Caster Semenya: I have high testosterone, so what?
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- Опубликовано: 13 авг 2019
- The double Olympic champion Caster Semenya's battle with the athletics authorities rolls on as she continues to fight an IAAF regulation that would make her take testosterone-lowering medication. The South African athlete will not be able to defend her 800-metres title in September after the Swiss Federal Tribunal reversed a ruling that temporarily lifted testosterone regulations imposed against her. Speaking at a press conference in Johannesburg the 28-year-old said that 'when you're the best in the world, people get obsessed'.
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Let's think about this. Since the qualification to compete against females is one's testosterone level, then it should not matter what one identifies as.
I just heard about her. She should take the hormone-blocking therapy and not be selfish.
My issue is if she is banned from competing then so should LAUREL HUBBARD. They both have an unfair advantage when competing with women.
caster semenya, francine niyonsaba, and margaret wambui are not banned from competing in 800m as long as they take female hormones, but they refused. laurel hubbard takes female hormones. so that's the difference why one is banned and the other is allowed. in my opinion all xy chromosome athletes whether they are intersex or transgender (male to female) should compete together in their own separate category, or compete with the men, and absolutely not compete with biological women.
@@minavamp2811 ok but you don’t have to excuse that fuckery tho
I don’t like how they banned her because she is still a woman you are asking her to change herself to compete there is a man trans to woman who can compete so y can’t her that’s unfair
Two different sports. Two different governing bodies.
Don't disagree. Both should be restricted from competing as women. They are different organizations though.
This high testosterone is unfair to other female competitors. Her condition is not her fault, but it's still unfair in a competitive setting against female athletes.
He is a transgander
@@spaceshido6124 «Transgander» is not a word.
@@marclacasse1 yes i know i'm not dumb transgender is a human
@@spaceshido6124 I don't think she's transgender. She has a development condition where the testicules have not developed properly, are functional and inside her abdomen. That's why she's had a male puberty and male levels of testosterone in her blood. She's dishonest because she's hiding her medical file so people will still think she's a real woman.
If they can allow a transgender woman to compete in the Olympics, they should let her run. Not her fault her testosterone is naturally high.
He doesn’t even look or sound like a woman.
He has XY chromosomes, high testosterone levels, and no uterus.
So yes. He’s a man.
She is intersex. That means instead of having XX chromosomes she has XXY. That white chromosome is extra. But still at all, women’s normal testosterone levels are between 15 and 70. Men’s normal testosterone levels are 1,000 and up. She literally has 14 or more times the testosterone as a normal woman. And since testosterone is the gene, responsible for strength and speed, that becomes a problem when you’re a track athlete. No woman will ever win against you. Now because of training. Not because of technique. Not because of skill. But purely because of the hormone that gives you more strength. The fact that she is acting like it’s nothing as a problem.
A uterus doesn't make you a women.
She was assigned female at birth. It's not her fault the doctor messed up.
@@newjerseylion4804 Not her fault. But the fact that it is not her fault that the doctor messed up doesn’t mean that she should be allowed to compete as a woman when she has male chromosomes that put her at a tremendous Physical advantage over other women
How people are calling him a her and pretending like he's not a him is mind blowing. People really go great lengths just to be seen
She’s intersex so not the same
Happy to call her what ever she wants to be called only polite.
However, she's genetically a male and should only compete in the male categories. All her previous golds should be redistributed to those in silver place.
@@shineonyoucrazydiamond824 *he
@@shineonyoucrazydiamond824 Caster does have an intersex condition however, genetically Caster is a male and doesn’t belong in female sports.
😮😮 It right. By people constantly acting like they don’t see what they see is why the world is so messed up right now.
These people are willfully ignorant of the advantages these athletes have. There is a reason men and women do not compete in certain fields.
It's completely arbitrary, you realize that right? Like sports and records don't actually have any bearing or meaning in the real world. We just made it all up, there's no reason a 100m can't be 110m or 90m or something.
