Vaccines and Autism: A Measured Response

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  • Опубликовано: 17 июн 2024
  • What is the science behind the anti-vaccine movement, and is it any good? Let’s find out!
    My Twitter: / hbomberguy
    My Patreon: / hbomb
    Kat's Twitter: / lolkat
    CHAPTERS:
    0:00 - Intro
    2:20 - The Easy Version
    6:15 - An In-Depth Analysis of the Worst Study Ever Done
    22:38 - In Which The Media Gets Everyone Killed
    33:03 - How Not To Talk About Autism
    36:22 - Andrew Wakefield is a Lying Conman Who Wanted Your Money
    52:50 - It Gets Much Worse
    1:05:58 - Andrew Wakefield Abused Children For Money
    1:16:00 - The Part Where He Loses His License
    1:23:23 - CONCLUSION
    1:40:16 - Credits
    Get Brian Deer's book The Doctor Who Fooled The World:
    briandeer.com/doctor-who-fool...
    SOURCES:
    docs.google.com/document/d/1w...

Комментарии • 49 тыс.

  • @ninjawiz7932
    @ninjawiz7932 Год назад +56221

    As someone with autism I vaccinate regularly to increase my power.

    • @b6b6b6b6b6
      @b6b6b6b6b6 Год назад +1184

      same 💪

    • @ARockyRock
      @ARockyRock Год назад +989

      didnt work for me, instead of making me autistic I just got depressed and developed insomnia

    • @yourresume373
      @yourresume373 Год назад +955

      We shoot it like heroin 'round these parts

    • @optillian4182
      @optillian4182 Год назад +1267

      I've been doing it for a decade and I've achieved fully automatic assault autism.

    • @DeXyfero
      @DeXyfero Год назад +105

      @@optillian4182faaa

  • @patriksmisans37
    @patriksmisans37 5 месяцев назад +2290

    something about a respected scientist calling him "a wanker and a fraud" just tickles me right

    • @Noxedwin
      @Noxedwin 3 месяца назад +97

      British officials only *act* boring and foppish.
      If that tickles you, I recommend you watch a couple of hot-button Parliament debates. We have an impressively prim parlance for "this shit's _wack,_ and you're a *_dick"._* It becomes a cultural, linguistic puzzle to figure out how to express a strong (often angry) opinion without resorting to superlatives and overt profanity.

    • @Robert-tn7yz
      @Robert-tn7yz 2 месяца назад +3

      Then I recommend you see the documentaries Vaxxed 1 and 2 which prove he is right. Hbomb liked to leave that part out of the video didn't he?

    • @jack-a-lopium
      @jack-a-lopium 2 месяца назад

      @@Robert-tn7yz Apart from that they are shown on screen at timecode @1:21:07.
      So maybe you don't have autism, but based upon that comment alone, I can tell you have an IQ somewhere south of 50, which is technically a disability.
      Don't suppose you're that kid in the beanie pretending to be autistic shown in several places, are you? I'd love to know more about that guy. If it's you, let me know, thank you!

    • @Wayte13
      @Wayte13 2 месяца назад +56

      @@Robert-tn7yz What was he right about, exactly? You're the only one leaving something out here lmao. It's real obvious why your claims are always vague and backed primarily by emotional pressure

    • @kostajovanovic3711
      @kostajovanovic3711 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@Robert-tn7yzjust 20 comments, weak.

  • @chonkochonkaboo6352
    @chonkochonkaboo6352 5 месяцев назад +5414

    "Save the children" MY BROTHER IN CHRIST, would you rather have a kid who likes trains or a kid that died because of measles

    • @chonkochonkaboo6352
      @chonkochonkaboo6352 5 месяцев назад +14

      @@Weweta look, im autistic. i can very much say that being autistic is not worse than vaccine preventable diseases. collective immunity only works if a majority is getting vaccinated to protect the people who cant

    • @CarpeVerpa
      @CarpeVerpa 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@Weweta Also an important factor is that vaccines don't cause autism.

    • @meaj4556
      @meaj4556 5 месяцев назад +277

      Mmmm...trains. 🚂 CHOO-CHOO!!

    • @babs_babs
      @babs_babs 5 месяцев назад +150

      easy choice. i pick the train kid

    • @Sage_the_Turt
      @Sage_the_Turt 5 месяцев назад +238

      *insert thomas the tallarico engine joke joke here*

  • @pinknblackproductions
    @pinknblackproductions 5 месяцев назад +2754

    Shout out to when HBomb says "I want Brian Deer to be able to track this video coming out on a graph of his book sales" and then in his plagerism video it turns out there was a rather impressive uptick in the book sales after this video came out.
    Sometimes dreams do come true.

    • @walukirby
      @walukirby 3 месяца назад +48

      HBomb? The bloons youtuber?

    • @noviatoria2436
      @noviatoria2436 3 месяца назад +1

      Hell yeah

    • @Marshall.R
      @Marshall.R 3 месяца назад +32

      @@walukirby nah I think he's talking about that one guy who plays Minecraft or something idk

    • @animeotaku307
      @animeotaku307 3 месяца назад +56

      Deer also promoted this video on his social media.

    • @Solinaru
      @Solinaru 3 месяца назад +78

      This is sander and stolen valor from Tommy Tallarico's work on creating the first YT essay.

  • @Awesomeness-iz3dh
    @Awesomeness-iz3dh Год назад +15077

    I was born with autism, but I make sure to get all my shots to make sure I'm always running the latest version.

    • @sofern2681
      @sofern2681 Год назад +146

      AHAHAH

    • @whatdoyouexactlymeanbyhandle
      @whatdoyouexactlymeanbyhandle Год назад +82

      Same here.

    • @Boppercat
      @Boppercat Год назад +393

      Yeah running on the older vaccines can really affect your concentration and your memory. Always get the latest vaccine.

    • @Awesomeness-iz3dh
      @Awesomeness-iz3dh Год назад +191

      @Moonlight No, but every time I go to bed it prompts me to go get vaccinated first.

    • @smthig
      @smthig Год назад +284

      Me waiting outside the vaccine store for the new autism drop

  • @SecretAgentYaya
    @SecretAgentYaya 3 года назад +3326

    "Bowel Disease from MMR turning the children Autistic" is the prequel to "Chemicals in the water turning the frogs gay" I never wanted.

    • @FaCiSmFTW
      @FaCiSmFTW 3 года назад +80

      Read about atrazine and frogs. Jones was actually right about that one

    • @stevealexander1041
      @stevealexander1041 3 года назад +16

      The dumbass extended universe.

    • @oof5992
      @oof5992 3 года назад +28

      The frogs was actually real for once.

    • @zRhid
      @zRhid 3 года назад +230

      @@FaCiSmFTW Like a lot of what he says, its in some weird convoluted way based in truth, but he's twisting the hell out of it to sell you "brain force" or whatever

    • @FaCiSmFTW
      @FaCiSmFTW 3 года назад +10

      @@zRhid Yeah for sure. It's always a good idea to research independently even though it might take a long time. That goes for the v thing as well don't just watch this video, read about what dissenting doctors have to say rather than fearful mothers.

  • @AroaceCrab
    @AroaceCrab 4 месяца назад +1127

    I grew up very Christian and was told that my autism was caused by my parent's sins.
    For whatever reason, I deserve to be punished for things my parents did.
    And being told by everyone around me that I am a punishment for my parents was definitely very good for my mental health.

    • @oost_javeln
      @oost_javeln 4 месяца назад +11

      I really do not understand shitty people like that. Using religion as an excuse to be a terrible person deserving of hell.

    • @gentlesoul221
      @gentlesoul221 4 месяца назад +118

      Fuck those people who said that about you. I have an autistic brother but there's no way I would consider him a punishment, or even that he's being punished. It just runs in the family on my dad's side. Becides, to quote Ozzy Osborne: "Why would you want to be normal?"

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 4 месяца назад

      There are still pastors in the south who are saying that autistic people are possessed by demons.

    • @OptimumTaurus
      @OptimumTaurus 3 месяца назад +49

      oh my god, I'm so sorry, that is so cruel.

    • @buttlet2226
      @buttlet2226 2 месяца назад +11

      I’m so sorry to hear that. Keep moving forward, you’re gonna be okay.

