguson battle it out to prove they can find the slightly weirder firearms in our collection.
If you had free rein in the National Firearms Centre, which weapons would you pick? Let us know in the comments.
0:00 Intro
0:20 Rules of the Game
1:06 Cue Montage
1:25 Round 1: Primary Weapon
1:40 Charlton Automatic Rifle
5:07 Sterling Rifle
6:55 Round 2: Sidearm
7:20 Schwarzlose Model 1898
9:40 Mars .45 Automatic Pistol
12:50 Round 3: Secondary Weapon
13:51 SA80
14:35 Did Someone Say Book?
14:52 SA80 Continued
20:15 BSA Machine Carbine
26:05 Conclusion
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The Royal armories does not endorse any claims relating to the alleged burning of war materials by Australian persons following the second world war
It was really hard to read that in the video! Why?
@@TheZinmo Because they didn't want to make a scene, but wanted to cover themselves legally.
Thank you!
Thanks for posting. I spent a while trying to pause and search for the correct frame. I really didn't want to bother downloading and playing on a better player just to catch the right frame. Cheers
this what it said. Blame Australia. lol.
It's always a good day when Johathan and Ian get together.
Agreed
What is the flag in your pfp I've never seen it
@@skyhisurvivor4724 It's the flag of Limburg, a province of the Netherlands.
Who's Jonathan? Do you mean Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of firearms and artillary at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK which houses...?
A-yo
Ian proudly presenting the SA80 and Jonathan saying "explain yourself" was hilarious
I believe the british term would be Ian taking the piss out of Jonathan with that bit
To be fair guys I used a single action bolt version in cadets for 5years an 4 with the actual SA80 , U just have to clean em properly
@@BipoIarbear Cleaning them stops bits from breaking off?
@@BipoIarbear wait, cleaning them actually improves the design? I think H&K would like some words with you 🤣
@@WJS774 no 🤣 my my gas parts once hit the target at a 25 meter range better than all my rounds , yep they broke but U just deal with what U have
The SA-80 is a punk rock AR-18. I liked Mikhail Kalashnikov's quote when he was shown one: "You must have very clever soldiers."
😂😂😂
that quote went on with "Or very incompetent ones that favour complexities over simplicity"
and he's right the AK and it's family Mikhail created were simple in design and ergonomics. the AR family are complex and was built to tight tolerances. stress testing between the two systems have confirmed this. and price points match the Simplicity vs. complexity between them. with the former being very much a cheap gun but reliable.
first version of SA80 was pants, i barely killed anyone with mine
@@112-DavidLI’m not sure the AR family of guns are really “complex” - innovative and a departure from prior norms, certainly, but mechanically the AR isn’t THAT complex. An AK has about 70 parts, an AR about 120. Sure it has more bits and pieces, but the operation of the device is not by any means convoluted - gas pressure moves the bolt back into a tube with a spring in it. That’s not all that complicated, surely!
The SA in SA-80 stands for "sucks ass", as it is the worst service rifle anyone has ever devised.
Punk rock anything it most certainly is not.
"All the germans did was remake every single part to the correct spec and hardness." may be one of the funniest lines in the video.
Ha, well, it's true. A lot of work to change very little design-wise.
think about though, they didn't need to change piston length for instance, the bolt didn't suddenly has 5 lugs, and they didn't need to add more springs.
Changing the material, surface treatment, and tolerance support Johnatan's view that the changes was minor albeit they were done to most components.
Want a job done to the minimum requirement or less? Let Brits do it. Want a job done properly and precisely? Let Germans or Scandinavians do it.
Which is a bit sad if we think back 200 years where the Brits were definately the best.
@@hukama6911 if you have a weapon that breaks every time you breathe on it, and someone else makes a version that actually works. it's not a minor change.
@@PalleRasmussen the brits have been losing for the last 300 years but okay
Gun Jesus and _The_ Curator
Together… 🤝
This moment deserves a poster
Saying The Curator like that makes him sound like a marvel villain. I love it!
The Curator is one of Dr. Who's incarnations.
@@jaspermooren5883 If he popped up in the next John Wick film as the sommelier, I wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Keeper though, not curator
No, not a poster. They need to erect a statue of these 2 shaking hands, much like the Unification Monument from FNV.
Shooting the Mars pistol "singularly unplesant and alarming"
I actually lol'd
The most British way of saying this gun sucks to shoot
I cannot stress how much that description makes me want to fire one, just to see what the fuss is.
"Perfectly adequate is what we strive for on this Island" sent me 🤣
Johnathan's reaction to Ian walking up with a SA80 is gold.
