@camaro4ever222 You know that the woke idiots are wrong about the western world still being a dunghill of Homophobia by the fact that sooooo many millions of people love him and find what he thinks & says so thought provoking when 100 years ago he would have been Totally dismissed as an intellectual pervert simply to him being gay.
These 2 talk all these ideas and this is the best brain thought you could come up with . How does it benefit anything in anway that you tell us all that you like listening to him? Guess what. The rest of us didn't need to know that. I like bananas in a smoothie. So fucking what.
You are forgetting the good and deep heart! Why is it just the "brain"?? Cheats and villains can have brain, even verbal finesse - but where does that take them?
I just finished watching the entire Munk Debate between Douglas Murray, Matt Taibbi, Malcolm Gladwell, Michelle Goldberg. Douglas Murray is a beast at debates. Seeing Douglas Murray and Dr. Peterson discuss issues is a privilege. This is the kind of intellectual discussion that society is desperately missing in 2023.
Allow me, please, to echo your entire comment. This is June 2024, and we are still desperately missing articulate, informed discussion. ( Best regards !!!)
Great discussion. Im 70. I was raised by a father who was by definition a quadraplegic due to polio as an infant. He taught me to love God and live each day in gratitude. What a great gift he gave me.
As God has shown you so much compassion do you do the same to animals? Are you a vegetarian like me? Or do you expect compassion when you don’t give it to the children and babies and wives of other creatures?
The way Douglas Murray talks and carries himself is such a throwback. I feel like I’m watching a 1950s and 1960s intellectual when they’re invited on a talk-show.
A 55 year old working class fella here who recently discovered and loves listening to these types of conversations. Not just the topics but the eloquence within them . Thanks Jordan, Douglas.
I'm with you, Mark. Dr. Peterson and Douglas Murray are gems. As is (IMHO) Sam Harris and also the fabulous duo podcasters Glenn Loury & John McWhorter. Passing along in case you might not be familiar. Enjoy!
My son was severely disabled, non verbal and had cerebral palsy and spastic quadriplegia, he also had the best laugh in the world, an amazing personality and a love for life and music until he took his last breath at 27 years old. I don’t think the value of someone else’s life should be decided by any outside force, and especially not a bunch of corrupt, lying, narcissistic politicians.
I am a full time carer for my severely autistic 22 year son. Ill be doing this job, happily, till I die. I understand exactly what you mean mate. Reading that you lost your boy made me cry. Although my son has a mental age of a five year old, I can not imagine losing him because he's taught me more about life than any philosopher. I'm so sorry...
@@anthonybrett I was very lucky and blessed to have him in my life as long as I did, his prognosis according to Doctor’s was that they didn’t think he would live past 11 years of age, so I was blessed with many more years than that and each one of those years was a gift for me, as he was an amazing human despite his life being very difficult and him often being in more pain than anyone should be. I was very lucky to have him in my life. I wish you and your son many more years of time together, but in the end it’s never enough years when your child goes before you do, I hope that is something you never have to face. I have a lot of happy memories and the belief he is somewhere better than here and no longer in anymore pain.❤️
For what…what is he doing to change the status quo? Will he step out from behind his well paying camera work and get dirty with the rest of us him and Peterson. Just like government that wants you to go to war to die for them . ..
I’m grateful for JP every day. I enjoy listening to him bc besides being a highly intellectual and knowledgable man he’s also a spiritual man with a conscience and a soul. So many people nowadays don’t have a soul.
these are extremely charming and beautiful men, they could easily be selected as Hollywood actors just for their physical appearance, now add to that their brains, winsdom and knowledge, it´s a priviledge (and I am NOT a gay man)
Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson... the most sensible, decent and admirable two men I can think of letting us in on their conversation - what a privilege!
DM & JP aren't "letting you in". Internet hardware and the google corporation "let you in" on the conversation... and DM & JP get paid for it by other corporations' advertising budgets. ...this was not to criticize, just to clarify.
Murray's book War on the West is by far the most thorough and honest discussion about a very real collapse of Western Civilization right now - absolutely mind blowing.
@@seanhobbinsby which we must assume that you disagree. You don't think Douglas's book was original and important? Can you offer another analysis of the state of Western culture that does a better job?
I am so perplexed by those Western "intellectuals" who decided that since Western civilization has imperfections, it should be destroyed. Instead, they admire adepts of any idea that might even sound nice on the surface, from communism to Islamism, as long as it helps to destroy Western civilization. It happened in Russia, it happened in Germany - but these folks learned nothing, because they hate what they have, and they don't understand the idea of gradual improvement, they need the results now.
One intellectual. The other is boxing himself into a religious zealot frame of mind and is losing his pull with non-religious people that have the freedom of thought required to be an intellectual.
@@r13hd22 no you've misread his work. He is pulling the LESSONS from religion...not pushing a set religion itself. No zealot there, just a psychological analyses taking place.
And that they have respect for one another,like Douglas talk on death and not wanting the government to have a say over one's choice of death sad that one would want to end their death in a moment....
Murray epitomizes the best of British civilization and culture. As an Irishman, I find it hard to acknowledge our debt to Britain but let’s face it - high watermark of human development. And our man Murray here embodies it.
Aye,but he’s also a Scot, and therefore a Celt. Can we abide a lie? Whether it’s to brag about something one didn’t do but claims or to weasel themselves out of an unpleasant situation.
It's nice to listen to people who have learned some things that work in life, but also double check each other and finally most importantly keep learning what works and sharing it with others. Leave what doesn't work for people and the earth behind where it belongs. Embrace and share what does work to have better lives and futures for as many as possible. Talking about a person spending twenty years strapped to a board in a straight jack in the basement of an insane asylum or hospital sounds like a problem that should have been solved around 19 years and 11+ months sooner as peacefully and wisely as possible. Nobody should live suffering like that any longer than the soonest it can be solved. Error and trial until you find something better!
We need Douglas to publish a list of essential English literature (politics, history, philosophy, and poetry). Even if it’s only, something like ten books in each category, it could go a long way towards helping people interested in “changing their life” getting started.
A superficially 'wonderful idea'. But about as practical a suggestion as saying we need more people like Albert Einstein - as an example. Do you have any idea of how to produce another such ? (and I don't mean do you have an idea about producing more intellectually competent people - but another literally, phenomenally unequaled theorist)
I am a sixty six year old Woman. I have been diagnosed with many autoimmune illnesses which are slowly changing my way of life. This has made me realize that if I don't control the things I can control like my diet, I am going to become more miserable as I age. As I moniter what I eat, I have learned that I respect myself more. I have found that I can focus now on feeling more sensations that I hadnt remembered since I was a child. The joy of being in a warm bath or pool. Also, the soft feel of a fluffy blanket or petting a cute animal. Beautiful things and music. If we concentrate on our inner self, our other senses come to the fore and fill in the gaps of what we were used to having. I am growing even though I am elderly. It's an amazing thing. I have had to look after myself since I was a small child and I have experienced some terrible things and I was bitter for years. I have come to the conclusion that it is up to me to help me. If I can be less dependant on the outer World and be more dependant on the inner me I have found that I am on another road of self acceptance. It has been a wonderful experience listening to you both. Thank you.
