I mean you are not wrong, but a 1000hp will break a 5 speed, even a 6 speed will be on borrowed time. If you build a 4 speed to hold 1000hp they aren't very nice to drive.@@Star.Chaser
on boost half throttle in this car is about 800hp, so a basic 90deg turnis a problem. However to help you understand, the 8speed and turbo lamik whill be no different to a manual in a 50% throttle applciation. Converter will be locked. @@Whatguywhat
I had this car built, final setup was a Samsonas sequential before the current owner got it. It looks like the gearbox he’s chosen is absolutely awesome, can’t wait to see it doing what it does best. Props to Tama and the boys that have done the conversion. If this box holds up to the power, my next one will have the same setup. Awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome to see you in the comments section, with DBW this will be perfect. Best of both performance and daily driver potential. Looking forward to seeing it driven in anger.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I thought I’d DBW but didn’t have a problem with the boxes I had in it. Went from a PPG h pattern, to an OS88, then the samsonas when the bigger turbo went on. The OS88 was my favourite, but this 8 speed seems like the best solution if it holds the power. Can’t wait to see more, great job!
I’m very interested to see how this plays out! I went DBW and PPG Billet sequential for my 2.8L R33, but as I get older, the auto gearboxes appeal to me more and more. I only plan to on making ~850whp so I think an 8speed would survive longer in my car than it would in this monster! Keen to see how long it lasts and how well it does!
@@BrianCrofoot the new owner told me the current in car videos are on low boost, around 900hp at a guess (couldn’t get the gates to go any lower than 26psi), and it still looks stupid fast. If they handle the power it’ll be a game changer.
Love your 8hp videos! I just got my 8hp70 from an n63 that i'm going to put in my Dodge charger 69 with a 526cui gen 2 Hemi in it. I think I'll be the first with that particular conversion too 😄
Absolutely brilliant, really pleased to see some more zero to 60 content on these. From pioneering n54 content when we were all reflecting on our financial mistakes to making us want to go back to JDM.
Amazing! Getting the monster to be able to drive on the street! 8HP is extending life of classic cars… 1100 hp + 8 speed is mental! The built on your channel are absolutely inspiring! I’m actually building an E36 with N52B30 + 8hp45 and really looking forward to driving it 🏁🏁
Great kit for the GTR guys and a awesome installation. It will be interesting to see how the 8HP70 handles that power with 4 wheel traction. For street diving, the 8 spd is certainly the way to go. The gear changes in drive are similar to my 8HP75 with 8th gear coming just before 80 kph.
I am no Turbo Lamik Tuner Andrew. That is your expertise. But changing P1 to Map 2 has made driving much more pleasureable. With the GTR, I would try a TC launch before a transbrake launch to see how the drive train handles the power. Going on my experience, I reckon a transbrake launch would break something with 1,100hp on tap. How does the strength of the GTR diffs and axles compare with the BMW items? What is the diff ratio for the GTR? @@ZeroTo60Tube
@kencooper8636 the drive train should be ok however time will tell. The sequential that was in it was really savage, however the transbrake would be a good test for both the trans and diffs/axles. its runnung 4.11 diffs.
Well it's relatively cheap to have the 8hp70 rebuilt to handle 1200hp+(i have an awd 8hp50 in my 335i xdrive) to build it to 1000hp is $3499 and 5k or so for 1400 I think I'm the 8hp50...the 8hp70's handle more ho for the same $ amount t(like 1200 vs 1000). Personally I love mine to the point I'm glad I got it OVER the 6spd. I love my t56 but even without an xhp tune my auto is awesome and stupid fast shifts. I'm not 100%(and I'm sure you can tune with an aftermarket tcu) but it seems like the converter locks after takeoff and basically acts like an automated stick mostly. Engine e braking, etc...just like my t56. That seems like a ni Brainerd. Personally I want to make a v8 powered awd 8hp75 fully irs'd tacoma for street use, paddle shifters and all..road legal Baja truck that's a bit lowered
Im in the process using HP tuners to edit the 8 speed in my VW amarok. made some good improvements by changing the shift points to suit the engine and its made it more comfortable at lower speeds but shaved over 1 second off the 0-100km/h but short shifting 1-2 at 3500 and 2-3 at 3800 and dropping max rpm to 4300rpm in the higher gears to prevent it hitting its 4500 limiter. i find it frustrating how VW never completely tuned this gearbox for the engine because all the shaft speeds above 50% load are set at 6000rpm in a diesel. I really like the way that GTR is shifting and its going to be a good car to live with. the only thing Id be changing is the off throttle fuel cut to idle so the car would have stronger de-acceleration and nicer exhaust note until the torque converter unlocks and rpm drops to idle
my man!!!!! i cant wait to get my r33 swapped and moving again! mines making just about the same 1070whp , is that the full hpr trans build with the clutches and all the goodies? ill be the first in the usa, they should be sending my full kit very soon, i think they were waiting for feedback from you! lol. i just got the e92 drag car finished and fully dialed on lamik with the trans brake and 5k rpm stall. the gtr is going to be epic. ill be ordering my clutch kit for the foot pedal stuff this week, i got some cool videos to send ya of the e92 and all the stuff you helped us with!
