Nothing is good. Database corrupted regulary even ejected properly, latency, strange EQ. It is toy for bedroom DJs with FXs woooooo. SC5000 works fine but consoles sucks all of them denon / pio. Maybe for wedding / jukebox party ok ;)
@@tomasnovacek1533 how can the database get corrupted by itself? What latency, strange EQ what does that mean? As it stands Denon is ahead when it comes to stand alone in terms of features and is better value for money
While you did this video Denon made an Engine update that activates Bluetoots, for input. The BT out comes with the next release this year. So with Live 4 and Prime 4+ you get more bang for bucks. Denon doesn't tell you what hardware is in their controler. Then suddenley they introduce new software updates and you get suprised with totaly new features.
I got the Opus its dope was for sure waiting cor the XZ2 that never came then got intel from a reliable source at Pioneer stating it wasnt coming. The sound quality is better then my XZ cdj2's for sure
Good review and comparisons. Prime 4 & Prime Go are the frontline in my business, also have a conventional Pioneer DDJ-FLX10 for the guys that prefer the Pioneers. We do mainly weddings and all my DJ's are hired guns.
From a Pioneer DJ's perspective... Been on Pioneer hardware since the very beginning in 1994 and to date have never had a problem resulting in the music dropping out, because of the hardware. Me on the other hand... Got the Prime 4 as it was released and to me it was a brick, not a working piece of DJ gear. Doesn't matter how many features there is when they are not fully functional and some of the basic features are either missing or work poorly. Away it went. Forward 4 years and BOOM!!! Numark releases the Mixstream Pro, and I had my eyes on it for some time but was turned off by some very limitations to the effects, and my earlier experience with Engine didn't make i better. Then I got an offer I couldn't resist, so I got one, and boy, has the latest versions of the Engine firmware made a difference??!!! It does have fewer effects than the Omni Duo and the Denon's, but now fully controllable and with extra features via the X-Y-mode, it's quite enough for the use I have for the unit, which is lounge and bar jobs and similar, when I'm expected to bring my own gear for free. That type of gigs has become more and more common, and bringing a full Pioneer modular setup doesn't really work for me. Taking the Numark for a spin on the other hand, 3.8 kg's in a soft case, cheaper than the 3 cases to my pioneer setup, is a pure joy. Yes there's some double work to get the music in to both Rekordbox and Engine for export, but as I have all my music sorted in explorer and don't use pre programmed cue points/loops, it's only a few minutes of work for me, and the rest of the time my computer handles the analyze. Exporting via Rekordbox takes time as I need everything on my SSD's, For my Numark, as it is a device for dedicated gigs, only the dedicated music need to be on my USB's. If I get a late request for a job, I can just drag some of the new stuff over to the USB as the Numark will analyze the music on the fly loading the tracks. Takes about 10 sec's for a full song, so it's not a mayor delay. I've also prepared one of my Rekordbox SSD's containing 26 000 tracks on the unit, and it took about 45 minutes to get it ready, but then I got access to everything. Note that when doing this, the music is not analyzed, only your playlists. The final analyze happens when you load a track, so it's not comparable with exported music from Engine, but still very useful the way I use it, as a backup plan for when the unexpected is required. Conclusion: From a Pioneer gear heads perspective, this Numark Mixstream Pro is a perfect cheap workhorse for those gigs you need something very cheap and portable, but still very capable to play on. Features are similar to the Omni Duo, lacks some but also adds more. Build quality are on the same level as the Pioneer entry level controllers, FLX4/FLX6, so not pro in any way, but good enough to last years with some gentle handling of the buttons and faders. Mine have had a few free falls to the floor, and have escaped without a dent or scratch to the plastic.
I started on a Pioneer 350 controller and did jump to a XDJ-XZ a few years a go and love it. This year i did upgrade to Pioneer CDJ3000 players and a DJM mk2 mikser. I love the 3000 setup but to be honest i think its more fun playing on the XZ. Why? It have its own usb record port and i just love the setup. Im a Underground Dj and mostly plat at 1000-2000 and some 3000 deks. Many events around rigging up with RX3 and XZ. To be honest the XZ beat the RX3 in so many ways and the Opus Quad is not worth the money. I would and will recomend the XZ now in 2024 even if some say its old. Why? Master out eq,full size jog wheals and a 4 channel 900DJM mikser. Yes the dispaly screen is smaller but i dont mind. I would never buy a RX2 or RR because of the soundcard and that the screen and loading time is lagging.
