Two More Business Owners Burned By Jaclyn Hill - EXCLUSIVE Interviews
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Also for anyone wanting to support Gaby, her Facemaster brush has been loved and used by celebrity artists. I just got mine and can’t wait to showcase and support!!
Thank you 🙏🏻 so much for inspiring us and been so amazing. If you told me 10 years ago I’ll be speaking with Marlena and she will be supporting my brand I wouldn’t believe it 🥹 so I think there’s a brighter side and i fell really thankful for this opportunity 💕 millions of blessings for you
The eye blender I swear is magic !! It’s been my fave for 5 years
TY GUYZ!!!! Placing my order today! ❤🎉
I'm going to buy one today!
You know I will! I bought a couple of full sets of the Anisa Beauty brushes because of you. Marlena, THANK YOU for supporting women owned brands. You, Jen and Gabby are wonderful role models for our younger generation. ❤
Side note: Gerard lipliner formula is hands down best formula I’ve tried. My fave color right now is sugar and spice ❤
I love Gerard. The customer service is great too! We had some products arrive without lights working for the lipsticks - and got replacements soo quickly
My late Mom, Niece and I went to The first Phame Expo and My Mom loved 🙏🏻💖🌸 the Gerard Cosmetics lip products with lights .. great products !
Cher here😁
Marlena, you are an icon of building up other women.❤
@@PinkAngel1111very sorry for your loss ❤
Jen is not lying when she says she didn’t care about numbers of ppl she’d work with or help out. I remember I ordered from Gerard and they forgot a lipgloss so I DMed her. She wrote back and seen my IG and that I was into makeup and would post makeup. and not only sent me the one they missed she sent me their whole line and she followed my IG and supported me. ( btw I only had 3,000 followers) she’s so kind. It’s sad to see people like Jaclyn take advantage of these sweet women owned businesses who are all girls girls.
It's so sad and ironic that a lot of people defended Jaclyn in the koze situation because she "didn't have a trademark" but Gaby DID have one and STILL got screwed over by Jaclyn. So messed up
Exactly the reason why I’m telling my story 💕 right on point
I hope EVERYONE who I see saying "BuT sHe dIdN't TrAdEmArK iT" sees this video and it is drilled into their skulls that trademarking is not only incredibly difficult and expensive, but also does NOT give you any sort of automatic protection! It just gives you the upper hand in litigation, and if you can barely afford the trademark process then you surely can't afford the subsequent legal fees. Also Gaby's story shed light on to why Kaylen changed her name - it wasn't for legal reasons (we now see Jaclyn never even got the TM for Koze granted), it was because of SEO. A bigger creator using the same name automatically pushes you down in the search results and destroys your brand recognition. Even with Gaby doing "everything right", this still made a huge impact on her business. Jaclyn obviously knows this and still carried on happily, even gleefully, while sh*tting on other creators. She is vile.
@@lucyjane3803 that was perfectly explained thank you for taking the time to do so 🙏🏻💕
It's crazy tho cuz Jaclyn also didn't have it trademarked, but pretended to after Kaylyn reached out asking her to reconsider the name.
We should all collectively support these brands that Jaclyn ruined! These brands are all QUALITY products and shame on her for what she did and is continuing to do.
Yep - I just went to Gabys site and purchased 2 of the mini brushes (I can’t afford the full size right now 😂).
@@JulieNick28 thank you so so much I hope you love them and it means a lot to me 🙏🏻 very grateful
AGREE!!!!
@@JulieNick28I just want to say, everyone reading this, guys don't feel pressured to spend money to "support" anyone. I get they are people behind business but it's still a business. They have a marketing, they have everything. Not everyone is lucky enough to have money for spending and financially sometimes its better to save money if you need or spend on necessities and that's fine. Buy product because you like it and can stand behind supporting the brand.
@@bonjourista agree 100%. I only bought what I could afford and that was the mini version. I trust Marlena’s opinion and am looking forward to trying it. I needed a new foundation brush anyway ❤️
It honestly makes me sick to think I ever supported Jaclyn. I work the back end of influencer marketing so I’m not oblivious to the business side of things. It’s so disheartening to hear how she speaks about her fans.
That's the lottery ticket of liking being a Fan of anyone or thing. Just enjoy as long as you can, there is a reason am happy many of my Artist haven't shared their opinions on certain things yet, for better or worse, I am 90% convinced at least 90% of westernized, americanized, europeanized, modernized people would be and will be hurt if they will hear those for the first time in their lifes and I am not excluding tis lil body of mine.
Jacklyn has built up A LOT of bad karma.
That’s because you can’t bite the hand that feed you, and she did with people all the time she’s so rude, and she has no feelings for anybody. She’s had a heart of stone.
It is not going to be nice when karma comes to collect, she isn’t nice.
@@HellsFurby nope she’s a heartless person who is rotten to the core
Exactly what I was thinking! It’s going to be bad.
