Just ordered mine tonight. I like to customize and mix things up to see what does and doesn't work. I have a feeling quite a few of your suggestions will come to play in my design. Props brother!
Think I'll probably leave the bolt alone, but I'll probably go to that flat buffer spring after changing out the tube, buffer, and brace. All the rest sounds very solid!
@@gregbeck906 I have the red as well. I’ve tried green optics and I just don’t think the extra money is worth it and I opinion. But I know some people that say they really help if you have any kind of stigmatism.
@@comeoutandpla No problem man. I've have my eye on one of these for quite a few years now. Just haven't "pulled the trigger" on it yet. Mostly because I want it to look more like an AR9. And I think you've done exactly that.
Honestly, it’s a really fun gun to shoot. Super lightweight, and the only issues I’ve ever had was using amend2 32 round mags. All in all well worth the $450
I’m not sure I would have changed much. Maybe tried a binary trigger…I don’t know if the LAW adapter was out when I got this but I’m going to add that on at some point
Hows that linear compensator working for ya? I just ordered the same 1for my ep9 but the 3 inch version. That looks like the 4.5 inch version. The shorter 1 was only available for 223 so im going to put it in the lathe and drill the center hole out so it wont baffle strike with 9mm
It worked pretty well. I have tried a few and they perform pretty much the same give or take. I did really like the Strike Industries Oppressor the most
@@comeoutandplaI finally got out yesterday and tried the new linear comp. Im not sure how much different it functions in comparison to this 1 since mine is just the 3 inch but wow did it it function amazingly! It sounded like half a silencer! Maybe because i only drilled the exit hole to 11 or 12mm. So it didn't leave much room for the gas to pass right through. Thanks for the video and I'm going to look up that safety and trigger now
Any of you guys who own one a lefty? Just wondering if blowback is an issue shooting from the left side. My son has a Keltec Sub 2000 in 9mm and the blowback is pretty heavy making it uncomfortable to shoot.
Blow back isn’t too bad on these but I’ve not tried it left handed. When I eventually have the time to take it back out, I’ll give it a try and report back
Im left eye dominant and I've had no probs with any blowback. Its been pleasant if anything. I only hate that its so easy to blow through a lot of ammo fast!
@@comeoutandpla Thanks bro. Particularly interested in the parts and process to change out the SB SOB brace (sucks) for something else (SBA3 or KAK blade maybe). You mentioned which buffer and weight you used. Did you change the buffer spring or still running stock spring? Looked at Farrow Tech website, seems it's now $85 for the brace adaptor AND a new buffer? (they also throw in a castle nut) Any idea if that buffer they are sending out will work? Since it's a polymer frame, did you go "a good hand tight" on the castle nut vs. the 40ft pounds recommended for an AR? Maybe some blue loctite to keep it from backing out? Guessing you got the buffer retainer from ZR Tech? Only one I've seen available, for $15 plus $7 to ship something that only weighs a couple of grams and only cost a couple of pennies to make. Gotta love that... Some intel from Extar on the buffer retainer - they told me they intentionally used the polymer retainer because of the polymer frame, which creates an alternate breaking point in case of any cycling failure. Meaning you'll break the retainer instead of the frame, saving the frame. Using the steel retainer makes the polymer frame the weaker part. They also noted that the only time there is any pressure on the retainer is when it is disassembled. When assembled, the bolt sits slightly inside the buffer tube, so there's no pressure on the retainer at all.
@@scottkain7474 I’d have to revisit how I installed the castle nut but I think the FarrowTech adapter is pretty stout...maybe not milspec torq stout, but I haven’t had any rotation problems. Basically I used just their adapter with a milspec tube, flat wire standard spring and an 8oz expo arms buffer. Also used the ZR retainer just because I was seeing a lot of breakages online so it was preventative
It’s such a fun gun to shoot. Stupid lightweight and has been very reliable for me and a lot of others. The only tricky part is availability. It used to sell out in hours after a release. Now, you’d have a couple days usually to snag one. Their email alerts are so-so for releases but if you’re on Facebook, find the Extar group and it gets announced there almost immediately
Just read on RUclips comment section right now where somewhere on another video says he Asked Extar about the plastic buffer retainer and they DO NOT RECOMMEND replacing with ZR steel one. Said that the plastic buffer retainer is Designed to be a failure point Which saves polymer frame from any damage if there’s a failure. Moving to steel makes frame new weak point. Curious to others thoughts on this?
