I’m the builder at Pure Drivetrain Solutions, built around 500+ 8hp trans here in the states, our a90 program is going strong with the 8hp51 holding well over 1000 hp! I’m glad to see the cult following zf has in Australia, I wish the shipping wasn’t so tough price wise. Build kits coming soon for international guys!
When you guys gonna finish the Trans for the Stinger/G70 I’m tired of being ran in circles 😂. I got a fast turbo upgrade car and gotta keep it turned down cause no trans.
We just ran a stage 2 from you guys this weekend on my client's F92. Worked amazingly well and before long we hope to need a stage 3 from y'all. If you have a contact that can help me look up the serial on the trans, I want to verify it actually has the converter we're told it does because of trust issues with the installer we used.
Sorry for the late reply, wish RUclips would notify me of replies. Stock vs stock the 70 is a great option over the small frame offerings 45,50,51 etc, especially with the aftermarket tuning solutions that are available. Only major issue we’ve found is E hub failure, which is why we have our billet hub for small medium and large frame 8hp
Don’t hate the builder! I know we got them in and tore into them, unfortunately our build would have to be completely proprietary even down to frictions and steels, and I’m not sure the market is big even for the endeavor
Hey can you shoot me some info. I’m tryin to do the 8speed swap in my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee overland. Just grabbed a 392 srt 8speed out of a 2018 scat pac rwd
Very nice informative video. We did our first HP90 swap in 2019 into a 2012 Challenger. Last night just finished a HP90 into a 2006 Chrysler. These transmissions are very nice.
I’ve just ordered my 2wd 8hp70 N57. Going into a 2004 IS300 with 630hp but can now turn it up to 800hp once the 8hp is installed and running in the future.
I'm just starting my journey of research on these boxes. My end goal is an M60B40 & 8HPxx in an E34 Touring. It's not going racing, it's a daily driver that might hit the Autobahn every now and again. So I'm not expecting much more than 450Nm.
Nice video, I think the trans would be great in a older land cruiser or patrol where a 4 speed is used, the extra ratios would help the under powered petrol motors, you probably could keep the factory diff ratios when changing up to a bigger tyre and depending on diff ratio ect you could maybe have a 1st gear in low range that will just crawl.
I'm here watching this video because I'm interested in mating this to my OM606 that's sitting in my 1987 Toyota 4runner overland build (I'm American, the cooler stuff costs way more).
Brilliant & informative. I have an old Rover SD1 restoration that had no engine or (auto) box so have been thinking of alternatives to the GM180 originally fitted. It's going to have a standard, initially, 3.9V8 fitted (I have one lying around 😀 ) and think the basic(ish) version of the 8HP will make such a difference to the drive (and economy!!). Thanks for this
And here's me who put a 4L85 with aftermarket control behind a LS3 for a circuit car which ended up with no engine braking at all. Great in a straight line but rubbish on the over run. First time here, brilliant.
The lack of converter control on prevois gen autos does suck. But mega on these, and with a controller like the Lamik you can do some cool stuff. You can even replace the converter with a DMF and still drive the car.
Im getting close to doing a 8hp70 or 75 swap in my Ram 2500 Hemi truck. The 66rfe is a junk trans just like its big brother 68rfe. Yeah i could build it like i did a 68rfe a few years ago when i had a cummins but it is almost the same cost wise as doing the swap.
You answered so many questions for me when I put my 8hp45 into my E82 135i, huge respect for everything you have to say! Currently running 370 ft lbs of torque @ 18 psi and turning the boost up, will let you know how much it can take before I swap out the 8hp45 for the 8hp70
The guys from Seems Legit Garage put a 45 in their 135 track car that apparently makes almost 700hp and as far as I know it's been handling that?? I'm using a 45 behind my N54 powered drift Nissan that will be finished soon & the goal for that car is approx 600hp... I'm pretty confident it's gonna be fine
@@truecapacityfitness1611 also keen to hear how it goes. Im not so confident..... but fingers cross. With some torque reduction it should be fine regardless
i found you when i got an idea of 8hp swapping my 06 audi a4 3.0tdiq.. i have a 6hp in there now but there seems to be nobody who done it yet. i have enough power in it now that the trans is a limiting factor and the 8hp would be a sick option to push the car further.
I'd love this type of transmission in my r33 gtst. Figure it would be easier to do since it's rwd and can keep the car spooling while also getting a bit better mileage.
Man it makes the cars feel like they have more power as well. The rpm drop on a shift is like 700-800rpm. Definitely helps keep them in the peak power range.
@ZeroTo60Tube any hints on getting it fitted? My r33 finally arrived and I've been restoring it since it's arrived. But I guess I need to figure out which ecu and transmission controller I need to get one to work 😅
So 51 software was a mess I went to a 45 trans so I could run my car! There is a supra running the lamik with 51 but they told me it’s still experimental firmware! Lamik told me I can use a 50 mechatronics on the 51 but I have not verified this yet!
Awesome information 👏 I can't wait to put 8hp90 in my sprinter. The 5g-tronic can't stand the power a make pulling a trailer. I've seen a kit to swap to n54-8zf but nothing to keep my 3.0 in place yet.