I hope it's not her future children if she has any who pays the piper because that's usually how that works. At least from what I have seen.
I love this interview, thank you gals for shining light on these situations.
I still have the very first lipgloss, that Jen gifted me waaayyyy back in the very early days and as a small Irish RUclipsr at the time I was in shock they actually sent me something, so I keep it for the memories AND the light inside still works all these years later! 🙌
Omg I so remember you !! Joy loved working with you ❤
@@JenGerard I’m so sorry that Jaclyn did this-you seem lovely ❤️ she’s stepped on the necks of many women and her day of reckoning is long overdue.
@@Nosillamp it’s sad that she’s still crushing other women 😭
@@JenGerard Marlena, Kaylin, You and Gaby are on your way to put a stop to this hopefully... It's sad cause I used to watch jacqueline back in her early days, i loved her, she was my comfort YTber. She could be at the very top today had she acted just like a decent human being.
I just want to say Jen is one of the loveliest people I have ever met in this industry❤ The kindness and genuine helpfulness that exudes from her is so refreshing. I am so glad she is getting to speak her truth on a large platform…and Jen is incredibly graceful in the way she speaks about these issues❤ This is amazing. WE LOVE YOU JEN.
Love you girl ❤
Mallory, I LOVED your video about Jaclyn!
@@JenGerardI agree with Mallory! I remember interacting with you a few years back on Twitter when I was more active on there. Also when I was still under my actual name, Mariah, before I was under Petty Crocker. I was never an influencer. I was more of a watcher with a makeup obsession. & you still were so nice to me. I’ve came across a lot of business owners who only cared to interact with influencers & people in general that have a large following. You never cared & interacted with all of us no matter how big or small. & some convos didn’t even involve makeup. Some were just random convos. Like I had one with you about noisy neighbors.😂 I appreciated that so much. It made me respect you & your brand even more! You are a lot more humble. You didn’t let it all go to your head & get on a power trip.
Why does she keep mumbling, gah I have to turn the volume way up
@@tanyadupras4379 Seems like you're the only one having that problem. She sounds fine to me.
I worked with Jaclyn at Woodfield mall and why was she lying about loving Ulta and she was on food stamps? It’s called the link card. I was broke with 2 kids and I couldn’t get a damn link card. How the F did she get approved? I call BS. Doesn’t matter. She’s one of those people who lie about everything for no reason. She was so rude to me when I joined Mac. I need my job and knew she would lie on me to get me fired in a heartbeat. I continued to turn a blind eye to her eye rolls and whispering behind my back. She was able to hide her true colors for a long time. Glad to see women coming together the support each other! She’s always been super fake and all around shady AF.
Girl , Paige Christie and Dustin Dailey are going to finish the Here for the Tea documentary about Jaclyn’s snakiness . They should interview you
@@Arieldreams1AGREED!
I’m so glad that Jen did this. Had the wrong impression of her for years and it’s good to have the true story.
right? Jaclyn was totally ok letting Jen take the fall for no reason.
Yess, you literally snatched the words out of my mind
Yes ! Me too
Not only was this a platform to share her story, but very informative for emergencies. I would’ve never thought to have emergency leashes (always figured the dogs would be right next to us), but now I’ve packed an emergency bag and have emergency leashes next to me
I am so glad ! I hope you never need those emergency leashes but so glad you will have them
My house burned down in 2014 & unfortunately lost 1 of my dogs in the fire & I got a lil burned saving my other dog. She was so scared she didn't want to come out from under the bed & I was struggling to get her. Almost had to leave her behind but lucky I still have her
Yes! We have two cats and my fiancé and I already discussed exactly who goes to get which cat god forbid something happens but now we will be keeping our carriers upstairs near us instead of the basement. We have leashes in a closet in between the living room and bedroom where they are at 95% of the time, but with cats it’s honestly easier to just grab them, shove them into the carrier and run. Thank you Jen, I’m sorry to hear about the fire and Nick’s cats 💔
@@Cinply_Cinthia I am so sorry for your loss 😭😭 Big hugs to you and your puppy and RIP to your lost angel 🐶
Jaclyn is so entitled and self-involved. She's not fooling anymore anymore. Seems like karma is coming back on her. Honestly, I do not like how her makeup looks and never have anyways.
Facts!! She’s so outdated - stuck forever in 2015. I love Karma coming her way- she is VILE!! She has stepped on so many people …. Makes me sick
Pffttt unfortunately she has many 🐑 that are up her 🍑 still.
You're right and her engagement is so far down. She still has a lot millions of "followers" but there sure aren't millions watching her anymore
She is definitely fooling people still unfortunately
Whatever Jaclyn touches turns into mold. Makeup Geek, Gerard, Becca, Morphe!! Is anyone else seeing this horrid pattern? She truly appears to be a bad person.
And her own brands
What happened to Becca?
