Firearms Expert’s MOST CURSED Weapons Of 2023
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- Jonathan Ferguson, a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, breaks down some of the most cursed weapons of 2023, including the Budget Arms from Cyberpunk 2077, the horrifying Finger Gun from Remnant 2, and to Jonathan’s absolute disgust, a pump-action MP5 from Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades. Oh, and Call of Duty features as well, because it has to.
00:00 - Intro
00:52 - Khvostov 7G-02 (Destiny 2)
02:36 - Pump-Action MP5 (Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades)
03:45 - Budget Arms (Cyberpunk 2077)
06:59 - Pink Derringer (DayZ)
09:08 - FU AK (BattleBit Remastered)
10:41 - Space Cat PP-Bizon (Counter-Strike 2)
12:10 - Old Earth Pistol - 1911 (Starfield)
14:52 - 9MM AR15 (COD Modern Warfare 3 2023)
15:54 - Finger Gun (Remnant 2)
17:14 - Koraxis’s Distress (Destiny 2)
In the latest video in the Firearm Expert Reacts series, Jonathan Ferguson--a weapons expert and Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries--breaks down some of the most cursed weapons he’s seen across the past year.
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Hi everyone! Happy holidays and the happiest of New Years to you from Jonathan and all of us at GameSpot.
Thanks for sharing another year of bizarre video game weaponry with us. For more of that be sure to check out our new series of Loadout, there's already 3 episodes for you to enjoy about SMGs, the RPG-7 and the Thompson.
We will see you in 2024 for more blessed/cursed/blursed video game guns.
Your welcome good sir 😅
You're welcome, Dave
great year of experts react. evolutionary biologist reacts to video game creatures when?
Please stop using so much plastic for everything going back to five minutes in the video. We need less of it in the world.I am no expert but we need to find ways around the types of plastic and other materials.
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Babe wake up the new “Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of firearms and artillery at royal armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history” just dropped.
I read this as he was saying it and it was perfect
Dead meme
Museums are full of dead things and yet people are still interested@@GabeTheGrump
Man I love seeing videos that include "Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armouries museum in the UK, wich houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history" they make my day
@@GabeTheGrumplike your love life
"Warranty valid for 20 rounds" on the side of a 32 round disposable machine pistol is a wonderful cyberpunk choice
The single best Easter Egg in Cyberpunk.
Truly genius and a good laugh.
I thought it was the fact that a warranty on a vending machine gun was even implied was the best dystopian cyberpunk choice.
God I love this game
I want to see Ferguson design his own fictional gun for a movie or video game
The MP5 in H3 was called the "MP5 Shadow" and it's a reference to Shadow the Hedgehog. Because in a cutscene he had an MP5 and cocked it like a shotgun.
Ow the edge
Don't forget that he also twisted and then tapped the magazine after inserting it.
Yeah, that would be the title screen cutscene.
I love that game (and have unlocked expert mode a total of three times), but I did wonder about that since that was the first time I'd ever seen an SMG cocked like that. And later found out that no, that's not how that works.
I think Jonathan should take a look at that game if he hasn't already. Nice mix of real and fantasy guns to look at (including the glorious Shadow Rifle).
@@jessegd6306 Tapped yes, twisted no. He twists his hand _around_ it, probably meant as a test of the fit, but the mag itself doesn't twist. I've seen that intro many, many, many, many times and I did not recall the magazine twisting, and I double-checked before writing this comment just to be extra-sure.
The pump action MP 5 was too much for poor Jonathan 😂
So much that He had to get his emotional support MP5.
better never show him what uk shooting ranges have to do to their ar15s. He´d probably drop dead on the spot
What happens to MP5s when they go to California.
God, someone needs to show him the first 10 seconds of the Shadow the Hedgehog opening cinematic.
@@IBrowneeI Actually entire game would do.
"Heresy. Heresy. More MP5 Heresy."
