In The Shadows - Part Three - Pumping Iron's Golden Era PED Gurus
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Part Three Of this Pumping Iron series analyses PED use of some of the main players in the movie "Pumping Iron" including Robbie Robinson, Serge Nubret and the doctors who consulted many of the big names from the Golden Era.
Special thanks to Marc Martinez (Dream Big) for conversations concerning the historical details of this vid.
A referenced script will be added to my Medium blog page.
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I read many years ago about a gay medical doctor who passed out anabolic steroids to all the top bodybuilders in exchange for sexual favors. Never learned anymore about it. Never knew the doctor's name or what happened to him . . . until now.
A lot of research went into this video. Thank you for that!
I'm a bit hesitant to say definitively that Michalik was referring to Jekot, although that was the rumor.
I cross referenced this with Marc Martinez who has more insight to Michalik than me, and he said, Michalik being an East Coast guy, probably would have seen docs from that area.
The likelihood of a doc prescribing bodybuilders steroids for 2 decades being gay does seem to indicate the likelihood of it being Jekot though
plot twist, pinnaclepete was that doctor
Yep. Ric Drasin talked about the same Dr. The owner of Gold's during the Pumping Iron era was a gay hustler and pornstar. He directed gay loops with many of the bodybuilders in the gym. Ric Drasin was in an atleast one of those gay porn films.
@johnsambo9379 Wow! Ric too! It must have been hard to get the "good stuff" back then, and some bodybuilders would go the extra mile to get it. I've read that gay magazine Colt hired guys like Ken Sprague and Bob Birdsong. I know Chris Dickerson did pornographic shoots too.
Finally...The TRUTH...Comes Out!
Robby Robinson has always been known for saying and doing stupid things. I can see that hasn’t changed.
He does fire off some zingers at times, lol. These guys are all Bull$hit artists 😂
AWESOME episode!!
Excellent video about the most requested and interesting subject in bodybuilding, the steroid cycles of the Golden Era bodybuilders.
It all came to light after the Ben Johnson Scandal. Before thst it was pretty underground
Definitely agree. Everyone was doing it, but the US wanted to turn it into a political issue
When I think back on the sheer naivete I had in my teens and twenties regarding my expectations in bodybuilding as a natural, it makes me ill. Could be worse. I could have participated in the drug culture and died.
As an Italian BB enthusiast since the 70s, I recently discovered your channel. The videos are very well done and extremely interesting. But nothing is funnier than the imitations you do of characters when you quote their statements!!
Hahaha thank you so much for that kind feedback. I try to make the videos a little bit fun and humorous sometimes, despite the heavy handed content. Thanks again for watching
But the wolf on the hill.....is not as hungry as the wolf *climbing* the hill..... It's true.... he's not as hungry but when he wants the food ______________________.
....he "screws our freedoms?"
The script from Roby Robinson after injecting Durabolin or Primobolan 😂 was about hilarious as you get. Wow...
You're the only one to pick up on how ridiculous Ronny's quote was regarding PED use. Absurd but hilarious 😂
@@carvedouttastone I used to monitor a men's TRT blog, and there were fellows who timed their shots down to the hour. They claimed they could feel the injections coursing through their bloodstreams.
comment for algo - superb video
Great vid.. Just as an aside - Tren wasn't used just for beefing up cattle - Negma Tren Hex was prescription medication for use in humans - One of its primary uses was to aid elderly females with osteoporosis and arthritis. 👌
Yes, I also read that it was used also for pediatric medicine in instances, despite it being a very harsh androgenic for female (!!!!) children. The quote I was reading in the vid was direct from Duchaine's notes in his book regarding parabolan
Thanks for the kind words and comment as well mate. Really appreciate it
Great video, Shawn! Very informative. Btw, I wonder if you'd consider putting together something on Vince Gironda ...
I'd like to,.but visually I don't know how it would work because I don't like my videos to become just a photo slideshow. There's not a lot of video of Vince around so visually it might turn off most viewers. I was thinking of asking Karl Coyne the author of the Vince's Locker series if he wanted to come on and chat about Vince's story as he is the real guru/authority on the topic
I’ve been a fan of bodybuilding since the mid-eighties. All this stuff was all hushed up back then. No one talked about any of this. Love the video and information. Very much appreciated.
Arnold was on steroids when he was 15.
Thanks; a couple of comments. Please let me know what you think; having watched bodybuilding since the early 70s it looked to me as if there were changes in the drug protocols of guys I followed, which is never considered or discussed. Schwarzenegger in ‘74, looked closer to today’s drug protocols re size and vascularity, and I suspected since then that there was a difference in what he was taking. Primobolin for example; he was getting the rare Euro version, for what that’s worth. Robbie, summer of 77; the gym photos were freakier than before. Draper late 60s-unfortunately, the better photographers Weider employed don’t seem to have released their collections, leaving us with precious few pics of Draper, Oliva and others at their very best re diet/drugs. The second thing: GH usage. The first time I read about this was Pete Grymkowski mid-late 70s; it was never clear there were many GH users then beyond him and a few others, but based on what I’m hearing in this clip, maybe there were..It looked to me as if the 80s were mainly about the addition of GH, in terms of much thinner skin/greater cuts.