“Please Explain urself!” 😂 poor Jonathan, he knew he was in for a world of embarrassment.
SA80 was the first gun I thought of what n Jonathan explained the rules tbh
Imagine being a squaddie who tabbed/yomped through Falklands with the L1A1, one of the rare objects that could be called squaddie-proof, the right arm of the Free World, designed by the scion of John Moses himself, and then in 1987 you get given an SA80.
@@hoilst265 What is even funnier is that the British switched to the Knights stoner 1 to have a more compatible rifle with the Americans. The Americans then switch and adopt the xm5. Which mind you is an expensive but funny joke within itself.
@@cubanreemachine9592britain hasn’t adopted the KS-1 the Marines and special forces units have and the US marines are still on the M4 and the US SF are also still on the M4
LMAO @ the SA80 "I feel like I'm being trolled."
So did the poor buggers who had to use it, I'm sure.
@@robking6975 Nope.. carried it on two opt tours.. never had a problem with it!
@felixthecat265 Question. Did you ever fire it? I mean it looks pretty😉😊
I just loved the fact Ian only just twigged he had the left handed version. 🤣😂🤣😂
And then "one of the requirements was guns that had no significant impact on development or use..." right after
I love how Mr. Ferguson ends the video holding what is basically better known as a Star Wars blaster than an actual firearm.
Ian: picks a complex and gritty looking lmg
Johnathan: stick with mag
TOOB!
Gun Jesus and the Royal Gun Curator - One of the best GunTuber collabs!!!
Thats 'Keeper of Firearms at the Royal Armoury -Jonathan Ferguson' and Gun Jesus
@@user-qj9ig6dn6x
Curator: a keeper or custodian of a museum or other collection.
"the curator of drawings at the National Gallery"
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Curator: a keeper or custodian of a museum or other collection.
@@user-qj9ig6dn6x Are you sure about the "fire" part? ;)
And such a wholesome bromance.
12:41 “shall we do some midsized guns?”
Jonathan already did that round with the mars
Midsized? My brother in Christ, that pistol is crew-served.
this is just therapy for Jonathan for what gamespot subjects him into
I simply LOVE the fact that even though they're both nerding out to an epic degree, neither of them has a gap in muzzle or trigger discipline. Even though they're pulling guns that are clearly unloaded (hell, some of them don't even have available ammunition anymore), they are both such consummate professionals that there's never any lapse of safety. Gotta say, I'm enamored.
enamored in the armory?
Okay, props to the editors for all the cheeky annotations and jokes!
Just the one editor actually ;)
@@RoyalArmouriesYou're awesome. Keep up the good work. You add so much to these videos.
@@RoyalArmouries Is that a hotfuzz reference? 😂
I love the anxiety Johnathan exhibits as Ian pulls out the SA80. Ian couldn't resist to troll, you gotta give it to him, it was a perfect opportunity.
My grandfather helped develop the Charlton Automatic Rifle. After there was interest in the prototype and it needed more development he wad give a crate of ammo and in his words was told "go try to blow it up" (I love kiwi engineering). So he took it out to Ocean Beach in Hawkes Bay where he lived and did just that.
Great video, I loved it,
Cheers guys.
No 8 Wire Engineering at its finest :)
Source?
so did he invent the Bren gun too or maybe the AR15
Him picking the left handed SA80 perfectly proves what you said in the video on it! When put on the spot most people will not notice the fact it is left handed.
Thought the same! If Ian didn’t notice it straight away then most other people definitely won’t
I thought the video was mirrored or something because there was some alarm bell ringing in my head saying something wasn't right 🤣
@@ash00sufc Ian is also left handed, as a lefty myself I wouldn't have noticed it just would have felt right
@@braindeadhoovy2562”this gun, it calls to me”
I was thinking the same thing lol
PLEASE make a podcast with Jonathan and Ian together, we NEED it.
That'd be amazing.
My God, yes.
The only podcast I'd actually subscribe to.
One where they both grab a favorite yet obscure firearm and just rants about them.
☕🐝🇺🇸
Like a monthly, trimestral, once every blue moon type deal would he nice, something that doesn't try to be a content mill but a treat.
I love the whole sequence of Ian bringing in the SA80 as a power move, only for him (a famously left-handed shooter) to miss that detail about that specific rifle.
Shooting the Mars pistol was described as "singularly unpleasant and alarming" What a nice way to describe the fear that it might explode in your hand
This is my petition to get Jonathan added as a Payday character, one does not simply wear a blazer and blue medical gloves and not rob jewellery stores
Plus you can make the Patchett look like that BSA gun in PD2.
Too bad payday3 sucks
it would definitely be more appropriate than the H3H3 people.
