Okay let me be clear, lol I don’t have the money you do for the upgrades. Dear lord this is the best looking EP9 I have ever seen. Now I am NOT concerned with conceal ability I rather a longer gun. I want to keep the existing buffer tube. I just want to add another Arm Brace Thant will give me some more space (length) . I do NOT care if it’s fixed. I need to add around 2-3” to the length to make the weapon more comfortable for me. I have long arms I guess. I have a ATI Bullpup and that gun is at 29” I think and that is short enough for me. Lol I can’t believe I am going to say this I will actually just buy a Hi Point Carbine for me and my boys to have fun with if I can’t get this gun longer
I can’t say for sure as I haven’t held the newest gen EP9, but seeing the pictures it doesn’t look so different that the comp shouldn’t work. As long as the barrel threads extend past the hand guard, it should work fine I would think
Do the velocity pcc triggers work in the ep9? I tried to install a PSA 3.5 AR match trigger... it fit but the hammer anti walk pin holes are off 1/32. The trigger face anti walk pin holes are flush. What are the known drop in triggers that work in the ep9 besides the velocity 3lb AR? Thank you sir.
Mine worked but could bump fire very easily so I ended up removing it. As for pins, the best option I found for the needed length were the Strike Industry anti walk pins. There just long enough to compensate for the extra width of the EP9 lower
@@comeoutandpla the hammer antiwalk pin (cmc) has enough length and the trigger antiwalk pin is a hair too long. I can bump that pin on my belt sander to take that tiny bit of length out. I used a pick on the end of the hammer pin (port side) and pulled the 1/32 while tapping it in the otherside. It's not a crazy amount of tension but I'm Not sure how i feel about running it like that. Edit: I have a cmc pcc 3.5 ar9 in now. Same 1/32 issue on Hammer pin (could be just my ep9 or cmc is making triggers for psa). I could polish the front of the drop in housing to fix it ...but A little 1/32 spring tension shouldn't hurt anything. It functions perfectly on snap caps. Ill report back when i get some range time in.
So I've been leaving messages on the ep aftermarket website ever since I found out about them asking them when it was going to be back instock and haven't gotten a response. So it's good to know that you mentioned that the are going back in production. I been wanting that 7.3 inch handguard for so long! I'm trying to run a XL linear compensator on mine and want a handguard to cover most of it but of course no one makes one! I eventually want to suppress it which this handguard would work best for my build. Nice EP9 by the way.
He hasn’t officially announced when orders are open but claims if you are in the email list, you will get a notification. I’d keep an eye on the Facebook group as well in case the email thing doesn’t work as some have reported
I have that same ambi bolt catch, I just installed it on mine and am hesitant to keep it on, unless yours has continued to work fine? How does it hold up now?
First, I want to thank you for your video and showing the Radian Talon Ambi Safety Selector. I ordered one for my EP9 and it fits and functions perfectly without any modifications. Now I am thinking about getting the Phase 5 extended bolt release v3. Can you tell me if the last round bolt hold open still worked after you installed it? I am looking at a couple of other models as well. Thank you for any information you can give. Debbie
It’s not difficult. Basically you have a screw in the QD cup in the rear and then there’s one under the part that is covering the upper receiver when it’s installed. Once you remove the upper, youll see it tucked up under there
From what I’ve seen the Gen 2 has the better rail and I believe a new grip. But I haven’t handled one yet. It’s still the same price which is good if they did upgrade parts of the gen 1 design
I got a KAK carbine buffer extended 8 oz, is there anything else I need to purchase to make this compatible? I’ve been trying to read comments and listen to the video I can’t get a good understanding.
