For me, it's Jordan Peterson, for meaning in life, Jocko Willink for Duty to others and Kevin Samuels for the importance of marriage and responsibility. Thanks for giving me Goggins, I'm now curious as to what he has to say.
@Me me Not sure the side effects of Benzos are exactly 'well known'. You should have a reasonable expectation that your doctor will not do you any harm when prescribing medication. Unfortunately they are all too often incentivised by drug companies to get patients addicted.
Unconfuse yourself . Greek philosophers went to war with the military. He means that the military needs to be educated in history and literature. Great generals were educated!!!
Sounds boring but I’ve been cleaning my room and taking responsibilities in my life one day and one corner in my place at a time. Thanks to these two men. God bless you all.
@@stevenhargraves2460 Not directly of course. Jocko would never want to kill innocent Women or children. Some Women may not be innocent either. He's talking about collateral damage in the fog of war. War is not a surgical endeavour. It's messy and there are a lot of unintended consequencies. One has to accept that, as a byproduct of going to war.
@@Justyburger Accept it when it’s your home being bombed by the good old navy seals. War can never be accepted. It is not awesome!!! It is hell on earth- for some, but for you it is acceptable. For you it is a movie. It is Bush, it is Rumsfeld, and Cheney and Jocko killing people for what reason. For money and their political gain.
I feel that is still romanticizing trouble... you dont want children that grow up with no troubles.. that breeds soft humans... a little adversary goes a long way. Humans love to also play the hero.. which is fine. But sometimes we have to allow our children to also do their part.
History isn't boring. Teachers who can't communicate effectively are boring. Sitting still in a sedentary environment for eight hours a day is boring. Being force fed facts to remember instead of being led through the thought process of how to uncover a deeper meaning is boring. History isn't boring.
It can be taught well though. My partner is German and they have a culture of taking history very seriously....the classes she described were really dynamic and intense, full of debate etc as it should be
History Is definitely not boring. My favorite class in school was a history class with my favorite teacher in it. Good teachers and fundamental to effective schooling!
Yeah kinda, but sometimes he looks like he's about to stutter and tries to pause mid-way to not allow it to happen. A slight hesitation in his speech ability for sure.
Joe Rogan introduced these 2 men to my radar about 4 years ago. They helped me change my life. I still review Peterson's psychology lectures from UT twice a year.
They touch directly on my of my very favorite concepts of reality that is summed up by a quote by G.K. Chesterton. “ Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell the children that dragons can be killed.”
These two men changed my life in more ways than I ever though possible. I went from an angry delinquent teen with no goals or respect to a law student with fantastic relationships with my parents. Thank you Jocko and Jordan ☺️
anyone can think what they want, and not all parts or people in the government are "evil". doing these "us vs them" kind of think is ridiculous. the most important part and the only part that's valid of what you said is, those who think. people need leadership, and governance is a part of how we handle that.
And me. It's so good to see him looking stronger physically and you can hear that he is sounding stronger mentally - or that may be because he always sparkles when he thinks aloud. If that doesn't sound too weird! He is one of the most interesting human beings I've ever come across.
I worked with a gentleman who’d been a slave in modern Africa as a child. He came to me and told me the single biggest skill he wanted to obtain when he came to America was language and literacy. He’s better read than I am and an incredible human being.
Your coworker is not alone, I grew in Guatemala during the late 70's, 80's and we were in a civil war. And coming to America was the best thing that ever happened to me. I have my experience of my childhood and appreciate my Adulthood in America. And language and literacy is extremely huge part of an adult education. Thank you for sharing...
@A Well yes and no, in terms of knowledge, not wisdom or experience, itll be harder for them to obatin it. However, in a wisdom/experience sense I agree with you.
I think we can trust public education systems to take care of that for now on. Well, I'm from a small county with schools that teach common core. In the Bible belt where there is 10 churches in any square mile. We all read where I'm from, except the few and far between challenged ones.
The most profound conversation I’ve ever witnessed between Captain America and the Red Skull! One of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Truly made my day.
Although the comparison is comedic it's a great indication that people with "opposite" ideals, who are on the "other side of the fence" (navy seal vs intellectual) still have an incredible amount in common. Everyone does. This nonsense tribalism is tearing people apart. If a navy seal and a Harvard grad can have a 2.5 hour conversation and immensely respect eachother wtf are we doing
@@filthycasualwarrior7118 I find it it somewhat interesting but alarming common in today's society) that you think a Navy Seal and and an "intellectual" have "opposite" ideals and are on the "other side of the fence". You may want to reflect on what led you to that perception prior to viewing this? Indeed, the constant drumbeat of "tribalism" is counterproductive and diminishing our societal progression, and it's instantiated daily in our media and educational institutions.
@@JordanBPeterson Thank you for all your work. I cant say you changed my life but its been great to have you for a conversation. Even if indirect. These things are so rarely spoke but so commonly thought. As we say here in Ireland, Keeper lit !
@@mobiusraptor7 Have you ever watched the Movie "Gladiator" with Russell Crowe? If not, watch it! I feel like we are repeating the history of Rome. Yes the US was once a beacon of light for the world until it itself became corrupt and contemptible and then it lost power. Mob rule and the spectacle of politics are well put in that film. Watch it tonight!
I'm an adult and I liked Jockos "kid's books" as well. I don't get why you wouldn't be able to "get those published nowadays", as they implied in the video.
Will be 61 in August 2021, lived a reasonably exciting life, these guys podcasts are so inspirational. Left 28yr career in pharma, took 3 Minimum wage jobs and back to college, qualified as men's counsellor in Oct last and starting my own biz, (in service to the young men who seem so adrift here in Northern Ireland), very very soon. I cannot thank these two wonderful human beings, who will never meet me in person, for my daily inspiration throughout, to get my act together, face my dragons and not give in.. 💜🙏 to Peterson/Jocko
Well done, James! Might be time for your own RUclips channel to extend your own thoughts and life lessons to others. Consider me a 'subscriber in waiting'....!!
It hurts me to say but I can see a difference in Jordan from 3 or 4 years ago and now, the sacrifices he’s made have taken their toll, but the amazing good he’s done for me and millions others, shall not make that sacrifice be made in vain, we love you Jordan!!!
Yes, there's a huge difference, I noticed this a couple months ago. I don't know if it's for better or worse, or if that even matters but I know he's a different man.. I think anyone who fights such a war and just hardly makes it back to the people they love is bound to be a different person. Regardless, much love to him
he looks great to be honest. Like a quality built instrument that has really seen it's use, but the usage only validates it's existence and the service it has provided and still does, better than ever it seems. All of this in human form too boot. Not made from iron and wood and whatnot.
I emphatically disagree. Experience is the ultimate educator. The wisdom that Jordan Peterson has gained is priceless. His understanding of the human mind has broadened and given him the ability to reach more people. I do not necessarily enjoy this term, but he has truly been “enlightened” in so many ways. It takes such diligent time and effort to know the REAL truth and I see this understanding deepening in the mind of Jordan Peterson as time goes on. Maturity and simplicity go hand-in-hand.
I'm now 33 and have never considered myself to have role models that I really look up to. Watching and listening to these two men speak authentically in this way has me thinking these two are truly worthy of the label.
I have to agree. The people who are supposed to be male role models in my life rather very much failed in that regard. It's hard to extend trust in the advice and example of others because of that too. But if I have to choose? Yeah, I'm going to pick men like this, who are real men.
Couldn't help to check your profile and lo and behold! I see presidente Carduz in you channels xD. Greetings from a member in the concepción sur Mission brother! The future is as bright as your faith!
