How to connect two analog mixing consoles together
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
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Over the past year I have received multiple requests to do a video showing how to connect two mixers together, either for the purposes of supplementing the channel count on an existing mixer or for sending audio between two different venues or locations. Here it is!
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00:00 Intro
00:38 Situations where you would need to do this.
2:16 Three questions to ask beforehand.
5:38 Situation 1 - mixers less than 15 feet/5 meters apart.
20:06 Situation 2 - mixers more than 15 feet/5 meters apart.
27:04 Dealing with noise and grounding issues.
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Your videos are pristine. And EXTREMELY informative. I cannot thank you enough for being so detailed yet basic. Just remember, someone in Canada is always looking forward to your next instructional video.
Regards,
+FluteHypnosia Thanks very much for getting in touch, glad the videos have been helpful. Feel free to get in touch directly if you have any questions :)
You are just absolutely amazing! We recently lost our church sound engineer, and because of all your helpful and extremely professional tutorials, I've been able to step up and assist the sound team. THANK YOU BRUNO!
You're welcome, glad the videos have been helpful. Don't be afraid to engage a local pro sound engineer in your area to train your team - they can do much more in person than I can through the internet ;)
church sound engineer?😆
don’t you mean sound room boy?
Good morning Mr Bruno, how would I connect two mixers; The main mixer for house boxes and the sub-mixer for monitor boxes
This is what makes RUclips so powerful! Guys like you Bruno!
You're a genius. Thorough explenations, simple english, perfect video. Thanks for the knowledge
You're welcome, thanks very much for watching!
One of the best mixing videos I have seen. You are a gifted teacher!
Thanks for watching! Glad the video was helpful.
Simply awesome information and explained so that there is no doubt as to the message being relayed. Thank you GLB PRODUCTIONS.
You're welcome, Tommy!
Bruno,
These videos are such a big help. Even though I normally set sound for our band, I sometimes always run into certain situations were I need help....and you are that link and professional advice found. So easily understood, and no time wasted. Thank You!
You're most welcome, this channel is all about helping people out. Let me know if you have any questions in future.
Hi Bruno. Having been thrust into the position of leading a band a number of years ago, following the passing of my brother, I have found your videos to be an absolutely invaluable source of information regarding mixer settings, use of DI boxes etc etc.
Not only useful but extremely easy to follow.
Keep up the great work Bruno,
Cheers,
Stuart
That's great news Stuart, glad to hear that you've been able to step in to your brother's role. All the best with your music!
I really really really love this ... so educative and clear... Sir I am greatful, I salute.
Thank you Bruno! I wish I had been watching your series years ago!
One of the clearest explanations out there. And such bright articulation ! Not a single "You know", "I mean", "Uummm", "And aaaaaa" not a single time !! Thanks a thousand times for sharing crystal clear infos !
You're welcome! thanks for watching and supporting the channel :)
Just what I was looking for ... and I don't think I could have had a better more patient and thorough demonstration! Thank you!! Well done!
You're most welcome Rudolf, glad the video was helpful :)
What an absolutely amazing and informative video this, is just what I was looking for. I have to setup a six piece band using the 2x Behringer xenyx 1002b battery operated mixers feeding 2 x AHA battery operated powered speakers. As you guessed there are no mains. This video has given me the confidence to purchase those mixers so I can do the gig! Thank you so much!
That's great Dusky, all the best with your gig!
thank you very much Sir...a very brilliant video to watch.
@ 26:13 was the best tip most people dont cover. was nice to see you add it in
Thanks for watching right to the end 😄
I attended a fairly well-known audio school known as Metalworks Institute (offshoot of Metalworks Studios) for Audio Production & Engineering. While they employ industry professionals, this video taught me *WAY* more than that program could've. Very non-intuitive and non-engaging "hands on" lessons with multi-million SSL consoles.
I applaud you sir for your in-depth and well explained tutorial. *Bravo!*
Great to hear from you, glad the video was helpful. It's unfortunate that a lot of people in our industry are technically very proficient but have little ability to impart those skills to others in a systematic and pedagogically sound way.
Thank You Very Detailed Video .
this was so educational. thanks for you hard work.
Thank you for your explanations. I'd like to know how to connect a crossover a compressor an equaliser to the same mixer and what are their effect over the sound
wow this has been so instructive and so patient!!! no flashy content, cut-to-point and very very useful!!! thanks you!