I’ve always had an Expo Arms 8.1oz buffer with just a normal carbine spring. The biggest thing to remember is that you cannot use the OEM buffer tube with a standard buffer weight. It will damage their tube because there are bumpers they use in the factory configuration. Without the bumper, the bolt will basically beat the back of the tube and crack it. So if you do go with a regular AR buffer weight, use a milspec buffer tube. It will require the Farrowtech buffer tube adapter or something similar because Extar uses a proprietary system and only accepts their buffer tube
Hello, I have a couple of questions for you. I hope you don't mind. As for the Radian Talon Ambi safety lever, I am assuming it is the regular ar size and not the one for the s&w m&p 15-22? I just want to be sure before I go and buy one. Besides the grittiness, did it fit properly (correct size) without any modifications needed? And lastly, I plan on using my EP9 suppressed for home defense, using Federal 147 grain HST. After you changed the Buffer tube and brace, did your EP9 have any reliability issues? Did you shoot any 147 grain ammo through it? And have you shot it suppressed? Thank you very much for any information you can give me. Debbie
First for the safety…I used the standard version of the safety and it just took some breaking in but not a lot. Second, with the buffer I have set up I’ve only shot 150 syntech through it and it ran great. And the trigger I have allows for very rapid fire and to this point I haven’t experienced any malfunctions. As always, your mileage may vary….but I would assume 147 grain should be good to go. The only variable would be how your EP9 handles hollow points. I know mine has run a small number of HST’s well, but it hates the sig vcrowns. So as long as you’ve tested the federal for feeding, I think you’d be good to go running them suppressed assuming you have a similar buffer system as mine. Maybe even stock buffer as well, I just haven’t tested anything suppressed with extars spring and buffer weight
Thank you so much for your very quick and detailed response. I'm trying to read the reviews on that ambi safety to see if it is reversible. I shoot left-handed. I am right-handed but I am left eye dominant. So I shoot all long guns left-handed. I just got my EP9 about 3 or 4 days ago. Lol I have not had a chance to shoot it yet but I already had the can and the ammo. I just need to take it out to the range and see how reliable it is. I have the Gen 2 of course, and I don't really like the little blade brace that came with it. I want something that I can adjust and something that will have a QD mount on it. I'm just afraid that if I change it out it would change the felt recoil and reliability. Thank you again for your quick response. Debbie
The red dot is the bushnell rx100 I believe. It’s their $99 optic and it’s decent for the price. No frills like shake awake, but it holds zero. The flip up sights are Midwest industries or Troy barrel sights (I don’t recall) and they are the low profile HK style. The standard version of these sights for like AR’s are too tall in my opinion for this platform
Do you have the Strike Industries Oppressor, or the Strike Industries Oppressor Lite? I see on their website that there are two different ones. The Lite is supposed to work with 9mm and the normal version (not Lite) doesn't have any information about being compatible with 9mm. I also checked Primary Arms website though, and it says that the normal version (not lite) is compatible with the Mini King Comp, but no mention of the calibers it is compatible with. The only reason I don't simply just buy the Lite version is because it seems to be out of stock everywhere online.
I really like how you outfitted your gen 1 Extrar. It's outfitted better than the Gen 2 in my opinion. Thankfully many of these accessories can easily be prined.
The list is in the description. As for prices, most or at least half were parts already lying around so not all of it was bought specifically for the EP9. The SI comp and oppressor I got second hand for around $100 and the buffer tube adapter was around $65 I believe. Link was probably $20ish. Got the trigger(s) on a trade…makes it tough to put a price tag on the package but suffice it to say…probably too much
I’m going to hopefully get that soon. I have a shot of the oppressor blast pattern but rather than post just that clip, I’ll put it in the range footage
There are not. I don’t think you could even go with the law or silvan arms folding mechanism due to the geometry of the farrowtech adapter. Plus you be adapting an adapter and that rarely goes well. But due to the buffer system being what it is, folding would take some finagling
The ones I’ve seen break are when people swap to a milspec tube but keep the Extar buffer weight. Their buffer weight it covered in plastic and is meant to ‘bounce’ against the padding in their proprietary tube. In theory, you couldn’t break a milspec buffer weight in a milspec tube
How dare you! This is the finest $99 reflex sight Bushnell makes 😆. In its current configuration I don’t think a magnifier would do a great job as the dot is too low
@@rutrutbella600 it can definitely fit MBUS, they would just look a little tall due to the rail being a little more raised than a typical upper receiver
Sweet looking gun! Any issues with it so far and with any of the accessories? Like others, I've been eyeing on it just haven't click that place order button.....yet.
