Should you Replace Long Irons with Hybrids?
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- Опубликовано: 26 май 2020
- Discussing the benefits of replacing your long irons with hybrids for more height, spin and consistency!
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I have been playing golf for over 40 years and have learned so much about the numbers side of golf watching your channel the last few months.. The one thing you didn't touch on in this episode- versatility of the hybrid. It is so much easier to hit out of a bad lie. It can be used for a little bump and run to carry over a sprinkler head but roll out like a putt. It is a better option for a punch shot if you have a limited backswing because of a tree or bush because it gives you more ball speed with less effort. I really enjoy all of your innovative content. Keep up the excellent work!
I never get tired of watching Matt hit the ball... He just has such a pure swing.
Everything he hits makes me shake my head and say "God damn, he hits the ball straight." I don't think he could aim any better if he used a cannon.
Again confirming my theory that Matt is a robot.
It's stupid how short these videos always seem. Just amazing. I almost would rather watch them test equipment and talk about golf than play myself....almost
I so appreciate the information on this channel. Other channels seem to make the claim that if you are a better player, i.e. higher swing speed, then long irons are a better choice. I considered this simplistic view to be a disservice to many golfers. Nice work guys.
Matty picking up on some of Ian's speech patterns with that aye in there lol
Has been for a while. At least he's in the shop all day with Ian. I doesn't explain why I'm also doing it 1000 miles away....
Smashing is another one🤣
Dis naeb'dy know that Ian came fae a tenament, wi' middens in the back close? He used to find jobies there too, before being sent tae get the messages fae the shops. He'd have Lorne sausage in a couple o' "ootsiders" or a fish supper for his tea, washed doon wi' Irn Bru, followed by a pokey hat and a couple o' snowballs, while reading stories aboot Andy Capp and the Broons from an annual.
CUBuffs it’s the other way away around brother
Um Matt is Canadian and they are famous for aye.
Took out my 4 iron for a 23° hybrid. Don’t see myself looking back anytime soon. Awesome video that I’ve already experienced for myself!
Love hybrids, so versatile!! Great for chipping around the green too. Haven't had a 3/4 iron in my bag in years!
Thank you guys for this video, been struggling with my 5iron for the last 9 months, even as a good ball striker with a good swing speed the club was too damaging, just got fitted for a correctly weighted 4 & 5 hybrids and the consistency has returned and I can attack those 200 to 215 raised greens once more. Ended up with OT hybrid 100 shafts and they are spectacular, I just wish the main brands offered the heavier shafts as an option.
Guys, nice video. I really like how technical you guys are and you added the idea of a shorter shaft to the equation today. Interesting. I especially appreciated this video for its subject matter and that it was 11:34 long. I don't always watch your longer videos and this length really works and you covered the subject in enough detail. Keep it up.
A few years ago I went to a driver fitting and decided to give a hybrid a try for the heck of it. Bought both a driver and hybrid that day and am pretty sure the hybrid has made the bigger difference in my scoring. Ended up adding a 4h as well.
Great video gents. I can't remember the last time I carried a 3 & 4 iron. Hybrids when fitted well are amazing. And they're automatic for chipping around the green.
Fairly new to the channel, love the commentary and scientific approach to better decision making in club selections and recognizing why personalized fittings matter. Taking so much of this as I’m going through most/all of my clubs. I’ve already gone from mid 90s to low 80s over the last six months and hoping with more dialed in clubs I’ll be able to bring that down into the 70s/scratch golf
Only discovered the channel recently but it's consistently got the most information and practical advice on RUclips when it comes to golf. Grabbed myself some Kirkland Signatures when a few other bigger channels had put me off, absolute game changer. Cheers lads
Great content. I’ve count my hybrids to 5 iron length and loving them. I was using 2 and 4 iron. Now I use my 3 and 4 hybrid.
I’ve put a 2,3 & 4 hybrid in my bag. So consistent. Great information guys, please do shaft lengths ASAP.
when Matt hits hybrid longer than my driver :')
I feel you my man
Matt hits 7i longer than I hit driver...
