The Harsh Truth About Victor Wembanyama
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I'll put some perspective on Duncan's rookie year and the team's subsequent turnaround. You briefly mentioned it at the beginning, but it's worth reiterating that Robinson had missed essentially the entire previous year, so their 36 game improvement was just as much due to his return as it was Duncan's involvement. It was a massive double whammy for the team that led to their first ever title within 2 years of pairing them up.
Yea the video makes it sound like Tim led the charge but in reality the spurs had won 59 games the season prior to Robinsons injury so a 56 win season wouldn't have been unbelievable even without Timmy and only Robinson coming back from injury.
@@bigoprotege Since were giving context this Robinson wasn't prime admiral he was step slow and not as dominating as he was in his prime. Tim in large part did the heavy lifting it would be like getting 07 Shaq still good but not the same as prime shaq. Tim won rookie of the year and made the all NBA team as a rookie for a reason. No timmy That spurs team would have been 40-50 wins max. that being said when a team purposely tanks the win total always jumps for example this spurs team would rest sochan and keldon randomly plus missed Vassell for half the season. Those three guys were responsible for over 80% of the teams scoring having all three back playing close to 82 games and not throwing games on purpose will lead to a win total jump without bringing in Wemby.
@@ejj9956 I agree to this. Tim was definitely the best player in Spurs at the time
@@ejj9956 Robinson didn't start his noticeable decline until the following season. They were very much the Twin Towers that they were reputed to be during their first season together, essentially putting up the same numbers. He was more like '04 Shaq than '07 Shaq.
Bird's rookie year turn-around was way more impressive since it was mostly the same roster as the prior season with Bird being the only significant addition.
As a Spurs fan, this video just makes me appreciate Tim Duncan even more.
I hope Wemby stays healthy.
Tim is a HOF player but his impact to the spurs his rookie year is a bit overrated. The spurs were a 50+ win team in 94-95 and 95-96. They tanked the 96-97 year hence 20 wins. The following year they went right back to being the spurs with 50+ wins. Fans are putting too much pressure on wemby. He's just like ralph Sampson who had all the same attributes (mind you the game was played differently back then) and his career was considered a bust even though he's a HOF. This type of hype has the potential of ruining his legacy.
@@Hooderaw 😂
Never seen a player with that body type stay healthy for too long. There is something odd about the mechanics of his limbs that smells of injury … I hope I’m wrong , the guy is a phenomenal player already .
@@Hooderaw they didn't really chose to tank. It kind of got forced on them when Robinson went down. The injury bug hit hard that year, it wasn't just Robinson.
@@theomichael6665 Thank you doctor smell 😂
It also bears remembering that typically first draft picks/high draft picks are going to bad teams, often institutionally broken teams. I think part of the Wemby hype is that he is going to the Spurs who are actually well-run and have infrastructure that is likely to help him - the team does sorta suck though. I feel as though the biggest risk with him is that he just going to end up hurt all of the time.
I don't want to prejudge it, but his body type is like an injury magnet. He will probably need a lot of time to recover, as well as adjust to another country with a different basketball culture. It won't be easy or quick, it will probably take years for him to put on the right amount of muscles and simply become an all star.
He similar to Abdul Jabbar..a few inches in height and weight. Get him up to Kareem's body and he can last
I don't think Victor's case depends on what happened with Kareem (players with similar body types don't have the same stamina, injury proneness etc) but I agree he will probably find his balance even if it takes time
@@user-zd9vy4nw1e Y’all said the same ish about Kevin Durant. Remind me again when KD packed on size before winning chips and becoming one of the greatest players of the modern era 🙄
What are you talking about? I just said he might have injury issues and you bring up KD as an example to correct me? Fr? KD is the last player you want to bring up in this discussion mate... "Strengthening exercises not only strengthen your muscles, but also support your bones, tendons, ligaments, cartilage, and other connective tissues in the process. As your body as a whole improves, it becomes easier to control your movements and avoid future injury. Please dont tell me you dont know it.
Why wasn’t David Robinson on the list of players that won multiple rings with the team that drafted him?
Have people forgotten how influential he was to Duncan’s career?
Many of the points made about the spurs and Duncan seem to be neglecting the fact that there was already an mvp on our team.
He a nobody
@@giuliomoncada4434 A nobody? Lol. He owns 5% of the team. You obviously haven’t been watching the nba for very long.
The comment was about the fact that David Robinson was drafted by the spurs, played his entire career with them, and won two championships with them.
They never would have been in the position to get TD, and he most likely wouldn’t have developed into same player without Robinson. Those aren’t my words, Tim said that himself.
My guess it’s because David Robinson didn’t win for them until Tim Duncan arrived so he didn’t really “lead” them to multiple championships
@@jayromeo940 I can see that point of view, but then the chart needs to read a little differently, don’t you think?
Robinson really had no one around him when he was in his prime yet still won the MVP in 95.
Again, he was a major part of Duncan’s development. I watched it. We wouldn’t have have won the 99 championship without Robinson though. I know that one gets scoffed at, but it was the first and incredible to watch at the time.
David Robinson is one of the greatest big men to play lolll. This idiot calling him a nobody probably never even dribbled a basketball lollllllllll
David Robinson being injured in the 96-97 was a huge reason they had such a big win difference compared to the next season, not just Tim Duncan being drafted.
Which is exactly why they even got the first pick
Ronaldo better
It doesn't really matter because had Robinson not been injured, the Spurs would be sitting here with 0 rings and Tim Duncan would've probably only gotten 2 or 3 rings. Kobe and Lebron might even have more rings as a result of Duncan having less rings.