So far it’s run really well. I had an issue with the trigger as noted in the video where I used standard pins and had one walk out causing a pretty interesting ‘malfunction’. But anti walk pins solved that and I’ve put over 1K rounds since then with no issues. I recommend the Extar to anyone looking for a PCC. Even if you leave it stock, it’s a very good firearm and silly lightweight
I ordered that same hand guard from ep aftermarket website over a week ago but have not heard anything back from them since ordering. How long was it before they shipped yours out? They won't even respond to my emails.
It would take some work and modifications but it’s probably possible….but probably not worth the effort. You’d have to extend the buffer tube to attach a folding latch. Likely you’d use a FarrowTech adapter and need to shave down the folding side for it to lay flat. Overall, I wouldn’t recommend it, but fortune favors the brave
I switched the buffer to an expo arms 8oz buffer. I know I kept saying bolt for some reason, but i meant buffer. You cant keep the OEM buffer when you use a milspec tube because of the fact that the Extar buffer has a plastic shell on it and their tube had a pad or some type of cushion for it to bounce against. With the milspec tube, the plastic on their buffer will crack. There are a few examples in the FB EP9 group of people finding that out the hard way. I would recommend a PCC style buffer. I have heard people having success with as low as 6oz, but the OEM buffer is about 7.5 so I wanted to stay close to that number which is why I chose the 8oz one
@@comeoutandpla No problem and thanks for confirming. I love your video and mods and trying to reproduce. Is the flat wire for ar15 or 9mm specific? Do you have a mfg name, part no., or site you used? TIA.
I didn’t notice too much of a difference when switching over to the oppressor. The tone is a bit different but overall they are pretty close in performance
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That muzzle device and that tail hook excite me! Man!
I will say I like the oppressor a lot more than I expected. Works really well with the handguard
Always used iron sights now pushing 70 can't see but will put prizm on it
@@rutrutbella600 prisms are a game changer for our old eyes for sure. The Swampfox Raider has been really good so far for me
I just bought the Radian Talon Ambi safety selector. Thank you. 🙂
what is the extar group ?
There’s a group on Facebook that’s pretty active. There’s another on Reddit that is fairly tame, for Reddit standards 😂
@@comeoutandpla whats the facebook groups name? im having trouble finding it.
Okay let me be clear, lol I don’t have the money you do for the upgrades. Dear lord this is the best looking EP9 I have ever seen.
Now I am NOT concerned with conceal ability I rather a longer gun. I want to keep the existing buffer tube. I just want to add another Arm Brace Thant will give me some more space (length) . I do NOT care if it’s fixed. I need to add around 2-3” to the length to make the weapon more comfortable for me. I have long arms I guess.
I have a ATI Bullpup and that gun is at 29” I think and that is short enough for me.
Lol
I can’t believe I am going to say this I will actually just buy a Hi Point Carbine for me and my boys to have fun with if I can’t get this gun longer
For the money you can’t beat that Hi Point carbine. Especially in 10mm
Looks into the sob brace. They seem to have a little more length are are available via extar. I prefer them to the fin or sba brace.
Does that mini king comp fit in the stock Mlok hand guard?
I can’t say for sure as I haven’t held the newest gen EP9, but seeing the pictures it doesn’t look so different that the comp shouldn’t work. As long as the barrel threads extend past the hand guard, it should work fine I would think
Will that comp and oppressor combo fit with the stock gen 2 handguard? Or do you have to have the aftermarket handguard too?
It would for the original. It just wouldn’t re a recessed as mine
Dude that gun is badass but damn that’s a lot of extra money
It’s about 2.5 EP9’s worth 😂
Do the velocity pcc triggers work in the ep9? I tried to install a PSA 3.5 AR match trigger... it fit but the hammer anti walk pin holes are off 1/32. The trigger face anti walk pin holes are flush.
What are the known drop in triggers that work in the ep9 besides the velocity 3lb AR? Thank you sir.