Dude do a review on this - this is the biggest game changer in GTR history - Torque conv, 8Speed, the smaller 8HP51 from Pure Drivettrains are runing 7s - I can see the auto lebos scrambling for this
@@ZeroTo60Tubeyes amazing vids thank you 🙏 apart from being so fast with the 8 speed that thing will cruise so nicely on the hwy. maybe around 2k rpm @ 100kmh ? Will make it economical even with 1100hp 😅 my 5 spd is like 3k
@@mice6390 that really is the party trick of the 8hp boxes. They do all the fast stuff, but then drive really nice when you just want to cruise around.
Pure Drivetrain Solutions in New York have an upgrade package for the 8HP for 15k USD their Stg 3 is rated at 1600hp/1900Nm A few M3s and M4s running 8s with this gearbox stateside on a dragy with shitty bumpy roads wearing 19s and Toyos, ///M have figured a way to launch these things so hard with LC activated (dont know if that trickery could be replicated on a GTR?), most of the 8s cars launch fron 2nd. ZF also make the PDKs so they know how to make tough oem box Cant wait to see these things sorted and proliferate through the Aussie GTR community, congrats to the new owner switching from a Samsonas is really saying something
It’s the 8hp51 from pure running 7’s that we find very impressive. Trying gauge interest on a 8hp70 trans built for 2000hp to work out if we should develop one.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Very cool yeah i suspect the 7 is from a B58 Supra? I think youve hit the nail on the head here - huge power potential and speed for drags, comfortable cruising for street - win win
brother good morning I am sending you from beautiful Greece. when will you put the BMW back so we can see the 335? we miss your BMW and your videos. I have learned a lot of information from you and I am happy. everyone here in Greece after BMW thank you very much and we love you!
Yeah it will be good to see how this goes. At over 1000whp it really is at the higher end of the stock box limits, especially revving so high. Do you what fails on the trackhawks? Are they snapping shafts or slipping clutches?
Unreal. Would drive way better than a sequential and probably unsettle the car less on the shifts and keep the car on boost better which works way better with small motor big turbo setups. For roll racing and daily driving it would be unreal.
You hit the nail on the head there. On full song, you hardly feel the shifts. They are so fast and as the RPM drop isnt much, there isnt a much of a change in torque going through the trans, so you dont get the slow down feeling of the new gear you get in a manual/sequential.
Spot on, I noticed that in the small hit at around 5500rpm and going through the gears. Right on the turbo threshold and only dropping 500rpm or so each shift. I'm seriously impressed hey.
Loving it guys!! I’ve been beating on mine at the track now a few times, Project Popworth. Prepped track with slick tyres. It does sound like I get a bit of slip between changes? Been advised on a torque reduction. Could really do with a video on setting that up! 😉 definitely need some drag race episodes and setup. Keep up the great content guys!
I have seen yours in the group. How are you clucthes holding up to launching? Also been meaning to ask are you using the clutch pedal to launch or launch control stratergy?
@@ZeroTo60Tube The clutches are holding up perfectly. I’m launching at 5800rpm @ 1.2bar of boost. 1.7 60ft at the moment, I’m creeping up on launch rpm in ecu so more improvements to come. 😃 Due to my engine not being torquey enough at low rpm to use transbrake (n57 torque converter) I’m launching on virtual clutch just like a manual at present and it’s awesome. I need a higher stall converter for transbrake. It does sound like I get a small slip between gear changes, looking into reduction between shifts at the moment. 👍
So you have up and downshift. When you start the car, it always starts in park. You shift up to go to drive. Double downshift for reverse. To go from reverse or drive, you go through neatrual. You need an additional button to select park while the engine is running. When engine is off, it automatically turns the park lock on.