@@bitsofkharisma3881they closed. Lost customers after working with jaclyn and then Covid hit and they went under
I stand with Marlena, Jen, Gaby & Kaylen. I respect you all & will support you & your brands forever.❤ Off to buy some new makeup & brushes.🎉
So exciting thank you so so much 🥺🙏🏻💕💕💕💕💕 means everything
So basically Jacklyn has not had one original idea yet and has stolen pretty much everything! Still has the audacity to play victim.
@GabyRosMakeup2412 I am SO happy that your story is being heard. I know it doesn’t make up for the financial and emotional damage she caused you, but you have something Jaclyn will NEVER have - Integrity, kindness, and genuine passion for what you do 💗
@@aleciaharmon Jacklyn couldn't come up with an original idea if one popped up out of one of her Birkins & bit her on the nose.😂
I remember not purchasing from Gerard Cosmetics because of this. 😢 Jaclyn had me TOTALLY fooled until lipstickgate. Poor Jen! She is so sweet. I would be honored to be her friend. Even to this day I never looked back into Gerard Cosmetics. I only started hearing about them again because of Emily D Baker.
Same!!!!
Me too!!!
Can I just say for one, I LOVE that brand owners are NOW holding her accountable. I wish more people had spoken up before now because I feel like a dumbass for supporting her as long as i did. I stopped supporting her right around her first pallet collab with morphe came out.I think the pallette that leaked on the cake was the last thing i purchased in relation to her. Sad to see what makeup has come to now.
Back then ppl tore anyone apart for daring to speak anything negatively about her.
UGH Jaclyn tried to do the same thing to Kathleen Lights when she recorded her singing!!!
Yep that was no accident.
That was such a disgusting thing Jaclyn did. She was even asked to not post it and she said she wouldn’t and then she did. 🐍
It’s not Jaclyn’s fault that Kathleen said the n word.
@@ladybug6892 no one said it was.
😱 woah... Makes you wonder if this same tactic was done by Manny 🤯
WE STAND WITH YOU QUEENS! 💜
thank you all for being brave and honest and sharing your stories with us.
wishing you all only the happiest, positive outcomes this year xoxo
It's so crazy how JH has nothing to say when anyone comes forward but she'll put all her energy into calling out faceless people for accusing her of being a liar, selling contaminated lipsticks, etc.
Cause in her eyes she’s done nothing wrong. She’s in denial. She’ll never own up to it
It’s because she has zero receipts to counter with.
Textbook narcissist
She delulu. It runs in the family lol. Jaclyn’s sister is a weirdo too
as someone who grew up in tahoe, do not drink the lake water! just because it’s clear doesn’t mean it doesn’t have bacteria!!
If Jaclyn Shill was putting morals above money wtf was she asking for "severance pay" for? Then lying in a video to gain favor over an audience. Gosh I just can't believe how twisted someone can truly be & still believe that they are always in the right. I would love to see her get humbled SOON.
It’s happening!!! She is having to close all her brands because they are no longer selling. She can’t close jaclyn cosmetics because she never owned it and now the world knows about it (except for her delusional fans). I guarantee that once the well runs dry and there’s no money left, that husband of hers is going to leave. He gives me such sleazy salesman vibes. I think he’s full of it.
Thank you for using your platform to shed light on this situation. I am a publicist as well as a certified makeup artist. My mind is boggled by how Jaclyn has treated women in the industry and how she's manipulated her subscribers. Not even just from a PR perspective but a human perspective. She really seems like she's not a nice person and I am glad people are finally starting to see that. So glad beautiful Jen Gerard shared her truth and I need to order some of those glosses!!
Jen Gerard and Marlena Stell have shown such amazing grace and class throughout all of this. To me it really shows how much integrity they have.
I will always support that when I am choosing where to spend my money. I am really looking forward to seeing Marlena's new ventures and supporting Gerard cosmetics, (I'm already window shopping online) and I hope their sales go through the roof!!
I agree! I have supported Marlena/ Makeup Geek in the past and will continue to do so with any new venture!!!
Just had a REALLY hard morning in court for a client and I just got back to my office and see that the sesh is premiering, so excited to sit down relax and do my paperwork to my favorite podcast🙏
That’s how I feel after a long day in the ED 🥰 ( Emergency Dept)
@@kat0726 I appreciate you for all you do!!! Nurses and doctors amaze me 💕✨
girl same (cps 🫠🫠)
Same!! Except Real Estate 😊
Jaclyn will never understand she did something wrong. Shes proved who she is in her 10 years of being on the Internet. Her fans need to wake up.
I can’t believe anyone is financially still backing JH. What a risk? I wouldn’t if I was investing. In less than a year, she steals a brand name and then immediately drives it into the ground. Why would anyone give her money? Insane.
This is absolutely disgusting hearing how much Jaclyn and Morphe made off of stealing Gaby’s brush name. Even more disgusting nobody wants to do the right thing here and compensate Gaby for her losses. I am sick over this for her. This was a calculated move and we all know it. Poor Gaby.