Didn't know Johnathan is an Inquisitor for the Imperium and part of Ordo MP5
He's the chief inquisitor of the Ordo Subachineus Gunus. He specialises in MP5 heresy
He speaks the Omnissiah's truth
Blessed be the Omnissiah's' MP5 STC
"Fetch the Mp5, brother. THE HEAVY MP5!!!!"
"By the Emperor... no... Not the MC51..." 😱
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If I ever meet this man I'll say 'Hello Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history' just to see how he'll react.
he probably gets it all the time from fans
Given he's British, he'd probably a) sigh deeply, pause, stare at the ground while he let the murderous rage subside, and then march off while muttering obscenities or b) smile wryly and tip his cap/beer at you.
It'd all depend if it was Monday morning or Friday afternoon.
@@peterclarke7006 ... and if you provided the beer.
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Halfway through, he’d probably start laughing, then applaud your ability to memorize and recite the whole line verbatim upon completion.
The sheer horror and disgust on Johnathan's face whenever someone messes with his beloved MP5 will never not be priceless.
It's his emotional support submachine gun!
There needs to be one that’s a lever action with the trigger like that cursed AK 47
@@tacomas9602 I want a break action, single shot MP5.
Jonathan: "what? its just an ordinary MP-"
*pumps*
Jonathan: "OH MY GOODNESS"
I imagine Jonathan as an arcane gun wizard that no longer leaves the Royal Armoury out of fear for the cursed guns that upstart mortals have created.
Apparently when that camera isn’t on he just rocks back and forth with his beloved emotional support stg 🤷🏻♂️
lol
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@@anthonyslaughter4689😂😂 spot on
the budget arms cyberpunk disposable plastic gun is so funny. it is "cursed" in a way, but god do i love it and it fits so well in a cyberpunk dystopia post-collapse-of-USA setting
Everybody will think that it's a toy gun.
But with REAL bullets.
The Pump-Action MP5 is a reference to Shadow the Hedgehog's opening video where Shadow pumps the grip of an MP5.
I believe the gun in HH&H is called the MP5 "Shadow".
The gun in the shadow the hedgehog intro is not a mp5 but rather a really cursed ar15.
Please Jonathan, break down the weapons from *METAL GEAR SOLID 3* before the remake comes out.
So many weapons in MGS3 to react and comment on like the Patriot's infinite ammo magazine, the EZ tranq gun, Snake's customized officer M1911A1, Snake whittling the pistol grip to use a knife for CQC, Ocelot's SAA juggling skills, The End's paratrooper tranquilizer Mosin Nagant, the Davey Crockett recoil-less nuclear launcher and Eva's chinese mauser clone.
There are so many more other interesting trivias and weapons in MGS3 so please gamespot and Johnathan make a video for the game.
The fact the Davey Crockett is a real weapon is the wildest thing about MGS3. A handheld nuclear missile seems the same sort of science fiction to a bipedal robot that fires lasers.
Yesssssss. let's go!
I could see this becoming a recurring thing before Gamespot does so.
This 1000 times. Want to hear all about those 1911 customizations and Ocelots gun jamming
“THE FEED RAMP IS POLISHED TO A MIRROR SHEEN!” 😹
02:42 If you squint you can see Jonathan health bar taking damage 😂
Jonathan mentioned not seeing a mechanic of combining magazines before. There is a game called Project Zomboid where magazines and cartridges are all inventory items. So you can unload and reload magazines. So you can only reload as many magazines as you have managed to scavenge and add cartridges to.
Heck, unturned does that too, the silly blocky zombie survival game made by like, one guy.
7.62 High Calibre with the Hard Life mod also features this as a mechanic. An interesting sub-mechanic of that is that the third world country with morally bankrupt leadership the game takes place in has various mag limit laws. As a practical matter the government really only controls the central cluster of cities, but it does present some interesting issues where if you want to take your good magazines through the central area (not doing so adds an unhealthy amount of time going through an area with a high bandit spawn rate while costing fuel, and vehicle maintenance cost) you have to be prepared to bribe the cops, find a good fake ID maker, or do enough quests for the police to get a loiscence (which only deals with the mag restrictions, not FA ones, and generally requires working within the restrictions). There's actually a good amount of combat content (against gangs etc.) in the central cities. Stashes can be made on the world map and last forever without disappearing though, so it's not big an issue if you are leaving the same way you came in.