Does it handle 9000 rpm well? I was torn between ZF8hp and samsonas H pattern dogbox for an S85 swapped E90 I was planning to undertake a build. I don't want SMG. But I really want to keep the high revving nature of the S85. Atleast till 8500 rpm.
The trans is fine at 9000rpm. However I will say on a s85, the 8hp will be too good. You’ll loose the aggression/harshness. I’m just about to do a dct behind a s85. Easier swap and the characteristics of the dct will be nice behind the s85.
It’s just a matter of configuring the output over virtual i/o box then setting up the haltech to receive it. This actually comes in to the haltech as a EGT.
I set the drive mode output on the TCU to send as an analog voltage over CAN, then used that as EGT1 into the haltech and calibrated it to suit 0.5v for 1, 4v for 8 and inbetween. Then sent that to the IC7 dash as EGT one and renamed the channel to suit!
Its been running 1100whp through the 8speed since december..... however small issue with brake vacuum..... its coming back soon for electric vac pump and we will do an update video.
That looks amazing. I've seen some of these and some other people doing 8HP swaps. The changes to seem a bit more fierce, like a sequential or and old school single clutch. You talk about it adapting. Does this mean it is self learning and those shifts will get smoother? If so, will it get OEM/old scool auto smooth, or is there always some trade-off with these?
Complete trade off. We used the base map from one of our drift car set ups and the first drive was in full agressive mode. On a rear drive car that will chirp tyres. You can see later in the video in auto mode its very smooth.
Damn I’m holding my power back because I’m scared of breaking my 5 speed box at 700bhp looking at box upgrades. Can you run an electric clutch pedal with this also? Or pointless
@@ZeroTo60Tube cheers Guys might have to be the way to go, can you have a smooth release light a factory clutch, or is it on or off, if that makes sense
Its fully configureable with in the TCU, you can configure clutch percentage, then release time and clutch pressure based on time and pedal position. You can make it feel like a hyundai excel or a race clutch.@@Dreambodyworks
So lads , what torque converter is it running , as in other uploads , you have said , we can't run the standard n57 Diesel torque converter with a big turbo car ! So please explain this . I've started my Barra n57 8hp70 swap , my trans should arrive today , so I need to know about the converter .
Hey guys, I have an RB26/30 powered R34 GTT (rear-wheel drive) that I want to convert to 8HP70. Can I use a Haltech Platinum Pro ECU in conjunction with the Turbo Lamik controller? Or do I need a more modern ECU?
A turbo lamik will read the Platinum pro canbus. The only issue we have come accross are the first generation of race pack dash from Haltech. They have a specific canbus protocol which is different to the now normal haltech can.
Yes, we havent done it ourself, but a local guy has done one that was tuned here (engine ecu was tuned here after the 8hp). Nice behind the barra, instantly makes it feel like its got more power.
Controlling a transmission with full solenoid control is very difficult. This is controlled by a TurboLamik TCU, which is the controller we know of that actually controls the box this way.
So far yes, the high RPMS are no problem. The issue is the car idling high and not making power till 5000rpm. Would be nicer with a more open converter.
hi guys I have a BMW e38 735il that I'm putting a LS7 in. and I'm looking for the right transmission to put in it. something reliable and quick shifting. after some research I think I want to go with a zf 8hp. I'm not sure what will suit my application best out of all the 8hp range. what will handle the power? best (570hp 730nm) and what will fit the car best? thanks
Any of the 70 or 75s will work, however you need to find something that has an adapter already made. So first thing, find an adapter, then find a trans to suit that adapter.
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Being able to make an old-school weapon like this streetable is an amazing feat in itself🎉
With drive by wire, some downshift blips it would be epic. Hoping to get it out at rolls soon.
They’re streetable with an auto 4 speed or even factory 5/6spd.