You're most welcome.
And I keep on learning... I have been submixing before, I never considered the 3 points you raised at the beginning; never knew about the 3 options of connecting the 2 mixers. I have learned about the 2 clicks for a balanced and unbalanced jack. You are the best! Thank you. this is the 4th video I have watched consecutively, just for the sake of learning.
Thanks for watching Renes!
This video is helpful. Thank you Bruno. Can you make a video, how to run a separate mixer and amps for monitors. i do not know that how i can mix/control the stage monitors when we have more instruments on stage but the main foh console has only 3 aux sends. Thanks again Bro.
Astonishing video! You actually managed to string out 2 whole minutes of information to over half-an-hour!
The devil is in the details my friend 😅
Dude thank you so much for this video. Im helping a church that has 2 Digital consoles and they are running out of channels. They have a Midas M32 and a Behringer x32. Unfortunately this consoles can not be hook up to add more channels digitally. So I had to go back to basics and refresh my memory. Your video was the best one. IM glad you never took it off. Thanks so much.
Glad to hear that - they must have a LOT of inputs!
GLB Productions they almost running out. And the bad part is that the X32 doesn't allow to add another mixer for additional channels. You can only do a slave mixer for monitoring.So I'm going to do a sub mix and send it thru the auxes.
Glb productions, when I need your always there great job and rock on
Ja ja ja... "uneexpected string quartet mariachi band .... jaja ja Saludos desde México.
Greetings back from Singapore!
Thanks that was a massive help.
I doing a school reunion and putting together a band with old class mates. Started off quite low key but the drummer now says he is fully micing up his kit and has a mixer. So this will surely help!!
Thanks a million
You're welcome! Just be sure that the mix the drummer sends you is balanced for the room and not for his headphones and you should be fine ;)
As simple as this concept seems, this video is very thorough and explains very well the differences in connecting mains and sub boards. Nicely done!
Allan Reinike Thanks for watching, appreciate the comment :)
CLEAR, CONCISE INSTRUCTION. I AM GLAD i HAVE FOUND YOUR VIDEOS. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR KNOWLEDGE SHARING SAVING ALL OF US HOURS OF SEARCHING FOR LESSER INFORMATION. TECHNICAL BUT GENERAL ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT PROFESSIONAL SOUND PRODUCTS AND SETUPS.
great video, thank you, I have learned new things - I already performed some concerts in the past where I had to connect another little mixer to my main powered mixer - in my case I used the THE MAIN OUT channels from the little mixer to the input on THE TAPE channels on my main mixer and I had no problems - they were near each other on the same table and I have used a special cable for this kind of connection , directly made from the factory ... probably it is not the best solution, for sure - and your video made more clear all these ! ... :) thank you very much once again , be bleseed ! ... :)
Mackie VLZ 1202 made in the 90's - my first mixer. Still rocking.
Great! What a great explanation of this application. I’ve been making music for a long time and seem to be addicted to purchasing and using older 80’s mixers for my personal use but I’ve found that I’ve run out of channels. I’ve always done pretty much exactly as you’ve demonstrated but this is a great conformation with the knowledge to back it up. I really appreciate this video. Thank you.
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
I am watching this again! This is so helpful! Thank you Bruno so much for your support.
Projector It's good to revise and revisit things. You're welcome Leda :)
A massive thank you, your videos are so informative, and explained things clearly and concisely, also excellent lighting and camera work with no awkward shadows. I have inherited an older Soundcraft EFX8 to mix for a banjolele play-out group, CV19 permitting..
You're very welcome, all the best for your music!
I thought i attended a seminar pro audio.great! Many thanks.
Great video, thanks! I did this a few weeks before watching your video with a Phonic MU200XP and a Phonic MU1202, I used RCA to 6.35mm cables and took the Record Output of the first mixer and then plugged it into one of the stereo input channels on the second mixer. I was doing this because the main mixer we have a school, a Soundcraft Signature 16 blew up a few weeks ago and we had a load of shows to do so using this bodge setup was the only option really.
Yes sometimes you just gotta do what ya gotta do 😂
Which RCA Cable did you use: male to male or male to female? Please advise.
@@TheBosstrainers I used 6.35mm jack to male RCA
And EXTREMELY informative. I cannot thank you enough for being so detailed yet basic.
You're most welcome, glad the video was helpful!
Loved your explanation and the best part was, you were not rushing into it. A good steady pace with the correct vid. Thank you.