The other element to this is the FA restrictions, which you can only be rid of by going fully into pro-government route. Getting a reasonable quality AK outside the government's sphere is overly easy, but getting a *good* SA only is a big money sink even if you do find one for sale (otherwise I hope you like the Mini 14's accuracy).
@@kanrakucheese i assume the mod just makes it easier to do because individual rounds were already modeled in the base game, same as E5
but i would go earlier - jagged alliance
One of the OG HL1 mods also featured this. I think it was Firearms. (Or Global Warfare it's been awhile). The One with the Ak-47 and AK-74.
I've mentioned it here before, but infamous Doom mod Hideous Destructor also has magazine management as a major mechanic.
It's straightforward with some weapons, like the 9mm pistols & SMG, but the 4mm caseless assault rifle has finicky magazines and if you're not careful there's a chance you'll damage the rounds when trying to reload them.
On the subject of the pump action MP5, I feel like an episode on the weapons of Shadow the Hedgehog would be absolutely friggin' hilarious. I'm not sure it'd be feasible as I don't know if the game lets you get a good look at the weapon models, but if it is then it would make for prime "cursed gun" material.
It's a GCN game. Dolphin's free look solves that.
Iirc, there is a pump action rifle, Troy PAR 308
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Wait till sonic x shadow generations.
Loved the budget arms from cyberpunk. I played a melee build but occasionally would grab a vending machine gun to dispatch some thugs.
It's an interesting element to add to the game, single use weapons aren't something you normally see in games, apart from RPGS
I feel like he needs to see the Shadow the Hedgehog trailer to *truly* grasp the existential horror of the pump MP5
When I saw the bit about combining magazines, it struck me:
Jonathan hasn't reacted to *Receiver 2* has he???
That would be an interesting episode :)
12:38 always took the huge trigger/ trigger guard in starfield as being made for using when using thick gloves like the astronauts in the 60s
yep, seems like a pretty sensible upgrade if yr going to be wearing a spacesuit.
Please don’t give them any more ideas with that abominable California-legal MP5
I hate that California gun stuff, all it's done is ruin the perfect gun designs
More like south Africa legal, no? With their pump action Galils and such
Magazine is too large
That's actually the Shadow the Hedgehog MP5
@@adamgill9730 You can blame Reagan for that. He signed California's dumb gun legislation when he was governor to disarm the Black Panthers.
Starfield 1911 is also missing the plunger tube for the slide stop and thumb safety. It’s literally just not there.
Also its hammer never drops when you shoot it.
All of the guns in starfield work on sci-fi magic
It also holds too many rounds
2:49 “look how to massacred my boy!”
Second time I can claim I’ve seen Jonathan like this. The STG-44 from warzone and this pump MP5
Vanguard*** not warzone
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Yep, vacuum welding is a thing. Due to what is known as "van der Waals force", two similar metals will, if brought into contact on clean, flat surfaces, adhere very strongly together. Also known as "cold welding", it has led to issues in early satellites and in the design of space crafts.
At least in some cases, I believe it involves metallic bonding, not just van der Waals forces, with the surfaces joining much like they would if ultrasonic welded. Given the high pressures experienced by many firearms components, I wonder if the weld could be strong enough that components could only be separated by literally cutting them apart, potentially not just jamming but _destroying_ the weapon.
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It’s always been a little weird to have a British host of a firearm-knowledge based channel, but it 100% works and as time goes on I actually think it’s the FAR superior option to every American ‘gun guy’ host, aka the backyard wannabe-operator with Oakleys and a beard+beerbelly that never served a day on active duty, gatekeeping and acting a combination of holier than thou & smug every time they pull out a gun.
