Plagiarism and You(Tube)
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
- What is plagiarism? Where did plagiarism come from? Who made plagiarism? Where am I, plagiarism? Can you help me?
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Second channel video::
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Chapters:
0:00:00 Intro
0:05:09 Filip
0:27:57 Cinemassacre
0:42:59 Iilluminaughtii
1:04:06 RUclips Content Mills
1:11:41 The LegalEagle Debacle
1:25:34 Cave Story
1:49:59 The Twist You Expected
2:15:11 The Celluloid Closet
2:21:57 It Got Worse
2:34:24 HE'S STILL DOING IT
2:41:49 Shouldn't Need To Do This
2:50:31 Attack on Attack on Titan
2:58:15 Does He Know?
3:04:45 He Started A Film Studio
3:09:14 The Nightmare
3:17:00 Turnabout Summertime
3:20:01 The Cost
3:29:47 Conclusion
Useful Links:
Chris Scullion's response to Filip's plagiarism denial:
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Second channel video HERE (finally):
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thank you burger guy
Lmao
Thanks Hbbomberguy
Thank you Harris Bomberguy
Nice. Looking forward to the donut in the next one.
I suddenly have a great idea for a four hour long video on plagiarism
Be sure to do stuff like mispronounce Somerton and just say the wrong word entirely here and there
just came up with a fantastic four hour long video idea for plagiarism
something came to my mind to produce a four hour long video speaking about plagiarism
I think I think i saw that one, actually. It was one of the many sources i used in my 4 hour long plagiarism documentary. There was this annoying stuff in the corner i had to blur out though
@@SylviaRustyFae Jamie Somérton
Citing a pirating website as a source is the best thing I've ever seen
Hilariously incompetent
unfortunately a rare illuminaughti W
@@iphoneShothandit's actually pretty based because not everyone that wants to see the source materials wants to pay for a Hulu subscription
oh my god blair is on another level of making $hitty "documentaries". I love this material, love you Sir Harris
The fact that she did that is peak comedy
“I didn’t think RUclips videos could have souls but now I’ve experienced ones that don’t” is such an incredible line and so accurately describes such a specific feeling lmao
It is these incredibly memorable lines that make Hbomb's long video-essays so immensely watchable.
Also a reference to the pathalogic video wherein he talks about his soul being trapped in said video essay
Man this video got around RUclips lol
Kinda how null hypothesis works
That line is so good James Somerton might steal it and claim it as his own.
It’s absolutely insane to me how drastically Somerton’s tone shifts when he’s talking about women. The way he goes from the Snooty College Professor voice to sounding so vindictive and angry would be comedic if it wasn’t so damn disturbing. Literal cartoon villain behavior.
The way he is so fucking smug in his videos like “of course there’s quotes in it nyuhh” and without skipping a beat goes to this sad “if you want to unsubscribe from me for missing a source that’s okay 🥺” is insane
Yeah, like, tell us how you really feel, James
It's sad, too. I appreciate my gay friends because I can have safe, real friendships and community with them without the constant bs you get around the straights. So to realize just how deeply some of them still internalize misogyny has been hard. Some gay men still see women as sex objects, just sex objects they don't WANT and therefore worthless. Which is just the same way straight men treat women they aren't attracted to anyway. They aren't interested in a woman's perspective or opinion because it's not coming from someone they value in that way. I am lucky that a good number of my friends are still very cool people who have avoided this sort of energy, but I've definitely caught a lot of misogyny and misogynoir from some folks in the community.
@@jazwhoaskedforthiswait until you discover the racism within the queer community
i just love the adding of "white" in front of it as if it was a) believable in any way that he doesn't feel this way ab non white women too and b) that even if that were the case, it would somehow be less misogynistic? like dude you're also white don't appropriate genuine criticisms of poc people for your irrational hatred of women
hello, all--and thanks for having my back, I very much appreciate it. Harris, I very much appreciate your plans to divvy out whatever funds you may accumulate from this video with those who you mention that have been plagiarized. It's an incredibly honorable thing to do. Please take whatever might be my portion of those funds and divide that up among the rest. I am doing fine financially, and would rather have the money sent to those who may truly need it. (And, if anything, the spread of this video will likely spur sales of "Tinker Belles and Evil Queens"!). All the best
hope he sees this, bless yahs
I'm genuinely so sorry for your book, you were directly stolen from and used for profit and I can't begin to muster up the words for why that's wrong. Currently going through a rough patch, financially, but I'd very much like to read Tinker Belles and Evil Queens when I can. I'd love to hear your insight, from you.
Here's hoping this changes how we engage with media.
I did in fact order your book because of this video, it looked really interesting
Hi as a transwoman I love seeing queer authors get recognition. Thank you! And thank you for posting this here! It's nice to see that we queer people aren't alone!
Also I might possibly order your book but I already have a lot to read. Regardless I'm glad that these authors are getting recognition! At the least this is a good reading list!
@@DroolRockwormHis book did, which did not fall upon this earth fully formed.
To be fair to Blare, she was very busy abusing her boyfriend and collaborators.
Being a landlord is very time consuming, she barely had the time to not do plagiarism
God forbid women have hobbies /s
@@Sugarman96not her being a landlord too… the more i learn about this woman the worse it gets 😭
fr@@singulariteas
@@singulariteas i could tell instantly from her voice, they all have the same soulless, disconnected, anti-social drawl. i could perceive more empathy in the sound of a dial-up modem.
EDIT: I understand having a dynamic and/or monotone voice doesn't correlate with empathy, but I never said she had a "monotone" voice, and never would have used that word, for the exact reasons people are apparently upset about ("soulless, disconnected, anti-social drawl" is an extremely specific kind of monotone, if anything, but in my mind a landlord voice isn't even necessarily monotone) ..I'm on the spectrum somewhere myself, not all of us have "monotone" voices - me thinking she sounds like a landlord really shouldn't be taken as an attack on fellow neurodivergents... I know a few that not only don't have monotone voices, but are fantastic orators.
Imagine, you're an online content creator, someone you know sends you a RUclips link, "OMG you're in this video" you click on it, it's an hbomber guy video, it's 4 hours long
That's what happened to James Somerton and it was only 2 hours in and people who are watching are still in the process on watching it. He quickly denied it by saying that it was old accusations that was already resolved (in his eyes). Of course after it finally finished he really had no defense and had to nuke his presence.
if that ever happened to me, if i were a content creator, i would fucking DIE
and you’re not in the first half
Cosmic horror
And then it turns out you're mentioned 40 minutes in as a tangential side to someone else he's exposing, and you feel alright, but then he says, "By the way, this other guy? We'll get back to him later!"
The part about you starts at 2:35:07 and goes for 90 minutes.
There's a line in here that really sticks with me: "when someone tries to use language to imply what they did happened by magic, they make it pretty clear they're trying to deceive you." I keep coming back to it because someone speaking to me like that was the switch that flipped in my brain and made me realize I was in an abusive relationship. I know that's kind of heavy for the comment section, but it's been echoing in my brain since I first heard it. Really hit home. Anyway, thanks
Hope you’re doing well!!❤️
@@kinsey7894 I am, this was years ago, but thank you!
yup. passive voice vs. active voice. it's really poor writing, too. "joe changed the lightbulb" vs. "the lightbulb was changed."
"i threw your dead mom's porcelain music box against the wall" vs. "your music box broke."