  • @anaisasimpson9022
    @anaisasimpson9022 3 месяца назад +469

    You know, parents could probably notice signs of autism in their infant children if they observed their children without taking everything their children do personally. For example, I have a child on the spectrum, and I can remember incidents of accidentally over stimulating him VERY early on. My husband and I put my son on a blanket one day, and one of us on each side gently waved the blanket up and down. My son LOVED it! He giggled like mad; just having the time of his life.
    Then suddenly, without warning, he started crying and screaming even louder than he had previously been giggling. He wasn’t just suddenly stresses out, he was in pain, and there was absolutely nothing I would normally do to comfort him that worked in that moment. He was simply inconsolable for ten minutes. It took a long time for me to figure out strategies to comfort him when he gets overstimulated. It takes a lot of calm and collected observation to figure it out, and some parents simply don’t have the patience for that, I guess.
    He was so young he couldn’t even walk yet. This did not happen in a timeframe that lined up with his vaccine schedule. It was just him. It was just my sweet little boy struggling to cope with new experiences that he didn’t understand. That’s it.
    My brother is also on the spectrum, and my mother remembers signs all the way back to when he was newborn. He HATED nursing. Obviously he did because he was hungry, but according to my mom the moment he unlatched he would use every ounce of strength in his little body to try to get out of her arms. Thankfully my mom is a deeply kind and empathetic person, who DOESN’T look to her children to be the source of her self esteem, so she simply took note and tried to accommodate him however she could.
    Parents who take everything personally, and treat their children as if they were born for the soul purpose of making said parents feel good about themselves; they are the ones you often see in the VaCcInEs MaDe My BaBy AuTiStIc band wagons. You can hear it in the way they talk that when they recall things like what I just described, they are personally offended that their children behave differently. They’re angry. They are genuinely pissed off about it. It’s mystifying. But that irrational reaction explains why they are so desperate to find someone or something to blame.

    • @birdieinacage
      @birdieinacage Месяц назад +48

      i really appreciate this anecdote. i myself am autistic, and it's wonderful to hear that there are people out there who are genuinely empathetic and work to accomodate us. thank you, truly

    • @robertprice9052
      @robertprice9052 26 дней назад +2

      What of the parents who had a perfectly normally functioning child, who met all his milestones? Then after vaccination the child withdrew into a shell, doesn’t speak, doesn’t recognize or interact with their environment. I have two friends with the exact same story.

    • @birdieinacage
      @birdieinacage 26 дней назад +33

      @@robertprice9052 unfortunately this happens to a lot of children, but not as a result of the vaccine. that's just how autism happens sometimes :( i wish your friends the best of luck !

    • @anaisasimpson9022
      @anaisasimpson9022 26 дней назад +26

      @robertprice9052 My son was meeting all of his milestones, too. He was even ahead on a couple of them. Then he had a big regression between the ages of 2 and 3, which caused serious problems for him for about six months until we managed to help him find his voice again. It was hard, and it continued to be hard for a long time after that. As far as I can tell his regression was not connected to his vaccine schedule.
      You could hear it in his voice that it was painful for him to speak sometimes, but he wanted to, so we patiently listened as long as he needed us to. I’ve known many children on the spectrum, and after listening to stories about their infant years, and my experiences with my own son, I am convinced that there are always subtle signs before the inevitable big regression. For whatever reason parents almost never notice the small issues until the big one hits.
      Sometimes it’s a positive reason. The parents just love their children so much that it doesn’t even occur to them that the minor setbacks here and there could be an indicator of anything serious. They just see their child growing in their own unique way.

    • @anaisasimpson9022
      @anaisasimpson9022 26 дней назад +12

      @@birdieinacage Thank you for your very sweet reply to me. 😊 I didn’t know how to respond at first! LOL It’s almost startling to receive such kind and heartfelt words as yours on the internet. You’re a lovely person!

  • @itexplodes3824
    @itexplodes3824 6 месяцев назад +6547

    When we got our COVID shots, in school, the three of us, we were sitting there for the required fifteen minutes. We sat there in silence. Suddenly one of us, not me, my friend, turns to me with this shit eating grin on his face. The two of us turn to him. We stare at each other. Still grinning, he says "I can feel my autism getting stronger" and the three of us lose our minds laughing. We are all diagnosed. Life is, if not good, at least okay

    • @InsoIence
      @InsoIence 6 месяцев назад +488

      Cute slice of life, made me grin. Hope you guys have some fun adventures in life.

    • @azealot7112
      @azealot7112 5 месяцев назад +237

      This is *extremely* funny. Thank you for sharing.

    • @zekova
      @zekova 5 месяцев назад +70

      Thank you for that story. It warms my soul 🥹🩷

    • @squibble08
      @squibble08 5 месяцев назад +42

      hehe, thats amazing

    • @Levyafan
      @Levyafan 5 месяцев назад +62

      LEVEL UP

  • @NicoSavio2395
    @NicoSavio2395 3 года назад +22078

    To be fair, the risk of Alzheimer's does go up significantly if you are still alive

    • @tanyaharmon6739
      @tanyaharmon6739 3 года назад +21

      And dying

    • @elinquisidorperseverante6835
      @elinquisidorperseverante6835 3 года назад +327

      @@tanyaharmon6739 Oh god you think that water isn't wet don't you lol

    • @utisti4976
      @utisti4976 3 года назад +1163

      Speaking of which, did you know that dihydrogen monoxide is the most lethal substance on the planet?
      Literally 100% of everyone who touches it passes away, it's absolutely insane!

    • @roberttheguy4974
      @roberttheguy4974 3 года назад +626

      @@utisti4976 yeah I cant belive they let that stuff be in so many food products and drinks

    • @glitchwalker5422
      @glitchwalker5422 3 года назад +557

      Risk of death is 100% for any human who is alive. The solution must be not to live!

  • @ladyalicent705
    @ladyalicent705 5 месяцев назад +745

    “The only problem, is that it was not approved by the ethics board, but that doesn’t make it unethical!”
    Umm, YES! *YES IT DOES! THAT’S THE ENTIRE POINT OF AN ETHICS BOARD!*

    • @williamedge5130
      @williamedge5130 4 месяца назад +103

      "The only problem, is that my restaurant failed a health department hygiene inspection, but that doesn’t mean it was an unhygienic environment!"

    • @gentlesoul221
      @gentlesoul221 4 месяца назад +45

      ​@@williamedge5130"the only problem, is that my car didn't pass emissions standards, but that doesn't mean it's destroying the planet." - higher up at VW (probably)

    • @Frickerdoodle
      @Frickerdoodle 3 месяца назад +16

      Okay so I'm going to play devils advocat for one whole second here-
      I believe the point he was trying to make is that not running it by the ethics committee first did not make the act inherently unethical, and that he would still get in trouble if he did something completely ethical under the watch of the ethics board. What he did was not rejected, he simply did not ask the ethics committee at all.
      That being said, what he did WAS unethical, which is most likely exactly why he didn't WANT to talk to the ethics board.

    • @ladyalicent705
      @ladyalicent705 3 месяца назад +23

      @@Frickerdoodle “Listen, I know my recently opened restaurant has been making people extremely sick and sending them to hospital in life threatening conditions, but like, it’s not like my restaurant failed the hygiene inspection or anything, I just didn’t tell the hygiene inspectors that I was opening a new restaurant so they never did the inspection in the first place! And that’s like, not as bad as failing the test because who knows? Maybe they would have said it was really good if I hadn’t violated the law by not telling them! I just forgot man!”

    • @williamedge5130
      @williamedge5130 3 месяца назад +13

      @@Frickerdoodle I think that's a poor argument. Medical and scientific ethics in this sort of area are pretty strictly defined and drilled into you as part of our training. The ethics board is basing their decision on ethical standpoints he would have already known.
      When he says "it wasn't approved of" it means that the court determined that it he acted in an unethical fashion, not that he "didn't run it by them". Because you don't do that unless you're going into some strange new territory that your ethical training hasn't covered. And if he was going into that sort of area, there are absolutely people he could and should have worked with to determine the ethical ways of going forward.

  • @Brainrotteruwu
    @Brainrotteruwu 5 месяцев назад +404

    I like how the ENTIRE movement is held up by a Popsicle stick of not researching what they believe

    • @johnmartinez7440
      @johnmartinez7440 5 месяцев назад +1

      You can "research" to prove basically whatever point you want, nowadays, sadly.

    • @witchy90210
      @witchy90210 5 месяцев назад +36

      @@johnmartinez7440 well you can "prove" your point, but that doesnt mean its right.

    • @meem6154
      @meem6154 4 месяца назад +5

      I honestly think that if more studies were taken into other controversial topics that same issue would appear time and time again, people just not researching what they are referencing or believing in.

  • @rabidvampdude
    @rabidvampdude 8 месяцев назад +8417

    “Autistic people are constantly accommodating to a world that refuses to accommodate to them” truer words have never been said

    • @Gaming.Gamer.
      @Gaming.Gamer. 7 месяцев назад +232

      It's not that we weren't made for this world, but that the world was never made for us...

    • @murrfeeling
      @murrfeeling 6 месяцев назад +35

      Remove the word "Autistic" and it sounds equally true, equally profound.

    • @HoxMouse
      @HoxMouse 6 месяцев назад +358

      @@murrfeeling No, not really.

    • @BigFatCone
      @BigFatCone 6 месяцев назад

      A fair chunk of autistic people are super non-accomodating.

    • @honeybeerandom
      @honeybeerandom 6 месяцев назад +158

      As an autistic person, I really have never heard a quote so accurate to my lived experiance.

  • @GPantazis
    @GPantazis 9 месяцев назад +3982

    Anti-vaxxers: "Do your own research!"
    The research:

    • @meodrac
      @meodrac 8 месяцев назад +229

      That's why I like to say "googling for 5 minutes does not count as research"

    • @akpsyche1299
      @akpsyche1299 8 месяцев назад +152

      @@meodrac Also, anecdotes don't count as research.

