Turbo Lamik 8HP TCU: Setting Up Internal Tq Calculation
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This is a topic i think a lot Turbo Lamik and even other transmission controllers users dont spend enough time setting up or even undertsand the importance of the tq figure.
Hopefully this is a useful guide that people can use themselves to help dial in thier setup.
If you are having shifting issues this tq calc is likely the cause.
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Watched the entire thing despite not owning a rotary or a 8hp, but the rotor sure sounds bloody good!!
Ahhhh good to see you in the comments sir! How’s your e92 going?
Thanks buddy, good to see you back on the tube! E92’s good, got some e46 adjustable camber tops working on there and I’m in the process of editing my video of my 4th drift night at QR and got monetized finally, expecting my first pay next month!
Something that helped me with the car stalling when coming to an idle, was the “minimum RPM value” setting. My car was idling at 1150 and Min rpm value set at 1050. It would stall everytime I’d come to a stop. Moved minimum RPM value up to 1300 and that finally kept the car from stalling when coming to a complete stop.
Can’t wait to fit a 8HP behind my 3rotor Mazda Cosmo. It came with a factory 4spd auto so I’m hoping to modernize it with this 8spd
That will be absolutely amazing.
It's nice Daniel put in that private track near the shop for testing.
Really great to see the Lamik system working out and doing what's needed. Rock on brother!
Thanks Andrew for putting this info out! You’re converting so many manual cars to the dark side! 😂
You bet!
8 speed swap the world! Would like to see some American Muscle swaps particularly corvettes
Can’t wait to get one of these 8hp’s into my turbo LS VH Commodore. But I think I’ll be bringing it to you for your magic tuning / setup touch 😎
Always said that the Ford 10 speed and 8HP transmissions are perfect for a low torque/high hp/narrow powerband engine like a rotary.
Love the informative content, glad you found where the upload button is again 😌
Hahaha
Welcome back, Andrew! Hard times down under, I read. Thanks for sharing guys. Have a good week, Dutch regards Nico.
Thanks man. And thanks for hanging around with the lack of vids.
Hey, it’s been long time dude, can’t wait to see N54 content
License is back. Parts are here. Just got to get it put back together now 😍.
That’s awesome to hear too!!
I’ve got a CANTCU CONTROLLING A DCT mated to a B58 in my e92 330d and this has given me insight into tuning my reported torque table. Obviously not exactly the same but from what I understand the principles are similar
Glad it helped.
Thank you so much! I've been waiting for this for the RX-7 8HP vid for so long 😁😁😁
This is mainly focues on the tq calc setup for the lamik or really any transmission controller. I will have a much more specific video on the RX7 once its all finished.
@@ZeroTo60Tube that's fine mate completely understand. will look forward to that too
Great to see another quality video full of very interesting information.
Well done mate 🍺
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for taking the time to make this especially with a rotary. Great content as usual. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Awesome vid mate! Thanks for showing us more intricately what is involved with setting these boxes up.
Hopefully it helps make a bit more sense of the setup side. There is so much that goes in to it.
@ZeroTo60Tube Do you guys only use Turbo Lamik? Any experience with CANTCU and or Maxxecu?
@@BoogalooShrymp I have used all 3 and we actually sell all of them as well.
Good video. All logical. Love the Rx7
Great vid , I am old school used to old transmissions where you physically have to wind pressure in via valve body , And I am vaguely familiar with the 8spd as their is one in my JEEP , however that tutorial was fantastic and the 8 speeds elimination of the need for a hi stall converter would be a dramatic improvement in how it drives , Subscribed 👍
Glad you enjoyed it.
Happy to see u after long back ❤
Thanks Andrew. Exactly what I needed to hear!
It’s very small part of understanding one of these swaps. But it’s something even the “experienced” engine tuners gloss over.
I see you finally got a New T Shirt! 🤣 Great to meet you and thank you for the shop tour and T Shirts! Say Hi to Bork and Dan for me. A great Video and very informative! Keep up the great content. 👌👍
Thanks man! How’s yours coming along?