"we started arguing and i demanded to see your phone, and you wouldn't show me, so i beat the crap out of you" vs. "an altercation that arose from a verbal argument." like the fight was born spontaneously as opposed to an action that was taken.
active voice claims the action in a very literal way, and it can be _deeply_ uncomfortable to have to describe things you're not proud of that way. i think a lot of people honestly don't realize they're doing that.
i recently went through a phase where i watched a lot of circuit court cases, criminal misdemeanor cases, bond revocation hearings, sentencing hearings, parole hearings, etc. over the course of several months, i can think of 2 times the defendant/parole applicant used active voice and didn't externalize the blame at all. even when they're pleading guilty or trying to explain what they learned from victim awareness classes - they're physically in the process of admitting out loud to what they did - they still really struggle with it. they frequently try to share blame to make it easier on themselves. "i was in the wrong because i shouldn't have allowed myself to be in that situation." what situation? the one where your son had a super punchable face? it's a dance of evasiveness.
it's "the incident." it's "what happened." it's "what we [my victim and i] did." it's "we were fighting. i agreed to take the blame because she's pregnant."
they also like to frame the victim as being unreliable by including extraneous, unflattering details. combined with passive voice, this very successfully obfuscates the actor in the situation. "my wife and i were fighting because of her drinking problem." "we got into a fight because she was jealous of my coworker, she thinks i was flirting with her." this is _technically_ correct, so when their wife almost inevitably gets her hackles up about it, _she_ looks and feels like the unreasonable one. and in a reality where she _is_ the unreasonable one, she is the reason he was cited for a domestic assault, or whatever happened. (i'm thinking of a handful of specific cases, but women can be abusers and men can be victims. just for the record.)
anyway! you were really insightful to realize that's what was happening - it's a word game - and i'm glad you got away from that person. you deserve control over your own reality.
I’ve also noticed another context in which that phrase applies: assault.
Sexual or otherwise, you see a lot of language that reframes instances of assault as almost being a force of nature instead of a decision made by a person. This basically always leads to victim blaming in someway.
“If you hadn’t worn that/walked there/gotten drunk/hung out with those people, then that wouldn’t have happened to you” no, what you mean to say is that “if I hadn’t done something wrong, then a person wouldn’t have made the decision to assault me” but you can’t say that because you don’t know if that’s true or not.
People love to pretend that assault is predictable enough to avoid. Get flood insurance if you live in a tidal area. Dress modestly if you’re around men. One of these sentiments can help you avoid something tragic. The other is trying to convince you that somebody’s actions were done by magic.
You’re welcome
Thank you, Tommy Tallarico, for creating this 4-hour long video about plagiarism.
I'm sure his mother is very proud.
Clearly hbomberguy stole this whole thing from Tommy 😤 he needs someone to tell him that plagiarism is not cool
He owns the world record for the most watched RUclips video, his mother is very proud.
@@davidmcgirruntil he walks around the water fountain in his Egypt room.
I was literally relistening to the tommy tallarico video by chance just before i got the notification for this
Every single subject in this video is the epitome of “Why would I need to take an ethics class? I’m a business major”
Not sure if it's better or worse that most business majors (not sure where he graduated from) actually do take ethics classes as part of the degree program.
@@Terratops474im convinced they use them to get around actually using ethics
@@DeathbatOfSpadeswe do
I dunno, maybe if they paid attention in high school English, they may have caught enough to be less shit.
@@Terratops474 Lots engineers do as well, but then the Department will basically be financed by the Military Industrial Complex anyway.
There’s something funny to me about all the internet historian fans insisting he didn’t do anything wrong. Because you know who DOES think he did something wrong? Internet Historian! If he thought what he was doing wasn’t a big deal he wouldn’t have tried to hide it as hard as he did, he would have just owned it.
If he didn’t do anything wrong he would have tried to defend himself instead of pretending like it never happened
I think it is ironic how similar this is to that CNN video Internet Historian made then deleted.
He criticized CNN for suing that redditor or whatever, but it turns out that was wrong.
Then he takes the moral high ground and blasts them and being shocked that they didn’t give an apology.
😂 I guess he has the same moves when that tables are turned.
Same thing with Somerton. He keeps claiming that he simply forgot to credit people because of his ADHD (as if that’s a reasonable excuse to begin with) yet has spent years trying to hide his plagiarism and silence anyone who notices. That’s not the actions of someone who made an honest mistake; that’s someone who knows he did something wrong and is trying to cover it up.
I mean, he did do something wrong, but he also worked it out with the article author. So, yeah, he didn't start out doing the right thing but he/ his team did respond correctly.
@@Kevin-jb2pvHow did he work it out with the original article's author? Honestly curious. Did he share the proceeds he made with the over million views that video got? Or did he just change it enough to pass plagiarism censors and that's it?
You did actually ruin Internet Historian for me since he seems to have never brought it up or apologized. Thank you and damn you lol
Same. It was disappointing especially since Ballon Boy and the one about the failed Cruise were quite good and now I'll always wonder if anything he ever did was original if I ever watch him again. His community containing a fair amount of antisemitism made it a lot easier for me to unsub personally though.
Even if he didn't address it, I'm pretty sure it's probably did a number on his collaborators (ie: OrdinaryThings, who even referenced this video in his 2023 recap)
@@CrazyxEnigmato be fair while IH praised him a lot, one of his comment rub me in wrong way, like he admired that despite he believed in fringe science (like magnetism can control weather), he at least did not shy away in doing some testing himself.
I mean sure but let me remind you that most that belief in similar fields, also done some experiments of their own but of course they either falsified the findings or misinterpreted the findings and still stuck on that kind of stuff.
And I haven't checked on what the suit brought against him was but it seemed like IH framed it liked he was punished for making the hoax about his Son being in his baloon, but if that's the case surely it should be easy to get no guilty verdict since he just need to demonstrate that his belief was correct by testing if his balloon could theoretically lift his son.
Again thanks to realizing the dogwhistle on his content, I tend to look back to his old analysis more critically.
I stopped watching him after that. It’s clear I liked what he was stealing rather than what he ads to it
yeah this honestly just really made me stop watching IH. Strange honestly, I don't even think that badly of it but I guess something in me just holds onto the fact that he just...ducked out and pretends like nothing happened that really made me just not want to watch the new videos.
Imagine being caught plagiarizing by a guy who half-assedly listened to your video while he was building an ikea bookshelf. Beautiful.
not even an ikea bookshelf. an *argos* bookshelf. that's a whole new low
this youtube also got busted for plagiarizing the same way so that is some irony
Imagine being caught plagiarizing by someone who quarter-assedly listened to your video while he was building a bookshelf. Fantastic
@@jesseerven4859 ?
@@jesseerven4859 hbomberguy? Where have you read this?
hbomberguy being hard on himself for overusing "it turns out" but it turns out that with the topics he covers IT DOES REPEATEDLY TURN OUT
first I wasn't not sure, but it turns out that this is actually a good comment
yeah! if you see this, hbo: it's never felt like a weird phrase to me at all, even used so frequently. it comes off as a natural expressive hallmark of your style.
(if you'll let me cook) it gives the impression you're just passively observing and drawing connections along with us as you present info, always returning the personal reaction to the public story unfolding; you leave your agency in the way you investigate and uncover info, and the way you reflect on the implications of people's behaviour, but you let the facts and patterns of people's behaviour just 'turn out'.
I think people sometimes overemphasise style, when most of us are really craving substance, idk. I often ramble insufferably (as above) and I get that as a public creator you're concerned with being easy to parse, but the real quality of good writing is being able to convey your perspective in a connected way. hbomb comes off as a real conscientious, careful guy and that goes a long way imo.
hm, makes me think, though - about the genre of 'video essays'. they don't generally have very good writing... obviously there are loads of dogshit video essayists, but even the 'good' (imo) ones aren't great at making cogent, connected points and theses. they're more loosely connected interesting observations and incomplete explorations; fodder for you to idly absorb. the tropes everyone makes fun of are exactly to do with this lol. careful composition that's reluctant to just make a clear point.
This is a gold star comment.
hbomberguy wasn't lying
That it really do turns out
People dont think it be like it is but it do
rewatching this after james somerton apparently showed his james somerballs online
I’m sorry, WHAT?!
@@amysteriousstranger1221 It's even more bonkers because it was right after he faked his own offing of himself
The internet is the best and worst invention the human race ever made
@@seanfrazee5146leaning to toward the dumbest
Idk if it's funnier or not that it turns out he even plagiarized his damn hole pics
3:37:32 I JUST REALIZED, THE PATHOLOGIC VIDEO WAS RELEASED FOUR YEARS AGO, HE SAID HE WAS GONNA USE THAT BACHELOR QUOTE IN A FUTURE VIDEO AND PRETEND IT WAS FROM A REAL PERSON, AND HE USED IT HERE TO MAKE A JOKE ABOUT PLAGIARISM. THE SEEDS OF THIS JOKE WERE PLANTED A MILLENIA BEFORE OUR TIME.