I mean you are not wrong, but a 1000hp will break a 5 speed, even a 6 speed will be on borrowed time. If you build a 4 speed to hold 1000hp they aren't very nice to drive.@@Star.Chaser
@@ZeroTo60Tubehow’s turning let’s say about half throttle with the car on a basic 90 angle?
on boost half throttle in this car is about 800hp, so a basic 90deg turnis a problem. However to help you understand, the 8speed and turbo lamik whill be no different to a manual in a 50% throttle applciation. Converter will be locked. @@Whatguywhat
That 8HP is like the alcantara sword of the GTR!
Good to see it out in work🤙
It sure is!
Looks like it drives beautufully compared to a sequential! Sold my OS88 to go 8HP. This just confirms it was the right choice
16:03 the guy behind in the utility truck is staring deep into our souls
I had this car built, final setup was a Samsonas sequential before the current owner got it. It looks like the gearbox he’s chosen is absolutely awesome, can’t wait to see it doing what it does best.
Props to Tama and the boys that have done the conversion.
If this box holds up to the power, my next one will have the same setup.
Awesome video. Thanks for sharing.
It’s a 7685 btw
Awesome to see you in the comments section, with DBW this will be perfect. Best of both performance and daily driver potential.
Looking forward to seeing it driven in anger.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I thought I’d DBW but didn’t have a problem with the boxes I had in it. Went from a PPG h pattern, to an OS88, then the samsonas when the bigger turbo went on. The OS88 was my favourite, but this 8 speed seems like the best solution if it holds the power.
Can’t wait to see more, great job!
I’m very interested to see how this plays out! I went DBW and PPG Billet sequential for my 2.8L R33, but as I get older, the auto gearboxes appeal to me more and more. I only plan to on making ~850whp so I think an 8speed would survive longer in my car than it would in this monster! Keen to see how long it lasts and how well it does!
@@BrianCrofoot the new owner told me the current in car videos are on low boost, around 900hp at a guess (couldn’t get the gates to go any lower than 26psi), and it still looks stupid fast. If they handle the power it’ll be a game changer.
Love your 8hp videos!
I just got my 8hp70 from an n63 that i'm going to put in my Dodge charger 69 with a 526cui gen 2 Hemi in it. I think I'll be the first with that particular conversion too 😄
A big block with 8 speeds will be something else
Absolutely brilliant, really pleased to see some more zero to 60 content on these. From pioneering n54 content when we were all reflecting on our financial mistakes to making us want to go back to JDM.
hahaha, oh man financial mistakes are my thing it seems.
This is epic just needs to get sometime on a 1320 platform or similar an the views will go threw the roof.
Amazing! Getting the monster to be able to drive on the street! 8HP is extending life of classic cars… 1100 hp + 8 speed is mental! The built on your channel are absolutely inspiring! I’m actually building an E36 with N52B30 + 8hp45 and really looking forward to driving it 🏁🏁
Andrews face at 17:40 and 18:10 got me 😂
Now we are talking. Always said that 8hp is what every old car needs.
We need more uploads on this!
Have you seen the RUclips video “780HP R33 Skyline + 8HP70 + HTG GCU standalone” by “HTG tuning”? I think it came out 2 years ago.
Yes, just in case you didnt realise this was the first GTR. Being all wheel drive. Many rear wheel drive non GTR were already done.
@ 4 Wheel drive .. Got it, Ta ✔️
This is the type of driving experience that puts a smile on your face every time you drive your car:). Love it.
Couldn't agree more!
Very cool build. Love the digital dash. I first thought (hopefully) that the 8HP would be the same ZF 8 speed auto in my F30. Still very cool.
Damn!! Need this in my life. Glad to see y’all are alive still
Great video guys! Thanks for explaining things clearly!
This was done a while ago in the uk HTG TUNING on a r33 i think 🤔 still a nice build
The r33 in the uk was a rear wheel drive. Also HTG so it’s probably not working anymore.
What an amazing piece of kit! Can't wait to see the owner drive it in anger on the track or in Mexico somewhere ;-)
Maybe this weekend, just trying to get the track time booked.
That’s bloody awesome to see!! Thanks for documenting it for us all to enjoy!
But I can only try to imagine what it feels like in that car.. 😁
This GTR is Epic!!! Great job guys!! 8hp Barra next pls!
Great kit for the GTR guys and a awesome installation. It will be interesting to see how the 8HP70 handles that power with 4 wheel traction. For street diving, the 8 spd is certainly the way to go. The gear changes in drive are similar to my 8HP75 with 8th gear coming just before 80 kph.