You're welcome Ninad, thanks for watching.
This was fantastic. Thank you so much. Please keep making these kinds of videos. You are very good at it.
Best tutorial ever. . .Your tutorials are amazing. Thank you so much.
WOW !!! big thank you for the tip regarding the two clips to know if we have balanced or unbalanced connectors!
You're welcome :)
my sound has realy improved when i started watching your videos
That's great, my videos are all about getting better sound for everyone!
Very thorough and useful. Great depth and focus in your explanations. Thank you for taking time and helping out.
You're welcome Tom, thanks for watching!
World class. Thank you so much for a elaborate explanation and covering several cases. I would rate this video in my top 5 useful videos on youtube.
Thanks for watching my friend, very glad the video was useful!
Wow, great video. This is the 1st i saw and much more to come.
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Thanks, Billy
+PMR1WRT You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Indeed you are the MixMaster. Excellent tutorial. Well done and thank you!
You're welcome, thanks for watching Rozcel!
I thought this video would be too basic but there is some really useful information in here. Thank you!
As always great work Sir, thank you for a very informative straight on tutorial. God bless you!
This is one of the best tutorials (generally speaking) very clear, very informative. Thank you very much, I was looking for exactly these informations.
You're welcome Simon :)
Your video is very informative..applied your instructions as I connected two mixers together for the first time..a big thank you coming all the way from Fiji..
You're welcome Aisea, thanks for watching!
it is WONDERFUL to listen to someone who REALLY knows what he is talking about. ... SUBCRIBED!
Thanks Mark, welcome to the channel! 😊
Very very professional and informative.Thanks Phil.
Very educational. Very well explained with a clear tone, direct thus avoiding any confusion what so ever. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I Have watched a few of your other videos and I like the way you explain things. Best regards from Tustin, California.
Thanks for watching Leo, appreciate your support for the channel!
Beautifully explained. Cleared doubts regarding connections. Very very informative. Thanks a lot for valuable information.
You're most welcome.
Thanks Bruno, very well articulated👌🏾
Your videos are great. Very useful, easy to understand, and relevant. Thank you for taking the time to do these videos.
+Scott Rader You're most welcome. If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions?ty=h Every little bit helps!
Will I have to hook a dj mixer to the main mixer the same way thru channel one and channel 2
you are the best teacher on RUclips period. thanks for all you do.
Glad the video was helpful, thank you for watching!
Great instructional video - clear and precise!
Thank you very much for this video, even got the Ebtech 6in1 tester.
Great I'm sure it'll serve you well - remember to change the batteries at least once a year!
I spent probably 8 hours scouring the internet and youtube looking for an answer to my question that no one seemed to be able to do, or make clear. In one video you have answered everything, SO clearly and concise. Actually learning new things, and finding answers to questions I didn't even know how to ask. Mad respect, thank you for how knowledgable you are.
That's great, this is exactly why I set up the channel in the first place!
brilliant video! You clearly know your stuff and take great pains not to rush the viewer. I have learning issues and enjoyed it immensely. Unlike many 'pros' you don't ASSUME any superior knowledge level. Subscribed to your wonderful channel & 11/10 & 5*s. More please!
Thanks for watching Tony :)
You sir, a true lifesaver! Subscribed.
The best teacher anybody could ask for.
Thank you again boss!
You're welcome, thanks for watching. If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions Every little bit helps!
Thank you for this video - you have confirmed what I have been thinking and you have saved me some time pondering. I am going to use this to free up some channels in my mixing desk for recording......... the sketch track instruments in live room into summing mixer > summing mixer out into 2 inputs on recording desk which will be recording the drum tracks. The summing mixer can be placed with the drummer where he can use it for a head phone mix where he can control the levels. This just uses 2 channel on the recording mixer compared to 4 (Bass, guitar 1, guitar 2 and vocals) best wishes
Just bear in mind that if you do this you will not be able to re-balance the levels of the drumkit during mixdown. All the best with your recording!
@@GLBProductions drums will go in to main desk to Daw, the sketch guitars will be in the note pad mixer just for reference. :) thank you
Thank you very much for your video. This is exceptional work there, detailed and easy to understand guidelines. Bravo sir!