Draper looked phenomenal when he slimmed down in the late 60s. His waist size shrunk considerably and it gave him this incredible silhouette. Truly one of the most unique physiques ever.
Ric Drasin was at Golds AND World gym training with the Top guys, and he said they used lots of Steroids both oral/injectable but never saw any GH until sometime into the mid 1980's...
@@TheSpritz0 that seems to make sense; there was rare usage mid-late 70s but it required harder to get cadaver extracts.
@@hardcorehouse YES and I believe Ric he had no reason to lie he openly said to me they used lots of Steroids- he was very open.
@@hardcorehouseThat part...... as there was no synthetic GH available back in them days........
Another great video Shawn. Love all your photos and videos I’ve never seen. Looking forward to the next installment in this series. Would love to see a video on Mike Katz if you’re up for it.
Hey Jordan thanks as always mate. I should try interview Katz for the channel if he's down for it. Hard.thing about the golden era content is that they're not making anymore - so it's hard to keep recycling the same footage without it getting too dry and repetitive. :-)
Well researched as always. This is a great series!
Regarding thr Joe Weider impression, someone has to step on your nuts, and then it will be perfect.🤣
Great video!
I think Weider missed the boat and couldve been ahead of the time by pushing Robbie Robison as under 200 pound champion to gain more African American fans and future body builders think Lee Hanley who said he had a Robbie pic on his wall he drew but Weider didnt . Think back then if he had made him a mega star how many more fans he couldve made it faster , because i thought body builders like Robbie Robison , John Brown , Craig Monson who was a mass monster back then i think 280 doing skull crushers with 300 pounds , Weider had stars who couldve helped the sport get bigger faster and those 3 body builder would win outside their own country England , Germany win 1st place come home and be lucky to get top 10 if you dont know watch them , John Brown helped Shawn Ray on posing under rated .
Weider was widely responsible for steroid-abuse. Being a promoter of bodybuilding mags and Mr O contests..
Interesting without a doubt, so they were no angels then and the Doctors had no issues with prescribing anything available but i am sure it was PURE then.
16:55 "You're looking good Tom. but I'm still Six Foot Five" ;-)
That clip hits home how the bigger guys really overshadow the smaller stature guys. Peak condition Tom looks tiny against in clothes downsized Lou
Nice work keep them coming
Love the old footage!
Your Joe Weider impression is pretty spot on
Thanks! I had lunch with Robbie Robinson once and I can safely say he's the best at nailing the Weider impersonation 😂
Awesome video again. And I am looking forward to the next one.
I guess I have known a lot of this for a while, but your video really pounds home how ridiculous and awful it all is.
I was a big Arnold fanboy back in the 90's. Gradually, I have come to just about completely despise him. Same with Weider.
Great video. It seems Arthur Jones introduced some bodybuilders to certain anabolics.
Excellent episode!
Thanks mate. Hope you enjoy the others in the same series also. Cheers for the feedback
Dianabol - 'drops for children' (gocce per bambini) ! Bloody hell.
The Black Prince!!!
Legend! I trained arms with him 10 years ago and then we went to Firehouse restaurant for lunch. He told me all the stories and more. Shit I wish I had a camera back then :-/. Thanks for commenting mate
17:50 Draper looks awesome!!
Is that a Melbourne accent ? It’s quite unique
I'm from Perth, Western Australia originally, but I taught English overseas for a few years, so I had to smooth out the rough edges of my country town Aussie accent :-)
Are you Aussie?
@@carvedouttastone i see , im from the UK , i have friends and colleagues from Australia , great video .
@@9yearoldUmar thanks mate!
The funny thing... Arnold's chest was his second most amazing part (next to his arms), but it totally disappeared once he was no longer cycling.
Very true. Those calves and arms stayed consistent, but the rest shrivelled up to nothing
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Really interesting. Thank you.
Hey thanks for commenting and watching. Check out some of my other vids if you liked this one :-)
Sick video man, Top Notch once again
Cheers mate. Thanks for the kind words and glad you liked it
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Great video fellow country man 👌🏻💪🏻🇦🇺
Thanks mate. Where you from? I'm doing the lap right now - currently in the NT near Katherine.
@@carvedouttastone Im down in Canberra mate. Looking through your content it's all awesome videos im looking forward to bindge watching for a few dsys 👊🏻
Great to hear you found the channel. Hope you enjoy the vids. Thanks for watching and leaving a comment mate
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Excellent history work! Fascinating! thanks
Ironically, there are thousands of pictures of Arnold, the camera loved that guy, the greatest photographers took pictures of him, yet there is no pictures of him shoving a needle in his glute 😂
He would have to be one of the most photographed figures of modern history. Haha, agreed, but maybe that's how he got those impressive calves all of a sudden? (Joking, but would be interesting if that's where he hid all the oil)
Arnold wasn't stupid to let people take pictures of him doing roids Arnold does what's best for Arnold
There’s no pictures of him taking a crap either. So what?
@@rossscarbro4602 Arnold Schitznevver.
Screw your freedome swartz gonna swartz
Well researched - great video!