What a great analysis on Arnold’s character.. or much rather, his actual personality in and out of Pumping Iron! Arnold seems to be more motivated intrinsically than the others, and it shows in his aura and the way he carries himself - brilliant video compilation, love the outtakes!
Could agree more. Sad thing is we're not getting any more of these memories. It's history and it's done. Maybe that's what makes it special. Thanks for commenting Tyler
The great Historian Niall Fergusson said the closest thing to a time machine is reading history. Watching these videos takes us back to a better age in some respects.
Once again, a very insightful and intriguing look at Masculinity via Arnold in the iconic “Pumping Iron”! I would agree that Arnold has carried this Alpha persona with him for many years since gracing the bodybuilding stage. His alluring, charismatic and machismo personality in some ways were rivalled by the late Rich Piana, in a very exaggerated manner. Unfortunately, for me, the Terminator’s 180 degree shift to left-wing WOKE-ism , ‘screw your freedoms’, vegan, anti-meat, blah blah blah has put some noses out of joint…including yours truly! 😬 Now looking forward to Part 3 of this series. Well done so far!!!👏👏 👍👌💪👊🤩
I agree with your comment in more ways than one. Piana was indeed an iconic character that for a while there, was larger than the sport itself proving you didn't need to be a successful competitor to be a "star" in the new social media driven landscape. He embodied many of the same qualities as Arnold did with his charisma and masculine energy. And yes, Arnold has taken a weird turn for the worse over the last decade. He's so desperate to stay relevant that he attaches himself to any trending issue in a way that's totally at odds with the much more raw and authentic persona he used to project from the 70-s to early 90s. Rejecting his "bodybuilding base" during the time he was governor ( removing his pics from Gold's etc) marked the start of his decline. Now he's just completely tone-deaf on most issues - a shell of his former self.
Honestly, I think his body looks better with less muscles (like in the Predator movie) instead of the mountain of muscles from his bodybuilding days. But then again I have always thought that the smaller body was more pragmatic and the bulkier body was more peacocking.
He looked sensational in Predator! I think Arnie got more handsome facially as he aged also. By the time he was in his 40s on Predator, his face had that chiselled look and his body was less extreme but balanced between big and functional. Thanks for your comment egyptwns
Hey David, cheers that's good to hear. I hope to build things as time goes by. Our fitness and bodybuilding niche can be a jaded and fickle bunch, so hopefully what I'm trying to do - which is take topics and come at them from a different angle - resonates with people also. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
If you watch the update documentary to pumping iron you'll see Arnold's cold mechanical character was exaggerated purposefully as other elements were manipulated to create atmosphere and tension.
Ummm no. He was running for governor at coincidentally the exact same time that Raw Iron documentary was "contrived", and needed a reason to explain away the "non-politically-correct" behaviors of his bodybuilding days. Arnold is first and foremost all about Arnold, and as great as he is, he's a total pathological liar.
Me too! This documentary is what got me addicted to bodybuilding 35 years ago! It's great that I can share my love of the film with people all around the world now with similar experiences. Thanks for commenting 🙂
The BB today do not compare to those in the golden era like arnold, franco, zane, and corney etc. These prementioned BB and others from the golden era looked way better than any of todays current pros. There was one exception in my opinion, and that is Jay Cutler, who as well as being huge, actually looked good, with aesthetics for such a big guy, the other big guys of today🤔 ....do not look as good in my opinion. Zane, even being smaller than todays competitor's: had that look, that no one today has managed to emulate.....and that's what this sport is about: how you look. And to be honest the ones today do not look as good, irrespective of how big they are......but that's just an old mans opinion. I remember seeing photo shoots of Zane in MUSCLE BUILDER AND POWER in the 70s, and was awe struck by his physique......l have flicked through magazines in shops today, and the photos do not leave me awe struck whatsoever. And very sadly: the young and guilable are virtually killing themselves, trying to emulate todays pros in size, and in the process storing up serious future health problems.......and here l was, thinking that physical culture, was all about health and fitness, what the hell went wrong ?????
