The Omnis looks like a designer piece much like it's larger Opus-Quad cousin. I see where Alpha-Theta is going with their new line of products. That Indigo really stands out.
Great video. My thoughts are always the same. I own the PRO GO and i own pioneer gear as well. I have the same grief as you when you want to transition between ENGINE OS and USB. It was a deal breaker for me when the prime4 came out and hence i went with the XZ which i still own . A thing you fail to mention was 1.The PRO GO has 8 hot cue support .(double press) 2. The PRO GO has a sampler mode with sampler volume (underated feature) but can be used for your DJ drops 3. Ability to Jump in between different streaming platforms . You can have beatport playing on one deck and beatsource playing on the next. The Denon Go is nifty especially traveling and on the Go . The PRO GO is actually too large to fit in a bagpack . I love the speakers on there because you can go and jam out in a park or outdoors no need to carry extra stuff. Omnis seems smaller than the PRO GO and thats a plus because if you can take it in a bagpack you can practice with some headphones on the go as well. I havent used or touched the Omnis Duo Yet. But i feel you glanced over the day mode not covering the waveforms. It a big deal especially playing outside (IMO). I love the design of the Omnis. Clean aesthetic is always a plus for me and in white whole look amazing.(12inchskinz) Once the Omnis Duo gets streaming i feel the bluetooth feature would make it less relevant and even a hard pick for alot of people. The Omnis is a great entry level controller but its not for me at that price even for a backup controller. The price will be the biggest hinderance for alot of established DJs and Old school Dj . And for back up as well. The REV5 Is seeming like a great controller after all. I have owned the whole of the Denon SC5000 and X1800 series and whole of the pioneer range as well over the years . Just my two cents .
Terry out here doing the lords work! Great review of these 3 units! I own the Prime Go, and based on my use case I will stick with it. Love the streaming feature on the prime go, i accidentally discovered at a gig and was able to connect to my Dropbox folder. I haven’t had an issue with needing to adjust the eqs on the mics, my higher end sennheiser hand held sounds absolutely fantastic on the Prime Go. All of the cons you mention, are I mostly agree with. But the ability to roll up to the gig and rock a party completely wireless for 4 hours is a plus! Loved the review man, you covered a lot on these 3 units.
The Mixstream Pro Go is the best out of all of these. I'm not just saying that because I own it. I own it because that's a fact. It has the best jogs, it does NOT feel cheap by any stretch. It has the Amazon chop, and the speakers are loud and clear enough that you could absolutely provide the music for a day at the pool or beach with no problem. Sure you're not going to rock a club or bar with the speakers, but its meant like a situation you'd have a boombox in, except now you can DJ and control the music flow...The Mixstream unit is amazing and I love mine...
I have pro go also. Love it, ALTHOUGH after less than a year my cross fader is shot, one play/pause button is not always responsive and there is no ability to make playlists from a folder on usb or sd card without a computer....calling it standalone is an overstatements for this solo reason. Numark was notified about the shortcommings, but not sure if they will do anyuthing about that. Also inability yo edit the track names and line them up depending on energy levels or key (only by yearm bpm, artist name etc - basically stuff no real dj will use in real life situation)....I have told them about this shortcommings...let's see if they listen to custommers. For now my Numark is going back to Amazon for a refund.
Great job! I’m a full time wedding/corporate DJ and use Denon Go exclusively. Yes I wish the mics had eq but it’s not a huge deal and I need 2 mic inputs. Tidal is fantastic when the need arises. The aux input is super handy. With a Pro X case, setup and teardown is fast and the thing packs up small.
I hear ya. I own a the Prime Go as well, and use it live four to five nights a week for 5 months straight. Play/Cue buttons started losing functionality, cross-faders and up-faders became faulty, would freeze up if fog or haze filled up the room, I experienced many major issues to the point where I had to buy a second one mid summer. I love the Prime Go, but its certainly not built to perform night in and night out. In comparison, I was previously rocking the original Pioneer DDJ-SX and never once experienced these type of issues.
Great review. The switching back from Engine to Standalone on Denon units is my biggest pet peeve. They had that capability of switching on the fly on the Denon MCX8000. If they could fix that on a future hardware release I would instantly buy it. Listen up Denon. As far as Mic Eq Im ok with Denon Prime Go because I have the capability on my DSP on speakers to EQ.
Great work as always! I like that my Prime GO needs a long screen press before it launches, it ensures that it doesn't get switched on by accident and so potentially saves the battery. Could be a nightmare taking it out my bag and the battery was dead
Honestly the speakers in which everyone disliked in the go pro is the selling point for me. Since I can't go full blast in my apartment I can get tunes off with just turning it on.
Patiently hoping the Prime Go gets updated to a similar layout and job wheel size as the other 2. The Alpha Theta is perfect, I just want the Denon build and engine software.
Great rundown. I'm sticking with my OG Mixstream for now but more competition in the all in one space is great. Hopefully lights a fire under InMusic and gets us some new releases soon (like a Prime Go 2.0).
Good review, thanks for making this. I'm watching this after the purchase of a Mixstream Pro (not Go) and was reassured hearing what I did in the comparisons. Feel like I definitely made the right choice now, no more wondering. Also, slight "correction" the Mixstream does have 8 dedicated cue pads, as do the rest of the pad modes. You can toggle between 1-4 and 5-8 by pressing the cue button twice.
