Means so much of you to say as I'm still just starting out and getting my head around the RUclips thing. If you ever have any content you want to see, let me know and I can target my ideas to growing the channel. Thanks again for your support multirevelator
That's so kind of you to say mate. Some of these earlier vids I made have gone largely ignored so I'm glad someone still likes them as I think they have a lot of heart
I suspect the reason Joe Weider didn't embrace pumping iron was personal. Pumping Iron was filmed shortly after "Stay Hungry." In that movie- written by Gaines, Joe is parodied as the owner of the gym that Arnold's character trains at. The gym owner brought Arnie over and has him as an indentured servant essentially. This didn't portray Joe in a kind light.
Man What a Great Analysis and Channel, I’ll be 60 Next week,Started Bodybuilding in 75,Natural My Whole life,Steve Reeves was My 1st Inspiration,Then Pumping Iron,I competed from Early to mid 80’s and beat Many enhanced athletes,The Only regret I have is believing Weiders Propaganda about Training,The Poundage’s shown & The Frequency quoted ,Made you believe they did that all the time,The Frequency of training was the only thing I didn’t do,trained 3-4x per week.I was strong,But trained too heavy,the advice from Gironda & Reeves actually was healthier & Better Results.We alll knew the 70’s guys took roids,But now with the internet & RUclips,We know they took a lot and started young,.I still train for Health with Total Gym Full body 3 x per week,Good Definition & Size upper body,But Severe arthritis in legs & Left Shoulder from Heavy poundage,My advice is to train very moderate poundage or light,The Heavy weights will hurt you in the Long Run.I actually Despise Weider for his Propaganda Thanks for all the Great Videos
I love reading your comment and experiences from guys like you Retrobilly who came before us. I'm a decade behind you, so I got to enjoy the early 90s era, but I love reading the previous generation's thoughts and memories of times past. Thank you also for that high praise. I hope to keep delivering content that resonates with people like yourself
@@carvedouttastone Thank You for the Cool Reply,I sent you one of My Competition Pics and one current one to show that life time training is important for Health & Well being, Keep up the fantastic content
@@carvedouttastone Thanks I really appreciate it!,Just want to share some advice from my years in the iron game and help prevent injury and life time training for health
Paulette Goddard - American actress who also was quite hot for her time, but considerably older by 1977. Carly Simon appears with James Taylor at the Pumping Iron premiere
RIGHT On Shawn. Best video yet. Loads of information I have never heard. Even more photos I’ve never seen. Engaging the whole way through, I didn’t want it to end.
Always appreciative of your feedback Jordan. I was a bit emotionally burnt out from Leo's death this week and a busy schedule, so I was a bit off on the technical presentation of this one, but I felt the summary of the final few minutes captured my feelings on my analysis of the film so far.
"Sagen er bøf" was the, crappy, Danish (yes, I am Danish) title for Raw Deal, not Pumping Iron. "Bøf" means steak, but in this context, it can mean something like big muscles, especially biceps.
Hey Crypto - IMDb has the Danish translation for Pumping Iron as "Sagen er Bøf" and.when I Google "Raw Deal" I see DVD covers stating "Sagen er Bank" - can you please clarify
Yes it was his grown son. I loved that part too. Never having kids of my own, I really think seeing them grown and accomplished would be so life affirming
I had always heard that the term “pumping iron” came from guys in prison who lifted weights. What Gaines said is news to me. I have no idea how honest Gaines is, but if Arnold had said it, I would highly doubt it.
Can't find anything on the etymology on the phrase beyond Gaines' explanation in the video, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was originally used by prisoners who lifted weights
A literal meeting of chalk and cheese....oh to have been a fly on the wall that day. Lol. He definitely got plugged into some notable names for time. It's a wonder they couldn't raise the funds with that roledex of contacts. Shred manoeuvring on butler's part to chase that subset of talent rather than the Hollywood notables
Got one more left in the pumping iron series because I don't want people thinking I'm beating this horse to death, lol. I'll move on to other great golden era stories, as I have lots of material and scripts written. Really appreciate the positive feedback also Eric. Means a lot.