If you find an adapter please let me know about it. That would be such a good trans for the van. I was talking to a guy with the iveco factory 8 speed an he loved it, compared to his sprinter
My dad and are I doing a modified hellcat redeye in a 70 challenger and the biggest problem with the 8HP90 is the physical size. From measurements we could get online we would have to redo the floor so significantly that the seats would be out on the door sills and there would likely be no backseat or the transmission would have to be mounted below the car considerably. No one seems to think the 8HP75 can reliably take 1000hp (including dodge). I learned a lot from your video and would consider the smaller units in future, lower power swaps.
Ok gents thank you for this amazing video! One part of the video cleared up a issue which is "Do I need an ECU with a programmable CANBUS for these boxes?" And with the other controllers available using a haltech it wasn't going to work but as you said in the video the LAMIK replaces the factory controller. This means I can 100% go with haltech with no worry? ;)
So glad I found this. I've started looking into changing my trans out & found the 8 speed (to 350 Vortec) & to maybe LS3 as a repower at a later date if that would be possible. Yes, 4wd. Cost might keep me out atm but I'm certainly interested. I'd honestly I'd prefer to do the LS swap at the same time though.
i second this. the little 5 speed is getting old and with how much i towing i do these days its starting to struggle and a lower RPM at cruse will help a lot with fuel economy.
Hey! Can you make a video about pairing the Lamik TCU with different ECUs, like Link and ECUmaster? You have covered it shortly with Haltec ECU, but it's a bit too pricey, and most of affordable BMW-platform drift cars are actually controlled by ECUmaster Black, at least in my region. I think it's also important to generally cover the topic of programming in more details to boost skills of the beginners who think that an 8HP swap in way too complex.
Yeah, i think i will wait to try cantcu until they have thier version of the 8hp maps. xHP just seems like a lot of money for something that is lacking compared to lamik trans tune.
When are you free to pop up on a Saturday....... also im hoping for a decent upgrade on the software in the next 2-3 weeks. Yours is all current apart from the clutch pedal control and clutched launch control which was the main thing on the latest update.
Very good video mate, question for you- Do you know if anyone does an adaptor for Ford Cleveland. Considering a 8HP 70 or 75 behind a 351 in an XY if i can get hold of parts needed.
So I wish someone would try that 2013 X3 8HP45 with single PT CAN without a controller, that model is like a hybrid E/F chassis. Then you could have 3 levels. Super cheap swap, medium swap with CANTCU, and then big dog Lamik for the drifters.
Hello everyone. Since this is now at Workshop with some decent ability to fabricate. Would you consider doing a BMW X5 and possibly others. Lift kit spacers. Not complicated to fabricate. With enough demand from BMW owners. Could be good simple product to offer.
Funnily enough we have been talking about it. However making them for less than the ECS or it being worth while for doing it beat the current options is a different matter.
Hi there, Love the videos. Can you please tell me which model BMW I should look for to buy the 8hp from to put into an M2. I want to replace my DCT. Cheers
I'm not one to normally comment. But you have just blown my mind. I've had plans for my buisness but have been stuck on a couple of things. You have just opened everything up. How do I get in touch?
Ight so gonna need a favor from y’all. I’m tired of my tundra losing to these f150 with the 10spd. Make a kit for the 3ur-fe 😂😂 I’ll boost the truck after
Hey there. Awesome videos. Keep it up. I drive a BMW M3 E46 SMG. Will a ZF HP8 fit in my car? What type HP8. Do I need an adpter plate? Will the stock TCU work or do I need an alternative TCU. The car is bone stock. No looking to make more power.
I have been thinking about something different for my xb coupe with a bigblock 460 stroked to 545 , has the usual c6 box , having an 8hp box in my bmw 650i the idea of having that box behind an oldschool.torque monster is pretty appealing - i gather there are no off the shelf adaptors to a 460 ? 😅
Thank you so much for this vid mate! I found you through the 8HP swaps you are doing for the 79 series. But i want one for my FD RX-7 haha A while ago you said your FD was in the works.. is this still the case? Thank you very much :)
one thing you didn't say is can it be stand alone or does it need any link to an engine? I've been toying with the idea of putting one behind my 1HZ but its a completely mechanical engine it has no way to talk to a computer.
Its standalone, but it needs certain parameter from the engine in order to know what sort of torque the engine is putting in to the transmission at all times.
You guys done any LS VE commodores with larger cam profiles? Was pretty hesitant to upgrade to the typical T400 auto Bogan pack, this looks very promising.
I'm thinking of do a m57 swap with a 8hp in my gu patrol. I feel it would be amazing with the standard bmw shifter just need to find a adapter kit to suit
www.8speed.au/products/8hp-skyline-gtr-kit The base kit for the GTRs is here. However, we can also supply for extra the pre made drive shafts, so the entire thing is bolt in.
Hi.I will swap 8HP50 in my S14 with SR20det. I have MS and I need to keep the Silvia more easy to drive for me. I have to convert the car to my needs Which controller and transmission options are the best for me. I run Nistune ecu. Can you help me please. Regards Guido
Wow I got many questions 😁 What is fastest trans brake(breake boosted) launch or locked trans/TQ launch? I have zf 6hp28a61 now is it posible to change to 8hp? In the future I'm going for 1000hp. But starting with 700hp 900nm trying to find map for ecu and tcu with tuning tool. I have my12 Bentley CGT my14> use PDK. What is pros and cons for PDK and zf8hp? How much nm can I allow on tcu as max in my current 6hp28a61?