Glad you pointed that out, because it is an option that is often left out. There are great compact mixers which won't make a dent in the pocket and the whole package will still be very lightweight.
I would have gone with the AT, but I have had the XZ, Prime 4, DDJ800 (loved that MF) and the one that is still there (have other ones that replaced those ones) is the P-GO, and I don't see it going anywhere soon. Is not the best stuff, but it sure works wonders for me. That with the Thump Go and the U-3.... Almost perfect.
I bought both the Mixstream Pro Go and the Pro+ (because sometimes I fly to DJ gigs and I want a controller without built-in battery in my suitcase). They're my favourite portable controllers by far. At home and at larger gigs, I use Technics SL1210 Mk IIs, or CDJs.
Thanks for this comparison. By owning the Denon Prime Go, I agree with all your comments. Do you think stems will come to the Omnis Duo perhaps in computer mode since the pads right now are only hot cues? Also very odd that it’s a Rekordbox controller but no performance pads. With Serato integration in the future, the Omnis Duo seems like a possible future grab.
2:30 wasnt there a more expensive versión of the Numark with 4 pads? I think was with four channels as well i think was an all in one controller but i'm not sure if it was with battery or not i think Thats the better pick.
Great video dude. Although you're gonna have to redo this video though when (if) Denon release the Prime Go 2. The first one was so good that even adter 3-4 years old, its still comparable to competitors new releases. Engine OS has evolved so much and is no longer a toy. Some nice refinements i think would be: USBC power delivery charging (hate the brick on mine) optimised fader layout, tiltable screen, optional (attachable) booth speaker... As long as they dont increase the size too much.
Very nice and honest comparison review,covered pretty much everything...personally I was always a numark user,started with a mixtrack 2 pro,then mixtrack 3 platinum and later on got the numark nv,but this year I decided to buy a denon prime go which came out to be the best kit for my needs....what an amazing machine...
I was laughing at Mixstream Pro at first because of the speakers; but now I'm grateful I've got it. The only wrong thing about it, is the name as it says Numark not Pioneer. The Pioneer is great but too expensive whole the Denon is perfect for travelling.
On the mixstream go can actually a bank to use with the 8 pad modes and also it works as a speaker if u were to connect a second controller …… I use the speakers with my Rane ones in my room
@@jrv8709 if you are using serato you jus run a usb from the mixstream to your cpu and then also connect whatever controller you’re using to the same cpu then u can use the speakers on the mixstream and some of the effects still works from the mixstream
Great video looking for something to use on daily commute and when stuck at work also wondering if you can use LC 6000's on these as of yet and have you heard if they're going to add that feature
8:48 OBJECTION : You have 8 cue points, saved loops, auto loops and rolls on the Mixstream Pro Go, all having a second bank on all the Mixstream Pro range. Unlike the Prime Go's "Bank" button, you simply press the button again to access the second bank, represented by the button of the feature blinking.
In the current version of the Omnis-DUO you can not stream to a bluetooth speaker and read audio from bluetooth at the same time. Unsure if this is a hardware limitation or software which may change later. Overall, if you are not planning to bring it to a large festival and play at home or small parties it is a quite nice board. When using the bluetooth feature for audio input you can connect, then start a service like spotify and it will record it into one of the chanels. You can instantly use it into your mix.
Correct, you’re unable to adjust the tension of the DPGo platters. But I Beg to differ when it comes to being "very difficult" to mix and scratch with them
I'm leaning towards the Mixstream Pro (non battery) version, myself. Lack of a battery isn't a big deal as I'm something of a homebody, so I'm not far away from a plug :) Though if I did want to go portable, I have an inverter that runs on the batteries I use for my power tools; I use it with my MPC One+ when I do get the urge to cut the cord. :)
Brother just saved me hours of research. I was already sold on the mixstream Pro Go. Although originally was thinking I'd go for the Omnus Duo. Just can't justify the cash when the mixstream pro go is so dam good and feature packed!
A guest spilled a whole small bottle of Coca-Cola on my Denon Prime Go and Go survived it. Only after a year I started to have problems with the master knob and one of the faders. Cleaning fixed the issue.
If and when Denon/Numark decide to activate Bluetooth I still don't it'll amount to much. The AKAI standalones which allegedly have the same chip sets have Bluetooth activated on those devices and all it's capable of doing is connecting an external keyboard/mouse. Will they do more with it? That remains to be seen.
Just pre ordered my omnis duo after watching this video and others but yours nailed it for me. Always was a fan of denon but been using pioneer since 2012. I love my ddj 1000 but I've been using it since 2018 and am really wanting to be a lot more portable and I am extremely excited about the fact that I can play off of my phone and tablet. What a game changer. Once again your the best and thank you for efforts you put in to keep us all informed.
I own the pro go, and I love it. Especially the updated firmware drops. (Waiting on that Bluetooth update!) I’ve never been a heavy EFX user, maybe just echo and filter. Also with the latest update the fader activated echo out is a great touch! We all know times are tough and a dollar doesn’t buy what it used to, so with that I’ll stick with the pro go. Feels cheap?? Yeah… gets the job done?? Absolutely. Great video! Thanks for the upload! 🙌🏼
@@AshleyCarrington-s4d pitch faders are fine, and get the job done. The bpm display on the screen is accurate and makes beat matching easy with a nudge of a pitch fader + or -.