I suspect the extra footage shows Arnold's sexual shenanigans, which are not good for running for political office and likely to humiliate your wife. Dan Lurie has also talked about Arnold's inappropriate behaviour around women as well. I have raw iron and found the emphasis placed by Arnold upon the drama rather disingenious. I suppose just like for Rock bands there are groupies for bodybuilding. I seem to remember Steve Michalik talking about when Bodybuilders coming to town for a show and feeling like Rock stars.
What gets me is that Arnold was never intimidated by people who were far above his economic station in life and probably considered himself their superior in every way. He blended in with the Kennedys and the other east coast elites as if they were old alumni
@@carvedouttastone He may have not started out in the club but he's in the club now and has been for a long time. People lile Arnold aren't born into the club they have to earn and work thier way in. Audi Vide Tace.
Quoting his interview "backstage at the 1972 Mr Olympia we had girls backstage giving us head, then we all went onstage and I won. It didn't bother me at all. In fact I went out there feeling like King Kong" And that was just one of the things he said In that interview lol
Theory was that Joe didn't want the sport breaking out from under his tight grip. Butler and Gaines likewise didn't want to align their portrayal of Bodybuilding with his ifbb circus and comic book portrayal of Bodybuilding. Either way, Weider profited immensely off the back of the free advertising pumping iron accrued across the mainstream exposure
He was a tight ass with money. Look how badly he used to pay his TOP guys like Arnold even. Yet as Arnold told in a story. He could spend thousands on furniture. Its all about how mean and tight you are as a person. It's like someone like Warren Buffet always boasting Bout how good he is at making money. While living like someone who earns minimum wage. While his money billions of it just sits there. Pointless. Do something good with some of that money. Like end Skid Row. But no just be greedy until you are dust. That's the problem with this world.
It's cool these older vids are still finding traction with a new audience. Please check out the other vids in my back catalogue, because I think they're just as good. Cheers for commenting!
@carvedouttastone welp he says they got the name in Alabama and I don't doubt that .Personally I think they came across it when they went to Terminal island. (Whatever) . Now, don't quote me but I believe they mentioned that they wanted to call the movie Pumping Up in the 25th Anniversary DvD extras. Another clue is when they were having breakfast Arnold says. "This one's talking about Pumping Up". That's a clue , No? To the point when Candice Bergen speaks in the car that his 15 mins of fame is done - yet he tells her that Swartz will be Gov. to which she replies, '" right and who will be the President, Ronald Reagan " and yeah by that time he ( Ronnie) was into politics- but that's pretty Damm specific- like a gag put of Back To The Future dontcha think. But no one's ever accused Bodybuilders of NOT embellishing . Then again- WTF do I know ? 😐
Another awesome video. I have never had a chance to read the interview that Arnold did for OUI magazine however years ago I knew a guy who had both the Playboy and Penthouse issues with Arnold's interviews. He refused to sell them to me but did let me read the interviews. All things considered; the Playboy interview was not bad in terms of hindering Arnold's future ambitions. The Penthouse interview was pretty bad though. Arnold specifically mentioned girls backstage at the 1972 Olympia providing oral to the bodybuilders before they went onstage. He also mentioned a few after-hours happenings at Gold's gym that obviously occurred when Joe Gold was not there. He clearly was not thinking that these interviews would be problematic for him in the future and yet he was so ambitious. Today we could probably chalk these up to just being early examples of Arnold occasionally being his own worst enemy.
I’m not knocking your opinion, but part of Arnold’s popularity among bodybuilders is his masculinity and promiscuity. Even his sleeping with his maid and having a son with her, hasn’t really damaged him much IMO. I wish I knew about the antics you mentioned when I became a fan of his in the mid 70’s. Honestly, I think they’re cool stories.
