Great vid! I sold all my Pioneer gear a few months ago for a really good price and got myself a 4 decks SC+LC6000 setup and a Xone 96 mixer, not going back for sure, especially now with the 2.4 Engine OS update which is just huuge!
@PassionateDJ If money is not a concern, what are the components and manufacturer(s) you would choose to assemble the ultimate system for playing professional gigs in clubs?
Thanks for the awesome video! I do have a question. I am the owner of a new SC LIVE 4 since yesterday. I absolutely love the device but it crashes once in a while. When I use Beatport Link for instance. I have a very stable Wi-Fi connection with WPA-2 (so not WPA-3) which should be more stable with the DENON build in network card. The device just freezes and reboots on its own. I have the 3.2 firmware installed because that's what it did by itself yesterday. Do you have any idea what's wrong or what I am doing wrong? Again, thanks for the video. It really helped me out as a new Denon owner.
Awesome video! More like a hardware video than EngineOS itself, but its lovely that you also included the MCX, VL and DS1. Probably the best overview for people who like to change their rider, like I did ✌️
Thanks for watching! Yeah, it's definitely more focused on comparing the hardware, rather than an Engine OS manual. But hopefully there's a little something for everyone in here to learn!
Hi, I have a denon sc live 4, and I realized that "Search" only finds what is already in the library of the playlists I made. I would like to know how to make the "Search" scan the entire SSD.
I have an X1800 and it sometimes suffers from these grounding issues. I haven't found a decent fix anywhere though... would be silly if I had to return it to Denon so they can fix it - the shipping costs alone are probably insane. If you happen to know a fix which I can do myself, please let me know :)
Awesome review. own a couple of denon dj controllers. The Prime Go, Awesome machine. I use it at most of my gigs. I also have the denon dj MCX8000 which I haven't since I bought the Prime go. I'd still wanna keep it though. I may use the MCX8000 from time to time, but use with VDJ instead of with serato dj pro. I've had some issues with serto dj pro with the MCX8000. My next denon dj product Im looking to purchase is either the SC6000 or LC6000 with the prime 1850 mixer. 😊
@@PassionateDJ after the 2.3.2 update I wasn’t able to adjust the beat jump value size using the shift + the knob instead I had to into the settings panel and change the value size.
Several reviewers have mentioned that the Denon mixer is not the best in class for SQ. In a four-deck setup with dual SC6000M/LC6000, what mixer from an SQ standpoint would be a suitable replacement for the X1850? I’m leaning toward the Xone:96, but the MasterSounds Four Valve also appeals to me.
Unfortunately I've yet to review or spend any time with a MasterSounds mixer, but the XONE:96 and SC6000s are a lovely combo indeed! I'd say you're more likely to _find_ the XONE, though. My XONE:96 Review: ruclips.net/video/aDkRP0iQTTY/видео.html
I have been using them with an AH92 and have loved them.. . . I just purchased a Model 1.4 …. let us see if I get used to this one, but I expect the sound to be even better. This one is actually made in the UK… and it makes a big difference in quality (materials more than anything)
If you are streaming records from Spotify and do the grids and cue points will those save? If so, you would have to redo them if the next time you were streaming them from another platform like Tidal, correct? TIA
Streaming in DJ apps is not supported by Spotify at all. But generally speaking, you're correct - though you do still need a local storage drive (USB stick or SD card) to keep that stuff. I like SD card, because it sits flush :)
Honestly, have you had any issues with the SC6000 jogs? Every replacement I got has never matched it's twin and vice versa. Please give me your opinion.
This issue: ruclips.net/video/CTRyoLa1D2U/видео.html Besides the resistance differs a lot among media players (sc6000), often rattling sound from brake system
@@PassionateDJ thanks for your reply! I have the denon go and I was thinking of using it as a back up since it has a nice big screen. Thoughts? Easy to use if your not real tech savvy?