Thinking about switching my Denon Prime Go for the Mixstream Pro Go, solely because I've started using Serato. But is the sound quality much worse than the Prime Go? Planning to use the kit at small bars.
Cool review. I Dj for fun and free as a hobbie in my basement or pool parties. Bought a new in box mixstream pro plus from a junky for $40. Trying to figure out best way to get music to it. Was rockin a newb controller (pioneer DDj something with serato and an old laptop) How do I get my serato tunes off old comp? transfer to new comp via usb, then use engine os to create thumb drive? Drop music from old pc to Dropbox? Start over with a streaming service? WTH is stems
I would like to know, is it possible to play a track on deck 1 and while the track is playing, record via Bluetooth, or is the deck blocked while recording Bluetooth on the omnis duo?
Great, great , great video! I am going to get the Pro Go as my primary backup unit. My main setup is a Denon prime 4+ running on Serato. I need a low cost standalone that I can run without my laptop for smaller gigs. I don't want to bring a $2K Prime 4, plus a $1K laptop to every gig.
In 2024 DJing for private events, The Mixstream Pro Go with a hotspot from my phone and Beatsource gives me the absolute freedom and confidence to play and have the tunes. I still bring my hard drive. Yes the mic option the Mixstream Pro Go is not the best, but I route that issue with my Numark Scratch.
Great video, as usual. You have cleared up most of my concerns. I'll wait for the upgraded (MK2) version of the Prime Go. I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed Denon includes bigger jog wheels, mike EQ, and the same smooth integration with Virtual Dj. The inclusion of Serato might depend on the judge's ruling in the court case with InMusic. Engine Dj has become a force to reckon with in the past couple years. Hopefully, by the end of the Engine Dj Stems trial (I believe, it's still in Beta), Denon might incorporate some dedicated hardware buttons for Stems manipulation. Or they might go the on-screen Sampler route. 😊
Most importan advantage of the DENON is, that it is compact! Its footprint is exactly like a DIN A3 sheet of paper. Considering HOW MANY user-requested Feature Updates were updated since the DENON DJ Prime GO came out, the price is more than worth the money. DENON added most important features and upgrades like meter volume for chan 1 and 2 (before it was only master volume meter). And they added a Sampler Feature to play one shot samples or full tracks from the sampler pads!!! I bought mine very late after it came out (end of 2023), and even till now (march 2024) there were another 2 firmware updates adding very useful new features and touchscreeen layout improvements that speed up your workflow!!! =DDD
I wanna like the on omnouse but AT I believe design the nonstandard gear with no DJ input effects only on the screen and price are my only issues if it gets to 1199 I’d be more likely to buy
Buy a XDJ-RR with a 65W power delivery battery and a PD to DC 5 V, 9 V, 12 V, 15 V, 20 V Adaptor with all the plug adaptors coming with, very useful ! With my Soundboks I can mix anywhere
I want to start with DJing on birthdays, Weddings and so on. For me the Omnis Duo seems the Perfect one to start? Espacially the Bluetooth Feature. In a Small room it would definetley be okay to use 2 big Soundboks devices with the omnis duo… But the Price is high! Should I go with another standalone? I don’t want to take my Laptop With me. I want a standalone :)
Hi nice review , I want to go into mixing a bit in mine circus show so not looking to use pc and something like that to Carrie around which one you recommend is best for a zero knowledge person like me. Regards from croatia
My first mixer back in like 92’ was a purple Numark mixer. To this day I wish I didn’t sell it. I’ve had several numark pieces of gear and never ever been let down. Owned the denon prime 4. Not a fan. Never again. Pioneer is great but they just over charge for the name. Really don’t care what brand something is at my age. Really considering the numark for just playing around at home with zero hassle and also for streaming on twitch.
I don’t think you spoke about the difference in hot cue pads. For me the mixstream pro requires a semi hard press to engage and it has a squishy feeling, it’s kind of annoying. Does the omnis duo have a more clicky feel unlike for example a rev 7 pad where its capacitive touch?
Appreciate this video but the 1 thing that turns me off with them all is, none of the crossfaders are “end user replaceable”!! It’s 2024 for crying out loud!! Why can’t they just make this standard?? I have had the MixStream for a year and a half now and the crossfader is completely dead now. Bleed on both sides. So as it stands now it is a $800 paperweight 🤦🏾♂️
Totally agree on the crossfader, I have the Mixstream Pro which I love but even when brand new the faders are simply quite bad, and would also have loved to replace them, which sucks that it ain't possible. However, I want to throw out a tip which saved me once I realized it - when fader started bleeding and thought it was game over, I bought a DeoxIT Fader F5 lubricant, and it completely solved the bleeding, both on my Mixstream Pro and my Reloop Beatpad 2. Might be worth a shot. They are as good as new now.
@@donaldsmyth727 sorry, I have no clue - I bought it from a local retailer in Sweden. But it is relatively common in the music industry I think, because if I remember correctly it is used for other studio equipment as well, anything related to faders things like that
I think the Onmi's price is high for the compromises that were made. No pad mode, and no xf paddles for a controller that is squarely in the pro gear price range? For the asking price, no compromises should have been made.