@@Observe555 True but back when Arnold was first running for Governor of California, he had to walk back those statements. It was cool at the time but became a problem for him later. Personally I think that the story about the ‘72 Olympia is awesome but then I’m never going to go into politics!
you really do incredible work, this is just fantastic. I'm a Zane fan and loved the extra bits about him. Seriously your work is appreciated.
Means so much of you to say as I'm still just starting out and getting my head around the RUclips thing. If you ever have any content you want to see, let me know and I can target my ideas to growing the channel. Thanks again for your support multirevelator
I keep coming back to this masterpiece. I especially love the reminder at the end. Thanks!
That's so kind of you to say mate. Some of these earlier vids I made have gone largely ignored so I'm glad someone still likes them as I think they have a lot of heart
@@carvedouttastone They do! And I can feel it...I think that's what makes your videos so captivating. It's your "presence"
What an ending! 10 /10!
Yes, I liked this ending of this one too. Thanks for noticing and commenting.
I suspect the reason Joe Weider didn't embrace pumping iron was personal. Pumping Iron was filmed shortly after "Stay Hungry." In that movie- written by Gaines, Joe is parodied as the owner of the gym that Arnold's character trains at. The gym owner brought Arnie over and has him as an indentured servant essentially. This didn't portray Joe in a kind light.
Great point DM. No love lost between Gaines/Butler and Weider it seems.
@@carvedouttastone Great work btw! Speaking my language with this content 👍
Fantastic video 10/10!
I love that you loved it IH. Cheers for the kind words
Man What a Great Analysis and Channel,
I’ll be 60 Next week,Started Bodybuilding in 75,Natural My Whole life,Steve Reeves was My 1st Inspiration,Then Pumping Iron,I competed from Early to mid 80’s and beat Many enhanced athletes,The Only regret I have is believing Weiders Propaganda about Training,The Poundage’s shown & The Frequency quoted ,Made you believe they did that all the time,The Frequency of training was the only thing I didn’t do,trained 3-4x per week.I was strong,But trained too heavy,the advice from Gironda & Reeves actually was healthier & Better Results.We alll knew the 70’s guys took roids,But now with the internet & RUclips,We know they took a lot and started young,.I still train for Health with Total Gym Full body 3 x per week,Good Definition & Size upper body,But Severe arthritis in legs & Left Shoulder from Heavy poundage,My advice is to train very moderate poundage or light,The Heavy weights will hurt you in the Long Run.I actually Despise Weider for his Propaganda
Thanks for all the Great Videos
I love reading your comment and experiences from guys like you Retrobilly who came before us. I'm a decade behind you, so I got to enjoy the early 90s era, but I love reading the previous generation's thoughts and memories of times past. Thank you also for that high praise. I hope to keep delivering content that resonates with people like yourself
@@carvedouttastone Thank You for the Cool Reply,I sent you one of My Competition Pics and one current one to show that life time training is important for Health & Well being, Keep up the fantastic content
If you are doing body building right, a twice a week program is more than enough. Even on steroids
Just saw the pics now. Awesome classic shape and still got it. Bodybuilding for life. Thanks Retrobilly
@@carvedouttastone Thanks I really appreciate it!,Just want to share some advice from my years in the iron game and help prevent injury and life time training for health
I'm glad I found this channel. Excellent video
@ 10:58 Mike Mentzer on the left of the photo! Franco Columbu on the right. Some broad who may have been somebody at the time in the center.
I think it was the singer Carly Simon from memory - she was definitely there that evening, but I'll have to check the photo later to confirm
@@carvedouttastone Carly Simon was smokin' way back then. I'm curious, but this isn't Carly.
Paulette Goddard - American actress who also was quite hot for her time, but considerably older by 1977. Carly Simon appears with James Taylor at the Pumping Iron premiere
RIGHT On Shawn. Best video yet. Loads of information I have never heard. Even more photos I’ve never seen. Engaging the whole way through, I didn’t want it to end.
Always appreciative of your feedback Jordan. I was a bit emotionally burnt out from Leo's death this week and a busy schedule, so I was a bit off on the technical presentation of this one, but I felt the summary of the final few minutes captured my feelings on my analysis of the film so far.