Jonathan’s just a humble, knowledgeable, consummate professional. Closest we’ve got to that on the US side is Ian McCollum (Forgotten Weapons).
Anyway, love this channel and happy new year
The pump action MP5 where Jonathan realizes what he's looking at is my all time favorite moment on this show.
Warframe has some goofy weapons and it would be cool to see Jonathan reacting to them
As much as I love _Warframe,_ its weapons go way, way, _way_ past goofy, and most aren't animated with much detail. It would basically just be an episode of Jonathan going, "Huh. Weird. Makes no sense. Next."
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@@irrelevantfish1978 Destiny has some wacky space guns too and he reacted to them.
@@irrelevantfish1978 There's plenty of detailed Warframe guns. The Cornith pump action shotgun being just one of many. He'd get a kick out of the Grineer weapons.
@@The1337guy1 Hmm ... I don't recall the Corinth animations having much to them, but maybe it's been too long. For that matter, now that I think about it, I might be wrong about the lack of animation detail. I may have just missed it due to it being third person and me not being interested in Captura.
I do know there's a gun which reloads with this really cool spin that is entirely pointless, though. Can't remember which one, as I've been on a break for about 6 months now.
I love the pump MP5 so much. Really making Shadow the Hedgehog proud.
I love the satirical humour of the Budget Arms disposable pistol. I wonder if it was inspired by old Kodak and Fujifilm disposable cameras. Those could be bought very cheaply. They were made of very cheap parts. They couldn't be reloaded. And by the time you got to the last few shots, you weren't even sure it was going to work or not. Maybe your last few photos would be double exposed, or the film would just jam. Too bad if that was when the bride and groom kissed, right? Should have bought a better camera!
Just a minor thing, but (as of writing) your description refers to "some of the most cursed weapons of 2022" - is this a typo? Still, thanks to everyone at GameSpot for these top-tier vids!
They probably recycled the description from last year's video and forgot to change the number.
like how this is just a game weapons channel now,
its like game theory but only with weapons
Loved him mentioning Van Der Waals force for consideration in using a firearm in space.
Physics-based explanation why a 1911 is a bad choice for space. I did not see that coming, impressive. I would like to see a gunblade episode with Jonathan. I'm currently playing FF XIII with Lightning's famous gunblade, but I guess there are not many occurrences of gunblades in video games, even though I know there have been some similar real-world weapons and I bet they have one or two in the Royal Armouries.
Now I want to gift Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries, a real pink Firearm with 3 EOTech red dot sights, 2 tactical flashlights, a drum magazine and have it all sprinkled in violet and blue glitter. Loaded with pink tracer ammunition of course. Sadly, my home country doesn't even allow pellet guns over a certain power limit.
Thanks to Dave and Adam and Jonathan and David for a great year of breaking down guns of video game 😊I love this show 👏 I have learned great deal from you guys thank you Jonathan and the team at Gamespot😊
@@IrregularDave happy new year dave
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I think Jonathan should check out the revamped recoil mechanics and new guns in Escape from Tarkov!
I think the change to the 1911 in Starfield is so your character can fit their spacesuit gloved finger inside the trigger guard
I am absolutely not surprised that Anton has yet again made the list of most cursed, but also probably favourites
Can we all just agree that Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history has the coolest shirts ever? Cheers for the video and happy new year folks!
I'm always happy to hear from Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms and artillery at royal armories in the UK.
Good to see another video about Jonathan Ferguson the keeper of fireams and artillery at royal armouries museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history. His charisma and love for guns never fails to enteetain me.
His mind: Emotional damage
Cheers for another great year of videos! Hope to see much more of Jonathan and Dave in 2024!
Thank you Dave, David, Adam and Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history for keeping us informed and entertained over the year.
I am still hope to see Generation Zero sometime, i think jonathan would find it interesting, and the experimental guns might be cursed. Overall, the guns on the robots would be extremely interesting to have an expert opinion on.
Also, Saints Row The Third Remastered.
