@@kingstonlovely7404I see what you did there! Literally. I literally see what you did there, it’s staring at me from outside my window. I’m on the second floor though…
For those who don't know the "special three dots" are not 3 special damage over times(swgoh) but in the old ddlc stream whenever a character said "..." matt or steph depending on who said it would make a vomiting noise.
IIRC they explained that the origin of this was in Pokemon Gen I, where an ellipsis was interpreted as the captain of the S.S. Anne as vomiting into the trash.
@@KlaatuDRuffy I thought their reasoning was that they got so nervous they just threw up, ironically when the sayori "incident" occurred was the only time the mc didn't throw up
Sorry i can just imagine this convsersation Congrats your baby in an entity Whats going to happen to it and us Your baby will go to the SCP foundation and you will be sacraficed to it, and dont try to hide we'll find you!
To clarify because Matt worded this strangely: Max Headroom was played by a real person in live action, but his character in-universe was computer generated, and they used filmmaking tricks to make him seem more computer-like. Computer animation was still freshly in diapers at this point and never would’ve been able to handle a human on this detail of a scale, particularly for television.
He's played by actor Matt Frewer who's in a lot of movies Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Lawnmower Man 2, 2004's Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen, voice of Panic in Disney's Hercules just to name a few
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My theory is that the baby isnt really the tulpa, the husband is. The mother imagined herself a boyfriend in highschool, they got together and created the perfect dream life, and made a half-real half-tulpa baby that had trouble sustaining its own existence due to its energy/matter hybrid nature. When it interacted with the ultrasound it glitched in some weird way and disappeared.
@@thewierdoneout Supposedly. But I don't understand that they can actually physically interact with real physical things, that would require some sort of telekinesis on your end. That's like saying an AR being on your screen picks up your real outer glass of water. There's a bit of a barrier there.
The only ones i know are the ones that cant get out my head even after everything. The rats in my brain continue to chew on it like a plaything and i must live with it. On a unrelated note has matpat ever seen rat jesus from hit indie game rainworld?
Once again saying that I would absolutely LOVE to see Matt play Slay The Princess. Fantastic sort of philosophical horror game with amazing art, story, and voice acting, it’s an absolute gem. He should definitely at least play it on his own time, fantastic game.
About Mat's deflection on the widely accepted theory at 44:40 I feel like Mat is saying this from the standpoint of someone who thinks thoughtforms, in this established universe, can only be seen by the people who create them, therefore if other people and the ultrasound were seeing the baby, he wasn't a Tulpa. However, you don't really need to watch the later chapters to know that's incorrect, as in the video where they explain about tulpas, they mention the idea of using soldier's thoughtforms as weapons of war, which wouldn't be possible if a thoughtform's actions or just sheer existence didn't affect anyone or anything besides the person who manifested them.
unfortunately, matpat spends too much effort talking and not enough effort observing with this series.then again, that's his MO. that habit works with the other analog series he's covered, but doesn't realize how much it's hurting him with greylock. you can watch most others casually, but greylock isn't like that. everything in greylock is deliberate by the creators.
While he's definitely wrong with his reasoning I actually agree with him, I don't think the baby is a tulpa. Its an interesting theory but if you pay attention to the dates, I don't think it makes sense. The pregnancy phenomena is an event triggered by the excavation of Mt. Greylock, in 1987. Tulpas without a thoughtform manifestor are very hard to create. The fact that Arnold River's later refers to this as the pregnancy phenomena and that there are other panicked doctors in the hallway indicates that Tiffany was NOT the only person this happened to. So the idea that ALL of these babies were tulpas feels kind of far fetched to me, especially since this is BEFORE unit 13 was constructed. Alex Marsh, Tiffany's husband, is a part of the Thoughtform Manifestor program, but the earliest date we get from the tapes for that is 1993, a full 6 years after The pregnancy phenomena and Tiffany's death.
@@nicsosa369 He's reacting and making brief comments. Not making a committal theory. After all, that's now Tom's job anyways. He observes enough to get the gist and his comments aren't that bad either. You're being dramatic. Besides, half of the audio in the series is hard to hear, too, and he doesn't talk over it, he talks after it. I don't blame him. To blame him for casting doubt on a theory that is anything but guaranteed is harsh. There's 0 precedent for a thoughtform just going poof and vanishing like this, 0 mention of reasons as to why it could happen, and 0 reason to expect Tiffany to suddenly doubt her baby's existence and thereby delete it (unless you think, and factor in her excessive desperation as in the case of irl false pregnancies, and maybe correlate that with excessive worry and doubt too).