I rock my Go and I prefer gear that's built to last. Prime Go ain't built for scratchers so yeah i can see the annoyance with the jogs, but if you don't scratch (much), I think that guy is really gonna work for you
I own the denon prime go and a few months ago I was able to stream Beatsource and tidal at the same time, do you think this could be done on the new model pioneer unit?
@ClevelandTerry ,Very GOOD Video !! You didn't talk about the second FX part of the Stream Go and the Prime Go which is the Touch FX, a big plus! They also have the Sampler function. As for the non-existent Trim on the microphone parts of the Prime Go, for my part... I don't feel penalized! I use Sennheiser EW100G4 HF microphones, they have 4 types of adjustment: 1 - Neutral (linear adjustment) 2 - Bass reduction 3 - Treble reduction 4 - Treble increase
I enjoyed owning the first gen Numark mixstream pro but tbh the sound quality from those xlrs wasn’t too good. I know its an entry level device so its great for what it is but its a point that not too many speak on. The other 2 will have a better dac for sure.
you have many errors in your video. the prime go does not have 2 usb ports. it has a SD card and one usb port.. the Numark does have 8 hot cues if you change layers not 4. the processor in the numark is faster than the prime go (it can decode amazon music the prime go cant).
Great review Terry! I think so Denon units are much better units than Pioneer's [because of components]. Denon have better DAC's [AK with dynamics 110dB vs BurrBrown 102dB we can find in RX3]. CPU are better too in Denon - Rockchip comes from 2017, XR3 and other ones from family xdj have CPU MCIMX6Q6AVT10AD from....2012. In my home studio I got PrimeGO. SC Live 4 and RX3. Prime Go have one more serieous lack /besides mic EQ/ - there is no peak led for every LINE /even just one LED like in mic input!/ we dont know when we have internally distorted signal. Because of this is recommended to keep GAIN knob no more than 11 o'clock.. Regards from Poland
I've used mine with a 1TB SD with zero issues, and 2TB drives (such as the Samsung T7/SanDisk Extreme) fine - it takes a little time to read, but works flawlessly once it has indexed the drives/SD cards, no issues at all 👍
I’m aware that there a couple of information gafs like the usb on the prime go. It happens. It was recorded late last night. You’ll live.
Yes! I’m the 37th person to like your video.
The numark looks like a good deal for a all in one
Awesome comparison video. Exactly the kind of info everyone needs to make an informed decision.
The Omnis looks like a designer piece much like it's larger Opus-Quad cousin. I see where Alpha-Theta is going with their new line of products. That Indigo really stands out.
Both overpriced controllers
unironically looks like a toy
@@lelluca toy? Just looks like a nice design. Things don’t have to be tacky to be pro audio.
Thanks!
Appreciate you!
Great video. My thoughts are always the same. I own the PRO GO and i own pioneer gear as well. I have the same grief as you when you want to transition between ENGINE OS and USB. It was a deal breaker for me when the prime4 came out and hence i went with the XZ which i still own . A thing you fail to mention was
1.The PRO GO has 8 hot cue support .(double press)
2. The PRO GO has a sampler mode with sampler volume (underated feature) but can be used for your DJ drops
3. Ability to Jump in between different streaming platforms . You can have beatport playing on one deck and beatsource playing on the next.
The Denon Go is nifty especially traveling and on the Go . The PRO GO is actually too large to fit in a bagpack . I love the speakers on there because you can go and jam out in a park or outdoors no need to carry extra stuff. Omnis seems smaller than the PRO GO and thats a plus because if you can take it in a bagpack you can practice with some headphones on the go as well.
I havent used or touched the Omnis Duo Yet. But i feel you glanced over the day mode not covering the waveforms. It a big deal especially playing outside (IMO). I love the design of the Omnis. Clean aesthetic is always a plus for me and in white whole look amazing.(12inchskinz)
Once the Omnis Duo gets streaming i feel the bluetooth feature would make it less relevant and even a hard pick for alot of people. The Omnis is a great entry level controller but its not for me at that price even for a backup controller. The price will be the biggest hinderance for alot of established DJs and Old school Dj .
And for back up as well. The REV5 Is seeming like a great controller after all.
I have owned the whole of the Denon SC5000 and X1800 series and whole of the pioneer range as well over the years . Just my two cents .
All points are true. Didn’t want to make a video that long. 😀
@@ClevelandTerry amazing and awesome video nonetheless. Keep killing it and representing 🔥
I think I will buy the Omnis as my backup device, though. I only have one Macbook for performing atm so the Omnis would solve that specific issue.
Terry out here doing the lords work! Great review of these 3 units! I own the Prime Go, and based on my use case I will stick with it. Love the streaming feature on the prime go, i accidentally discovered at a gig and was able to connect to my Dropbox folder. I haven’t had an issue with needing to adjust the eqs on the mics, my higher end sennheiser hand held sounds absolutely fantastic on the Prime Go. All of the cons you mention, are I mostly agree with. But the ability to roll up to the gig and rock a party completely wireless for 4 hours is a plus! Loved the review man, you covered a lot on these 3 units.
The Mixstream Pro Go is the best out of all of these. I'm not just saying that because I own it. I own it because that's a fact. It has the best jogs, it does NOT feel cheap by any stretch. It has the Amazon chop, and the speakers are loud and clear enough that you could absolutely provide the music for a day at the pool or beach with no problem. Sure you're not going to rock a club or bar with the speakers, but its meant like a situation you'd have a boombox in, except now you can DJ and control the music flow...The Mixstream unit is amazing and I love mine...