When is "Kens Turbo Lamik Tuning Service" opening up for business? :P
I am no Turbo Lamik Tuner Andrew. That is your expertise. But changing P1 to Map 2 has made driving much more pleasureable. With the GTR, I would try a TC launch before a transbrake launch to see how the drive train handles the power. Going on my experience, I reckon a transbrake launch would break something with 1,100hp on tap. How does the strength of the GTR diffs and axles compare with the BMW items? What is the diff ratio for the GTR? @@ZeroTo60Tube
@kencooper8636 the drive train should be ok however time will tell. The sequential that was in it was really savage, however the transbrake would be a good test for both the trans and diffs/axles. its runnung 4.11 diffs.
Well it's relatively cheap to have the 8hp70 rebuilt to handle 1200hp+(i have an awd 8hp50 in my 335i xdrive) to build it to 1000hp is $3499 and 5k or so for 1400 I think I'm the 8hp50...the 8hp70's handle more ho for the same $ amount t(like 1200 vs 1000). Personally I love mine to the point I'm glad I got it OVER the 6spd. I love my t56 but even without an xhp tune my auto is awesome and stupid fast shifts. I'm not 100%(and I'm sure you can tune with an aftermarket tcu) but it seems like the converter locks after takeoff and basically acts like an automated stick mostly. Engine e braking, etc...just like my t56. That seems like a ni Brainerd. Personally I want to make a v8 powered awd 8hp75 fully irs'd tacoma for street use, paddle shifters and all..road legal Baja truck that's a bit lowered
Great work and missed your content. All the best with everything
thanks so much man, getting close to the end of the madness
Man oh man the gear ratio selections would keep the beast on song 👍👌👌👌
8HP just became pure unobtainium!
Hahaha! Luckily you know a guy who has a few of you ever want one.
ive had an 8hp70 from an ecodiesel sitting in the dirt for almost 2 years now lol
Im in the process using HP tuners to edit the 8 speed in my VW amarok. made some good improvements by changing the shift points to suit the engine and its made it more comfortable at lower speeds but shaved over 1 second off the 0-100km/h but short shifting 1-2 at 3500 and 2-3 at 3800 and dropping max rpm to 4300rpm in the higher gears to prevent it hitting its 4500 limiter.
i find it frustrating how VW never completely tuned this gearbox for the engine because all the shaft speeds above 50% load are set at 6000rpm in a diesel.
I really like the way that GTR is shifting and its going to be a good car to live with. the only thing Id be changing is the off throttle fuel cut to idle so the car would have stronger de-acceleration and nicer exhaust note until the torque converter unlocks and rpm drops to idle
Well done boys looks like an awesome bit of kit!
I just ordered up the hpr kit for my r33. Great video!
Good choice!
my man!!!!! i cant wait to get my r33 swapped and moving again! mines making just about the same 1070whp , is that the full hpr trans build with the clutches and all the goodies? ill be the first in the usa, they should be sending my full kit very soon, i think they were waiting for feedback from you! lol. i just got the e92 drag car finished and fully dialed on lamik with the trans brake and 5k rpm stall. the gtr is going to be epic. ill be ordering my clutch kit for the foot pedal stuff this week, i got some cool videos to send ya of the e92 and all the stuff you helped us with!
Amazing work. I bet this is much faster than a 1100hp R35
The HUD tells you just about everything except your speed... nice
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uhhhhh ohhhh........
Really want to see a cover on this car Andrew
🤔🤔🤔@@ZeroTo60Tube
Dude do a review on this - this is the biggest game changer in GTR history - Torque conv, 8Speed, the smaller 8HP51 from Pure Drivettrains are runing 7s - I can see the auto lebos scrambling for this
Yes please reveiw it @MotiveVideo
Nice variety of cars on your channel wow, well done.
Glad you like them!
@@ZeroTo60Tubeyes amazing vids thank you 🙏 apart from being so fast with the 8 speed that thing will cruise so nicely on the hwy. maybe around 2k rpm @ 100kmh ? Will make it economical even with 1100hp 😅 my 5 spd is like 3k
@@mice6390 that really is the party trick of the 8hp boxes. They do all the fast stuff, but then drive really nice when you just want to cruise around.
Tuning skills, next level 🤘😎
Absolute Weapon! 🔥
Thanks man, can't wait to see it driven in anger! Shes roudy the way the trans keeps the engine singing through the gears.