I have technicax1200s with a s 11 + a pioneer srt 1000. Looking for just a stand alone , this video helped with the optins but I'm going to wait to purchase because there are still options i want but aren't there yet like a serato stand alone controller. Fingers crossed ,if it doesn't come. Ill just get the pioneer xdj rr.
Standalones are cool, I picked up a Denon SC Live 4 and I love it, the latest engine update brought some great features and blown away how good the speakers are, but I'm also glad that I can still hook up my laptop with Serato if I so choose, and seems like all the standalones out there other than maybe the Opus Quad, have that capability. So I don't think its a no laptop allowed kind of party, but its cool to see what a standalone unit can do. I happen to have started finding a lot of good tracks on Amazon music so I was very stoked to get that use feature on the Engine DJ standalone side (which for now, laptop setups can't do, although all Serato has to do is integrate a DRM component which pry wouldn't even require any special additional hardware). I like having the extra options, even though I own Serato exclusive controllers, but its nice to not be locked in to just being a standalone in my book.
Almost pulled the trigger on prime 4 plus. But I started using stems recently. And that is going to be a feature I can’t go without from now on. I use dj pro ai.
Standalones can also use computers, for me I got an Opus, and CDJs for my seperates I use serato now because I use their Studio DAW and my Opus is mapped to the DAW its dope. Idk about ableton I love the fact all my stuff works together even simultaneously if need be
these are stand alone controllers. the main and most important factor is the internal processing since this is going to be the only device in the chain that controls your playback.. you've only talked about the dock in the Opus Quad. it uses a 32bit version of the dac chip found in the a9, V10 and euphonia (theirs is 64bit). so that tells me a little bit about the sound quality I would be expecting. 32-bit means that it's floating point conversion meaning that they'll be ample headroom and little to know distortion no matter how much gain is applied to the digital sources. sound quality must be top notch. I really wish you didn't ignore this aspect in every other controller if you talked about.. this is one of the reasons why I rarely allow a DJ to hook up their controller to my club setup. and why a lot of other sound texts at high-end clubs just outright ban controllers. if we know shit about the digital to analog conversion being used, it makes it very difficult for us to ensure good sound quality on our often massively powerful system. the worst thing possible would be to pump through a crap signal thru speakers that drive nightclubs and festivals. amplifying a turd will never ever sound good.. and not because xlrs are built into the controller means that they are "professional"... its all about the DACs. the XZ and RX use 24-bit floating point conversion which is also found in the djm900 Nxs 2 mixer... those translate well.. I've heard some sound techs that have evaluated the Denon standalone PLAYERS and have found them to be far superior to the CDJ 2000 Nexus 2 Players. so I would be curious to know whether denon's standalone controllers also make use of whichever chip their newer players use.