@@chadbrisco4042 Sorry, but what does any of that have to do with his comment? He's not saying anything about if Robinson hadn't been injured. He's only giving much-needed context to Jxmy's fact at 8:15 about Tim getting them 36 more wins.
Although Tim did a lot for them and was one of the greatest rookies, a huge reason they even had that giant win increase in Tim's rookie season was because that prior team was missing their best player which resulted in a bunch of losses.
Then in the next season they get Tim + Robinson comes back (albeit a step slower), so obviously they'd get a ton of wins compared to the season where they were missing their best player.
Jxmy left out or ignored all of this context and stated, "This is the greatest leap simply by adding a rookie."
We all know this team is shady that’s why Kawhi left. Fake injury to get another number 1 pick(Robinson/Spurs) landed them Duncan
I hope the kid has a great career, the immense pressure fans/media is putting on him is unrealistic
I heard some news sites saying he was gonna be kareem at the worst
@@clashwithyourmum8665 really hope that becomes true.
@@clashwithyourmum8665 That reminds me of when LeBron was told in high school that he was going to be a bust if he did not make the Hall of Fame.
a better prospect for his sport than someone like McDavid or Bedard were in their hockey draft years? somehow I doubt the validity of these claims.
McDavid near handidly scored over 150 points this year and thats in a league where the best of the best struggle to average a point per game every season he has essentially changed the game back to what it was in the 80's when goals/points came in far more abundance.
@@clashwithyourmum8665 It's just clickbait obviously, nobody in their right mind would expect that on an undrafted player.
Pop was briefly mentioned in here but I think that his influence on Tim Duncan's success here is understated. Having Duncan and Pop by Wemby's side will be so valuable for his rise in the NBA
As of February 2024 people are saying that he exceeded expectations 😂😂😂
Every video Jimmy makes is a 10/10
He just uploaded a 10+ min video 1 min ago. Just chill
You didnt even watch it yet stop meat riding
For bro uploads straight Masterpieces🔥🔥
Bro desperate for that top comment
@@mamoodcali4073makes it even better. Don’t even need to watch the vid but you already know it’s quality is it’s Jimmy👍🏽
Just got news that Victor would be mentored by Duncan, Ginobili and Parker. The thought of this is giving me massive goosebumps. I really hope he lives up to his hype
bro what is ur name💀💀
@@BALLIN98 lmao
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That is pretty cool but the fact remains, odds are he'll get injured and never live up
You fail to mention all the hard work and dedication he put into growing to 7'3".
just cause ur tall dont mean ur good at basketball. and its harder to shoot the longer wingspand u have
@@justspazafacts
IM HERE END OF REGULAR SEASON BRO WAS DEFINETLY WRONG
THATS WHAT IM SAYING
The fact that Victor will be mentored by Pop,Duncan,Ginoblli,Parker and David Robinson is truly insane.
Had no idea he was in tune with them all obviously pop but I guess it makes sense every single nba players or coach for the last 2 decades already has a take for victor and has acknowledged him and out there 2 cents
It’s not that deep bruh
They're just gonna be giving him advice which players do all the time. The main issue is his body and likelihood of injuries.
@@AnonNameless facts I've said the same exact thing he has to build body mass and gain weight in general like look at Yao Ming's health in his career his build was just one that was destined to fail eventually I think victor will struggle with foot injuries or have bad knees atleast
@@ThemMetroKids1 he’ll be fine, his parents prob spend shit loads on trainers. this guy is a rich kid if u didn’t know, and it looks like he’s avoiding weight training which is probly why he’s so tall. weight training early on with bad form is what causes most injuries.
It's blessing that he wound up on a team that isn't expecting him to turn things around overnight, and will shield him from constant media scrutiny.
Not from Charles Barkley tho
@@aayanamir1758 Charles makes very honest assessments
Yes, because the haters and bias talking heads are already attacking the young man without seeing what he can do in the NBA! Most of them fear that he will be a great player and overshadow their favorites! They were wrong about a lot of players, like Curry was too small! Quarterbacks drafted high were going to be great and flopped! Give Victor a chance..
True much better to be drafted by San Antonio, a relatively small market in the league compared to being drafted by a team in the top 3 big cities/markets where he would no doubt be scrutinized and hounded by local media on a constant basis. He’s going to the right place for him given all the expectations.
They hate it that San Antonio Spurs got the big man! Several teams wanted him!
Love these videos. Keep em coming
One thing worth mentioning is that if there were ever a coach who wouldn't give in to the hype & would focus on developing Wembanyama the right way with healthy expectations, Coach Pop is probably top of the list. Spurs are fortunate to be able to pick him, but I'd say Victor is even more fortunate to be picked by them.
First time I've come across your channel. Great video with excellent points and visual aids! (minus misspelling Andre Iguodala's name at one point lmao I'm a Warriors fan so I had to say it).
As a 76ers fan who's seen two recent 1st overall picks completely fall off within a few years of being drafted, I'm holding my breath on Wembanyama
Agreed.
Part of that is the sixers organization though.
Fultz is beginning to look a lot better
Lol "trust the process"
Jokic deserved MVP!!
From 1998-2022, 6 of the #1 picks in the draft have gone on to win an NBA championship. 5 of those 6 have either played with Lebron James or with the Golden State Warriors
Edit: Not counting Lebron since there wasn't another Lebron James on any of his championship teams
LeCarry
All? Who was the outlier? This is fake stats. Kyrie, Bogut, Davis, Howard, Lebron, Wiggins are the only champions and they all played with lebron or warriors
That's crazy
@@jalensos8982 Lebron himself I assume. Because all the others either got their rings with Lebron or Steph. Going off the chart in the video, Dwight, AD, Kyrie all got their rings with Lebron. Bogut and Wiggins got their rings with the Warriors. Bogut in 2015 and Wiggins last year.