It feels cheap compared to the others. On its own it’s fine.
Haha if it feels cheap then it is 😂
Cheap but does a far better job than that blue thing..
The lack of a booth is insane though. Good luck monitoring your mix in any type of loud environment besides your bedroom
@@simonhill6267 headphones work....
Stopped DJing years ago but damn these are luring me back in.
Same. I really want that Numark just so I can dj cable-less on my couch while chillin 😂
Why did you stop?
The Mixstream Pro Go for me is the better device considering the price range and what you get for that price. It's the best bang for buck device.
Defenetly I use the pro go for remote streams amazing controller ❤
I have pro go also. Love it, ALTHOUGH after less than a year my cross fader is shot, one play/pause button is not always responsive and there is no ability to make playlists from a folder on usb or sd card without a computer....calling it standalone is an overstatements for this solo reason. Numark was notified about the shortcommings, but not sure if they will do anyuthing about that. Also inability yo edit the track names and line them up depending on energy levels or key (only by yearm bpm, artist name etc - basically stuff no real dj will use in real life situation)....I have told them about this shortcommings...let's see if they listen to custommers. For now my Numark is going back to Amazon for a refund.
I was waiting for your video on this ❤
I would pick the numark over them all because of how affordable and the jog wheel being bigger . And I can find them all day use for 400-600
Can't wait to see a mixstream pro 2.
With longer pitch sliders it would be a win 💯
can’t forget an additional four pads, probably riddance of the inbuilt speakers, as well as USB-C charging :)
@@defaultyotis_x7528 yess usb-c charging would be sooo good. Is there anyway to do a remote gig and power off a battery to have more play time?
Best review i have seen so far about battery dj devices. Thanks !
I have the Denon and VERY pleased with it ! 😊😊😊😊
Great job! I’m a full time wedding/corporate DJ and use Denon Go exclusively. Yes I wish the mics had eq but it’s not a huge deal and I need 2 mic inputs. Tidal is fantastic when the need arises. The aux input is super handy. With a Pro X case, setup and teardown is fast and the thing packs up small.
I hear ya. I own a the Prime Go as well, and use it live four to five nights a week for 5 months straight. Play/Cue buttons started losing functionality, cross-faders and up-faders became faulty, would freeze up if fog or haze filled up the room, I experienced many major issues to the point where I had to buy a second one mid summer. I love the Prime Go, but its certainly not built to perform night in and night out.
In comparison, I was previously rocking the original Pioneer DDJ-SX and never once experienced these type of issues.
do you use bluetooth or plug into speakers?
@ Bluetooth for prep. Wired for events.
I dropped my Prime Go on a marble floor and it's not bent and still working properly!
The mix stream pro Go hands down matter fact the Omnis Duo needs price Swap with the Mix stream pro Go.😅
Great review. The switching back from Engine to Standalone on Denon units is my biggest pet peeve. They had that capability of switching on the fly on the Denon MCX8000. If they could fix that on a future hardware release I would instantly buy it. Listen up Denon. As far as Mic Eq Im ok with Denon Prime Go because I have the capability on my DSP on speakers to EQ.
Great work as always! I like that my Prime GO needs a long screen press before it launches, it ensures that it doesn't get switched on by accident and so potentially saves the battery. Could be a nightmare taking it out my bag and the battery was dead
I love you Cleveland. Best DJ Reviewer on RUclips. Short and to the point. Great Job!
Great reviews, I have the Denon prime go. I'm extremely happy with it, and blown away how intelligent that piece of hardware is.
Honestly the speakers in which everyone disliked in the go pro is the selling point for me. Since I can't go full blast in my apartment I can get tunes off with just turning it on.
Patiently hoping the Prime Go gets updated to a similar layout and job wheel size as the other 2. The Alpha Theta is perfect, I just want the Denon build and engine software.
Great rundown. I'm sticking with my OG Mixstream for now but more competition in the all in one space is great. Hopefully lights a fire under InMusic and gets us some new releases soon (like a Prime Go 2.0).
thanks for the video. if anyone has the mixstream pro you can get a halo bolt and get 5 hours of battery use out of it.
Good review, thanks for making this. I'm watching this after the purchase of a Mixstream Pro (not Go) and was reassured hearing what I did in the comparisons. Feel like I definitely made the right choice now, no more wondering. Also, slight "correction" the Mixstream does have 8 dedicated cue pads, as do the rest of the pad modes. You can toggle between 1-4 and 5-8 by pressing the cue button twice.
VERY helpful overview as I decide on my first all-in-one TYSM! No Mic EQ & mini-jog wheels on the Denon a deal-breaker for me as well!
I'll use my Go and a mixer. I'll still have a few hundred bucks in my pocket. Great job on the shootout.
Glad you pointed that out, because it is an option that is often left out. There are great compact mixers which won't make a dent in the pocket and the whole package will still be very lightweight.
use a Yamaha mg06 with mine no complaints@@gmmigge
AMAZING Review! Thank you. You explained and answered all of my questions without me sending you a question.lol. Thanks again.
I like the Mixstream Pro Go…the best of these 3.
Thanks. This helped. Decided to go with the Numark and can't wait to get it!