Mine worked but could bump fire very easily so I ended up removing it. As for pins, the best option I found for the needed length were the Strike Industry anti walk pins. There just long enough to compensate for the extra width of the EP9 lower
@@comeoutandpla the hammer antiwalk pin (cmc) has enough length and the trigger antiwalk pin is a hair too long. I can bump that pin on my belt sander to take that tiny bit of length out. I used a pick on the end of the hammer pin (port side) and pulled the 1/32 while tapping it in the otherside. It's not a crazy amount of tension but I'm Not sure how i feel about running it like that.
Edit: I have a cmc pcc 3.5 ar9 in now. Same 1/32 issue on Hammer pin (could be just my ep9 or cmc is making triggers for psa). I could polish the front of the drop in housing to fix it ...but A little 1/32 spring tension shouldn't hurt anything. It functions perfectly on snap caps. Ill report back when i get some range time in.
So I've been leaving messages on the ep aftermarket website ever since I found out about them asking them when it was going to be back instock and haven't gotten a response. So it's good to know that you mentioned that the are going back in production. I been wanting that 7.3 inch handguard for so long! I'm trying to run a XL linear compensator on mine and want a handguard to cover most of it but of course no one makes one! I eventually want to suppress it which this handguard would work best for my build. Nice EP9 by the way.
He hasn’t officially announced when orders are open but claims if you are in the email list, you will get a notification. I’d keep an eye on the Facebook group as well in case the email thing doesn’t work as some have reported
@@comeoutandpla Cool! Thanks for the heads up I will definitely keep an eye out.
@@VEX_VICTORIOUS Website is down but he has some in stock. Should be available tonight or tomorrow.
He just released 100 of each handguard on Tues of this week... they sold out pretty fast but he said he's in the works to make a few more soon
@@Tattoofnjoe I saw that! I was a little too late on my pre-order but hopefully i can snag one on the next batch.
I have that same ambi bolt catch, I just installed it on mine and am hesitant to keep it on, unless yours has continued to work fine? How does it hold up now?
Mine has held up through at least a couple thousand rounds
First, I want to thank you for your video and showing the Radian Talon Ambi Safety Selector. I ordered one for my EP9 and it fits and functions perfectly without any modifications. Now I am thinking about getting the Phase 5 extended bolt release v3. Can you tell me if the last round bolt hold open still worked after you installed it? I am looking at a couple of other models as well. Thank you for any information you can give. Debbie
The phase 5 does allow the lrbho to function normally
@@comeoutandpla Thank you very much. 👍🙂
@@dbw843 no problem! And as I mentioned in the video, try to stick with the v2 or v3 levers as the clamp on or 2 piece levers won’t function at all.
How hard was it to change out the buffer tube? I want to change mine but I'm afraid to try and take it apart.
It’s not difficult. Basically you have a screw in the QD cup in the rear and then there’s one under the part that is covering the upper receiver when it’s installed. Once you remove the upper, youll see it tucked up under there
Reading you Loud and Clear, Subscribed.
Do people like the gen 1 or gen 2 ep9 better, and why? : O
From what I’ve seen the Gen 2 has the better rail and I believe a new grip. But I haven’t handled one yet. It’s still the same price which is good if they did upgrade parts of the gen 1 design
I got a KAK carbine buffer extended 8 oz, is there anything else I need to purchase to make this compatible? I’ve been trying to read comments and listen to the video I can’t get a good understanding.
I’ve always had an Expo Arms 8.1oz buffer with just a normal carbine spring. The biggest thing to remember is that you cannot use the OEM buffer tube with a standard buffer weight. It will damage their tube because there are bumpers they use in the factory configuration. Without the bumper, the bolt will basically beat the back of the tube and crack it.
So if you do go with a regular AR buffer weight, use a milspec buffer tube. It will require the Farrowtech buffer tube adapter or something similar because Extar uses a proprietary system and only accepts their buffer tube
Do I spy a Flare on that rig?!?!