This is a really great video. Obviously I love both Jonathan and Ian, but the video as a whole is just really good. This was a fun concept and still very educational. I also feel like the camera work and just the overall quality of the videos on the channel has been steadily improving over time. Keep it up 👍
Thanks for the kind words, the people behind the scenes definitely read them :)
The way Ian says “Bloody hell” is just so British.
"HK would like to thank you for adopting this"
This here right on the spot
Ian is savage for choosing the SA80 haha
Literally kids in a sweet shop!😂😂😂❤
Bruh I did a double take as thought you said "kids in a sweatshop". ☠️
And if you're American that's a candy shop
@@paleoph6168Well them Chinese kids hard at work making the iPhone 16 😂
@@samholdsworth420 Candy _store,_ but you were on the right track
@PelvisResley No windows to jump out of to play on the trampolines outside. Such a shame really. It would be this centuries version of 'The Leaping Nuns' by Cook and Moore. 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Jonathan holding the Mars pistol looking like a genuine James Bond.
"Oh, bloody hell! This is the left-handed one!" Classic.
I LOL'ed as soon as I saw Ian with the SA-80
And it’s a left hand one
Jonathon's face at 3:45 is priceless. He can hear the King "harrumphing" in the back of his head...
Thanks for the time stamp. Almost killed myself trying to get it on my phone!
Back in the early 1990's as part of my job in a theatre as an armourer, I used to hire from BAPTY &Co. One day, wandering the warehouse, I came across crate loads of cool Star Wars guns!! Many were rubber moulded copies but there were several full metal versions converted from the original weapons. When I got to the office, to fill in the paperwork for a truck load of Martini Henri rifles I was hiring, they took out a 'blaster' and handed it to me, telling me it was the actual one used by Harrison Ford! I have no idea if there were several of these, or it was indeed the only one, but it was seriously cool to hold it!! They had a couple of those BSA type converted blasters too, which I also saw, but didn't get to play with. What an amazing place it was to visit back then. Times have very much changed now and I'm not sure you can just phone up with an order and rock up with a van anymore!! 😉
I can't imagine it's easy to get the two of you gentlemen together due to location and scheduling, but...I mean this is the discerning youtuber firearms enthusiast wet dream and all I want is more. You two have an easy and fun social chemistry, mixed with both a shared respect for both each others historical knowledge and familiarity with the saner aspects of modern gun culture. The genius here is making a competition! While you two would be incredible podcast hosts, having a lightly adversarial dynamic at play feeds my deeply culturally ingrained Yank mind in cheering for a hometown boy to stick one to the Brits (a feeling that has pervaded British/American military sensibilities for neigh on centuries now). I'm sure the Brits watching this are rooting for the ineffable Ferguson to take our brash American to task. I've committed the venial sin of RUclips comments by leaving this having only watched about 6 minutes in, but this is great content already and I'll be sharing this with all my buddies.
Had to edit this comment, when Ian rocked up with the SA-80 at 13:50 I actually spit out my drink.
There is something incredibly entertaining at watching two Experts simply being REALLY REALLY knowledgeable about their passions (even if you don't follow 100% of what they say).
"in the United States this is a pistol" I love that this came up in the rifle round, just shows how stupid the atf is
The ATF didn't make _that_ unconstitutional rule, they just enforce it.
You can blame both political parties in congress for that one.
@@Stevarooni Enforcing it is still unconstitutional even if they didn't make up rules based on arbitrary/inconsistent "interpretations", which they do
@@Stevarooni just so you know, you responded to the wrong person, at least I think you meant to respond to ashe
@@ashe1.070 At the time of the passage of the NFA 1934, Congress was Democrat-controlled (Senate: 60-35, House: 313-115).
I like how Ian started with a gun that perfectly fit the criteria, and then branched out for humor at the end, where Jonathan took the reverse path. Well done, gentlemen, I was smiling non-stop for the whole video!
Sometimes I forget that Ian McCollum is a writer/historian in his own right, and not just a guy who gets to borrow weird guns for youtube. Great video for highlighting the depth of knowledge they both have along with some friendly competition!
These collaborations of these 2 gun nerds are amazing. It is great that we have been getting more Johnathan and Ian videos together.
I kind of want to see Johnathan get some 3 gun training and get him out to run competitions like Ian with odd weapons.
Jonathan has been asked that before. He modestly admitted he doesn't have the skill or experience to really compete with people who have more opportunity to practice in the US or Finland or such.
@tarmaque thank you for your comment. I appreciate it. It is a good insight I obviously didn't catch before.