Exactly
Casual NBA fan here who was just fascinated with the story of Wembanyama -- this video is great content. Great job, dude, for real. You earned a sub, keep it up!
It would be shocking if he led the Spurs to the playoffs next season. People are expecting him to be great, but I don’t think anyone is expecting him to turn that team around in 1-2 seasons
"Yeah, this kid is going to get 15 championships."
"I fully expect 70+ points per game."
"If he has a child in the next decade, I think his kid will be so talented he'll be playing alongside his father in the NBA at age 12."
The expectations are getting out of control.
"Kid shoots 27% on 5 3PA per game. Waits until he gets to 30% before he starts jacking them up like Curry"
I expect 25 years played in nba and his career average to be 35ppg average 14 rpg 4 assist 3 blocks 1 steal, 7 championships , 12 mvp , 23 all nba 1st team 2 all nba 2nd team 25 time all star 12 time dpoy 14 time scoring leader 18 time blocks leader 50k+ points all time 20k+ rebounds all time or else he’s a bust
@@dansplash6008 At least 4 100+ point games or he's trash
He's also gonna get three doctorates during the off-season and an EGOT by age 30.
“He’ll be so relentlessly and naturally great they’ll call him the Jimmy Highroller of playing basketball”
every video feels like a documentary, every video you can feel the energy the video is attempting to convey. you curious as to how the video will continue to play out. Top tier editing. and top tier narrating. truly somebody who is special at creating content.
Theres a 99% chance this kid will get injured in his first couple seasons and never live up to the hype. Time will tell...
@@CraptorsfanY 99% is a bit high
meat riding is crazy
It's quite literally 50/50.
It's clear this kid is an anomaly for his size and agility. So Either he's going to be a taller KD esque who's been able to dominate and win mvps before major injuries and still come back or he's gonna be like Greg Oden. The silver lining is so far he doesn't have an injury history and the spurs are absolutely not going to make the same mistake they made with kawhi. They're gonna make sure the kid is as healthy as possible.
He's going to be surrounded by NBA vets which is seriously missing in most of the NBA. Tim Duncan was also pretty undersized in an Era that had prime Shaq and there are other tall lanky players who succeeded like KG.
What people fail to realize is the NBA nowadays limits what defenses can do to a player. So Wemby could legitimately shoot over everyone for a 12 to 15 footer every time and its money. Who's going to stop that?
If someone with a glass body like AD can succeed then Webby definitely can with appropriate spacing. If anyone can figure it out, it's gonna be Pop
@@cheetah219 incorrect, 27 players over 7 ft in the nba ever, 7 of which had "notable careers" 2 of those didn't suffer career ending injuries. 2/27 is .07, LITERALLY 99% chance bud
Very insightful! Well done! I just subscribed after watching this great piece of content👍
The two greatest turnarounds in NBA history via the Spurs only 2 number 1 draft picks... and while that trend may continue, the Admiral in 89 and Duncan in 97 were both fully grown and mature men, not just physically but mentally and emotionally as well. Two of the highest quality people the game has ever seen, and two of the most gracious and beloved teammates. Time will quickly tell if Victor is cut from the same cloth and if he is he will continue that dynasty of great life-long Spurs big men!!
I do just want to say that I love your videos in general though. This is only the second time I've ever had any major disagreements with your in-depth takes. Keep doing what you doing!
Spot on! I enjoyed the duo and 90s early 2000 era of basketball. People look at the talent and height, while forgetting about the emotional, spiritual, and mental characters of the person.
Well said. People forget that the Spurs actually drafted Robinson in 1987, but he had to do Navy duties for 2 years. This dude was ahead of his time. He got disciplined, grew too big for the ships and entered the NBA already a grown man like you said. That's why he really only played 14 seasons, 13 if you discount when he was injured. He was a specimen at the time.
I’m worried about his health, he tries to contest or push on the wrong center, I’m afraid he’ll break something. I know someone is gonna try and rough him up, and I don’t want to see him get torn apart
Guarding high schoolers is one thing, guarding beasts like Nurkic, Jokic, AD, Embid is different. Or trying to block Gianis. He will need some muscle to compete in the NBA and most players lose soft touch after they get 30-60 pounds of muscle and it takes insane work ethics to get it back. There will be a long process there, hope he can make it.
@@XelNaga89 ofc and he will but he’s going against grown men in Europe so not high schoolers - more physical than even college
@@prunie9797 The French league isn't that as physical as the Euroleague or any top pro leagues in Europe nor in Australia. Most French NBA players aren't necessarily known to be physical, are they?
Also, Victor's teams weren't good enough to reach the Euroleague so he never fought against heftier 7footers that much in his life. The good thing about him is that he got access to the best care a young athlete would need, so I hope he'll hold up for years.
I feel like Pop is smart enough to realize this, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing a sf/pf position moreso than center. Using him like a taller Durant/Duncan. Lots of short range shots, good post moves, but not necessarily trying to bang inside all the time.
Guy played a giant named lofton jr. Hell be okay
I understand that Duncan had a huge impact on the team, but let's not forget that Robinson, who was an All-NBA and All-Defensive 1st team the year before getting injured came back in Duncan's rookie year..that 36+ games jump is not only due to Duncan's greatness !