@@RikerLovesWorf I don't understand what your point is. The decision to separate male and female competitors wasn't an arbitrary decision like the length of a race. It was a decision made to keep the race fair and honest. Of course the records you make in sport have a bearing in the real world. Usain Bolt IS the FASTEST sprinter in the world. Tiger Woods did have one of the most dominant golfing winning spree's. Muhammed Ali was the greatest heavyweight boxer of his generation. It might not have any bearing on you, but these records inspire and motivate others.
@@RikerLovesWorf Hilarious how Marcus is quick to comment on how "arbitrary" the rules are to sporting events. What is arbitrary is the bizarre mental construction you have that makes you believe men can be women or vice versa.
She is intersex, not transgender
@@resegonchupetsang3268 I never claimed she was transgender. What I said is that she has an unfair advantage because she was born heterogametic (X and Y chromosomes) which caused her body to produce much, much more testosterone and less estrogen. Her hormonal makeup is completely different from any other woman competitor.
What does this person mean “so what?” . Fact is it is not fair to the other competitors. If the shoe was on the other foot you would be singing a different tune.
You are very ignorant. Caster did the work they needed to do to get where they needed to go. They didn't take drugs like most of the Russian professional athletes. I find it crazy that as a female you would try to dictate control over someone's body. Their body naturally has higher testosterone. Everyone has both hormones some people just have higher. Since you are so concerned with making things fair then every professional athlete must under go genetic testing including males. And if they find that a male has higher estrogens level they must not compete with men if we are following your logic. I also find it funny that she and other African athletes were singled out by white athlete that are genetic inferior in track and field because they ain't win.
@@ItsRosita boo hoo
She does have a lot of balls talking talking like that all that confident all that testosterone very man like I applaud that dude right there. 😃
@@ItsRositathem let her compete with men. She is both a woman and a man but chose the easier category because she knows she would win. Let her compete with men
@@anonymouspononymous9078 no actually she was assigned female at birth how can she choose something that she didn’t think needed to be chosen really
A man.
So what ?? You're a biological male with Y chromosomes ... you have a massive advantage over women's athletes .. your high testosterone through puberty allowed you to gain more muscle mass, higher bone density, strength and endurance that will not disappear with a post-puberty reduction in testosterone..
The fact you and the 2 other Y chromosome competitors in the women's 800m at Rio swept the medals is all you need to know ..
A third category is the only fair solution..
Uh dog from my knowlage shes biologily female
Also if a trans mtf athlete has taken estrogen long enough there mucle mass decreases to normal femel levels
@@bigboi6278 that does not negate all the years of testosterone from birth through puberty where you have a massive advantage with increased bone density, stamina muscle mass, etc ... this does not go away with ADT (androgen deprivation therapy) that reduces testosterone levels ...
@@bigboi6278 do some research dog
@@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507 shes intersex so your right on that one but im not taking abot adt. What many trans women take is strait up estorgine and testoterone blockers. Which decrease muscle mass and gives famale charateristics (such as breast and hips) even if they when through purberty as male. The only thing not effected is bone density.
He wouldn't be "the best in the world" if he was competing against other men.
Caster Semenya is not transgender she was just born this way.
@@mohamedsaidalabed6981 It’s an intersex, not a woman
Why are you using he for a woman
I hope u know she can give give birth. Dont think that u would say this, when u know it.
@@LMvdB02 because he is a he
I find the solution of taking testosterone lowering medication completely insufficient. Castor will still have the advantages of lifelong male testosterone levels as well as male muscle and build.
Well acttaly it would affect her mucle mass and tesoterone levels. For example many ftm athletes gain the same mucle mass as men depending how long theyve been on testoterone same for mtf they will lose mucle mass when on estorgine
That’s cause he’s a male.
@@bigboi6278 I didn't argue that. If testosterone were the great equalizer... you'd see women taking massive testosterone that can equal men's physical strength... they don't come close in any situation.
So you have to compete with man.
So then let’s talk about Ms Lia Thomas shall we ? Or Fallon fox? 💯 let’s keep it real if this woman can’t compete neither should trans woman
it’s a bit more complicated than that because trans women typically don’t have naturally high testosterone!