I have an autoimmune disease and Dr Jack Kruze has improved my life a great deal. Look him on, he has lots of interviews on YT and a website and a forum which are all free.
Dear lady ! I m in a similar situation with illnesses cumulating etc. I discovered some remarkable contradictory experiences. That inner happiness is independent from outer circumstances like being paralysed during several hours multiple times daily. The body and brain have a protocol and answer and are able to produce in some way deep in the belly a happiness that is greater that all happiness I ever experienced at once. Perhaps the pressure of the realisation that physical death is coming breaks down the legitimation of unhappy feelings . Like : I am so and so deeply sick thus : I am so and so deeply unhappy. That equation breaks down and sometimes the extraordinary happens. Thank you for your post ! You’re my angel. it helps me in controlling the many things I should not do. In order to ameliorate the paralysis at least now and then.
In my opinion these are the two most important voices today. Extremely intelligent and well thought out. Regardless of political beliefs, they're incredibly fair and provide listeners with information and insight that's impossible to find. Thank you both
@@dariusus9870 His recent leavings are exactly that (like this video), which is unfortunate given most publications from a decade ago were built on brutally observed fact.... All this god-bothering waffle either indicates some ~wires have been crossed, or he has simply sold out completely to the $church$.
Both men have very interesting things to say most of the time. But like this going into religion is pure word salad to me. As in retrofitting stoneage morality into morality.
Both of you make me not feel crazy. My family came from Nazi Germany and my childhood in the German community warnings my entire life. As a 12 year old I told my father “we live in America that will never happen here “. Sooo…when I saw a month into Covid I saw the communist tactics and then spoke out to everyone I know. Lost lots of family and friends (also my job). Thank you! It’s the only hope not to enter into another dark period.
Murray: "These people have no chance." Please examine the memories of the "White Guards", those who fought with the Bolsheviks ("Red Guards"). They also believed that the Bolsheviks have no chance and that the people would understand everything and after a short time will overthrow the Bolsheviks. I am from Eastern Europe. In my youth, I was a member of the Communist Party, until I was disappointed. You still do not see global coordination and purposefulness of sophisticated actions and the power of these left -wing political movements that have entered into an alliance with bureaucracy and the world oligarchy (see Vivek Ramaswamy). And I also want to ask you to discuss a possible collective resistance plan. This is an illusion that you can defeat them preaching individual stoicism. You cannot defeat them if you are not organized! The tsunami of evil goes to us! God save us! And thank you!
I love Douglas Murray. He’s a voice of reason in the midst of insanity. I especially enjoy hearing him break down the reality of the nonsense his opponents are spouting. Having these two sit down together is a treat.
I would put this conversation on my mantle as evidence on why the world needs to move away from short form information seeking and thought and manipulation. These long form discussions, which encompass so much of life, give us the depth and breadth not to just consume information, but to learn how to think about it, discuss it, and learn from it. Thank you both.
very well said! I wish though people could continue this form of conversation elsewhere, possibly face-to-face. We need to find new avenues for social interaction that are more beneficial and effective for the good and health of our communities.
Its on my to do list to read his books. But its tough, because im not native speaking English and non of the books are translated, so its challenging. But ill start soon.
I'm so glad you told us that you like them .we were all watching eating to find out if you liked them or not, that way we know to like them. Go read other comments and contracts those with "proper brain thoughts" to the ones that mindlessly go "I like this,". That's what the like button was for.
I agree. I feel like there are so many who watch these two talk all these ideas, and all 98% of fools can say is "I like these two". What total idiots taking up comment space. I'm sure you agree.pointless hero worship. If you check comments there I mostly just stupid people with mindless judgemental opinions jist like that. People who apparently don't have the ability to discuss any of the IDEAS and can only pass their judgment X factor rating on them. It's sickening.
I prefer Murray as Jordan doesn't seem to know how to have a laugh or joke anymore he's so serious he loves the sound of his voice and the amount of extra words he knows by confiscating his sentences laden with all these parables and morsal stories and soliloquies and metaphors which is what a beautiful mind does too. His stories are interesting but sometimes they seem non sequitur and lose the main point others like Murray was simply mentioning without all this extraneous tautology.
It's difficult to express exactly how constructive and illuminating this discussion is, the fact is, I challenge anyone to listen and not find themselves compelled to examine themselves thoroughly. If you do stumble into examining yourself, rather unwittingly, know that it's good for you. If you find yourself examining everyone else in your life but yourself, I would suggest you're in trouble and likely you are the problem. Thanks fellas, immensely instructive, thoroughly enjoyable and much appreciated, you have my gratitude.
Our daughter has hemipalegia cerebral palsy. Never sued to get a settlement. She is now has a position as lead engineer working for Raytheon. She struggled mightily to get where she is but a huge settlement would almost certainly prevented this outcome. Against enormous odds she has persevered and become uncommonly successful
@LucyMoll can I just ask, are you blessing your God for inflicting the disability to this person, or blessing them that they have pulled through despite the disability
So very much enjoyed this interview. I really connected with the idea of exposure therapy and facing your fears. As a small child I was absolutely terrified by car washes, I thought these machines were going to break through the windows and we'd die violently. I would have a major melt down, some adults in my family thought it was hilarious to take me through them and watch me go into hysterics, laughing at my terror. But my father took me aside. Explained to me to trust him, I would be safe, he would take me through it and I would be ok. I remember him sitting me in the front seat and knowing that my father (in my childs eye) was the bravest strongest man ever and he would never lie to me, I took a deep breath and sat quietly while we drove through the car wash. I was never afraid again. After listening to this interview I see my father taught me a life skill that day. Ever after when I find fear gripping me by something, I move forward into it, facing my fear, not allowing it to control me. I am ever grateful to my father for moments like this in my life. And it's wonderful to hear JP and DM discuss why this works. To me fear is a flag to pay attention but then not to allow it to over come you. Courage is necessary to live life fully.
Douglas just might be my absolute favorite British speaker. His last book was phenomenal. He always has something compelling to say on a long-form podcast like this. He's the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.
@kimchimasala. Don’t look for heroes. They won’t rescue you. They can help, but they are only human and are as prone to moral error as the rest of us. Some of the responses here are over the top. The search for heroes is a bad sign. Learn everything you can from everyone. But keep your dignity and independence.