Time Stamp Subject 0:00 Intro and Biography of Jocko Wilink (JW) 3:00 JW's Podcast origins, audience, purpose 8:30 Why JW reads harsh literary passages on podcast 9:30 Phobia therapy, resilience, and gratitude 12:40 Podcast with a Vietnam War POW 14:30 Resonance of war as an existential challenge/opportunity 18:00 Jordan Peterson (JP) to JW: How do you make moral sense of Iraq war? 19:30 Why JW posts his wake-up times 21:35 Discipline Equals Freedom origins in Navy Seal training/Team 25:30 Talent versus/with work ethic 27:15 The value of goals as a code of behavior 28:15 JW's childhood interest in the military 31:35 JP's childhood snow/dirt fights 32:45 JP's father's gun artishanship/marksmanship 35:30 JP's tomato wars 36:55 JW on life in the SEAL teams 38:20 JW joining SEAL teams after training 39:30 JW goes to University of San Diego 39:50 Why JW majored in English 41:00 The essential importance of writing skills 44:30 The essential importance of reading skills 54:15 Neuropsychology 55:50 Cognitive decline 57:00 JW declares JP wrong about cognitive psych (!) 58:40 Education system inadaquately pushes reading, how helpful it is 1:06:20 JW's university experience 1:09:00 Post college, post 09/11 deployment 1:15:00 Gathering intelligence in Iraq 1:18:00 JP asks JW about morality of Iraq war 1:23:00 JP asks JW USA's current involvement in Middle East 1:24:00 Two types of will necessary for war 1:28:00 Why Iraq after 09/11 1:29:00 Strategic purpose of order to work with Iraqi soldiers 1:31:40 Responding to unrealistic orders 1:35:00 Responding to unreasonable orders 1:39:18 Price of not acting--Rwanda 1:39:50 My Lai Massacre 1:41:00 Baghdad's torture chambers 1:41:40 JW's Books 1:42:40 JP to JW: What's your mission now? 1:44:00 What makes a good SEAL? 1:45:00 Power versus reciprocity 1:48:00 "You take care of your swim buddy." 1:50:00 Power versus reciprocity 1:54:00 Importance of trust and alignment 1:59:00 Putting mission and team above self 2:01:00 Why JW Clothing - Ghis 2:07:00 Why JW Clothing - Jeans 2:08:00 Delteriousness of ignorant contempt 2:11:30 Academics versus businessmen 2:14:00 Contempt leads to violence 2:14:30 JW's Kids Books 2:17:00 Why JW started a publishing company 2:18:20 Most rewarding part of JW's work 2:21:00 Approach to bullying 2:25:00 JW's upcoming novel 2:27:00 Concluding thoughts
I grew up for the most part without a father figure in a bad household, so i never actually learned things about the world and what to do and what not to do. now i am in my twenties, trying to develop myself and find my place in society and these two are teaching me so much values that i had otherwise never learned. For this i salute you both!
And I salute you for being aware of that and working to be better than you are today, although you already seem to be good, just because of your awareness, your will to progress and your pursuing to be the best version of yourself!
I am about to be 40 and still listening and trying to learn, as hard as it may be! If your trying to better yourself than your doing something right! I hope in the year plus since you posted this you have made progress even if you don't see it yet..I find it hard to believe you haven't! Your going to be a monster, in a good way! The way Dr. Peterson describes, go get it! I wish u nothing but success! You can do it!
As a 22 year old with not the most ideal father figure, the amount of gratitude and appreciation I have for these two cannot be understated. I always end up tearing up from just raw appreciation to live in a time to be able to find people like this that live hundreds if not thousands miles away and yet can make a huge impact on me. and hopefully I can pass along a little of them throughout my life. Much much love Jordan thank you for everything, I thank God every day you made it out of the of the hell you occupied, and honestly hate to imagine the suffering that came to you. but for you to come back, motivated as ever... You don't have to be this good, this strong, this hard working, this consistent but you are. For me, and for everyone else out there starving for these encouraging words of wisdom and these tools for operating in the world. You have been the biggest influence on my life, and I hope that stays consistent as I cannot think of a better role model and aim. Thanks for everything JP ❤️
Try to be the best not just for you in the short term, but also for your sons into the future. That will require the very best of you unlike anything else you meet in the world.
And here I am in Greece, wandering if these guys over there accusing him of being a super-Nazi, can even understand English. Keep it up Dr., you inspire us all!
Everyone is being accused of being a 'Nazi' by someone these days, and everything is racist...including gravity, nature, and the wind. The terms are losing all meaning. Those who sling those words quickly as labels or insults against others are demonstrating very basic Psychology 101 called _Projection_ . *When we point at something, three fingers are pointing back at us.* %-) Cheers.
You can tell right away who has never heard one word Jordan Peterson has ever spoken or written from the original source. Those are the people who call him some sort of Nazi or alt-right polemicist. They are also the ones who tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about while he is revealing the knowledge he has gathered in a 40-year academic career. You know, the same people that tell you that going to college is really important?
Listening to you guys got me to lose over 60 lbs and join the navy. Im not a Seal necessarily, but i am happy im doing something i can be proud of. Been out of bootcamp for 2 months now and i am finally on a good path in my life.
@Dr. Jordan Peterson God damn it dude, you're back again. Stop trying to hustle money out of people in someone else's name, it's not the right way to act.
I spent the last 48 hours obsessing over Jocko, and I’ve been a long term Jordan Peterson fan.... I can’t believe my 2 fav ppl come together.... just waoh
This is the happiest and calmest I’ve seen Jordan in recent memory and I honestly think it’s because Jocko is so great at creating a simple dynamic of how he thinks and lives his life. The joy Jordan has reliving his younger years of play and experiences is probably a welcome break he needed from the past few years of torment and scrutiny. Jocko never disappoints and this episode made me appreciate him that much more that he could make Jordan smile and laugh... two great men... a warrior and a intellectual sharing the same wavelength for 2 hours!
because jocko dont judge peterson like tv guest or other people. he is working and work means listening and taking productive words from peterson without prejudice
@@bperez8656 Definitely both intelligent & well read men. Love listening to Jocko’s podcasts because of his humility, humour and his positive eloquence.
Peterson constantly interrupting Jocko and not allowing him to complete a single thought was unlistenable after the first 20 minutes or so. This was a failure as far as I'm concerned.
The best part of this video was stumbled upon by Jocko saying “you’re not going to ask why I was an English major?” And Jordan treating that seriously but with humor. Very cool 👌
He didn't need to ask because it's actually in Jocko's book which is on Petersons list. I'm glad they went through it though, it's more cool to an already cool story!
I'mma reply to you, just cuz I wanna check with a more regular viewer than me, what's your opinion on him after the treatment? It sounds to me like he's not 100%, but seems like nobody is talking about that. Thoughts?
@@Timhttrsn Jordan has talked about it in one of these podcasts. I’m not exactly which one it is but I’m pretty sure it was the one with Brett Weinstein. He says something along the lines of only operating at about 20% and that waking up is really hard. That’s about all I remember sorry. And if that’s the wrong podcast I’m sorry.
The reason why Jocko became an English major is the most selfless thing I’ve heard in a while. Very valuable lesson, help others succeed, good things happen.
@@cl5193 the part I am referring to is when he said he wants to be able to write good performance reviews and communicate in detail the actions of others so they would be more likely to get rewards and recognized for their good actions.
@@jaredmello Being a good seal means far more than helping your soldiers (not teammates - wtf). He could have answered the question with "helping my soldiers," but he didn't. He answered, "to be a good seal," which encompasses a multitude of qualities and skills. Choosing English as a major added to that ideal in several ways, as he explained. Writing reviews for his men was only one - not the reason. You don't understand semantics.
@@steven5054 Your cynic definition doesn't do him justice and you know that. If that's really what you see when listening to this guy i'm sorry for you.
It's easy to be humble when you know you're elite and surrounded by other elites. True Alphas like him don't need to flex on people because their switch can happen with a snap of the finger. It's rare af but absolutely cool to see.
Two people from wildly different backgrounds that end up at nearly the same place is fascinating. And both with a deep affection for people and a desire for them to truly live their best lives. Jocko and JBP's talks are the best.
@@brennanmcdonnell9343 😂 I love Rogan but for some reason that doesn't really attract me...perhaps it's because Jocko and Jordan still have hair on their heads and I like that...I'm shallow, I know.
I was a Chief in the Navy, because of that I understand why Jocko became an English major. In the military and in life as a whole, your own mastery of language can take you and those around you to places you couldn’t imagine. You increase your chances of becoming truly powerful. Writing and communication can not only dictate your path but potentially the path of a nation.
@@AdamA-pm3yn Apparently you don’t understand the language properly because I did corroborate with what Jocko said and how he said it. I also added some of my own thoughts because they added value to what Jocko said about writing and communication. Writing and communication are particular degrees of the life experience. Or I could just say “what he said “.
@@AdamA-pm3yn look brother. You, me or anyone with half a brain can dissect what everyone says and find a fault in what someone has said. Especially when talking about any complex issue facing society or an individual. Meaning.... You cannot truly understand where someone is coming from or the degree at which their understanding of a subject is without hearing more than just a couple sentences. Meaning... instead of trying to correct someone’s wording because it doesn’t mesh with your view of how it should be written but you can agree with the intended meaning then just simply say cool. There’s more important things to disagree on. And yes. I do believe that my perspective of being in the military and especially the fact of me being a Chief carries a different weight to the discussion based off of my experience not only in life but the amount of individuals that I’ve interacted with over the years. That’s one of the benefits of being in the military that most individuals will not experience. Meaning.... I’ve dealt with a wider spectrum of people than most people. Served with and led tens of thousands of people from most walks of life. Met and talked to probably around a million people in my lifetime. Visited 67 countries and 42 of the 50 states. My opinion is my opinion and you have to take what anyone says with a grain of thought. It’s why a few cultures revere their older population because of respect and wisdom based on experience. Now to your point, just because someone is transsexual that doesn’t mean that I hold their opinion to a high regard when it comes to them saying it’s ok for everyone to do it. Or that a child should be able to decide what they want to be. I base my opinion on that experience as a Chief who dealt with thousands of young adults that were willing to put their lives on the line but didn’t know who they were themselves. A few of the things you speak of are major contributors to why not only America but the rest of the world is still jacked up. Just like anything in life. You get what you put into it. Meaning... We as a species need to re evaluate what we put into children. Human beings aren’t made to thrive in this type of world. This type of world leads to destruction instead of balance. The haves against the have nots.