@@mb1958jay49 I think the Go is terrific… even more so as a backup. It’s very easy to toss in your bag, or sit down with headphones to test some mixes, etc. The battery is convenient if you’re the kind of person who moves around and works in different places like I do, lol
Thanks for covering the Denon line. Your reviews have been constructive for me. I’ve been out of the DJ scene since 1990. So I’ve been trying to get up to speed with the new technology and systems. Which has the better DAC sound quality, between SC6000 and X1850? Is there an SQ improvement using the SC6000 digital outputs into the mixer?
With my in-studio testing, I can't say I noticed any sound quality "problems" with any of these devices. That being said, the SC6000 has a better DAC (when comparing signal-to-noise ratio and THD+N). I have not done an A/B comparison of the mixer with analog vs. digital. Though with digital, you eliminate the risk of noise, run length, or anything else getting in the way of your signal.
@lukeannett May I ask how you would spec a complete system components, manufacturer(s) choosing top of the line equipment from current offerings in 2023?
I was going to do a video about MIDI clock + DJ mixers (unrelated to the X1800/1850 specifically) but hadn't decided if you guys would be into it or not!
I really don't agree with the point that any of the Denon all-in-one systems are a good center piece for connecting more devices you may want to have in your setup. This is what differentiate the Denon from the Pioneer devices. As Denon only have software effects that can not be used by external hardware, Pioneer all-in-one units have hardware effects that can be used equally by the internal and external devices. Something you would expect from a center piece unit. You would probably not buy a 4 channel mixer where the effects were only available on 2 channels, would you? If having 4 internal channels available is important and a requirement, go Denon, because then you will hardly use any of the channels for anything else anyway. On the other hand, if you're more of a multi gear user, or like me have been in the game for many years and want to have turntables and cdj's, and perhaps other Pioneer gear usable for link connection connected, Pioneer will be the obvious option. If your all-in-one will never leave it's case except for when being used at gigs, go with whatever fits your needs and wallet. I don't know why it's so hard to mention this little fact that could be a decision maker for many buyers. It's not that Denon themselves or any reviewers out there mention it either, so even with extensive research, DJ's will learn the hard way what software effects mean when they hook up their turntable for the first time trying the effects out, like i did with the Prime 4.
You're entirely correct - just one of those (major) things I left out of the script when making this 46 minute video. Will probably address this in a future video... maybe "Frequently Asked Questions about Denon DJ"?
@@PassionateDJ all good lol. Glad you giving denon love. I think it’s wayyyy ahead of pioneer in features. Not sure what pioneer is pioneering 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
At 2:45, did you say that hot cues from sdj pro carry over into engine? If so, this may be a game changer for me!
No one has confirmed this with me. I’ve spoken to a few different folks at different dj gear retailers, and none have confirmed this info.
Great vid! I sold all my Pioneer gear a few months ago for a really good price and got myself a 4 decks SC+LC6000 setup and a Xone 96 mixer, not going back for sure, especially now with the 2.4 Engine OS update which is just huuge!
4 deck PRIME setup + XONE:96 sounds like heaven!
@PassionateDJ If money is not a concern, what are the components and manufacturer(s) you would choose to assemble the ultimate system for playing professional gigs in clubs?
With 3.0 your basking in the 🌞
Thanks for the awesome video! I do have a question. I am the owner of a new SC LIVE 4 since yesterday. I absolutely love the device but it crashes once in a while. When I use Beatport Link for instance. I have a very stable Wi-Fi connection with WPA-2 (so not WPA-3) which should be more stable with the DENON build in network card. The device just freezes and reboots on its own. I have the 3.2 firmware installed because that's what it did by itself yesterday. Do you have any idea what's wrong or what I am doing wrong? Again, thanks for the video. It really helped me out as a new Denon owner.
Awesome video! More like a hardware video than EngineOS itself, but its lovely that you also included the MCX, VL and DS1. Probably the best overview for people who like to change their rider, like I did ✌️
Thanks for watching! Yeah, it's definitely more focused on comparing the hardware, rather than an Engine OS manual. But hopefully there's a little something for everyone in here to learn!