That wasn't Matt's reasoning from what I heard, and there's no need to go on with the "widely accepted" appeal to authority, it's not like Matt had any way of, well, ruminating over it for months. Matt simply said that the whole "it vanished because of the scrutiny" felt off, because it's not like it wasn't already put under scrutiny just... 30 seconds prior, when they were all looking and going "whoa, look, he's kicking again etc". She literally saw "her baby" and then what? Randomly doubted its existence in spite of that, causing it to physically vanish? The sudden vanishing just didn't seem to have a good cause. And I still don't think it does. Thoughtforms spontaneously disappearing isn't something with a precedent, and even if you accept the plausible idea that letting go of the strong thoughts would harm or even delete the thoughtform, I don't see any way in which the mother had fair cause to doubt anything. Unless maybe she was internally harboring doubts the entire time, which, come to think of it, might make sense, since the thoughtform was born out of her immense desperation, and with such desperation might also come a whole lot of worry and doubt. But that's... not exactly something I'd expect Matt to consider in a brief in the moment commentary. Remember, he isn't fully theorizing here, just reacting and making brief comments and guesses.
43:15 I've heard this too. People can become so convinced that they're pregnant, sick etc that their body actually starts displaying the appropriate symptoms.
Max Headroom was never CG. He was played by the actor Matt Frewer in some serious makeup. The show started as a UK movie and was then picked up for a US tv show. Max Headroom was actually NOT the main character, at least not at first. This is going back a ways, but the main character was a reporter named Edison Carter, who was also played by Matt Frewer. I loved the UK movie and the show when it came out in the US, I was in middle school at the time. Blipverts, ye gods! I think the first episode shows somebody getting data from Simiodyn, and the subsequent episodes are showing the data that was taken. That's why there are glitches and the episodes are sorta all over the place.
I thought Mandela Catalogue was peak analogue horror but Greylock absolutely blew my mind. There's some really good stuff out there but there's just something about Greylock that is a lot more fascinating to me.
@@DrkRyu I wish I felt the same. Maybe its the video quality or how motion sick all the camera motion makes me, but I dont find it nearly as scary/compelling.
@@Kyosumarii don’t think Mandela has as many visuals as greylock, so you may be just more imaginative than some people, and that allows Mandela to be more appealing. But I think greylock has more appeal to most because it hits a lot of bases. Religion, buried artifacts, governmental coverups, greedy conglomerates, pregnancy horror etc
'Do you know what they did up there' as another youtuber, Emortal Marcus, pointed out, could point at the first moon landing related to the events of the series as the person in one of the tapes, who is likely one of that home intruders, stares at the moon at the end of the tape
On mobile (or at least on a tablet) if you hold down the screen, it starts playing at 2x speed. The issue is that sometimes my cat laying against it or something like a wrapper will activate as a tap and hold so suddenly things will just happen very fast when I’m not paying attention lol
"Aahh the screams of the children in the night! More applause. Love it!" And there goes another quote for the infinite MatPat out-of-context compilations
I had a feeling Greylock was in reference to Mt. Greylock. With the MA broadcast, this is absolutely Western MA, around the Berkshires (Tanglewood & Jacob’s Pillow). I’m living for this.
54:32 this is where the auto generated close captions can fail you. Having this on in the bachground I clearly heard "Carvings in stone" and was wondering why Matt and Ash were going on and on about stones being manmade when that wasn't what the recording said, then I turned to look at the video and saw the auto generated close captions. Just stating the whole tape makes a lot more sense when you realize it is "Carvings in stone" not "Carvings and stone." Edit: Apparently I'm the insane one because the official captions also say it "Carvings and stone" which I guess is just a weird way of speaking.
I was just about to comment on this!! If you listen without looking, the actor seems to say “in stone,” so it is possible that’s what the original script was and whoever was on subtitle duty got their wires crossed or even a typo made it onto the script! Whether it was a typo on the script, error transcribing, or whatever else, it is still far more likely what the character was meant to have said, because otherwise the line makes very little sense. Least as far as I can tell.
I like how almost all of the jokes and gags they make overstay their welcome for so long you would think it would get akward at some point, and it does BUT it goes much past that akward point so it becomes funny again
Ash no, don't tell him about our special three dots! We can't let them in on this, or they'll have knowledge to everything we've been planning! Let's all keep our dots closed!
Wasn't there something in the first or second tape that said that tulpas could be seen by others too? So the baby thing could absolutely be right if it was a tulpa.
Also they said that any tulpas that are extracted from those people would be put into containment. I would say that maybe those tunnels were where the tulpas were being kept if there wasn't artifacts(?) down there.
Sure, but there are other things casting doubt on it, too. Like... why tf did it vanish? You could say "scrutiny" but, as Matt said, they were just watching it kick around and believing as much a second ago, so to suddenly doubt it would be odd.
Hey, just wondering if you could start numbering these sometimes? I love these videos but it’s hard to keep track of things and order of videos sometimes
I'm so glad you're watching more greylock!! its one of my favorite analog horrors and im glad its gotten so much attention recently. I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest you watch all the way through to tape 12-- theres some really great moments in that last that I would be sorely disappointed to not see Matt and Ash's reactions to!
Now when we talk about aggressive windows, are we also taking into consideration the terrain on the inside? Because that could also make it very difficult to enter
1:08:30 What I personally believe is, Simiodyn is tampering with their phones so that they can't call for help or anything. They knew about the cave and what was in it, and they hired the mining crew to release what was inside. I also believe that the people who are breaking into the houses and killing people are the miners who were transformed by the effects of the cave - which again, was most likely what the company wanted, perhaps for some ritual or something.