@@AdamA-pm3yn You don’t know me dude. Secondly, just because you can arm yourself with a vocabulary that doesn’t mean you can think. Your last comment shows me that you don’t know what your talking about if your summarization is that I’m a post modernist. No where in anything that I’ve said could lead you to that conclusion. Meaning.... You don’t know shit if that’s what you believe. Meaning.... if that’s what you got from what I said then it brings into question your other opinions, thoughts and ideas because your way off brother. Carry on shipmate.
@@AdamA-pm3yn here I’ll help you understand. I’m a Chief. Yes I believe my understanding of certain things is at a higher degree than many people regarding certain things that I’ve experienced more than other people. You call me a post modernist because I said that I have a higher level of understanding about something or my group has a higher understanding about that something. Correct? You have an understanding of what a post modernist is based in part on what you’ve learned about what a post modernist is. Basically your taking someone else’s idea of what a post modernist is slapping it on people and then patting yourself on the back thinking that you understand when you don’t. Correct? What I’m saying is that you don’t “really understand “ what a post modernist is. This is why you don’t understand what your talking about.... I’m a Chief and yes there is 10s of thousands of Chiefs that don’t understand to the degree of what I understand about knowledge and communication. Try looking at it from this perspective. Take the NFL, there’s thousands of Athletes that played in the NFL. There’s different levels of understanding in the NFL community when it comes to what it takes to be the best mentally and physically in the NFL. Doesn’t take away from the others. It also doesn’t mean that people that played in the NFL are the only ones that know. There’s just certain people that know and understand more. I don’t know where I fall in the spectrum of understanding when it comes to military members. That doesn’t take away from the fact that I have or that my group has which is not a group that’s controversial in today’s world. If anything, my group is comprised with people from every spectrum that the United States has to offer. Many of us haven’t drank the cool aid and understand that it’s what’s inside the individual instead of their gender, skin color or any other label that people use in order to put one group above the other. Meaning.... I’m just a dude that understands too much but at the same time I understand that I don’t know shit myself. There’s too much to know and there’s even more that I don’t know that I should understand it because I haven’t came into contact with it. Meaning.... You don’t know what you don’t know. Do I know what I’m talking about? Yes and no is the answer but no I’m not a post modernist.
@@AdamA-pm3yn that’s a cute saying. What fruit have I bared? You talk in circles but don’t realize it apparently. You have no insight into who I am and what I’ve accomplished in life but you know the fruit I bare? Want to compare our fruits? I can say with 100% conviction that I’ve impacted thousands in a way that you wouldn’t understand unless you were there. So yes. My original statement that “I was a Chief in the Navy, because of THAT I understand why Jocko became an English major “ was definitely a correct statement. Because of THAT thing, my level of understanding about certain things is because of THAT.
Hearing Jocko and Jordan geek out about words and their power is the best thing ever. I do it and people look at me like I'm nuts. I'm an elementary and middle school English teacher, and I tell my students all the time that I'm a Word Nerd. I have several quotes about the power of language around my classroom and refer to them often.
I have always had a neurological condition that makes it impossible for me to speak nouns sometimes, the only way I was able to overcome this was to read everything, including the dictionary and the thesaurus. That provides me with other words to fill the gap in my sentences. I was often picked of and or beaten by my fellow students and my sibling for using big words and shit. I haven't read a book in 20 years. As my life got harder I didn't feel books had any of the answers, plus, since I have always been sensitive to way things are written, I could most things boring. Along those lines whenever I have to take a test for a job, there are never answers that fall within the parameters of what I would actually do. Hence, I couldn't in truth answer the questions the way they required. Just saying. Words mean things, makes me smile since I quite often don't understand why they are being used when people use them.
@@summan41man so what comes first, the meaning of something that requires articulation or just random sounds that then become attributed to a meaning? Either way many words change form and meaning therefore negating what the genesis was in the first place. Chicken? Egg? Whether I understand your point of view or not, or I choose to follow your direction to try harder, it doesn't change the fact that most people seem to not understand many of the words they use. Have a nice day.
Once they got going, this was one of the most engaging talks the Doc has had since the return. Excellent conversation. Inspired to take my reading more seriously!
Jocko is like the tough Dad you needed and jordan Peterson is the compassionate Dad you needed. Hearing both of them build off one another really helped me understand better where I want to take my self mentally emotionally and physically.
That’s cause he’s Albertan. Hardest workers in Canada and the most conservative province, hard work with conservative values breeds success. He grew up in a fairly tough town, if no one here understands how tough the rig workers are and how brutal they are working Canadian winters, they oughta meet some of those men. Anyway, his town would’ve been entirely oil rig workers and young men would’ve flocked there for the high paying job of rigs. I’m so proud of this man and I must say he’s saved my life or at the bare minimum he’s put the vector in the right direction even if the angle isn’t perfect.
@J W Gotcha. When you said illegal, I was confused. It seems that it would have been illegal if this protocol had been conducted in the US or Europe but since it was done in Asia, it wouldn't be. Is that how you see it as well?
I honestly think that Jordan Peterson being able to do these podcasts is giving him life week by week. Going by all that he has said and all that happened in prior podcasts and with the akathisia, the inability to work was draining Jordan horribly. But now he can do something, and further clean up his own room after the mess the side effects of getting off of prescription benzodiazepines (and life) caused.
My husband and I have been waiting to watch this together since the day we saw it drop. With 5 kids, it took us some time to find time. We are so excited to listen to and watch these two converse.
If I can say, Dr. Peterson looks better now than he did for several months prior to his abrupt disappearance. His face is stricter somehow, and his eyes are "stronger." Thank you, Professor, for coming back to us.
@J W he never said he didn't understand the possibilities of the drugs. He trusted his doctors best judgment re: risks and benefits. You sound like a petty little person. I wonder what could be found in your closet that would undermine your arguments.
How do you put sufficient adventure into peace. Man. As a Marine, that's something I wrestle with every day and didn't even know it until right this second. Wow.
Too much power in one podcast. But honestly.. I think goggins is far more honest and raw than peterson. I feel like goggins is directly piercing my soul telling me to do better, be better
@@hyacinthemacias1518 I doubt Goggins and Jocko will ever link up like that. They don’t have similar views at all with some of the things they talk about. It’d be dope tho.
@MrBlankie05 0 do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement. Yes these guys are wise, but your teachers were doing the best they could, if they were ALL shitty teachers, think for a moment, that was the best they could do! You had the capacity to understand that their work was not enough and you can aim to be better because they showed you how not to be. -something JBP might reply with
@@technetiumsoul , no. If teachers had done their job people would not have to hear Peterson spout common sense. I don't know what's more impressive, the fact that an educator figured out what his peers were doing and tried to correct it, or the man's capacity to commercialize it.
!! I'm so happy to see this in my notifications... will be back to watch it after my economics exam... Also, he's hard to get a hold of, but I'd love to see a podcast with Thomas Sowell Edit: Thank you for all the well wishes. Crushed the exam and I'm here for this video
I’m not a person that comments frequently. I feel like it is my DUTY to show my support for these two men. I don’t believe that the words exist, from any scholar, in any language, that could properly articulate how passionately I feel to know that there individuals with such an incredible understanding of the differences between right and wrong and the way that I think. I just wanted you both to know how much appreciate your contribution to humanity and this world as a whole. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Meeting “famous people“ is so far down on my priority list that it barely ranks, but it would be an honor to meet either of these individuals and I hope someday God grants me the opportunity to cross their paths.
The smartest tough guy and the toughest smart guy
You deserve more likes.
I’m stealing this. 👌
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This is a "Chef's kiss mwah" level comment. Just perfect.
I love these Real Men❣️
Goggins told me to suffer, Peterson told me to take responsibility, and Willink told me that discipline will make me free. They have changed my life
yeah nice, those 3 people are my gurus too
They helped change my life too. It is truly something incredible.
If only we could get a long format conversation between Goggins and Peterson!!
For me, it's Jordan Peterson, for meaning in life, Jocko Willink for Duty to others and Kevin Samuels for the importance of marriage and responsibility.
Thanks for giving me Goggins, I'm now curious as to what he has to say.
@@pyratepotter4850 I would like Goggins and Jocko! Or maybe all three together. I think Jocko and JP are pretty amazing here already though.