Technically you’re attaching a milspec tube to the farrowtech adapter so that’s still a point of failure before you get to the frame. I know Extar is super against anything that modifies the design and I get why. But I also think they would benefit working with those modding the design and make it as safe as allowable 🤷♂️
Unless you are referring to just replacing the buffer and using their tube. In which case, I would agree with them entirely. I don’t see any point to replacing the buffer if you are using they OEM tube
@@comeoutandpla this is exactly what I read from another users comment just want to share insight with the community. “I asked Extar about the plastic buffer retainer they DO NOT RECOMMEND replacing with steel ZR. ( Rip off of over 20$ anyways for small steel part anyways ). Plastic buffer retainer is designed to be a failure point which saves your polymer frame from any damage if there is a failure. Moving to steel makes polymer frame new weak point. Only time plate is under pressure is when frame is disassembled. It is not under any pressure when assembled because bolt rides slightly inside the tube depressing buffer and spring slightly. Your preference? But Extar should send out new plastic buffer retainers upon request supposedly. “ Thanks for responding btw
None due to normal operation. I did run it without anti walk pins and the rear pin came out and I didn’t notice until I had a pretty serious (legal serious) malfunction. But with the proper pins, it’s been great
And to answer the type...it’s their standard (non steel) 3lbs trigger. I had the 4lbs trigger in for a while and did a trigger swap on a bunch of guns and the 3lbs landed in the EP9. To me, it’s not much of a noticeable difference for how I shoot to have it a pound lighter.
It’s pretty easy to see how it goes once you start. You’ll need to remove the buffer and the cover piece and I don’t recall if it’s all one part or separate. But by cover, I mean the part that looks like the farrow adapter. Then you slide the adapter on and it will be snug and then you can tension it down with the screw inside that adapter. Hope that sort of makes sense, but like I mentioned...it is pretty straight forward once you get started. Not a lot of parts to deal with. A big part is after it’s installed, make sure the bolt cycles manually without binding so you ensure the alignment is good
I finally have an Extar on the way and been trying to find a way to get one of those hand guards the last couple days, do you have a link for this? It’s a cool looking hand guard. Thanks 🙏
Check out the Facebook EP9 group. There’s a guy that made these but he hasn’t updated on a while if another run is being made. There are a couple other members that are developing some alternatives, so I’d join there and keep an eye out
@@Slaughterhouse_Floor is say for the money, it’s a hell of a deal. Probably one of my favorite guns I own. It’s super lightweight, very minimal felt recoil and it’s super reliable.
I can’t recall the brand specifically but it’s a coated flat wire standard weight spring. If I find the receipt, I can post a link. And the buffer is the 8oz Expo Arms buffer. I’ve heard other brands in that 7.75-8.25oz range would work as the stock buffer is 7.8oz. I’m sure recoil impulse could be tuned playing with springs and different buffers but honestly, I think it’s fine replacing the parts like for like with the Extar parts specs
Silent capture spring like the JP will not work due to how the buffer rides the fixed guide rod. If you pull the buffer back you’ll see the rod that a 5.56 type BCG cam clear due to the carrier being hollow. The EP9 bolt is solid so it would run into it while cycling
Now that's a Frankenstein build. Good to know that it worked out. That was the only thing that held me back on getting the Ex9 because of its limited aftermarket parts. I ended up getting the Fm9 for $200 more, but if these items becomes more available I'll definitely be getting the Ex9 with no thought. Cool build. 👍
The guy that made these seems to have gone silent but there are others on the Facebook group that are starting to design some. And there is a 3D printed one that gets pretty solid reviews. What would be helpful is if Extar would play nice and help develops this stuff but they are very stuck on their proprietary stance and no aftermarket compatibility that they admit to
I totally agree. This was more an exercise of how far I could customize it. At its base, it’s incredibly lightweight which is a huge plus. Had I bought the latest gen, I probably would have left at least the rail alone, but that original one just wasn’t great for my liking
No thanks? I own a CMMG Banshee. I know it cost a lot more. If I was going to buy a cheap 9mm AR platform pistol. I would go with a $640 Foxtrot Mike. At least you get all metal construction and just as good or better reliability. With all mil spec AR features. Not this $200 less plastic gun. That is limited on upgrades. No matter what you do you are stuck with a plastic picatinny rail and plastic frame. Foxtrot Mike all day and any day over this Mattel toy plastic gun
@@comeoutandpla Good luck on changing parts out on it. If Extar decides to change designs or goes out of business. It will be sorry about your damn luck. With the FM9 if they go out of business all aftermarket mil spec parts will work.