NO SHIT LOL
Rochefoucauld actually stated this in his "Maxims", Harris did not make a pun there.
@@niklasc7743 I’m not saying that he was lying about that, I’m saying that the joke finally came to fruition in the perfect way, because even though the Bachelor didn’t really need to cite the person he was quoting (that’s just not a thing people tend to do) it’s funny to playfully get mad at the character for doing “plagiarism.”
@@zozzleberryfin1735 True. Misunderstood your comment.
I hate that I immediately recognized it. I never even played pathologic
"If I was plagiarizing people all the time, I wouldn't... have a RUclips channel."
- James Somerton, guy who no longer has a RUclips channel
wait what srsly??? i just finished this video and know no follow up
@@sylvan-dreams He deleted everything and ran the day after this video came out.
@@glyph1869 In his apology video that just came out, he says he wants to bring it back. 🍿🍿🍿
@@cadekachelmeier7251 I hope he gets flooded with copyright claims
@@cadekachelmeier7251Lol. Lmao
I can't believe straight white women held poor James at gunpoint and made him plagiarize a ton of stuff and make up a bunch of bullshit and present it as historical facts 😭😭😭
It was me. I was just so angry at. Uh. Gamers
My favorite comment
@@JonathanSicoligaming racists
@@JonathanSicoliis it because they're going woke and shoving the woke agenda down your throat?
It's always the straight white women!
Opening a nearly 4 hour essay with a quote that includes the sentence "Tell us the story, briefly." is definitely one of the narrative choices of all time.
Oh my god, I've watched this video so many times but never noticed that. That's so funny lol
One of the _best_ narrative choices of all time.
"The X of all time" implies that it's mediocre, like how people described Mobius as "the movie ever/of all time". Not being hateful, just letting you know
@@hwelse i think that's how the original commenter intended it to sound
Yes! It’s also really funny in context too since it’s being said to Harlan Ellison. The man’s a legit great writer but he’s definitely prone to using 5 times more words than he needs to. That interviewer knew what they were doing.
2:16:56 "None of us were really aware-" _cut to hbomberguy_ "James is dimly aware what he's doing"
When James Sommerton wakes up, he finds himself in a stranger’s mansion, confused and befuddled.
“Wh-What the hell!? Where am I?” James wondered aloud.
He rises up, frantically searching his surroundings to find anything familiar, anything that could explain his situation. Instead, all he found was himself staring at a complex, 7 ft waterfall-inspired fountain.
“You like it? The only problem is that at night, it makes me wanna pee.”
James swiftly turned to see the face of a smiling man, who despite his supposed wealth, had the aura and mannerisms of a shady car salesman.
“Who are you!?” James demanded.
The man laughed. “Relax. I’m your friend. Probably your only friend after what *he* did to you.”
Any fear James might have had was replaced with angry bitterness. Of course. *Him*. And his stupid video. The one who ruined you.
The man noticed James’s anger and smiled. “It’s okay. We’ve all got a bone to pick with that SoyBoy.”
“We?”
Out from the shadows emerged two figures. A woman who wore a triangle helmet adorned with a single eyeball, and a perpetually smiling old man who had the personality of a stock photo.
James knew them. They were RUclipsrs like him. RUclipsrs who were destroyed and ruined by that little virtue signaler. The only people in the world that could understand the pain and anger he’s been facing.
The man continues to speak. “I’ve brought us all together because I think we can destroy him. Make that cultural Marxist wish he had never posted those damn videos. So will you join us.”
The man reached out his hand.
James was still hesitant. Out of the three of them, the man who had supposedly assembled this whole thing was still wholly unfamiliar.
“Why? Why are you doing this? Who are you?”
The man laughed once again.
“Oh… let’s just say I’m someone whose mother is *very* proud.”
This comment is art
Syndicate of evil Hb edition
And thus, the Credibility Restoration to End the Demonizing Ideologue Team was formed. Of course, before they ever managed to finish off their archenemy the team tore itself apart over leadership issues, because if there’s one thing the group had in common besides their galvanizing hatred for Harris Bomberguy…
it was that they never learned how to properly share the C.R.E.D.I.T.
This has me in stitches right now
I absolutely love it when RUclips commenters come out with ACTUAL PROSE for a joke
@@PlumbumJelly Thank you. To be completely honest, I don’t remember writing this. It’s the end of the semester, so I might’ve been drunk when I wrote this cuz I passed all my classes. So thank you for your support.
"Also, delete your channel." and then he DID
@@tobyriecke3972 James Somerton
He technically didn’t deleted it (he purged everything from it) but he might as well have
Brilliant stuff fr 😂
@@arnahunas4048He’s gonna try casually come back in future like nothing ever happened
Totally read that in Hbombs voice 😂
Mankind has learned to fear the second half of an HBomberguy video.
LITERALLY LMAO I can’t wait for when he releases a video about Minecraft and it turns into why PopularMMO’s went to jail or something lmao
Anybody knows what joke that got stolen from him he was talking about??
@@Pllayer064 Probably one of the ones he stole from Stuart Lee lol
@@visionvampire1910 What happened with him?
@@durnsidh6483 just the whole spiral he went on after him and Jen broke up, alcoholism and getting arrested and such. Didn’t mean an it as an actual example, but certainly the type of thing he’d deep dive into lol
Anyone else here after Mr. Somerton posted his jimjangles
What is this about?
@@danijelmilosevic3565apparently james posted a picture of his balls online, make of that what you will
@@danijelmilosevic3565while he posted his unalive message on X, he was creating another fake account called The Achilles Boy which he was using to argue with hbomberguy fans about how James Somerton did nothing wrong etc etc. he then posted a pic of his sclong there later on. all of this while hbomberguy team and fans were trying to do wellness check on him because of his unalive note. he's insane.
@@danijelmilosevic3565and his yt channel is now gone, for good hopefully
@@danijelmilosevic3565Jim Somerton did a very bad apology and people are making fun of him for it and also he showed his private parts
The depressing thing about man in cave- it could have been a genuinely great adapation of that article! if only he were upfront about it and gave credit...
Thing is in that particular case, he need to pay licensing fee too hence why he avoid crediting / asking for permission in the first place. IH knew full well doing the right thing would cost him money hence, the plagiarism.
@@dodixaber8968 I always enjoyed IH before the drama but it did always seem a teeny bit like he was up his own arse, I wondered if anything would come of it and surprise it did 😂 glad I’ve still got Let’s Game It Out as my favourite channel!
@@dodixaber8968 would that have been the only way? profit sharing could be another way
@@dodixaber8968 paying the license fee to make a video adaptation and losing some of your money is a lot better in the long run than getting caught being a cowardly plagiarist and possibly losing your entire career
I mean it's full of false information and reports multiple incorrect historical facts so it really isn't
Catching James having the AreTheyGay video on his timeline is the most actual detective work BBC Sherlock has ever been involved with.
Underrated comment
My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨
@@p-__i will piss in your petrol tank
@@p-__how do these bots not realise that they're just helping hbomberguy get more engagement with their spam
@@dhruvtukadiya My guy please don't respond to the bots
James Somerton has the power to do the funniest thing in the world by making an apology video entirely plagiarized from other bad apology videos.
He'd never think of something that original
TOOT TOOT Toxic Gossip Train pulling into the station yet again!
@@surpriseandterror9698i was JUST going to say that I hope it includes a ukulele 😂
"I'm not a plagiarist, I'm just an archivist!"
he has a second channel called gays behaving badly and the comments are still open.
Hbom exposed a guy so hard he faked his own death about it, only to have an alt account defend himself and eventually just reveal he's still alive. What a wild journey
he was found out through a side account where he posted nudes that WERENT EVEN HIS. They were taken from a Grindr I think. He plagiarized nudes.
@@paranormeow the man cannot be honest to save his fucking life, or fake it in this case I guess.