Idk if anyone has said this but the episode is called "sleeping dogs" like the idea of they found something in those caves and " should of let sleeping dogs lye" or they should of stayed away and inside paul felt drawn to the caves so maybe the ghost tulpa things are doing the opposite. So inside of tuplas being from peoples thoughts maybe they're putting thoughts into people's heads?
44:40 remember, that in the info video they say even other ppl can see someone else’s thoughtform. i’m not sure about the “being confronted with it made it disappear” bit since both her and the nurse were confirmed of its existence so there’s no reason for her to suddenly realize it doesn’t exist. unless! it’s just because thoughtforms are inconsistent in their corporeal forms so it wasn’t able to stay for very long bc it wasn’t strong enough, which would make sense-the clip just made it seem like something else caused it to disappear.
my aunt once introduced me to someone as "a very special cousin" and honestly it fits so well with me still being like Muffin the animated australlian dog at age 25 so i just ran with it and now introduce myself that way, put in on my name tag when we had an extended family reunion
Hey Mat, in an earlier tape, they said the thought forms can be seen and interacted to by other people besides the one who manifested. So the nurse seeing the thought form baby would make sense in the canon.
It’s fascinating to me how many analog horror series feature either pregnancies that get terminated or mothers losing very young children. So far, I have seen it in Monument Mythos Greylock, and the Mandela Catalog
Maybe the "do you know what they did up there this is the consequence" is referring to the thoughtforms manifesting into our world physically, maybe there were so many or just the fact that they are so solidly in reality now that the cave is open and in the thoughtforms place had to be taken up by something are real humans disappearing like the baby did? And maybe its just now that this is an issue because those tunnels kind of sealed up the very solid and grounded tulpas, whereas before the tulpas were weaker and more like ghosts or phantoms of thoughts. I've watched this series so many times and watching this video with just that context made that click in my brain for the first time. Maybe its kind of like an imaginary friends "relm" or alternate timeline that these things are being pulled from and something needs to be put back in that relm in their place
The clock rotates and the indestructible movement of time continues. The time for Him is soon to arise, not long now. He welcomes you to His mind, but It knows what that means. It knows the truth. Every detail matters.
not sure it's really going to happen anymore, except for special occasions... or when matpat is no longer the host. matpat himself has a very busy life, even though he is 'retired'. that is the reason why the shows haven't been live for a long time now.
Going off what matpat said what if the “you seen what they did up there” is the group Paul was with and breaking them free and there for the woman who had the child is the “consequences”. The person going up the mountain could very well be the same person who the revived Paul’s messages and is going up to investigate, therefore also falling into the trap where Paul died and that’s why the radio shifted from “don’t go to the devil” to “the devil has a plan for you”. Final bit: also kind of think the break in “thought forms” (?) are made from the fear of simple folk who might have found out about the thoughtforms or that something wrong happened on the mountain. Orrrrr the thought forms have moved down the mountain(as I believe matpat said)
you know that gloopy stuff at the end reminds me of the orientation tape when it mentioned thought forms that are the embodiments of emotions so maybe they were attacked by an embodiment of despair/paranoia?
I did NOT taste the clear burger and EVEN I was gagging when Matt brought it up…. Ash, I sympathize with you for having to eat that disgusting ABOMINATION that SAUNTI (I hope I spelled his name right) made…. No one deserved to eat it….. 🤢🤮
This was one of the best GTLive videos yet, there were some DEEP thoughts in there. Hope we continue this series, I'm super intrigued to see where this is leading
"We will approach him and look him in the eye - as an equal." Literally one of the hardest and most chilling lines I've ever heard in an analogue horror. Greylock is seriously so well executed. I want a game version like the one we have for Mandela!!
5:10 "If your internet is not creamier than it was before" The innuendo king strikes again 👑 🍦 16:12 "It's such a weird piece of cultural arcana" Yeah, I'd never heard/seen Max Headroom (or even the term "cultural arcana", which refers to obscure or esoteric knowledge within a specific culture). 28:57 "Is that (special three dots) a female issue that I should be aware?" That DDLC reference (they heaving whenever there was an ellipsis in dialogue) was a deep cut (Ash's a real GTLiver). "Special" really is a dangerous word, especially when it comes to food (like "special ingredient"). 50:38 Yeah, the question of what consciousness is hasn't unfortunately been solved yet (in philosophy of mind, it's called the hard problem of consciousness). Also, it is even debated whether consciousness is an emergent property of a multicellular organism or not (exactly because we don't what it is or how it works). 55:46 That's the "curse" of Tutankhamun, which was a legend claiming a curse was placed on pharaoh Tutankhamun's tomb to protect his mummy (anyone who disturbed it would suffer bad luck, illness, or even death). That myth was fueled by the fact Lord Carnarvon, who financed the excavation, died a few months after the tomb was opened. One of the possible hypotheses is that it was caused by various bacteria and fungi that were growing inside the tomb.