@@williamjeffersonclinton69 No problem. I just wish I remember which interview or AMA I saw that in. #needscitation
@@tarmaque no worries.
It's like watching two new friends awkwardly showing off their toys, until they get more comfortable and begin sharing facts about them and you can see them relax and really enjoy the experience.
I would love to see more of you two interacting in this format.
Damn, Royal Armouries YT Team, I believe you really stepped up your game with the editing, on-screen commenting etc. for this video. Excellently done!
Ian + Johathan, the keeper of firearms and artillery at The Royal- whatever + a high quality production = perfection
21:39 I love how Jonathan still manages to not point the barrel at Ian and instinctively "circles" the gun around his head
Rule One & it should be instinctive - then there's no need to worry, ever!😊
7:30
Fantastic, and absolute admirable gun control etiquette, no, sweeping, no finger on trigger, no pointing at each other, just a pleasure to watch
Would not expect less than immaculate firearms discipline and safety from the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries.
Basic discipline of all firearm handling, everyone should abide by it at all times, it's that simple.
What a time to be alive. The (propably) two most nerdy gun nerds nerding totally out on guns. Can we have that as a once a year THING? Maybe even with guests? I would be delighted. Thank you for being you (both of you). :)
They also have one just recently discussing video game guns. Honestly they could have unstructured discussion about anything and it would be worth a watch
See our Christmas Special video with both Ian and Jonathan if you haven't already ;)
This needs to be an ongoing series! It's captivating, amusing and the two of you have excellent chemistry!
the shot of Ian running at 1:07 just made my day 😆
One would hope they'd check his pockets when he leaves the building. Just in case.
Magazine on the side - "because Britain". Classic! :D
This one gives me all kinds of "Elbonia" sort of vibes and it's awesome...
The Charleton was Such A Wonderful Gun a dance was named after it almost twenty years BEFORE it was adopted!
Love this collab. I feel really sorry for Jonathan. That SA-80 pick from Ian was really the biggest troll. :D
As soon as Ian whipped out the Charlton rifle I was pretty stoked that he had a piece of NZ history in his hands.
I just love that these guys are doing these videos together.
I would like to think RUclips understands the educational and historical significance of these vids. But sadly I expect they don't.
little tidbit, but I absolutlely love how these two handle these weapons, even unloaded, making sure not to aim at each other, trying to avoid flagging, and holding them the correct way, no finger on the trigger unless to show a feature or something. By far some of the best Firearmtubers!
They're the only good firearms RUclipsrs.
BSA Machine Carbine:
“For the Rebellion!”
Darn, I carried one as a Rebel Fleet troopers at conventions.
FINALLY, I scrolled WAY too far down to find one!
It's just a detail but I really appreciate that they both very carefully move the guns around avoiding ever pointing them at each other. Way too many people on the Internet that ignore those basics
Yes, being professional, but also, they're on video, on RUclips, with comments, ... they wouldn't hear the end of it.
For every gun video there is at least one person in the comments screaming about trigger discipline lol. But if you start noticing it in Hollywood videos then it does begin to drive you mad too
@@extragoogleaccount6061 if you were ever in the military, it is a reflex.
@@extragoogleaccount6061 The gun safety rules are considered inviolable for a reason, even in as sterile an environment as a museum. Not to mention you never want to reinforce a bad habit like that, or you might end up doing it around live ammunition one day.
Fantastic, and absolute admirable gun control etiquette, no, sweeping, no finger on trigger, no pointing at each other, just a pleasure to watch
It's great to see these two together showing the fun side of guns, mechanics, and history
This is such a refreshing way to learn about historical firearms, please do more of these
The Schwarzlose 1898 is great. Had the honor to shoot one once & it was quite ergonomic (for my hands) and dead on accurate after 120 years. That for itself is awesome. PLus: We hadn't had a misfire the whole afternoon with it. NOt one.
Andreas Schwarzlose seems to have invented a few quite remarkable guns.
(The main MG Austria-Hungary used in WW1 was a Schwarzlose gun. And the blow forward pistols he invented also are strange and would have fit their criteria apart from adoption)
Ah, this was an amazing collab to watch. Poor Jonathan valiantly defending the SA80 against the onslaught of -facts- slander by Ian calls for both laughter and sympathy
It's nice to see Ian and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history making a video together!
" So many Actives",
love these guys and effort that goes into each Respective Channel.
Great Colab , thanks Ian and Jonathan 🤙
The quality of editing, sound, filming etc has been just constantly increasing here thanks to ol Fergy and his series (and of course the amazing team behind the camera). Id love to see you try and find ways to shoot these old wierd weapons. Especially if you're able to re-make one-off shooting models for weapons you dare not even consider dry firing.