@@fdragon77fk the one thing he's been honest about is the contempt he feels towards W̶h̶i̶t̶e̶ women
Hbomberguy is the only person who can make someone with more than a million subs disable all their comments (even though they’d keep their comments after being exposed for much worse things, but since this video was so well executed not even their standom could keep the comment section positive), someone with more than three million disappear for months (though their fans are used to it, at this point), and someone who used to have three hundred thousand (before he destroyed that sub count too) go in an endless cycle of crappy apologies. All in one really well made video essay that has such high quality that so many people are still coming back to rewatch this masterpiece. Crap, I made this comment months after it got released and when most of us watched this video, and somebody’s still going to read this.
Multiple someones, it seems.
yep.
True
My re-watch today!
wait who is 3mil? internet historian? i thought he had more
Ah yes, "If I replace all the words, is it really plagiarism?" the infamous Ship of Thesaurus argument
"Ship of Thesaurus" makes this comment so much better
A++
I actually read that as "theseus" twice before I finally noticed the pun
@@Demi_Purple
I had to read the first reply twice over to notice the pun...😅
I'd give you money for this comment if I could
"What teenage girl did this to you in highschool James, and why are you inserting fanfiction about her into an article you stole instead of going to therapy?" is easily my favourite quote of this entire video
It's probably plagiarized
what a huge snub to "most fuckable twink"
what is?@@SomeMaoriDude
@@Sorreltail768 The quote mentioned above
I think calling Lukiepoo “the most fuckable twink,” might’ve been an even better line
The bit on Mulan really exposes some weird dissonance because its the words of a trans person of color, whose ideas are very much inseparable from their transness and their Asian heritage, being pretty much paraded around by some cis white gay as his own. Any context that would make the reading a bit more meaningful is taken away just for some shlub to shovel out content while passing himself off as some insightful media critic. Then again, cis white gays reaping the benefit from the hard work of queer women, trans people, and people of color while not giving them meaningful credit is a tale as old as time.
Jes Tom: "I made this."
James Somerton: "You made this."
*Jes Tom leaves*
James Somerton: "I made this."
As a Chinese trans person it really upsets me. I grew up up with Mulan, it was the story that lead me to a window of a home I never knew as I’m adopted. Mulan is my big sibling, “reflection” is like my coming out song but unlike Mulan I don’t think I’ll get a happy ending of acceptance. This man is so horrible, and hides behind being “one of us” against bigots. I LIVE WITH A BIGOT, a man who’s said he’d kill me if I come out as trans! And now he’s talking over some of us in some weird disgusting hierarchy within a place that’s suppose to be our safe space to be equal. People who plagiarize from what I’ve seen are disgustingly arrogant and steal from those they see as lesser.
I can only come to one conclusion.
As a trans dimensional 4th dimensional being I think it's important to point out how many trans people of color have taken the credit for our hard work. We have existed on the celestial plane since before the universe was born and yet you bring up issues as old as time. We are outside of time therefore we have more of a reason to be annoyed. Thank you. Next time check your 3 dimensional privilege before you offend me a being who exists outside of time and space.
@@trebien21 I can't tell if you're trying to be funny or making a thinly veiled mockery of trans people.
@@Kaipyro67ALT just mocking your comment. It's not a competition to be the most marginalized identity victim.
Took me 4 months, but I finished this tell all. And it was worth it! Such a good job.
Its truly amazing, your mother must be very proud!
two minutes a day, quite a pace
I used to be subscribed to James Somerton. During one of the few times he admitted that he "accidentally" plagiarized a chapter from a book, I wrote a comment wondering how exactly someone accidentally copies an entire chapter without realizing it. I will never forget what happened next. One of his fans replied to me and asked, "What? Do you want to spank his willy?"
I think about that comment often.
well, do you?!
This is one of those questions that give you an existencial crisis, both for the question and why it was asked
Lol
Well shit, that's going to be my reply to everything now.
Destroyed with facts and logic
You can tell hbomberguy wrote this script because he constantly tries and fails not to go down rabbit holes in it
"But where did the mistaken weight for the rock come from!?" lol
... I am genuinely curious though. Dear hbomberguy, please make a follow up video if you find out, thanks.
@@SnakebitSTIif you convert pounds (the currency, not weight) to dollars, you get 33.
This is information that I definitely found out myself and didn't plagiarise from another comment that I can't find anymore.
Didn’t ask + hbomber steals my content so he can get more money and views..
@@ville__Did he steal the milk your father was looking for too?
@@ville__ The only content you have is is posting that repeatedly lol
Funny that the Internet Historian was the only one who got some praise from Hbomb and wasn't even in the original thumbnail, but now he is after his fans got mad about this video.
He was in the original thumbail just less visible
I also find it kind of interesting how Internet Historian helps show who can get away with plagiarism and who can't. Channels like James Somerton who tried to act professional and scholarly or Blair who had courted a mostly progressive audience that cares about ethical practices and quality research got completely unexisted, while guys like Lukiepoo, Internet Historian or the dozens of content farms or alt-right propaganda outlets that have gotten aired out in the many plagiarism exposed videos that have come out after this have all just kind of kept chugging along. They all courted an audience that doesn't really care, Internet Historian's twitter followers seem to think that Harris is just part of a Jewish conspiracy to take him down, why would they care about plagiarism? You can just get away with plagiarism so long as you don't have fans who would care about it, they'll stand by you and act like it's no big deal.
Your point being?
@@MeansofIntrigueIH isn't the main point of this video and no one watching really cared all that much about him.
But then, because his fans all descended on this video with the intention of trying to drown out hbomberguy with shitty comments (which ended up being as effective as throwing a water balloon at a brick wall), now ih's face is in the thumbnail of a 20million viewed video. Hilarious cause and effect.
@@shotgun6XIH fans need to be careful, if they keep it up IH will get "second half of the Hbomb video"-'d too lmao
Rewatching this due to the brand new Somerton shenanigans going on on Twitter.
🤝
Spill the tea, what's up on X? I ain't going over there to check myself.
I’m pretty sure there is more, but that’s all I remember.
@@NihilistCoomerLord I love how RUclips has censored some of the replies because they're talking about _"certain content,"_ so it looks like all you've done is post a non-sequitor
truly a shame, but what can we do
…is there a firefox plug-in for this
James Somerton the only gay dude who is complaining about being friendzoned by women
was literally thinking this myself
*whispered* absolutely... DE-STROYYYYYYEEEEEEEEDDDDD
LMAO
There some gay guys who are quite comfortable being mysoginist bc theyre gay (like they justify being a mysoginist bc theyre are gay. They just dont say it straight out)
It almost feels like he's bitter about women taking all the "good men" from him
Idk if that's actually the case but it just feels way too bitter to not be personal
With the death of Henry Kissinger, the last seal on Harris Hbomberguy’s power has broken and he has finally achieved his ultimate form: the 4-hour video essay
Don't forget the expulsion of George Santos from the US House of Representatives
As if I needed more reason to be thrilled about that fucking GHOUL finally biting it
I listen to a podcasts called Behind the Bastards that talks about the very worst people of history and I like it a lot, but going there and being the show it is you just know the people there are the scum of the earth, it's not a slow discovery with a twist like hbomb's videos, but still fun to me. Most have one or two parts.
Kissinger has SIX parts. So I went to their reddit sub the day Kissinger died and I was not disappointed lol fuck that guy
It's kind of funny since the whole reason it's so long is because he keeps playing clips in full, instead of just summarizing them
@@14ElmStreet28He needs to post the clips in full, to make an example out of them. He's criticizing Blair for not showing his full tweet video after all, if he turned around and went "Oh btw Internet Historian copied a whole article just trust me I won't show clips just trust me bro" he'd be a hypocrite
The best part of this video is how the Internet Historian debacle has revealed to me the true values of some of my friends.
How
@@JaJaBi Some Internet Historian fans adamantly defend his blatant plagiarism, dismissing how wrong it is. It just feels yucky to see him steal other people's work and how others don't care about his lack of integrity.
@@JoJo-dj1hj He did nothing wrong. Plagiarism is a fake problem for IP kulaks
LMAO
@@rockoman100 You can't just steal someone else's work, make more money off of it than they ever did, and then pretend you've committed a victimless crime against against a wealthy IP owner.