Thank you for being so emphatic 🥺 no one can really understand how hurtful it was for me and my brand. And the worst thing is that I spent every penny on lawyers just to be swipe under the rug so I ended up with my trademark stolen, my brush hidden from people so no sales, and all my savings gone 😢 and almost nobody knew I felt so impotent
@@GabyRosMakeup2412awful! Are things getting better now?! 😢
@@GabyRosMakeup2412horrible how Jaclyn handled this! And without compensating you even for sales from her brushes with that label… shame on her!
An apology without changed behavior is just manipulation
Isn’t it interesting how fame and money will make someone’s true personality come out? Jaclyn loves to talk about how she used to be broke but that obviously didn’t make any kind of real impact on her cuz the second she got some notoriety, she let her nastiness lead her. The only thing keeping her going is her audience who have no morals just like her and likely treat others the same way she does. Vibration matches vibration.
The only followers who defend her anymore are probably ones she buys. More people are starting to call her crap out and she is losing engagement big time. I don’t think she will last much longer
seriously! $600K with this relatively "small" collab is an absolutely insane amount of money! she is incredibly ungrateful.
@@camiehatfield interesting cuz every time I look at her comments it’s all positive reinforcement for her. Maybe this time people will truly stop giving this woman money and platform
@@alleyj826If you go to a lot of her most recent posts there are people all over the place giving her crap especially with Jen, Gaby, and Marlena speaking out recently. Of course there are those that are still in denial about what is going on and acting like she can do no wrong but I think a lot of people are over the nonsense. I just watched the video where Jen and Gaby spoke out and am in the process of throwing all my Jaclyn products out. Its one thing to make mistakes and another to trash other business owners like Jaclyn did. It was an eye opener to the kind of person Jaclyn is and actual messages and emails are read out so people can’t defend her on that. Just horrible situation and I can’t fathom how Jaclyn can sleep at night knowing the things she has done and continues to do to people. Sorry for the long reply lol
@alleyj826 comments on her socials are probably heavily moderated and that's why you only see the positive ones.
Love the way Jen has carried herself through this whole topic . Much respect
I worked at the Morphe warehouse in Rialto CA with the 3PL Radial who shipped for Morphe and I can confirm that those packages never left the warehouse despite the drama and all of Jaclyn Hill lipsticks were still in the warehouse I think two years after lipstick gate
Fascinating how similar Marlena's story is. "I thought we were best friends." Jaclyn is a good con artist
I'm currently buying a cat carrier that can fit 4 cats just in case of an emergency like this. this just broke my heart 🥺 my heart goes out to you ❤
That’s what I have! I have 3 indoors kitties and 4 outdoor and even though I’m sure the outdoor kitties will take off to safety if something happens, I’m gonna buy more just in case 🥺
Thank you for doing this !!! I am so glad you won’t have to go through what we did 😢
Gonna need Jens highlight info ✨🤩
I feel so horrible for Gaby😢 she is a smaller creator and she got backed into a corner, that’s heart breaking. I hope her sales skyrocket after this podcast💗
Thank you 🙏🏻 I felt very diminished and frustrated every time I saw the traffic in my store gone and everyone doing reviews for their FaceMaster collection 😭 I though everything I did was for nothing… I just feel so grateful now that people can know my story is very relieving
SO proud of these brave ladies for coming forward. Jen, you’re amazing.
Marlena, you’re an icon & have lead the way.♥️
i’m sure jen has done a lot more tbh but this just hasn’t aged well and then i thought about you guys collabing with her and idk 👀👀👀 y’all should say something like we disavow this idiot
I met Jaclyn in Miami a few months after the morphe pallet came out when I was out to eat. I wasn’t the hugest fan of her but something about that morphe pallet hooked me so I had bought it during launch. Funny enough I was actually wearing the pallet when I met her, had a nice Smokey eye cut crease with a nice sharp wing. She had caught me off guard saying “your eyes look amazing” while we were both entering the restaurant and I informed her that it was her pallet and said thank you. Well when I went into the bathroom mid-dinner, she was in one the the stalls and I’m assuming one of her friends was in the other so I was waiting patiently, just messing around on my phone. I overheard them talking and Jaclyn said “I can’t stand running into subs in public, specially the ones who think they can do my pallet justice. Did you see that girls jacked up face.” And they just laughed and kept talking shit. When she exited the stall, she smiled and acted as if I didn’t hear her. That’s when I lost all respect for her as a “creator” and vowed to never buy anything with her name attached. That was the only pallet I took on vacation and I was so upset by her words, I didn’t even do my makeup the rest of the week. When everything started to blow up about her, I wasn’t even surprised. Just sad that she has done all these women and their businesses wrong. She will never apologize, that’s not in her character to do so. She’s just going to smile and continue to ignore it, just like she did to me in the bathroom.
Wow! 😮 I'm so sorry I threw her palette away after all this stories! She's a horrible person.