You’re not alone...
Great video. I got g410 irons last year, but only down to 6 because I hit my old 5 iron so poorly. I made do with an old 4 hybrid for a while, but just got the g410 5 hybrid last week, and holy cow, what a great club. I'm one of those "170-190 yard" 16 hc golfers but am so confident with it and hitting greens on my course that usually elude me. It just makes the game more fun.
Great video. I’ve been struggling with my five and six irons however hit my old big Bertha 19deg and 21deg hybrids well. Considering going to a 28deg hybrid instead of my six iron. I basically use my five iron for shots under trees. Golf is a game of never ending change. Thanks
Easily the best video I have watched from you gents. Just the question I have been asking myself. Was looking to complete my MP20 HMB irons with a 3. Now I have to completely rethink that. Thank you Gents. Keep up the great content.
I've bit the bullet... 5 iron and then 22 degree hybrid.. game changer for my game.. great vid guys xx
Hey guys, great video. Thank you for validating my own decision to change out my long irons this year. I've replaced my 3 to 6 irons with 5 wood, 7 wood (love it), 5 and 6 hybrid . My 5 wood has as much carry as the 3 wood, but it doesn't roll as far, so I've got shot options there. I've found the hybrids are happier when you let them do the work vs trying to power through them. Also, I'm still able to hit draws and fades.
Because of back and knee injuries, these changes have really made the game more fun......and prettier 😊
Damn guys, you just increased the Ping hybrid sales by a couple of points 🤩 I got fitted and ordered both hybrids and the G410 spoon as well! 👌🏻 You guys are the best 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Another great vid. I switched out the 4 iron for a 4 hybrid this year since I don't play as often and never practice. It carries about 10 yards more than the 4 iron but it's so much easier to hit in all situations. Off the tee, it's no comparison as I can stretch it out another 30 yards if I really go after it.
I live in the mountains of eastern Az and the wind blows most all the time,so keeping the flight down is very important. So after Driver & 3 wood, i have gone with Ping G410 Crossover 2iron...Stirling SL irons 4-Pw...3 Ping wedges. Even at 64 years old i have no trouble with getting the crossover airborn off the deck or holding greens with low lofted irons,and they work well in the wind. I used to play fairway woods (3-5-7) & Ping G20 irons when i lived in the Phx area, but that didn't work for me at 6300 feet in the wind. Love the channel...been with you from the start and you are only getting Better! Keep up the Great work guys!!!
Love seeing the subscribers number rising every day! Keep up the good work guys!!
Perfect timing! Just about to pick up a pair of G25s... 4 iron is my falling off point.
Have always stuggled with occasional hooks out of nowhere from hybrids and did a lot of reading into the Callaway Apex hybrid and read it's for the better player with this problem so I can't wait to get my hands on it!!
The best questions Always and always answered in the best way
This is the reason I have a 4 and 5 hybrid. Originally had Cobra F6 but switched to Titleist 818 H1s because the shafts play shorter in the Titleist than other manufacturers and are are so much easier to hit. Also super adjustable! Now I feel I have a little longer gap between the 5 hybrid and my Mizuno JPX 900 Hot Metal 6 iron.
I just bagged a Ping G410 2 hybrid with a Hard Stepped steel stiff shaft to replace my 3 iron for a better gap between my 3 wood and 4 iron because I was basically hitting my 3 iron the same distance at my 4 iron on GCQuad.
Thank you for this video! This answered a lot of questions I’ve had about what and how I should be playing.
I play a 3,4 and 5 hybrid and love them. I even bump and run on occasion with a hybrid.
I use 3 hybrids in my bag at current (19* 22* and 25*) with a 28* 6 iron. I love my hybrids
I game a G410 4-Hybrid. It’s been a real game changer. I especially love the adjustable hosel (flat lie setting)
I got fit into this ping hybrid. Best club i’ve ever hit its amazing!! (4 hybrid) Hard to miss and has a flat setting since I struggle with over-draw
What degree is yours? And what is the flat setting? Changing lie? I'm after a hybrid myself as i can't hit a driver. These videos and people's reviews make the ping hybrids seem very appealing!