@@comeoutandpla Bummer you had to worry if they may do a flip flop on you and need to buy spare parts. With the FM9 buy them when ever you may need them if ever.
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Looking to pick one up and stoked to see our Flare hiding under the handguard! Always fun to see our products out in the wild. Great vid!
Nice job. 👍 The "already having many of these parts" disclaimer was really important. Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks. I should have put that up front so I’ll probably edit the description and just let it be known going in
Just ordered mine tonight.
I like to customize and mix things up to see what does and doesn't work. I have a feeling quite a few of your suggestions will come to play in my design. Props brother!
It’s a pretty versatile platform. Just be cautious about the bolt and spring if you decide to alter them
Think I'll probably leave the bolt alone, but I'll probably go to that flat buffer spring after changing out the tube, buffer, and brace.
All the rest sounds very solid!
Just curious, when you decided to change out the handguard, was that because you had the first gen guard?
Hey, I appreciate your in-depth breakdown!
Helped out a ton.
Thank you!
No problem. I’m going to make an updated version at some point with a few more add ons
@@comeoutandpla Awesome, I will keep an eye out!
Just ordered the Holosun Hs510c for mine. I think it will be a perfect match. 🤞 lol
@@gregbeck906 that’s what I currently have mounted and it’s fantastic
@@comeoutandplaoh really! What color illumination did you get? I got the red because that is all I know/have used.
@@gregbeck906 I have the red as well. I’ve tried green optics and I just don’t think the extra money is worth it and I opinion. But I know some people that say they really help if you have any kind of stigmatism.
This is the coolest ep9 I have seen. Nice job
Thank you very much. I really like how it all came together.
@@comeoutandpla No problem man. I've have my eye on one of these for quite a few years now. Just haven't "pulled the trigger" on it yet. Mostly because I want it to look more like an AR9. And I think you've done exactly that.
This is awesome! But why wouldn’t you turn the water off in the background?
He was taking a leak....
Thanks for the info. Nice setup! I have the same forend and an older type linear comp set to put on mine.
Thanks. I just wanted to do something different and per usual took it too far...but it’s by far my favorite range toy
Nicely done! I'm thinking of purchasing this firearm. Thank you, sir.👍
Honestly, it’s a really fun gun to shoot. Super lightweight, and the only issues I’ve ever had was using amend2 32 round mags. All in all well worth the $450
No this video is awesome ! I didn't know it was so compatible and had so many upgrades how cool thanks!
It was a good move by Extar to base a lot of their parts off the AR platform (even though they forbid modifying the EP9 😆)
Definitely some nice mods, 2yrs later what would you have done differently? Thanks ahead of time🤘🏿
I’m not sure I would have changed much. Maybe tried a binary trigger…I don’t know if the LAW adapter was out when I got this but I’m going to add that on at some point
@@comeoutandpla what's the law adapter?