Jordan is such a sincere thoughtful man. He fully invests himself in every person he interacts with. Douglas Murray is brilliant. A pleasure to listen to these two intellectual icons.
@@DavidHeffron78 amsure these 2 fellows are very aware of their flaws and as intelligent as they are i am sure they try to work on them? How about you?
Absolutely brilliant. I hope that you all love this beautiful, conversation as much as my husband and I did. Douglas quoted the late, Clive James at one point, 'Common sense and humour are the same thing moving at different speeds. Humour is common sense dancing'. Beautiful! Let's keep dancing together to find and speak truth. I am so grateful to these two men for being here with us. Much love and many thanks xxx
I'm genuinely grateful for this video and the conversation presented. I'm a practicing therapist (LCSW) for the past 19 years. I've worked in Drug Court and with veterans, adolescents and now inpatient (suicidal) adults. I am not surprised that non-acceptance and ingratitude (bitterness) causes and prolongs suffering. I'm not discouraged or threatened in any way to challenge victimization, blaming, and demanding things without effort...if I'm drummed out of this profession I will dig potatoes or pour driveways. I appreciate your work, both Doug and Dr. Peterson; and I look forward to more books, content, and continually challenging the pervasive deceptions so many desperately want.
Similar story here, though I started out with risk assessment in the ER, then went to acute inpatient, and finally moved on to private practice outpatient. I'd be very interested to pick your brain outside of youtube. I'm with a good group of fellow Peterson acolytes, though most are LPCs. I'm the lone LCSW.
I’m a 35 year Master’s prepared LMSW as well and I had to retire early due to woke culture creeping in on our unit. I refused to play identity games whether it came with pronouns or endorsing “furries” who wanted to be called “kitty”. I was accused of being “trans phobic” and a “Trump lover” but I believed I cared deeply for the mental health well being of patients. I refuse to co-opt in the insanity and happily retired. Thank God! I’ll find other ways of being in service to others
Therapists like yourselves are being drummed out of the profession by politically zealous licensures and idealogically bound institutions of "higher" learning.
@@AB-nj4ex If you thought it was bad 10 years ago you'd really hate it now because now they beat you over the head with idealogy and then infantilize you with gift cards for feeding them back their own idealogy. What I will say is for most people myself included when you've finally had enough of letting drugs ruin your life and making it a living hell, you can quit no matter where you are. I got sober in a VOA homeless shelter, while I was there I witnessed tremondous abrupt violence, suicide, drugs were everywhere, corruption amongst the staff everything from having sex with residents, aquiring drugs for them, stealing from residents, faking drug test results, planting contraband etc. Yet despite all of that, including a SWAT team raid of the facility after a resident in meth induced psychosis attempted to murder everyone in the facility with a particularly brutal instrument, whom we finally were able to lock in the bathroom where he proceeded to hang himself and die before the SWAT team arrived. Despite all of that horror, depravity and drugs I was able to stay sober and rebuild my life. It took monumental effort but once I realized I was the person causing all of my problems and that my solutions to the vicissitudes of life we're causing my life to be unbearable, I finally reached a bottom from which I could rebuild a foundation for the rest of my life. Point being you can change, no matter where you find yourself.
Always nice to hear people of high intellect share their well reasoned ideas. When i was younger i thought people like this ran the world and made all the most important decisions... what a shame that often isnt the case 😊
I am so grateful that I actually feel indebted just for being able to just listen to their presentation freely - without compensation. I have never, and mean never found an "informal" discussion so deeply edifying.
It is a tragedy to be living in an era where free speech and logical inquisition are being constrained by bitter, cowardly, racist, ideologue politicians… but an absolute privilege to witness the brave and righteous actors such as Dr. Peterson and Mr. Murray that are pushing back for the benefit of all of us. I cant admire their endeavours more. Truly two great men.
I completely agree. And I found the comment to have a two-fold meaning. First, that he better understood them as human beings and second, that he felt a certain type of shared-experience that they may have been proud of him for braving. I thought the statement was profound and moving.
I listened to this marvelous discussion while pruning in my garden and tidying up for the coming winter, which is the time for growth underground, the strengthening of roots to anchor plants to support them through the brutalities of Texas summer's blast. I found myself similarly fortified. Thank you, gentlemen. ❤ I am refreshed and enriched.
Negotiating your Identity... That has to be the best way of saying "learn to be your best self for yourself and others. Not because you are told to but because you communicate".
Recently found Douglass and absolutely love hearing this man speak! What a great joy to hear these two gentlemen speak. I’m grateful minds like these exist and I get to listen to them.
I needed to hear this. Probably coincidence but my son interrupted the video just before talking about Elijah. I paused it. He said to me I love you mama and then told me a silly dinosaur joke. I’ve been very depressed. I love my son. His name is Elijah aged 9. It brought me comfort and gratitude whatever the reason ❤
What these two great men do so well is ..... listen! They also stop talking and listen when the other interrrupts, so that they have the best linear conversation, and both keep alert and engrossed in it.
Loved Douglas’ sharing from his own life and grandparents generation. Very thought provoking, I’m 68 and made the mistake to start listen in bed… I just had to keep listening and thinking about fear, courage, purposeful living etc… meaningful wonderings about life. So glad you have a community that nourishes mind and character and spirit.
Mr. Murray has such a bright smile when he's around people he enjoys being around. It's a different side you don't get to see from the "media." Great interview, lots to think about.
May God bless you both!! Thank you very much for your honesty and the courage to speak out the truth loud and clear! For me, you are both heroes! All the best to you!!
Douglas Murray has often moved me close to tears by relating some story of people who show us the importance of culture that embodies the good, the true, and the beautiful. He honours them, and by extension, himself.
Fabulous combination, these two intellectuals I could listen to anytime. I would love my grandchildren to take the time to listen to this kind of interview.
My two favourite men, our beacons of light in a world fighting against our wellbeing as human and as societies. Always a pleasure to listen to you both individually but together is pure food of joy that feeds my intellectual health….as always i really enjoyed this. Thank you. Keep fighting the cause we are right behind you x
These two intellectuals are at the highest point of my collection of brilliant minds capable of uplifting the world to a higher standard. They exhibit precision, logical thinking, and possess the essential discernment required for leaders and individuals who, with their charisma, aid in the world's emergence from the depths of ignorance and self-indulgence.
I wonder if the reaction some other people have that is almost instantly aggressive is because they cannot eat all of the information and so since they do not have the stomach for it - to use a turn of phrase - the truth ends up regurgitated up on their bib which they then in turn clean in the comments via what can only be looked at as leftovers and worse.
@@patcris9957 Laughable comment. As though all humans aren't at risk of the same dangers, chemical addiction among them, regardless of ability. I hope you'll never be in that position; you'd be surprised at how quickly your rationality and willpower go out the door.