Unfortunately i have no idea. They were not sold down here. That said most 90s models cars have room for a 8hp. They are very similar in size to a TR6060.
Yes, we actually have the s85 to 8hp adapter on the shelf. My concern is, the 8hp being so refined, may take away some of the s85 experience. I am about to start a series on S85 to DCT. However we have 2 s85 cars in the shop, so the later may get the 8hp.
@@ZeroTo60Tube cool look forward too seeing the episode. yeah love the SMG shifts at full noise but a pain while cruising. should be a huge market in Europe for the conversion and probably cheaper than a OEM replacement including the hydraulics.
So where I am lost at is which platform can I pull a 8hp70 out of. It seem like it’s cheaper in the states to find one out of a dodge however are they all same spec and dimension wise as the BMW’s I’m looking to put in a E90 with a 2jz swap.
As i mention in the video you need to find out what adapter plates are available for your engine, the adapter plate will determine which trans to go for. However, 2jz will be a 8hp70/75 from a rear wheel drive n57 or b57 powered BMW.
I’ve got a 4.6is and I’ve seen the m62 adaptor kits for the zf8. And they confirmed it could retain AWD. Do you think it’s doable!!? Can’t find any success stories on AWD m62 zf8 swaps, but it seems possible, in theory 🤔😈
Excellent video! I enjoyed the explanations. One thing I have heard about the 8HP transmissions is their RPM limit. If I were to put one behind a high revving K24 what could I expect to be able to rev to? What have you seen others spin these transmissions up to without having issues? Thanks!
@@ZeroTo60Tube Do you know if that was an 8HP70 or 8HP50? I have heard some thoughts that the 50 with the smaller internals may be able to handle higher rpms a bit easier.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Also Thank you for the reply. You guys are putting out the best content on the 8HP stuff out of everyone I can find on youtube! Keep it up and I enjoy every video!
@@UltraMiata Its a 70/75. The reduced friction area on the 50 would mean it wont hold the power and rpms like a 70/75. It will just be easier for the engine to spin it. After playing with both the small and large versions of the 8hps. The 45/50 really make no sense to me. They will not take the abuse of a 70/75 they are not compareable.
How well do you think these thing do it a Road race/track car application. Does it do fast shift in ANY rpm, are there anything one should be worried about in such a application using a 8HP?
well done andrew even a learned friend like me knew what you were talking about.😁 cant wait for more content on another note can you tell me what the bolt spacing on a e90 guibo flex joint is. hoping its the same size as the barra 6hp26p one for my e90 conversion the barra one is 95mm between bolt holes any help appreciated cheers glenn
I can’t get to one at work easy. But I reckon I ran in to this issue previously. I think it was the output flange on the 8hp45 wouldn’t match the n54. But I can’t remember sizing….. hmmmm
I was considering a 4l80 swap behind my turbo 1FZ but now I’m intrigued by the 8hp. Any plans to adapt to the 1FZ in the future? I haven’t seen any adaptor kits.
thank you for this cool video, ı am thinking to put zf 8hp 45 to my e36 318is so ı want to make sure, can ı use original tcu of zf8 transmission, i m gonna keep engine stock as its my daily, thank you
Hi bud, I love the channel. It's so helpful. I'm in the uk. I have a mk4 supra manual 6 speed box runing 1530bhp with 1150fl and I want to do the zf 8hp box could you recommend me 70 or the 75 box boys in the uk has already it been done 70 and it fits the tunnel in the supra thanks keep up the good work
Thanks for the reply back bud I will definitely have the 8hp 70 built for the power but I'm not sure weather with the build box would hold up with the power or is my better option to go for a holinger 6 speed squential as I know the 8hp is all round better for me comfort power and for the smoothness and can be used as a daily with your experience and knowledge with a build 8hp do you think it would hold the power or for me to go holinger many thanks 😊
Thank you for the video, I'm happy that 8hp adoption is so high. I've been looking into doing 8hp swap into various cars I have. Was going to do a 8hp into my 335d (maybe stock, maybe tuned to stage 1), happy to see that it will work, just needs few tweaks. Would you recommend cantcu vs lamik controller in this case? No race track, no drag, just trying to improve daily driving. Also was pondering a swap into my 98 MB E300 (OM606), and while adapter plates exist for this combination, I'm unsure if the diesel OM606 makes enough power to actually take advantage of it. The M57 in my 335d starts to make 300+ ft/lb torque at only 1400rpm (if I'm reading the map correctly) and goes up to 500+ at 2000 rpm. The OM606 in my old E300 by constrast makes peak torque (240ft/lb) starting at 1600 all the way to 4500 rpm. Would you say that this would be a worthwhile upgrade for a DD vehicle? The old 722.6 is getting sluggish and tired....
So... what are whp losses with an 8HP vs DCT vs manual transmission? I was told the 8HP reduced WHP by ~40HP on a dyno when compared with S54 engine and manual transmission. But when you look at factory installed 0 to 60 times ie M240i etc. the 0 to 60 times are close...