Hows that linear compensator working for ya? I just ordered the same 1for my ep9 but the 3 inch version. That looks like the 4.5 inch version. The shorter 1 was only available for 223 so im going to put it in the lathe and drill the center hole out so it wont baffle strike with 9mm
It worked pretty well. I have tried a few and they perform pretty much the same give or take. I did really like the Strike Industries Oppressor the most
@@comeoutandplaI finally got out yesterday and tried the new linear comp. Im not sure how much different it functions in comparison to this 1 since mine is just the 3 inch but wow did it it function amazingly! It sounded like half a silencer! Maybe because i only drilled the exit hole to 11 or 12mm. So it didn't leave much room for the gas to pass right through. Thanks for the video and I'm going to look up that safety and trigger now
Any of you guys who own one a lefty? Just wondering if blowback is an issue shooting from the left side. My son has a Keltec Sub 2000 in 9mm and the blowback is pretty heavy making it uncomfortable to shoot.
Blow back isn’t too bad on these but I’ve not tried it left handed. When I eventually have the time to take it back out, I’ll give it a try and report back
Im left eye dominant and I've had no probs with any blowback. Its been pleasant if anything. I only hate that its so easy to blow through a lot of ammo fast!
Great vid - parts of it are hard to hear, though, a little garbled. Can you do a "changed parts" list in the description?
Thanks
I’m sure I can slap something together. I want to do an update as I tweaked a couple more things but I’m pretty sure I’m done modding it...pretty sure
@@comeoutandpla Thanks bro. Particularly interested in the parts and process to change out the SB SOB brace (sucks) for something else (SBA3 or KAK blade maybe). You mentioned which buffer and weight you used. Did you change the buffer spring or still running stock spring? Looked at Farrow Tech website, seems it's now $85 for the brace adaptor AND a new buffer? (they also throw in a castle nut) Any idea if that buffer they are sending out will work?
Since it's a polymer frame, did you go "a good hand tight" on the castle nut vs. the 40ft pounds recommended for an AR? Maybe some blue loctite to keep it from backing out?
Guessing you got the buffer retainer from ZR Tech? Only one I've seen available, for $15 plus $7 to ship something that only weighs a couple of grams and only cost a couple of pennies to make. Gotta love that... Some intel from Extar on the buffer retainer - they told me they intentionally used the polymer retainer because of the polymer frame, which creates an alternate breaking point in case of any cycling failure. Meaning you'll break the retainer instead of the frame, saving the frame. Using the steel retainer makes the polymer frame the weaker part. They also noted that the only time there is any pressure on the retainer is when it is disassembled. When assembled, the bolt sits slightly inside the buffer tube, so there's no pressure on the retainer at all.
@@scottkain7474 I’d have to revisit how I installed the castle nut but I think the FarrowTech adapter is pretty stout...maybe not milspec torq stout, but I haven’t had any rotation problems. Basically I used just their adapter with a milspec tube, flat wire standard spring and an 8oz expo arms buffer. Also used the ZR retainer just because I was seeing a lot of breakages online so it was preventative
After seeing this makes me want it more probably CHRISTMAS
It’s such a fun gun to shoot. Stupid lightweight and has been very reliable for me and a lot of others. The only tricky part is availability. It used to sell out in hours after a release. Now, you’d have a couple days usually to snag one. Their email alerts are so-so for releases but if you’re on Facebook, find the Extar group and it gets announced there almost immediately
Looks great 👍🏽
Thanks. It’s a really fun gun to shoot
Had to pee x1000 times before the video ended 😂
I do need to learn editing for sure….or summarizing
Just read on RUclips comment section right now where somewhere on another video says he Asked Extar about the plastic buffer retainer and they DO NOT RECOMMEND replacing with ZR steel one. Said that the plastic buffer retainer is Designed to be a failure point Which saves polymer frame from any damage if there’s a failure. Moving to steel makes frame new weak point. Curious to others thoughts on this?
Technically you’re attaching a milspec tube to the farrowtech adapter so that’s still a point of failure before you get to the frame. I know Extar is super against anything that modifies the design and I get why. But I also think they would benefit working with those modding the design and make it as safe as allowable 🤷♂️
Unless you are referring to just replacing the buffer and using their tube. In which case, I would agree with them entirely. I don’t see any point to replacing the buffer if you are using they OEM tube
@@comeoutandpla just talking only about zr tactical retainer plate. Even with proprietary buffer.