Nice run through. What stand are you using for the Prime Go in this video? Is it sturdy for performance work?
This is a great video for anyone who's planning to buy any of Denon hardware. Thank you.
Hi, I have a denon sc live 4, and I realized that "Search" only finds what is already in the library of the playlists I made. I would like to know how to make the "Search" scan the entire SSD.
what song is this? !! 14:28
How do I cue one song to one side of the headphones add the other song to the side on sclive4
Yes! Bought a SC6000 a while ago, barely used it. Can’t wait to watch this. 👍👍
Hope you find something useful here!
@@PassionateDJ I’m sure I will!
Outstanding work, almost seems like Denon cares about democratizing DJing 😂 thanks for the super deep dives 😎🖤🙌💪
Great video man. Love my Sc6000m’s and x1850.
Can you connect Denon turntables to Prime 4?
Ty
Great video, I was doubting about getting the Prime Go bc I saw other videos stating that you can't use it as a controller. Thanks!!
I have an X1800 and it sometimes suffers from these grounding issues. I haven't found a decent fix anywhere though... would be silly if I had to return it to Denon so they can fix it - the shipping costs alone are probably insane. If you happen to know a fix which I can do myself, please let me know :)
thank for doing this, very hard to find stuff about denon dj
Glad to help, thanks for watching :)
22:25 and this. I like it
Serato hotcues don't all carry over. Tried to do this endless times and its not consistent.
Awesome review. own a couple of denon dj controllers. The Prime Go, Awesome machine. I use it at most of my gigs. I also have the denon dj MCX8000 which I haven't since I bought the Prime go. I'd still wanna keep it though. I may use the MCX8000 from time to time, but use with VDJ instead of with serato dj pro. I've had some issues with serto dj pro with the MCX8000. My next denon dj product Im looking to purchase is either the SC6000 or LC6000 with the prime 1850 mixer. 😊
Thanks for watching, Ivan! The PRIME Go rocks... enjoy it!
@@PassionateDJ after the 2.3.2 update I wasn’t able to adjust the beat jump value size using the shift + the knob instead I had to into the settings panel and change the value size.
Several reviewers have mentioned that the Denon mixer is not the best in class for SQ. In a four-deck setup with dual SC6000M/LC6000, what mixer from an SQ standpoint would be a suitable replacement for the X1850? I’m leaning toward the Xone:96, but the MasterSounds Four Valve also appeals to me.
Unfortunately I've yet to review or spend any time with a MasterSounds mixer, but the XONE:96 and SC6000s are a lovely combo indeed! I'd say you're more likely to _find_ the XONE, though. My XONE:96 Review: ruclips.net/video/aDkRP0iQTTY/видео.html
I love my Mastersounds Radius 4 with the SC6000.
I have been using them with an AH92 and have loved them.. . . I just purchased a Model 1.4 …. let us see if I get used to this one, but I expect the sound to be even better.
This one is actually made in the UK… and it makes a big difference in quality (materials more than anything)
You don’t have any possible to change the gred matter to bars in the sc 6000
What stand is that that you had your prime go sitting on?
This lil' guy right here!
amzn.to/3hSJzYe
If you are streaming records from Spotify and do the grids and cue points will those save? If so, you would have to redo them if the next time you were streaming them from another platform like Tidal, correct? TIA
Streaming in DJ apps is not supported by Spotify at all. But generally speaking, you're correct - though you do still need a local storage drive (USB stick or SD card) to keep that stuff. I like SD card, because it sits flush :)
@@PassionateDJ you rock! Thank you so much!
Honestly, have you had any issues with the SC6000 jogs? Every replacement I got has never matched it's twin and vice versa. Please give me your opinion.
No probs so far here (SC6000 or LC6000) - what trouble are/were you having?