@@ZeroTo60Tube coming along great mate! Just ordered some new Radials and gonna try them at the strip.
glad to see my last 2 years tuning my car on tuner pro will actually count for something 🤣
Will be a nice headstart compared to most using tuner pro.
Liked and subbed. Man making my dreams come true. Cant wait to 8hp swap my turbo 13b swapped rx5 😍dreamsss
Thanks for the sub!
No need to watch this but watched cause I wished you posted more 😂
haha, thank you sir
He’s back 🤗
Alright where can I get a cheap 8hp70 or 90? I want to do this with my bb mopar! Awesome videos and thanks for sharing this wealth of information. So much to learn!
I think the best place to get them was 2021 😭
@@ZeroTo60Tube 🤣spot on! One of these days I’ll get one. The main reason I had not yet is because I didn’t know how to make it work without a can bus system from the engine side. But thanks to your video’s I can do it now with the lamik controller! This is going to be awesome to do one of these days
He’s back. That handsome bearded man
What was your venmo again?
Very comprehensive
Lol there are like 10 things I have to work out before I can watch this video.
Great useful video also for lamik owners! Off top question, what is the selector trim/bracket are you using on e92? Is it from x1?
which e92? my e92 is DCT. not lamik
Awesome vid and info. I’m doing a -45 into a ‘99 Miata w a turbo, and am doing it without a TC. When you say you are regulating all the start and shifts w trans clutches do you have the TC locked? Thanks- again great info.
Glad it was helpful.
Would love to see a classic car getting an 8hp swap, perhaps something like a falcon with a Cleveland to see how the setup would go with a non drive by wire efi or carburetor.
That’s basically how we setup most of the diesels. They drive really nicely with the lamik. Just can’t do downshift blip.
Hi ! Happy to see this video ! If the car shift smooth in p1 mode but hard shift on p2 ? How to smooth that ?
Firstly ensure p1 is smooth at the rpm range p2 is using. If it is then change the time up and time down.
P2 is sports mode and should feel “sporty” by default. But you can change that in your program mode table.
Spend some time and learn what the table does. The manual explains it.
Interesting vid
welcome back andrew is the black e92 your next project? my barra powered e90 has an appointment with the engineer friday it's a handful to drive with the 3,91 diff i will be putting a 2,81 330d diff in it soon been a while in the making cheers glenn
Black e92 and black e60 coming up 😝
Another awsome vid bro
13b be less than half as rotary is aids. IMO its less than ideal for an 8hp, never going to be able to get on transbrake etc. Yeah i guess you can launch via clutches but the rpm that would be needed on a 13b will snap shiz for fun.
watch with how sharp you make the changes on the RX7. Its so short wheelbase a sharp shift will spit that bitch sideways haha. i love my 8hp in my FD but i had to be AWD because its fecking dangerous with decent power. Has the same wheelbase as a corsa B haha
We don’t all need awd to stay in a straight line 😝
@@ZeroTo60Tube haha that tells me its not making enough power :D
@@BEYTEK About half what your k24 peaked at, so yes you are correct. Still surprised me. Havent drive anything this light in a while. You're thing must have been mind bending.
Nice video mate, I’ve been doing what you said on the phone and reading the help section on the website to get an idea of the setup of the lamik. Also mate quick question with the torque settings. Would these be affected by a trailer weight? If it was a landcruiser and you did all the torque calcs for it on its base weight. Then you put 3.5 tonne behind it. Would that cause a problem with clutch take up on a fte? Or does weight not really affect these settings? Also do you need to make a whole new settings table on a different program when it is changed to low range? Because speed would change? Or does that not make any difference? Sorry might be a silly question. Still learning.
"ore wieght on a diesel vehicle will result in a higher tps for desired road speed, which will end up in the higher points of the tq calc map due to using the max tq tps table. The main thing to be aware of with a diesel is injector quantity changes. So if you do something to effect the injection quantity after setting up the tq calc, you will need to redo the calc. Adding weight will not normally cause any issues. With a petrol its timing changes. So if you do something that changes ignition timing you need to redo the tq calc setup
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What size trans cooler do you recommend?
Is the turbolamik compatible with the american version 8hp70 out of a challenger/charger/Ram?
Yes it is.