Don't take this the wrong way, but if you want to talk about sound quality in this manner, you need to understand how it works. Like most people, you're falling for the dac chip specs. The dac chip is not where most of you sound quality comes from. You need to start with the file you're playing. 99% of DJ's use MP3's. When you start with MP3 quality you end up with MP3 quality. Always. 32bit sound quality requires a 32 bit file. Lossy compression means musical information was removed and discarded from the original file during the transcoding process. You can never get it back. Now, you're going to tell me the dac upsamples the file to 32 bit. Yes it does, and here's what that means. Since you can't get the musical information back that was lost during the transcode process, you're left with only one option. During the upsampling process, non musical information is added to the file. Essentially, the file gets inflated so that it looks like, and is the correct size, of an actual 32 bit file. All you're doing is tricking the dac into thinking your MP3 file is really a 32 bit file. You still get MP3 sound quality. So, why does the 32bit Pioneer sound better than the other units? The dac. A dac consists of 3 parts. The digital section, the analog section and the power supply. Most of your sound quality comes from the analog section and power supply. By far. If you give 5 designers the exact same dac chip, you will get 5 different sounding dacs. If you want 32 bit sound quality, you need a real 32 bit file. If you've ever heard the term bit perfect playback, that what it means. You play the file back in its native resolution. Aside from that, your comments on gain are a bit confusing. It just doesn't work like that. Where I think you're going wrong is you don't know the difference between gain and volume. Most people think they are the same thing, but they're very different. No matter how good the gear, too much gain will overdrive any input on any piece of audio gear ever made, regardless of quality. Only gain can distort, or damage the signal. Volume can't. So when you say that you can turn the gain all the way up with no distortion, 99% its really a volume control, and not gain. Also, you're going by the assumption that issues you've had with sound quality and DJ gear plugging into your system, is dac related. If far more likely that poor sound quality was due to bit stripping, or not knowing how to deal with single ended and balanced circuits. Those types of issues are far more common. One last thing. I don't want to argue. People sometimes get upset when you challenge them. So, if you want to have a real discussion, that's fine. I love talking about audio equipment. However, everything in my post can be checked. Its not my opinion, so there's no point in arguing facts. If you can legitimately show me something that conflicts with the information in my post, that's fine. I'll be happy to look at it.
@@AT-wl9yq I'm a 30 year experienced audio (live and studio) audio technician and mixing engineer (and more 😅). I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote. However I have also heard that the side by side comparison with these Pioneer and Denon standalone models, people preferred the sound of the Denons. I only read this in comments though. No educational info in regards to why was given. On the other hand, I've personally heard the efx on the Pioneers are currently superior in sound. I would suggest the OP of this comment section invest in a high quality limiter haha. Other than that I don't know what else to tell him. I'm on the fence with the Prime 4+ and the RX3. The Prime 4+ seems to be more future proof and with an internal hard drive swap option, wifi, BT in/out, 4 actual channels, streaming and multi touch screen; its calling my name. But the efx and larger jog wheel of Pioneer are calling my name as well. I'm will only be using either for home use and parties/weddings. So any feedback of your opinion on that is requested and respected. Cheers
Question: I'm a Pioneer user but i'm thinking of buying the SC Live 4. I'm concerned about the screen (it's size). I've got big hands/fingers.. Furthermore, i'm used to use the RX and RX3 and I really like the whole experience rekordbox/Pioneer. So, is the screen on the SC Live 4 easy to use to search tracks on tidal etc if you have bigger hands? And second: going from Pioneer/Rekordbox to Denon / Enige DJ is a bit scary, or is it worth it?
I have huge hands (1,98m) using the SC Live 2. The display is absolutely fine imho. Bigger is always better but the whole experience is really good. I started using tidal, switched now to mp3s. Don't see any problem with streaming, beside the missing possibility to sort for key/BPM for example while streaming and also not setting loops and cue points. Also recording isn't possible, I did it with an audio device connected to my phone. That's the reason why I switched to mp3s. In general I really like the Live 2, unfortunately I didn't decide to go straight to the Live 4, because I just started and couldn't see any reason to spend the money on the 4, but now I'm missing a third channel. I have no experience on Recordbox or Serato, Engine DJ is working fine to prepare songs on my PC. Edit: only four performance pads is also not as great as the eight from the Live 4. It's a little bit of extra work which is unnecessary.
Have they made the prime 4 fx avail to the external inputs yet? I can’t understand the point of external inputs but onboard fx can’t be used. That was a dick move denon. Otherwise u wld already have my money.
Do you own sc live 4? If so, can you mix just as well on it, as a 1210 turntable? I know they’ll feel different but part of me thinks you may not be able to mix that well on this device.
@@Chris-qi7yy yes, from Pioneer sheep. But from a pure technical and age to price ratio, its horrible. Lacks many essentials. Get a Denon, Numark, or second hand RX2 at least.