@@makeupby_montselezamaabsolutely agree, she’s an awful human and I’m a firm believer of what goes around comes around. She’s getting the karma she has deserved for almost a decade. I couldn’t throw it away because I had a hard time pitching something I only used 4-5 times although I really wanted to. I actually did FX make up as a hobby at that time and to make a little extra cash around Halloween. I literally put that pallet in the kit with that makeup because the matte colors worked great for bruises and matching skin tones for latex wounds just so I could get my moneys worth.
I'm sorry that happened to you...Seriously so mean....❤
She really thinks she’s so special.
This is unbelievable! JH has gone too far.
We need to backtrack to this because Jen is a foul women who is refusing to take pictures of someone’s deceased family member off of her business page and is still using her images to promote her brand even when the family has asked her several times to remove these photos and she has told them she doesn’t have to. She wants people to empathize with her for the wrong that’s been done to her but she won’t empathize with a family who is grieving. It’s disgusting.
All of this 👆🏼
Yes she is lacking in ethics and morality big time. Honestly I’m not surprised they are supporting her because Kendall her self is quite shady.
@@Hillcountry_Catholic I’m not sure what you are referring to regarding Kendall but I don’t think that is a very fair comment to make in this situation because this interview and video was made before any of this stuff about Jen was brought to life however I do think they need to revisit the fact that they have helped platform and endorse her and her brand.
I was gonna say, at the very end when she was talking about hair AF…. Made me nauseous
I didn't know Jon named Rose Hill. At the time I wanted it but couldn't afford it. I stopped supporting Jaclyn about 7 years ago. I want to buy Rose Hill now to support Jen and also to honor Jon for naming it. I hope everyone affected by her can overcome in their own way that brings them happiness
Kendall and Janelle, thank you for giving all types of creators a platform. It means so much to see you guys lifting small creators (hispanic / latinx creators!!) to the same level as Marlena and Jen. You guys seem like salt of the earth people, thank you for being you! & thank you to Marlena, Jen and Gaby for speaking out. Uno tiene que ser muy valiente para hablar en la forma que se habló. Estoy tan orgullosa de ti Gaby, en particular.
Muchas gracias 😢 he estado muy muy emocional 🥹 es como algo en el pecho que no se describir… como ganas de abrazar a mi yo del pasado en esos momentos tan duros… me sentí tan sola y como si todo lo que había luchado no significaba nada 😢 por mucho tiempo calle porque me caían en montones pero de verdad tener esta oportunidad y que más personas sepan la verdad y hasta prevenir futuros emprendedores pasa lo mismo, se que vale la pena 🙏🏻 y me siento aliviada y agradecida.
As a Latina who knows how fucking HARD my people work to make it in this country, it INFURIATES me how Jaclyn and Morphe stepped all over Gaby. Karma is so real and they deserve their downfall. They really thought they could get away with stepping all over anyone in their way to make their way to the top and just like that they’re now both irrelevant. And thanks to these brave women finally speaking up, their brands will finally get the recognition they deserved all along. Unfortunately, while we should’ve been supporting them we were all being consumed by Jaclyn and Morphe. It is so sad to realize everything that was really going on during that time.
Thank you so much for your message, I really leave my soul in that litigation was so draining to know I was right I couldn’t continue fighting but I guess the everything have a reason and I time 🤷🏻♀️ my best friend told me she thinks Morphe push an over consumption, production, promotion that saturated the people plus deals offering millions to influencers really messed up the beauty community and I think she might be right it’s like nobody wants any more launches now 😂
Girl yes 👏 and you
That clip of the snap chat she posted about severing ties with Gerard is mean girl vibes.
She’s the worst kind of mean girl, the two faced one who will stab you in the back and make the people in the same room witnessing it somehow feel like she’s the victim. We all knew girls like her in school!
She got a big head on her when she started making money and started stepping on the people who helped and supported her.
I still wish Nicole Guerrero would air out whatever happened between them!
The brazen falsities, lies, no accountability, manipulation and non stop pushing of products is just all way too much.
I forgot about Nicole and Jaclyn omg
Also wish Jackie Riley would
Definitely waiting for Nicole as well.
I didn’t know Gabby’s story till now and man, I feel for her. A person of color thriving, doing things right legally and lawfully, getting stomped on by Jaclyn and Morphe is heartbreaking. “Continue suing us” is legit so arrogant. I’m happy that she’s already speaking up. I hope her business thrives… and for Gen and Gerard cosmetic, as well.
I didn't either but it broke my heart to hear the pain in her voice about it
I supported Jaclyn through all these years Jen Gerard is talking about and truly believed everything she said. I feel so bamboozled! I’m so sorry Jen.
Thank you for being basically the only channel that covers Jaclyn’s problematic behaviours and past. Im sick of her getting away with it and laughing all the way to the bank.