The blow off valve sounds marvelous
Pure Drivetrain Solutions in New York have an upgrade package for the 8HP for 15k USD their Stg 3 is rated at 1600hp/1900Nm
A few M3s and M4s running 8s with this gearbox stateside on a dragy with shitty bumpy roads wearing 19s and Toyos, ///M have figured a way to launch these things so hard with LC activated (dont know if that trickery could be replicated on a GTR?), most of the 8s cars launch fron 2nd.
ZF also make the PDKs so they know how to make tough oem box
Cant wait to see these things sorted and proliferate through the Aussie GTR community, congrats to the new owner switching from a Samsonas is really saying something
It’s the 8hp51 from pure running 7’s that we find very impressive. Trying gauge interest on a 8hp70 trans built for 2000hp to work out if we should develop one.
@@ZeroTo60Tube Very cool yeah i suspect the 7 is from a B58 Supra?
I think youve hit the nail on the head here - huge power potential and speed for drags, comfortable cruising for street - win win
It's nice that many of peoples using Samsonas gear box, which is manufactured in Lithuania :)
I have one on order, cant wait to get this into my rb30/26 skyline
wow wow wow wow this is sooo cool omg its perfect this is like exactly how i would love to build it this it mind blowing
Awesome setup. Great work guys!
Thanks so much!
Jesus dude I've been hoping to see such a conversion,epic
EIGHT HORSE POWER!!! SWEET!
brother good morning I am sending you from beautiful Greece. when will you put the BMW back so we can see the 335? we miss your BMW and your videos. I have learned a lot of information from you and I am happy. everyone here in Greece after BMW thank you very much and we love you!
Dude its been a nightmare. There is a thread on spoolstreet if you are interested in knowing what happened.
yes friend I'm interested tell me what exactly to press because I don't know to search to find the issue
This gearbox is just so good.
Be interesting to see if it can hold the power. I've heard of tuned trackhawks blowing 8hp90s but they aren't the beamer zfs so who knows.
Yeah it will be good to see how this goes. At over 1000whp it really is at the higher end of the stock box limits, especially revving so high. Do you what fails on the trackhawks? Are they snapping shafts or slipping clutches?
Good kit, the biggest down side would be cost comparison vs other autos/ sequentials. Looks very smooth tho. Then there’s the racing side of things
Awesome conversion guys! Great job. Dutch regards Nico.
Glad you enjoyed it and man its nice seeing you still in the comments..... how is your car going lately?
@@ZeroTo60Tube Thanks Andrew! Since I put the car on index 12 injectors, it's a great car again. Cheers, Nico
Awesome work! Is this Dan's? 😊
That was brillant veiwing, couple of bright guys..hope it can handle the abuse of 1100hp.
Unreal. Would drive way better than a sequential and probably unsettle the car less on the shifts and keep the car on boost better which works way better with small motor big turbo setups. For roll racing and daily driving it would be unreal.
You hit the nail on the head there. On full song, you hardly feel the shifts. They are so fast and as the RPM drop isnt much, there isnt a much of a change in torque going through the trans, so you dont get the slow down feeling of the new gear you get in a manual/sequential.
Spot on, I noticed that in the small hit at around 5500rpm and going through the gears. Right on the turbo threshold and only dropping 500rpm or so each shift. I'm seriously impressed hey.
100% putting one in my 2j R34 GTR bodied clone 😂 perfect set up and now there is local support for the conversions 🍻 legends
Hell yes!
Im putting one in mine when the clucth goes. Kinda also waiting to see how maxecu works out. Im sure you will need some torque management on shifts
Sad whats going on... hope you guys get thru it
Cheers man! It is what it is. Can't wait for it to be over tho.
With the billet pan does it now have a changeable sump filter or a cleanable screen?
Exhangable filter
Loving it guys!! I’ve been beating on mine at the track now a few times, Project Popworth. Prepped track with slick tyres. It does sound like I get a bit of slip between changes? Been advised on a torque reduction. Could really do with a video on setting that up! 😉 definitely need some drag race episodes and setup. Keep up the great content guys!
I have seen yours in the group. How are you clucthes holding up to launching? Also been meaning to ask are you using the clutch pedal to launch or launch control stratergy?