Mine is a 22degree (4 hybrid). It can be set to +/- 1 degree on either flat or standard. It doesn’t say how flat it makes it but my guess is about 2-3 degrees since my irons are 1 degree flat and the hybrid is a touch flatter. Still love it :)
stulovespie flat feels like about 2-3 degrees flat lie angle. 22 degree
@Craig So the 4 hybrid i have in the ping looks like it sits very square to the eye and there isn’t a lot of face roll so it doesn’t look open or close. everyone’s eye is different but when I look at taylor made drivers for example they look very open to my eye. My ping hybrid looks a lot more square than my taylor made clubs (when set on the flat setting for ping) hope that helps.
Yup. Need a new 5 hybrid. Thanks for the awesome work guys :)
Damn you guys, you cost me $ every time I watch! Mikey just built my T100S’ yesterday and now I need to book an appointment with John to check out a 4 hybrid.
Great info as always! You guys have the inside the ropes info and are not afraid to tell us your trade secrets!!!!
Guys, you’re videos are getting better day by day.........congtrats 😃😃😃
As I approach 50yrs old and swing speed has dropped a bit, I’ve had to ditch the 3i (couple years ago) and now seeing the 4i is due soon... maybe just jump it and go 3,4,5 in hybrid and enjoy the long game again. LOVE the idea of keeping shaft length the same as the iron in the hybrid too! Well done Gents!
Excellent video again gents. I have removed my 4 and 5 irons from my set. I've replaced them with a 7 wood. Got my gapping pretty bang on for me. 6 iron is 26° may is wood is sitting at 22°. Driver 10.5, 3 wood 15, 5 wood 18.5 and then my 22°. Can't get on with hybrids at all but play my woods very well. I really think it's a case of ditching the ego and playing what is right for our individual games. Whatever makes our scores lower
Love ❤️ this I was thinking about dropping my 4i for the 4hyb
Great explanation and demonstration of how Hybritos can benefit anyone, but specifically those who struggle to launch long irons. Also that GHOST shaft make some mean combinations in hybritos!
I am with Brian on Matt's swing. I would love to have half that capacity. Another great bit of information. Thanks fellas.
Just got my custom set of Apex irons today that stop at 5 iron, currently have a used big bertha 4 hybrid in my bag. Definitely hoping to get fit for a 4 & maybe 3 hybrid fir my bag, they're just so easy to hit and I love the sound of them
Great video lads. I’m a 27 handicapper and struggle with my 5 iron and never thought of changing that iron for a hybrid. Will defo think about it and look into a gapping and fitting. See what happens. Cheers lads. Andy 🇬🇧
It's funny, I just picked up 5 and 4 Apex hybrids and I'm loving them. Great video!
I play 2 5 irons. My 5 iron in my wilson v6 forged at 25.5 degrees in my ctaper130x, a sim max 5 iron 21 degree in my iron shaft, been a beautiful setup
Wonderful graph at 8.28. Great video.
My 6-iron is lofted 28 or 29 degrees. My 5-iron is 24 degrees. And, it is here that I will struggle and it is here I am in some club/clubs decision making process. I can hit my 24 degrees club but it is very inconsistent. Great and long shots ducking the wind or … it flies 3 yards above the ground and rolls for 70 yards.
With my hybrid I get a much more comfortable hit … but it may be too high if it is too windy. But, it is an old rescue - when it was named rescue before called hybrid. And, it is an old rescue. It gets the job done. Love it.
but - I am off distances at the moment.
Swallowed my pride and have added some hybrids to my bag and I am playing better than I have in a very long time. Love my hybrids!!
Well done Matt. Great information!👍🏌️♂️
Awesome video as always, thanks gents!
Do you find that some people just have trouble hitting hybrids generally? It seems I’m fighting constant toe hooks with it and don’t have that issue as often with a 4-iron... it seems obvious I’d benefit from using a hybrid or two (I carry a 4-iron about 205) but I have such a hard time middling them 😞
Quality information gents thank you.