There r so many channels that call out JH’s problematic behaviors. Peter Monn, Rich Lux, Spill Sesh, Tea Spill, etc
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, Kendall and Janelle, for featuring these truly phenomenal women. I’m so impressed with their poise and brilliance. I was unaware of Gaby and her brand, but i’m so excited to try it! Thank you to Marlena for posting her support in the comments. She started this train rolling with you gals, and i’m so proud of her. I’m an esthetician and makeup artist, and will begin making these gals’ brands staples in my kit.
Love to see women supporting women and lifting each other up! I’m shocked at how many women Jaclyn has stepped on and ruined their businesses! Imagine having so much audacity! All that, and she claims to be a girl’s girl, a boss b*tch, etc. It’s such a shame that Jaclyn is such an awful person. She’s a very talented person and she does have great taste in makeup, appliances, kitchen gadgets, etc.
Gerard cosmetics was my all time fave 😭❤️ when her lipstick bullets came out I remember stocking up and getting some for my mom and I was showing them to her like “these are LUXURY lipsticks and you can tell” because the gold tube was so beautiful and had a little weight to it, I loved it. Also loved the peach setting mist 🥰 what an icon. I’m glad she was able to come on and talk about her story, it takes a lot of strength and she’s incredible. Also just a huge sweetheart.
You are too kind !!! Thank you so much ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for having all of these outstanding women on to tell their stories. It is incredible! The wake of destruction of brands that she has created is shocking. And without a care. The energy you put out comes back to you.
I hope she turns it around.
It’s 5am in Australia and I just woke up and made coffee while my baby is still sleeping so this is perfect timing 😊
I haven't been a Jaclyn fan for 10+ years so nothing she does surprises me, however this episode brought me to tears. I can't believe everything that people have gone through because of her shitty ways! ugh I'm so upset.
FYI - the person who filmed that Snapchat and posted it w/o Jen’s permission was none other than Manny MUA, one of Jaclyn’s besties. He’s a snake just like JH is, and I don’t think enough ppl r realizing who posted the Snapchat. Jen Gerard doesn’t seem to think Manny did it on purpose, but after seeing all the rest of his problematic behavior over the years, I do!
Agree a 💯
Yep, for a while I really thought he has changed but he continues to support and shout out Jaclyn. I was so disappointed cause I know Manny has potential to be a very nice decent human being.
@@gabrielachavez8982 MannyMUA also continues to support child pr3dators like James Charles. It took him 3 months to unfollow Colleen Ballinger, another child pr3dator. I think who MannyMUA tries to pretend he is (decent human being) is not who he really is behind the scenes. There’s WAY too much problematic shady crap in his present and past.
I just dropped out of college to go home to community college in my first week and I’ve been so stressed and having panic attacks. I felt so guilty about giving up some of my scholarships that I’ve gotten. My mental health just got worse and worse. I cried every day that I was here and listening to old podcasts from the sesh and mile higher just calmed me down and helped me to actually unpack and pack up again. I withdrew today and exactly an hour before I went to sign my paperwork, the power plant caught fire and the cooling systems and hot water went down campus wide. I don’t have air conditioning in my dorm anyways so it didn’t affect me but I’m taking it as a sign. Thanks for providing some comfort to all of us who are struggling.
Sorry that you're going through so many stressful things right now. If it's any consolation, I almost failed out of the most important class for my major & I was beyond stressed in those moments. I'm in my 30's now, & that's a tiny blip in the past that I don't even think of anymore. All that to say, you're doing the right thing by prioritizing yourself. Sending love & hope things ease up soon 💕
There is absolutely no shame in making choices for the betterment of your mental health, and I think you probably made the right one. This was a few years back, but I dropped out of my first university a month into my second semester there and came back home to attend community college because of how badly i was doing mentally, so I completely relate. Sometimes certain schools or programs just aren’t the right fit for a person, and there’s no use in staying miserable. I wish you nothing but the best and hope you will find comfort being back at home 💜
@@belindarocky961thank you. I came home yesterday and am already doing much better.
@@emmaclarecthank you. I’m doing much better.
Thank you everyone. I'm behind in the live, but I want everyone to know I appreciate all of you. I supported this person, until I realized what kind of human she was. I recently made a sale purchase, just to see...and that's all I'll say.
After hearing about Jen in Dustin’s videos, drama channels covering jaclyn situation etc, for years, it is so good to put a face to the name. I really enjoyed learning her story and thankful she is out here sharing it. Also I’ve never heard Gaby’s unfortunate story before this video… wow. Strong and beautiful women! It’s almost hard to keep track of Jaclyn’s messiness at the point. I used to be a huge fan and look up to her for years. It’s so sad to see how people act for money when they camera isn’t on. Thank you guys for another great video!
Thank you for hosting Jen & Gaby. How many millions did Jaclyn Hill cost other companies? It is disgusting hearing how she shat on so many people that had gone out of their way to help her. How easy would it have been for her to gracefully exit? Why was a match, & can of gasoline, her preferred tools?
Never knew how bad Jaclyn Hill effed over Jen/Gerard Cosmetics! Absolutely horrible!!!