    • @MT-sb6ms
      @MT-sb6ms 8 месяцев назад +1

      Do your own research needs to come with a manual to do the research. I did it, spent a few days on it and took the vaccine.

    • @undercookedtoast1479
      @undercookedtoast1479 6 месяцев назад +130

      @@akpsyche1299 Also also, “Big Pharma wants to brainwash you” is not a valid rebuttal to actual research.

    • @Haituga
      @Haituga 6 месяцев назад +48

      And then they'll be like: "No, not like that"

  • @TheGibbie
    @TheGibbie 2 месяца назад +135

    I mean, it makes sense its caused by bowel disease, im autistic and my mom always told me i was a pain in the ass

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 2 месяца назад +18

      massive skill issue on your mom's part tbh

    • @TheGibbie
      @TheGibbie 2 месяца назад +11

      @@juniperrodley9843 mom diff

  • @dicegerry5127
    @dicegerry5127 5 месяцев назад +193

    The colonoscopy thing is fucking insane. My dad had bowel cancer back in 2014 (he's all good, they caught it early and were able to operate) and so every two years he has to have a colonoscopy to make sure it doesn't come back, and he, a 50 year old man who has already dealt with something as painful as cancer, finds the procedure excruciating. As an autistic minor myself, inflicting that shit on young autistic kids whose parents don't even understand what is going on is completely unforgivable and Wakefield should be in prison

    • @emmap6866
      @emmap6866 2 дня назад +2

      I think the lumbar puncture is even more atrocious; my own dad had to get one once and he said it was the worst pain he ever experienced. He threw up on the way home and felt sick for days. I can't imagine what that would be like for a young child, autistic or not, especially when the procedure is unnecessary.

  • @torylva
    @torylva 3 года назад +5030

    ... Fuck, why the hell is Wakefield not given a life sentence for just the things he did to the kids?

    • @Mehow80
      @Mehow80 3 года назад +215

      Bring back public hangings (not really)

    • @tomd814
      @tomd814 3 года назад +435

      @@Mehow80 Bring back public hangings (yes really)

    • @jiralishu
      @jiralishu 3 года назад +76

      @@tomd814 I feel this energy so hard.

    • @ava_marie_v
      @ava_marie_v 3 года назад +99

      @@tomd814 Bring back the guillotine!

    • @runaravenscraft5314
      @runaravenscraft5314 3 года назад +220

      I hadn't heard of what he put those kids through before. Genuinely shocking

  • @jasparcowley-grimmond91
    @jasparcowley-grimmond91 2 года назад +13582

    wakefield paper is so easy to debunk it was an exercise in my first year of university

    • @MagickalDistruction
      @MagickalDistruction 2 года назад +1045

      We did it in introductory classes to bio at my uni Lolol

    • @JamieDoyle8
      @JamieDoyle8 2 года назад +931

      It was used as an example of a conflict of interest in a level (may have even been GCSE) biology, like it’s that obvious

    • @rix_horizon494
      @rix_horizon494 2 года назад +68

      Same

    • @ezekielrohde9074
      @ezekielrohde9074 2 года назад +764

      The fact that college kids regularly debunk this is so funny, that's almost enough to debunk it on it's own 😆

    • @michaelhird432
      @michaelhird432 2 года назад +830

      Imagine that being your legacy; being debunked as an excercise for students

  • @iodinev
    @iodinev 5 месяцев назад +540

    I started having seizures after getting the first COVID vaccine. I'd later be diagnosed with general seizure disorder. I'm so grateful that I understand that some things happen at the same time as other things.
    And even if the two things were related, I'd still tell you GET YOUR COVID VACCINE OMG SERIOUSLY

    • @sandhan1t1zer
      @sandhan1t1zer 5 месяцев назад +1

      There are 8 billion people on this earth. Not having unrelated cases of medical complications preceding vaccines shots would be statistically impossible. It’d be like buying a billion lottery tickets and still losing.

    • @Ava-qb1wp
      @Ava-qb1wp 5 месяцев назад +24

      Someone show this comment to all the people screeching about the vaccine killing people

    • @LuciferTheFirstBorn
      @LuciferTheFirstBorn 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Ava-qb1wpsorry for my English but there is always a risk. I was never an antivaxer. But with the rona event i was fully against it and i have chosen to rather get the virus than the Vax. The fact that my country try to force it on people was kind of suspicious. So it happened as i planed, i got infected, was down a few weeks but was fine after that.
      2 examples i expirienced: My friends sister (perfectly healthy, half my age) got vaxed, she started to feel bad after it. Around 2 weeks later she died from a blot clot in her brain. Another friend of mine also choose the Vax cause he couldn't handle the pressure of threats by our law. His health got worse with every day, died also around 2 weeks later. Coincidence? We may never know but i higly doubt it.
      Noone in my big family or friends got vaxed because of what we saw around us, we all got infected and beside me noone felt the infection. Now I'm sure i will never get any Vax again. Last time i visit my doc, he asked me if I got vaxed. Obviously i said no. His answer: Good.
      I don't know a single person that died from the rona but i seen lots of people die after they choose to get vaxed.
      I learned one thing, never deny the risks, and those who deny the risk are blinded. Meanwhile there are more and more doctors admit that there is a higher risk than they thought.

    • @frantaspacek
      @frantaspacek 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@LuciferTheFirstBorn I don't know about anyone having complications from the vaccine but I did know multiple people who died because of covid.

    • @alim.9801
      @alim.9801 4 месяца назад +22

      I got diagnosed with epilepsy around that same time (maybe a year before I got the vaccine?) And as much as seizures terrify me and I hate being epileptic...better seizures than death yknow? Hope you're doing ok over there my dude 💜

  • @robinyoung3924
    @robinyoung3924 5 месяцев назад +682

    As an autistic person it's incredibly frustrating and depressing seeing your existence get thrown around as a debate point in issues like this. So, I massively appreciate the time and effort you took to use the correct language and generally speak about autism & autistic people very respectfully, and just, you know, treat us like people.

    • @robinyoung3924
      @robinyoung3924 5 месяцев назад +21

      @@Weweta spoken like somebody who has no idea what it's like to be autistic

    • @squidgirl0413
      @squidgirl0413 5 месяцев назад +62

      @@Weweta treating a condition as only its label and not as the people who have it is a quick way to dehumanize people. its the same kinda shit that results in 'narcissistic abuse' being a thing tiktokkers claim exists or saying that people are 'psychotic' when they do bad things. real human beings have autism and they see how you talk about having the condition and they can, in fact, correct you.

    • @squidgirl0413
      @squidgirl0413 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@Weweta hi! im fucking autistic. thats my source. also, the idea of 'curing' autism is eugenics, because you're eliminating an 'undesirable' genetic group from humanity.

    • @squidgirl0413
      @squidgirl0413 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Weweta like you can think whatever you want, but if two autistic people have directly told you that we dont wanna be fucking wiped out then maybe you should take that into consideration?

    • @Weweta
      @Weweta 5 месяцев назад

      @@fengari_leitmotifs tf you’re talking about homie. Do you think I’m some trumpist antivaxxer or something? I’m just saying autism sucks and that’s it. Autism makes people unsociable depending on the level. Being unable to socialize while being a HUMAN is a pretty big fucking problem.
      Were social animals after all

  • @zion9344
    @zion9344 Год назад +13886

    The fact that people forgot how bad measles is and decided that autism was somehow the scarier option really speaks to how effective the measles vaccine has been

    • @Whiteythereaper
      @Whiteythereaper Год назад

      It's also preying on Parents' worries that their child will be difficult & require more care & support by demonising Autistic people as a whole, treating them like lesser people that can't succeed in life. It's a wholly shameful ideology aimed at discrediting an entire subsection of people, writing them off as unintelligent & difficult leeches that can't contribute to society. It's a supremacist mindset aimed at scapegoating a genetic disorder. The lack of firsthand experience with Measles in the generation of parents that chose to forego the vaccine, as well as medical advancement, helped to upset the pros & cons and flip the narrative to support anti-vaxx sentiment and ingrain a sense of fear of neurological disorders & mental illness in an attempt to erase those disorders from public consciousness to cut social support for those disorders & abandon those that suffer to allow the "exceptional" people to succeed with less competition from those around them that get "unfair" support.

    • @Think-dont-believe
      @Think-dont-believe Год назад +6

      ⁠@@Whiteythereaper not true

    • @Think-dont-believe
      @Think-dont-believe Год назад

      There is autism and vax injury being called autism.Elon is autistic.

    • @pennyw2226
      @pennyw2226 Год назад +1346

      And how stigmatized autism and other disorders are

    • @LelandReview
      @LelandReview Год назад +36

      Brady Bunch aired a episode called ""Is There a Doctor in the House" to dispel the irrational fear of germaphobic lunatics. They explained how measles is very mild for 99% of people. And its nothing to be feared.