Er....this is a man, as are 'transwomen'.
@@TransoceanicOutreach interesting though, but this is actually incorrect. the term "woman" is socially constructed -- gender is not something that can be characterized based off of physical attributes. and if it could, Caster Semenya would still be considered a woman as would transgender women. overall you missed the mark buddy! dont feel bad though, it happens to everyone sometimes : - )
@@Skawrod hate to break it to but all words are “socially constructed” we don’t find new words in the ground. Aren’t you late for 8th booster shot appointment you better get going or you’ll miss whatever miserable form of public transit you use!
this one is complex coz she’s intersex , ppl like fallon are biological men breaking women skulls
It takes a lot of balls to be this brave
I'm *wheezing.*
She's cis
😂😂
Nope it just takes an agenda and someone paying him
She is 100% a woman. Now a intersex woman but still a woman. Her victories are 100 fair.
He is genetically male XY, anatomically male, and physiologically male.
Nope.
She was born as a female actually.
@@xD-zw6jn nope. this is a man. Are you blind?!!!!
and he feels male
it seems like the athlete doesn't have any sense of remorse for the other female athletes who lack that unfair biological advantage
-other-
@@efisgpr Caster is a hermaphrodite and is suffering from a rare genetic condition the commenter got it right the first time. We can not call caster a male at the same time following this reasoning. Caster has both male and female organs.
Athlete shouldn't have remorse for competitors.
@@Fyneskills how blind does one have to be to not realise what's going on here
@@honestguide4552 What is going on is natural. She was born that way. If Olympics can allow someone born as a man to switch genders and compete as a woman, then she should be allowed to 🏃.
XY chromosome = male
What is Swyer syndrome?!
@@mjtruth1039 Functioning Y chromosome (specifically the SRY gene) = male phenotype. Swyer syndrome is a mutation in the SRY gene so they have female phenotype.
@@shehannanayakkara4162 And you are aware that she could very likely have that, right?
@@mjtruth1039 No, Caster has 5a-reductase deficiency. He has a completely functional Y chromosome and went through male development and male puberty, and has similar testosterone levels to most males.
@@shehannanayakkara4162 Sources?
A lot of ignorance in these comments, people should read more about endocrinology before judging her.
EXACTLY
Then you're aware Castor has XY chromosomes and is thus a male.
k i r k please repeat that for the folks back in the back
her??????????????thats no her
HEEEEEEEEEEE IS NOT A SHEEEEEEE.
What I dont understand is that it is not a blanket rule. It is just a rules for the races that she competes in 🤔
He
@@booyabooya5162 she has female reproductive organs meaning she is a female.
@@booyabooya5162 she
Yeah.. You are delusional, lol. That is clearly a man. Can't even pass as a woman. Far too masculine to even try and pull the wool over someone's eyes.
You have the body of a biological male---so what????
so she still woman=> she can play every race of women
no she doesn't
Wrong biologically woman. Genetically male. She has intersex condition call androgen insensitivity.
@@newjerseylion4804 no He doesn't have androgen insensitivity. He has 5alpha reductase deficiency syndrome which make him completely male biologically and is totally different the androgen insensitivity syndrome.
Her biology is predominantly female. She has a uterus and an egg. Does this mean that males with low testosterone can also compete as woman? Do you even see your logic? Because there's none. You're just a sexist weirdo.
that aint no woman
she is a woman, but she had a genetic problem which means she has higher testosterone
@@NatureBadger2739 0 estrogen
Technically "she" isn't.. she has male DNA/Chromosomes
She’s intersex
@@AbdulKhader-786
Then why do they allow TRANSGENDER white men to participate in women's sports?
Eg swimming.
STRAIGHT UP RACISM..
That’s a straight 💯% male aka boy aka bud aka 👨 👨 👨
0:27 that chuckle. Remind me of you are dead wrong video 😂
🤣
Say what you like, she certainly has some balls.
have you seen?
she's brave ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Its not her fault, she was born this way.