I'm curious your thoughts on her now. I was out of the loop until I saw Nick Miller's recent videos about her and I'm shock what has transpired.
I loved this podcast episode and now I feel so duped by her. She seems to have turned on a lot of people.
Jaclyn uses the word “create” the way Amber Heard uses “pledged”. Slapping a name on something someone else made isn’t “creating”. She didn’t even name it! Jon did!
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The sesh is the only thing that can make my mood go from 0-100. I love you guys missed ya last week!!!❤
Omg I love Jen! I’m so happy she got to tell her side. To be honest, Jaclyn is the reason I never purchased from Gerard cosmetics because she made the company seem so shady and like the owner was some terrible person. Wow. I’ll gladly be supporting Gerard cosmetics from now on! What an eye opener and I’m amazed at how many people Jaclyn is able to fool daily. She doesn’t realize how much damage her lies are doing to people and their livelihood. I remember Vegas nay! I bought her too faced collab and it was my favorite. I wont get rid of it because of nostalgia even tho it is deff expired lol
Jen sounds like the sweetest, supportive mom 😊. Sophia Chang💕. Ok side note, Jen's highlighter is OUT OF THIS WORLD. Jaclyn COULD NEVER. Literally
I have zero stake in the beauty community, but I’m so proud of you all for bringing this to our attention.
Don't forget what she did to Kathleen Lights
Ahh yes… “accidentally” posting that video online of her saying a word that of course would get attention
yes that sounds just like JEN's snapchat story!!
In Jen’s case, it was MannyMUA who posted the Snapchat w/o her permission, just FYI.
Yikes 🥴 This aged like milk. Jen is a horrible person and is out here spreading lies about someone’s sobriety. Gross
She’s a hot gross mess!!
Swim nappies are for keeping the poop in. They aren't meant to absorb anything 😊
This^^^
Jen’s law nerd cup! Love when my RUclips favorites come together.
Emily is the best !
Gaby has got to be one of the KINDEST women ever. Her taking care of the sick person during the ny trip, her shuttling everyone around and missing events to help others... she is just so sweet. I truly appreciate good hearted people like her 💓💓💓
Jen seems like such a genuine, good friend and person. I have followed Nick & Dustin for years and I felt so awful to see what they all went through last summer.😢 Her highlighter is AMAZING
Jen’s highlight is amazing, you’re right! I was thinking maybe I could wear highlight like that. It’s gorgeous on her.
I love this interview but it was annoying trying to pick up what Jen is saying. Please adjust the mic position o the speaker moving forward. The audio is good then slowly fades as she speaks .
how do you guys feel about collaborating with her now that she is revealed to be horrible?
Thanks for letting Jen share her story . Jen you are a great person and handled the situation with grace and shared your story and really showed what kind of person you are . As far as Jaclyn eventually things are going to fall . She can’t continue with the way she handles brands people . Every launch she has had has had a problem . I wish you the best in your business and your personal life . I love ya.
I don’t think i’ve ever clicked on a video faster 💀 I’m so happy to see these amazing women finally speaking up for themselves 🎉
Two very wise brand owners wishing them all the support and admiration they deserve 💓
Thanks for your kind words 🙏🏻💕💕💕💕 tons of love for you
And what Jen said about taking care of customers and getting them their orders is 100% true! I did have an order that was missing a gloss that I ordered, I emailed them, they responded and apologized for the mishap and IMMEDIATELY shipped me the missing item. I love Gerard cosmetics and their customer service!
2:24:57 You can hear the pain in her heart🥺 as she talks about letting go of her trademark to help her company, her dream survive.
28:17 I just want to say that I recently lost my cat of 9 years to a housefire. The loss, and the guilt, can be overwhelming at times. I tried to save him, I did what I could, but the smoke and flames that had breached the living room were too much. For anyone else in a similar situation, please know that they love you. Try to remember the times you loved them, so that it does not overwhelm the grief and loss you feel. I appreciate her speaking so openly about the experience, as well. It can be extremely traumatic
This is one of the best interviews I've seen. Thank you Sesh, Jen and Gabby for discussing this. Honesty is so needed in the world we live in. ❤
Girl just got a new customer. Love seeing real people in business.
In the Netherlands we have an expression that literally translates to somebody moving across corpses to get to where they want to go and it's the perfect way to describe jaclyn: she tramples anyone that's in her way and uses them to get what she wants. It's giving vampire by Olivia rodrigo.
I knew there was something I didn’t like about Jaclyn. Through her videos I felt like I was watching a mean girl trying to be my friend and sell me advice that would ultimately doom me….and even then I still bought her brushes because I needed new brushes, got caught up in the morphs hype, and not knowing about Gaby. I hate that I gave her my money and supported her. This is why I loved this video, it’s a real eye opener because as a consumer I want to support people that have morals, give back to their community, and are passionate about what they do. I’ve always supported Marlena, but Jen and Gaby have a new supporting costumer! Thank you, the sesh, for doing this
I think what you are doing bringing these women on to share their story is VERY important. Big companies really do a lot of harm and people need to know. Even as a past employee of a large corporation we are treated unfairly in so many ways. I gave 14 years in IT to a company (more than 40 hours a week) to be dropped like I meant nothing because the bottom line is $$$ and how they look to the stock market. I think it’s time the underdogs stand up.