  • @petercohen9600
    @petercohen9600 Год назад +6100

    My dad, who is a licensed physician and (in my opinion) a very intelligent man, once described Andrew Wakefield as an "evil fucker".

    • @VonSnuggles1412
      @VonSnuggles1412 Год назад +314

      I don't know why, but in my mind he says that in a British accent

    • @petercohen9600
      @petercohen9600 Год назад +176

      @@VonSnuggles1412 I'm sorry, but it's just not so.

    • @Cam_Can_Play
      @Cam_Can_Play Год назад +2

      Smart Fella, your dad. Whereas Andrew Wakefield is a Fart Smella

    • @idiomi8556
      @idiomi8556 Год назад +61

      @@petercohen9600 does sound it though

    • @loorthedarkelf8353
      @loorthedarkelf8353 Год назад +157

      And that's a professional opinion!

  • @elliottcoleman8225
    @elliottcoleman8225 4 месяца назад +142

    The point about parents not noticing their child's autism symptoms until after a vaccination reminds me of something I learned while learning ASL. Majority of all deaf people are born from hearing families, and a lot of them were not even known to be deaf for potentially years. Newborns can pass initial testing by accident or by the chance their deafness develops soon after, and parents just notice that their child isn't saying their first words, or is behind on certain social and cognitive developments. Babies are remarkably good at imitating hearing behaviors through their other senses, such as turning to you when you enter a room simply by smelling you or feeling the floor move, or knowing that someone is at the door by seeing the dog bark. People suspect that their child has some kind of developmental disorder until a routine hearing test reveals that they are totally deaf. This delay in accomodation for their deafness and being denied access to language is what causes cognitive and social disabilities in deaf people. Deaf people who come from deaf families who have access to decent education don't have these issues. I'm kinda surprised no one has claimed that vaccines cause deafness............ wait maybe they have...

    • @CringyBoi42069
      @CringyBoi42069 9 дней назад +5

      What might be why people are less likely to blame vacancies for deafness is because our society has a better understanding of how the ear works then the brain and the fact that people can develop hearing problems later in life so our society is better with helping those people

  • @ladylielac
    @ladylielac 4 месяца назад +117

    I'm autistic, and I rewatch this video every so often to bask in Hbomb's righteous anger at the anti-vax movement. Thank you for your compassion towards people like me.

  • @HamsterVormFenster
    @HamsterVormFenster Год назад +9906

    There is sufficient anxiety, in my own mind, that Tommy Tallarico's mother is proud of him.

    • @DistortionUltra
      @DistortionUltra Год назад +266

      hahaahahahahahahaha Fucking underrated comment of the year

    • @theautisticguitarist7560
      @theautisticguitarist7560 Год назад +575

      Turns out Andrew Wakefield is an alias for JOEY KURAS ITS ALWAYS JOEY

    • @notpsicoh2107
      @notpsicoh2107 Год назад +465

      @@theautisticguitarist7560 aw come on don't compare Joey to one of the most evil persons I have ever heard of :(

    • @jeremylayman3684
      @jeremylayman3684 Год назад +265

      @@notpsicoh2107 Yeah, Brain Deer and Joey are heroes, while Tommy's alias while in the medical industry is Dr. Fudenberg. His mother is very proud. Not of him, of course, but in general.

    • @SesshyLover777
      @SesshyLover777 Год назад +9

      Shit this is AMAZING

  • @Seritias
    @Seritias 6 месяцев назад +9698

    Wow that Brian Deer documentary sure sounds great, I just wish there was a worse summarized version of it with more factual errors

    • @supersionsupersion
      @supersionsupersion 6 месяцев назад +345

      Hahahahaha

    • @scout6697
      @scout6697 6 месяцев назад +2012

      Maybe a pyramid could read it to me. That would be good

    • @heavyhauler426
      @heavyhauler426 6 месяцев назад +873

      Let's watch a million ads along the way!

    • @SpaceWoods
      @SpaceWoods 6 месяцев назад +561

      Yah, and maybe have the narrator voicing over and reiterating the exact words said in that documentary!

    • @KinoHiroshino
      @KinoHiroshino 6 месяцев назад +232

      I understood that reference.

  • @Alex_Silverpen
    @Alex_Silverpen 5 месяцев назад +99

    As an autistic person: we have always been around. We didn't just start appearing because of vaccines. In fact, I've heard a theory that Changelings- or, fae children that replace human children- were actually just autistic kids. The reason there seems to be a rise in autism is due to a few things: 1) we're better at recognizing and diagnosing it, and 2) the world is growing less and less accommodating for autistic people. It's so loud and fast and bright, it's no wonder autism is more noticeable now. The world isn't built for people like us. When the world is built against you, it's easier to see how you're different than the way society expects you to function.

  • @ofentsekgatla3338
    @ofentsekgatla3338 5 месяцев назад +141

    "No, Rachel don't wave the camera that's not how people communicate!" Is one of the best sentences I've ever heard.

    • @shgds
      @shgds 2 месяца назад

      you lie every day🫠😗😁😗🥲😘😅😅✊🏳️‍⚧️😂😂💀😭😺🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️😐😂🥰😘😚😊😍👀😁😁😄😄😂😙🫠🫠😺🏳️‍⚧️😙😵‍💫😪🤓🤓🤑🤑🤓😎🥸🤕🤕🥶🥶🥶🎃🙈🌜👺👹☠️😻😻😼🌜🙈🤖🙉🙈🩷💟💌🩶🧡🩵💝🩵💗💜💜🩵💚💚💚🧡💥❤️🩶🖤🩶🤍🤍🤍🩷🩷🩷💘💝💝💝💖♥️♥️💌💟🫸🙌👐👐🫱🫱🫱🫲👐🤲🙌🫱🫱🦿🦵🦶🫶🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻🦻💋

  • @wkadams88
    @wkadams88 3 года назад +2450

    "This isn't skepticism. This is ignorance masquerading as skepticism."
    Mic drop moment.

    • @talesfromthenuzlocke1619
      @talesfromthenuzlocke1619 3 года назад +13

      That’s Bill Maher in a Nutshell

    • @phnexOice
      @phnexOice 3 года назад +74

      I call it neo skepticism, it's being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical, not to actually find answers about anything. It also often involves blindly believing conspiracy theories, and often involves individuals refusing to actually acknowledge evidence. Pretty much the entire modern internet "skeptic" movement can be described like this

    • @RonnieD1970
      @RonnieD1970 3 года назад +4

      Cynicism

    • @sealevel5961
      @sealevel5961 3 года назад +19

      ​@@phnexOiceI thought the basis of skepticism was asking questions that require too much time and effort to address. Then acting like you're right when your philosophical or political opposition gets pissed off enough to ignore you.
      You know? Like a six-year-old in math class that insists on being told why 2+2 is 4. And explains that not being given an explanation is tantamount to indoctrination.

    • @DrTssha
      @DrTssha 3 года назад +19

      @@phnexOice It's like these people never learned that skepticism is a discipline (that requires careful and methodical research, and a reliance on established sources of evidence) and simply took on the colloquial definition of skepticism (i.e. expressing doubt) and thought that'd be enough to claim the prestige of the title of skeptic!
      Never confuse skepticism for doubt, people.

  • @professorgrimm4602
    @professorgrimm4602 7 месяцев назад +6165

    The part about child abuse is actually sickening. Wakefield shouldn't have just lost his medical license. He should be in jail for assault and child abuse.

    • @Yuti640
      @Yuti640 7 месяцев назад +185

      HOW THE HELL IS HE NOT?!?

    • @sev1120
      @sev1120 6 месяцев назад +224

      ​@@Yuti640because he has money

    • @NightLoveStar
      @NightLoveStar 6 месяцев назад +167

      I think it's not widely known what damages the procedures he conducted can do unless you're a doctor, so it's likely these facts were never made loud enough to get legal action.

    • @sigmaritearchlector5869
      @sigmaritearchlector5869 6 месяцев назад +8

      Now say the same thing about John Money

    • @masoncombs7799
      @masoncombs7799 6 месяцев назад +12

      ​@@sigmaritearchlector5869Who is John money?

  • @theotv5522
    @theotv5522 5 месяцев назад +189

    I remember during Wakefield's testing on the children, the nurse's voices were basically discarded, simply because at the time, people for some reason held higher regards to doctors than nurses. In my country, nurses were considered doctor's "errand runners" and nothing more. As a nurse myself, I feel bad for the ones who were forced into doing these tests. Because if anything goes wrong, the whole team will be reprimanded. You can't just pin the fault onto 1 person (Wakefield in this case) because at the end of the day, it was you that was in that surgery, and you could have walked away. Peer pressure in the lab is legit.

    • @nfinn42
      @nfinn42 5 месяцев назад +25

      The same paradigm still applies in vet med. Techs are seen by the public as glorified dog-holders and not as educated & credentialed professionals. :/

  • @mahadkhan878
    @mahadkhan878 Месяц назад +53

    Damn this is technically the first of the "documentary about a normal topic turns into this guy fucking sucks" trilogy

  • @starry-vi2kv
    @starry-vi2kv 7 месяцев назад +6216

    My scientific research shows an overwhelming amount of cases where children with autism have contacted sunlight during their childhood. Therefore, sunlight causes autism. Thank you for coming to my show.