I really hope Mat gets to watch the current last tape, it explains a lot and is one of the best ones in the series so far. Greylock is infinitely better than Mandela in my opinion. It just feels way more scary and the slow burn helps too.
Omg they referenced the special three dots. I've been begging for Ash to play Doki Doki for so long. Even if she already knows the game, I'd love to just see her play it. It would ne such a throwback.
The title of the last video reminds me to the phrase "let sleeping dogs lie", which can point at the idea that they should have left alone whatever they've found in that tunnel.
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I'll say it once again, that baby got sent to the backwombs
Very much so.
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I both love and hate this. Very funny but seem too much Backrooms...qcq
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Fun fact! Greylock is a real place in Massachusetts, it’s a mountain on the northwestern side and it’s the highest point in the state!
Oh no now I'm more scared YEAAAAAAAAAHHHH
I live in MA…am I cooked
@@delle.theninthplane dont *think* too hard about it
on my way
@@kingstonlovely7404I see what you did there! Literally. I literally see what you did there, it’s staring at me from outside my window. I’m on the second floor though…
One time my special three dots disappeared for months... It scared me, but they eventually came back.
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@@GhostCarter-py4nqme too
I don't miss my special 3 dots when they are gone.
Yeah that's happened to me too but I listen to children scre- I mean "applause" and my 3 dots come back
For those who don't know the "special three dots" are not 3 special damage over times(swgoh) but in the old ddlc stream whenever a character said "..." matt or steph depending on who said it would make a vomiting noise.
IIRC they explained that the origin of this was in Pokemon Gen I, where an ellipsis was interpreted as the captain of the S.S. Anne as vomiting into the trash.
@@KlaatuDRuffy I thought their reasoning was that they got so nervous they just threw up, ironically when the sayori "incident" occurred was the only time the mc didn't throw up
That's hilarious, I need to watch this playthrough
Dude...having a nurse say "that's strange" is so NOT what you want to hear during an ultrasound
your baby seems to be an entity! congrats!
@bat_drawssso right
Do they get a replacement baby? Or do they ALSO go? @bat_drawss
THATS SOMETHING YOU NEVER WANT TO HEAR IN A HOSPITAL
Sorry i can just imagine this convsersation
Congrats your baby in an entity
Whats going to happen to it and us
Your baby will go to the SCP foundation and you will be sacraficed to it, and dont try to hide we'll find you!
To clarify because Matt worded this strangely: Max Headroom was played by a real person in live action, but his character in-universe was computer generated, and they used filmmaking tricks to make him seem more computer-like. Computer animation was still freshly in diapers at this point and never would’ve been able to handle a human on this detail of a scale, particularly for television.
He's played by actor Matt Frewer who's in a lot of movies
Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Lawnmower Man 2, 2004's Dawn of the Dead, Watchmen, voice of Panic in Disney's Hercules
just to name a few
@looneytoon76 i was coming to mention matt frewer as well! my personal favorite was the BBC's Alice miniseries, where he was a fantastic knight!
If the first AI influencer is Max Headroom the circle will be complete
Thank you for clarifying, I was so confused cause I didn’t think they had that sort of tech in the 80s lol
Thank you for applauding my lost children’s screams, MatPat. Truly grateful 🙌
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@UTTP_is_Better_ThanAllRUclipsr dude really that's not cool
Hey I'm applauding them too! We're all cheering for your lost children! :D!
@@joaquinvideo2959 put it up to a mirror
My theory is that the baby isnt really the tulpa, the husband is. The mother imagined herself a boyfriend in highschool, they got together and created the perfect dream life, and made a half-real half-tulpa baby that had trouble sustaining its own existence due to its energy/matter hybrid nature. When it interacted with the ultrasound it glitched in some weird way and disappeared.
do you even have any evidence?
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No that why It's Just A Theory!!!
No, he's real. Unless we're imagining the phonecalls.
@Roadent1241
Aren't these tulpas able to do things on there own when they get "substantial" enough?
@@thewierdoneout Supposedly. But I don't understand that they can actually physically interact with real physical things, that would require some sort of telekinesis on your end.
That's like saying an AR being on your screen picks up your real outer glass of water. There's a bit of a barrier there.
Can’t believe MatPat doesn’t know about the special 3 dots. smh.
IKR?? Can’t believe him
The only ones i know are the ones that cant get out my head even after everything. The rats in my brain continue to chew on it like a plaything and i must live with it.
On a unrelated note has matpat ever seen rat jesus from hit indie game rainworld?
I'm so confused, what even are the 3 dots? Am I missing a local joke or sum? Am I being gaslit? I need answers 😭
@@canelitafacha7232...dots to report stuff? or see descriptions. Probably the reporting one tho
@@canelitafacha7232 _psst.... gaslighting is going on don't tell anyone else_
Once again saying that I would absolutely LOVE to see Matt play Slay The Princess. Fantastic sort of philosophical horror game with amazing art, story, and voice acting, it’s an absolute gem. He should definitely at least play it on his own time, fantastic game.