Duh
Robinson was an absolute weapon
he averaged 12 a game
@@jxmmykriminallive you are a unit dawg
Exactly my thought
Love your vid's. Keep it up please!
Your upload are pure gold
Hopefully he can stay healthy like Mark Eaton, who was 7ft 4 but still played 80 games a season, 30 mins a night, every year for a decade and wasn't a rookie until he was 26.
Obviously he's gonna have the ball in his hands and be required to do a LOT more tho...
Mark Eaton didn't jump alot so he started on the ground. Look at Jokic he's been one of the few big men thats remained healthy because he playstyle keeps him avoiding twists or sprains.
Pop basically invented load management, so I think he'll be fine tbh. I doubt he plays anywhere close to 80 games this year.
@@tridra5714I currently go to school Mark Eaton went to
Not even close and he wasn't healthy. Most at this height get injured.
You're totes forgetting how huge Eaton was. Outweighing Wemby by, what, 50 pounds? Something like that. And that's like 45 pounds of muscle. Plus, all Eaton did was block shots. There is a very good chance Wemby will be banged around so much he'll end up being a really good bench player.
Absolutely great analysis. Your point is why I had no problems with Giannis' statement after he got bounced out by the heat. Winning a chip aint easy. Just getting to a CSF sets you apart from many teams. We as fans and media act like we have the eyes of God when we really can't be sure of anything in this sport with so many intangibles.
And now that the Heat are running through the East that loss (especially w/ Giannis missing 2.75 games in the series) doesn't look so bad.
@@keenannorris3309 Yep
But when it comes to LeBron even at 38 people still call his season a failure if he fails to win a ring. The standards set for him are much higher than any NBA legend including MJ.
It's called the LeBron James effect. The man has been to 10 Finals, because he's done it, it gives fans who grew up in his era a false sense of reality. Hate on LeBron if you want but when it's all said and done, his career numbers will look insane as time goes on. LeBron James may not be Jordan but he is quite literally the Wilt Chamberlain of his time.
The Stat King.
The Greatest Individual Career of an NBA Player.
@@3KRacing i literally said nothing about hating Bron, in fact he's my goat, I'm just saying how haters and critics get hypocritical by giving other legends excuses and passes for their failures, but when it's comes to LeBron it's either a ring or his season is a failure, and when he wins people still find ways to discredit his rings.
This video was amazing. Well done!
Great video my guy keep it up 👌
Jimmy’s videos are the epitome of “quality over quantity.” Every time I see a new one is up, I KNOW it’s going to be outstanding!
Do you like BTM?
Thank you Jimmy, lets just enjoy what he can do. I wanna see him grow year in, year out, forget the ridiculous expectations people are putting on him
I honestly think he'll be great but maybe not the #1 on a title contender? I see a lot of Evan Mobley in him - very long, versatile defender that can step out to the perimeter on offense. He could win DPOYs, sure, but Finals MVP? Idk... My guess is he ends up being the Robin to an elite guard/wing that can carry the offense.
Most of the expectations on wemby are high, but this is pretty low.
@Jacob Walker maybe man, he'll get a lot of boards, block a tonne of shots and he'll be great around the rim. His passing and distance shooting will improve, hopefully he'll get the green light under Pop, he has the potential to make all star teams and all defensive teams. He's 2/3 inches taller than Kareem Abdul Jabbar fgs
@@olimercer835 yeah the ceiling for him is the stratosphere, but the fact of the matter is that guys don't ever pan out like we think. I'd say a DPOY/All NBA prediction is more than fair for a teenaged #1 pick.
Bro the suspense at the end of every vid is so sick
Glad I saw this in my recommended last week but PtR just released an article on the vid
Jimmy always brings out the charts & diagrams. Never let’s us down
Kobe wasn’t drafted by the lakers 🤷
Yeah. He's not a legit analyst at all, though.
idk. he made it out like tim duncan single handedly turned the spurs around his rookie season and that's just not how it happened. i was very let down by that.
@@conedx it's what you should expect from jxmy. He's been sacrificing honest analysis for the sake of storytelling forever. It's just tabloid entertainment, nothing else.
Damn 👻
I always say Tim Duncan would be who I would want to be if I was tall and could ball. Dude was a quiet monster, just came in and won game after game without giving any smile or frown.
I agree. I don’t really like guys who only talk. Even if they can back it up most of the time, at some point, it gets excessive, but they get a by because they’re good. I’d much rather be someone who can fume quietly, play calmly and do what I need to do. Flashy or not, by the end of a decade, you’ll most likely be remembered for the hardware. Not for how well you could get into other people’s heads.
He captained a dinasty and then just dipped.
And then there was that time that while on the bench Timmy quietly laughed and cloaked/smothered most of his mirth with a towel.................. and got booted out of the game!
@@tarico4436 clip?
@@graysonflows look up tim Duncan's laughing ejection
I’m so ready for the video about the Celtics/ Heat series.
I agree the amount of hype and expectations we put on these kids each year just seems to be getting to a point is ridiculous.
To be fair, I don't think many people are expecting Victor to transform SA into contenders in his rookie season. I think what they're saying is they expect him to be an all-time great by the time his career is over. That's the potential he has. But I think most people aren't going to kill him if SA misses the playoffs next season.
I’m just 1 spurs fan, but I just can’t wait to see him grow under pops leadership and the og big 3’s mentorship. I personally don’t expect him to win us chips straight out the gate, but I am also excited because SA does really well with player development
I think Victor is going to be a great player. I know the expectations are high with him but I believe he will be able to play at a high level and hopefully play in a championship team if they build pieces around him. My only concern is injuries because we don’t want something similar to Zion. As long he can stay consistent on his training and conditioning, he should be good for every game he plays.