You're welcome, glad the videos have been helpful :)
Bruno, my compliments and thanks. I inherited the defacto "sound guy" role in my current band even though I'm the drummer. Normally our set ups are small but we have a gig up coming up out doors with added musicians and huge space, so I've had to engineer our set up and have latched on to your series. We normally can get away with a 1200W Mackie 808S but for this gig need to sent 2 sub mixers through it for Drums and additional inputs. Have it all mapped out but the Leader and creative driver of our group doesn't get the engineering problem. Your tutorials, particularly this one are a terrific resource (My biggest fear is incorrect gain stucture between the submixers and main mixer) and I thank you for sharing your knowledge. I've got plenty of cable, adaptors, mics etc- but am picking upo a "swiss Army" knife today :-) Bless you. Regards, CO
You're welcome Chris, great to hear from you! Connecting TWO sub mixers is quite exceptional, even in professional situations - you'll definitely find that the signal generator comes in handy for setting levels! Be very sure that the mixers are all on the same power circuit and you should be fine. In cases where the tester is not with you, any pink noise or test tone app can be used instead.
Thanks. Great explanation on ground loops as well. will get in front of that as well. These musicians.....they think this stuff is magic :-)
Well, a wise man once said: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. - Arthur C. Clarke ;)
Always an admirer or AC Clarke. Great quote. One last question- Re the Tone Generator which non mic (line Level) should it be set to- +4 or -10? Assuming Pro Plus 4 but want to be clear. Thanks again.
You can use either level because you are using the mixer's gain control to achieve unity gain, but I normally use +4 :)
Excellent explanation! I think it's the only video that explains this. I have two mixers . One small and one larger. But even so , when I want miking drums, the channels are not enough. So I thought in miking drums with small mixer and send that mixture to the largest mixer ; but did not know if that if he could do without running risks of damage. Your video is excellent and I think you're the only one that has explained . Greetings and thanks!
+Diego Staltari You're welcome, glad the video was helpful. Feel free to get in touch if you ever have questions about your particular setup.
I'm so glad I found this as resolve to an on stage solution to my problem. I'm doing 5 piece band on A&H 22FX via 30 metre snake... now they tell me they have hired a line dance team that wants own full contol of their music and wireless mic! So fast came to the conclusion I need to put my mini 8 channel Beringher at their on stage position... so the last topic of this video requiring ground lift via a two channel DI will do tbe trick The Beringher has balanced TRS out etc. Setting tbe gains using a spotify test tone is most helpful.
Another interesting thing was using another desk for its effects coming in on the inserts. It's the lead singer that was'nt happy with the effects on the 22FX but thats probably me that needs more practise but hello I can use tbe desk tbe lead singer likes and simply plug in... awsome value gained tbrough this video. Many thanks
Your welcome, hope your events go well!
I own a small sound company. I often use older analog gear, when specific gear is not being requested, or Im not meeting the requirements of a technical rider in a contract, and I can basically take whatever I want.
I have a Peavey SRC 2400 24 channel console. I also have a Peavey MD 12 channel mixer. Peavey really anticipated the linking of consoles, and generally had really good patching facilities to make that possible. There are numerous times where I have used the 24 channel as the main console, and the MD is linked to it for additional channels...maybe for an opening act, etc... Peavey even allowed for the PFL/Solo feature to be linked via a single TRS 1/4" cable.
So from the smaller MD mixer I take the Main L/R out into the Main Left/Right Aux In on the 2400. That simply sends the main signal from the MD to the Main bus on the 2400. This way you are not wasting input channels on the main mixer. The same feature applies to auxiliaries, and sub groups. This also makes calibration between mixers a bit easier , by removing the preamps that you are using on the input channels. This allows things like main graphic eqs, monitor eqs, and effects to benefit both mixers.
The Peavey mixer you have there, features two stereo return busses...which route directly to your main outs. You could simply use two 1/4" cables coming out of the Mackie main outs, to the Peavey stereo return in #1. That would give you back your #1 & 2 input channels on the Peavey.
Linking to busses directly together tends to give a better sound quality...using input channels can color the sound, depending on the quality of the preamps you're going through.
Yes I remember those old Peavey consoles, they had some truly unique and innovative features like the one you describe. It's great that you are keeping this older gear in the field - show us young guys how it used to be done 😅
Great video, very thorough and broken down correctly without all the BS. Thanks :)
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Forever....excellent and always thorough..... World Class..Tutorials .............Thanks Bruno...
+William Earney You're welcome, thanks for watching!
So comprehensive and thorough. Love it !
Thanks for watching!