Been a big believer of that for a few years now. G Mac went to 5 hybrid a while back and I followed. My scoring on par 3s and long Par 4s where the biggest difference. Hold more greens coming in higher
I'm a 5 handicap and have been playing 3, 4, 5 hybrids for the last 10 years. Wasn't consistent with 5 iron and didn't have the desired carry distance. One of the best moves for my overall game that I've made.
Replaced my 3 and 4 iron ten years ago with 3h and 5h. A slightly bigger gap between them than I’d like but they make longer par 3s and 4s a lot easier, especially if I miss fairways. Also great for 2nd shot when playing par 5s in regulation instead of trying to hit the 1 in 10 shot with 3 wood. Due for a complete bag overhaul this year and expect to be carrying a 16-18* fairway and 2 hybrids around 21 and 25.
Subscribed today! thanks for all the info!!!!
Getting my old TM Rescue 22 into a shorter TT Grafalloy Pro Custom has been an incredible change. Can't think about using my 4i unless it's blowing a gale now
I replaced my 3 iron with a 3 hybrid I have only used it on the range!!n And today I was really satisfied with it much better than the 3 iron!! Can't wait to use it off the tee on a short par 4 or maybe a longer par 3!!
Been playing Apex 4h and 5h for 3years now, love them.
Playing a hybrid in place of a 5i felt like copping out too soon in the bag, but now I’m convinced.
I have the G410 5 and 4 hybrid then 5 and 3 wood. Love them. Irons are cobra forged tour just love my bag setup
Swing looking on point, Matt.
Great video! I am also wondering about the need to add weight on the hybrid head if you shorten the shaft length (to keep swing weight up)? I already fight the big hybrid draws even with a Taylor Made M3 with adjustable weight out at the toe. Love the hybrid playability but despise the dreaded big hook they bring into play.
Would love to see a utility iron thrown in the mix. More specifically in the 4 iron
Great video again. I don't post many reactions because most off the time somebody else says the same as I would have. But this time I would encourage everbody to try more hybrids. I use Mizuno CLK (2018 model) 2H (set at 14 degree) en 4H (set at 22 degree). Before I had the Mizuno MP18 Fli hi 2 and 3 iron, great off the tee but more difficult from the fairway. The hybrids are also more versatile, and if I want more out of the hybrid its easier to control. I definitly go try shorter shaft in my hybrids. Think to put the 4H shaft in de 2H and look for a 5H shaft with the same profile. By the way the new CLK 2020 is even better and easier to hit (I tried them with Trackman), but my wallet is the problem
Dang it, now I want to get more hybrids! Maybe do a test of a mid/high handicapper and the Cleveland hybrid set of irons/hybrids. Ego is a terrible thing when confronted with facts!
Thanks as always guys!!
I’ve replaced my 5 & 4 irons with a 21 & 19 degree hybrid. Better distance, accuracy, higher ball flight and improved consistency. Seeing these results, I replaced my 5 wood with a 17 degree hybrid with similar results. Love hybrids!!
Great video guys, ive been looking to get a 4 and possible a 5 hybrid in the bag
I Love my Hybrids,
but If I put any more of them in my bag I will have hybrid Pitching Wedges 😜🤣
I think TM already makes one of those Bandit. It's a version of the Hi Toe and they call it Big Foot. The sole on it looks for all the world like a hybrid ;-)
We have a guy playing off +2 who uses hybrids to a 9 iron, his whole set minus the wedges!
I got a Taylormade GAPR HI 4 a little while ago and its probably my favourite club in the bag. Adjustable, removable shaft and easier to hit than a 6i. Even the bad shots are better than my long irons
New set will be 6-lw 3,4,5 gaprs
Great video. Think about how many strokes a higher handicapper would save over the course of a season if they switched out their long irons for hybrids.