Seems like the mix stream pro go is the better bang for your buck.
Like most new units, it takes a while to get over the sticker shock.
I would have gone with the AT, but I have had the XZ, Prime 4, DDJ800 (loved that MF) and the one that is still there (have other ones that replaced those ones) is the P-GO, and I don't see it going anywhere soon.
Is not the best stuff, but it sure works wonders for me.
That with the Thump Go and the U-3....
Almost perfect.
I bought both the Mixstream Pro Go and the Pro+ (because sometimes I fly to DJ gigs and I want a controller without built-in battery in my suitcase). They're my favourite portable controllers by far. At home and at larger gigs, I use Technics SL1210 Mk IIs, or CDJs.
The Prime Go is definitely the best! Same size jog wheels as the Xone 4D, doesn’t need a laptop, fits perfectly in my backpack and feels amazing 🥳
Thanks for this comparison. By owning the Denon Prime Go, I agree with all your comments. Do you think stems will come to the Omnis Duo perhaps in computer mode since the pads right now are only hot cues? Also very odd that it’s a Rekordbox controller but no performance pads. With Serato integration in the future, the Omnis Duo seems like a possible future grab.
I agree
2:30 wasnt there a more expensive versión of the Numark with 4 pads? I think was with four channels as well i think was an all in one controller but i'm not sure if it was with battery or not i think Thats the better pick.
The NS4FX. Not battery powered.
@@ClevelandTerryi think he means the sclive 4
That’s a denon
@@mixx_factory oh yeah is the Denon I forgot
Great video dude. Although you're gonna have to redo this video though when (if) Denon release the Prime Go 2. The first one was so good that even adter 3-4 years old, its still comparable to competitors new releases. Engine OS has evolved so much and is no longer a toy. Some nice refinements i think would be: USBC power delivery charging (hate the brick on mine) optimised fader layout, tiltable screen, optional (attachable) booth speaker... As long as they dont increase the size too much.
Agreed
Very nice and honest comparison review,covered pretty much everything...personally I was always a numark user,started with a mixtrack 2 pro,then mixtrack 3 platinum and later on got the numark nv,but this year I decided to buy a denon prime go which came out to be the best kit for my needs....what an amazing machine...
I was laughing at Mixstream Pro at first because of the speakers; but now I'm grateful I've got it. The only wrong thing about it, is the name as it says Numark not Pioneer. The Pioneer is great but too expensive whole the Denon is perfect for travelling.
On the mixstream go can actually a bank to use with the 8 pad modes and also it works as a speaker if u were to connect a second controller …… I use the speakers with my Rane ones in my room
Yeah I missed that. 🤷🏾♂️
How do you connect a second controller to Mixstream ?
@@jrv8709 if you are using serato you jus run a usb from the mixstream to your cpu and then also connect whatever controller you’re using to the same cpu then u can use the speakers on the mixstream and some of the effects still works from the mixstream
Great video looking for something to use on daily commute and when stuck at work also wondering if you can use LC 6000's on these as of yet and have you heard if they're going to add that feature
8:48 OBJECTION : You have 8 cue points, saved loops, auto loops and rolls on the Mixstream Pro Go, all having a second bank on all the Mixstream Pro range.
Unlike the Prime Go's "Bank" button, you simply press the button again to access the second bank, represented by the button of the feature blinking.
In the current version of the Omnis-DUO you can not stream to a bluetooth speaker and read audio from bluetooth at the same time. Unsure if this is a hardware limitation or software which may change later.
Overall, if you are not planning to bring it to a large festival and play at home or small parties it is a quite nice board.
When using the bluetooth feature for audio input you can connect, then start a service like spotify and it will record it into one of the chanels. You can instantly use it into your mix.
Correct. I said that in the video
Correct, you’re unable to adjust the tension of the DPGo platters.
But I Beg to differ when it comes to being "very difficult" to mix and scratch with them
I didn’t say I couldn’t. I said I don’t like too.
I'm leaning towards the Mixstream Pro (non battery) version, myself. Lack of a battery isn't a big deal as I'm something of a homebody, so I'm not far away from a plug :)
Though if I did want to go portable, I have an inverter that runs on the batteries I use for my power tools; I use it with my MPC One+ when I do get the urge to cut the cord. :)
Brother just saved me hours of research. I was already sold on the mixstream Pro Go. Although originally was thinking I'd go for the Omnus Duo. Just can't justify the cash when the mixstream pro go is so dam good and feature packed!
How jogs compare? Would you pay 400 more for omnis if you like to scratch?
A guest spilled a whole small bottle of Coca-Cola on my Denon Prime Go and Go survived it. Only after a year I started to have problems with the master knob and one of the faders. Cleaning fixed the issue.
pro go all day that aka alpha theta kapa si way too high and to me only has bluetooth
If and when Denon/Numark decide to activate Bluetooth I still don't it'll amount to much. The AKAI standalones which allegedly have the same chip sets have Bluetooth activated on those devices and all it's capable of doing is connecting an external keyboard/mouse. Will they do more with it? That remains to be seen.
Are they considering adding any pad modes on the Omnis duo?
Good question. I’m hoping they can do something in the software at some point.
Just pre ordered my omnis duo after watching this video and others but yours nailed it for me. Always was a fan of denon but been using pioneer since 2012. I love my ddj 1000 but I've been using it since 2018 and am really wanting to be a lot more portable and I am extremely excited about the fact that I can play off of my phone and tablet. What a game changer. Once again your the best and thank you for efforts you put in to keep us all informed.