I didn't want this to end. Second time hearing the Professor mentioning Rex Murphy was classy. Thank you for the discussion with Douglas Murray. Cheers from Ottawa.
But he's not elucidating the meaning. He's filtering it all through jungian thought. He never really gets the true meaning. Jesus' death and resurrection is not just a myth. It happened. For every human on earth. Jesus died for your sins. He is the way to God. He is not a myth.
I'm sorry, but I cannot begin to view Douglas Murray as simply a 'jounalist'. He is so profoundly beyond that. I would consider him a human savant in the truest sense of the term.
Never get sick of hearing Douglas talk
Never
He's definitely a 💎
@camaro4ever222 You know that the woke idiots are wrong about the western world still being a dunghill of Homophobia by the fact that sooooo many millions of people love him and find what he thinks & says so thought provoking when 100 years ago he would have been Totally dismissed as an intellectual pervert simply to him being gay.
These 2 talk all these ideas and this is the best brain thought you could come up with .
How does it benefit anything in anway that you tell us all that you like listening to him? Guess what. The rest of us didn't need to know that.
I like bananas in a smoothie. So fucking what.
@@WillThomson-st6hm you are a tool
This combination of brains & verbal finesse is something to strive for
You are forgetting the good and deep heart! Why is it just the "brain"?? Cheats and villains can have brain, even verbal finesse - but where does that take them?
“…but only the mentally fit, carry on…”PROTOJE,’EVIL DISPLAY’ (good message in song)
verbal finesse - yes that's the phrase i was looking for describing douglas to a friend
You either have brains or not, can’t strive for that
This is what a college education is supposed to produce.
I just finished watching the entire Munk Debate between Douglas Murray, Matt Taibbi, Malcolm Gladwell, Michelle Goldberg. Douglas Murray is a beast at debates. Seeing Douglas Murray and Dr. Peterson discuss issues is a privilege. This is the kind of intellectual discussion that society is desperately missing in 2023.
But the left have moved away from these two, the left has gone mad all over the west
Not when you describe it like that
Allow me, please, to echo your entire comment. This is June 2024, and we are still desperately missing articulate, informed discussion. ( Best regards !!!)
Same!
August 2024. Loving this ❤
Great discussion. Im 70. I was raised by a father who was by definition a quadraplegic due to polio as an infant. He taught me to love God and live each day in gratitude. What a great gift he gave me.
A very good attitude considering the circumstances.
Amen. Almost a superpower nowadays. Hope you have endeavored to pay that gift forward. God bless
As God has shown you so much compassion do you do the same to animals? Are you a vegetarian like me? Or do you expect compassion when you don’t give it to the children and babies and wives of other creatures?
@thomas2much601 are you OK?
@@Tapireef I'm great. Polio does not transfer to an offspring. He had polio in 1912.
The way Douglas Murray talks and carries himself is such a throwback. I feel like I’m watching a 1950s and 1960s intellectual when they’re invited on a talk-show.
Well said
YES! I see a Twinge of Kenneth Williams when he was being serious.
Remember he is from a working class family who was able to get a scholarship to Eton. Shame that he feels he can't be himself.
You must be referring to the high standards on display. Enjoy your baseball caps and hoodies.
@@foofkanonHe's from a middle class family. Can you explain why you don't think he is being himself?
A 55 year old working class fella here who recently discovered and loves listening to these types of conversations. Not just the topics but the eloquence within them . Thanks Jordan, Douglas.
❤
Two of the best right here, intellectual tsunami :)
How did you find Jordan? I’m from the US and found him through political friends. Glad I did. Ha.
51 year old father of a 6 year old boy. I thank you JP and Douglas a million times over.
I'm with you, Mark. Dr. Peterson and Douglas Murray are gems. As is (IMHO) Sam Harris and also the fabulous duo podcasters Glenn Loury & John McWhorter. Passing along in case you might not be familiar. Enjoy!
My son was severely disabled, non verbal and had cerebral palsy and spastic quadriplegia, he also had the best laugh in the world, an amazing personality and a love for life and music until he took his last breath at 27 years old. I don’t think the value of someone else’s life should be decided by any outside force, and especially not a bunch of corrupt, lying, narcissistic politicians.
Wonderful observation from personal experience, that's the voice we need to hear more of.
Amazing that he left you such a beautiful memory! May he rest in peace.
I am a full time carer for my severely autistic 22 year son. Ill be doing this job, happily, till I die. I understand exactly what you mean mate. Reading that you lost your boy made me cry. Although my son has a mental age of a five year old, I can not imagine losing him because he's taught me more about life than any philosopher. I'm so sorry...
@@anthonybrett I was very lucky and blessed to have him in my life as long as I did, his prognosis according to Doctor’s was that they didn’t think he would live past 11 years of age, so I was blessed with many more years than that and each one of those years was a gift for me, as he was an amazing human despite his life being very difficult and him often being in more pain than anyone should be. I was very lucky to have him in my life. I wish you and your son many more years of time together, but in the end it’s never enough years when your child goes before you do, I hope that is something you never have to face. I have a lot of happy memories and the belief he is somewhere better than here and no longer in anymore pain.❤️
@@ladidaohoh3168 You guys just broke my heart, while simultaneously making my day. Thank you for your generosity. Ain't the internet strange...
I am grateful for Douglas Murray every day!
I am grateful too,
For what…what is he doing to change the status quo? Will he step out from behind his well paying camera work and get dirty with the rest of us him and Peterson. Just like government that wants you to go to war to die for them .
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I’m grateful for JP every day. I enjoy listening to him bc besides being a highly intellectual and knowledgable man he’s also a spiritual man with a conscience and a soul. So many people nowadays don’t have a soul.
Same! JP and DM
In a world full of madness, listening to sane people like you is highly needed
“….but only the mentality for carry on..” PROTOJE, ‘EVIL DISPLAY’ ( great message in the music)
these are extremely charming and beautiful men, they could easily be selected as Hollywood actors just for their physical appearance, now add to that their brains, winsdom and knowledge, it´s a priviledge (and I am NOT a gay man)
@@kaledon6 You are a bit. I'd let Douglas buy me a drink
@@dannffc Well. I'd let Jordan buy me a drink :)
How do you gauge sanity though? The actions of the majority? or people you happen to agree with?
I'm never more focused on every word someone's saying than I am when listening to Douglas. He truly uses language to its fullest potential
CHILE ARGENTINA AURORA AUSTRAL
I heartily agree!!!
He comes across as a horses hoof
@@nopankonochicken710 total ass hole
Douglas Murray and Jordan Peterson... the most sensible, decent and admirable two men I can think of letting us in on their conversation - what a privilege!