@@clinteastwood666 I got you. Then yes that advice from them would be valid in theory
@@comeoutandpla this is exactly what I read from another users comment just want to share insight with the community.
“I asked Extar about the plastic buffer retainer they DO NOT RECOMMEND replacing with steel ZR. ( Rip off of over 20$ anyways for small steel part anyways ). Plastic buffer retainer is designed to be a failure point which saves your polymer frame from any damage if there is a failure. Moving to steel makes polymer frame new weak point. Only time plate is under pressure is when frame is disassembled. It is not under any pressure when assembled because bolt rides slightly inside the tube depressing buffer and spring slightly. Your preference? But Extar should send out new plastic buffer retainers upon request supposedly. “
Thanks for responding btw
What kind of velocity trigger?
Any misfires velocity drop in trigger?
None due to normal operation. I did run it without anti walk pins and the rear pin came out and I didn’t notice until I had a pretty serious (legal serious) malfunction. But with the proper pins, it’s been great
And to answer the type...it’s their standard (non steel) 3lbs trigger. I had the 4lbs trigger in for a while and did a trigger swap on a bunch of guns and the 3lbs landed in the EP9. To me, it’s not much of a noticeable difference for how I shoot to have it a pound lighter.
Nice set-up. I couldn't find much on installing the farrowtech adapter. Direction on the removal process would be appreciated. Thanks!
It’s pretty easy to see how it goes once you start. You’ll need to remove the buffer and the cover piece and I don’t recall if it’s all one part or separate. But by cover, I mean the part that looks like the farrow adapter. Then you slide the adapter on and it will be snug and then you can tension it down with the screw inside that adapter. Hope that sort of makes sense, but like I mentioned...it is pretty straight forward once you get started. Not a lot of parts to deal with. A big part is after it’s installed, make sure the bolt cycles manually without binding so you ensure the alignment is good
Also, to remove the Extar rear, there is a screw where the qd mount would be...forgot about that part
@@comeoutandpla I see, thanks!!
Are you worried about having a metal trigger group with a polymer safety?
I updated the safety to a Radian Talon which has the metal cylinder piece. That is a good thing for people to consider however
Hi, great video! Did you use the 8oz "Extended" carbine buffer tube with the reddish end from Expo Arms?
I believe it’s the regular length buffer. It’s not like an A5 or something like that
With that 8oz buffer tube are you running the stock wire spring or the flat wire spring from expo arms as well??
I’m using a flat wire spring I got from bexar arms. I believe it’s coated as well
Where'd those stickers on the mag come from?
ruclips.net/user/CTRLPew ctrlpew.com
Are we able to get a link or name drop for hand guard. A bit new to this DONT know how to find guy.
www.epaftermarket.com/shop
I finally have an Extar on the way and been trying to find a way to get one of those hand guards the last couple days, do you have a link for this? It’s a cool looking hand guard. Thanks 🙏
Check out the Facebook EP9 group. There’s a guy that made these but he hasn’t updated on a while if another run is being made. There are a couple other members that are developing some alternatives, so I’d join there and keep an eye out
@@comeoutandpla you the shit! I appreciate the help sir
@@godspeedforevertv I just picked up the EXTAR EP9, I am looking for those hand grips as well, did you find them? Looked on Facebook but no luck.
@@r-shot8431 not sure if youre still looking but it looks like the guy that sells on epaftermarket may be spinning up production agaon
@@comeoutandpla Thank you!!
Nice work.
Thank you!
excellent video
Thank you!
Will a binary or echo trigger fit in the trigger space?
I don’t know about the Fostech but I’m almost certain the Franklin armory has worked. Check for videos tho or even the Facebook or Reddit groups
@@comeoutandpla Thanks I have been lookin at one of these for a few months now. Just haven't pulled the trigger yet?
@@Slaughterhouse_Floor is say for the money, it’s a hell of a deal. Probably one of my favorite guns I own. It’s super lightweight, very minimal felt recoil and it’s super reliable.