Could you tell us more about the differences between the 45 [1st Gen), 50 (2nd Gen), 51 (3rd Gen) and the 8HP55? Is the 55 even RWD? How many different Bell Housing patterns did BMW use? Is it possible to find a large Bell housing (suitable for a V8) with the narrow diameter case (45/50/51 … 55?) in RWD form? This sounds like madness but I’am trying to fit an 8HP where a three speed TF 727 used to reside and space is a premium.
really informative video! i was wondering where you guys are sourcing your transmissions from, specifically 8hp70's, ive been calling wreckers across AUS and no one has one from an n57 car, mainly as the number of f seried i6 diesels are allready so low. even a friend of mine who works at a wrecker couldnt source something for me anywhere in vic. any advice or leads would be a huge help as my 6hp is on its way out haha
Wow this is bloody insane! I'm building a Barra patrol and will be looking at throwing one of these in it for sure! I had a bf xr6 turbo with the zf 6 speed and loved banging gears in that. Brilliant gearboxes. I wonder if you could chuck one of these in the N80 Hilux? Mine's an auto and I hate that it's constantly reving up on it's own going down hills and will never stay in 6th gear on the highway constantly chopping and changing it's a known problem with these Hilux's.
Could definitely use them in both applications. We have the barra to 8hp adapater kits on the way from domiworks and i know there are ZF to patrol transfer case adapters out there.
Can't tell you how much I appreciate this mate. You've provided more information in this 20 minute video than Dawid has provided in the last two years
I can't tell you how much I've been waiting for aftermarket zf trans tcu
Great post, was look for info on installing in a 2jzgte vvti SC 300 600 WHP. Which transmission to use for the car.
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@@reginaldmorton2162I’m pretty sure there’s people running setups with the cantcu
I’m the builder at Pure Drivetrain Solutions, built around 500+ 8hp trans here in the states, our a90 program is going strong with the 8hp51 holding well over 1000 hp! I’m glad to see the cult following zf has in Australia, I wish the shipping wasn’t so tough price wise. Build kits coming soon for international guys!
What is your opinion on the power handling of the 8hp70 in stock form?
When you guys gonna finish the Trans for the Stinger/G70 I’m tired of being ran in circles 😂. I got a fast turbo upgrade car and gotta keep it turned down cause no trans.
We just ran a stage 2 from you guys this weekend on my client's F92. Worked amazingly well and before long we hope to need a stage 3 from y'all.
If you have a contact that can help me look up the serial on the trans, I want to verify it actually has the converter we're told it does because of trust issues with the installer we used.
Sorry for the late reply, wish RUclips would notify me of replies. Stock vs stock the 70 is a great option over the small frame offerings 45,50,51 etc, especially with the aftermarket tuning solutions that are available. Only major issue we’ve found is E hub failure, which is why we have our billet hub for small medium and large frame 8hp
Don’t hate the builder! I know we got them in and tore into them, unfortunately our build would have to be completely proprietary even down to frictions and steels, and I’m not sure the market is big even for the endeavor
Thank you so much for these videos. Currently putting an 8hp45 mated to 5.7l hemi inside of a E92.
That is awesome!
Hey can you shoot me some info. I’m tryin to do the 8speed swap in my 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee overland. Just grabbed a 392 srt 8speed out of a 2018 scat pac rwd
Very nice informative video. We did our first HP90 swap in 2019 into a 2012 Challenger. Last night just finished a HP90 into a 2006 Chrysler. These transmissions are very nice.
That is awesome!
I’ve just ordered my 2wd 8hp70 N57. Going into a 2004 IS300 with 630hp but can now turn it up to 800hp once the 8hp is installed and running in the future.
I don’t think I’ve ever had a conversation with myself for that long! Haha Good work!!
Haha. Starting to feel a little crazy over here!
@@ZeroTo60Tube you did a very good job and you didn't even go over the same subject more than once and was really interesting ,
Yeah I agree with JC, no need to feel crazy, you were talking to all of us at once! That’s skill haha!
I'm just starting my journey of research on these boxes. My end goal is an M60B40 & 8HPxx in an E34 Touring. It's not going racing, it's a daily driver that might hit the Autobahn every now and again. So I'm not expecting much more than 450Nm.
Cool! I’m looking to swap my e39 540 touring
Nice video, I think the trans would be great in a older land cruiser or patrol where a 4 speed is used, the extra ratios would help the under powered petrol motors, you probably could keep the factory diff ratios when changing up to a bigger tyre and depending on diff ratio ect you could maybe have a 1st gear in low range that will just crawl.
I'm here watching this video because I'm interested in mating this to my OM606 that's sitting in my 1987 Toyota 4runner overland build (I'm American, the cooler stuff costs way more).
Brilliant & informative. I have an old Rover SD1 restoration that had no engine or (auto) box so have been thinking of alternatives to the GM180 originally fitted. It's going to have a standard, initially, 3.9V8 fitted (I have one lying around 😀 ) and think the basic(ish) version of the 8HP will make such a difference to the drive (and economy!!). Thanks for this
And here's me who put a 4L85 with aftermarket control behind a LS3 for a circuit car which ended up with no engine braking at all. Great in a straight line but rubbish on the over run. First time here, brilliant.