    • @ShitkidOfJamrock
      @ShitkidOfJamrock 7 месяцев назад +6

      Jesus christ that's terrifying, what alternative medicine can I buy to stop that bad thing from happening?
      And don't say sunscreen, I know that stuff is full of microchips and gay chemicals!

    • @brook_angel
      @brook_angel 7 месяцев назад +94

      ​@@ShitkidOfJamrockbunker
      And if that's not an option financially:
      Basement

    • @P-nk-m-na
      @P-nk-m-na 7 месяцев назад +40

      ​@@brook_angelmy parents might as well have kept me in a basement half the time :(

    • @kaemincha
      @kaemincha 6 месяцев назад +50

      Give this commenter a federal grant!!!

    • @wwren
      @wwren 6 месяцев назад +74

      Is that why I sneeze when I walk out of a building and see the sun? I knew it was the tism...

  • @bibliophilecb
    @bibliophilecb 3 года назад +6152

    Brian David Gilbert’s narration with varying levels of bad British accents is my favorite thing ever

    • @emilynelson5985
      @emilynelson5985 3 года назад +463

      As soon as I heard it the sound was unmistakable.

    • @KaitlinGaspar
      @KaitlinGaspar 3 года назад +355

      OH MY GOD IT IS BDG I CANT BELIEVE THIS

    • @Polarwolf98
      @Polarwolf98 3 года назад +64

      ​@@KaitlinGaspar They are secretly the same person.

    • @joaoruiz2577
      @joaoruiz2577 3 года назад +467

      i want to believe that brian's only condition for appearing in this video was that hbomb said that horses aren't real

    • @Jaydee-wd7wr
      @Jaydee-wd7wr 3 года назад +274

      @@joaoruiz2577, Both Hbomberguy and BDG have joked about having equinophobia in the past. Wether they actually do or not I’m not sure.

  • @seanfrazee5146
    @seanfrazee5146 3 месяца назад +97

    Its insane that as a middle schooler they had us disprove his original paper? Like how did the media instantly report the autism scare but not be like "Anyone who isnt fucking stupid can see this is bullshit"

    • @magdaciechocka3076
      @magdaciechocka3076 3 месяца назад +6

      Media run on FOMO. Simple

    • @magdaciechocka3076
      @magdaciechocka3076 3 месяца назад +9

      And also fearmongering for better ratings.

    • @seanfrazee5146
      @seanfrazee5146 3 месяца назад +3

      @@magdaciechocka3076 true, but I bet "This guy is incredibly stupid it's impressive" right in the middle of this controversy would've spread everywhere

    • @lotuseater2184
      @lotuseater2184 2 месяца назад +2

      Imagine being the media reporter who has to say, "Sorry, we have to concede our previous statement regarding this issue as new evidence has been found disproving it/violating the integrity of the statement."
      Your ratings would plummet. All of your more loyal viewers would stop trusting you as credible sources of information if you admit that you were wrong.

    • @seanfrazee5146
      @seanfrazee5146 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@lotuseater2184 Yeah probably

  • @HoneycuttVideos
    @HoneycuttVideos 3 месяца назад +134

    I came back to this video after watching Plagiarism and You(Tube) and observed a really striking commonality in how both Andrew Wakefield and James Somerton defend themselves: they use other people as shields. The implications in how Wakefield says, “WE believe- we trust in the parents’ story” is so similar to how Somerton said “If someone is accusing me of plagiarism, they’d be accusing NICK of plagiarism, and I won’t tolerate that.”
    Both of these men knew they were lying to people who trusted them, and would hide behind the people they’d worked with to try to make themselves look better. “If you’re accusing ME of lying, you’re REALLY accusing this other person of lying, and they’d NEVER lie!” It’s so scummy.

    • @przemog88
      @przemog88 3 месяца назад +2

      So? I can use this analogy for literally anything.
      Also, vaccines are much less dangerous than actual catching virus/bacteria. That is a kniwn fact for a long time. Every anti-vaxer is either ignorant or a liar.@@kushal1206

    • @RandomPerson-cf3gt
      @RandomPerson-cf3gt 2 часа назад

      They're both narcissist which can't admit wrongdoing

  • @archibaldround6025
    @archibaldround6025 6 месяцев назад +6433

    Watching this video 2+ years later and the best joke in the piece being the final line: "I will never put this much effort into researching a video ever again..."

    • @nicoleleboeuf-little1048
      @nicoleleboeuf-little1048 6 месяцев назад +284

      Was scrolling the comments precisely to see if this had been said yet, because, THIS.

    • @myriasarvay2216
      @myriasarvay2216 6 месяцев назад +38

      Ditto

    • @TheParadoxGamer1
      @TheParadoxGamer1 6 месяцев назад +237

      Glad we’re doing our annual hbomberguy marathon again

    • @itchiegames
      @itchiegames 6 месяцев назад +12

      oh i kno right? he probably read what 2-3 hours of stuff? who can ever read that much? in this tik tok world nobody can. its impossible. he literally did the impossible. reading and paying attention for more than 20 seconds. how could he do such a thing? you dont get it and neither do it.
      thats what makes it such a great joke right? because its super hilarious. i told it at the office xmas party and everybody was on the floor laughing. literally, they were laying and rolling on the floor laughing. i had to check on 1 of them to make sure they could breath because of how amazingly funny that joke is. you have a good sense of humor and arent a moron at all.

    • @InsoIence
      @InsoIence 6 месяцев назад +171

      @@itchiegames Not really amusing, even though you try hard.

  • @amazingandrew4328
    @amazingandrew4328 6 месяцев назад +2345

    I learned that correlation ≠ causation in high school. It alarms me that grown adults haven’t learned that yet

    • @nickbell8353
      @nickbell8353 6 месяцев назад +173

      They probably thought that their teachers made them cite their sources and do rewrites because they were "mean."

    • @juliebogen1797
      @juliebogen1797 6 месяцев назад +2

      I feel like media coverage of scientific studies really perpetuates this; they’ll hear “study showed potential correlation between A and B” and then all the headlines are ACCORDING TO NEW STUDY COFFEE PREVENTS CANCER

    • @thomasneal9291
      @thomasneal9291 6 месяцев назад +93

      @@juliebogen1797 100% correct. science journalism in the popular press has been handled TERRIBLY for quite literally as long as science journalism has existed. You'd think they would have learned to be more responsible by now, but you'd be wrong.

    • @ishathakor
      @ishathakor 3 месяца назад +7

      @@nickbell8353 realistically, they probably didn't have to do anything where they cite sources in the first place.

    • @user-ez9ng2rw9c
      @user-ez9ng2rw9c 2 месяца назад

      ​@@thomasneal9291It's just a matter of for profit behaviour. For profit science journalism wants clicks, not to inform people.

  • @LTAD-xi6sw
    @LTAD-xi6sw Месяц назад +60

    The fact that this video only has 9.3 million views is a disgrace. Every single person around the world should be forced to watch this, especially anti-vaxxers, and Andrew Wakefield himself. Wakefield should also be in prison. So should Barr. The fact that these men walk free is a gross oversight of justice

  • @gobboyboyrah
    @gobboyboyrah 5 месяцев назад +178

    As someone who was growing up during this time, I still suffer from this mindset even though I know it's not true! My mum all my life has been a huge anti-vaccine person, and it has basically led to me being terrified of vaccines even though I quickly realised as a teenager that the study was nothing but a load of shit. I got my first vaccine in 2022, for covid, and it was genuinely terrifying at the time - but I knew it was something I had to do to protect myself and others from transmission.
    Its one of those things that even though you know its not true, you can't just undo the multiple decades of trauma fear your parents and the wider society dumped onto you. It not only causes misinformation during the time it was published, but actively carries on over the generations because of fear mongering in your own home. Even though I am a sociology undergraduate, and I'm actively aware of research ethics and what makes a shit study and what doesn't - I am still unable to fully convince myself that getting more vaccines isn't going to kill me or give me a disease. I genuinely would never wish on anyone what my childhood was like. I was beaten into fear for every aspect of my life, and as a young adult it's likely going to take me the rest of my life to undo this.
    And on the other hand, people like my siblings (who are adults and have children of their own!!) Believe this stuff because it was ingrained in them aswell, from my mum to the media it was fucking everywhere. And so much so that my own nieces and nephews have missed out on important vaccines because my siblings genuinely believe they may be endangering their children.
    Thanks Wakefield, you genuinely managed to ruin the lives of so many people.
    Ps. Thanks Harry! going to send this to my family and see how far they get into the video before calling me a socialist cuck . Wish me luck!