I’d say if he takes the Giannis route he should be fine… just needs more muscle and he should be straight
There are only two questions about him. #1 by far is his health. Players his height are usually riddled with injuries. And that is while playing off the ball. We have never seen an on the ball player at 7’0 let alone at 7’5. If I were the Spurs I would play him off the ball even if it means he won’t reach his full potential. By doing this they raise the chances of him staying healthy from 8% to 51%
They say that about every first pick lol
@@johndurrer7869 pop needs to train him up conservative , just hang around the paint, don't draw any charges, small jumps right around the rim, nothing too fancy. Exploit his length but don't ask him to carry the offense. Keep those feet on the ground, we won't need superman once we have some first round picks lined up around him.
@@acloserlook5823 the spurs are already a well constructed team. Vassell Sochan Keldon Wemby not to mention the league’s 2nd highest scoring bench unit we’re gonna be good next season
THANK YOU!!! Honestly I've always been thinking about that!
In all honesty, I’ve seen him play for France, and there were many situations where he got bullied by european centers inside the paint, and besides the injuries I think that is the biggest concern with him at this point. I wish him a great carrier in the NBA, I’m still not convinced he will perform as he’s expected to. I hope I’m wrong.
He needs to build some more muscles and this will come as he ages a bit. Remember how skinny Giannis was when he joined the nba and look at him now
@@mrblueblack You have no idea if he will put on muscle. Some body types just can't (endomorphic). Kareem never did, Duncan never did.
@@uclajd endomorphic body types can still put on muscle. I have the exact body type you are describing so I know what you mean. Some players don’t necessarily need to put on muscle if they have enough strength and skill but from what I see he’ll get ploughed through so looking at how young he is it would be a huge plus to have more muscle . Just my two cents
@@uclajdThe whole body type thing is outdated, useless, and wrong. They'll put muscle on him or juice him up. Just eat more and train.
@@hha6076 Nonsense. I've been on test and still will never be Arnold. But I also will not be fat like him at 60.
the biggest question I have about Victor is being 7'5, how well will his body (KNEES) hold up? Look at most players at that height; most ended up with short careers due to injury/knee problems. But maybe he'll be an exception to that.
That is true, but since becoming a pro he's been doing lots of physical preparation to extend his career. Lots of stretching, exercises for toes, calves and knees. I really hope he succeed, in the little I watched of him he seems like a once in a lifetime player.
@@riccardo958 The other thing is he moves so differently. Most of them look like bricks, but he looks so fluid in everything he does
Poor knees are only a problem for tall heavy players. The skinny ones usually don’t have knee issues, they usually have feet issues.
@@Guyyyy2027 not necessarily. Ralph Sampson or Shawn Bradley both had knee problems. Both were hardly heavy for their heights.
@@Guyyyy2027 tell that to Kristaps Porzingis and Chet Holmgren
As much as we love this sport, its incredibly difficult to win championships. The bar that stars are held to is insane. You need to be great, your teammates to be great (which often doesn't make sense, how can you sign good players if the couple good ones are on max contracts), health, luck that other teams aren't loaded (Rockets and Harden could have one if they didn't meet KD Warriors, all his playoff chokes could have faded away with ome good run), good coaching etc. While a couple of different stars have managed to win recently, and Jokic might this year too, the league has typically been a series of dominant teams/ dynasties from rare or strange scenarios. (Golden State with Curry on the discount contract due to ankles, LeBron going back to Cleveland after they tanked, Lakers getting Pau giftwrapped after Shaq and Kobe, Spurs, Heat, 90s Bulls). I know I'm generalising but I can sum up the past 30 years just like that. It will be a miracle it Wemby wins one, just like it is for 99% of NBA players.
Well said - The numbers are certainly not on his side. Let's hope the Spurs can surround him with something special.
It's difficult to win because the #1 overall goes literally to the worst team. Which you can be stuck in a horrible, toxic franchise and a weak development team.
Jordan fan's and LeBron haters who became Jordan fans only cause they hste LeBron is to blame for these high expectations that you have to win multiple championships when in reality winning 1 is good enough. These are the best basketball players in the world it's gonna be hard asl to just win 1.
Yeah I hate when people bring up rings as a basis for player or coaching evaluation. You can be the best player or coach in the world and still lose. Organization has to be in alignment, your team has to capitalize, your team can't get cold on a bad day, roster has to be good, players need to play for each other, practice, schedule, injury luck, etc.
Even guys like jokic have other stars. Murray and porter are both really good underrated players. They also have good role players too. It’s hard for guys to win on their own.
Great video man. Very interesting and educational
This just proves Lebron's greatness even more. The guy has lived up to and EXCEEDED the expectations.
literally he’s 1 of 1
@@Christappedin 1 of 2* anthony bennett better
Yes, he’s the greatest flop of all time: ruclips.net/video/aeKHrZ53wb8/видео.html
But how will victor affect his legacy ?
Still aint MJ. Never will be.
The most terrifying thing I can imagine is : In 2 years, Luka can leave Dallas if the Mavs don't build around him, and the Spurs have the best shot of landing him. We can see, in 2 years time, a Luka + Wemby team just demolish the whole league, and the Spurs go back to their Dynasty.
How do the spurs have the best chance? They just have the most money.