Mr. Peterson, you're looking healthier and stronger with every podcast. Cheers to you, and continued healing.
Agreed!
Did something happen to him? Was he sick before or something? lol I see a lot of people saying what you just said.
@@jaylenny62 Hes recovering from withdrawals from some drug I think it's opiate related
@@igot5onit423 the drug is Benzodiazepines by doctor receipt during a very stressful time when Jordan Peterson was facing his wife fighting cancer.
@Me me Not sure the side effects of Benzos are exactly 'well known'. You should have a reasonable expectation that your doctor will not do you any harm when prescribing medication. Unfortunately they are all too often incentivised by drug companies to get patients addicted.
“The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools.”
- Thucydides
Dr. Peterson is certainly a scholar. Is this implying that he is a coward? I'm confused.
@@christinesowards6353 Quite the opposite I would wager, I took it as aluding to a trend of separation that these two are an exception of.
Unconfuse yourself . Greek philosophers went to war with the military. He means that the military needs to be educated in history and literature. Great generals were educated!!!
Damn, I'm keeping this one
💗🤘😁🤘
Sounds boring but I’ve been cleaning my room and taking responsibilities in my life one day and one corner in my place at a time. Thanks to these two men.
God bless you all.
Not boring...getting on track!
One of the smartest and most effective things I have heard was "Just do the next right thing." It really works and makes imposing work much simpler.
It's never boring! Great job!
I took up cooking and got a woman to do the cleaning. My cleaning is just throwing everything away. Such is life
That's awesome! I just listened to this while painting a room in my house and making it beautiful. One room and one day at a time 💪
The psychologist and the soldier. Brilliant.
There's this saying : "society that separates it's warriors from philosophers wil have it's thinking done by cowards and it's fighting done by fools".
Would make for a good book title :)
Which is which?
SAILOR. HE'S. A. SAILOR.
The Right Wing Hypocrite and the Warcriminal. P.S. Petersen once said that silencing the free speech of the State's enemies might be necessary
"I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children can live in peace."- Thomas Paine
Did he kill women and children?
@@stevenhargraves2460 Not directly of course. Jocko would never want to kill innocent Women or children. Some Women may not be innocent either. He's talking about collateral damage in the fog of war. War is not a surgical endeavour. It's messy and there are a lot of unintended consequencies. One has to accept that, as a byproduct of going to war.
@@Justyburger Accept it when it’s your home being bombed by the good old navy seals. War can never be accepted. It is not awesome!!! It is hell on earth- for some, but for you it is acceptable. For you it is a movie. It is Bush, it is Rumsfeld, and Cheney and Jocko killing people for what reason. For money and their political gain.
I feel that is still romanticizing trouble... you dont want children that grow up with no troubles.. that breeds soft humans... a little adversary goes a long way. Humans love to also play the hero.. which is fine. But sometimes we have to allow our children to also do their part.
@@XErinCoreX there's plenty of struggle in life without chaotic violence.
History isn't boring.
Teachers who can't communicate effectively are boring.
Sitting still in a sedentary environment for eight hours a day is boring.
Being force fed facts to remember instead of being led through the thought process of how to uncover a deeper meaning is boring.
History isn't boring.
well said
History is not boring...a great debate on history would be peterson vs a russian about ussr
People who think history is boring don’t imagine themselves to be a part of it.
It can be taught well though. My partner is German and they have a culture of taking history very seriously....the classes she described were really dynamic and intense, full of debate etc as it should be
History Is definitely not boring. My favorite class in school was a history class with my favorite teacher in it. Good teachers and fundamental to effective schooling!
His skin tone is back... his speed of thought is coming back... thank god
Countenance....revived. Saw it immediately.
I think infrared sauna is helping a lot
Thank goodness
Yeah kinda, but sometimes he looks like he's about to stutter and tries to pause mid-way to not allow it to happen. A slight hesitation in his speech ability for sure.
Are you referring to Jocko or Jordan? What happened?
I credit these two people for the current success and joy I have in my life. Which is far from the life I had.
Happy to hear buddy. All the best on your journey
makes me happy to hear of your success. keep on the path
The two most motivational people in the world
Make sure you give yourself some credit for making it happen! Love these guys
Lol nice name 📛
Joe Rogan introduced these 2 men to my radar about 4 years ago. They helped me change my life. I still review Peterson's psychology lectures from UT twice a year.
Same. Watched all JRE's with Jordan and Jocko multiple times. Then I watched Jocko podcasts with Jordan on them.
Yeah... JRE podcast used to really be something!
Same! After I saw JO on Joe I went immediately to him and I found Jocko cause him doing the SOG stories w Stryker
Now Joe Rogan deleted many conservative episodes from his channel bc he's a coward
Legends! 🙌
They touch directly on my of my very favorite concepts of reality that is summed up by a quote by G.K. Chesterton.
“ Fairy tales do not tell children that dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell the children that dragons can be killed.”
That is an amazing quote and I thank you for bringing it to my attention
I like that quote a lot
Dragons , ogres and witches.
@@carloscarriquiry824 But not trolls.
@@Ronin3453 trolls are never killed…
These two men changed my life in more ways than I ever though possible. I went from an angry delinquent teen with no goals or respect to a law student with fantastic relationships with my parents. Thank you Jocko and Jordan ☺️
Congratulations- I have two sons one is ok the other has not found his way - hoping he’ll turn around
Good for you mate.... wish I had had access to these guys 30 years ago...... could have avoided many bad decisions......
Congratulations Josh! I followed Dr. Peterson to the University of Nebraska College of Law! Where did you go?
That’s fantastic! More power to you. Keep it up 👍
@@elizabethwilk9615 sometimes one has to hit bottom to realize how low he has fallen
There are two kinds of people: Those who think the government cares about them, and those who think.
Based
Based
and redpilled
anyone can think what they want, and not all parts or people in the government are "evil". doing these "us vs them" kind of think is ridiculous. the most important part and the only part that's valid of what you said is, those who think. people need leadership, and governance is a part of how we handle that.
two kinds of people...but then there's Jocko
Jocko surprised me by the sheer enthusiasm and overall brightness of his character.
He had has the military confidence when speaking that’s hard not to admire.
Jocko is made of enthusiasm
@@srsmedic8285 some say enthusiasm is a word that etmologicaly means: full of God.
I had that surprise several years ago. Well put.
He’s a seal team leader bro. This man convinces people to go die. Lol
It never ceases to amaze me how two men from absolutely opposite lifestyles can have so much in common.
We have way more in common with a lot of people than you may imagine. Just talk to them.
United in the face of a common enemy...liberals!
Jordan grew up on the prairies he knows how hunt and fire a gun !
The common thread is the quest for a meaningful life.
@@guymajor7103 clearly the same thing as being a Navy Seal lol.
Just came here to say that Red Skull is my new favourite super hero. That's all. Thanks Coates.
Coates made that Red Skull joke？ That's disappointing to know as I find value in what he says here and there.
"See! They admire Nazis! They even admit it!"
@@nyrisj Bret Weinstein had similar sentiments
Funny how the radical left in a attempt to discredit a man just exposed a valued intellectual to a new group of people.
I fucking love it
My favorite two people to listen to. Intensely intelligent.
Intelligently intense.
These two are the manifestation of true masculinity
Or "HYPER TOXIC" to the outrage peddlers.
Dope post Sir.
Agreed ,couldn’t wait to see this
that's really cool travis
It really looks like Jordan is getting better week to week, it makes me so happy
I was thinking the same thing!
Right
And me. It's so good to see him looking stronger physically and you can hear that he is sounding stronger mentally - or that may be because he always sparkles when he thinks aloud. If that doesn't sound too weird! He is one of the most interesting human beings I've ever come across.
Yes! I thought he was on fire this week
Exactly! He looks great, also highly recommend 12 more rules audiobook 🤘
I worked with a gentleman who’d been a slave in modern Africa as a child. He came to me and told me the single biggest skill he wanted to obtain when he came to America was language and literacy. He’s better read than I am and an incredible human being.
Your coworker is not alone, I grew in Guatemala during the late 70's, 80's and we were in a civil war. And coming to America was the best thing that ever happened to me. I have my experience of my childhood and appreciate my Adulthood in America. And language and literacy is extremely huge part of an adult education. Thank you for sharing...
@A Well yes and no, in terms of knowledge, not wisdom or experience, itll be harder for them to obatin it. However, in a wisdom/experience sense I agree with you.
I think we can trust public education systems to take care of that for now on. Well, I'm from a small county with schools that teach common core. In the Bible belt where there is 10 churches in any square mile. We all read where I'm from, except the few and far between challenged ones.
@@Alex26fl
Sorry for our silly, pidgin language. I often wish the Normans hadn’t invaded, mucking it up.