    • @floralia05
      @floralia05 5 месяцев назад +7

      As someone with a similar upbringing, how did you get the courage to get it? Am genuinely terrified

    • @danika5696
      @danika5696 5 месяцев назад +29

      @@floralia05I was in a similar position and it started by listening to everyone telling me about how boring their last vaccinations were and then getting my first one with my dad (I also got one with a close friends when I was still afraid to go alone). I started each vaccine by telling my doctor I was afraid and why and asked to stay past the 15 minute mark. It took a lot of research and time but after a lot of work I’m fully up to date

    • @gentlesoul221
      @gentlesoul221 4 месяца назад +5

      Tbh, i'm also scared of vaccines, but moreso due to anxiety of something going wrong or the pain being much worse than last time. I can not imagine the struggle it was to break the programming though, and I hope this leads to a safer, healthier future for you.

    • @catboysephiroth560
      @catboysephiroth560 3 месяца назад +11

      Old comment, but you deserve to feel proud of yourself for gathering the courage to get your first shot! You overcame your upbringing, something not many people care to attempt. Good on you! I don't have the same issue, my fear of medical needles comes from childhood trauma, but I know how scary it is to choose to go forward with a vaccine. You did amazing 💜

    • @toostressedtobeblessed
      @toostressedtobeblessed Месяц назад +3

      I like to tell people that my brother is autistic, and I have adhd, dispite both of us not being able to get shots due to various severe allergic reactions to them as children. We both have hd maybe 4 each in our lifetime due to that.
      Idk if it makes people feel better abt their fears or not. But i understand where youre coming from, being rased by a father who tried to cure my adhd with vitamins 😂

  • @Starslayer9095
    @Starslayer9095 Год назад +1911

    I can't believe vaccines gave me an ouchy tum tum and a hyperfixation for Super Mario

    • @yeethittter1285
      @yeethittter1285 Год назад +205

      I can't believe the vaccines forced me to make silly noises and gave me 2 different dhmis hyperfixations 😢😢

    • @RegalRoyalWasTaken
      @RegalRoyalWasTaken Год назад +1

      I can't believe vaccines gave me anxiety and a drakengard hyperfixation

    • @fivefoxesinatrenchcoat1744
      @fivefoxesinatrenchcoat1744 Год назад +162

      The vaccines made me like chewing my nails and Pokémon

    • @iggnifyre6333
      @iggnifyre6333 Год назад +178

      @@fivefoxesinatrenchcoat1744 yeah you probably shouldn't chew on Pokémon

    • @hanspetrov4343
      @hanspetrov4343 Год назад +71

      Vaccines gave me hyperfixation hyperfixation, my hyperfixation powers grow every day.
      hyperfixation

  • @Dukeofnachos
    @Dukeofnachos Год назад +3392

    Something interesting to me as an autistic person is the fact that anti-vax parents who are terrified of autism rarely seem to even know what autism is. They talk about it like it's a shadow monster lurking in the darkness and waiting to snatch up their kids in the night. For half of them it doesn't even occur to them that autistic adults exist and have lives of their own. Honestly most of them talk about autism solely as a burden on them and not something that their children will have to deal with their entire lives. Their definition of autism boils down to "a bad thing that will happen to me" and not "a condition my child might have". That's weird, isn't it?

    • @theisgejlfischer8712
      @theisgejlfischer8712 Год назад +283

      it is weird
      that kind of solipsistic egoism is very prevalent amongst parents and researchers, unfortunately.
      autism is talked about as a bad thing that happens to allistic people

    • @TheDude90100
      @TheDude90100 Год назад +5

      "Autism parents" are the absolute worst. I'm talking specifically about the ones you can find over at Autism Speaks, who are purely evil quacks and just want pity for wasting all their precious time raising "damaged children".

    • @zawrator4457
      @zawrator4457 Год назад +23

      Because they think level 3 autism, not level 1 what you are thinking.

    • @YEs69th420
      @YEs69th420 Год назад +1

      @@zawrator4457 No they're just horrid, selfish people.

    • @patrikpass2962
      @patrikpass2962 Год назад

      Why do so many with autism have weeb profile pictures?

  • @korebiis
    @korebiis 5 месяцев назад +68

    i wish i knew what was so wrong with autism that parents would rather kill their child than have a child with autism.
    "oh no," an anti-vaxxer parent says "i have to be a parent and actually care about my child. if they get autism, i will have to be more attentive... can't have that can we."

    • @chinsaw2727
      @chinsaw2727 5 месяцев назад +17

      I think it’s the fact that autistic people are “different”, and not in an easily identifiable way. They look like you, they can talk like you, but they act differently, and you don’t understand that and *hate* it. You could learn how to mind your own business or even try to understand them.
      But, when have you ever accepted anyone for being different before? You *need* a group to _hate,_ an enemy to give your life meaning again. You *need* something to blame, _anything_ to be your personal scapegoat. You *need* something to _fear,_ the one emotion you can still feel is fear.
      Besides, you are only wrong if you admit it. Your reality is only what you can comprehend. Your pride is on the line, don’t give up now! If you shout one more time, enter one more argument, then everyone will see that you were right, and they were all wrong. It will be _glorious._

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy 5 месяцев назад

      @@chinsaw2727 That's the entire issue with the right wing, their entire ideology is built off of not accepting and alienating people who aren't like them.

  • @rpgkingx3629
    @rpgkingx3629 11 дней назад +16

    What frustrates me about this whole movement is that it paints autism as some kind of death sentence. People like Wakefield is literally advocating for a kneejerk reaction to neurodivergency with words like “Neuropsychiatric Dysfunction” without an understanding of what it is and that’s really upsetting.

  • @Liduska
    @Liduska 6 месяцев назад +1251

    what im getting out of the antivax movement is that some parents would rather risk having a dead child than an autistic one :/

    • @bruhngl
      @bruhngl 5 месяцев назад

      A lot of people draw that conclusion but I really don't think it's true. These people are so incredibly misinformed that they don't even realise this is the choice they are making. They don't understand that these horrific diseases are so life threatening because (thanks to vaccinations) they have been sheltered from the symptoms and they have been convinced that autism is some debilitating form of brain damage that can ruin their children's lives. These parents believe they are choosing the lesser of two evils and, unfortunately, many of them will only realise they were wrong once it's too late.

    • @marte9346
      @marte9346 4 месяца назад

      Considering the other types of bs the antivax people are usually into, they probably could have claimed that a vax causes homosexuality, socialism or atheism and things would have ended up the same.

    • @gentlesoul221
      @gentlesoul221 4 месяца назад +114

      Correct. Sickening isn't it

    • @secretjazz93
      @secretjazz93 3 месяца назад

      not gonna lie, this is definitely me. If I wanted to have children, I would adopt. I don't want to spread my autistic DNA. I would not get them vaccinated. That's why I got a vasectomy, I don't want to spread my DNA or autism to others. I feel like it is the same thing as doing harm to someone, and I can't go for that.

    • @clalam5241
      @clalam5241 2 месяца назад +2

      Yea almost like the prospect of having an out of control non verbal feral monkey scares some parents

  • @lilypads17
    @lilypads17 2 года назад +4531

    "do you believe autism can be cured?"
    "yes"
    ah damn. he got us yall. we've just been staying autistic for like no reason

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 2 года назад +353

      Nahhhh I have a good reason; *we haven't gained access to his marrow yet...* soon... the drill is working away....

    • @kiralonely1307
      @kiralonely1307 2 года назад +191

      @@juniperrodley9843 Slurp that magic bone marrow.

    • @omidm.935
      @omidm.935 2 года назад +191

      @@juniperrodley9843 EAT THE BONES
      BECOME FREE

    • @juniperrodley9843
      @juniperrodley9843 2 года назад +72

      @@omidm.935 eat the bones
      become expensive.

    • @Christian-mt5jx
      @Christian-mt5jx 2 года назад +77

      I am wondering how that guy even goes to conferences. Is he not scared someone will drill into his bone marrow to try to 'cure' their child.

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 Месяц назад +43

    This is the start of the trend of HBomberguy trying to make an interesting 15 minute long video about something and then realizing that the rabbit hole is fucking MASSIVE

    • @Skip6235
      @Skip6235 Месяц назад +14

      Also: “I’m never making a video like this again” was definitely a lie

  • @amaristm
    @amaristm 3 месяца назад +62

    are we considering the fact that vaccines hurt and your baby is probably mad because Arm Hurty

  • @dakkyhue5800
    @dakkyhue5800 Год назад +5519

    it’s so frustrating as an autistic person that people believe that getting a potential deadly disease is better than having autism. having autism can be hard at times, but i’m still a person and i’m not “broken” or “ruined”. autism has largely been villainized, and multiple autism organizations *cough cough autism speaks* have made it way worse.

    • @thepanpiper7715
      @thepanpiper7715 Год назад +420

      See also "treatment/management" for most ofd the time that we've had a word for autism has consisted of "How do we make them act "normal"?" rather than "what support can we offer that will help them to live healthy happy lives?"

    • @batwolfy7044
      @batwolfy7044 Год назад +215

      Well lets be honest. Parents who believe that, shouldn't have children in the first place.