I need it to be said that being on the Cinemassacre section of the video and seeing all of the comments directed at “James” in the comments section was very, very scary until I realized they meant James Somerton
Now you’ve got me imagining an AVGN-lexicon version of James Somerton’s rants about being used as an accessory by straight women
Hbomberguy is like an internet cryptid. Once a year they appear, drop a bomb, INSIST ON ELABORATING, and then vanish.
He's the ancient koi fish who, upon waking from its long slumber, shakes the Earth, ends a fraudster's career, and further breaks that one section of wall.
He is also nonbinary and gay
@@crookedgamer7183When you refer to someone who is non-binary, you don't usually refer them with "he" unless it's what they prefer. Also, he's bi not gay
Most accurate description I've ever read
It's like the modern day content cop and I'm here for it
Remember, kids: Never trust a marketing guy.
Or a landlord.
Is there even proof of james somerton being gay?
@@negativearms do people need to prove their sexuality?? (a lot of ppl are replying to me saying op was joking and if they were itd be really damn funny but theres a lot of ppl replying to me including op that seem to genuinely think somerton was faking being gay which even if he were how exactly would you prove that?? I SWEAR I GET JOKES SOMETIMES)
I work in marketing and I certainly don't trust myself.
@owo26666 if they do lie about everything else, yes. (and if they are marketing guys, of course)
The yuri on ice bit always gets me bc like, there is an entire term for & community of women interested in m/m anime & manga. Now there’s a separate conversation to be had about fujoshi culture, objectification of queer men, & its position as a more socially acceptable gateway into queer culture as a whole.
But tl;dr if anyone was denying yoi it was the anime dudebros jumpscared by homoeroticism, not women of any orientation
Exactly, James showed off how he understands absolutely nothing about anime or Japanese entertainment in general, audiences included. The biggest demographic of people that consume m/m content is straight women. Fujoshi's aside there's just way more straight women then there are gay men and gay women, and very little straight men enjoy those stories. A ton of m/m stuff is created by straight women and Japanese media relies HEAVILY on merchandise to survive, and women have always been the ones to purchase more merch than men, so women have held up quite a lot of m/m content just by buying the merch. James can hate straight women all he wants, but I guarantee a huge amount of them gave him a platform, and he repaid them with sexism and a distaste of heterosexuality. Man wasn't grateful at all.
Yeah, someone needs to show James AO3. Cis, trans, femme, masc, androgyne, doesn't matter. We all love ourselves some g a y
Coming back to this video because I found an iiluminaughtii plush at Goodwill the other day. Not even a nice goodwill, one of the outlet goodwills where they just toss everything into big troughs you have to dig through and charge by the pound. Likely in part thanks to this video, I was able to take it home for like 15 cents and it's now just kinda sitting in my room earning me odd looks when my friends come over. So. Uh. Thanks?
Mf got a plush by doing nothing
Little "five hours later" update:
James nuked his discord and Twitter, and then posted on Patreon that he was under attack again for "Something we already cleared up". A good chunk of his patrons were not pleased.
delicious
Glad to see his former fans aren't putting up with his bullshit anymore.
Let's gooo another career successfully ruined by our guy of the hbombs
He seems to have lost ~6K subscribers so far, if Social Blade is reliable
That post has now been deleted and a new one is up saying he is sorry and taking a moment before responding.
plagiarists getting facts wrong feels like they're getting a couple questions on the test wrong on purpose so the teacher doesn't think they're cheating
A good lesson taught poorly is worse than not being taught at all. A bad lesson taught well does more harm still.
Hah like they would put in that much effort
My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨
@@Pedro_Larroza I’m guessing these “friends” didn’t stay around long after?
Or it is their version of Paper Towns, so they will know when someone plagiarizes them, because if Illuminati is an example, they REALLY don’t like people stealing the things they stole.
i just finished rewatching this video over on nebula. switched back to youtube and got recommended a video essay by someone called “james of telos”. i just stared it at for a minute and thought “telos? james? no fucking way”
yes fucking way.
Oh yeah. So the fallout of what happened was James faked an unaliving attempt *twice* and then rebranded.
And before you ask: yes, his rebranded videos are also plagiarized.
@@crazyinsane500holy shit what an asshole :D i was genuinely worried for him but nahhhh
@@crazyinsane500 Let's be fair, there's not really any evidence it was fake besides the fact Somerton has lied so often in the past. So it's possible attempted and didn't succeed or stopped at the last minute.
Still, he definitely should he held accountable for his plagiarism. The healthiest outcome here is for James to stop looking for validation on the internet and go to therapy.
@@littlefieryone2825 turns out there is ample evidence it was fake! and he was defending himself on alts the day of it. ugh
@@corihatfield with alts to boot that I got in a fight with one
This revelation honestly made his video on the Owl House make so much more sense, because it's nonsense, he clearly never watched the show and had no idea wtf it's about.
James Somerton: "I'm going to demonstrate how queer women have it easier in society by taking credit for a queer woman's work and SOMEHOW getting more attention for it somehow."
That is fairly typical of the misogynistic mindset, sadly enough.
It's just misogyny, it's very common with male homosexuals for a whole laundry list of both traumatic and vane motivations.
He probably thinks so little of women that he doesn't care that, that's what he's doing.
I watched this video so often i just love that there are regularly nrw top comments
So that i can read new stuff for my 14th warch
bro they do have it easier. Than _anyone_ You are literally crusading for them right now and don't even fuckn know it.
Most demographics don't, in fact have an army of citizens protecting them from the basic social accountability the rest of society is held to.
@@SuperPhunThyme9 is it really easier to believe that queer people, a people that have been oppressed throughout most of recorded history, are now shadow puppeting society for their army so that they have it better than ANYONE else.
OR
the people that have held the dominant power throughout most of recent history have been making everyone else's lives worse for their own personal gain using their literal armies that they currently have right now
An interesting realization from this video is that Illuminaughty and James Somerton are both creators who I watched, but failed to keep my attention. As you pointed out, they’re boring, but as a viewer who doesn’t know it’s plagiarism, you can’t tell exactly why. The subjects they present are so eyecatching and suggest an interesting story, but when you watch the videos, they feel like soulless lectures. This is why creatives are so important. It SHOWS when people who aren’t writers try to create things for engagement. They don’t understand the amount of effort that goes into writing a compelling story.
This is such a good observation! I was kind of feeling this myself but wasnt sure how to put it into words. They're both creators that would occasionally pop up in my recommendations and I'd watch a bit of their stuff, but was never really interested or impressed enough to actively watch anything else of theirs. You can definitely feel their lack of actual passion in their "craft".
This is so freaking interesting to read because I went through the exact same thing I subscribed to Illuminaughty cause I found out about her through one topic and the click but never managed to finish one of her videos, and I found Somerton because I basically wanted more contrapoints content and got a little bored from it when I realized that wasn't quite what I would get, but I could never put my finger on why their videos never resonated with me, always attributed it to my ADHD...
@@sailorncho I had basically the same arc as you! Subbed to James Somerton for about a year and I noticed I was only watching the videos about halfway before moving on. I assumed it was my ADHD but looking back, it’s odd that I assumed that when far longer videos have held my attention the entire time, and I usually go back to videos that were genuinely compelling. I feel like when creators are actually passionate about what they’re talking about, they’ll relay the information in a way where they replicate the emotions they felt while discovering every facet of information. The creators that plagiarize, on the other hand, are more focused on the way that THEY look as writers.
I made a similar comment about Iiliminaughtii. At first I thought it would be interesting content to listen to while working on stuff, but then it just seemed so impersonal. I'm not saying I felt the lack of engagement, it just seemed pretty flat to me.
Literally same. I'd tried a few Illumi vids just as they popped up on play next (usually after me watching creators like Atrocity Guide), and despite it being similar, interesting content, I just found the delivery so dry and the video feeling weirdly stilted in comparison to similar content. Meanwhile I subbed to James after watching a few vids of his a year or so back, i found the content pretty interesting, but every time I tried to go back to his vids after the first few, I had the same problem again; the videos felt weird, and his delivery was dry and weirdly over dramatic, like he was trying to add something that wasn't there. I especially didn't like some of the side comments he made (like the misogyny and weird jabs at lesbians), funny to learn that was the only content he wrote himself. Figures.