DM & JP aren't "letting you in". Internet hardware and the google corporation "let you in" on the conversation... and DM & JP get paid for it by other corporations' advertising budgets.
...this was not to criticize, just to clarify.
I like how Douglas steered away from the Lecture, and YET, here we go again. 😂😅
Since Jordan joined the Wire, he has CHANGED.
He's heavy into RELIGION and keen to PREACH.
I'm disappointed that he Always comes back to Preaching. 😢
@@Sweethands4. What are you trying convey here. What is wrong with payment for expounding one’s knowledge. Not many around in their league.
@salbonesally. Absolutely agree.Douglas is in a league of hie own.
Douglas is a great listener as well as speaker. A very patient man.
he'd need patience with JP to even try to get a word in edgeways, I'm not sure why he turned up as he seems there to listen
Murray's book War on the West is by far the most thorough and honest discussion about a very real collapse of Western Civilization right now - absolutely mind blowing.
What’s mind blowing is how that’s the conclusion you’ve come to.
A decent book, but the best? Certainly not
@@seanhobbinsNot to worry, your complaint has been seen and will automatically be forwarded to the manager. Thanks for your input Karen
It's an amazing book, no doubt. Absolutely loved it.
@@seanhobbinsby which we must assume that you disagree. You don't think Douglas's book was original and important? Can you offer another analysis of the state of Western culture that does a better job?
Douglas represents everything I love about British people! Such a character!
I am so perplexed by those Western "intellectuals" who decided that since Western civilization has imperfections, it should be destroyed. Instead, they admire adepts of any idea that might even sound nice on the surface, from communism to Islamism, as long as it helps to destroy Western civilization. It happened in Russia, it happened in Germany - but these folks learned nothing, because they hate what they have, and they don't understand the idea of gradual improvement, they need the results now.
@@Tamara-qd5dc- very well said indeed!
The gravitation pull of two intellectual, truthful, real men; discussing societal and individual issues is astonishing. Always a treat, thank you!
Story Time on Steroids?
One intellectual. The other is boxing himself into a religious zealot frame of mind and is losing his pull with non-religious people that have the freedom of thought required to be an intellectual.
@@r13hd22good one
@@r13hd22 no you've misread his work. He is pulling the LESSONS from religion...not pushing a set religion itself. No zealot there, just a psychological analyses taking place.
you don't know how a semicolon works😊
It's nice listening to two grownups for a change.
Isn't it!
And that they have respect for one another,like Douglas talk on death and not wanting the government to have a say over one's choice of death sad that one would want to end their death in a moment....
Yes, only the bible talk is boring.
Murray epitomizes the best of British civilization and culture. As an Irishman, I find it hard to acknowledge our debt to Britain but let’s face it - high watermark of human development. And our man Murray here embodies it.
British under-statement at its peak. Complex issues summed up in few words. We so need Douglas.
Aye,but he’s also a Scot, and therefore a Celt. Can we abide a lie? Whether it’s to brag about something one didn’t do but claims or to weasel themselves out of an unpleasant situation.
It's nice to listen to people who have learned some things that work in life, but also double check each other and finally most importantly keep learning what works and sharing it with others. Leave what doesn't work for people and the earth behind where it belongs. Embrace and share what does work to have better lives and futures for as many as possible.
Talking about a person spending twenty years strapped to a board in a straight jack in the basement of an insane asylum or hospital sounds like a problem that should have been solved around 19 years and 11+ months sooner as peacefully and wisely as possible. Nobody should live suffering like that any longer than the soonest it can be solved. Error and trial until you find something better!
@@druoleary well, born and bred in England to an English Mother, with a Scottish father. So a half Scot 🙂
No he is mine @@gooner_duke2756
We need Douglas to publish a list of essential English literature (politics, history, philosophy, and poetry). Even if it’s only, something like ten books in each category, it could go a long way towards helping people interested in “changing their life” getting started.
I love your idea!
Yes!
Excellent idea
Yes please!
Perfect idea!
We need more people like Douglas Murray in this world. A true gem of a man!
A real national treasure
A superficially 'wonderful idea'. But about as practical a suggestion as saying we need more people like Albert Einstein - as an example. Do you have any idea of how to produce another such ? (and I don't mean do you have an idea about producing more intellectually competent people - but another literally, phenomenally unequaled theorist)
Actually what we need is more people to be as brave as him
I am a sixty six year old Woman. I have been diagnosed with many autoimmune illnesses which are slowly changing my way of life. This has made me realize that if I don't control the things I can control like my diet, I am going to become more miserable as I age. As I moniter what I eat, I have learned that I respect myself more. I have found that I can focus now on feeling more sensations that I hadnt remembered since I was a child.
The joy of being in a warm bath or pool. Also, the soft feel of a fluffy blanket or petting a cute animal.
Beautiful things and music.
If we concentrate on our inner self, our other senses come to the fore and fill in the gaps of what we were used to having. I am growing even though I am elderly. It's an amazing thing.
I have had to look after myself since I was a small child and I have experienced some terrible things and I was bitter for years. I have come to the conclusion that it is up to me to help me. If I can be less dependant on the outer World and be more dependant on the inner me I have found that I am on another road of self acceptance.
It has been a wonderful experience listening to you both. Thank you.
You my Lady have tanken control,
And Are growing, its a beautyfull Thing, at Any age.
And i lift my hat here from Denmark
I have an autoimmune disease and Dr Jack Kruze has improved my life a great deal. Look him on, he has lots of interviews on YT and a website and a forum which are all free.
Wishing you all the best from China, very inspiring how you cope! Thanks for sharing your story.
❤❤❤
Dear lady ! I m in a similar situation with illnesses cumulating etc. I discovered some remarkable contradictory experiences. That inner happiness is independent from outer circumstances like being paralysed during several hours multiple times daily. The body and brain have a protocol and answer and are able to produce in some way deep in the belly a happiness that is greater that all happiness I ever experienced at once. Perhaps the pressure of the realisation that physical death is coming breaks down the legitimation of unhappy feelings . Like : I am so and so deeply sick thus : I am so and so deeply unhappy. That equation breaks down and sometimes the extraordinary happens. Thank you for your post ! You’re my angel. it helps me in controlling the many things I should not do. In order to ameliorate the paralysis at least now and then.
In my opinion these are the two most important voices today. Extremely intelligent and well thought out. Regardless of political beliefs, they're incredibly fair and provide listeners with information and insight that's impossible to find. Thank you both
Well said.
@@dariusus9870Oh dear somebody's got a big chip on their shoulder 🙄
@@dariusus9870 His recent leavings are exactly that (like this video), which is unfortunate given most publications from a decade ago were built on brutally observed fact.... All this god-bothering waffle either indicates some ~wires have been crossed, or he has simply sold out completely to the $church$.