The is one of the best educational video that I have seen on youtube. Great job and many thanks.
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Very thorough and very informative you put it into plain English which is great that should help anyone looking to mixers together enjoy your videos
+jeremiah french Thanks for watching!
Thank you, you answered so many questions I had in you tutorial, so good
You're most welcome, glad the video was helpful :)
Once again - millions of thanks, Bruno! Most useful video as usual! Thanks and regards from Russia!
You're welcome Alex, happy new year and have a great 2021!
Top video guys, really simple, easy to understand, explained a whole bunch of things that I have been struggling with thanks so much! :-)
thebookiesnemesis Great to hear, thanks for letting me know! Feel free to get in touch if you have any specific questions down the road :)
Thank you, very good information and very professional-!!
Thanks again, appreciate your efforts to help ( others ) Me and your quick response!
You're welcome Rick!
Learned a lot. i now understand my mixer
Very well explained. Hats off to your knowledge which explains with very clear technical details n slow vocals expression is appreciated. Thanks dear.
You're welcome Hemantha, glad the video was helpful!
Thanks glb production. My pleasure.
Thanks Bruno, you're the man. Cheers from Tijuana.
You're welcome!
You are awesome!!! I resolved my problem with this tutorial... Keep it up..
Great to hear that!
again... thank you for sharing
When I had to "buddy up" two mixers I made Passive Mixing adaptors with resistors inside the jacks and XLRs.
I wanted the foldback and FX sends to be parralled as well as just the main outs.
The resistor values will vary depending on the mixers being used, but unbalanced mixing is often done with 20k (or even 10k) for each hot line with a 10k from hot to ground.
Balanced passive mixing uses a resistor for each input hot and cold with another resistor across the hot cold line (roughly 1k for a 600R line).
Sounds complicated but really it's just connecting up Y adapters with resistors in them.
One some mixers, usually larger old-school types. you may have the luxury of Bus Inputs.
These are desighned specifically for marrying consoles and make the job Sooo much easier. 😉
Were those really old consoles? Modern mixers no longer have this impedance matching issue, thank goodness!
@@GLBProductions I'm talking spilcing the outputs together (main out outs And sends) rather than feeding into channel strips. Saved on channels, plus enabled full use of sends on both mixers.
But yes this was around 2002. I've done it with Soundcraft Studio 16-8-2 (Sends modded Pre-Fade for live), Behringer Euro32 32-8-2 and Studiomaster Gold 16-4-2
Oh I get it you were combining the mixer outputs - good to hear that you used a resistive network rather than simply hard-wiring the outputs together. I've seen that a lot and it can cause some really noisy problems!
Excellent video. Thank you!
You have so much knowledge! Thank you for sharing.
You're welcome!
I really need more of your video..
Feel free to watch all of them 😄
great video watched to the very end you taught me so much I am eternally in your debt well done Sir!
+Kineticartist Glad the video was helpful!
Man, you are the best!
No kidding, your tutorials are the best one in this area on yt, its like school teaching..you are so good, and thank you very much!!!
+Vladislav Roza Thank you, glad the videos have been helpful! I was a school teacher before I became a sound engineer so that probably explains the feel of the videos ;)
+GLB Productions excuse for deleyed reply.. wonderful, no kidding your videos are awesome! Al the best!! :)
Excellent video demonstration. Thank you. The details are fantastic.
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Thanks for all your help..very informative
Great half hour man ty!
You're welcome :)
Thank you, sir. This was utterly awesome.
+Luoyisi Shimisi You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Right on the money bruno well done for begin ers as well as advanced tecks
Thanks for watching Russell!
Excellent tutorial. Thank you!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Thanks alot man you made it very simple and perfectly clear and easy to follow. I wish I would have found your info. Vids a long time ago great information.
Welcome to the channel my friend! 🥰
GLB Productions, I thank you sir I did subscribe and I will be passing the information on to my friends.
That was an excellent tutorial, thank you very much.
StevieSpain D You're most welcome, thanks for watching!
Awesome video, great information! Thank you!!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
best tutorials...long live bro !!!
Thanks Dzemo!
Thank you so much for your time and wisdom!
+Marco Mizzoni You're welcome, thanks for watching! If you would like to support the channel please consider signing up to become a patron at www.patreon.com/glbproductions?ty=h Every little bit helps!
What a fantastic video!! A lot of useful information!!
Thanks for watching, James!