I own the pro go, and I love it. Especially the updated firmware drops. (Waiting on that Bluetooth update!) I’ve never been a heavy EFX user, maybe just echo and filter. Also with the latest update the fader activated echo out is a great touch! We all know times are tough and a dollar doesn’t buy what it used to, so with that I’ll stick with the pro go. Feels cheap?? Yeah… gets the job done?? Absolutely. Great video! Thanks for the upload! 🙌🏼
How do you feel about the pitch faders ? I am between Mixstream Pro go and Numark NS4F
@@AshleyCarrington-s4d pitch faders are fine, and get the job done. The bpm display on the screen is accurate and makes beat matching easy with a nudge of a pitch fader + or -.
Really great comparison, thanks!
Thinking about switching my Denon Prime Go for the Mixstream Pro Go, solely because I've started using Serato. But is the sound quality much worse than the Prime Go? Planning to use the kit at small bars.
Cool review. I Dj for fun and free as a hobbie in my basement or pool parties. Bought a new in box mixstream pro plus from a junky for $40. Trying to figure out best way to get music to it. Was rockin a newb controller (pioneer DDj something with serato and an old laptop)
How do I get my serato tunes off old comp?
transfer to new comp via usb, then use engine os to create thumb drive?
Drop music from old pc to Dropbox?
Start over with a streaming service?
WTH is stems
I would like to know, is it possible to play a track on deck 1 and while the track is playing, record via Bluetooth, or is the deck blocked while recording Bluetooth on the omnis duo?
i own the prime go great device in my view
Great, great , great video! I am going to get the Pro Go as my primary backup unit. My main setup is a Denon prime 4+ running on Serato. I need a low cost standalone that I can run without my laptop for smaller gigs. I don't want to bring a $2K Prime 4, plus a $1K laptop to every gig.
In 2024 DJing for private events, The Mixstream Pro Go with a hotspot from my phone and Beatsource gives me the absolute freedom and confidence to play and have the tunes. I still bring my hard drive. Yes the mic option the Mixstream Pro Go is not the best, but I route that issue with my Numark Scratch.
Great video, as usual. You have cleared up most of my concerns. I'll wait for the upgraded (MK2) version of the Prime Go. I'm keeping my fingers and toes crossed Denon includes bigger jog wheels, mike EQ, and the same smooth integration with Virtual Dj. The inclusion of Serato might depend on the judge's ruling in the court case with InMusic. Engine Dj has become a force to reckon with in the past couple years. Hopefully, by the end of the Engine Dj Stems trial (I believe, it's still in Beta), Denon might incorporate some dedicated hardware buttons for Stems manipulation. Or they might go the on-screen Sampler route. 😊
Most importan advantage of the DENON is, that it is compact! Its footprint is exactly like a DIN A3 sheet of paper.
Considering HOW MANY user-requested Feature Updates were updated since the DENON DJ Prime GO came out, the price is more than worth the money. DENON added most important features and upgrades like meter volume for chan 1 and 2 (before it was only master volume meter). And they added a Sampler Feature to play one shot samples or full tracks from the sampler pads!!! I bought mine very late after it came out (end of 2023), and even till now (march 2024) there were another 2 firmware updates adding very useful new features and touchscreeen layout improvements that speed up your workflow!!! =DDD
Good morning!
I just watched your video . Since the release of the video, have you heard anything new from Denon regarding the Prime Go Mk2?
Btw, you were thinking of the lower-priced $699 Numark without a battery. Any thoughts on whether that should be considered?
Thank you, just what I needed.
Denon Prime Go Gang over here and it's the best purchase I've ever made for DJing! Aside from the placement of the jog wheels it's a flawless piece.
I wanna like the on omnouse but AT I believe design the nonstandard gear with no DJ input effects only on the screen and price are my only issues if it gets to 1199 I’d be more likely to buy
Buy a XDJ-RR with a 65W power delivery battery and a PD to DC 5 V, 9 V, 12 V, 15 V, 20 V Adaptor with all the plug adaptors coming with, very useful ! With my Soundboks I can mix anywhere
Can anyone give me an opinion about the pitch faders on Mixstream Pro Go ? I am considering buying it but I’ve heard they are a nightmare to work with
I want to start with DJing on birthdays, Weddings and so on. For me the Omnis Duo seems the Perfect one to start? Espacially the Bluetooth Feature. In a Small room it would definetley be okay to use 2 big Soundboks devices with the omnis duo… But the Price is high! Should I go with another standalone? I don’t want to take my Laptop With me. I want a standalone :)
Hi nice review , I want to go into mixing a bit in mine circus show so not looking to use pc and something like that to Carrie around which one you recommend is best for a zero knowledge person like me. Regards from croatia
Thanks for the comprehensive comparison! I don’t believe the Omnis Duo has key-shift/sync, do you think AT will add this in a firmware update?
My first mixer back in like 92’ was a purple Numark mixer. To this day I wish I didn’t sell it. I’ve had several numark pieces of gear and never ever been let down. Owned the denon prime 4. Not a fan. Never again. Pioneer is great but they just over charge for the name. Really don’t care what brand something is at my age. Really considering the numark for just playing around at home with zero hassle and also for streaming on twitch.