Both men have very interesting things to say most of the time. But like this going into religion is pure word salad to me. As in retrofitting stoneage morality into morality.
@@dariusus9870 Anything in particular you don't agree with?? Since you obviously watched the whole video.
Both of you make me not feel crazy. My family came from Nazi Germany and my childhood in the German community warnings my entire life. As a 12 year old I told my father “we live in America that will never happen here “. Sooo…when I saw a month into Covid I saw the communist tactics and then spoke out to everyone I know. Lost lots of family and friends (also my job). Thank you! It’s the only hope not to enter into another dark period.
An interesting comment
I hope you have found another job and are doing well.
Ouch. I think I might react badly if I was fired for telling the truth. Really badly.
Murray: "These people have no chance." Please examine the memories of the "White Guards", those who fought with the Bolsheviks ("Red Guards"). They also believed that the Bolsheviks have no chance and that the people would understand everything and after a short time will overthrow the Bolsheviks. I am from Eastern Europe. In my youth, I was a member of the Communist Party, until I was disappointed. You still do not see global coordination and purposefulness of sophisticated actions and the power of these left -wing political movements that have entered into an alliance with bureaucracy and the world oligarchy (see Vivek Ramaswamy). And I also want to ask you to discuss a possible collective resistance plan. This is an illusion that you can defeat them preaching individual stoicism. You cannot defeat them if you are not organized! The tsunami of evil goes to us! God save us! And thank you!
Hang in there, you're not alone
I love Douglas Murray. He’s a voice of reason in the midst of insanity. I especially enjoy hearing him break down the reality of the nonsense his opponents are spouting. Having these two sit down together is a treat.
Agree
Two highly intelligent men conversing 🤗❤️🌟
I could listen to Douglas Murray talk all day long. He’s such a clear and insightful thinker.
I would put this conversation on my mantle as evidence on why the world needs to move away from short form information seeking and thought and manipulation. These long form discussions, which encompass so much of life, give us the depth and breadth not to just consume information, but to learn how to think about it, discuss it, and learn from it.
Thank you both.
I totally agree, excellent take
very well said! I wish though people could continue this form of conversation elsewhere, possibly face-to-face. We need to find new avenues for social interaction that are more beneficial and effective for the good and health of our communities.
Not only how to think about it, but how to think!
Boiling down subject down to sound bites and pre digest thought is bringing us all down.
Two of my favorite people. I really enjoy the wit and wisdom of Douglas whenever he is your guest, Dr. Peterson.
I've read all Murray's books since "The Strange Death of Europe", and each has been wonderful.
Its on my to do list to read his books. But its tough, because im not native speaking English and non of the books are translated, so its challenging. But ill start soon.
I'm so glad you told us that you like them .we were all watching eating to find out if you liked them or not, that way we know to like them.
Go read other comments and contracts those with "proper brain thoughts" to the ones that mindlessly go "I like this,".
That's what the like button was for.
@@WillThomson-st6hm
Somebody is suffering from small penis syndrome, isnt he?
@@larscooleman8221 Audiobook mate.I think he narrates them himself.
What a pleasure. Two of my favourite people talking together.
It's simply marvelous to listen to Jordan and Douglas together, the brightest minds of our times.
WELCOME TO LA PATAGONIA
Now throw in Stephen Fry and Bret Weinstein
Two of my all time favorite people in a world filled 98% with fools
I agree. I feel like there are so many who watch these two talk all these ideas, and all 98% of fools can say is "I like these two". What total idiots taking up comment space. I'm sure you agree.pointless hero worship. If you check comments there I mostly just stupid people with mindless judgemental opinions jist like that. People who apparently don't have the ability to discuss any of the IDEAS and can only pass their judgment X factor rating on them.
It's sickening.
Two people I never get tired of listening to. Having them together is a treat and in itself makes my day better. Thank you.
Aren’t we blessed by you two.❤🎉😊
My favourite two intellectual giants. What an absolute treat! Thank you both so much for coming together. Superb!
JAVIER MILEI ARGENTINA
agreed, stephen fry is a close 3rd.
I agree but seeing either of these dealing with woke idiots is much more fun
Superb indeed, and the Lord knows we desperately need them both in these end times. 🙏
I prefer Murray as Jordan doesn't seem to know how to have a laugh or joke anymore he's so serious he loves the sound of his voice and the amount of extra words he knows by confiscating his sentences laden with all these parables and morsal stories and soliloquies and metaphors which is what a beautiful mind does too. His stories are interesting but sometimes they seem non sequitur and lose the main point others like Murray was simply mentioning without all this extraneous tautology.
These two together… I could listen to all day.
Every time DR. JBP and Douglas Murray get together for a talk, there goes the next 2 hours of my life, as far as I'm concerned
I like the "as far as i'm concerned" reference 😉
LOL with admiration for your confession 😊
That's 2 hours gained! Not lost! :D
Bingo
Well invested time:) I was listening to it while driving so I see only benefits;)
Douglas is the best man I have listened to in a long time.
Douglas Murray, yes! Nice to see him back... JP have him on more often!
Douglas is amazing
It's difficult to express exactly how constructive and illuminating this discussion is, the fact is, I challenge anyone to listen and not find themselves compelled to examine themselves thoroughly. If you do stumble into examining yourself, rather unwittingly, know that it's good for you. If you find yourself examining everyone else in your life but yourself, I would suggest you're in trouble and likely you are the problem. Thanks fellas, immensely instructive, thoroughly enjoyable and much appreciated, you have my gratitude.
Well worded !!! His conversation really making me think and wanting to pursue more knowledge into these subjects. Anddd to better myself ❤
Like Frank Burns?
God bless you. 🙏🏻🤍👌🏻
@@Ali.Al-MahdiFeeling better now? Some might feel lifted up by your imagination and sarcasm.
@@Ali.Al-MahdiEsteemed by who ?
Our daughter has hemipalegia cerebral palsy. Never sued to get a settlement. She is now has a position as lead engineer working for Raytheon. She struggled mightily to get where she is but a huge settlement would almost certainly prevented this outcome. Against enormous odds she has persevered and become uncommonly successful
Good on your daughter and you for supporting her. I, too, have hemiplegic cerebral palsy. It’s not easy, but I still love life.