Thanks for the vid man. Would you mind giving a little more info on the buffer spring you're using? Brand, model, or link?
I can’t recall the brand specifically but it’s a coated flat wire standard weight spring. If I find the receipt, I can post a link. And the buffer is the 8oz Expo Arms buffer. I’ve heard other brands in that 7.75-8.25oz range would work as the stock buffer is 7.8oz. I’m sure recoil impulse could be tuned playing with springs and different buffers but honestly, I think it’s fine replacing the parts like for like with the Extar parts specs
Good review.
Thank you
Did you use the “extended carbine” buffer from expo arms? Also, do you think any silent capture springs would work in the extar?
Silent capture spring like the JP will not work due to how the buffer rides the fixed guide rod. If you pull the buffer back you’ll see the rod that a 5.56 type BCG cam clear due to the carrier being hollow. The EP9 bolt is solid so it would run into it while cycling
Great video! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Thank you!
Now that's a Frankenstein build. Good to know that it worked out. That was the only thing that held me back on getting the Ex9 because of its limited aftermarket parts. I ended up getting the Fm9 for $200 more, but if these items becomes more available I'll definitely be getting the Ex9 with no thought. Cool build. 👍
The guy that made these seems to have gone silent but there are others on the Facebook group that are starting to design some. And there is a 3D printed one that gets pretty solid reviews. What would be helpful is if Extar would play nice and help develops this stuff but they are very stuck on their proprietary stance and no aftermarket compatibility that they admit to
Will an AR Echo Trigger work in this PCC?
That I don’t know. I have heard some use the Franklin binary
Where's the Extar 9mm without buffer tube
does the frt seem to work?
I don’t have a FRT but from what I’ve been told, the 9mm bolt isn’t compatible
All that while takin 1 piss. Very nice.
tyty
@@comeoutandpla So does extar not sell to the big stores? I heard u can only get them from their website or second had from a big store?
@@n0xxm3rcyxx they sell through their site. Keeps costs down and able to maintain that $449 price tag.
@@comeoutandpla yeah, i had just ordered one. it will be here within 3 days. super pumped!
@@n0xxm3rcyxx it’s a great gun. Can’t beat it for the price alone
It was advertised at a shot show
I’ve heard rumors but I’ve also heard rumors of the 10mm Extar for a few years now
Someone was peeing the entire video. Insane
@@SofaKingTouge never even noticed that til right now 😂 Now I’m trying to remember what that even is
It looks a whole lot different .
I’ll admit I got a little excessive with this one
You just made a $450 gun into a $950 gun. Might as well just by the Stribog or Scorpion at that point.
@@Jammaster1972 where’s the fun in that???
WTF for... the EP 9 is a beauty in herself.... Keep her light and friendly... That is what she was designed for.... Just sayin...
I totally agree. This was more an exercise of how far I could customize it. At its base, it’s incredibly lightweight which is a huge plus. Had I bought the latest gen, I probably would have left at least the rail alone, but that original one just wasn’t great for my liking
lol😊
No thanks? I own a CMMG Banshee. I know it cost a lot more. If I was going to buy a cheap 9mm AR platform pistol. I would go with a $640 Foxtrot Mike. At least you get all metal construction and just as good or better reliability. With all mil spec AR features. Not this $200 less plastic gun. That is limited on upgrades. No matter what you do you are stuck with a plastic picatinny rail and plastic frame. Foxtrot Mike all day and any day over this Mattel toy plastic gun
To each there own. This is a super lightweight option for PCC’s and the community is creating the aftermarket a little at a time
@@comeoutandpla Good luck on changing parts out on it. If Extar decides to change designs or goes out of business. It will be sorry about your damn luck. With the FM9 if they go out of business all aftermarket mil spec parts will work.
@@johnwrenn766 that’s what 3D printers are for
Plus their spare parts are cheap enough that I stocked up on the wear and tear parts
@@comeoutandpla Bummer you had to worry if they may do a flip flop on you and need to buy spare parts. With the FM9 buy them when ever you may need them if ever.