Thank you for the documentary! Very informative and entertaining!
Glad you enjoyed it Simri!
"Sagen er bøf" was the, crappy, Danish (yes, I am Danish) title for Raw Deal, not Pumping Iron. "Bøf" means steak, but in this context, it can mean something like big muscles, especially biceps.
Hey Crypto - IMDb has the Danish translation for Pumping Iron as "Sagen er Bøf" and.when I Google "Raw Deal" I see DVD covers stating "Sagen er Bank" - can you please clarify
@@carvedouttastone Sagen er bøf is the title of pumping iron in Denmark you are correct
@@carvedouttastone bøf can also just be a translation of buff.
Thanks for clarifying
The greatest mystery of all is that no one took Mike Katz aside and told him to do something with that Herman Munster hairstyle
Lol, yes Katz's hair has become its own meme over time.
Great compilation of clips; so many I hadn't seen before.
Glad you enjoyed it mate.
So that was Katz's son hanging on his arm at the end !? - Thats the best part of this video
Yes it was his grown son. I loved that part too. Never having kids of my own, I really think seeing them grown and accomplished would be so life affirming
Excellent- keep them coming!
One more left in this series and then time to move onto something different :-)
Glad you're enjoying them though
I had always heard that the term “pumping iron” came from guys in prison who lifted weights. What Gaines said is news to me. I have no idea how honest Gaines is, but if Arnold had said it, I would highly doubt it.
Can't find anything on the etymology on the phrase beyond Gaines' explanation in the video, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was originally used by prisoners who lifted weights
Outstanding research. I’ve never seen that Warhol pic … must have been an interesting conversation… if at all ;)
A literal meeting of chalk and cheese....oh to have been a fly on the wall that day. Lol. He definitely got plugged into some notable names for time. It's a wonder they couldn't raise the funds with that roledex of contacts. Shred manoeuvring on butler's part to chase that subset of talent rather than the Hollywood notables
@@carvedouttastone Look at the body language between them ;)
Agreed on his marketing to that specific crowd. Keep these coming please !
Got one more left in the pumping iron series because I don't want people thinking I'm beating this horse to death, lol.
I'll move on to other great golden era stories, as I have lots of material and scripts written.
Really appreciate the positive feedback also Eric. Means a lot.
@@carvedouttastone More power to ya mate . Best Golden Era vids … ever ;)
Excellent job compiling the clips and footage as well as intertwining it with your commentary ;) keep the videos coming!
Thank you my love ❤️
I suspect the extra footage shows Arnold's sexual shenanigans, which are not good for running for political office and likely to humiliate your wife. Dan Lurie has also talked about Arnold's inappropriate behaviour around women as well.
I have raw iron and found the emphasis placed by Arnold upon the drama rather disingenious.
I suppose just like for Rock bands there are groupies for bodybuilding. I seem to remember Steve Michalik talking about when Bodybuilders coming to town for a show and feeling like Rock stars.
Yet another great video boss loving your content!
Awesome vid man
Thanks for that kind feedback mate. Hope you enjoy the other vids in the series also
Excellent content mate 👍
Thank you. I hope you enjoyed it. I always appreciate the comments.
Very informative.
Cheers Andy. Glad you enjoyed it
Love the masonic handshake with Ted Kennedy and Arnold.
What gets me is that Arnold was never intimidated by people who were far above his economic station in life and probably considered himself their superior in every way. He blended in with the Kennedys and the other east coast elites as if they were old alumni
@@carvedouttastone He may have not started out in the club but he's in the club now and has been for a long time. People lile Arnold aren't born into the club they have to earn and work thier way in. Audi Vide Tace.
Yep agree, and he also joined that club with a fair amount of old fashioned chutzpah. He wasn't playing second fiddle to anyone
@@carvedouttastone True.
❤
Thank you bro
Bro I spit out my beer literally. There were backstage orgies!?!?!?