@A Thanks for sharing your take. Aliteracy. It’s way worse than illiteracy.
The most profound conversation I’ve ever witnessed between Captain America and the Red Skull!
One of the best podcasts I’ve ever listened to. Truly made my day.
Although the comparison is comedic it's a great indication that people with "opposite" ideals, who are on the "other side of the fence" (navy seal vs intellectual) still have an incredible amount in common.
Everyone does. This nonsense tribalism is tearing people apart. If a navy seal and a Harvard grad can have a 2.5 hour conversation and immensely respect eachother wtf are we doing
@@filthycasualwarrior7118 I find it it somewhat interesting but alarming common in today's society) that you think a Navy Seal and and an "intellectual" have "opposite" ideals and are on the "other side of the fence". You may want to reflect on what led you to that perception prior to viewing this?
Indeed, the constant drumbeat of "tribalism" is counterproductive and diminishing our societal progression, and it's instantiated daily in our media and educational institutions.
I get the Marvel reference 😏😏 "Hail Hydra," (the new version) lol. 😎
Hail Lobster!
I made my room look more beautiful than it ever has and brought my family closer together and my life is slowly improving for the better as a result.
Keep it up onward and upward
@@JordanBPeterson Thank you for all your work. I cant say you changed my life but its been great to have you for a conversation. Even if indirect. These things are so rarely spoke but so commonly thought. As we say here in Ireland, Keeper lit !
@@JordanBPeterson omg! He replied to you!! 😱❤️
In a world that often feels short on heroes, these two are a very welcome sight.
Wait, what about Kamala Harris? First (check the box) President!? Oops meant VICE president. My Bad.
@@mobiusraptor7 Have you ever watched the Movie "Gladiator" with Russell Crowe? If not, watch it! I feel like we are repeating the history of Rome. Yes the US was once a beacon of light for the world until it itself became corrupt and contemptible and then it lost power. Mob rule and the spectacle of politics are well put in that film. Watch it tonight!
@@mobiusraptor7 I agree 100%.
@@AvatarEnd777The US a beacon of light for the world? When exactly was that? When was 'murica great?
@@SoyelYorch_ Ever since its inception. Read world history.
"I couldn't find books that embraced the values I want my kids to personify, so I wrote my own"
Uhhhh fuck ya that's the way to be.
Be the solution and let nothing stop you. Winning!
That's why I make my own Chic-fil-a sauce
@@MrWhiteout33 best comment here..underrated
Or just read more.
I'm an adult and I liked Jockos "kid's books" as well. I don't get why you wouldn't be able to "get those published nowadays", as they implied in the video.
Will be 61 in August 2021, lived a reasonably exciting life, these guys podcasts are so inspirational. Left 28yr career in pharma, took 3 Minimum wage jobs and back to college, qualified as men's counsellor in Oct last and starting my own biz, (in service to the young men who seem so adrift here in Northern Ireland), very very soon. I cannot thank these two wonderful human beings, who will never meet me in person, for my daily inspiration throughout, to get my act together, face my dragons and not give in.. 💜🙏 to Peterson/Jocko
💚💚💚
Wow! That's fulfilling work!
Good on ya! Spreading good on others or at least helping them see the goodness and greatness is possible in themselves.
Interesting. I am a handful of years behind you and looking for a way to make a difference in the world after my career comes to a close.
Well done, James! Might be time for your own RUclips channel to extend your own thoughts and life lessons to others. Consider me a 'subscriber in waiting'....!!
Jordan going from only 1 hour to 2.5 hours in deep conversation is uplifting
He trusts Jocko won't take advantage of his delicate state.
@@opinionatedape5895 he looks like he has aged a ton. feel really bad for him
@Paps you know , Jordan might read the comments
@@ddcycleman did I say something bad. Just asking
@@paps.. He does look noticeably better recently though, as if his health is slowly returning.
Peterson taught me how to think, and Willink taught me how to act.
Thank you both.
@gigagrave well said!
An excellent summation.
goggins taught me how to train
Crowder taught me how to laugh
It hurts me to say but I can see a difference in Jordan from 3 or 4 years ago and now, the sacrifices he’s made have taken their toll, but the amazing good he’s done for me and millions others, shall not make that sacrifice be made in vain, we love you Jordan!!!
Yes, there's a huge difference, I noticed this a couple months ago. I don't know if it's for better or worse, or if that even matters but I know he's a different man..
I think anyone who fights such a war and just hardly makes it back to the people they love is bound to be a different person.
Regardless, much love to him
True, but he seems to be doing better with every new podcast I see and I know we're all better for it.
What difference do you see?
he looks great to be honest. Like a quality built instrument that has really seen it's use, but the usage only validates it's existence and the service it has provided and still does, better than ever it seems. All of this in human form too boot. Not made from iron and wood and whatnot.
I emphatically disagree. Experience is the ultimate educator. The wisdom that Jordan Peterson has gained is priceless. His understanding of the human mind has broadened and given him the ability to reach more people. I do not necessarily enjoy this term, but he has truly been “enlightened” in so many ways. It takes such diligent time and effort to know the REAL truth and I see this understanding deepening in the mind of Jordan Peterson as time goes on. Maturity and simplicity go hand-in-hand.
I'm now 33 and have never considered myself to have role models that I really look up to. Watching and listening to these two men speak authentically in this way has me thinking these two are truly worthy of the label.
I have to agree.
The people who are supposed to be male role models in my life rather very much failed in that regard.
It's hard to extend trust in the advice and example of others because of that too.
But if I have to choose?
Yeah, I'm going to pick men like this, who are real men.
They don't shirk the shit!!!
Couldn’t agree more.
Jocko wasn't born, he was tactically deployed
Theres a cock joke here somewhere, i just know it...
@@lemuelseale1640 Hahaha
LMFAO
Tangos check under their beds at night for Jocko.
lol. Yup
These two have put me through so much. Just today I was having a very hard time going through this day and listening to these heroes is energizing me.
Right on brother. I’m with ya!
Same
Same here. An amazing, incredibly motivational and intelligent talk.
Couldn't help to check your profile and lo and behold! I see presidente Carduz in you channels xD. Greetings from a member in the concepción sur Mission brother! The future is as bright as your faith!
@@Ront1313 Saludos! Glad you are here.
In my opinion, Jocko Willink embodies everything great about America. To all of the Jocko's out there and there are many. Thank you.
I came because of the Red Skull controversy, and now i want to cry cause this guy seems wholesome af
It’s ok, he makes almost everyone cry lolol
Peterson is like Mr Rogers if he had spent his life studying the holocaust.
@@Strawman36 that's the most accurate thing I've read recently
Red skull??
@@budgibson185 It's a nazi captain america villain, an asshole made a comic book where Red Skull was basically Chris Peterson
Time Stamp Subject
0:00 Intro and Biography of Jocko Wilink (JW)
3:00 JW's Podcast origins, audience, purpose
8:30 Why JW reads harsh literary passages on podcast
9:30 Phobia therapy, resilience, and gratitude
12:40 Podcast with a Vietnam War POW
14:30 Resonance of war as an existential challenge/opportunity
18:00 Jordan Peterson (JP) to JW: How do you make moral sense of Iraq war?
19:30 Why JW posts his wake-up times
21:35 Discipline Equals Freedom origins in Navy Seal training/Team
25:30 Talent versus/with work ethic
27:15 The value of goals as a code of behavior
28:15 JW's childhood interest in the military
31:35 JP's childhood snow/dirt fights
32:45 JP's father's gun artishanship/marksmanship
35:30 JP's tomato wars
36:55 JW on life in the SEAL teams
38:20 JW joining SEAL teams after training
39:30 JW goes to University of San Diego
39:50 Why JW majored in English
41:00 The essential importance of writing skills
44:30 The essential importance of reading skills
54:15 Neuropsychology
55:50 Cognitive decline
57:00 JW declares JP wrong about cognitive psych (!)
58:40 Education system inadaquately pushes reading, how helpful it is
1:06:20 JW's university experience
1:09:00 Post college, post 09/11 deployment
1:15:00 Gathering intelligence in Iraq
1:18:00 JP asks JW about morality of Iraq war
1:23:00 JP asks JW USA's current involvement in Middle East
1:24:00 Two types of will necessary for war
1:28:00 Why Iraq after 09/11
1:29:00 Strategic purpose of order to work with Iraqi soldiers
1:31:40 Responding to unrealistic orders
1:35:00 Responding to unreasonable orders
1:39:18 Price of not acting--Rwanda
1:39:50 My Lai Massacre
1:41:00 Baghdad's torture chambers
1:41:40 JW's Books
1:42:40 JP to JW: What's your mission now?
1:44:00 What makes a good SEAL?
1:45:00 Power versus reciprocity
1:48:00 "You take care of your swim buddy."