God bless your you and your daughter! ❤
@@LucyMoll we are blessed beyond measure
@@emilyosullivan5692 Gratefulness is always a blessing
@LucyMoll can I just ask, are you blessing your God for inflicting the disability to this person, or blessing them that they have pulled through despite the disability
Imagine sitting down to dinner with these gentlemen. Wouldn't have to say a word, just listen , eat and thoroughly enjoy. ❤
Oh how I would love this❤
So very much enjoyed this interview. I really connected with the idea of exposure therapy and facing your fears. As a small child I was absolutely terrified by car washes, I thought these machines were going to break through the windows and we'd die violently. I would have a major melt down, some adults in my family thought it was hilarious to take me through them and watch me go into hysterics, laughing at my terror. But my father took me aside. Explained to me to trust him, I would be safe, he would take me through it and I would be ok. I remember him sitting me in the front seat and knowing that my father (in my childs eye) was the bravest strongest man ever and he would never lie to me, I took a deep breath and sat quietly while we drove through the car wash. I was never afraid again. After listening to this interview I see my father taught me a life skill that day. Ever after when I find fear gripping me by something, I move forward into it, facing my fear, not allowing it to control me. I am ever grateful to my father for moments like this in my life. And it's wonderful to hear JP and DM discuss why this works. To me fear is a flag to pay attention but then not to allow it to over come you. Courage is necessary to live life fully.
Thank you for sharing this memory. What a perfect lesson.
Douglas just might be my absolute favorite British speaker. His last book was phenomenal. He always has something compelling to say on a long-form podcast like this. He's the hero we need, not the hero we deserve.
@kimchimasala. Don’t look for heroes. They won’t rescue you. They can help, but they are only human and are as prone to moral error as the rest of us. Some of the responses here are over the top. The search for heroes is a bad sign. Learn everything you can from everyone. But keep your dignity and independence.
Jordan is such a sincere thoughtful man. He fully invests himself in every person he interacts with. Douglas Murray is brilliant. A pleasure to listen to these two intellectual icons.
@@DavidHeffron78 Sorry to hear about your problem. Is it treatable or terminal?
@DavidHeffron78 I understand the insufferable comment but how are they fools?
@@andersmful😂😂
@@DavidHeffron78 amsure these 2 fellows are very aware of their flaws and as intelligent as they are i am sure they try to work on them? How about you?
Gosh what class. It’s it so great to be able to hear two great thinkers so accessible and every time they mention a book I go and read it
Without even pressing play I know this is going to be the most refreshing conversation I've heard all year.
Update: Play was pressed, and I am indeed refreshed.
The two most courageous men alive talking to each other. What a treat ❤
they seem to spend a lot of time explaining how they are not courageous, they just know what to fear, and that is not speaking your mind publicly.
Absolutely brilliant. I hope that you all love this beautiful, conversation as much as my husband and I did. Douglas quoted the late, Clive James at one point, 'Common sense and humour are the same thing moving at different speeds. Humour is common sense dancing'. Beautiful! Let's keep dancing together to find and speak truth. I am so grateful to these two men for being here with us. Much love and many thanks xxx
Comedians don't look for what is funny but for what is true when creating new material
Thank you for sharing this truth stream, shine more light to darkness and empty vessels in the world.
God I do love listening to Douglas Murray think out loud.
An absolute joy to hear two incredible gentlemen speak on a very high level with intelligence and and a great deal of humility
I'm genuinely grateful for this video and the conversation presented. I'm a practicing therapist (LCSW) for the past 19 years. I've worked in Drug Court and with veterans, adolescents and now inpatient (suicidal) adults. I am not surprised that non-acceptance and ingratitude (bitterness) causes and prolongs suffering. I'm not discouraged or threatened in any way to challenge victimization, blaming, and demanding things without effort...if I'm drummed out of this profession I will dig potatoes or pour driveways. I appreciate your work, both Doug and Dr. Peterson; and I look forward to more books, content, and continually challenging the pervasive deceptions so many desperately want.
Similar story here, though I started out with risk assessment in the ER, then went to acute inpatient, and finally moved on to private practice outpatient. I'd be very interested to pick your brain outside of youtube. I'm with a good group of fellow Peterson acolytes, though most are LPCs. I'm the lone LCSW.
I’m a 35 year Master’s prepared LMSW as well and I had to retire early due to woke culture creeping in on our unit. I refused to play identity games whether it came with pronouns or endorsing “furries” who wanted to be called “kitty”. I was accused of being “trans phobic” and a “Trump lover” but I believed I cared deeply for the mental health well being of patients. I refuse to co-opt in the insanity and happily retired. Thank God! I’ll find other ways of being in service to others
Therapists like yourselves are being drummed out of the profession by politically zealous licensures and idealogically bound institutions of "higher" learning.
@@AB-nj4ex If you thought it was bad 10 years ago you'd really hate it now because now they beat you over the head with idealogy and then infantilize you with gift cards for feeding them back their own idealogy. What I will say is for most people myself included when you've finally had enough of letting drugs ruin your life and making it a living hell, you can quit no matter where you are. I got sober in a VOA homeless shelter, while I was there I witnessed tremondous abrupt violence, suicide, drugs were everywhere, corruption amongst the staff everything from having sex with residents, aquiring drugs for them, stealing from residents, faking drug test results, planting contraband etc. Yet despite all of that, including a SWAT team raid of the facility after a resident in meth induced psychosis attempted to murder everyone in the facility with a particularly brutal instrument, whom we finally were able to lock in the bathroom where he proceeded to hang himself and die before the SWAT team arrived. Despite all of that horror, depravity and drugs I was able to stay sober and rebuild my life. It took monumental effort but once I realized I was the person causing all of my problems and that my solutions to the vicissitudes of life we're causing my life to be unbearable, I finally reached a bottom from which I could rebuild a foundation for the rest of my life. Point being you can change, no matter where you find yourself.
I’m an lpc and I share your sentiments. We’re all here for truth regardless of where it takes us.
‘You have to furnish your mental furniture, and you have to furnish that well, with the best things, because you might need it some day.’ Brilliant.
Always nice to hear people of high intellect share their well reasoned ideas. When i was younger i thought people like this ran the world and made all the most important decisions... what a shame that often isnt the case 😊
Douglas is a treasure. May he live and evolve forever more
I am very grateful that we have these two brilliant men willing to share their intelligence with the world.
I am so grateful that I actually feel indebted just for being able to just listen to their presentation freely - without compensation. I have never, and mean never found an "informal" discussion so deeply edifying.
It is a tragedy to be living in an era where free speech and logical inquisition are being constrained by bitter, cowardly, racist, ideologue politicians… but an absolute privilege to witness the brave and righteous actors such as Dr. Peterson and Mr. Murray that are pushing back for the benefit of all of us. I cant admire their endeavours more. Truly two great men.
Thank you both for allowing us to listen in! The best fun in a long time. 11/12/23. Sarasota, FL.
Douglas at 58mins; "I thought I could look my grand parents in the face". That's a powerful thought very powerful thing that's struck a core with me.
I completely agree. And I found the comment to have a two-fold meaning. First, that he better understood them as human beings and second, that he felt a certain type of shared-experience that they may have been proud of him for braving. I thought the statement was profound and moving.
I thank God for these two giants of intellect and reason.