Same comment from Kyrie and Luka.. same from Nash and Kobe.. same as Durant, Kyrie and Harden.. should I continue? Because we have alot of these dynasty porn
In 2 years LBJ KD Steph Harden Kyrie Jimmy Giannis + all the other superstars (young and older) still gonna be in the league so they definitely won't demolish the NBA.
Pls no I want the nba to stay even😭
Y'all already got so many rings. let us Mavs fans get some too. Why not Wemby to Mavs 😭
I am French and watch the french league regularly along with the Mets… and I think people are way overhyping him.
On many occasions he has been getting bullied and struggled in important games.
Of course most people only see the one amazing play he sometimes does Over and over on Facebook or Instagram and it skews everyone’s perspective .
For me he can be decent but honestly he is going to struggle for sure at the start.
Dude he won MVP, DPOY and best young player in french league for a reason not only for 1-2 good games
@@fahrurrizalfirmansyah1624 Because French Lg awards are a tried and true method of judging NBA talent.
@@BrooklynBalla He also leads on the score, rebound and block in that league
French bashing
It just best in blocking, points, rebounds
Your story crafting and presentation combined with Thinking basketball would be the greatest video ever made
Another banger of a video!
I hope he stays healthy
Right
too big...inhuman proportions...if he have a career like yao ming would be nice already...i'm not expecting much
@@vinipcplayerwhy are so many people hating? Like do you really think that you know more than the countless scouts who have been watching wemby since he was like 14 years old? We’re lucky enough to witness a generational talent and all you can talk about his chance of injury? Like wtf
@@eva.99 They're not hating. Haters would want Wemby to get injured. Also, injury is the biggest career ender for all athletes, so I think it's reasonable to worry.
@@vinipcplayer comparing 7'6 to 7'2.
Shaq is 7'1 who has MASSIVE body(his knees have to carry)has a LONG career.
Victor is 7'2 who is skinny.
Man I miss Duncan. Plays in the paint and enforces his will on defenders, doesn't let mismatches slip and seals hard on guards if they switch, effortless hook on the glass, has a deadly midrange jumper he can go to if you sag the paint, sets hard screens, doesn't flop, and one of the best passers and defenders as a big man. GSW has really changed the game. It was fun at first, but then it killed the natural big man as they were disposed quickly by the league to imitate small ball teams. Also add the fact that big men are not allowed to play physical anymore and NBA has basically rewarded smaller teams by favoring charging calls and moving screens. Now we have big men who dribble a lot, shoot step-back threes, scared to post-up, and flops a lot
Hasnt the MVP past 5years been Gianni's, Embiid and Jokic. AD just sent that same warriors team home.
I think big men are better now than ever before.
Except dominant big guys have won the last 5 MVPs
@@ueng928 The Bucks basically won a title with rebounding, defense and physicality. Are y'all watching the game or repeating the same narrative that old heads on TV been saying?
The only small ball team who dominate and won a title is the GSW and that because they have an all time talent in Steph Curry and Draymond is like a Rodman/Unseld version of undersized big man who can defend multiple posts.
Also the big men won the last 5 MVPs and in the last 5 playoffs the best player was a big man ( AD in 2020, Giannis in 2021 and in 2022 with Steph, and Jokic this year)
Also outside of GSW, every last winner of the last 6 year have good to dominant bigs: Siakam/Gasol in 2019, AD in 2020, Giannis/Brook in 2021, Green in 2022 because the GSW, and Jokic so far has been the best player of the playoffs ( before Buter) but Bam is the 2nd best player of the Heat tho.
I remember when jimmy was making vids about his failed sports career, now he’s killing it all his vids are hitting the 1m mark crazy
I feel like the 1st overall pick is lowkey a curse because there's overwhelming pressure for that team to take the best prospect. It kinda restricts their freedom of choice whereas other picks you can choose from a plethora of great players
What makes 4:46 interesting is that 3 of the players shown (Davis, Irving, Howard) won a championship with LeBron, while the other 2 (Bogut and Wiggins) won their championships with the Warriors dynasty
And Wiggins getting traded helped get Lebron and Kyrie on the same team lol.
6:52 Jimmy really tried to hide that(top right)
Hey Jimmy, firstly, I really love all the graphs supporting your narrative. However, I must point out that for comparisons it's much better to always start both axis from 0, otherwise you get a skewed perspective - I know breaking it up is there to highlight the difference, but just in terms of data visualization, it's much better to scale correctly in order to get a truthful perspective on data.
Keep up the good work! 😉
It’s videos like these that really put into perspective just how insanely competitive this league really is.
Chance of someone making the nba is essentially 0 as well, given they reach the athleticism req and is under 7’
Well of course take 10,000 people who live and breathe basketball for 15 years ofc there’s 1 bound to make the NBA. Statistically impossible, it’ll be one particular kid who’s just started playing
Extremely well done video, NBA fans (including me) and people in general need to stop getting carried away with the "hype" around a player and your video puts an emphasis on this really well through graphs, numbers and accurate comparisons...
NBA fans might unironically be the cause of a player not flourishing and living up to his true potential by putting such expectations on young players.., they are still humans at the end of the day...
This time, the hype is real
😂
@@droraharon Yea right. He’s not That a guy
the pressure makes diamonds, buddy, that's the beauty of the hype.. if a player can't handle it, he ain't the one..