Does the Denon Prime Go have ball bearings? Can you do a wicked backspin?
Bloody great video. Real simple quick in depth about everything and easy to understand
I don’t think you spoke about the difference in hot cue pads. For me the mixstream pro requires a semi hard press to engage and it has a squishy feeling, it’s kind of annoying. Does the omnis duo have a more clicky feel unlike for example a rev 7 pad where its capacitive touch?
Omnis Duo has clicky style pads, not like the rev.
Appreciate this video but the 1 thing that turns me off with them all is, none of the crossfaders are “end user replaceable”!! It’s 2024 for crying out loud!! Why can’t they just make this standard?? I have had the MixStream for a year and a half now and the crossfader is completely dead now. Bleed on both sides. So as it stands now it is a $800 paperweight 🤦🏾♂️
I understand that.
Totally agree on the crossfader, I have the Mixstream Pro which I love but even when brand new the faders are simply quite bad, and would also have loved to replace them, which sucks that it ain't possible. However, I want to throw out a tip which saved me once I realized it - when fader started bleeding and thought it was game over, I bought a DeoxIT Fader F5 lubricant, and it completely solved the bleeding, both on my Mixstream Pro and my Reloop Beatpad 2. Might be worth a shot. They are as good as new now.
@@gmmigge tysm for this tip. is it avail to buy on Amazon?
@@donaldsmyth727 sorry, I have no clue - I bought it from a local retailer in Sweden. But it is relatively common in the music industry I think, because if I remember correctly it is used for other studio equipment as well, anything related to faders things like that
It’s weird you can’t EQ the microphone, they don’t is the same OS ? An update would fix that….
No. It’s a hardware issue.
I see a Prime Go / Prime 2 baby in the future!
🤷🏾♂️
I think the Onmi's price is high for the compromises that were made. No pad mode, and no xf paddles for a controller that is squarely in the pro gear price range? For the asking price, no compromises should have been made.
I rock my Go and I prefer gear that's built to last. Prime Go ain't built for scratchers so yeah i can see the annoyance with the jogs, but if you don't scratch (much), I think that guy is really gonna work for you
I own the denon prime go and a few months ago I was able to stream Beatsource and tidal at the same time, do you think this could be done on the new model pioneer unit?
We won't know until the update the OS but I'm going to assume yes to multiple streams.
Can you record your mix on the omnis duo?
Yes
Lovin' my DP- Go! Especially with the free online software updates
Exactly the Video i needed! liked and subscribed !! Cheers from Chile;)
Love my Denon just because how compact it is
What a great time to be alive and in the game
@ClevelandTerry ,Very GOOD Video !!
You didn't talk about the second FX part of the Stream Go and the Prime Go which is the Touch FX, a big plus!
They also have the Sampler function.
As for the non-existent Trim on the microphone parts of the Prime Go, for my part... I don't feel penalized!
I use Sennheiser EW100G4 HF microphones, they have 4 types of adjustment:
1 - Neutral (linear adjustment)
2 - Bass reduction
3 - Treble reduction
4 - Treble increase
PRO GO
I enjoyed owning the first gen Numark mixstream pro but tbh the sound quality from those xlrs wasn’t too good. I know its an entry level device so its great for what it is but its a point that not too many speak on. The other 2 will have a better dac for sure.
Do you think that stems will ever come to the Prime Go? Or is the processor too weak and we have to wait for Prime Go v2?
@@DouglasPaterson I think it’s coming. I believe they are going to port the stems from their MPC line. It’s on their production standalones.
you have many errors in your video. the prime go does not have 2 usb ports. it has a SD card and one usb port.. the Numark does have 8 hot cues if you change layers not 4. the processor in the numark is faster than the prime go (it can decode amazon music the prime go cant).
It’s is absolutely fact that the numark has a weaker processor. Not sure where you got that info.
The chip for Amazon Music is nothing to do with the CPU. It's a separate chip. The main processors are the same.
Great comparison video , thanks !!!!!!!!!!!
What about the soundcard of each and the quality when using it on a big sound system?
I said it in the video. More expensive ones sound good, cheaper one needs help.
Missed you at NAMM, wish you came to my booth. 😁🙏🏽
Bro I missed all the booths.
Great review Terry! I think so Denon units are much better units than Pioneer's [because of components]. Denon have better DAC's [AK with dynamics 110dB vs BurrBrown 102dB we can find in RX3]. CPU are better too in Denon - Rockchip comes from 2017, XR3 and other ones from family xdj have CPU MCIMX6Q6AVT10AD from....2012. In my home studio I got PrimeGO. SC Live 4 and RX3. Prime Go have one more serieous lack /besides mic EQ/ - there is no peak led for every LINE /even just one LED like in mic input!/ we dont know when we have internally distorted signal. Because of this is recommended to keep GAIN knob no more than 11 o'clock.. Regards from Poland
I ended up here because I travel a lot for work. Will the midstream pro go be my best option for traveling and scratching
Practicing yes, scratching no
Hi what is the max size sd card that I can use in the Ominis duo. Thanks.
I've used mine with a 1TB SD with zero issues, and 2TB drives (such as the Samsung T7/SanDisk Extreme) fine - it takes a little time to read, but works flawlessly once it has indexed the drives/SD cards, no issues at all 👍