Putting the video to 0.25 playback speed just to read the disclaimer was well worth it just to heard ominous activity in slowmo.
They sound hammered 🤣
If you don't use your phone but a form of computer with a keyboard, you can also pause (k) and use "," to go back or "." to go forward 1 single frame each time you hit that key.
I love how the word “pants” has to be translated for the slow Americans and then the British fella starts talking about all the “gubbins” 🤣
The most engaging game of firearm Top Trumps I have ever seen, by two people who get on in such a friendly way. Can we have more please!!
Man i love this trend of them collaborating. Its perfect synergy.
That was an unexpected treat seeing both Ian and Jonathan choosing these weapons. Thank you so much for making life a little brighter!
Hey, it’s Johnatan Ferguson, the Keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history!
Yes! The best duo in GunTube History is back!
This is the coolest crossover. Thank you both for being such humorous, fun historians. What a cool video
I love watching Jonathan and Ian...and moreso when they are together. The amount of knowledge between them and how they nerd out on the history of a weapon is absolutely wonderful.
Always a good day when Ian get's together with Jonathan Ferguson, the Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, which houses an iconic collection of thousands of weapons from throughout history.
I'm a simple man. I see Jonathan and Ian in the thumbnail, I will watch the video.
We need more of this duo!
Wow, that BSA Carabine is the most sci-fi looking thing I've seen in a loooong while, and is also gorgeous and shiny. LOVE IT! This entire video was awesome!
that is possibly the coolest button up ive ever seen....
This reminds me of the honorable, courteous, and expert duel between The Dread Pirate Roberts and Indigo Montoya. Both talented gentlemen..... and just as entertaining a scene. I had a blast watching this! Thank you very much gentlemen.
Jonathan: "I... am not left-handed!"
Yes! Take that Ian.
24:39 Just for a note the Rebells and the Empire use the Blaster. Imperial Navy personal used them in a few scenes
You're right! I'd forgotten that.
@@jonathanferguson1211 They can be seen being used by the Imperial prison guards in the Andor series.
When Gun Jesus and Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history get together the energy is awesome.
3:45... That stellar disclaimer that pops in for maybe two whole frames. LOL!
It is such a treat to see Jonathan and Ian Two gentlemen friends talking passionately together. Thank you for the collaboration👍
We need more of this with different criterias every few months or years. So much fun and has great educational value!
Definitely one of my favourite cross overs ever. As a non gun owner from a non gun-centric country, watching and listening to you talk shop about guns is just so interesting (and entertaining when Ian is trolling :-D....I mean c'mon expert level knowledge used for trolling - peak comedy).
Thank you both! Education you can only get by watching your videos. Thanks Ray
This is a fun colab. If Othias ever gets a chance to visit there I would like to see him find something wacky
The knowledge and insights of these two individuals is nothing short of stunning, two incredibly well-read and well-spoken historians. We have the foundation of what could be a very worthwhile ongoing program.
I love the way that both of them handle all the guns like they're loaded unless they have checked otherwise.
Even when it's a ridiculous pistol from the 1890s that has just one fireable cartridge left, known to both of them to be stored at a completely different site!
"Australian persons"? LOL!
Love those two
I've never been more happy to see two people in the same room
You don't watch much porn, do you?
This needs to be a regular series. Well done chaps
Stop I can only be so excited for the future
Jonathan's shirt isn't getting enough appreciation. I am genuinely jealous of that drip.
My Brain: Hey, why does that weird SMG look familiar?
Johnathan: ...it was used as the design inspiration for the OG Rebel blaster.
My Brain: Thank you! I'm glad to know I wasn't crazy.
A measure of how pathetic my life is: as soon as they came on camera, I said aloud "where did Jonathan get a BlasTech DH-17?" 🤣
When this popped up on my RUclips home page I literally said "Oh I've GOT to see this!"
And it did not disappoint.
This video is very neatly edited together, and the content is great, because the hosts (and the material) are!
Hope you two will link up again for future content! Thanks, guys.
Presumably this means there was no H&K G11 avaliable. It looks like a camera bolted to a particle beam accelerator, functions like a pocketwatch, entirely deadended two entire concepts of military development, and got accepted by the Bundeswehr before the initial order was canned. It's like the rules of the game were built for it.
That gun is only found in the H&K “Grey Room”. Jonathan would probably give a kidney to have one in the Royal Armories collection. He has a wooden prop version though 😅
I love the millisecond disclaimer that flashed on screen!
The description provided of the Mars is the most British saying ever.
Ian McCollum and Jonathan Ferguson are prime candidates for the best internet bromance