Real proof right there that reading content that's not your own, ie audiobooks, is a genuinely hard skill and the creatives who can do it successfully are skilled as all heck.
I fell asleep listening to this during the Monster Madness section and woke up to wonder when James "AVGN" Rolfe started stealing from so many LGBTQ sources.
So the aftermath with James Sumerton makes me sick. The emotional manipulation he's pulling and the people who are actually eating it up are making me absolutely furious.
at this point it's shocking to think there would even be people eating it up. like. he's so cooked it's not even funny
As a Chinese American who Mulan spoke to me before I knew I was trans he pisses me off. OBVIOUSLY he didn’t get his points from experience, so WHERE did he get his points? Someone from experience I feels so icky,
I can only come to one conclusion.
He doesn’t care about us. Idk maybe it’s racist for the Mulan one too, especially since it feels like it’s talking about HIS experience when he’s not Chinese or trans.
“Legal eagle is no longer the one good lib” being read by legal eagle is fucking funny.
Besides, we all know Contrapoints is the one good lib.
the serfs has brain damage lol
oh my god I didn't even notice that LMAO
In the end credits, Legal Eagle is credited as "The Good Lib" and I died laughing.
I kept on thinking I was mishearing other people's voices till the credits lol. Tantacrul cameo made me loose it
the "shouldnt need to do this" segment gives "youre gay because you love men, im gay because i hate women, we are not the same" vibes
Lel true
@@geekzombie8795 he is gay because he hates women that is true
Who said that?
@@chud-of4ybnobody, its a meme
@@chud-of4yb I'm not sure a gay man ever said that, but "political lesbianism" is a thing in radical feminism and basically boils down to "I'm a lesbian because I hate men."
I watch a lot of video essays and since watching this I've started googling random sentences from those videos. It's almost disturbing how many RUclipsrs are just directly quoting Wikipedia
Of course. If they're not versed in basic English class they wont know how to do their own research. Honestly glad I grew up citing sources in the library as a kid or I'd never be a good writer imo.
Quoting Wikipedia is fine, you just need to admit that you are doing it. It basically has an open source license with the only thing you need to do is say, hey this is wikipedia.
@@NathanWubswhat they mean is they start from Wikipedia and work backwards. Then citing all of Wikipedias sources without citing wiki itself
@@bmo14lax The first red flag is that they don't cite any sources at all. They're just verbatim reading wiki articles and passing it off as their own research. I seriously doubt they even go as far as realising wikipedia has sources
@@Watson690kind of makes me wonder how much Internet historian has done this tbh
I accidentally clicked on a James Somerton video earlier, he's rebranded as James of Telos, It was an honest accident/mistake but I still feel so freaking dirty
Normally, I’d admire the tenacity.
_Normally._
@@RozWBrazelthanks for the warning. I'll try to avoid that
downvote and click off. a view with very little watch % should hurt it in the algorithm
@@catfan913 don't downvote even a downvote shows engagement
The bit where Somerton is basically setting up his co-writer to take the fall for plagiarism allegations made me go from "this guy's an asshole" to "this guy is actually evil".
Genuine sociopath behavior, gradually developing a relationship with someone he always intended to ruin if things got hot. Watching him deliberately set Nick up whenever plagiarism was mentioned is chilling. I’m deeply glad HBomb went out of his way to show that Nick was going to be scapegoated so Somerton doesn’t get to play that card and Nick doesn’t get his career ruined.
@@naten1570 I'm glad this video is getting as much attention as it is, him & others must be held accountable. It is not simply about plagiarism, these people are beyond toxic - dangerous even
The way he was always so darkly, eerily lit in his videos seems very fitting in retrospect.
I'm surprised how fast he turned off comments and deleted his social media.
@@Skelath lol he took the flight response instead of coming up with one. far easier than writing an explanation, i suppose.
Honestly Illuminaughti picking a fight with an *a lawyer in good standing* seems like a real act of hubris.
I was honestly got one of her popped up and it was about 'traditional builder exposed' and 'cutedodo' exposed. She looks real. Then she reappears again with drama on her video then gone to obscurity
At least now I know why
I'm not sure what she expected, because taking a reputable lawyer to court (even if it's the court of public opinion) sounds like a great way to embarass yourself in the most expensive way possible.
The Mea Culpa is real
A copyright lawyer at that! Like, how stupid do you have to be??
@@brendaleelydon very. not to mention the effect in question was not that. and the editor only want to use the effect he asked (not the highlight or paper thing) for his own personal video.
And lets pretend that he wanted to blatantly copy video effect. Was accusing his boss for plagiarizing on public forum the best way to do it? Doubly stupid when that person is a lawyer and triply stupid when you realize said lawyer specialize with copyright law.
As a transgender woman, I believe I tried watching one of his videos on the topic, and was repulsed by how... I don't know how to describe it, he was so uninterested in what he was talking about, like a chore he had to finish.
Good thing I didn't watch it it seems, I honestly wouldn't have bothered to check the sources - I'm used to video esseys being high quality, so I assumed he did it because he cared.
I think "disinterested" is the best adjective you could use to describe Somerton's voice. I've now watched this video at least five times, and my biggest takeaway about Somerton is he sounds so profoundly disinterested and non-passionate about what he presents in his videos. He sounds far more engaged in the livestream clips, which wouldn't take much. Why would I watch a video made by someone who didn't care about what they were making?
@@jaduspeaks4754 That's the word, thank you!
Damn, you weren't wrong about ruining some youtubers for me. Well, one of them.
I live under a rock when it comes to Internet Historian, I check his channel like once a year expecting two new videos to binge.
The manic laugh at the Man In Cave bit put the fear of god in my heart.
Worst part is, he has so many people defending him like "who cares, he made good video, doesn't matter if he lifted the whole script and tried to hide it."
We all know full well that if he never got caught, the now probably 20m views original video would still be there, happily linking the sponsor, and not the source.
Not only is the IH cosy feel gone, it has been replaced with an icky feel that comes from those plagiarism-apologists.
It gets worse: Man In Cave wasn't his first time after all. Someone found some phrasing in Cost of Concordia that looks suspiciously like a Vanity Fair article on the tragedy (specifically, on the Korean couple who narrowly survived. Turns out, the phrase "safe but shivering" only returns around 1,500 results in a Google search. Adding "Costa Concordia" to the search leaves Historian's video and the VF article.)
He's also a Nazi sympathizer who dog whistles to his Neo-Nazi audience just like Stonetoss AKA Hans Kristian Graebener from Spring, TX
@@thelonious1310 what, when?
@@strgunlinr2464 Always. Hbomberguy mentioned it a little bit with his deleted stuff and the general nature of his fanbase. He was extremely 4chan/adjacent to start with and has tried to cover it up now that he's more mainstream but the fanbase still knows.
Watching Somerton say "if I had been plagiarizing, I wouldn't have a channel" after he deleted his channel feels real good.
Oh, he finally deleted his channel?
@@leileyaravencroftNot quite, the channel still technically remains, but it's been wiped of everything except its name. No videos, no community tab notes, not even a profile picture. I think he's also deleted or made private pretty much every bit of the rest of his online presence as well.
Ah, nature is healing
A man of his word!
@@Ehh.....well, someone's words anyway.
I love that the release of an hbomb video basically now means a death star firing test that kills exactly one person
This comment rules
The "stop, he's already dead!" Meme comes to mind.
It's certainly thorough.
this comment goes so fucking hard
Or a few Guinness World Records.
I think you really need to read some of these articles to really understand just how fucked up Jame’s actions are. For example, at 2:32:45, Hbomb shows James ripping off an article by Alex London: When horror becomes strength: Queer armour in Steven King’s IT. I decided to read this article myself, and it was a very moving piece about Alex’s childhood experiences as a gay boy in the 90’s, and how reading IT made him feel validated about his fears, making him feel seen. Most of the article is Alex writing about his own experiences, yet of course, James just erases his experiences and emotions and steals the rest. This is just one example, but it really highlighted to me just how damaging and screwed up Jame’s plagiarism is. How he not only steals, but erases the lives and experiences of other queer people, as HBomb pointed out.