Long-form discussions between smart people are excellent mental food. These two gentlemen are a couple of the best.
I listened to this marvelous discussion while pruning in my garden and tidying up for the coming winter, which is the time for growth underground, the strengthening of roots to anchor plants to support them through the brutalities of Texas summer's blast. I found myself similarly fortified. Thank you, gentlemen. ❤ I am refreshed and enriched.
What a beautiful visual and metaphor. Thanks for this.
What a refreshing departure from the daily drivel oozing from the mundane stuff of politicians brains.
Yes! Douglas Murray is at his best when he is on your show, in my opinion. He seems to be more sincere and passionate here than anywhere else.
Mr. Murray is now in the top 10 World Hero's for the month of July 2023. Thank you Mr. Murray.
Will have to listen to this 100 times to all of the gems of information
This should have hundreds of thousands of likes to go with the views. Two great men in my opinion. Always interesting to listen too them.
Negotiating your Identity... That has to be the best way of saying "learn to be your best self for yourself and others. Not because you are told to but because you communicate".
This is the kind of discussion that is not only truly fascinating, but also extremely relevant and inspiring!
Lol
Recently found Douglass and absolutely love hearing this man speak! What a great joy to hear these two gentlemen speak. I’m grateful minds like these exist and I get to listen to them.
Just wonderful listening to Douglas Murray. If only I could be one fraction as articulate. Thank you!
24:57 "And a faith -- a recognition that the depth is telling you something."
Very well put. ❤
“Deep calls to deep..” ✌🏼
I love the casual nature of such a profound deep conversation. The type of chat that you have with a dear friend after dinner being served.
Douglas is one of the most important intellectuals of our time. Especially during these uncertain times.
Can we just listen to these guys talk, like, every day? The two of them riffing off each other is so organic and refreshing.
I need to hear men having conversations like this, it gives me hope that not all is lost! Bravo Jordan and Douglas🙏
@_Peterson_B_Jordanhey..
The knowledge base of these two individuals and the eloquence, fluidity and sensibility of their conversations on any topic is incredible.
Magnificent discussion, gentleman. Thank you .
Thank you both for living out your convictions. I appreciate your courage.
Brilliant discussion, the mix of spirituality and intellect is amazing. Two of my favourite people.
This is probably my new favorite interview. I love listening to JP and Douglas Murray talk,
Fantastic discussion! Two of the people I love to hear in any format, and to have them both in conversation is really a gift. Thank you both!
I needed to hear this. Probably coincidence but my son interrupted the video just before talking about Elijah. I paused it. He said to me I love you mama and then told me a silly dinosaur joke.
I’ve been very depressed.
I love my son.
His name is Elijah aged 9.
It brought me comfort and gratitude whatever the reason ❤
Don't give up! ❤️
When I mourn for Scruton having passed away, I see Douglas Murray and I realize there is still a heartbeat in the UK.
Just listening to these two is enough for me. Conversations like this is so rare in my circle and thanks JP and DM for feeding my soul.❤
Yeah, even if I had those two as friends as much as I'd like to I think I could barely offer any profound insight haha
What these two great men do so well is ..... listen! They also stop talking and listen when the other interrrupts, so that they have the best linear conversation, and both keep alert and engrossed in it.
These 2 gentleman are my heroes. Their intelligence and verbal dexterity r saving civilisation!
Loved Douglas’ sharing from his own life and grandparents generation. Very thought provoking, I’m 68 and made the mistake to start listen in bed… I just had to keep listening and thinking about fear, courage, purposeful living etc… meaningful wonderings about life. So glad you have a community that nourishes mind and character and spirit.
Mr. Murray has such a bright smile when he's around people he enjoys being around. It's a different side you don't get to see from the "media." Great interview, lots to think about.
Love both Douglas Murray and Dr. Jordan Peterson - thank you for this conversation.
May God bless you both!! Thank you very much for your honesty and the courage to speak out the truth loud and clear! For me, you are both heroes! All the best to you!!
Douglas Murray has often moved me close to tears by relating some story of people who show us the importance of culture that embodies the good, the true, and the beautiful. He honours them, and by extension, himself.
I have to agree wholeheartedly with you. He had just this effect on me here.
I so wish I had the intellect and the articulation he has.
Fabulous combination, these two intellectuals I could listen to anytime. I would love my grandchildren to take the time to listen to this kind of interview.
What a pleasure to listen to two intelligent and aware people discussing relevant questions. Thank you.
My two favourite men, our beacons of light in a world fighting against our wellbeing as human and as societies.
Always a pleasure to listen to you both individually but together is pure food of joy that feeds my intellectual health….as always i really enjoyed this. Thank you. Keep fighting the cause we are right behind you x
These two intellectuals are at the highest point of my collection of brilliant minds capable of uplifting the world to a higher standard. They exhibit precision, logical thinking, and possess the essential discernment required for leaders and individuals who, with their charisma, aid in the world's emergence from the depths of ignorance and self-indulgence.
What about getting addicted to pills is the highest point of human ability? Ya know like jp did
@rodrigolumi Well said. Peak humans, they’re still fallible humans, but can encourage us each to find our purpose.
@@patcris9957Ahh so if someone has flaws.... Get it straight, no-one is perfect, you're not engaging in argument, you're avoiding argument.
I wonder if the reaction some other people have that is almost instantly aggressive is because they cannot eat all of the information and so since they do not have the stomach for it - to use a turn of phrase - the truth ends up regurgitated up on their bib which they then in turn clean in the comments via what can only be looked at as leftovers and worse.
@@patcris9957 Laughable comment. As though all humans aren't at risk of the same dangers, chemical addiction among them, regardless of ability. I hope you'll never be in that position; you'd be surprised at how quickly your rationality and willpower go out the door.
My 2 favorite thinkers and podcasters. On the same long format podcast. Thank you both.
More of this please. Thanks JP and DM!
I didn't want this to end. Second time hearing the Professor mentioning Rex Murphy was classy. Thank you for the discussion with Douglas Murray. Cheers from Ottawa.
SUCH respect to Dr. Peterson for his delving deep into Biblical and other religious narratives and elucidating the meaning for us.
But he's not elucidating the meaning. He's filtering it all through jungian thought. He never really gets the true meaning. Jesus' death and resurrection is not just a myth. It happened. For every human on earth. Jesus died for your sins. He is the way to God. He is not a myth.
@@diananeuman6222ur opinion
Douglas Murray is one of the if not the best journalists I have ever heard! ❤️
I'm sorry, but I cannot begin to view Douglas Murray as simply a 'jounalist'. He is so profoundly beyond that. I would consider him a human savant in the truest sense of the term.
I find myself entranced in watching these intellectual giants grappling with what aught to be common sense. Thank you!