1:50:00 Power versus reciprocity
1:54:00 Importance of trust and alignment
1:59:00 Putting mission and team above self
2:01:00 Why JW Clothing - Ghis
2:07:00 Why JW Clothing - Jeans
2:08:00 Delteriousness of ignorant contempt
2:11:30 Academics versus businessmen
2:14:00 Contempt leads to violence
2:14:30 JW's Kids Books
2:17:00 Why JW started a publishing company
2:18:20 Most rewarding part of JW's work
2:21:00 Approach to bullying
2:25:00 JW's upcoming novel
2:27:00 Concluding thoughts
You always find the real MVP of the comments section waaaay down there.
You're a fucking unit.
Impressive
Hail Lobster
Good 👍
Great notes, I hope @Jordan Peterson pins your comment to the top.
I am so glad Jordan survived the illness. He is like our grandfather in wisdom. Love, Respect and Discipline. Jordan is our modern day wisdom father.
What illness?
@@mrmagoo756he was gay
I grew up for the most part without a father figure in a bad household, so i never actually learned things about the world and what to do and what not to do. now i am in my twenties, trying to develop myself and find my place in society and these two are teaching me so much values that i had otherwise never learned. For this i salute you both!
And I salute you for being aware of that and working to be better than you are today, although you already seem to be good, just because of your awareness, your will to progress and your pursuing to be the best version of yourself!
@@DennisWassoer Thank you, that means alot, even coming from a stranger.
@Jordan B Peterson God told you i have to donate to a "charity"? Wild.
I am about to be 40 and still listening and trying to learn, as hard as it may be! If your trying to better yourself than your doing something right! I hope in the year plus since you posted this you have made progress even if you don't see it yet..I find it hard to believe you haven't! Your going to be a monster, in a good way! The way Dr. Peterson describes, go get it! I wish u nothing but success! You can do it!
wish you all the best and success in your life never give up on improving yourself
I'm glad Captain America and Red Skull are doing well.
🤣🤣
@Aaron G real recognize real
dude, how the fuck did i not notice? Jocko literally is what cap would actually be like outside of hollywood casting.
Hahahaha brilliant comment! This wins the Internet
Right! Chris Evans wished he was half of Jocko.
"Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today"- Red Skull
Awesome!
@@amanofnoreputation2164 Can't tell you where or when he said it. But I 1000% read it in his voice. Good quote! 😁😁
Actually, believe Bruce Lee said this b4 Herr Skull...
Hail Hydra!
As a 22 year old with not the most ideal father figure, the amount of gratitude and appreciation I have for these two cannot be understated.
I always end up tearing up from just raw appreciation to live in a time to be able to find people like this that live hundreds if not thousands miles away and yet can make a huge impact on me. and hopefully I can pass along a little of them throughout my life.
Much much love Jordan thank you for everything, I thank God every day you made it out of the of the hell you occupied, and honestly hate to imagine the suffering that came to you.
but for you to come back, motivated as ever... You don't have to be this good, this strong, this hard working, this consistent but you are. For me, and for everyone else out there starving for these encouraging words of wisdom and these tools for operating in the world.
You have been the biggest influence on my life, and I hope that stays consistent as I cannot think of a better role model and aim. Thanks for everything JP ❤️
Amen.
Try to be the best not just for you in the short term, but also for your sons into the future. That will require the very best of you unlike anything else you meet in the world.
Brilliantly spoken ,💪
Haha you absolute mess. Get a grip of yourself you blubbering baby
I just found out about him today. I appreciate everything you wrote.
And here I am in Greece, wandering if these guys over there accusing him of being a super-Nazi, can even understand English. Keep it up Dr., you inspire us all!
Everyone is being accused of being a 'Nazi' by someone these days, and everything is racist...including gravity, nature, and the wind. The terms are losing all meaning. Those who sling those words quickly as labels or insults against others are demonstrating very basic Psychology 101 called _Projection_ . *When we point at something, three fingers are pointing back at us.* %-) Cheers.
@@friedmandesigns German guy here, can confirm.
@@Honerkamp Hello I'm learning German by listening to Bach Passions and Schubert Lieder, is it useful?
You can tell right away who has never heard one word Jordan Peterson has ever spoken or written from the original source. Those are the people who call him some sort of Nazi or alt-right polemicist. They are also the ones who tell him he doesn't know what he's talking about while he is revealing the knowledge he has gathered in a 40-year academic career. You know, the same people that tell you that going to college is really important?
awqq1q1q
These two have made my life so much better
Feel like I'm being punched by well aimed knowledge fists every moment of this
Thanks to these two I now have clean room and a black belt in jiu jitsu. I ship out to fight the barbarians at the gate with a dragon next week.
@@dranreb1118 I make friends with the dragons and have them to my advantage
I feel EXACTLY the same way
Dude, it's you made your life better, you
@@polevoypavel8019 If they didn’t share their knowledge then I wouldn’t know how to fix it.
Finding out that Jordan's dad is a competition shooter, gun collector and gunsmith/hand-carver is so ridiculously cool.
Somehow it makes sense. Ridiculously cool doesn't fall far from the tree.
A very satisfactory Dad.
@Heaven Wheeler I think that's exceptionally ambitious for Fairview actually😆
Yea and in a weird way it's like... ... ... Yeah that's sounds about right, that should be his father
And Elk repopulater
These two men bring so much order to the chaos of our time.
These guys are literally raising the next generation of strong men with the internet. This is a beautiful time to be alive.
Listening to you guys got me to lose over 60 lbs and join the navy. Im not a Seal necessarily, but i am happy im doing something i can be proud of. Been out of bootcamp for 2 months now and i am finally on a good path in my life.
I may be a perfect stranger, but I'm glad to hear it keep pushing forward man!!!
@@adampindell thanks
Good work Pyro.
@@pyropatrick242 see, your hard work hasn't gone unnoticed 😅👆👆👆
@@JordanBPeterson wow... thank you
I’ve never seen either of these two smile this much. Real recognize real.
@Dr. Jordan Peterson God damn it dude, you're back again. Stop trying to hustle money out of people in someone else's name, it's not the right way to act.
I spent the last 48 hours obsessing over Jocko, and I’ve been a long term Jordan Peterson fan.... I can’t believe my 2 fav ppl come together.... just waoh
Yeah... It's fkn nutty
They've done this several times lol
The times Dr. Peterson was on Jocko’s podcasts are epic!!! Must see those if you have not yet
This is the happiest and calmest I’ve seen Jordan in recent memory and I honestly think it’s because Jocko is so great at creating a simple dynamic of how he thinks and lives his life. The joy Jordan has reliving his younger years of play and experiences is probably a welcome break he needed from the past few years of torment and scrutiny. Jocko never disappoints and this episode made me appreciate him that much more that he could make Jordan smile and laugh... two great men... a warrior and a intellectual sharing the same wavelength for 2 hours!
because jocko dont judge peterson like tv guest or other people. he is working and work means listening and taking productive words from peterson without prejudice
They’re both warriors and both intellectuals
Pstd is a common thing in the military….just you know😢.
@@bperez8656
Definitely both intelligent & well read men. Love listening to Jocko’s podcasts because of his humility, humour and his positive eloquence.
Looks like we have another instant classic on our hands
Funny how his videos never make it to YT's trending
Peterson constantly interrupting Jocko and not allowing him to complete a single thought was unlistenable after the first 20 minutes or so. This was a failure as far as I'm concerned.
@@HarryManback0 I know what you mean, I think after about the 30 minute mark it gets much better though. Its definitely worth listening on.
@@HarryManback0 Might've seemed so early. Shoulda stuck with it
@@HarryManback0 i noticed it too but it didn't ruin the talk for me. I found it insightfull and glad i listened to it
You’ve gotta get GOGGINS on with JBP to discuss suffering, and how to deal with it
Yes!
Definitely
He don’t know him son
yesssss pls
Back on the log !
It’s been a great start to Dr. Peterson’s comeback. Happy to hear him, and see his health progressing every time he uploads a new video.
Thank you Mr. Peterson. You are truly one of the greatest thinkers of our time. I'm so glad you're back Sir.
Seeing this pop up in my feed just turned a “not so good day” into a great day!
I'm glad there are men like this today, they're badly needed!
Two of my favorite humans alive having a conversation? This made my day.
What if we get David Goggins and Cameron Hanes in the mix too! Those 4 individuals would have a intense conversation about drive and discipline
The best part of this video was stumbled upon by Jocko saying “you’re not going to ask why I was an English major?” And Jordan treating that seriously but with humor. Very cool 👌
Couldn't have agreed more.
The podcast up to then was B- at best, but from that point and on A++...
He didn't need to ask because it's actually in Jocko's book which is on Petersons list. I'm glad they went through it though, it's more cool to an already cool story!