I've been saying this for a while!
I would love to see that as a video.
Such a good game! Time loop plus tragic romance. What’s not to like?
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He literally did? Didn't he? What am I thinking of?
Whoever wrote "Greylock... More like Purplesecure" for the chapter title deserves the real applause
im pretty sure ash writes them
@@Charlie_the_Furry Actually, they say in the description that the video editor’s is Shannon (Bomb0i)
About Mat's deflection on the widely accepted theory at 44:40
I feel like Mat is saying this from the standpoint of someone who thinks thoughtforms, in this established universe, can only be seen by the people who create them, therefore if other people and the ultrasound were seeing the baby, he wasn't a Tulpa. However, you don't really need to watch the later chapters to know that's incorrect, as in the video where they explain about tulpas, they mention the idea of using soldier's thoughtforms as weapons of war, which wouldn't be possible if a thoughtform's actions or just sheer existence didn't affect anyone or anything besides the person who manifested them.
unfortunately, matpat spends too much effort talking and not enough effort observing with this series.then again, that's his MO. that habit works with the other analog series he's covered, but doesn't realize how much it's hurting him with greylock. you can watch most others casually, but greylock isn't like that. everything in greylock is deliberate by the creators.
While he's definitely wrong with his reasoning I actually agree with him, I don't think the baby is a tulpa. Its an interesting theory but if you pay attention to the dates, I don't think it makes sense.
The pregnancy phenomena is an event triggered by the excavation of Mt. Greylock, in 1987. Tulpas without a thoughtform manifestor are very hard to create. The fact that Arnold River's later refers to this as the pregnancy phenomena and that there are other panicked doctors in the hallway indicates that Tiffany was NOT the only person this happened to. So the idea that ALL of these babies were tulpas feels kind of far fetched to me, especially since this is BEFORE unit 13 was constructed. Alex Marsh, Tiffany's husband, is a part of the Thoughtform Manifestor program, but the earliest date we get from the tapes for that is 1993, a full 6 years after The pregnancy phenomena and Tiffany's death.
@@nicsosa369 He's reacting and making brief comments. Not making a committal theory. After all, that's now Tom's job anyways. He observes enough to get the gist and his comments aren't that bad either. You're being dramatic. Besides, half of the audio in the series is hard to hear, too, and he doesn't talk over it, he talks after it. I don't blame him. To blame him for casting doubt on a theory that is anything but guaranteed is harsh. There's 0 precedent for a thoughtform just going poof and vanishing like this, 0 mention of reasons as to why it could happen, and 0 reason to expect Tiffany to suddenly doubt her baby's existence and thereby delete it (unless you think, and factor in her excessive desperation as in the case of irl false pregnancies, and maybe correlate that with excessive worry and doubt too).
That wasn't Matt's reasoning from what I heard, and there's no need to go on with the "widely accepted" appeal to authority, it's not like Matt had any way of, well, ruminating over it for months. Matt simply said that the whole "it vanished because of the scrutiny" felt off, because it's not like it wasn't already put under scrutiny just... 30 seconds prior, when they were all looking and going "whoa, look, he's kicking again etc". She literally saw "her baby" and then what? Randomly doubted its existence in spite of that, causing it to physically vanish? The sudden vanishing just didn't seem to have a good cause. And I still don't think it does. Thoughtforms spontaneously disappearing isn't something with a precedent, and even if you accept the plausible idea that letting go of the strong thoughts would harm or even delete the thoughtform, I don't see any way in which the mother had fair cause to doubt anything. Unless maybe she was internally harboring doubts the entire time, which, come to think of it, might make sense, since the thoughtform was born out of her immense desperation, and with such desperation might also come a whole lot of worry and doubt.
But that's... not exactly something I'd expect Matt to consider in a brief in the moment commentary. Remember, he isn't fully theorizing here, just reacting and making brief comments and guesses.
I always thought that the reason the baby disappears is because it’s soul is being used to form the tulpa
43:15 I've heard this too. People can become so convinced that they're pregnant, sick etc that their body actually starts displaying the appropriate symptoms.
12:01 "Is that why you asked me to stand outside your door with a sword that one time?" tell me more right now
no jumpscares, just eldritch horrors. gotta be one of the best analogue horror series
no. matpat hasn't made it to the videos that have the jumpscares yet. there are a few.
37:18 You could say that he... No-clipped into the... Backwombs
Ash going to protect mat while he change the light bulb story was so wholesome 11:43
Max Headroom was never CG. He was played by the actor Matt Frewer in some serious makeup. The show started as a UK movie and was then picked up for a US tv show. Max Headroom was actually NOT the main character, at least not at first. This is going back a ways, but the main character was a reporter named Edison Carter, who was also played by Matt Frewer. I loved the UK movie and the show when it came out in the US, I was in middle school at the time. Blipverts, ye gods!
I think the first episode shows somebody getting data from Simiodyn, and the subsequent episodes are showing the data that was taken. That's why there are glitches and the episodes are sorta all over the place.
lee will probably wind up explaining more about max headroom when he gets around to covering greylock.