@@ZeroTo60Tube The clutches are holding up perfectly. I’m launching at 5800rpm @ 1.2bar of boost. 1.7 60ft at the moment, I’m creeping up on launch rpm in ecu so more improvements to come. 😃 Due to my engine not being torquey enough at low rpm to use transbrake (n57 torque converter) I’m launching on virtual clutch just like a manual at present and it’s awesome. I need a higher stall converter for transbrake. It does sound like I get a small slip between gear changes, looking into reduction between shifts at the moment. 👍
Alright, this convinced me, I'm getting an 8HP swap one day!
Damn, that’s impressive making 8 horsepower
The tune up will decide weather or not that box lives!
Were all backingplates replaced to sonax billet ones or just 2 of them?
INCREDIBLE!!!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!!!!🏆
What car is the transmission out of?
BMW x5 Diesel
Great work boys!
Appreciate it!
Very interesting, amazing work. When using the HPR shifter and paddles, how do you select reverse, neutral and park?
So you have up and downshift. When you start the car, it always starts in park. You shift up to go to drive. Double downshift for reverse. To go from reverse or drive, you go through neatrual. You need an additional button to select park while the engine is running. When engine is off, it automatically turns the park lock on.
is it a built gearbox or stock ? can it rev to 9000 rpm ? what about track use does it overheat?
This was a HPR cat0. Seems fine at 9000rpm 1100whp
ZF says on the website that 8HP can only handle 7200RPM, is it safe to use the box for higher RPM engines?
Fwoar!!!!!! DREAMS!! crazy what’s possible these days
I have a 2001 Lexus GS300 and looking into putting this transmission in the car. I havent seen anyone to this with a GS300 with 2jzgte.🤔
We have one at the shop at the moment. We will do a build vid on it in the next month i hope.
Does it handle 9000 rpm well?
I was torn between ZF8hp and samsonas H pattern dogbox for an S85 swapped E90 I was planning to undertake a build.
I don't want SMG.
But I really want to keep the high revving nature of the S85. Atleast till 8500 rpm.
The trans is fine at 9000rpm.
However I will say on a s85, the 8hp will be too good. You’ll loose the aggression/harshness.
I’m just about to do a dct behind a s85. Easier swap and the characteristics of the dct will be nice behind the s85.
Can you provide some more setup info for the settings to broadcast to Haltech? How do you get the drive mode to broadcast to Hal tech etc
It’s just a matter of configuring the output over virtual i/o box then setting up the haltech to receive it. This actually comes in to the haltech as a EGT.
I set the drive mode output on the TCU to send as an analog voltage over CAN, then used that as EGT1 into the haltech and calibrated it to suit 0.5v for 1, 4v for 8 and inbetween. Then sent that to the IC7 dash as EGT one and renamed the channel to suit!
@@Buckna1 thanks mate I’ll try it on a 1uz 105 8speed build I have on the go atm
Did this car get sorted running full power with launch control and all the other things you can make it do?
Its been running 1100whp through the 8speed since december..... however small issue with brake vacuum..... its coming back soon for electric vac pump and we will do an update video.
How does one make a transmission like this fit the gtst models?
I am really really considering this kit for my gtr… but i would like to sort out the dbw before going ahead with it
Wise move, while it works with out drive by wire. it will add some cool features to the conversion, like down shift blips etc.
Do you know if a Holley terminator Xmax can work with the can tcu ?
I believe so
Hopefully see some more videos it's been a long time between videos
8 speed in my chaser is looking like it could be a good idea haha
That looks amazing. I've seen some of these and some other people doing 8HP swaps. The changes to seem a bit more fierce, like a sequential or and old school single clutch. You talk about it adapting. Does this mean it is self learning and those shifts will get smoother? If so, will it get OEM/old scool auto smooth, or is there always some trade-off with these?
Complete trade off. We used the base map from one of our drift car set ups and the first drive was in full agressive mode. On a rear drive car that will chirp tyres. You can see later in the video in auto mode its very smooth.
Damn I’m holding my power back because I’m scared of breaking my 5 speed box at 700bhp looking at box upgrades. Can you run an electric clutch pedal with this also? Or pointless
You can, and we do all the drift cars.