    • @MemezuiiSangkanskje
      @MemezuiiSangkanskje Год назад +150

      I am autistic myself & I would rather stay as I am than die of a disease that otherwise I would never have gotten

    • @djb1317
      @djb1317 Год назад +9

      It's not worth the risk at all

    • @nathanr5737
      @nathanr5737 Год назад +92

      As someone w autism, I do feel broken. But I think that’s more of something I need to get over than rooted in truth

  • @mrman36943
    @mrman36943 9 месяцев назад +875

    I mean technically speaking the chance of Alzheimer's does increase with the amount of vaccines you get because you'll probably live long enough to develop Alzheimer's

    • @hazeltade3679
      @hazeltade3679 6 месяцев назад +122

      It’s very much a gun violence and ice cream sales style correlation lol

    • @Kirkeyressa
      @Kirkeyressa 6 месяцев назад +46

      "They had us in the first half, not gonna lie."

    • @hadespuppy
      @hadespuppy 6 месяцев назад +9

      Although on the other side of things, now that shingles vaccines are getting to be more common, we're noticing that getting the vaccine seems to be correlated with reduced or delayed onset of Alzheimer's.

    • @mushu_beardie2556
      @mushu_beardie2556 6 месяцев назад +14

      @@hadespuppy possibly related to the reduced levels of inflammation in the brain in people who don't get sick because fevers cause inflammation, and getting vaccines can prevent getting sick, which prevents fevers and inflammation, which prevents the low levels of brain damage that can happen during fevers and inflammation.

  • @bumberton7958
    @bumberton7958 5 месяцев назад +129

    God, the study being evidence and then getting given to Brian Deer is such an Ace Attorney moment. Love that shit

  • @puddlel1ama327
    @puddlel1ama327 Месяц назад +36

    I'm neurodivergent and the vaccine-autism shit is honestly so exhausting. the sheer malice and hate for us is just. i don't even have words for that.

  • @froufroudeluxe
    @froufroudeluxe 2 года назад +5062

    I’m autistic and let me tell you, it beats being dead from a preventable disease

    • @froufroudeluxe
      @froufroudeluxe 2 года назад +213

      @@nenmaster5218 … I am actually autistic

    • @froufroudeluxe
      @froufroudeluxe 2 года назад +144

      @@nenmaster5218 I have seen her videos before but I don’t see what it has to do with this comment at all

    • @hulkmt
      @hulkmt 2 года назад +3

      LMAO

    • @annajensen7360
      @annajensen7360 2 года назад +145

      @@nenmaster5218 Did you just "um actually" an actually autistic person, by telling them to "listen to real autistic people"? I'm also autistic and this was a pretty insulting comment because you assumed that Froufrou Deluxe didn't know enough about their own autism, and that you somehow know better than a real autistic person because you claim to listen to real autistic people. It's just confusing

    • @ngrace11
      @ngrace11 2 года назад +12

      Same, and I'm with you there.

  • @Valcerv
    @Valcerv 3 года назад +3459

    "It can't get worse"
    "It gets worse"
    "Child abuse"
    That escalated quickly

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +27

      I hope a Video about Autism for itself
      comes soon.
      Yeah, it was mentioned here, but lets be honest:
      The Misinformation Flying around is WIIIIILD!
      Wild, i say!
      So yeah, i hope a Video about it comes next.
      About that or maybe about something more Art-like?
      No kidding, i would like to hear Hbomberguy-sensei's
      opinion on some Works of Art;
      makes me wonder if it would be something similar to
      1:42. Is that a snapshot of his Culture, i wonder?

    • @captainhoratiobungleiii7147
      @captainhoratiobungleiii7147 3 года назад +9

      @@slevinchannel7589 what misinformation? It all seems extremely well researched and chased down to the nth degree.

    • @ashikjaman1940
      @ashikjaman1940 3 года назад +42

      @@captainhoratiobungleiii7147 I think he means in general there's a lot of misinformation about autism around rather than anything in this video. But he also seems to be a bot so fuck 'em

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +9

      @@captainhoratiobungleiii7147 Why do you assume i mean Hbomberguy when i mention that Misinformation does exist in this world?
      Why?

    • @slevinchannel7589
      @slevinchannel7589 3 года назад +3

      @@captainhoratiobungleiii7147 I just mean that Misinformation is flying around the world like Ash after a Volcano Outbreak.

  • @stubbornvulpix
    @stubbornvulpix 5 месяцев назад +134

    I feel like more of the child abuse needs to be talked about because I've listened to/watched a bunch of stuff about this guy and I had never heard before that the children were given lumbar punctures. One of the most painful medical procedures that you can have done.

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 4 месяца назад +21

      Child abuse against autistic children tends not to be taken as seriously, and gets excused a lot of the time. In 2000, when I was diagnosed, the doctor told my mum that autistic kids didn't feel pain as much as non-autistic kids.

    • @Noxedwin
      @Noxedwin 3 месяца назад

      Autistic kids, like babies, can't adequately explain how they're feeling or if something is wrong. You poke the kid with a stick and they start screaming and squirming. Well, _they were doing that already,_ so are they hurt or are they just on a temper streak?
      And if they scream louder or squirm harder, they're just having a bad episode. They can't _talk_ about it, so you don't need to _hear_ about it. You give your dog shots, and they're alright by the end of the day. Same thing.
      Autistic kids, like babies, are already funny in the head, so even if it does hurt, it'll quickly get buried under the noise of the rest of their psyche, right?
      (No, you fucking monster. That's _not_ how that works. But when you're trying to communicate with a flailing shrieking minor, compassion starts to harden under the guise of "doing what's best for them".)
      I was lucky to not be abused growing up with autism, but nobody understood me (least of all, me), so I'd hopped from school to school and got bullied or shoved-out most of them. I know empathy's not really our strong suit, but I can vividly imagine how much things sucked for those kids who probably didn't even know "how" to tell their carers what they were feeling, let alone "what" to tell them. And what's worse, I can imagine that the carers thought they were doing the right things. Being cruel to be kind.
      Except Wakefield and Fudenberg. They were being cruel to get rich. And if there was any justice in the United Kingdom, they'd be swinging from the gallows.

    • @toostressedtobeblessed
      @toostressedtobeblessed Месяц назад

      Abuse of autistic children under the blanket of ABA therapy is still legal

  • @eddyslippycreps3546
    @eddyslippycreps3546 4 месяца назад +96

    my dad split my MMR vaccine into three because of this. jokes on him , still autistic 😎

    • @Alpha-zb8sp
      @Alpha-zb8sp 4 месяца назад +7

      Make sure to get MMR anyway, they threw in lots of bonus features in that release/jk

    • @keltai83
      @keltai83 3 месяца назад +9

      I never got the MMR as it hadn't been invented when I was that age and I still have autism! It can time travel! People need to be told-
      Though seriously, I prob need to check I'm still current, I have small nieces and you just know they have classmates with antivax parents.

  • @blackknightjack3850
    @blackknightjack3850 3 года назад +1911

    "A bowel disease that turns children autistic"
    I swear, this sounds like he threw darts at a board to make up a new disease.

    • @Apoc2K
      @Apoc2K 3 года назад +215

      A [spins wheel] zoonotic [throws dart] fungal infection of the [picks card] bladder that causes [hits random on WebMD] dyslexia!
      GIVE ME FUNDING!

    • @rollwulf
      @rollwulf 3 года назад +41

      Or one of those Twitter/Facebooks "Your Cat name" meme games, where you pick the last letter of your name + first digit of your phone number;. But instead of Cats it could be a "Fantasy Disease" XD
      I really feel tempted to do both of these ideas, the dart game and the meme game lmao

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 3 года назад +54

      Not entirely random, because a lot of autistics (me included) do have digestive issues, so it isn't surprising that his scam latched on to that correlation. But the actual causation (insofar as we understand it) is very much the other way around.

    • @pepi7404
      @pepi7404 3 года назад +29

      He was also a gastroenterologist afaik, so maybe he wanted to stick to the area of the body he was most familiar with.

    • @rquincy4113
      @rquincy4113 3 года назад +9

      Not quite totally false. We are currently looking into why the microbiota of autistics differs from that of the neurotypical & whether or not affecting in during childhood can help alter brain function for the better. It's 2021 guys. New shit be comin out all the time.

  • @nuntiusmortis6927
    @nuntiusmortis6927 3 года назад +4122

    1) This isn't a video. That's fucking movie.
    2) Brian Deer deserves a medal for exposing this.

    • @boogiebutters6743
      @boogiebutters6743 3 года назад +69

      Is there a equivalent medal for the "Presidential Medal of Freedom" in the UK?

    • @LordJuzzie
      @LordJuzzie 3 года назад +143

      @@boogiebutters6743 Knighthood for services to journalism or something probably

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 3 года назад +103

      Hbomberguy has completed his journey from gaming RUclipsr to long-form documentary filmmaker.

    • @ClaudiaNW
      @ClaudiaNW 3 года назад +71

      @@boogiebutters6743 There's fucktons of them (we have a very complex honours system - peerages, orders of chivalry, medals and so on). But they're handed out to people the Tory government likes, not necessarily people who deserve them. A TERF even got an OBE (Officer of the Order of the British Empire) recently.