I wouldn’t say it was biased, but he overemphasized the FX part ( Denon has updated its effects with 3.1 and 3.2 by a lot) and also forgot some crucial advantages, like lighting/dmx control, Ableton link, SD card slots on all devices including the Numarks, or better customization. Also, Engine DJ 3.4 brought bluetooth.
The prime 4 is still hard to beet/ price / performance and sound
Beat..not beet .
This is one of the best product comparison videos I've ever seen. Subscribed.
Denon user here all good
Nothing is good. Database corrupted regulary even ejected properly, latency, strange EQ. It is toy for bedroom DJs with FXs woooooo. SC5000 works fine but consoles sucks all of them denon / pio. Maybe for wedding / jukebox party ok ;)
@@tomasnovacek1533 how can the database get corrupted by itself? What latency, strange EQ what does that mean? As it stands Denon is ahead when it comes to stand alone in terms of features and is better value for money
While you did this video Denon made an Engine update that activates Bluetoots, for input. The BT out comes with the next release this year. So with Live 4 and Prime 4+ you get more bang for bucks. Denon doesn't tell you what hardware is in their controler. Then suddenley they introduce new software updates and you get suprised with totaly new features.
Pretty sure you can plug LC6000 to the sc live 4 to use the other channels with
Yes!
mixstream pro and denon now have bluetooth in and out. update engine os to 3.4 :D
Bluetooth in on Mixstream? Hmmm where?
Indeed, bluetooth input on either Ch1, Ch2 or Master!
Using it right now......
@@Web-Intruder Where on Earth did you find this...? I have dj engine 4.0. Decided to send my Numark back. Swapping it for Denon.... What do you use?
Mixstream pro/ Engine DJ 4.0.0
@@peter7998 MixStream Pro/ Engine DJ 4.0.0
the sc live 4 and mixstream pro just got updated and they both have bluetooth enabled.
I got the Opus its dope was for sure waiting cor the XZ2 that never came then got intel from a reliable source at Pioneer stating it wasnt coming. The sound quality is better then my XZ cdj2's for sure
I’m looking at something to switch over to from NS7ii
I appreciate the update. I never saw the other videos. I'm using pioneer ddjsb2 at the moment.. Thanks again, I'm a Serato user.
question: 0:41 Could you tell me the name of the stand hoding the Omnis Duo?
Good review and comparisons. Prime 4 & Prime Go are the frontline in my business, also have a conventional Pioneer DDJ-FLX10 for the guys that prefer the Pioneers. We do mainly weddings and all my DJ's are hired guns.
From a Pioneer DJ's perspective... Been on Pioneer hardware since the very beginning in 1994 and to date have never had a problem resulting in the music dropping out, because of the hardware. Me on the other hand... Got the Prime 4 as it was released and to me it was a brick, not a working piece of DJ gear. Doesn't matter how many features there is when they are not fully functional and some of the basic features are either missing or work poorly. Away it went. Forward 4 years and BOOM!!! Numark releases the Mixstream Pro, and I had my eyes on it for some time but was turned off by some very limitations to the effects, and my earlier experience with Engine didn't make i better.
Then I got an offer I couldn't resist, so I got one, and boy, has the latest versions of the Engine firmware made a difference??!!! It does have fewer effects than the Omni Duo and the Denon's, but now fully controllable and with extra features via the X-Y-mode, it's quite enough for the use I have for the unit, which is lounge and bar jobs and similar, when I'm expected to bring my own gear for free. That type of gigs has become more and more common, and bringing a full Pioneer modular setup doesn't really work for me. Taking the Numark for a spin on the other hand, 3.8 kg's in a soft case, cheaper than the 3 cases to my pioneer setup, is a pure joy.
Yes there's some double work to get the music in to both Rekordbox and Engine for export, but as I have all my music sorted in explorer and don't use pre programmed cue points/loops, it's only a few minutes of work for me, and the rest of the time my computer handles the analyze. Exporting via Rekordbox takes time as I need everything on my SSD's, For my Numark, as it is a device for dedicated gigs, only the dedicated music need to be on my USB's. If I get a late request for a job, I can just drag some of the new stuff over to the USB as the Numark will analyze the music on the fly loading the tracks. Takes about 10 sec's for a full song, so it's not a mayor delay. I've also prepared one of my Rekordbox SSD's containing 26 000 tracks on the unit, and it took about 45 minutes to get it ready, but then I got access to everything. Note that when doing this, the music is not analyzed, only your playlists. The final analyze happens when you load a track, so it's not comparable with exported music from Engine, but still very useful the way I use it, as a backup plan for when the unexpected is required.