I can only assume that the trigger guard on the 1911 pistol is extended in starfield so that someone with a space suit on can fit their gloved finger into it.
Still highly recommend the guns of the F.E.A.R. games, especially the first.
Loadout and Jonathn's Expert Reacts on Gamespot have quickly become my favorite thing to watch on RUclips. I've been an firearm fanatic for as long as I've been a gamer, and I'm old enough to get literally 100% of the games, movies, and tv shows referenced in these two series! I'm looking forward to a big 2024 with these series, keep up the great work!
I know you guys have done videos on Escape from Tarkov again but they just did a big update to the recoil and I would love to hear his reaction to the changes love the videos!
i would still love to see him react to the guns of boundary, especially as that's a shooter set in space with a sort of realistic aesthetic, so it may appeal to Jonathan how the guns seem build for space specifically and the detail that most of them include.
Wow.. That information of "welding" of metals in the vacuum of space is totally recompensating the fact that he overlooked that the 1911 is missing plunger tube on the side.
Happy New Year Mr Ferguson, The keeper of firearms and artillery.
Vacuum welding is an interesting piece of information that gets overlooked. Great info!
The pump-action MP5 broke him 😅
Going to need copies of that 0:25 for post cards and an office frame
One reason for the huge trigger guard on the Starfield 1911 might be so you can use it while wearing spacesuit gloves.
That's such a cope because whoever the weapons designers were in for the game clearly have no idea what they're doing half the time.
Hence, most of the cursed weapons in fallout 4 and that game.
My god... The overarching pun of the FU AK: It's a _hand_ gun. I both hate and love someone for this. LOL
2:50 I realized at the same time Mr. Ferguson did, and I was like like "What!?"
I remember playing warface many many years ago when it pretty much just came out. As far as I know the game has completely changed now, But there used to be a 'finger gun' that I thought was the coolest thing ever at the time, it did the same ok-sign for the back sight and used the thumb as the front.
If we want more cursed weapons, I once again kindly ask for a video on the Valkyria Chronicles series. It would be a lot of fun!
Dave, you really outdid yourself when describing some of the guns in this video. A bucket of squid down some stairs indeed.
Great video as always! Is there a name for the phenomenon Jonathan was talking about that could cause parts to weld together? I’d never heard of that before, I’d love to learn more about it, but I’m not even sure what terms to Google.
The pain in seeing the MP5 is very real, seeing your favorite gun modified into something else and you have to comment and analyze how it works, jonathan must've been in PTSD after experiencing seeing many cursed MP5
"Cosmic horror Milkor" is a good line, honestly
The Starfield 1911 was likely modified to fit spacesuit glove finger sizes, though that just raises even more questions given the issues with firing in vacuum.
As I grow older, my preference for original-looking weapons in games becomes more and more obvious. And as a highly functioning autist, it is very relatable when Jonathan cringes from the cursed weapons you present him in episodes like this one. I can only imagine the extra vocabulary offered by Jonathan off camera/ in person for you guys in the GameSpot team. Thank you for sharing these highly entertaining experiences, good job everyone. I would also like to take the opportunity to wish you a happy new year and thank you for all of 2023. 🥳
The Killzone series should be checked out, it has alot of interesting guns.
You can freeze frame the moment his heart breaks...
10:07 Arma 3's Advanced Combat Environment mod (ACE), a fairly universal realism mod used by most every group out there, includes magazine packing. Usually at unrealistic speeds, but you cant move or really look around while doing it.
That Ghost t-shirt looking real good, Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of firearms...
hes also the Keeper of Cool Shirts.
The 'combine magazines' feature was also in Firearms mod for Half-Life, a semi-realistic (for the time) team deathmatch game that was, for a while, more popular/just as popular as Counter-Strike (when CS was still a free Half-Life mod too, so... that long ago!)
Pump Action MP5 had me rolling💀💀
9:00 as far as i remember. This custom made finger targets have been available since last 2022.