The lack of converter control on prevois gen autos does suck. But mega on these, and with a controller like the Lamik you can do some cool stuff. You can even replace the converter with a DMF and still drive the car.
Im getting close to doing a 8hp70 or 75 swap in my Ram 2500 Hemi truck. The 66rfe is a junk trans just like its big brother 68rfe. Yeah i could build it like i did a 68rfe a few years ago when i had a cummins but it is almost the same cost wise as doing the swap.
You answered so many questions for me when I put my 8hp45 into my E82 135i, huge respect for everything you have to say! Currently running 370 ft lbs of torque @ 18 psi and turning the boost up, will let you know how much it can take before I swap out the 8hp45 for the 8hp70
Thanks for the kind words man!
Given the kind of power people are putting through the standard 6HP with XHP, I think it's fair to assume that the 8HP45 will do the same.
The guys from Seems Legit Garage put a 45 in their 135 track car that apparently makes almost 700hp and as far as I know it's been handling that??
I'm using a 45 behind my N54 powered drift Nissan that will be finished soon & the goal for that car is approx 600hp... I'm pretty confident it's gonna be fine
We’ve maxed out my stock fueling system so will be getting the car on the dyno in the next week or so to get power / torque figures.
@@truecapacityfitness1611 also keen to hear how it goes. Im not so confident..... but fingers cross. With some torque reduction it should be fine regardless
i found you when i got an idea of 8hp swapping my 06 audi a4 3.0tdiq.. i have a 6hp in there now but there seems to be nobody who done it yet. i have enough power in it now that the trans is a limiting factor and the 8hp would be a sick option to push the car further.
This is my favorite transmission so far! No Lamik yet just XHP Stg3
I bought one that was slipping through gears, I swapped out the valve body , fluid & filter & it was like new again
Well im glad you got it fixed. Thats awesome.
This was an insane info dump. It would have taken a long time to gather and learn all this info from different sources. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and super informative. Really want to put an 8hp70 into my turbo e46 m3. Gotta find someone who makes an adapter kit.
I'd love this type of transmission in my r33 gtst. Figure it would be easier to do since it's rwd and can keep the car spooling while also getting a bit better mileage.
Man it makes the cars feel like they have more power as well. The rpm drop on a shift is like 700-800rpm. Definitely helps keep them in the peak power range.
@ZeroTo60Tube any hints on getting it fitted? My r33 finally arrived and I've been restoring it since it's arrived. But I guess I need to figure out which ecu and transmission controller I need to get one to work 😅
Such a cool transmission. Thanks for the info and the kit / install options
I'm gonna keep the comment short and simple but what you are doing is absolutely awesome, nuff said
I appreciate that!
that was a brilliant introduction to the 8spd, great presentation!
Thanks for watching
I am finishing up my 8hp51 install now! 535i in the USA will update you when I hit the track next weekend! Definitely about that lamik life!
How did it go
Any update?
So 51 software was a mess I went to a 45 trans so I could run my car! There is a supra running the lamik with 51 but they told me it’s still experimental firmware! Lamik told me I can use a 50 mechatronics on the 51 but I have not verified this yet!
Great educational post! CANTCU user & Re-seller here, can’t recommend enough! Even in high torque applications 💪✅
Right on!
Awesome information 👏
I can't wait to put 8hp90 in my sprinter. The 5g-tronic can't stand the power a make pulling a trailer.
I've seen a kit to swap to n54-8zf but nothing to keep my 3.0 in place yet.
If you find an adapter please let me know about it. That would be such a good trans for the van. I was talking to a guy with the iveco factory 8 speed an he loved it, compared to his sprinter
My dad and are I doing a modified hellcat redeye in a 70 challenger and the biggest problem with the 8HP90 is the physical size. From measurements we could get online we would have to redo the floor so significantly that the seats would be out on the door sills and there would likely be no backseat or the transmission would have to be mounted below the car considerably. No one seems to think the 8HP75 can reliably take 1000hp (including dodge). I learned a lot from your video and would consider the smaller units in future, lower power swaps.
Check the Holley swap kits. They have a k-frame and crossmember that is supposed to be able to support the 3rd gen hemi w/o cutting the firewall/floor
Ok gents thank you for this amazing video! One part of the video cleared up a issue which is "Do I need an ECU with a programmable CANBUS for these boxes?" And with the other controllers available using a haltech it wasn't going to work but as you said in the video the LAMIK replaces the factory controller. This means I can 100% go with haltech with no worry? ;)
If you check out our e46 8hp build series, that car is running a haltech. You do need a Haltech that supports canbus.
Nice I wanted a smoll 8HP in my E90 320si so can't wait to see you do it
Coming soon!
So glad I found this. I've started looking into changing my trans out & found the 8 speed (to 350 Vortec) & to maybe LS3 as a repower at a later date if that would be possible. Yes, 4wd. Cost might keep me out atm but I'm certainly interested. I'd honestly I'd prefer to do the LS swap at the same time though.
I would love to see an adapter for an 1hdfte
i second this. the little 5 speed is getting old and with how much i towing i do these days its starting to struggle and a lower RPM at cruse will help a lot with fuel economy.