I 100 per cent agree poshgentleman - I collect the old magazines still and the photos still blow me away. The new breed - their physiques, their attitudes, their personalities and work ethic....they just don't inspire me. Show me an old pic of Arnold or Zane I've never seen before and I'm transported back 35 years ago as a starstruck teenager falling in love with the sport. Thanks for watching and commenting.
lol, I guess so. Arnold's comments regarding homosexuals and women in the book Pumping Iron are....interesting? Thanks for watching and commenting whiteman
@@carvedouttastone In !!ALOT!! of other tv/movies.I think my comment is pretty much on.I don't care if people are gay or not.I just don't want to be told subconsciously.What to do and think.Through the media.
And while plenty of Arnold's peers had physiques that were on par, and maybe even a touch better than his, such as Frank Zane, Franco Colombu, Robbie Robinson, Serge Nubret and others, it was his personality that was the difference maker.
The Nazis hijacked Nietzschean philosophy, not the other way around. While Nietzsche's philosophy is broad and covers a range of topics, it's not directly related to bodybuilding or strength training. However, his ideas about the importance of self-overcoming, self-creation, and the will to power is intertwined and relevant to the pursuit of physical strength and fitness. Nietzsche believed that individuals should strive to overcome their limitations and become the best version of themselves. Sounds pretty relevant to me - and had absolutely nothing to do with Nazi 💩 as you put it. Thanks for commenting 😊
@@carvedouttastone Nietzsche is most misunderstood to this very day, when comedic shows make wannabe smart insertions of his quotes in diametric opposition to what he actually meant. To work out everyday with actual no particular goal is what Nietzsche's ubermensch would do, isolate in his cave, seeing the sun reflect his own image; isolated and motivated. Many scholars agree that it's an unachievable goal and the super-driven man is yet to be born.
Why did we gloss over the fact that Arnold did engage in certain homosexual activities early on in his career as a means of making money??? This is not some obscure secret but a rather well known fact to most Arnold “historians”.
I couldn't find anything solid confirming this whereas at least the Nazi stuff, was detailed across many people, many sources and many separate accounts. If you've got anything solid (besides Rich Lacy's internet posts) then I'd be happy to check it out
Look at the owner of Gold's during the Pumping Iron era. He was a gay hustler, gay porn star and gay porn film maker. Many bodybuilders from Gold's were in his movies. Ric Drasin was one of them.
as a bodybuilder myself and really following the knowledge mike Mentzer left behind I have to fundamentally disagree with most of this analysis. This is extremely one sided and biased as if a feminist wrote this sucking on the teet of of a vegan praying they will be blessed with Soy. I'm glad this channel isn't taking off, I can really see why. these breakdowns aren't based in fact or reality more from an emotional state of being just like thru the lens of a woman. Cheers.
What a great analysis on Arnold’s character.. or much rather, his actual personality in and out of Pumping Iron!
Arnold seems to be more motivated intrinsically than the others, and it shows in his aura and the way he carries himself - brilliant video compilation, love the outtakes!
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Bring back these days
Could agree more. Sad thing is we're not getting any more of these memories. It's history and it's done. Maybe that's what makes it special. Thanks for commenting Tyler
The great Historian Niall Fergusson said the closest thing to a time machine is reading history. Watching these videos takes us back to a better age in some respects.
Once again, a very insightful and intriguing look at Masculinity via Arnold in the iconic “Pumping Iron”!
I would agree that Arnold has carried this Alpha persona with him for many years since gracing the bodybuilding stage.
His alluring, charismatic and machismo personality in some ways were rivalled by the late Rich Piana, in a very exaggerated manner.
Unfortunately, for me, the Terminator’s 180 degree shift to left-wing WOKE-ism , ‘screw your freedoms’, vegan, anti-meat, blah blah blah has put some noses out of joint…including yours truly! 😬
Now looking forward to Part 3 of this series. Well done so far!!!👏👏
👍👌💪👊🤩
I agree with your comment in more ways than one.