🤣 oh kay, keine weiteren Fragen
vieles darf man heute kaum ungestraft sagen, also sag ich mal lieber nichts. An die Wettbewerberinnen: gegen wen soll Semenya gewinnen, wenn ihr einfach nicht an die Startlinie geht.
Ich hab sie in Berlin gesehen und es war ein völlig ungleicher Wettbewerb. Ich würde als Läuferin nicht gegen Caster antreten, es ist ungerecht und eigentlich könnte man nun auch Doping erlauben.
Remember the Press Sisters
It is a muscle growth and strength advantage unless treated before puberty. The percentage of these athletes is small, yet drawing attention and must be addressed. What if women started injecting testosterone to be equal to this athlete? It is wiser to create a new lane than to disrupt the entire system. So, create a new lane for these athletes to compete against each other. What would this be called though? We have Special Olympics already. Could it be called Their Olympics? Maybe. I hope that this system evolves. This is a real topic that will play out over the next two or three Olympic Game Committee discussions.
Change official categories into low and high test, instead of men and women. They all do drug tests on high levels anyway.
@@MissMoontree No one is going to eliminate men and women to satisfy this. That is too catering to this issue.
@@rebeccarambo2893 Think for a second. For once in your life, think. This is not fair to regular women.
@@detective2221She... Is a cis woman, in no way is this unfair.
@@Dawg.Wit.what do you mean by cis thanks.
He seems very cocky.
Because he hasn’t been humbled yet. He’s lucky this isn’t 20 years ago because he would’ve been forced to compete with men back then.
If you are XY & you are anatomically male, then you are male. When ladies line up, does anyone have trouble identifying the man? So, why does he desire to compete against females? Consider that in 1912 the fastest time for the male 800 meter sprint was 1:51.09, whereas Caster Semenya's PR is 1:54.25. The point is that Caster Semenya would not even be the fastest male at the local high school.
This is blasphemy
it's obvious why. sickening and pathetic really
She is intersex. That means instead of having XX chromosomes she has XXY. That white chromosome is extra. But still at all, women’s normal testosterone levels are between 15 and 70. Men’s normal testosterone levels are 1,000 and up. She literally has 14 or more times the testosterone as a normal woman. And since testosterone is the gene, responsible for strength and speed, that becomes a problem when you’re a track athlete. No woman will ever win against you. Now because of training. Not because of technique. Not because of skill. But purely because of the hormone that gives you more strength. The fact that she is acting like it’s nothing as a problem.
You also have XY chromosomes, which confers many of the athletic advantages of being phenotypically male. I keep hearing trans advocates argue that there is no competitive advantage to being trans versus biological. So it would seem the solution is simple. There should be one category for those people who are phenotypically female and feel that it is unfair to have to compete against those with male phenotype advantages, and another "open" category for everyone else. That should satisfy trans advocates who argue there is no significant competitive advantage among genders.
The mannerisms are like a man, the expressions and of course the outer appearance. The name even sounds masculine. It would be interesting to know what other men think.
Basically a man
0:56 Confession
Umm... thats straight up a guy lol.... wow
There should just be a third class of Olympics....one for intersex and trans folks. This would solve the issue.
And one for polar bears, don´t forget the polar bears!
most manly woman ever
That’s the point of being intersex, there are women with masculine traits and men with feminine traits. It’s not even natural, it’s a mutation.
He is 100 % man with XY chromosome.
He is a thief of women’s sport and rights.
What a con!
She should have been assigned male at birth not female.
"THEY say i have advantage."
NOOOOOOOO! They must be completely wrong 🤣
Caster semenya: I have high testosteron, so what?! The Answer is : You are a man but competing in woman category
@Casey Avery having higher testosterone and XY chromosomes do make you more of a man than a woman
Casey Avery Having XY chromosomes does.
@@arrownoir Not necessarly, XY androgen insensitivity for example.
@@i.cs.zamodits xy with ais can't use the testosterone. 5ard can which caster has can use the testosterone and so he is a man!!!