Conclusion: From a Pioneer gear heads perspective, this Numark Mixstream Pro is a perfect cheap workhorse for those gigs you need something very cheap and portable, but still very capable to play on. Features are similar to the Omni Duo, lacks some but also adds more. Build quality are on the same level as the Pioneer entry level controllers, FLX4/FLX6, so not pro in any way, but good enough to last years with some gentle handling of the buttons and faders. Mine have had a few free falls to the floor, and have escaped without a dent or scratch to the plastic.
I started on a Pioneer 350 controller and did jump to a XDJ-XZ a few years a go and love it.
This year i did upgrade to Pioneer CDJ3000 players and a DJM mk2 mikser. I love the 3000 setup but to be honest i think its more fun playing on the XZ. Why? It have its own usb record port and i just love the setup.
Im a Underground Dj and mostly plat at 1000-2000 and some 3000 deks. Many events around rigging up with RX3 and XZ.
To be honest the XZ beat the RX3 in so many ways and the Opus Quad is not worth the money.
I would and will recomend the XZ now in 2024 even if some say its old.
Why? Master out eq,full size jog wheals and a 4 channel 900DJM mikser.
Yes the dispaly screen is smaller but i dont mind.
I would never buy a RX2 or RR because of the soundcard and that the screen and loading time is lagging.
Great video! If I never use a laptop . How reliable are these for just streaming without usb back up
I have technicax1200s with a s 11 + a pioneer srt 1000. Looking for just a stand alone , this video helped with the optins but I'm going to wait to purchase because there are still options i want but aren't there yet like a serato stand alone controller. Fingers crossed ,if it doesn't come. Ill just get the pioneer xdj rr.
Standalones are cool, I picked up a Denon SC Live 4 and I love it, the latest engine update brought some great features and blown away how good the speakers are, but I'm also glad that I can still hook up my laptop with Serato if I so choose, and seems like all the standalones out there other than maybe the Opus Quad, have that capability. So I don't think its a no laptop allowed kind of party, but its cool to see what a standalone unit can do. I happen to have started finding a lot of good tracks on Amazon music so I was very stoked to get that use feature on the Engine DJ standalone side (which for now, laptop setups can't do, although all Serato has to do is integrate a DRM component which pry wouldn't even require any special additional hardware). I like having the extra options, even though I own Serato exclusive controllers, but its nice to not be locked in to just being a standalone in my book.
youj can definitely hook up a laptop to the opus quad
Almost pulled the trigger on prime 4 plus. But I started using stems recently. And that is going to be a feature I can’t go without from now on. I use dj pro ai.
And stems on deck..added to all Denon gear !
Ciao... and thanks for your suggestions. When do you think they will release the new version of the NI TRAKTOR S4?
I think I want a 4 channel RX3 with DVS support or an updated XZ. I want to swap or mod my xone 92 for a rotary.
If I want to use additional software & hardware like Ableton Live & SP 404 would it be best to use a controller or standalone?
Standalones can also use computers, for me I got an Opus, and CDJs for my seperates I use serato now because I use their Studio DAW and my Opus is mapped to the DAW its dope. Idk about ableton I love the fact all my stuff works together even simultaneously if need be
Denon is the way. #Prime4gang
these are stand alone controllers. the main and most important factor is the internal processing since this is going to be the only device in the chain that controls your playback.. you've only talked about the dock in the Opus Quad. it uses a 32bit version of the dac chip found in the a9, V10 and euphonia (theirs is 64bit). so that tells me a little bit about the sound quality I would be expecting. 32-bit means that it's floating point conversion meaning that they'll be ample headroom and little to know distortion no matter how much gain is applied to the digital sources. sound quality must be top notch.