Leading the French pro league in points boards and blocks while only having just turned 19 is no joke. Hope wemby can stay healthy because he is a potential all time great
Not one player in the French league was even drafted by NBA teams. He has played half the games he will have to play next year. He will have to play against incredibly skilled, much larger and quicker bigs, and guard them down low rather just roam around as he does now. He rarely gets a steal and if you watch him he normally jumps to pass and his three point shooting which was heralded as one of the best ever is now 5 for his last 36. Let’s see how he reacts to a different level. Ralph Sampson was very similar, incredibly hyped, taken first, a generational player and he was a fine pro but not an all-timer. Relax, and remember Chet will be joining the Thunder.
@@charlescohen6140what does Chet have to do with this
Yup... just like a pick up game in LA Fitness. 😂
Lol that's not true about NBA drafted players in the French league. There are previous NBA players in the French league like Jeremy Evans and Donatas Motiejunas.
It bothers me that he DIDN'T want to play in the EuroLeague and left for easier comp. There's no comparison in the competition between EuroLeague and where he's playing now.
I've been looking for you lol 😆 you're the first thing I usually put on when I get a new phone I couldn't find you I
Excellent video!!
jimmy always grounds me from the insanity on the internet. the absolute only social media figure that shares my opinions on just about everything basketball related. extremely rational and introspective thinker
It sounds like you use him as a yes man lol
@@jasonmelvin9102 is it unfair? ive never seen jimmy give a hot take without taking numbers into account, his work is crazy
@@pornhubmante its more so he presents bad arguments because going into detail rarely makes for a well paced youtube video, take for example him mentioning luka after he talks about how few players stay loyal and win multiple for their team, what he chose not to speak on was that only 3 of the 7 actually won any rings in their first 5 years and that said 3 had better teammates than we have seen luka with thus far in shaq and robinson.
you could also argue he cherry picks stats ie using the last 25 years of 1st overall picks, literally 1/3 of that sample isnt even 28 and there just so happens to be 2 great players picked in the 2 years preceding the sample at 1st overall (AI and Duncan)
i still enjoy the videos though
He cherry picks stats that support his argument, the Jokic/Embiid MVP video is a perfect example. That being said most of his opinions are logical/rational so they're not hard to back up.
Meatriding is crazy
He's already playing professionally in Europe. And the league there is intense. Especially the fans. He'll do fine as far as the pressure on him is concerned. If he fails to live up to the hype the expectations and the pressure won't be the reason.
Yeah, but he isn't playing the highest level. He's playing France's B league (second division) and not even playing Euroleague because he didn't want to go through the extra games it required. Luka Doncic was dominating Euroleague, the second best competition in the whole world at age 18. Now, just because he wasn't as tall they ignored this and the Hawks even traded down because they didn't value him. I don't know if Webanyama is ready for 82 games.
@@familygonzcartwright He plays at the highest tier in France.
@@familygonzcartwright Wembanyama led EuroLeague in blocks at 17-years-old in 21/22. He had one of his best league games this season (27 PTS/11 REB) against Monaco who reached the EuroLeague final four. He's been second in PPG in the World Cup Qualifiers. He's also playing in Pro A which is the first division in France. Not to mention he outplayed Chet Holmgren in the U19 World Cup final despite being a year younger and his dominance against G-League Ignite and Scoot Henderson earlier this past season.
Does he have the accolades Luka had? No but he's certainly proven himself against high-calibre European opposition and Luka benefitted from playing on a MUCH better team.
@@bobbyhill8951 exactly in France.
@@blairsantillana remember that other euro trash what's his couldn't compete against kids while playing with grown men
Nice video, man! 🇧🇷
Great video. The number one thing I worry about with Wembanyama is his ability to stay healthy. His tools are unbelievable, but his frame looks slight and vulnerable to injury. I hope like hell he stays healthy, but I kind of doubt it.
This is silly, Devonta Smith had the exact same concerns (playing in a more physical league), and he hasn't had any injury time so far
@@NickKrishnan You thought comparing a 6 ft guy playing a totally different sport was a good comparison? Wembanyama is 7'5" playing basketball, im not worried about his spine getting crushed by a linebacker, im worried about him tearing his achilles falling down after a layup or having recurring ankle/knee injuries. Super tall guys are always overhyped and rarely become dominant especially for more than a few years. Hard to tell, but I'm not super high on him
He needs to get on steroids tbh. It would be quicker and easier. Lebron style. Open secret. I think quite a few players do it
It's always a good day when Jimmy uploads
Legit tear will come out my eye when Lebron retires. Really lived up to the hype
Wemby will surpass lebron James in scoring when it's all set and done
@@VictorCharles-cb2gc lol
Im celebrating when Lebron retires. All he does is flop and cry. Then talk about social Justice issues he has 0 clue about.
@@jljohnston1615 judging from your video youre like 40 years old. find a hobby or something other than hating on someone who doesnt even know you exist lmfao
@@VictorCharles-cb2gc I screenshot this shit and expect a text in five years when dude retires and I’ll show you this lol
God Bless!!! Know that HE loves you so so much!!!!
Im from San Antonio and stopped watching basketball around 17-18 because of all the drama and weak Spurs seasons. Ill be honest, a lot of other personal stuff happened and I lost touch completely, so when I looked at Spur's current roster and realized I knew absolutely zero about our players I kind of was turned off. Victor has gotten me interested though, and combined with what seems a relatively young team Im getting excited for about 2-3 years from now. Im not expecting Victor to move mountains, but if the org can keep him here and healthy Im hoping he proves an integral piece of our team that can atleast make good showings in the playoffs (dont even need to win, just make a fighting effort). He is going to get bullied hard his first season though.
Sorry but you are not exactly a Spurs fan
@@hectormontesmendez1107 Never made the claim that I was a fan. At best Im a casual enjoyer of Basketball. Just giving another viewpoint from someone who isnt a fan.