This world doesn’t deserve you Jen🥺you’re the sweetest human I know!
A CEO of a brand that can only text and just isn’t good at phone calls… ok Jaclyn 👌
These are the sweetest most supportive ladies in business. I wish they were the loudest voices in this space - it would truly make the beauty industry actually beautiful. I can’t wait to support their businesses.
Wow, Gabys story is really sad too. Like Marlena she lost business. And to hear that morphe and jaclyn didn't care is so wrong. I'm glad she spoke out bc I had no idea this happened.
You know.. all these years of being a makeup lover and makeup RUclips watcher… I’ve never bought from Gerard cosmetics. I’m going to place an order now. I’ve always thought JH wasn’t genuine without the controversies. But my fiancés dad had a phrase we always say in this house.. it’s not how bad you mess up.. it’s how good you fix it.
Jen.. you are a classy and clearly what I call “good people”. I’m glad you spoke out. Sending love your way. ❤
Seeing all these women supporting each other in this industry is absolutely amazing! ❤
Like Jen said, when you remain true to yourself & who you are as a person. The people who have done others wrong, it will come out eventually. Whatever is done in the dark, will always come to light!
Us as viewers/consumers have the right to support whoever we like. However, when people show you who they are, believe them the first time.
Editing in: Btw, I love the Law Nerd cup, Jen! ❤ You are truly a gem & have been a blessing to the beauty space!
Does anyone remember back in 2018, when Here for the Tea and Tea Spill collaborated to release some info about Jaclyn Hill and the first video released, that’s how we all found out about how she did Marlena. But they never released the rest of the series because someone threatened them? Someone should find out what happened. 😂
I do remember! The story at the time was Jeffree Star called them both and told them to stop because Jacklyn was in a “dark place.” I’m not sure how true that is but that was what we gathered. I’m not sure how true it is, but it tracks a little because…for someone who is all about the bottom line, she refuses to turn on Jeffree probably because she owes him. That’s just my personal conspiracy, I have no proof of this.
I remember that!!!!
I remember that JH’s Snapchat stories were obnoxious around the time that news broke that the rest of the series wouldn’t be released. She looked like the cat that ate the canary, so to speak.
Dustin Dailey said he’ll be releasing it
@@Amanda-qz3zhare you serious?
Gaby just won a new follower and customer. I can't wait for my brush to come in!
I never bought the morphe x Jaclyn brush collection bc of the poor quality of Morphe Brushes and now I am happy I never contributed to that terrible injustice they did to Gaby but now I can purchase the TRUE Face master brush ❤❤❤
I just saw this thank you so so much! Hope you’re enjoying your FaceMaster 😍🫶🏻💕💕💕 sending hugs and love
I adore Jen! Thank you for giving her a safe space to tell her story!🤗💜🌈
I'm so happy that Jen Luv was mentioned for her honesty. She really is amazing.
Her highlighter never quit. So pretty! And those brushes look amazing.
Y'all, Gerard Cosmetics is amazing. The setting spray, the pink Slay the Bake, and the lippies - both the liquid and bullet - are awesome! And the Hair AF is saving my hair. Just wanted to leave a few recommendations. Great interview!
I watched during the live and commented a couple of times..but I just wanted to reiterate just how humble, gorgeous and amazing these ladies are (inside and out)...thank you ladies for sharing your story and Im so horrified and saddened that you even had/have to go through this...but Jen especially I strive to be your level of forgiving and loving and non petty...to have gone through all that and still be so forgiving and want nothing but the best...props to you! ❤ you have humbled me and I wish nothing but the best for you ladies...I cannot wait to support you both and continue to hopefully watch you grow and expand...much love from Canada 🇨🇦
You are so kind !! All we can do is forgive and move on
Thank you Jen & Gaby for speaking out about all of this. Unfortunately I have tried to give Jaclyn the benefit of the doubt for a long time BUT I am officially unfollowing her. I hope others will unfollow her as well. I am opening my own business and I cannot imagine going through even a little of what these women have gone through because of Jaclyn. The proof is here we all need to stop making excuses for her, there’s no more doubts.
The trademark situation is so messed up! What is even the point of the legal system in this case?? Just evil.
And thankyou Jen for your story! I'm definitely moving a cat carrier to the bedroom for my girls. That is one of my worst nightmares
Love love this episode! Learned so much, Thank you for shedding light on all the situations mentioned. I just purchased Gaby’s FaceMaster Brush. ❤
Thank you God Bless you and make every day of your life amazing 🙏🏻💕 big hug