2.5 hours of 2 of the fiercest beasts known today. Yes please.
I'mma reply to you, just cuz I wanna check with a more regular viewer than me, what's your opinion on him after the treatment? It sounds to me like he's not 100%, but seems like nobody is talking about that.
Thoughts?
@@Timhttrsn Jordan has talked about it in one of these podcasts.
I’m not exactly which one it is but I’m pretty sure it was the one with Brett Weinstein.
He says something along the lines of only operating at about 20% and that waking up is really hard. That’s about all I remember sorry. And if that’s the wrong podcast I’m sorry.
@@steven5054 That doesn't make a lot of sense to me but ok
@@danielzavalahuerta Alright, thanks!
@Tim feels like he is possessed by some buffer demon making him a weirdly slowed version of himself...
That 20% functionality is painfully true
The reason why Jocko became an English major is the most selfless thing I’ve heard in a while. Very valuable lesson, help others succeed, good things happen.
The reason Jocko became an English major was to "be a good seal." Helping others was only one of a subset of that ideal.
@@cl5193 the part I am referring to is when he said he wants to be able to write good performance reviews and communicate in detail the actions of others so they would be more likely to get rewards and recognized for their good actions.
@@jaredmello Yes, I know what you were referring to. That's why I commented.
@@cl5193 yes and being a good seal means helping your teammates. Semantics
@@jaredmello Being a good seal means far more than helping your soldiers (not teammates - wtf). He could have answered the question with "helping my soldiers," but he didn't. He answered, "to be a good seal," which encompasses a multitude of qualities and skills. Choosing English as a major added to that ideal in several ways, as he explained. Writing reviews for his men was only one - not the reason. You don't understand semantics.
Jocko is a truly rare individual. It is interesting to see how humble he is when he truly has lived a one-in-a-billion life.
Maybe it’s his humbleness that has allowed him to live a one in a billion life.
Truly.
@@steven5054 Your cynic definition doesn't do him justice and you know that. If that's really what you see when listening to this guy i'm sorry for you.
It's easy to be humble when you know you're elite and surrounded by other elites. True Alphas like him don't need to flex on people because their switch can happen with a snap of the finger. It's rare af but absolutely cool to see.
Seriously. I mean he is like an modern day Achilles. Lol.
Spot on about the non fatal cancer. Very grateful for the chance to overcome true adversity.
Two people from wildly different backgrounds that end up at nearly the same place is fascinating. And both with a deep affection for people and a desire for them to truly live their best lives. Jocko and JBP's talks are the best.
Love jocko’s honesty. He never just appeases the interviewer with the answers they want to hear. It’s admirable
One of my legitimate goals in life is to be a combination of the best parts of these two gentlemen. Epic crossover.
Tough, tender and intellectually/creatively curious...is The Holy Trinity.
so like Joe Rogan 2.0
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😂 I love Rogan but for some reason that doesn't really attract me...perhaps it's because Jocko and Jordan still have hair on their heads and I like that...I'm shallow, I know.
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Excellent conversation these two men had, very deep and philosophical ideas were lain here
Dr Peterson is physically stronger, sounding and looking better and better after every podcast in 2021!
wim hoff
Can’t keep a good man down.
The warrior/poet meets the psychoanalyst/shaman. Magical and inspiring.
This comment wins
No one promotes responsibility quite like Jocko
@@sanjacobs6261 😂😂😂
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I was a Chief in the Navy, because of that I understand why Jocko became an English major. In the military and in life as a whole, your own mastery of language can take you and those around you to places you couldn’t imagine. You increase your chances of becoming truly powerful. Writing and communication can not only dictate your path but potentially the path of a nation.
@@AdamA-pm3yn Apparently you don’t understand the language properly because I did corroborate with what Jocko said and how he said it. I also added some of my own thoughts because they added value to what Jocko said about writing and communication. Writing and communication are particular degrees of the life experience. Or I could just say “what he said “.
@@AdamA-pm3yn look brother. You, me or anyone with half a brain can dissect what everyone says and find a fault in what someone has said. Especially when talking about any complex issue facing society or an individual. Meaning.... You cannot truly understand where someone is coming from or the degree at which their understanding of a subject is without hearing more than just a couple sentences. Meaning... instead of trying to correct someone’s wording because it doesn’t mesh with your view of how it should be written but you can agree with the intended meaning then just simply say cool. There’s more important things to disagree on.
And yes. I do believe that my perspective of being in the military and especially the fact of me being a Chief carries a different weight to the discussion based off of my experience not only in life but the amount of individuals that I’ve interacted with over the years. That’s one of the benefits of being in the military that most individuals will not experience. Meaning.... I’ve dealt with a wider spectrum of people than most people. Served with and led tens of thousands of people from most walks of life. Met and talked to probably around a million people in my lifetime. Visited 67 countries and 42 of the 50 states. My opinion is my opinion and you have to take what anyone says with a grain of thought. It’s why a few cultures revere their older population because of respect and wisdom based on experience. Now to your point, just because someone is transsexual that doesn’t mean that I hold their opinion to a high regard when it comes to them saying it’s ok for everyone to do it. Or that a child should be able to decide what they want to be. I base my opinion on that experience as a Chief who dealt with thousands of young adults that were willing to put their lives on the line but didn’t know who they were themselves.
A few of the things you speak of are major contributors to why not only America but the rest of the world is still jacked up. Just like anything in life. You get what you put into it. Meaning... We as a species need to re evaluate what we put into children. Human beings aren’t made to thrive in this type of world. This type of world leads to destruction instead of balance. The haves against the have nots.
@@AdamA-pm3yn You don’t know me dude. Secondly, just because you can arm yourself with a vocabulary that doesn’t mean you can think. Your last comment shows me that you don’t know what your talking about if your summarization is that I’m a post modernist. No where in anything that I’ve said could lead you to that conclusion. Meaning.... You don’t know shit if that’s what you believe. Meaning.... if that’s what you got from what I said then it brings into question your other opinions, thoughts and ideas because your way off brother. Carry on shipmate.
@@AdamA-pm3yn here I’ll help you understand. I’m a Chief. Yes I believe my understanding of certain things is at a higher degree than many people regarding certain things that I’ve experienced more than other people. You call me a post modernist because I said that I have a higher level of understanding about something or my group has a higher understanding about that something. Correct?
You have an understanding of what a post modernist is based in part on what you’ve learned about what a post modernist is. Basically your taking someone else’s idea of what a post modernist is slapping it on people and then patting yourself on the back thinking that you understand when you don’t. Correct?
What I’m saying is that you don’t “really understand “ what a post modernist is. This is why you don’t understand what your talking about....
I’m a Chief and yes there is 10s of thousands of Chiefs that don’t understand to the degree of what I understand about knowledge and communication. Try looking at it from this perspective. Take the NFL, there’s thousands of Athletes that played in the NFL. There’s different levels of understanding in the NFL community when it comes to what it takes to be the best mentally and physically in the NFL. Doesn’t take away from the others. It also doesn’t mean that people that played in the NFL are the only ones that know. There’s just certain people that know and understand more. I don’t know where I fall in the spectrum of understanding when it comes to military members. That doesn’t take away from the fact that I have or that my group has which is not a group that’s controversial in today’s world. If anything, my group is comprised with people from every spectrum that the United States has to offer. Many of us haven’t drank the cool aid and understand that it’s what’s inside the individual instead of their gender, skin color or any other label that people use in order to put one group above the other. Meaning.... I’m just a dude that understands too much but at the same time I understand that I don’t know shit myself. There’s too much to know and there’s even more that I don’t know that I should understand it because I haven’t came into contact with it. Meaning.... You don’t know what you don’t know. Do I know what I’m talking about? Yes and no is the answer but no I’m not a post modernist.
@@AdamA-pm3yn that’s a cute saying. What fruit have I bared? You talk in circles but don’t realize it apparently. You have no insight into who I am and what I’ve accomplished in life but you know the fruit I bare? Want to compare our fruits? I can say with 100% conviction that I’ve impacted thousands in a way that you wouldn’t understand unless you were there. So yes. My original statement that “I was a Chief in the Navy, because of THAT I understand why Jocko became an English major “ was definitely a correct statement. Because of THAT thing, my level of understanding about certain things is because of THAT.
Hearing Jocko and Jordan geek out about words and their power is the best thing ever. I do it and people look at me like I'm nuts. I'm an elementary and middle school English teacher, and I tell my students all the time that I'm a Word Nerd. I have several quotes about the power of language around my classroom and refer to them often.
Nominative determinism, you're a Dickens
I have always had a neurological condition that makes it impossible for me to speak nouns sometimes, the only way I was able to overcome this was to read everything, including the dictionary and the thesaurus. That provides me with other words to fill the gap in my sentences. I was often picked of and or beaten by my fellow students and my sibling for using big words and shit.