Level of approval couldn't be any higher :)
It is indeed a flare. Got them on all the guns that they’ll fit on
Hello, I have a couple of questions for you. I hope you don't mind. As for the Radian Talon Ambi safety lever, I am assuming it is the regular ar size and not the one for the s&w m&p 15-22? I just want to be sure before I go and buy one. Besides the grittiness, did it fit properly (correct size) without any modifications needed? And lastly, I plan on using my EP9 suppressed for home defense, using Federal 147 grain HST. After you changed the Buffer tube and brace, did your EP9 have any reliability issues? Did you shoot any 147 grain ammo through it? And have you shot it suppressed? Thank you very much for any information you can give me. Debbie
First for the safety…I used the standard version of the safety and it just took some breaking in but not a lot.
Second, with the buffer I have set up I’ve only shot 150 syntech through it and it ran great. And the trigger I have allows for very rapid fire and to this point I haven’t experienced any malfunctions. As always, your mileage may vary….but I would assume 147 grain should be good to go. The only variable would be how your EP9 handles hollow points. I know mine has run a small number of HST’s well, but it hates the sig vcrowns. So as long as you’ve tested the federal for feeding, I think you’d be good to go running them suppressed assuming you have a similar buffer system as mine.
Maybe even stock buffer as well, I just haven’t tested anything suppressed with extars spring and buffer weight
Thank you so much for your very quick and detailed response. I'm trying to read the reviews on that ambi safety to see if it is reversible. I shoot left-handed. I am right-handed but I am left eye dominant. So I shoot all long guns left-handed. I just got my EP9 about 3 or 4 days ago. Lol I have not had a chance to shoot it yet but I already had the can and the ammo. I just need to take it out to the range and see how reliable it is. I have the Gen 2 of course, and I don't really like the little blade brace that came with it. I want something that I can adjust and something that will have a QD mount on it. I'm just afraid that if I change it out it would change the felt recoil and reliability. Thank you again for your quick response. Debbie
Cool vid . I just got the EP9. What iron sights and optic are those?
The red dot is the bushnell rx100 I believe. It’s their $99 optic and it’s decent for the price. No frills like shake awake, but it holds zero. The flip up sights are Midwest industries or Troy barrel sights (I don’t recall) and they are the low profile HK style. The standard version of these sights for like AR’s are too tall in my opinion for this platform
Oh, and welcome to the family!
The Oppressor?
Yup, it’s a compensator from strike industries
Do you have the Strike Industries Oppressor, or the Strike Industries Oppressor Lite? I see on their website that there are two different ones. The Lite is supposed to work with 9mm and the normal version (not Lite) doesn't have any information about being compatible with 9mm. I also checked Primary Arms website though, and it says that the normal version (not lite) is compatible with the Mini King Comp, but no mention of the calibers it is compatible with. The only reason I don't simply just buy the Lite version is because it seems to be out of stock everywhere online.
How'd you get the extar brace off? Air pump in brace hole?
I used an air compressor but I’ve heard people use shopvacs too (in reverse of course)
@@comeoutandpla thanks for the reply
I really like how you outfitted your gen 1 Extrar. It's outfitted better than the Gen 2 in my opinion. Thankfully many of these accessories can easily be prined.
Thank you
I haven’t looked into the gym to a whole lot but I did notice that they put a much better handguard on it
how about a shopping list of all the upgrades you've done? Also, what have your spent on the final lists of parts and pieces?
The list is in the description. As for prices, most or at least half were parts already lying around so not all of it was bought specifically for the EP9. The SI comp and oppressor I got second hand for around $100 and the buffer tube adapter was around $65 I believe. Link was probably $20ish. Got the trigger(s) on a trade…makes it tough to put a price tag on the package but suffice it to say…probably too much
Super nice! How about some shooting footage?
I’m going to hopefully get that soon. I have a shot of the oppressor blast pattern but rather than post just that clip, I’ll put it in the range footage
Any suggestions for any compatible folding stock?
You could try the law folder or sylvan arms but I’d have no idea if it’s compatible with the farrowtech adapter
Are there folding brace set ups for this gun?