Piana was indeed an iconic character that for a while there, was larger than the sport itself proving you didn't need to be a successful competitor to be a "star" in the new social media driven landscape.
He embodied many of the same qualities as Arnold did with his charisma and masculine energy.
And yes, Arnold has taken a weird turn for the worse over the last decade. He's so desperate to stay relevant that he attaches himself to any trending issue in a way that's totally at odds with the much more raw and authentic persona he used to project from the 70-s to early 90s.
Rejecting his "bodybuilding base" during the time he was governor ( removing his pics from Gold's etc) marked the start of his decline. Now he's just completely tone-deaf on most issues - a shell of his former self.
Well put, @@carvedouttastone
A shell of his former self physically, mentally and spiritually!
Ken Sprague was the owner of Gold's during the Pumping Iron era. He was a gay porn actor and director.
Honestly, I think his body looks better with less muscles (like in the Predator movie) instead of the mountain of muscles from his bodybuilding days. But then again I have always thought that the smaller body was more pragmatic and the bulkier body was more peacocking.
He looked sensational in Predator! I think Arnie got more handsome facially as he aged also. By the time he was in his 40s on Predator, his face had that chiselled look and his body was less extreme but balanced between big and functional. Thanks for your comment egyptwns
What you call a "mountain of muscle" is nothing campared to what bodybuilders have today.
I prefer Arnold's 1975 body over any bodybuilder today.
@@mrmaxaxl I agree.
Your channel is very underrated
Hey David, cheers that's good to hear. I hope to build things as time goes by. Our fitness and bodybuilding niche can be a jaded and fickle bunch, so hopefully what I'm trying to do - which is take topics and come at them from a different angle - resonates with people also. Thanks again for watching and commenting.
13:56 Is this from that Streets of San Francisco episode? Lots of big names from the '70s running by right here.
It was from the movie Stay Hungry - can even see Mike Mentzer in the crowd
If you watch the update documentary to pumping iron you'll see Arnold's cold mechanical character was exaggerated purposefully as other elements were manipulated to create atmosphere and tension.
Ummm no. He was running for governor at coincidentally the exact same time that Raw Iron documentary was "contrived", and needed a reason to explain away the "non-politically-correct" behaviors of his bodybuilding days.
Arnold is first and foremost all about Arnold, and as great as he is, he's a total pathological liar.
Thsnk you Arnold //i m start because i look.this documanter
Me too! This documentary is what got me addicted to bodybuilding 35 years ago! It's great that I can share my love of the film with people all around the world now with similar experiences. Thanks for commenting 🙂
Before 30 years
I'm coming everywhere 😁
"day and night, it's terrific, right?"
Thanks for watching Paul. Please "cum" again when I post another video this Sunday.
Fentastik 👌
Thanks very much Navas
The BB today do not compare to those in the golden era like arnold, franco, zane, and corney etc. These prementioned BB and others from the golden era looked way better than any of todays current pros. There was one exception in my opinion, and that is Jay Cutler, who as well as being huge, actually looked good, with aesthetics for such a big guy, the other big guys of today🤔 ....do not look as good in my opinion. Zane, even being smaller than todays competitor's: had that look, that no one today has managed to emulate.....and that's what this sport is about: how you look. And to be honest the ones today do not look as good, irrespective of how big they are......but that's just an old mans opinion. I remember seeing photo shoots of Zane in MUSCLE BUILDER AND POWER in the 70s, and was awe struck by his physique......l have flicked through magazines in shops today, and the photos do not leave me awe struck whatsoever. And very sadly: the young and guilable are virtually killing themselves, trying to emulate todays pros in size, and in the process storing up serious future health problems.......and here l was, thinking that physical culture, was all about health and fitness, what the hell went wrong ?????
I 100 per cent agree poshgentleman - I collect the old magazines still and the photos still blow me away. The new breed - their physiques, their attitudes, their personalities and work ethic....they just don't inspire me. Show me an old pic of Arnold or Zane I've never seen before and I'm transported back 35 years ago as a starstruck teenager falling in love with the sport. Thanks for watching and commenting.