@@nicsosa369 Oh I'm sure
I’m so happy he’s watching greylock. It’s my absolute favorite analog horror series.
I thought Mandela Catalogue was peak analogue horror but Greylock absolutely blew my mind. There's some really good stuff out there but there's just something about Greylock that is a lot more fascinating to me.
@@DrkRyu I wish I felt the same. Maybe its the video quality or how motion sick all the camera motion makes me, but I dont find it nearly as scary/compelling.
Hasent he already watched it?
@@Kyosumarii don’t think Mandela has as many visuals as greylock, so you may be just more imaginative than some people, and that allows Mandela to be more appealing. But I think greylock has more appeal to most because it hits a lot of bases. Religion, buried artifacts, governmental coverups, greedy conglomerates, pregnancy horror etc
The special three dots are my personal favorite GTLive bit 😂❤
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"ah, the screams of the children in the night" so real for that
'Do you know what they did up there' as another youtuber, Emortal Marcus, pointed out, could point at the first moon landing related to the events of the series as the person in one of the tapes, who is likely one of that home intruders, stares at the moon at the end of the tape
I accidentally left my video settings to 2x speed from watching a previous video and was so confused when the intro song was speedy 😭😂
On mobile (or at least on a tablet) if you hold down the screen, it starts playing at 2x speed. The issue is that sometimes my cat laying against it or something like a wrapper will activate as a tap and hold so suddenly things will just happen very fast when I’m not paying attention lol
I would feel so safe with Ash defending my house with a sword, are you available for hire?
Games you should definitely play.
1. In sound mind
2. Sea of solitude
3. Gylt
4. Cult of the lamb
5. Astros playroom
Cult of the lamb might be a bit too controversial and too long for GTLive, but the others sound cool.
@@heatherramirez6141 I really don't see them playing a roguelike of that sort here. Cool game, though
I love Gylt! The message, art style, and game mechanics are incredible. I would also love to see Mat play it.
Honestly, I feel like Mat should play The Desolate Hope, or other Scott Cawthon RPGs, just because I feel they should be given more attention.
In sound mind!!!!!!! Yes PLEASE
"Aahh the screams of the children in the night! More applause. Love it!"
And there goes another quote for the infinite MatPat out-of-context compilations
Even in retirement horror is still his top pick
"He's got the kind of face only a mother could love." Or in the words of Griffin McElroy "He's got the kind of face you could tie a boat to!"
I had a feeling Greylock was in reference to Mt. Greylock. With the MA broadcast, this is absolutely Western MA, around the Berkshires (Tanglewood & Jacob’s Pillow). I’m living for this.
54:32 this is where the auto generated close captions can fail you. Having this on in the bachground I clearly heard "Carvings in stone" and was wondering why Matt and Ash were going on and on about stones being manmade when that wasn't what the recording said, then I turned to look at the video and saw the auto generated close captions. Just stating the whole tape makes a lot more sense when you realize it is "Carvings in stone" not "Carvings and stone."
Edit: Apparently I'm the insane one because the official captions also say it "Carvings and stone" which I guess is just a weird way of speaking.
I thought the exact same thing but the subtitles in the tape say "and stones" too
53:32 The actual subtitles for the tape say “carvings and stone” too. It’s not just the auto generated ones.
@@krazy_kiwis
That's weird, didn't even look down there.
I had that thought too! And I had to go back and… well… now I’m just confused. 😅
I was just about to comment on this!!
If you listen without looking, the actor seems to say “in stone,” so it is possible that’s what the original script was and whoever was on subtitle duty got their wires crossed or even a typo made it onto the script! Whether it was a typo on the script, error transcribing, or whatever else, it is still far more likely what the character was meant to have said, because otherwise the line makes very little sense. Least as far as I can tell.
Omg I’ve been waiting for you to react to this! I’m so glad you already seem to like it! (From the beginning)
Matpat when children scream: 😁😁👏🎉
Naw that's me
I love applause in the middle of the night!
Like you all know it's because the captions deem it "[Applause]" right?
1:05:31 This is how I feel watching most analog horror, i can't tell what's intentional and what's just my laptop bugging out.
I like how almost all of the jokes and gags they make overstay their welcome for so long you would think it would get akward at some point, and it does BUT it goes much past that akward point so it becomes funny again
Video 110 of asking Mat to play “The Unfinished Swan”. It gives more story to one of the characters in “What Remains of Edith Finch”.
Ignore the kid above me and report him
Think I remember that one. Stampy played it years ago.
Ash no, don't tell him about our special three dots! We can't let them in on this, or they'll have knowledge to everything we've been planning! Let's all keep our dots closed!
Wasn't there something in the first or second tape that said that tulpas could be seen by others too? So the baby thing could absolutely be right if it was a tulpa.
Also they said that any tulpas that are extracted from those people would be put into containment. I would say that maybe those tunnels were where the tulpas were being kept if there wasn't artifacts(?) down there.