Don’t know where the strike thru came from
I notice on some of the shifts from 1st to 2nd there is a noise from the transmission, like a buzzing/grinding/whining.
Do you know what that is? I have had this noise since doing the conversion and cannot figure it out.
Its clutch engagement and normal. On cars with no sound deading or lighter cars it seems more noticeable. BMW wrapped the later model (2014 onwards) transmissions in a jacket to hide the noises, not to mention have a tonne of sound deading on the chassis. However do be warned they will make a similar noise in gear, when low on oil. The oil cavitation sound is similar. But what you hear in this video is clutches. Sounds like a cute version of the twin plate clutch in my evo.
Thanks for getting back to me. I did have a theory that it was lack of sound deadening and anti vibration mounts. It has been running for nearly a year now, done a few thousand miles and even a trip too and laps around the ring, so I thought it can't be anything major.
It does indeed make a similar sound when low on oil too, I found this out when doing the first full after conversion.
My next problem to solve is that I get a lot of whining when higher up in the rev range, sounds like oil pump or converter, but again, I am wondering if this is to do with lack of sound deadening also. There is a vid on my channel of my skyline on track where you can really hear it in the slower corners.
Здравствуйте, думаю по языку понятно что из России. Возник такой вопрос, возможно установить данный комплект при отсутвии в машине can шины? Хочется поставить в свой трак lq9 подняв мощность до ~400 лошадиных сил и соединить с коробкой 8hp70. Chevy Avalanch 2001 года выпуска
Google translate used for this. The TurboLamik can be setup to work as a standalone controller on a vehicle with no canbus.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thank you, this is very important information.
Any idea if a conversion "kit" will ever be looked at for replacing an sti gearbox? :) After seeing how well this works on cars - i'm curious
I don’t think so. Issue with the starter needing to be in the trans side and the size and shape of a 8hp converter. Also the lack of transaxle style 8hp. 8hp55 from Audi may work. But the converter and starter issue is unresolved.
@@ZeroTo60Tube 8HP transaxles up to 90's are available on Audi's I think ? I know a guy years ago who put an Audi 01E box into one in Scotland.
How do the 8hp handle revving higher than 7.5k? I remember talking with Łukasz lamik in Poland during drag racing season and he didn't recommend revving it higher than that
The clutches and converter seem happy at 9000rpm.
However tail shaft balance is very important. Especially if you have a heavy aftermarket single piece shaft.
Hi i have a question.
Is there any difference between GA8hp and ZF8hp?
I personally always identify a transmission by the engine it was connected to. In my opinion nothing else matters. For example N57 8hp70. N47 8hp45, b58 8hp50.
Thanks now i know what to search for.
Is using the clutches for take up instead of the converter going to have a negative effect on said clutches ?
It shouldn’t but you loose the benefits of the converter. Which means you can’t brake boost for too long as it’s slipping the clutches.
The latest BMWs do this. Well they deactivate the clutches a lot to completely remove load on the engine. I assume for fuel economy. But with that programming you have a converter when you need it.
This feature in my opinion needs to be used with caution. I wouldn’t set a customer car up like this without a properly session with them, so they know what’s going on.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Makes sense. My thought process was that the clutches aren't forseen for such loads as taking off, as that's the converters job, but I guess I was wrong. You learn something new every day.
Take up is pretty gentle on the clutches for most applications (normal use). Especially light weight cars like this. Shifting at speed puts them to work. However it is a fair concern. You can let the converter slip for a few minutes, it will get warm but won’t wear anything. You can’t do that with the clutches.
I do plan to play with launching on the clutches in this car. See what we can get it to do.
Presumably all the converters for the OEM are very tight ? As most of them will idle around 6-800rpm ? I'd think a looser converter would be a huge improvement for most tuned cars ?
I wouldn’t suggest it. I cooked the clutches in my gearbox, the first time I tried to stall it up on the brake. Unknowingly that setting was turned on in the lamik to stop the car stalling when selecting drive.
This should be easy....
Rotary Torque Value = 0 @0 to 10,000,000rpm 😂
Not that simple? lol
Feckin car is beautiful tho, damn
Haha that’s how it feels until about 5000rpm…