This issue: ruclips.net/video/CTRyoLa1D2U/видео.html
Besides the resistance differs a lot among media players (sc6000), often rattling sound from brake system
on the sc6000 can you mix from 1 deck and see both songs at the same time on screen?
Shift + View!
@@PassionateDJ SO would it be possible to mix with 1 deck?
@@mb1958jay49 yes... the beauty of dual layer functionality on these players!
@@PassionateDJ thanks for your reply! I have the denon go and I was thinking of using it as a back up since it has a nice big screen. Thoughts? Easy to use if your not real tech savvy?
@@mb1958jay49 I think the Go is terrific… even more so as a backup. It’s very easy to toss in your bag, or sit down with headphones to test some mixes, etc. The battery is convenient if you’re the kind of person who moves around and works in different places like I do, lol
lovely video
Thanks for covering the Denon line. Your reviews have been constructive for me. I’ve been out of the DJ scene since 1990. So I’ve been trying to get up to speed with the new technology and systems.
Which has the better DAC sound quality, between SC6000 and X1850?
Is there an SQ improvement using the SC6000 digital outputs into the mixer?
With my in-studio testing, I can't say I noticed any sound quality "problems" with any of these devices. That being said, the SC6000 has a better DAC (when comparing signal-to-noise ratio and THD+N).
I have not done an A/B comparison of the mixer with analog vs. digital. Though with digital, you eliminate the risk of noise, run length, or anything else getting in the way of your signal.
Personally, I didn't like the dac on the x1850 so I sold it. It had a slightly harsh high end. Dac on the SC6000 is fine.
@lukeannett May I ask how you would spec a complete system components, manufacturer(s) choosing top of the line equipment from current offerings in 2023?
Wish you went over midi out more! That’s a giant feature!!
I was going to do a video about MIDI clock + DJ mixers (unrelated to the X1800/1850 specifically) but hadn't decided if you guys would be into it or not!
Thank you
Glad to help! 💙
Whoops. Time to update this video. 🙂 Hello Engine OS 3.0
I really don't agree with the point that any of the Denon all-in-one systems are a good center piece for connecting more devices you may want to have in your setup. This is what differentiate the Denon from the Pioneer devices. As Denon only have software effects that can not be used by external hardware, Pioneer all-in-one units have hardware effects that can be used equally by the internal and external devices. Something you would expect from a center piece unit. You would probably not buy a 4 channel mixer where the effects were only available on 2 channels, would you?
If having 4 internal channels available is important and a requirement, go Denon, because then you will hardly use any of the channels for anything else anyway.
On the other hand, if you're more of a multi gear user, or like me have been in the game for many years and want to have turntables and cdj's, and perhaps other Pioneer gear usable for link connection connected, Pioneer will be the obvious option.
If your all-in-one will never leave it's case except for when being used at gigs, go with whatever fits your needs and wallet.
I don't know why it's so hard to mention this little fact that could be a decision maker for many buyers. It's not that Denon themselves or any reviewers out there mention it either, so even with extensive research, DJ's will learn the hard way what software effects mean when they hook up their turntable for the first time trying the effects out, like i did with the Prime 4.
You're entirely correct - just one of those (major) things I left out of the script when making this 46 minute video. Will probably address this in a future video... maybe "Frequently Asked Questions about Denon DJ"?
14:42
Funny you make this video just when there was just a flexible beat grid update 🤦🏾♂️😂
Right?! 😅But I already put this video off once, because of the SC Live 4 and 2... so I had to just fire away!
@@PassionateDJ all good lol. Glad you giving denon love. I think it’s wayyyy ahead of pioneer in features. Not sure what pioneer is pioneering 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@bboymac84 Their pricing poltics. Charge more and more for less, lol.
Denon all the way.
Old stuff,... when a new comming up???????
These gadgets are so “intelligent “
What stand is that that you had your prime go sitting on?
It's this little guy right here! amzn.to/3Fur0BB