Sure, but there are other things casting doubt on it, too. Like... why tf did it vanish? You could say "scrutiny" but, as Matt said, they were just watching it kick around and believing as much a second ago, so to suddenly doubt it would be odd.
Hey, just wondering if you could start numbering these sometimes?
I love these videos but it’s hard to keep track of things and order of videos sometimes
Amy standing outside guarding the door with a sword
Wasn't that ash?
I'm so glad you're watching more greylock!! its one of my favorite analog horrors and im glad its gotten so much attention recently. I HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest you watch all the way through to tape 12-- theres some really great moments in that last that I would be sorely disappointed to not see Matt and Ash's reactions to!
It is so weird seeing Matpat with facial hair.
dadpat storyarc
AHHH Im so excited! Ive been waiting so eagerly for the new part!!!!
Jung's ideas literally explain what I feel like. I'm so glad there is some psychological prescient for this
there is so much more to jung's work. matpat literally only convered one breath of air of it.
@@nicsosa369 Sounds like something fun to research. I'm also doing psychology at college next so I might learn about it there
Can we talk about Ash standing outside of Mat's door with a sword?
Matpat: Man they are speedrunning this home invading business
My Brain: Write that down
Does anyone else think a MatPat/Wendigoon collab would be sick?
Scruffy-Mat has almost reached critical levels of hipster dad energy.
Now when we talk about aggressive windows, are we also taking into consideration the terrain on the inside? Because that could also make it very difficult to enter
1:08:30 What I personally believe is, Simiodyn is tampering with their phones so that they can't call for help or anything. They knew about the cave and what was in it, and they hired the mining crew to release what was inside. I also believe that the people who are breaking into the houses and killing people are the miners who were transformed by the effects of the cave - which again, was most likely what the company wanted, perhaps for some ritual or something.
I’m really enjoying the analog horror series! thanks for the video gtlive!💛💚❤️
11:11 Ash, i have a joke for you. "And that's my personal demon that I have to protect my house from robbers..."
Idk if anyone has said this but the episode is called "sleeping dogs" like the idea of they found something in those caves and " should of let sleeping dogs lye" or they should of stayed away and inside paul felt drawn to the caves so maybe the ghost tulpa things are doing the opposite. So inside of tuplas being from peoples thoughts maybe they're putting thoughts into people's heads?
“Ah the screams of the children in the night more applause! 👏 “
-MatPat 2024
“Lizards have faces”
-MatPat 2024
God I love Ash 😂 she’s the absolute best part of the team. Surely someone has made a comp of Ash and her best moments
*Children screaming in the background*
MatPat: LETS GO
44:40 remember, that in the info video they say even other ppl can see someone else’s thoughtform. i’m not sure about the “being confronted with it made it disappear” bit since both her and the nurse were confirmed of its existence so there’s no reason for her to suddenly realize it doesn’t exist. unless! it’s just because thoughtforms are inconsistent in their corporeal forms so it wasn’t able to stay for very long bc it wasn’t strong enough, which would make sense-the clip just made it seem like something else caused it to disappear.
my aunt once introduced me to someone as "a very special cousin" and honestly it fits so well with me still being like Muffin the animated australlian dog at age 25 so i just ran with it and now introduce myself that way, put in on my name tag when we had an extended family reunion
Hey Mat, in an earlier tape, they said the thought forms can be seen and interacted to by other people besides the one who manifested. So the nurse seeing the thought form baby would make sense in the canon.
0:01 ah the screemes of the children in the night
That got me rolling on the floor laughing 🤣🤣🤣
That wasn't funny despite this happening right now irl...sometimes I forget that some people don't live on the same planet as we do..
It’s fascinating to me how many analog horror series feature either pregnancies that get terminated or mothers losing very young children. So far, I have seen it in Monument Mythos Greylock, and the Mandela Catalog
hearing matpat say "flesh-adjacent" while im still fresh off of the magnus archives is wild
So MatPat, Max Headroom wasn't exactly cgi, he was a real actor named Matt Frewer.
Where before matpat would reveal the lore of others, now each GTLive we learn just a little more lore of his own.
Max Headroom did Coke commercials, but he wasn't CGI. He's an actor (Matt Frewer).
24:58 didn't realize slipknot gave up their music for a life of home invasion
Maybe the "do you know what they did up there this is the consequence" is referring to the thoughtforms manifesting into our world physically, maybe there were so many or just the fact that they are so solidly in reality now that the cave is open and in the thoughtforms place had to be taken up by something are real humans disappearing like the baby did? And maybe its just now that this is an issue because those tunnels kind of sealed up the very solid and grounded tulpas, whereas before the tulpas were weaker and more like ghosts or phantoms of thoughts. I've watched this series so many times and watching this video with just that context made that click in my brain for the first time. Maybe its kind of like an imaginary friends "relm" or alternate timeline that these things are being pulled from and something needs to be put back in that relm in their place
The clock rotates
and the indestructible movement of time continues.
The time for Him is soon to arise,
not long now.
He welcomes you to His mind,
but It knows what that means.
It knows the truth.
Every detail matters.