I'm so thankful for people like you, great video and great explanation. Greetings from Croatia!
Thank you very much!
Excellent information. And delivered in rapid form.
Glad it was helpful!
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Good know!
Very interesting. I wonder how well this would do in my s13 2jz swap. Would love to have other options other than just the a340e trans.
Who knew transmissions could be so cool
I’ve been tossing the idea to 8hp75 swap my 2023 Nissan Z 🤓
Hey! Can you make a video about pairing the Lamik TCU with different ECUs, like Link and ECUmaster? You have covered it shortly with Haltec ECU, but it's a bit too pricey, and most of affordable BMW-platform drift cars are actually controlled by ECUmaster Black, at least in my region. I think it's also important to generally cover the topic of programming in more details to boost skills of the beginners who think that an 8HP swap in way too complex.
Please use a cantcu for your diesel 1 series daily we would all like to see the difference of install then also a xhp tune on them
Yeah, i think i will wait to try cantcu until they have thier version of the 8hp maps. xHP just seems like a lot of money for something that is lacking compared to lamik trans tune.
We need a follow up on the 135 mate , 5000klm of 8HP driving on track and street with Lamik Controller ... still on first revision of software
When are you free to pop up on a Saturday....... also im hoping for a decent upgrade on the software in the next 2-3 weeks. Yours is all current apart from the clutch pedal control and clutched launch control which was the main thing on the latest update.
Very good video mate, question for you- Do you know if anyone does an adaptor for Ford Cleveland. Considering a 8HP 70 or 75 behind a 351 in an XY if i can get hold of parts needed.
Wanna swap one into my c32, it’s only 400bhp so the smaller box would be ideal as I just want more gears and a much faster shift.
Now this has me wanting an 8hp70 in my turbo E46 build.
So I wish someone would try that 2013 X3 8HP45 with single PT CAN without a controller, that model is like a hybrid E/F chassis. Then you could have 3 levels. Super cheap swap, medium swap with CANTCU, and then big dog Lamik for the drifters.
Didn't Andrew try that already?
This is the video I am thinking of:
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Thnak you for this video! Answered a lot of my questions and concerns.
Hello everyone. Since this is now at Workshop with some decent ability to fabricate. Would you consider doing a BMW X5 and possibly others. Lift kit spacers. Not complicated to fabricate. With enough demand from BMW owners. Could be good simple product to offer.
Funnily enough we have been talking about it. However making them for less than the ECS or it being worth while for doing it beat the current options is a different matter.
Hi there,
Love the videos.
Can you please tell me which model BMW I should look for to buy the 8hp from to put into an M2.
I want to replace my DCT.
Cheers
N57 8hp70 rwd
I'm not one to normally comment. But you have just blown my mind.
I've had plans for my buisness but have been stuck on a couple of things. You have just opened everything up.
How do I get in touch?
Thanks for this explanation, Andrew. Great job. Have a great week, regards Nico.
My pleasure!
Great information mate but if we r not running crazy hp numbers is it possible to tune the stock 8hp tcu without needing for lamik I have e46 330
Ight so gonna need a favor from y’all. I’m tired of my tundra losing to these f150 with the 10spd. Make a kit for the 3ur-fe 😂😂 I’ll boost the truck after
It’s very interesting what engine speed a car with 8hp70 will hold at a speed of 200 km/h. e60 535 n54 with rear gearbox from m5 e60
Awesome info and great video bro !!! 8HP the world :)
You know it!
This in a barra patrol would be awesome
Imagine a transbrake start........
Awesome video I’m thinking of getting this setup too.
I have a vr statesman lol you can fit one in 355 with boost
So basically I can swap a nag1 2012 srt8 jeep to 8hp90 or even the 8hp70?
Hey there. Awesome videos. Keep it up. I drive a BMW M3 E46 SMG. Will a ZF HP8 fit in my car? What type HP8. Do I need an adpter plate? Will the stock TCU work or do I need an alternative TCU. The car is bone stock. No looking to make more power.
soo which one is best for silvia without hacking up the tunnel as much as possilbe ? for sr20 engine . Thanks mate very helpful
Would love to see the 8hp in a e39 540i or m5
Same
Brilliant video. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I have been thinking about something different for my xb coupe with a bigblock 460 stroked to 545 , has the usual c6 box , having an 8hp box in my bmw 650i the idea of having that box behind an oldschool.torque monster is pretty appealing - i gather there are no off the shelf adaptors to a 460 ? 😅
Thank you so much for this vid mate!
I found you through the 8HP swaps you are doing for the 79 series. But i want one for my FD RX-7 haha
A while ago you said your FD was in the works.. is this still the case? Thank you very much :)
Yes, we have had one booked in at the shop for a couple of months now, just havent had a chance to get a start on it yet.
one thing you didn't say is can it be stand alone or does it need any link to an engine? I've been toying with the idea of putting one behind my 1HZ but its a completely mechanical engine it has no way to talk to a computer.
Its standalone, but it needs certain parameter from the engine in order to know what sort of torque the engine is putting in to the transmission at all times.