I haven't read a book in 20 years. As my life got harder I didn't feel books had any of the answers, plus, since I have always been sensitive to way things are written, I could most things boring.
Along those lines whenever I have to take a test for a job, there are never answers that fall within the parameters of what I would actually do. Hence, I couldn't in truth answer the questions the way they required.
Just saying.
Words mean things, makes me smile since I quite often don't understand why they are being used when people use them.
@@summan41man so dr Peterson is a Nazi then, since the genesis of that word has obviously changed it to mean the opposite.
Just saying.
@@summan41man so what comes first, the meaning of something that requires articulation or just random sounds that then become attributed to a meaning?
Either way many words change form and meaning therefore negating what the genesis was in the first place.
Chicken? Egg?
Whether I understand your point of view or not, or I choose to follow your direction to try harder, it doesn't change the fact that most people seem to not understand many of the words they use.
Have a nice day.
Two American heroes- though one happened to have been born in Canada
Thank you both.
Call them North American heroes....there, fixed it LOL
Once they got going, this was one of the most engaging talks the Doc has had since the return. Excellent conversation. Inspired to take my reading more seriously!
Jocko is like the tough Dad you needed and jordan Peterson is the compassionate Dad you needed. Hearing both of them build off one another really helped me understand better where I want to take my self mentally emotionally and physically.
Yes
Peterson is somewhat tough too, I can recommend the Andrew Huberman Paul Conti interviews for compassionate 😊
In a fatherless world, these men changed lives of so many people
You literally came back from the depths of hell just in time to help us recover from the bs that's been going on for the last two years. Thanks boss
I really appreciate that Jordon doesn't forget his blue collar roots or look down at them.
That’s cause he’s Albertan. Hardest workers in Canada and the most conservative province, hard work with conservative values breeds success.
He grew up in a fairly tough town, if no one here understands how tough the rig workers are and how brutal they are working Canadian winters, they oughta meet some of those men. Anyway, his town would’ve been entirely oil rig workers and young men would’ve flocked there for the high paying job of rigs.
I’m so proud of this man and I must say he’s saved my life or at the bare minimum he’s put the vector in the right direction even if the angle isn’t perfect.
@J W illegal coma treatment? What was illegal about it? And according to whom?
@J W Hey thanks for the reply and the explanation. Was the treatment conducted in the US or Europe?
@J W Gotcha. When you said illegal, I was confused. It seems that it would have been illegal if this protocol had been conducted in the US or Europe but since it was done in Asia, it wouldn't be. Is that how you see it as well?
@J W I think I understand what you're saying :) It's unfortunate Russia was the only place that seemed to be able to help him.
“Words are historic artifacts” quote of the year. I’m going to use that idea to write a poem. Thanks Doctor Peterson.
Seeing peterson de-aging brings me great joy
Jocko: "I didn't change your life, you did."
JBP: "Thanks a lot."
No gentlemen, thank you. Sincerely.
I honestly think that Jordan Peterson being able to do these podcasts is giving him life week by week.
Going by all that he has said and all that happened in prior podcasts and with the akathisia, the inability to work was draining Jordan horribly.
But now he can do something, and further clean up his own room after the mess the side effects of getting off of prescription benzodiazepines (and life) caused.
I agree, these two guys can't possibly understand how they affect a dunce like myself.
My husband and I have been waiting to watch this together since the day we saw it drop. With 5 kids, it took us some time to find time. We are so excited to listen to and watch these two converse.
I feel this, my wife and I have 4
I wish my wife had an appetite for intellectual, meaningful conversation
@Fionnbharr Sherry only if you find a good one. Consider yourself fortunate. There are not too many good ones
I'm reflecting on how bravery comes in different forms and these are two of the bravest men you can find.
It’s like Moses and Hercules walk into a bar and the jukebox scratches into dead silence as they trade stories of surviving Hades.
Fuck... I saw that as I read it. Wow
That's a good one!
Such a vivid description! 100% right
GOLDEN COMMENT. You win.
absolute gold. so very true.
If I can say, Dr. Peterson looks better now than he did for several months prior to his abrupt disappearance. His face is stricter somehow, and his eyes are "stronger." Thank you, Professor, for coming back to us.
I think he got a high quality ring light
I think hes been doing Wim hoffs breathing method
@J W you must just be so perfect...
@J W oh, so you tell doctors what medications they should prescribe you? Because you're the expert on the matter, I assume.
@J W he never said he didn't understand the possibilities of the drugs. He trusted his doctors best judgment re: risks and benefits.
You sound like a petty little person. I wonder what could be found in your closet that would undermine your arguments.
I'm a simple person. When these two individuals are speaking together, I stop what I'm doing and listen.
Still gotta eat lunch on my lunch break.
I hope you aren't a bus driver.
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How do you put sufficient adventure into peace. Man. As a Marine, that's something I wrestle with every day and didn't even know it until right this second. Wow.
God bless
JBP good to see you back in full force. Interviewing a man like Jocko takes no less than 100%. thank you for this.
Get David Goggins on here too!
Too much power in one podcast. But honestly.. I think goggins is far more honest and raw than peterson.
I feel like goggins is directly piercing my soul telling me to do better, be better
Yes! I’ve been waiting for goggins to be on jocko or Jordan’s podcast. I hope they make it happen
David and jocko with Jordan would be awesome
@@hyacinthemacias1518 I doubt Goggins and Jocko will ever link up like that. They don’t have similar views at all with some of the things they talk about. It’d be dope tho.
@@LucidSoundz really? How do they differ, I didn't see much to think that.
2 + hours of Jocko and Jordan and I leave more enriched than in 12 years of public school....
@MrBlankie05 0 He was held back each of the 12 years. He was given a free pass for being an 18 year old still in his first year of primary.
@@SirUncleCid that's mean. he's a 30 year old ex convict who never finished elementary school
@@brimster-valorantaggressiv3419 It's hard when being offended by the truth, I know.
@MrBlankie05 0 do not carelessly denigrate social institutions or creative achievement. Yes these guys are wise, but your teachers were doing the best they could, if they were ALL shitty teachers, think for a moment, that was the best they could do! You had the capacity to understand that their work was not enough and you can aim to be better because they showed you how not to be.
-something JBP might reply with
@@technetiumsoul , no. If teachers had done their job people would not have to hear Peterson spout common sense. I don't know what's more impressive, the fact that an educator figured out what his peers were doing and tried to correct it, or the man's capacity to commercialize it.
1:35:56 fascinating concept about "surrendering your influence"
!! I'm so happy to see this in my notifications... will be back to watch it after my economics exam...
Also, he's hard to get a hold of, but I'd love to see a podcast with Thomas Sowell
Edit: Thank you for all the well wishes. Crushed the exam and I'm here for this video
Good luck
I second this
Good luck on your exam!!
YES, Thomas Sowell!!
May you think your best for your econ test!
thatd be too awesome
I like the chemistry they got.
I think it's because both have dedicated their life to bring back order from total chaos that humans can create.
The best chemistry he has is with Mr. Mollett.. aka Theo
A tough smart guy and a smart tough guy, both of whom have been through their own version of hell.
Don't pray for an easy life
Pray to get stronger
Thx Professor. Those words changed me forever
Communication, I learn so much incredible from this open discussion.
Thanks to Rogan 4-5 years ago, I feel like these guys are now two of my closest friends
Right, that was way back when people used to lok up to Joe Rogan.
That's what they call a parasocial relationship.
Same. I went Joe Rogan - Jocko Willink - Jordan Peterson, and I've followed JP ever since.
@@cluckycluck3053 I still do and see absolutely no reason not to
2 people that have changed the trajectory of my life for the better
So much alpha even my intellect grew a pair.
Oh shit that was funny 🙌🏽
cringe
That....was awesome
This comment 🏆 wins them all 😆💪🏼🙌🏻
Ironically, your comment is far more ‘cringe’ than the amusing joke it’s directed at.
I’m not a person that comments frequently. I feel like it is my DUTY to show my support for these two men. I don’t believe that the words exist, from any scholar, in any language, that could properly articulate how passionately I feel to know that there individuals with such an incredible understanding of the differences between right and wrong and the way that I think. I just wanted you both to know how much appreciate your contribution to humanity and this world as a whole. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Meeting “famous people“ is so far down on my priority list that it barely ranks, but it would be an honor to meet either of these individuals and I hope someday God grants me the opportunity to cross their paths.
The energy in this podcast is contagious.
I truly wish we had people of this quality and character running the country.
Love you both!! My husband came in while I was listening to this and he just smiled at me. He knows I needed this!
You got this, girl! ❤️
Yes sir when I launch an arrow, follow it
Through the arc and watch it plunge right where I aimed. That is a feeling I can not easily forget.