In Lost Carcosa.
When can we get a GT actually live again, it feels like it's been years
not sure it's really going to happen anymore, except for special occasions... or when matpat is no longer the host. matpat himself has a very busy life, even though he is 'retired'. that is the reason why the shows haven't been live for a long time now.
*distant children screaming*
Matpat: 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Going off what matpat said what if the “you seen what they did up there” is the group Paul was with and breaking them free and there for the woman who had the child is the “consequences”. The person going up the mountain could very well be the same person who the revived Paul’s messages and is going up to investigate, therefore also falling into the trap where Paul died and that’s why the radio shifted from “don’t go to the devil” to “the devil has a plan for you”.
Final bit: also kind of think the break in “thought forms” (?) are made from the fear of simple folk who might have found out about the thoughtforms or that something wrong happened on the mountain. Orrrrr the thought forms have moved down the mountain(as I believe matpat said)
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You are the Voice of a Generation ✊😎
you know that gloopy stuff at the end reminds me of the orientation tape when it mentioned thought forms that are the embodiments of emotions so maybe they were attacked by an embodiment of despair/paranoia?
So happy they're continuing this series!
I don’t know why but Ash saying the baby no clipped outta mom was so funny to me … 💜 😂 💜
I love matpat and ashes’ relationship/conversations every video!
I did NOT taste the clear burger and EVEN I was gagging when Matt brought it up…. Ash, I sympathize with you for having to eat that disgusting ABOMINATION that SAUNTI (I hope I spelled his name right) made…. No one deserved to eat it….. 🤢🤮
"What's the difference between these two Pauls? hmmm, trauma"
wheeze 🤣
At least Ash does their homework and watches the old GTlives. I completely forgot what 3 dots was code for.
Yeah she is staying on top of it
This was one of the best GTLive videos yet, there were some DEEP thoughts in there. Hope we continue this series, I'm super intrigued to see where this is leading
My 3 dots are only touched by my sleep paralysis demon 🥰
I feel that
"We will approach him and look him in the eye - as an equal." Literally one of the hardest and most chilling lines I've ever heard in an analogue horror. Greylock is seriously so well executed. I want a game version like the one we have for Mandela!!
greylock is such a cool series oml im so glad u guys are covering it!
we won
5:10 "If your internet is not creamier than it was before" The innuendo king strikes again 👑 🍦
16:12 "It's such a weird piece of cultural arcana" Yeah, I'd never heard/seen Max Headroom (or even the term "cultural arcana", which refers to obscure or esoteric knowledge within a specific culture).
28:57 "Is that (special three dots) a female issue that I should be aware?" That DDLC reference (they heaving whenever there was an ellipsis in dialogue) was a deep cut (Ash's a real GTLiver). "Special" really is a dangerous word, especially when it comes to food (like "special ingredient").
50:38 Yeah, the question of what consciousness is hasn't unfortunately been solved yet (in philosophy of mind, it's called the hard problem of consciousness). Also, it is even debated whether consciousness is an emergent property of a multicellular organism or not (exactly because we don't what it is or how it works).
55:46 That's the "curse" of Tutankhamun, which was a legend claiming a curse was placed on pharaoh Tutankhamun's tomb to protect his mummy (anyone who disturbed it would suffer bad luck, illness, or even death). That myth was fueled by the fact Lord Carnarvon, who financed the excavation, died a few months after the tomb was opened. One of the possible hypotheses is that it was caused by various bacteria and fungi that were growing inside the tomb.
I really hope Mat gets to watch the current last tape, it explains a lot and is one of the best ones in the series so far. Greylock is infinitely better than Mandela in my opinion. It just feels way more scary and the slow burn helps too.
*New rule of the Internet:*
If a game has lore in it MatPat will play it even if he’s retired
the channel has an awesome recommended list to the side ngl, just something i randomly noticed when mat went out of fullscreen lolol
Omg they referenced the special three dots. I've been begging for Ash to play Doki Doki for so long. Even if she already knows the game, I'd love to just see her play it. It would ne such a throwback.
17:05 Max Headroom wasn’t CGi. He was performed by Matt Frewer.
You should play a non horror game with a bunch of RUclipsrs like Dawko and fusion and just mess around. A good game for this is gang beast
28:49 I just remember Matpat vomiting when sayori said she was depressed😭
when you’re so early to the video, it doesn’t even show up on their channel page yet 😍
Hi, the time you spoke about Max Headroom was actually in Food Theory! It was the TTS Burger King episode
I named my special three dots
YESSSS perfect timing to get me through the last leg of the work day! I was also just thinking about this, let’s goooo!!
YIPPIE YAY NEW VIDEO!!!!
Hiiii❤❤❤❤
Yeah Max Headroom could definitely be an adult swim show nowadays or even 10 years ago
The title of the last video reminds me to the phrase "let sleeping dogs lie", which can point at the idea that they should have left alone whatever they've found in that tunnel.
I just got home from a very tiring art field trip, and a GTlive video is exactly what I need
Thank you!! 💚💚💚