You guys done any LS VE commodores with larger cam profiles? Was pretty hesitant to upgrade to the typical T400 auto Bogan pack, this looks very promising.
I'm thinking of do a m57 swap with a 8hp in my gu patrol. I feel it would be amazing with the standard bmw shifter just need to find a adapter kit to suit
We can help you with that. Both the enging to trans and trans to transfer case.
@ZeroTo60Tube how do we get in contact with you to discuss the adapters i would be interested
@@ryanellevsen1284 if you can send an email to 8speed.au@gmail.com with any questions, we will get back to asap.
I really want to mate an 8hp70 or 90 to the 5.0L Cummins V8 and replace the Aisin...
Any before and after performance comparisons? Drag times or rolls against similar setups but with manual etc?
Generally will pull 0.4-0.5 of a second off the 1/4 time. With out changing engine tune.
Thoughts on Masarati and Land Rover 8hp? same as the Jeep!?
Great vid. Anything off the shelf for the R33 GTR, driveshafts, mounts etc (the one you've already done in the shop?)
www.8speed.au/products/8hp-skyline-gtr-kit The base kit for the GTRs is here. However, we can also supply for extra the pre made drive shafts, so the entire thing is bolt in.
Hi.I will swap 8HP50 in my S14 with SR20det. I have MS and I need to keep the Silvia more easy to drive for me. I have to convert the car to my needs Which controller and transmission options are the best for me. I run Nistune ecu. Can you help me please. Regards Guido
Which one of these trans can be adapted to a 4x4 transfer case, if any. Working on a restomod idea for an older Jeep.
Probabaly go for a jeep version
What torque converter would I need for a 2jz w 500hp
I want to put a 8hp70 into a 98 Mazda b4000/ranger. You know where I can find info on parts
Wow I got many questions 😁 What is fastest trans brake(breake boosted) launch or locked trans/TQ launch?
I have zf 6hp28a61 now is it posible to change to 8hp? In the future I'm going for 1000hp. But starting with 700hp 900nm trying to find map for ecu and tcu with tuning tool. I have my12 Bentley CGT my14> use PDK. What is pros and cons for PDK and zf8hp? How much nm can I allow on tcu as max in my current 6hp28a61?
Will the 8HP case fit in an SN95 chassis without cutting up the trans tunnel?
Unfortunately i have no idea. They were not sold down here. That said most 90s models cars have room for a 8hp. They are very similar in size to a TR6060.
Have you looked at using this box as a replacement for the SMG in a E60 M5? I'm interested.
Yes, we actually have the s85 to 8hp adapter on the shelf. My concern is, the 8hp being so refined, may take away some of the s85 experience. I am about to start a series on S85 to DCT. However we have 2 s85 cars in the shop, so the later may get the 8hp.
@@ZeroTo60Tube cool look forward too seeing the episode. yeah love the SMG shifts at full noise but a pain while cruising. should be a huge market in Europe for the conversion and probably cheaper than a OEM replacement including the hydraulics.
So where I am lost at is which platform can I pull a 8hp70 out of. It seem like it’s cheaper in the states to find one out of a dodge however are they all same spec and dimension wise as the BMW’s I’m looking to put in a E90 with a 2jz swap.
As i mention in the video you need to find out what adapter plates are available for your engine, the adapter plate will determine which trans to go for. However, 2jz will be a 8hp70/75 from a rear wheel drive n57 or b57 powered BMW.
I’ve got a 4.6is and I’ve seen the m62 adaptor kits for the zf8. And they confirmed it could retain AWD. Do you think it’s doable!!? Can’t find any success stories on AWD m62 zf8 swaps, but it seems possible, in theory 🤔😈
Hello, please is it possible to change my bmw X5 e70 6speed automatic transmission to the 8hp 70
Thank you
Excellent video! I enjoyed the explanations. One thing I have heard about the 8HP transmissions is their RPM limit. If I were to put one behind a high revving K24 what could I expect to be able to rev to? What have you seen others spin these transmissions up to without having issues? Thanks!
HIghest power fitment i know of is a K24 that makes around 850hp. Its revving to 8400rpm.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Do you know if that was an 8HP70 or 8HP50? I have heard some thoughts that the 50 with the smaller internals may be able to handle higher rpms a bit easier.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Also Thank you for the reply. You guys are putting out the best content on the 8HP stuff out of everyone I can find on youtube! Keep it up and I enjoy every video!
@@UltraMiata Its a 70/75. The reduced friction area on the 50 would mean it wont hold the power and rpms like a 70/75. It will just be easier for the engine to spin it. After playing with both the small and large versions of the 8hps. The 45/50 really make no sense to me. They will not take the abuse of a 70/75 they are not compareable.
How well do you think these thing do it a Road race/track car application. Does it do fast shift in ANY rpm, are there anything one should be worried about in such a application using a 8HP?
How would you like to do a zf hp90 swap on a 2jz 80 series landcruiser.
Would love to see some videos roll racing on the track like before with the new set up
One day!
Now that you guys have got a 8HP adaptor plate toy the 1VD
1VD drift car coming up next????
While its possible..... not sure thats the best engine for that drift application lol.
Brilliant video!