There are not. I don’t think you could even go with the law or silvan arms folding mechanism due to the geometry of the farrowtech adapter. Plus you be adapting an adapter and that rarely goes well. But due to the buffer system being what it is, folding would take some finagling
@@comeoutandpla Thank you
Is this Garand Thumb presenting?? It’s gotta be him, it’s his voice and hand gestures
It’s him…minus the fan base and flannel wardrobe,
I've heard of buffer tubes breaking on these
The ones I’ve seen break are when people swap to a milspec tube but keep the Extar buffer weight. Their buffer weight it covered in plastic and is meant to ‘bounce’ against the padding in their proprietary tube. In theory, you couldn’t break a milspec buffer weight in a milspec tube
Did you purchase the Velocity stainless steel shim to go underneath the new trigger to protect the polymer lower?
I did not because it raised the trigger body too far. Sounds weird i know….but it couldn’t install with the plate
@@comeoutandpla thanks for the info.
Have you Used a magnifier, lets say 3x behind that Pinty red dot? if so does it distort the reticle or is it not really noticeable?
How dare you! This is the finest $99 reflex sight Bushnell makes 😆. In its current configuration I don’t think a magnifier would do a great job as the dot is too low
You said illegally and I think you meant to say inadvertently
I, and my dog, know what I said 😂
New subscriber can't fit Magpul mbus 3 on rail
@@rutrutbella600 it can definitely fit MBUS, they would just look a little tall due to the rail being a little more raised than a typical upper receiver
Can a light or laser be attached to the handguard? Love the build 🥶
If it’s mlok or get a pic rail from Magpul or the like that mounts to mlok
@@comeoutandpla thanks
Sweet looking gun! Any issues with it so far and with any of the accessories? Like others, I've been eyeing on it just haven't click that place order button.....yet.
So far it’s run really well. I had an issue with the trigger as noted in the video where I used standard pins and had one walk out causing a pretty interesting ‘malfunction’. But anti walk pins solved that and I’ve put over 1K rounds since then with no issues. I recommend the Extar to anyone looking for a PCC. Even if you leave it stock, it’s a very good firearm and silly lightweight
printed ar9 lower video when?
s00n
I have the FGC9 printed and just need to fit everything together
But I’m also wanting to do a traditional ar9 too
@@comeoutandpla dope
I ordered that same hand guard from ep aftermarket website over a week ago but have not heard anything back from them since ordering. How long was it before they shipped yours out? They won't even respond to my emails.
Mine took a little bit but that was when he first came out with them and production was slow. I’d reach out to them and maybe see if they are behind
Is it possible to put a folding brace on it??
It would take some work and modifications but it’s probably possible….but probably not worth the effort. You’d have to extend the buffer tube to attach a folding latch. Likely you’d use a FarrowTech adapter and need to shave down the folding side for it to lay flat. Overall, I wouldn’t recommend it, but fortune favors the brave
Can you put a link to these accessories, so I can research them?
Updated description with links
How about the buffer? Did you switch that out for a different one?
I switched the buffer to an expo arms 8oz buffer. I know I kept saying bolt for some reason, but i meant buffer. You cant keep the OEM buffer when you use a milspec tube because of the fact that the Extar buffer has a plastic shell on it and their tube had a pad or some type of cushion for it to bounce against. With the milspec tube, the plastic on their buffer will crack. There are a few examples in the FB EP9 group of people finding that out the hard way. I would recommend a PCC style buffer. I have heard people having success with as low as 6oz, but the OEM buffer is about 7.5 so I wanted to stay close to that number which is why I chose the 8oz one
Bro you shuda been on radio. U have the voice for it. Or do voice over work.
@@vilo3454 thanks 😂 I guess I have my speech & debate teacher to thank for that.
Not following you on the FarrowTech mod that worked for you.
8.1 oz expo arms buffer
Milspec carbine buffer tube
Standard flatwire buffer spring?
Correct. Sorry I got my wording a little scrambled there at the end
@@comeoutandpla No problem and thanks for confirming. I love your video and mods and trying to reproduce. Is the flat wire for ar15 or 9mm specific? Do you have a mfg name, part no., or site you used? TIA.
@@ercly9382 it’s a standard AR15 flat wire spring. I believe I got it from bexararms.net because they run promos on them from time to time
How does that comp compared to the kaw valley one?
I didn’t notice too much of a difference when switching over to the oppressor. The tone is a bit different but overall they are pretty close in performance