@@charityfields3075 There is partial andrigyn insensitivity, and missing SRI. She is asigned female at birth, she isn't a man.
That big guy should be in jail.
I am scared to know what a man is if this is a woman.
He is 100 % man with XY chromosome.
He is a thief of women’s sport and rights.
idk why people in the comments section are acting like we aren't living in 2020 and are bullying this woman because she has androgen insensitivity. Your concern may land on whether or not she should be running with female athletes with a lower testosterone level than hers, but understand that she's also a human being and deserves respect like everyone else. stop calling her "he" or a "man" because she clearly identifies as a woman.
come on. basic human decency.
there should be different classes of testosterone like their are different weight classes.
It's called "Sandbagging".
The only one getting bullied is the Biological Females getting destroyed by this Man in competition.
Imagine you work your whole life to have a Male destroy you in Sports
"Dude runs with the ladies".... Steven Tyler
I am grateful to him for the little conscience that he gave a chance to the Russian athlete, letting her to be first
Which part of you is woman dude..
Her genitalia (kind of). She’s hermaphrodite, so not fully man or woman. Her body definitely leans to the manlier side, but in her childhood she was more female. So she was raised as such, which had a huge impact on which of the sexes she truly identifies as. Your formative years are the most important for your identity.
That is the most masculine woman I have ever seen in my life, and I'm not exaggerating.
He is 100 % man with XY chromosome.
He is a thief of women’s sport and rights.
Top lad
Man. A man.
I literally tried so hard to make sense of what she/he was saying
Right
Turn on the captions genius
So people will also have to try hard to make sense of what you are saying- as not everyone will understand your accent. For the record, her pronoun is she.
@@HA-ot5ev nope. That's a male.
It's an accent, her english is probably better than the average american's. Just pointing that English and American folks also simply have an accent, which is harder to understand for people from e.g. Australia and Africa.
How come there are no trans men (born female transition into male) competing in the male leagues if it’s all just about hormones 🤔. I wanna see some trans men in male MMA and the NFL that will some real “equity” lol
its impossible. the only issue with transgenderism is olympic sports.
so you have spotted the elephant
NOT TRANS
HE NEVER ASKED HIMSELF WHY HE DOESN T HAVE THE PERIOD IF HE S A WOMAN? he doesn t have any shame!
This is a cis woman with high Testosterone.
He sounds and looks manlier than me.
She
ur not funny
@@sullyo6068 "she" has the same chromosomes as me.
@@funofboredom and.... There is no need to misgender her if she identifies as a women out of spite
@@sullyo6068 biological men shouldn't be competing in women's sports.
She is between male and female these people CANNOT compete with either.
He has XY chromosomes so that makes him male.
She has swyer syndrome.
When are they going to ban males from female athletics?
If he wants to compete, let him compete in the male category....
Those people feel so entitled , selfish and arrogant !
Cheater that's all you will be ..
SHE IS THE BEST THo
@@actominator6742 Plenty of guys who are better so no, she is by far not the best :)
Whats this guy talking about
Cause that's unfair to the women you compete against. So what?
Isn’t the whole idea about sports being the best most athletic person wins, though?
@@mjtruth1039 Yes, but only in the right category and Caster clearly has an unfair advantage as a male who has gone through male puberty.
@@richalderson6069 She was literally assigned female at birth.
I really wanted to defend you....but how? You're a WHOLE MAN. And you better NOT pull the race card.
she's intersex. so she's the gender she chooses: female
I see why it is difficult to let her compete with female starters that did not have the advantage of growing up with male hormones and the physical advantages of that. I really do not know the most ethical solution, and I kind of think there is no right answer to that.
She doesn't have male hormones. It's higher than average for a woman, but lower than a man's..Definitely lower than a male athlete's.
She is a female she was born with 2 x chromosome. This rule is just highly sexist and racist.
But they allow trans man who were literally man
@@chungus8078 XY
@@MJ31579 lol she looks and sounds like a dude.