Jimmy always with the high quality videos, thank you for them!
Jimmy’s video’s and editing style is amazing, his videos feel so well made!
Great video! Charles Barkley once said that it takes about 3-4 years to really know what type of player you're gonna be. I totally agree, a lot of these younger guys come in with a very thin frame and need the time to get bigger and stronger.
I'm excited for Wemby, I'm glad he's going to San Antonio because he's gonna get a chance to develop in an org that isn't desperate and a fan base that is loyal and seems patient. I hope he turns out to be great player for many years and that they can surround him with great players.
ESPN and all the other hot-take people are gonna gush over Bronny next year so we will will eventually forget how much hype Wemby had lol. Prepare yourselves for sports media to cover USC bball more than the Warriors potentially (except TNT). The Bronny hype is going to be biblical, that poor kid.
Damn Jimmy. Last video I saw of yours, you were at 500K. Now you at 2M?!?! Super happy for you
I saw Tim Duncan play as a Senior vs UR and knew even as a college player he was going to be good. My grandfather who took me to the game said “You are watching a future NBA great and Hall Of Famer”.
Well, that's not a great example, he had 50% "good or not good", so...
@@wasmagpie bro what
Victor can be a all time great I just hope to god he doesn’t get injured he just seems so frail
Same here he got a potential to be great
His height and weight are about what kareem was I think he will be fine
@@christophersanchez7845Kareem was 7’1 when he got drafted. Vic is almost 7’5
He’s only 19 he still ain’t in his grown man body.
@@christophersanchez7845 Wemby is atleast 3 inches taller
One of the things LeBron deserves a ton of credit for is being able to stay relatively healthy and not miss tons of time due to injuries.
This guy has it all in terms of his game but I'm really skeptical he can stay healthy with his body being what it is
VW has same work ethic as LBJ also taking care of body, Watch the video, Spurs recently stated he's playing the 4 not center even Duncan didn't want to play center.
I know Duncan was the new addition, but getting Robinson back after a missed season was also a huge factor in them going from 20 to 56 wins..
Yep, not to mention the Spurs won 59 games the year before with a healthy David Robinson. David Robinson's +34 wins turnaround in his rookie season is way more impressive in comparison.
One thing I can always hype about are Jimmy's videos. Simply amazing work and narrative portrayed in every single post
Dick riding is crazy
When jxmy drops you know it’s gonna be good
I think that this video will be getting an update for a Joker chapter in a few years. Great work!
Supreme video!!!
as man said, hopefully he'll keep his head out of the social media hype
even though social medias more prolific today than it ever has been, i think he'll keep his word and stay grounded
looking forward to whats to come
Great vlog man
Yea, like wall street, nba is about hype hype hype hype lol
It would have been interesting to see you break down the success factors not only for all 1st rounders, but for centers selected as #1 picks. I think W has an even tougher road without the larger frame it will take to match up with the legue’s dominant big men.
I don't even watch basketball, but your story telling is so unbelievably good that I can't wait to watch every video as soon as you make a new one. I have no doubt that if you made videos about any subject, they would be wildly entertaining.
These are good fast food content, but there are so many factors jimmy just doesn’t speak about because it would hurt the story he wants to tell. He doesn’t say false things, but he completely misconstrues things if the reality would hurt the fairy tail he wants to tell.
Also it feels like he‘s making an effort to be as close minded American as possible
@@LJMahomes this sounds interesting but I have not noticed much of that. Care to give a few examples? (besides Robinson-Duncan in this one)
thats jimmy for you ;)
@@LJMahomes Please, elaborate
@@dmtc6913 jokic embiid video
Man i’ve never been a fan that based it all on championships but you really did a great job of Illustrating how hard it is to win multiple
It's almost like basketball is a team game and 1 superstar isn't gonna save you. Great video btw, very informative!
I live in San Antonio and the spurs are my team I really really hope victor is what they say he is cause ever since Timmy left we ain’t been the same😔
You know it’s a good day when Jimmy post
The Spurs record increase after drafting Duncan was not only due to Duncan, but also that MVP caliber David Robinson was injured for the entire season prior(save 6 games). It was the combination that lead to the +36 win increase.
And they tanked.
Great content.
for somereason this video had changed my perspective on basketball. i now know that players mental health's goes down greatly which will down their game. for example jordan poole he was a hit but now with the dray fight thingy hes so bad. thank you
Winning a championship requires more than one player alone can provide. It requires an organizational commitment to building a team, and/or a lot of draft luck. So Wemby could be a generational talent but not get a ring.
And it should be mentioned Duncan’s first season coincided with Robinson coming back from his lost year. Kind of an unusual situation.
The Spurs are the best run franchise in the NBA and are in a state with low income tax. They can easily get people to surround Victor going forward.
@@bolt7047 Heres hoping. I’d love to see then back. They’ve been struggling putting together a contender, or even a playoff team. for a few years now.
spurs have one of the best defense in the league they will easily make the jump
Yes, But to win you definitely need one
Great take, as usual Jxmy! And also, on the opposing end of this high draft prospect-high expectations is a team like the Miami Heat, who in spite of all these odds and while having either many undrafted players or players drafted late, are making this great run towards the NBA Finals.
You graphs are fire. May I ask what program did you use to make them? Old subscriber.
Lovely stats analysis!
Kobe wasn't drafted by the Lakers (6:35) he was drafted by the Hornets and they traded Vlade Divac for him. The Hornets are likely still regretting that choice