Quoting his interview "backstage at the 1972 Mr Olympia we had girls backstage giving us head, then we all went onstage and I won. It didn't bother me at all. In fact I went out there feeling like King Kong"
And that was just one of the things he said In that interview lol
Wen I read how hard it was for them to get the money to launch the film I was surprised why Joe Weider didn't help out. Bizarre?
Theory was that Joe didn't want the sport breaking out from under his tight grip. Butler and Gaines likewise didn't want to align their portrayal of Bodybuilding with his ifbb circus and comic book portrayal of Bodybuilding. Either way, Weider profited immensely off the back of the free advertising pumping iron accrued across the mainstream exposure
He was a tight ass with money. Look how badly he used to pay his TOP guys like Arnold even. Yet as Arnold told in a story. He could spend thousands on furniture.
Its all about how mean and tight you are as a person. It's like someone like Warren Buffet always boasting Bout how good he is at making money. While living like someone who earns minimum wage.
While his money billions of it just sits there. Pointless. Do something good with some of that money. Like end Skid Row. But no just be greedy until you are dust. That's the problem with this world.
Great video! Glad I found this channel.
It's cool these older vids are still finding traction with a new audience. Please check out the other vids in my back catalogue, because I think they're just as good. Cheers for commenting!
Pumping Arnold
Really ? Then why did they want to call it Pumping Up but changed the name instead ? Somethin dont add up
What do you mean?
@carvedouttastone welp he says they got the name in Alabama and I don't doubt that .Personally I think they came across it when they went to Terminal island. (Whatever) . Now, don't quote me but I believe they mentioned that they wanted to call the movie Pumping Up in the 25th Anniversary DvD extras. Another clue is when they were having breakfast Arnold says. "This one's talking about Pumping Up". That's a clue , No?
To the point when Candice Bergen speaks in the car that his 15 mins of fame is done - yet he tells her that Swartz will be Gov. to which she replies, '" right and who will be the President, Ronald Reagan " and yeah by that time he ( Ronnie) was into politics- but that's pretty Damm specific- like a gag put of Back To The Future dontcha think. But no one's ever accused Bodybuilders of NOT embellishing .
Then again- WTF do I know ? 😐
Did Zane go to planet fitness? 😂
If planet fitness had no leg equipment. His legs were shocking that year...
I was not a fan of Zane being Mr O. I always felt that the next Mr O’s post Arnold should be bigger, not smaller and slender like Zane.
Excellent!
Thank you for that kind praise Walter. Much appreciated
Another good one
Thanks man. One more to come in this series and then I'll tackle the next era lol
whos the girl at 4.40
Think it's Raquel Welsh from memory. Taken with Arnold at the Golden Globes.
Another awesome video. I have never had a chance to read the interview that Arnold did for OUI magazine however years ago I knew a guy who had both the Playboy and Penthouse issues with Arnold's interviews. He refused to sell them to me but did let me read the interviews. All things considered; the Playboy interview was not bad in terms of hindering Arnold's future ambitions. The Penthouse interview was pretty bad though. Arnold specifically mentioned girls backstage at the 1972 Olympia providing oral to the bodybuilders before they went onstage. He also mentioned a few after-hours happenings at Gold's gym that obviously occurred when Joe Gold was not there. He clearly was not thinking that these interviews would be problematic for him in the future and yet he was so ambitious. Today we could probably chalk these up to just being early examples of Arnold occasionally being his own worst enemy.
I’m not knocking your opinion, but part of Arnold’s popularity among bodybuilders is his masculinity and promiscuity. Even his sleeping with his maid and having a son with her, hasn’t really damaged him much IMO. I wish I knew about the antics you mentioned when I became a fan of his in the mid 70’s. Honestly, I think they’re cool stories.
@@Observe555 True but back when Arnold was first running for Governor of California, he had to walk back those statements. It was cool at the time but became a problem for him later. Personally I think that the story about the ‘72 Olympia is awesome but then I’m never going to go into politics!