Thank you! Cheers!
well done andrew even a learned friend like me knew what you were talking about.😁 cant wait for more content on another note can you tell me what the bolt spacing on a e90 guibo flex joint is. hoping its the same size as the barra 6hp26p one for my e90 conversion the barra one is 95mm between bolt holes any help appreciated cheers glenn
I can’t get to one at work easy. But I reckon I ran in to this issue previously. I think it was the output flange on the 8hp45 wouldn’t match the n54. But I can’t remember sizing….. hmmmm
I was considering a 4l80 swap behind my turbo 1FZ but now I’m intrigued by the 8hp. Any plans to adapt to the 1FZ in the future? I haven’t seen any adaptor kits.
They are in the works. Should be done by now, but had tonnes of delays with nearly every part of development.
Want to swap an 8hp45 in my e39 540 to modernize it
great information
thank you for this cool video, ı am thinking to put zf 8hp 45 to my e36 318is so ı want to make sure, can ı use original tcu of zf8 transmission, i m gonna keep engine stock as its my daily, thank you
Yes you can use the TCU in the transmisison. But you will need to use an interface like cantcu which i mention in this vid.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thank you very much 😁😁😁
Love the videos with how much information you provide!! What’s the average price in Aus for the n57 8hp70 box?
Normal price seems to be around $4000-$4400 unless the wrecker isnt really sure what he as got.
Hi bud, I love the channel. It's so helpful. I'm in the uk. I have a mk4 supra manual 6 speed box runing 1530bhp with 1150fl and I want to do the zf 8hp box could you recommend me 70 or the 75 box boys in the uk has already it been done 70 and it fits the tunnel in the supra thanks keep up the good work
Either box, will work. But you will likely need to beef the boxes up. That much power will be too much for them in stock form.
Thanks for the reply back bud I will definitely have the 8hp 70 built for the power but I'm not sure weather with the build box would hold up with the power or is my better option to go for a holinger 6 speed squential as I know the 8hp is all round better for me comfort power and for the smoothness and can be used as a daily with your experience and knowledge with a build 8hp do you think it would hold the power or for me to go holinger many thanks 😊
Thank you for the video, I'm happy that 8hp adoption is so high. I've been looking into doing 8hp swap into various cars I have.
Was going to do a 8hp into my 335d (maybe stock, maybe tuned to stage 1), happy to see that it will work, just needs few tweaks. Would you recommend cantcu vs lamik controller in this case? No race track, no drag, just trying to improve daily driving.
Also was pondering a swap into my 98 MB E300 (OM606), and while adapter plates exist for this combination, I'm unsure if the diesel OM606 makes enough power to actually take advantage of it. The M57 in my 335d starts to make 300+ ft/lb torque at only 1400rpm (if I'm reading the map correctly) and goes up to 500+ at 2000 rpm. The OM606 in my old E300 by constrast makes peak torque (240ft/lb) starting at 1600 all the way to 4500 rpm. Would you say that this would be a worthwhile upgrade for a DD vehicle? The old 722.6 is getting sluggish and tired....
So... what are whp losses with an 8HP vs DCT vs manual transmission? I was told the 8HP reduced WHP by ~40HP on a dyno when compared with S54 engine and manual transmission. But when you look at factory installed 0 to 60 times ie M240i etc. the 0 to 60 times are close...
Could you tell us more about the differences between the 45 [1st Gen), 50 (2nd Gen), 51 (3rd Gen) and the 8HP55? Is the 55 even RWD? How many different Bell Housing patterns did BMW use? Is it possible to find a large Bell housing (suitable for a V8) with the narrow diameter case (45/50/51 … 55?) in RWD form? This sounds like madness but I’am trying to fit an 8HP where a three speed TF 727 used to reside and space is a premium.
Honestly there are so many variances I don’t know them all.
Does anyone make adapters for your engine at the moment?
What's the part number on the torque convertor you use?
really informative video! i was wondering where you guys are sourcing your transmissions from, specifically 8hp70's, ive been calling wreckers across AUS and no one has one from an n57 car, mainly as the number of f seried i6 diesels are allready so low. even a friend of mine who works at a wrecker couldnt source something for me anywhere in vic. any advice or leads would be a huge help as my 6hp is on its way out haha
Never thought of it until today but could you 8HP swap a 6BT Cummins? Preferably pre common rail
Yes! We have one in the works.
Wow this is bloody insane! I'm building a Barra patrol and will be looking at throwing one of these in it for sure! I had a bf xr6 turbo with the zf 6 speed and loved banging gears in that. Brilliant gearboxes.
I wonder if you could chuck one of these in the N80 Hilux? Mine's an auto and I hate that it's constantly reving up on it's own going down hills and will never stay in 6th gear on the highway constantly chopping and changing it's a known problem with these Hilux's.
Could definitely use them in both applications. We have the barra to 8hp adapater kits on the way from domiworks and i know there are ZF to patrol transfer case adapters out there.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Any chance of making a ZF 8hp-75 adaptor plate to suit the Miami/Coyote 335kw engines in all the FG and FGX Falcons? Cheers Justin
Thanks for everything you do by the way 👌
Hey i am dropping a 8hp70 from a dodge into the e92, not finding an option for the trans mount do u know of any solution?
Not that i am aware of.