Is there a Division 2 episode? Recently started playing, love the game, love Jonathan and would love to see him react to some of the exotics like the ‘diamondback’! There’s even a sidearm that somehow makes enemies more flammable so you can use a flamethrower on them? Would love to hear if there is a real world explanation for that and I’m sure he’d “love” the fold away minigun you can get👀
1911 Trigger guard change reason is actually really simple and also makes sense. So you can fit your finger in while wearing thick space gloves.
Would love to see a collab with Forgotten Weapons.
They actually did do some with the Christmas crackers
Have you not seen the Christmas Special that was released on 20th December by the Royal Armouries channel?
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I think some of the customisation options in SCP:5k would be rather interesting for Jonathan to look at.
I think he died inside when he saw his beloved MP5 as a pump action!
This series and Loadout got me through 2023. Here's to 2024.
Shadow the Hedgehog MP5
His reaction to the Mp5 shotgun was so funny lol
The pump action mp5 reminds me of Shadow the Hedgehog's pump action m16 from his game's opening cutscene (at least I think it's an m16 I'm not entirely sure)
Would you be willing to take a look at the guns in Enlisted? They have a lot of unique prototype guns I've never seen in any other game and, despite their inclusion being ahistorical to WWII, they seem to have a relatively realistic take on how they'd operate.
Pushing as always for you guys to have Jonathan cover Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter and to cover the M8 and MRI Caseless specifically as well.
I have been posting for you to do this in every video a year back now.
The Pump Action MP5 just made me think of the UK or California legal modifications for self-loading guns...
Like that weird lever gun AR-15 where the pistol grip is a lever system.
Is that Jonathon Ferguson? The keeper of firearms and artillery at the royal armories museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons throughout history?
With the 'Old Earth Pistol', my thought on the trigger guard is that you need to be able to handle it while wearing space gloves...
Back in the day there was an airsoft spring powered pump action MP5 SD and an elongated spring powered MP5k perhaps this is where they got the idea from for that forbidden MP5?
hi my name is jonathan to and i love your youtube channel i think that the tube on the ar-15 looking gun was using kinetic energy to power something and the 3D printed handgun reminds me of the underwater hand gun that fires darts
His poor reaction to the MP5 shotgun... I felt that... it's my favorite SMG.
I would love to see Johnathan review Roblox’s “Phantom Forces!”
I think I saved a woman a lot of grief in a gun store once. She was talking about "oh, this one's a lot heavier." and was trying to find something really lightweight... and I said something to the effect of "Well, you'll want to try them out, but heavier isn't always a bad thing, because weight helps absorb recoil."
We did not dignify pink as a reasonable color for a handgun. A proper lady has an appreciation for blued or stainless steel.
What could almost make sense is if the budget arms had a somewhat oversized barrel. Way less pressure buildup, zero accuracy, massively reduced power but at least it might survive for a few shots. Would also be interesting to see a less-than-responsible gun youtube channel explore.
I wonder if the almost-1911's tall trigger was so astronauts could fire the gun while wearing thick spacesuit gloves?
Regarding "do not reload" guns, recall Borderlands 2 had the Tediore pistols iirc where their unreloadability was a feature! :P
There's also the Throwing Pistol from the Halo: Cursed Again mod campaign. I think Jonathan would truly despise the guns from that, but they're full ludicrous factor mostly.
pump action mp5 - i still have mine stored somewhere... a very cheap plastic springer airsoft :D
I can sorta explain the 1911 in space.. There is a ship from earth that traveled slowly via conventional drives that arrives in the settled systems ~200yrs after it left earth. So in between when it leaves earth & technology leapfrogging that 1 ship would sorta explain the AK & 1911 type weapons.
I would really like to see Jonathan react to Criterion Game's 2006 work "Black", see how he likes them :)
I wonder if there's an in universe thought behind the trigger guard of the Old Earth 1911. Thick space gloves. Consideration in our time too, in colder climates.
Gotta love seeing Johnathan try to make sense of Bungie space magic