I really wish you didn't ignore this aspect in every other controller if you talked about.. this is one of the reasons why I rarely allow a DJ to hook up their controller to my club setup. and why a lot of other sound texts at high-end clubs just outright ban controllers. if we know shit about the digital to analog conversion being used, it makes it very difficult for us to ensure good sound quality on our often massively powerful system. the worst thing possible would be to pump through a crap signal thru speakers that drive nightclubs and festivals. amplifying a turd will never ever sound good.. and not because xlrs are built into the controller means that they are "professional"... its all about the DACs. the XZ and RX use 24-bit floating point conversion which is also found in the djm900 Nxs 2 mixer... those translate well..
I've heard some sound techs that have evaluated the Denon standalone PLAYERS and have found them to be far superior to the CDJ 2000 Nexus 2 Players. so I would be curious to know whether denon's standalone controllers also make use of whichever chip their newer players use.
Don't take this the wrong way, but if you want to talk about sound quality in this manner, you need to understand how it works. Like most people, you're falling for the dac chip specs. The dac chip is not where most of you sound quality comes from. You need to start with the file you're playing. 99% of DJ's use MP3's. When you start with MP3 quality you end up with MP3 quality. Always. 32bit sound quality requires a 32 bit file. Lossy compression means musical information was removed and discarded from the original file during the transcoding process. You can never get it back. Now, you're going to tell me the dac upsamples the file to 32 bit. Yes it does, and here's what that means. Since you can't get the musical information back that was lost during the transcode process, you're left with only one option. During the upsampling process, non musical information is added to the file. Essentially, the file gets inflated so that it looks like, and is the correct size, of an actual 32 bit file. All you're doing is tricking the dac into thinking your MP3 file is really a 32 bit file. You still get MP3 sound quality.
So, why does the 32bit Pioneer sound better than the other units? The dac. A dac consists of 3 parts. The digital section, the analog section and the power supply. Most of your sound quality comes from the analog section and power supply. By far. If you give 5 designers the exact same dac chip, you will get 5 different sounding dacs. If you want 32 bit sound quality, you need a real 32 bit file. If you've ever heard the term bit perfect playback, that what it means. You play the file back in its native resolution.
Aside from that, your comments on gain are a bit confusing. It just doesn't work like that. Where I think you're going wrong is you don't know the difference between gain and volume. Most people think they are the same thing, but they're very different. No matter how good the gear, too much gain will overdrive any input on any piece of audio gear ever made, regardless of quality. Only gain can distort, or damage the signal. Volume can't. So when you say that you can turn the gain all the way up with no distortion, 99% its really a volume control, and not gain. Also, you're going by the assumption that issues you've had with sound quality and DJ gear plugging into your system, is dac related. If far more likely that poor sound quality was due to bit stripping, or not knowing how to deal with single ended and balanced circuits. Those types of issues are far more common.
One last thing. I don't want to argue. People sometimes get upset when you challenge them. So, if you want to have a real discussion, that's fine. I love talking about audio equipment. However, everything in my post can be checked. Its not my opinion, so there's no point in arguing facts. If you can legitimately show me something that conflicts with the information in my post, that's fine. I'll be happy to look at it.
@@AT-wl9yq I'm a 30 year experienced audio (live and studio) audio technician and mixing engineer (and more 😅). I couldn't agree more with everything you wrote. However I have also heard that the side by side comparison with these Pioneer and Denon standalone models, people preferred the sound of the Denons. I only read this in comments though. No educational info in regards to why was given. On the other hand, I've personally heard the efx on the Pioneers are currently superior in sound. I would suggest the OP of this comment section invest in a high quality limiter haha. Other than that I don't know what else to tell him.
I'm on the fence with the Prime 4+ and the RX3. The Prime 4+ seems to be more future proof and with an internal hard drive swap option, wifi, BT in/out, 4 actual channels, streaming and multi touch screen; its calling my name. But the efx and larger jog wheel of Pioneer are calling my name as well.
I'm will only be using either for home use and parties/weddings. So any feedback of your opinion on that is requested and respected.