Plus he goes "he's emothatic. he's shmertt" while reading that passage and its so fuckinf dumb
"Doing your own research is life ruining"
...I feel that yeah.
Dude I literally just subscribed to your channel today, and I have a habit of reading through this videos new comments. I think I had a heart attack.
Hello being of paper.
I enjoy your work very much. I am grateful you do what you do.
The funny thing about 'Man in a cave' is that if he had made a collaboration with the author to animate the story, everyone would have enjoyed it all the same.
I don't get this hate though. He's saying IH stole the article and reworded, but also that IH got stuff wrong even though it was in the thing IH was stealing from. Doesn't make sense. But I think this is heating up, one of these two may fall
the author might not be the rights holder, it’s probably the media company he’d contributed the material to; can’t see it happening
Visiting the video now, it seems the video does link the article as its source. Was it added recently or was it always there?
@@ry4nmasterKeep watching this video to find out!
it got added after a while.
Subbing to someones Patreon because you admire them only to realize they stole your work without crediting is a whole new level of fucked
Yeah that part hit like a mack truck
I missed this part. Whos Patreon?
@@Peapodzilla2:30:45 you'll get the info there.
@@Peapodzilla someone who subs to James Somerton's Patron found out that he literally stole her intellectual property
I actually gasped out loud.
My favorite part is the little section about other content ”creators” leeching off others drama, not because of the actual section but rather what happened after this video was published.
As with any drama, people made videos about the aftermath of this one, and of course they summarize it; HOWEVER. They leave out the part about the leeching. I can’t help but wonder why.
Honestly the leeching section was pretty brief anyway, and not relevant to the news updates about James and Blair. You don't need an ulterior motive to cut that point out
There is a cynical irony to watching a 4 hour video calling out plagiarism and then finding that mills and drama channels had already subsequently cashed in on the video's sensitive message with nothing original to add literal hours after it was released
I know at least one of them, despite being shown in the background for about 2 seconds, complained loudly about being lumped in with them despite leeching off of other people's drama and literally doing exactly what all the other the content drama mills do.
@@yeeyeeyeeyeand then getting on plagiarism drama on their own
This was an amazing video. Thanks for this.
I just want you to be aware: The way I came across it was that my University course material at Curtin University directly links your video in its course on academic and professional writing. That's pretty cool and I hope you feel validation for all the work you put in.
I'm in the middle of exam season as a university student and this has been oddly reassuring. My essays might be shit, but at least they're my, properly cited shit.
Thank you for this lovely comment! As a fellow university student, I wholeheartedly agrees
too true. And my sentences are so grammatically questionable and convoluted that it‘s clear ChatGPT didn‘t write them either lol
same lol
literally just turned in my 10 paged research paper 3 days ago and still feel it wasnt enough. Happy to know what I wrote was at least out of my own efforts
update: my professor liked my paper so i passed the sem knowing ive done more for my own benefit than james somerton ever could 🎉🎊🥳
This! Like, I get all anxious about whether the sentence I wrote sounds maybe very slightly a bit like something else - I can't comprehend the audacity of these people!
this video was amazing for my mental health, because no matter how shitty i'm feeling and how strong the imposter syndrome is, i can at least look into the mirror and say with 110% confidence that i'm not james somerton
Ah me too!! I'm glad I'm not the only one hahaha!
That’s a really great insight! I usually rewatch the Spider-Verse movies to help with my imposter syndrome, but they haven’t been that much help lately.
I have a feeling being gay is his whole identity and has nothing interesting about him.
You sure? Check again.
And you have a disco elysium profile picture so you are already a gigachad, love
illuminaughti using a piracy site as a cited source would be based if she didnt double-steal the documentary by also plagiarizing it
Yeah, everyone's dunking on her for that bit, but I honesty think it kinda rules, even if it was just another case of her being lazy. Information wants to be free
Even if it is based it's not proper citation
@@kawaiimunismhow dare people want to be paid for information they curated and made videos about for people to watch
@@tack3545 (1) everyone involved in the documentary already got paid; (2) the slogan "information wants to be free" refers to libre freedom, not gratis; (3) piracy is good lol, abolish ip
@@tack3545 (1) everyone involved in the Hulu documentary already got paid for it; (2) the slogan "information wants to be free" refers to libre freedom, not gratis; (3) piracy is good lol, abolish ip
blaire changing the rules after breaking them is some real animal farm type shit.
She's like that kid at the playground who keeps making up new rules as she goes along just to win
James has an opportunity to do a sick power move where he also makes a 4 hour long video about plagiarism and it's just this one but he replaces his name with your name.
Someone posted a meme to the subreddit of James photoshopped over Colleen Ballinger called "poisonous rumor locomotive"
It's especially funny to see a joke The Hard Times did 18 hours ago in the comments section of a plagiarism video
Mobius Fun, it’s my birthday today. Play in the bouncy castle in Farbanti.
03:27:30 is this like the 3rd or 4th time Hbomb has randomly brought up a fictional white women victimization campaign? and weirdly including it as a joke when mentioning one of the few black creators in the space is peak white privilege and ignorance. What happened with Lindsey Ellis was bad hbomb we know you're angry about it but that doesn't give you the go-ahead to create this narrative that white women are under attack by queer and BIPOC liberals online it's disgusting.
@@billmurphy6199I'm losing my mind, how fucking deep does this plagiarism rabbit hole goes
this is a small thing but James calling the show “Arthur” instead of “Merlin” more than once is even more evidence that he’s never seen it bc absolutely no one who has seen the show would think of Arthur as the main character. wild behavior all around from that man
That was especially egregious. Like, I have never seen a single episode of Merlin, but I was on Tumblr in the 2010s, so I'm vaguely familiar with its broad strokes. I can't imagine anyone who did any kind of looking into the show to make that kind of mistake
Imagine you were watching that livestream at the time as a fan and thinking he was talking about Arthur, the children's cartoon
@@fishtank39 right lol never watched the show either but grew up on tumblr seeing fangirls of it and even I know how ridiculous it is to have called it Arthur
Also, calling it “Arthur” could make people confuse it for the kids PBS show, lol.
That jumped out to me too.
it’s so genuinely horrifying to hear about the stolen gay erasure section from a now defunct, inaccessible gay lit magazine. i’ve watched this video a couple of times now and that part makes me sick to my stomach every time.
The way Illuminaghtii pronounces every 10th-ish word incorrectly, paired with the awkward cadence of her speech really gets on my nerves, she is definitely just reading a script out loud without thinking about what she is actually saying.
Every time I listen to this, there's a new part in the first half that just makes me think "FORESHADOWING IS A LITERARY DEVICE IN WHICH-"
Oh thank god I thought it was just me
My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨
I'm still waiting for the video where he makes a doughnut (if you don't know what I mean stick around after the credits)
One of my favorite things about this video is the shot at 2:30 when Harry sets down a copy of Analog on top of some other books, those books foreshadowing the instances of plagiarism he'll be talking about
@@maddieS117 oh man I didn't notice that, that's so good
I like that "Telos" is an anagram of "Stole."
It's also solet backwards!
Oh my god,I never noticed it😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
I bet he knew it already when he decided on making a company with that name
Ah, I hadn't clocked it!
AND it means "end" in Greek xD
Plagiarism confuses me, because for me, it would literally take MORE time and effort to copy someone else's work than to write something myself. If creative work is so hard for you that it's easier to just copy other people, you are in the wrong line of work. It's not like creative work tends to actually pay all that well, so it should be something you actually ENJOY doing, something which comes naturally, if you're going to get into it.
But... it DOES pay well. James Somerton has made tons of money doing exactly this and while his income as tanked, he still has all the money from the "glory days".
Fr, I sometimes find myself at work, in the middle of a call, with no idea whatsoever of what the content of the call was but having created a new character with a fully fleshed backstory
It is pretty funny that Internet Historian's little cartoon guy is just reading from a book.
Blair also frequently used an avatar still where she was reading from a book. Hmm
Makes me think there was originally a plan to make an adaptation, crediting the article. The "campfire storytime" vibe would fit with that. Maybe mentalfloss just said "no" but by then they were on crunch time so they just uploaded it as-is
@@cly_IH’s videos take months to make. It wouldn’t really make much sense to only ask permission late in production. I think it’s more likely that he didn’t care about that at all, especially considering the part where he pretends he’s reading seperate things.