@@ZeroTo60Tube cheers Guys might have to be the way to go, can you have a smooth release light a factory clutch, or is it on or off, if that makes sense
Its fully configureable with in the TCU, you can configure clutch percentage, then release time and clutch pressure based on time and pedal position. You can make it feel like a hyundai excel or a race clutch.@@Dreambodyworks
So lads , what torque converter is it running , as in other uploads , you have said , we can't run the standard n57 Diesel torque converter with a big turbo car ! So please explain this . I've started my Barra n57 8hp70 swap , my trans should arrive today , so I need to know about the converter .
This is a stock n57 converter.
Hey guys,
I have an RB26/30 powered R34 GTT (rear-wheel drive) that I want to convert to 8HP70. Can I use a Haltech Platinum Pro ECU in conjunction with the Turbo Lamik controller? Or do I need a more modern ECU?
A turbo lamik will read the Platinum pro canbus. The only issue we have come accross are the first generation of race pack dash from Haltech. They have a specific canbus protocol which is different to the now normal haltech can.
@@ZeroTo60Tube That is great. I have a IC7 so everything might work out.
I was able to get an 8hp75 from a diesel BMW X6 (N57). Part no. GA8HP75Z. Probably would suit this car better than the 8hp70x.
Would 8hp75 work on a mazda mk1 na miata. Thinking of giving the 30 year old girl a upgrade.
With these controllers you can control them in anything.
This is an amazing swap!
How does this conversation compare cost wise in comparison to sequential?
Slightly cheaper than a sequential, if using a transmission specc'd like this one. Would be dearer than sequential if you are pushing more power.
Was just thinking about you guys today! Would it be possible to put one of these behind an FG F6 (barra)??
Yes, we havent done it ourself, but a local guy has done one that was tuned here (engine ecu was tuned here after the 8hp). Nice behind the barra, instantly makes it feel like its got more power.
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks for the reply, I’ll send you guys an email 👊
this is great, but i do love that whining sound from cut gears.
how does it kickdown when u mash the go pedal
However its programmed to. kickdown points are configurable based on RPM and pedal position. You can also set different points for different modes.
I need one In my life asap
Keen to see launch videos strap a draggy in it and send it!
Ok...looks great! How much is something like this to build..realistically?
The 79 series conversion is about $25k. Not sure about this exact one.
What is controlling the gearbox?
Is it haltech itself? Or other aftermarket gearbox controller??
Controlling a transmission with full solenoid control is very difficult. This is controlled by a TurboLamik TCU, which is the controller we know of that actually controls the box this way.
What adapter kit should I use? Domiworks or PMC motorsports
We have had a few issues with both. But we have used probabaly 200 domiworks kits and 2 pmc.
updates on this car ? does the converter really survive the 9000upm ? this worries me the most
So far yes, the high RPMS are no problem. The issue is the car idling high and not making power till 5000rpm. Would be nicer with a more open converter.
@@ZeroTo60Tube which converter are you using ? From the 8hp70? Thanks for your Videos btw ❤️
This has a stock 8hp70 n57 converter@@sLothiC
Post fuel economy at a later date please!! Thanks from Canada
Patiently waiting for the 1HD kit....
hi guys I have a BMW e38 735il that I'm putting a LS7 in. and I'm looking for the right transmission to put in it. something reliable and quick shifting. after some research I think I want to go with a zf 8hp. I'm not sure what will suit my application best out of all the 8hp range. what will handle the power? best (570hp 730nm) and what will fit the car best?
thanks
Any of the 70 or 75s will work, however you need to find something that has an adapter already made. So first thing, find an adapter, then find a trans to suit that adapter.
Nice one! Many similarities with my E30 kind of :)
The first time this thing hit boost i thought about your e30. Probabaly similar power to weight ratio. How is your current project going?
Is this the 8 speed ZF auto that they put in BMW's?
Yeah. They are most decent modern cars…. Also some not so decent.
SPECTACULAR this is a WEAPON. We lockd in 🇯🇲
Does the 8hp70 have any upgrades to handle more power?
This one has been opened up inspected and a few very small parts changed. But still used original clutches.
i seen use put a 8hp in a ford fg, will we see a video of it
We didnt do the FG, but have supplied a few TCUs for the conversions.
Is there a youtube channel or instagram where we can follow the build of this car?
Unfortunately not.
Where’s the 335i n54 now a days haven’t seen it on your channel for about a year now .
www.spoolstreet.com/threads/zero-to-60-youtube-channel-got-raided-by-the-australian-police.8531/#post-125171