Cheers
@@AT-wl9yq hi, for opening an mp3 for voice removal, what would be more recommended...denon prime4+ or pioneer opus?
Yu⁶@@AT-wl9yq
Thanks for this, such a good comparison.
Any1 here recommend sc live 4 for bedroom use?
Need an update for AZ
Question: I'm a Pioneer user but i'm thinking of buying the SC Live 4. I'm concerned about the screen (it's size). I've got big hands/fingers.. Furthermore, i'm used to use the RX and RX3 and I really like the whole experience rekordbox/Pioneer. So, is the screen on the SC Live 4 easy to use to search tracks on tidal etc if you have bigger hands? And second: going from Pioneer/Rekordbox to Denon / Enige DJ is a bit scary, or is it worth it?
I have huge hands (1,98m) using the SC Live 2. The display is absolutely fine imho. Bigger is always better but the whole experience is really good. I started using tidal, switched now to mp3s. Don't see any problem with streaming, beside the missing possibility to sort for key/BPM for example while streaming and also not setting loops and cue points. Also recording isn't possible, I did it with an audio device connected to my phone. That's the reason why I switched to mp3s.
In general I really like the Live 2, unfortunately I didn't decide to go straight to the Live 4, because I just started and couldn't see any reason to spend the money on the 4, but now I'm missing a third channel.
I have no experience on Recordbox or Serato, Engine DJ is working fine to prepare songs on my PC.
Edit: only four performance pads is also not as great as the eight from the Live 4. It's a little bit of extra work which is unnecessary.
Do any of these allow to connect an internal hd?
What DJ Controller will automatically analyze the songs on my flash drive to mix on the spot?
NEITHER
Have they made the prime 4 fx avail to the external inputs yet?
I can’t understand the point of external inputs but onboard fx can’t be used. That was a dick move denon. Otherwise u wld already have my money.
omfg this is perfect
I wish crossfader quality could've gotten some more attention :/
No internal SSD ? That would make 1000% sense.
Would be smart to bring your laptop 💻 in case the all in one crashes you have a back up! Trust me they aren’t perfect!!
Yes u can I been using my prime 4 for about 3 years weekly and now issue yet just got a prime 4+ but not in use yet
Denon effects are now better till OS v4.0
Best value for money is the sc4 live.
Over 3,000 dollars yet no WiFi for streaming and no stems?? Hard pass!! Alpha Theta!!
I think this new company has lost there mind Overpriced joke
@@roymoxley2587 it doesn’t even have an internal drive! They have to copy denon or stick to old technology of their own🤷🏾♂️
Stems for noobs. Streaming gimmic.
@@Suriprofz go back to your cave lol
XDJ RR is trash and very outdated. Do not buy! Buy Live 4 instead for same price.
Do you own sc live 4? If so, can you mix just as well on it, as a 1210 turntable? I know they’ll feel different but part of me thinks you may not be able to mix that well on this device.
@@grahamkelly8662 I own one and the RR is still trash.
Why is the RR trash and outdated? I always hear it’s one of the best budget all in one controllers
@@Chris-qi7yy yes, from Pioneer sheep. But from a pure technical and age to price ratio, its horrible. Lacks many essentials. Get a Denon, Numark, or second hand RX2 at least.
Shoulda put the Ethernet hub in their A-9 mixer🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ what a hard miss🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ pass!!
What's the issue with using laptops? Nonsense.
Nothing. I have videos for that too. :)
This push away from modular is very sad. The mixers are all shit in these units.
Biased review
Pioneer gave him a brown envelope.
🤣🤣 I wish!
What’s you non-biased option then?
I wouldn’t say it was biased, but he overemphasized the FX part ( Denon has updated its effects with 3.1 and 3.2 by a lot) and also forgot some crucial advantages, like lighting/dmx control, Ableton link, SD card slots on all devices including the Numarks, or better customization. Also, Engine DJ 3.4 brought bluetooth.
@modingo21 if you Want to pay over the top for a club ready giant deck with no WiFi or streaming go for pioneer. If on a budget g o for prime 4 +