Looks and sounds like a man
And to no one's surprise, ''she'' has a wife.
she boy everywhere expect one spot
not funny
Actominator It’s the truth, the truth needs to be embraced
She has a vagina tho
@@thechristanapostate5563 that’s what they said
@@thechristanapostate5563 "she" has xy chromosomes and balls, No ovaries , no uterus ,no period ,no breast etc.
This guy is insane
It's a girl
@@lindokuhlemthombeni3453Please be quiet
Der überhöte Wert ist und bleibt ein Nachteil für alle anderen Sportlerinnen. Punkt
How does her body work with that much testosterone?
Better than her competition's lol
Its man, it works like other men. He even produces semen and everything.
@@Giorno. she has female genitalia,..
@@Giorno. caster semenya fathered a child
So it gives you a genetic advantage against other women 😂
And a genetic disadvantage against other men. She just chose the easier option and I don’t blame her tbh
And they say "in no way we are behind men"
She's an absolute disgrace to sport, just cause they let her get away with competing doesn't mean she should.
She should get a job training athletes or something as their are no categories that she fits in to.
He. He is an xy male and he knows it
@@danabella29 *she
@@flatarthur3161 Nope. Caster Semenya is a biological male with an intersex condition. That is why he lost his case. Cry all you want.
@@danabella29 She's female.
@@danabella29 Actually she was assigned female at birth and has XY chromosomes. So She is a woman with an intersex condition.
Homie out there simply masquerading as a female athlete to pay the bills.
Wtf
😁😁😁😁
Clearly a man
All the high testosterone people should compete with each other it makes no sense and it is unfair to say all the woman competing are made up the same when they really aren't! So those with tbis problem should race together they need to make a special race for women who are like men, it is unsure to be ok with this amd force it on normal functioning woman to just accept it when samenya has an ADVANTAGE!!!!!! it's common sense!
He is 100 % man with XY chromosome.
He is a thief of women’s sport and rights.
Man
I would like to see him in a bathing suit
He look like a cross between Bill Cosby and Shaquille O' Neal
Juwanna man
Melissa varies
This chick really has balls
What are the odds of her name being an anagram for yes a secret man? we are being mocked
Its like the character dash from the incredibles wanting to compete in sports, she will only be the best by a little bit.
What a foul man. Vile cheat.
She should say she is a transgender they would surely let her compete with no problem
so he competed as a lil boy in school?
but as a grown man he's competing as a woman🤔
😮🙃😡🌎💰
😳🤷🏾♂️did you just say so what
“Of course I do have it. So what?” That’s something a man would say. Meaning he s ready to throw hands if you got a problem with him.
He has XY chromosomes
Few years from now....lets just wait for science to develop much more clearly in this field ... but this doesn't seem right in many ways
No what isn't right? All the women cheated out of medals and opportunities for over ten years!! All their hard work and dreams flushed down the toilet. But no one ever has sympathy for women. In a few years from now maybe the real truth and all the lies and corruption surrounding this and other intersex athletes will come to light but probably not too much money involved
What an intelligent and confident human being 👌👌👌
You mean misogynist con artist pos.
Intelligent? He thinks he's a woman. Clearly not that smart.
Yeah he is.
DNA test and we know.
He is 100 % man with XY chromosome. Already tested .
He is a thief of women’s sport and rights.
Life's getting oh so confusing.
YOURE A MEN HAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAGAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAGAHAHAGAHAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Bro how did you manage to misspell laughing lol
"when you are best in the world" well you clearly aren't the best in the world that's why you did what you did
Thats 100% a man all day long ...but since everyone is regarded as equal these days ..women should be competing against men in all sports. Otherwise we are not equal
Then why was she assigned female at birth?
@@intcheese I don't know I wasn't there ..was you there ...or is it just hearsay
@@pouriksmith4322 Do you think men can have vaginas?
Sure Caster... You're "the best in the world" at cheating
Weird dude there
That a man
its Doping...........
He is 100 % man with XY chromosome.
He is a thief of women’s sport and rights.
It is the loghter for me. It not real hahaha