@@henrynelson9301 Is that overall or just the scriptwriting process?
@@cly_ Being on a crunchtime isn't a good excuse to steal.
Live your life in such a way that Hbomb never has reason to come after you and systematically dismantle you for 4 hours.
I need this cross-stitched across a pan flag
@@arcarchivist2638then photographed with a fish-eye lense camera and edited to look correct
I will put this comment on my discord status for a day, and I will cite you.
did you steal this from tumblr or was it the other way round
That's my goal really
James Somerton quoting the Encyclopedia Definition of “homosexuality” as part of his essay somehow transcends absurdity and almost eclipses into surrealism.
he's doing the contraponts bit but without a single shred of irony. Huh.. I wonder if he intentionally tried to rip that off without getting the joke
I guess you could almost call it... borderline experimental.
@@3ln2xnope it's been confirmed that he didn't
@3ln2x the rumor has been all over the internet, so it must be true, right?
@@el_fuckoI....clapped?
“squixteen dingles off my bext burger” still absolutely slays me
I see a lot of comments about the existential horror of being in the second half of an HBomberguy video but honestly I feel like it's often not great to feature in the first half either.
Or getting a separate video on a second obscure channel.
for anyone wondering, james somerton has made every single video on his channel either unlisted/private, resulting in a loss of over 3.5 MILLION views in just a few days. he has also bled 68k subscribers in the same timreframe. This guy is among the worst on youtube plagiarists. glad you spoke out about it!
edit: i think he deleted his channel LOL
WARRR IS OVERR
Harris status: bombin'
"if there was plagiarism, I wouldn't have a channel"
aaand his channel is completely gone now
At least he kept all his entirely original content up
The "I'm not an academic, I don't know the proper way of citing a reference" when you have a college degree is bewildering to me. The first time I went to college it was drilled into me over and over again the importance of citations, and how to do them. And I was a computer science major, not, like, english or history.
Exactly. Even if you (JS) don’t have whatever writing handbook you had to buy for school still in a box somewhere, you know it exists. Heck, you know citations are a thing because they are the things you would have to delete when copying Wikipedia articles into your script.
Heck, it isn't uncommon for it to be a thing in high school either. And the very fact that one knows the phrase 'citing a reference' means knowing in broad strokes about the concept and thus what to google, if nothing else.
@@PhotonBeastI learned about and was told that bad stuff would happen if you plagiarized in middle school, hell in the 6th goddamn grade. Granted, it was a very light sort of "If you plagiarize you can get in legal trouble and lose money" in a very simplified way for 12 year olds, but *still*, c'mon man it aint hard to understand
Yup. This was all in my very first required class.
It was drilled into me in high school English. Granted, I took AP English, but still...
As a non native english speaker, this video has been very useful for learning synonyms :)
Hbomberguys videos are really good for observing english language and expanding your vocabulary
I love how, 4 months after the fact, when I'm using RUclips autoplay to lull me to sleep, this video ALWAYS comes up.
James’s only original work being ranting about women is so funny to me 😭🙏
Gamer
Honestly the most toxic backstabbing snakes I saw in school were the gay best friends of the popular straight girls….
@@just_a_turtle_chadedgy loser
@just_a_turtle_chad What's the matter, are your parents not monitoring your screen time enough?
@@just_a_turtle_chadtypical Vaushite response (I see you under every vaush video lol)
it's still fucking wild to me how james unironically did the "they dont treat you like a friend, they treat you like an item" speech from the snapcube 06 dub
"Sometimes, I wish I could be more than just an accessory to these women." -Mephiles the Dark, Sonic 06 Snapcube Fandub
AINT NO FUCKING WAY
WHEN WE SEEIN HIS GAMER PAD
@@Toast-comMemphis Tennessee, you mean. And he's part lizard
@@malachiatkinson7245 He's also vape smoke and contained in the perfect shape
“That just makes you a beta cuck…”
Who would've guessed that a youtube channel that uses someone else's face as their branding without permission because it was in a meme would plagiarize someone.
I sincerely hope IH actually had bought up stock photos of him before he used his likeness for the face of his channel.
Go away, James.
I just wanted to drop in and say I’m very happy to see the care you take with your captions. I had no idea RUclipsrs could move their captions, you are the first I’ve seen take the time to move them so extra text can be read easily. It makes watching videos like this so much nicer. Even if no one else appreciates it or notices, I sure do! Thanks for even putting effort into small things like that!
If you watch on a computer, you can also drag captions around on the screen just by clicking on them! Not a lot of people know that, but if you are watching and it's an issue on a different video, you can move it on your own :)
it hurts my soul that calling Merlin "the Arthur show" is the funniest joke James has ever made and he will never realize it
HBomb showed a lot of restraint by not playing a bit of Arthur’s intro after that blunder. TBF, though, that was a gaffe on James’ part. I can forgive that while watching him get torn down for actual shit he’s done.
@@animeotaku307 I hope you understand that the point of it being put into the video was not to shame James for a brain flub, but to illustrate just how little attachment he actually had to a subject he supposedly was into enough to make a video about.
@@animeotaku307That's not a gaffe, he forgot the name because he didn't watch the freaking show lol
And I say HEY!
@@justacouplapaninis4986What a wonderful kind of day...
This made me go read that article that internet historian copied. It was an amazing telling of the story and so tragic at the end I genuinely cried. Lucas Riley truly is an amazing writer.
Which one? After this dropped people looked and found *all* his non-internet related historical videos were plagiarized.
@@crazyinsane500 OP said they read the article that WAS plagiarized, not watched an IH video. they read the man in the cave story, the original one.
@@reda-exe yes!! The one by Lucas Riley. I 100% recommend the read
R@@reda-exe
@@crazyinsane500oh no really? I am not surprised but man that’s really bad
Love how this and the Roblox oof video both emphasize how important media preservation is. Both James and Tommy are people who came to power by hiding the work that they stole from others, and most of those works are inaccessible in some way, whether it’s because of paywalls or host sites being taken down. This video has so many examples of how reuploads, screenshots, or pirated media actually helps preserve the true history of these grifters and what they really did. Please don’t be afraid of saving things, because those things may help people find the truth that others want to erase.
My "favorite" is how Hirohiko Araki is hellbent on making sure nobody sees any of the Jojo OVAs. Unfortunately it does a great disservice to all the people that originally adapted Part 3, including the late great Satoshi Kon (Perfect Blue, Millenium Actress, Paranoia Agent, Tokyo Godfathers, Paprika) who directed the episode where Dio pursues Kakyoin and Joseph.
Forget the OVAs of Parts 1 and 2 tho, because Araki made sure they never saw the light of day outside of the theaters they screened in.
I think an important takeaway is: if you're going to look into a RUclips video because you think it might be plagiarised, DOWNLOAD IT FIRST before mentioning online that you're going to look at it …
I want someone to lock Tommy Tallarico and James Somerton in a room together and just observe what they talk about. You know, for science.
I'm sure their mothers would be very proud.
I imagine it would be kinda like putting a live microphone directly in front of the speaker it's connected to and cranking the volume, then leaving it to feed back for a long time. It would be ear grating and horrible, but maybe in an interesting way if you can stand to listen.
divide by zero error
Dude, be careful. That's how you start the Sinister Six!
They kiss😳
James took the "If you copy from one book, that’s plagiarism; if you copy from many books, that’s research" quote literally.
Maybe business school should teach people about metaphors.
@@timothymcleanand academic research
@@timothymclean Business school just teaches you to fuck people over and get yours, unfortunately.
There is a RUclips video on “the books you’ll never be able to read”.
Old books of the past, were often hodgepodge amalgamations of other works. That being said, however, there are clear reasons and examples of actual references.
Knowledge can enable knowledge, or it can lead to further ignorance. Idk the whole thing is a farce. The whole James thing just upsets me.
But not even that, though!
The worst thing Hbomb ruined for me is that now everytime he says "it turns out" I can't help but notice it.