Ian. I use Ping g410 19 and 22 love them
Wow how are you not on tour with a swing like that. Great video yet again guys
I'm going to be getting fitted some new irons when the pro shops open I england on the 15th so will be looking at the value of my 4 iron and 3 iron for sure
Have been using 909h 21 and 24 degrees voodoo stiff for many years. Then progress into 710 ap2 5 iron thru to pitching wedge recently reshafted with kbs c taper s flex. Great makeup with hybrids flying long and high.
This video came out just after my purchase to replace my 5i with Mizuno Fli Hi 5 hybrid. It was an ego struggle at first, because I'm in late 30s only....but man these hybrids are so easy to hit as a weekend golfer.
Great video and commentary!
Matt running to the course with the demo in hand 😂
You guys are kind readers 😅
Been thinking of upgrading my long lyrics above 6i, and have a 3h I love. Struggle to find the right yardage between these two (about 40 yd difference depending on the lie)
Also did you have to add head weight for those shorter iron shafts and if so how much? May have to test out a 5 hybrid with an iron shaft now. Keep up the amazing work guys!
Swapped my 5i for 5hy earlier this year never looked back i flush it Every time I hit it. 👊👍🏴
Very solid video. Curious how the hollow bodied irons would fair in this comparison...ie mizuno hmb, ping crossovers, etc
The 4 hybrid is a no brainer for Matt. Great video Gents.
so valuable, a great "go to" video !!
Another amazing video. The next question - where should average golfers switch from hybrids to irons?
I pulled my Titleist AP1 3I and replaced it with a Cobra 3H. I can still get it done with the 3I however I can tell that the time has come.
I am going for a hybrid instead of a driving iron. I am also going to get a 4 hybrid as well. Go video boys!
Awesome video, gentlemen
I’d love to see y’all demo the Mizuno JPX Fli Hi Hybrids. They come at iron length.
finally subscribed , thanks for the education on so many things.
not sure if the feeling from puring a hybrid would give me the same pleasure of doing that to an iron, even if its a rare occasion. :D
Would love to hit that G(h)OST Shaft sometime soon though.
This is great!! I was just talking to Ian about this... answers my question I guess. lol
Good video. Only dislike on hybrids is the low punch shot out of trees and fairway finders off the tee. I think a day may come where a 21 degree hybrid may be paired with a 21 degree driving iron. Use the iron for safety off the tee and low shots and hybrid into green. That 220ish yard shot is so important to scoring it may be more important to carry 2 clubs for it and remove a wedge. The shorter shaft may fix the punch shot issues however
I play 3 and 4 hybrid. Might swap out the 3h on windy links and sub in the Deuce HMB but exception rather than the rule. Would always keep the 4H in the bag as I use it around the greens quite often for chip and run shots from the fringe.
Great work guys! Im wondering how the ping g410 17 deg hybrid compares to the 17 deg fairway... and who would benefit from each. Thanks!!
I actually just took out my hybrid and put in an MMC fli hi 4 iron it’s way more consistent in direction,don’t know what it is but I don’t seem to be able to aim a hybrid but I love my st 180 3 and 5 woods.
I recently swapped my 3i (mp5) for the CLK 19deg, took a few rounds to figure it out I was sweeping in like a fwy wood but once I got a better angle on it I'm 100% sold. My very best strike with 3i off a perfect lie is maybe as good as average from the CLK, forget it from the thick stuff. Having 220 in the bag CONFIDENTLY is a game changer. 4i better watch his back and may be relegated to windy days.
Have you thought about reviewing the Tour Edge EXS Pro Forged and EXS Blade irons and EXS Blade wedges?
Awesome video! This is the part of my bag I am really struggling with. I have kept my 3 iron in play because I can flight it down better we play in a lot of wind here where I live. I feel my hybrid is too long and I hit big draws and hooks with it. I have a titleist 915 HD 20.5. Could I theoretically just order a shaft for a 4 hybrid and use that instead of their stock 3 hybrid one? Would that be a problem with keeping swing weight around D3 without needing to add weight to the head?
Funny timing!
My new 4 & 5 hybrid should be in any day now....