An act asociated with woman/homosexuals,"to set up cognitive-dissonance".I think you just explained your own answer.
lol, I guess so. Arnold's comments regarding homosexuals and women in the book Pumping Iron are....interesting? Thanks for watching and commenting whiteman
@@carvedouttastone
In !!ALOT!! of other tv/movies.I think my comment is pretty much on.I don't care if people are gay or not.I just don't want to be told subconsciously.What to do and think.Through the media.
Reg park should have been as well known as Arnold. He was the last great natural before the age of steroids
Reg was indeed superb. Have you seen that documentary on his life? I was going to buy it but haven't gotten around to it. Thanks for commenting
@@carvedouttastone I have not! What’s it called?
Is this golden era bookworm ?
no, but similar Aussie accents perhaps.
@@carvedouttastone I thought Carlos ( Golden Era Bookworm) is British
Sounds Aussie to me. Not sure, I don't really follow him
@@carvedouttastone I don't know either. You may be right
The depth and artistry of this content blows GEBW's stuff out of the water imo.
And while plenty of Arnold's peers had physiques that were on par, and maybe even a touch better than his, such as Frank Zane, Franco Colombu, Robbie Robinson, Serge Nubret and others, it was his personality that was the difference maker.
Agreed. Personality sells and charisma trumps talent. He had both, but his brain and undeniable magnetism was inarguable
Yes...being phony...
Arnold at his best was pretty massive and complete as 70s bbs go. Franco was his only real competition imo
Franco turns in his Graf, lying Arnold with fascisme jabs …
Is Arnold afraid of death ? 🤔☠
He's more afraid of irrelevance
@@carvedouttastone >> Your right 😁
Niche and ubbermench ( German Superman ) ☠️ Why you got throw Nazi 💩 into the bodybuilding sport. It’s for anyone who wants to work out💪🏽.
The Nazis hijacked Nietzschean philosophy, not the other way around.
While Nietzsche's philosophy is broad and covers a range of topics, it's not directly related to bodybuilding or strength training. However, his ideas about the importance of self-overcoming, self-creation, and the will to power is intertwined and relevant to the pursuit of physical strength and fitness.
Nietzsche believed that individuals should strive to overcome their limitations and become the best version of themselves.
Sounds pretty relevant to me - and had absolutely nothing to do with Nazi 💩 as you put it.
Thanks for commenting 😊
@@carvedouttastone Didn’t he die in a nut house?
HeiSsen straffan, heil Schwatrz weis ubermensch, danke
@@carvedouttastone Nietzsche is most misunderstood to this very day, when comedic shows make wannabe smart insertions of his quotes in diametric opposition to what he actually meant.
To work out everyday with actual no particular goal is what Nietzsche's ubermensch would do, isolate in his cave, seeing the sun reflect his own image; isolated and motivated.
Many scholars agree that it's an unachievable goal and the super-driven man is yet to be born.
Nietzsche wasn't nazi or antisemitic for that matters, his sister was.
Why did we gloss over the fact that Arnold did engage in certain homosexual activities early on in his career as a means of making money??? This is not some obscure secret but a rather well known fact to most Arnold “historians”.
I couldn't find anything solid confirming this whereas at least the Nazi stuff, was detailed across many people, many sources and many separate accounts. If you've got anything solid (besides Rich Lacy's internet posts) then I'd be happy to check it out
Look at the owner of Gold's during the Pumping Iron era. He was a gay hustler, gay porn star and gay porn film maker. Many bodybuilders from Gold's were in his movies. Ric Drasin was one of them.
as a bodybuilder myself and really following the knowledge mike Mentzer left behind I have to fundamentally disagree with most of this analysis. This is extremely one sided and biased as if a feminist wrote this sucking on the teet of of a vegan praying they will be blessed with Soy. I'm glad this channel isn't taking off, I can really see why. these breakdowns aren't based in fact or reality more from an emotional state of being just like thru the lens of a woman. Cheers.
Hey Jef. Thanks for commenting. What parts exactly didn't you agree with or which points do you think were one sided?