    • @squibble311
      @squibble311 3 года назад +91

      @@LordJuzzie petition to turn Brian Deer into Sir Brian Deer

  • @sebastiana3115
    @sebastiana3115 3 месяца назад +70

    Hold on hold on hold on. Late to the party, but using my tingling doctor senses, I genuinely think I've come up with a potentially new hypothesis based on pure speculation to make all of this even worse.
    "Dialysable lymphocyte extract" sounds a lot like someone dialysing their blood and trying to get "lymphocyte extract" out of it. The result of something being "dialysed" is... dialysate. Basically a salty liquid full of human waste products. The exact nature of this fluid depends on whether it is hemodialysis (HD) or peritoneal dialysis (PD), the latter being way more nasty seeing as it's just saline that sits around in the space around your gut for a while. Seing as lymphocytes do not cross the membranes used in hemodialysis, if you want to "extract" anything from lymphocytes it needs to be peritoneal dialysis fluid.
    So...going with the caliber of human being we're working with here, let me put forth a hypothesis that I have no proof of whatsoever, but fits with the characters at play.
    Some background facts:
    - There is no way to get dialysis unless you need it. You need surgery to get the required caliber of IV access to handle the volume of blood or access to the peritoneum, and be followed up.
    - Hemodialysis is done in specialised centers, and the dialysate is usually disposed of as biological waste (not 100% sure on exact disposal routines, might vary by center).
    - Peritoneal dialysis however, is done from the comfort of your own home, and you dispose of the fluid as you will.
    - No sane person will ever undergo dialysis just for fun, over a long enough period time it often leads to potentially lethal complications.
    - Peritoneal dialysis fluid is tested for lymphocytes (actually all leukocytes usually) now and then in order to diagnose infections, and always contains a little, making every PD patient very cognisent of the fact that there are lymphocytes in PD fluid. In fact it's pretty much the only thing you ever test PD fluid for, so if there's one thing you know for sure is in there, it's that.
    - Lymphocytes come from the bone marrow. Every doctor, no matter how disgraced, knows this.
    Now, here is where the wild speculation comes in:
    Ex-Dr. Fudenberg was caught stealing drugs, in other words, he was most likely an opiate addict (this is by far the most abundant addictive drug in medical cabinets). Opiate addicts have a tendency to destroy their kidneys, and so addicts are not uncommon dialysis patients. Or he might have been a dialysis patient for a bunch of other reasons. I see in the interview that he's wearing huge sunglasses, which might be because he's blind. This would fit with a poorly controlled diabetes for instance, which destroys your eyes and kidneys. This part is very very speculative, so take this particular paragraph with extra salt.
    Now, put yourself in the mind of disgraced Ex-Dr. Fudenberg, the opiate addict and dialysis patient. You're doing your peritoneal dialysis at home, you're poor because you got no job, no MD, and you have an opiate addiction. You're also generally just a huge piece of shit. You look at the bag of peritoneal dialysate, dirty saline water that is getting pumped out of your gut after sitting there overnight, and you ask yourself...can I sell this shit?
    So you boil down the dialysate, which will leave mostly some whitish powder which is mostly the salt from the saline, mixed with human waste products and remains of cells (including lymphocytes). You pack it up in a pill, and call it "Dialysable lymphocyte extract", and you try to market it through a quack paper as a cure against autism. When interviewed about this by a reporter years later you keep trying to market this "product", saying that the cure is in your bone marrow because yes, technically peritoneal dialysate contains lymphocytes that indeed do in fact come from your bone marrow.
    So... if this line of complete speculation is true, Andrew Wakefield might have fed a child an old mans boiled down dialysis fluid. One pill at a time, every other day, for three to six months.
    TLDR: "Dialysable lymphocyte extract" might quite possibly be human waste.

    • @crazyinsane500
      @crazyinsane500 3 месяца назад +18

      Holy shit. . . You just scienced out what this totally was.

    • @sebastiana3115
      @sebastiana3115 3 месяца назад +26

      @@crazyinsane500 well, I formed a hypothesis anyhow. If I was truly going to science this shit out, I would spend hours and hours of my life reading through the initial Fudenberg paper, watching the interview and looking for other sources to see if the evidence that's out there fits with the hypothesis I just constructed.
      ...I'll get back to you on that one.

    • @biggy0917
      @biggy0917 3 месяца назад

      ​@@sebastiana3115commenting to see if u have any updates

    • @ClemDiamond
      @ClemDiamond 3 месяца назад

      ​@@sebastiana3115How's the hypothesis going ? Found any evidence ? I want to know because if true, this guy was either a sick mind or the greatest troll that ever lived. "Here child, eat my boiled waste, that'll cure your... *spins wheel* autism !"

    • @jfarrar19
      @jfarrar19 3 месяца назад

      So. Can i argue that Wakefield made kids eat dried piss?

  • @theshadynorwegian6036
    @theshadynorwegian6036 5 месяцев назад +149

    My girlfriend is in the low 20s and has autism. autists are just people who need some extra help. Extra clarification in communication, extra consideration. it really is crazy how it's viewed by a lot of the general public, her father included.

    • @fieryrebirth
      @fieryrebirth 5 месяцев назад +25

      Not exactly "help", but yes, consideration, understanding, and a lot less ignorance from the neurotypical world.

    • @shaftjerker3000
      @shaftjerker3000 5 месяцев назад

      Speak for urself dawg, autism is a disability lol we do need help most of the time! ​@@fieryrebirth

    • @abcdefgold
      @abcdefgold 3 месяца назад +5

      please remember that autism is a spectrum and while some may only need consideration & understanding, there are some that will need life long round the clock care, and it's important to keep them in mind - because it was the most extreme cases that the media focused on, and that's one of the ways in which they were able to more effectively terrify parents. We have family friends with an autistic son who is lovely and so kind, but is not able to care for himself and his parents are so worried about what will happen to him when they pass away

    • @Noxedwin
      @Noxedwin 3 месяца назад +3

      Speaking as someone who also has autism, I'm sure your girlfriend tries really hard. She deserves respect. Not _necessarily_ "help", but patience and a gentle nudge every now and then works wonders. I know what you mean, and I bet it comes from the right place, but she's not "disabled". You're her friend, not her carer, and it's important to know where the boundaries are between you two.
      Life's frustrating when you're on a different wavelength to your own brain. It's like trying to hold a conversation with someone in a small, crowded room where everyone is talking at once. Or like you're talking into a microphone that's set to play back your voice one second after you start speaking. You can't hear yourself *because of **_yourself,_* and your brain starts thrashing so hard trying to understand this now-junked information that you forget to look after yourself.
      So be cool (like, in both temper and general attitude) and patient and gentle. And figure out how to communicate with each other, because the ability to use words the right way is one of the first things that breaks down when an autist starts getting flustered, and it very quickly turns into frustration and bad temper. At least in my case.

    • @theshadynorwegian6036
      @theshadynorwegian6036 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Noxedwin yeah, we're a year into the relationship, and the biggest thing is communication and patience. "help" is the wrong word, you're right. that's not what they "need", but I still love helping my gf, not because of the autism, but because I want to be the best I can for her.

  • @Joescomancgeordie
    @Joescomancgeordie 3 года назад +2763

    I’m an autistic person. It’s always felt insulting to me that people would actually prefer risking their child having polio to autism. As if to suggest autism is bad at all much less on par with polio. I know I would prefer being who I am now to being in an IRON LUNG!

    • @aWildJellieAppeared
      @aWildJellieAppeared 3 года назад +185

      Same, I’m on the spectrum and it genuinely upsets me that some parents would rather risk their child DYING rather them being autistic

    • @angryengine9616
      @angryengine9616 3 года назад +2

      Left wing nonsense.

    • @ewarwoowar9938
      @ewarwoowar9938 3 года назад +42

      This is such a good point.

    • @AngelofGrace96
      @AngelofGrace96 3 года назад +9

      @@morriganx6021 yes, yes it does

    • @lnplum
      @lnplum 3 года назад +133

      I didn't get vaccinated as a kid and still turned out to be autistic. Take that, Wakefield!

  • @CabereaWoof
    @CabereaWoof 2 года назад +8019

    My mother is an anti-vaxxer so me and my brothers weren't vaccinated. We all have autism. By applying Wakefields research methods to this, I have concluded that vaccines are able to prevent autism. Can I be paid millions of dollars for my 'research' now, or do I need to publish a book first?

    • @ninjasolidsnake
      @ninjasolidsnake 2 года назад +592

      You need to get a publicist too. Regardless of your current profession.

    • @AnimatedTerror
      @AnimatedTerror 2 года назад +461

      Also a shady lawyer to help finance your work is usually recommended but not required.

    • @ithinkflutterawesome6511
      @ithinkflutterawesome6511 2 года назад +385

      You are just as, if not more, credible than Disgraced Doctor Andrew Jeremy Wakefield. I applaud your commitment to science, how much money can I give you to pretend to go do a study about this?

    • @CabereaWoof
      @CabereaWoof 2 года назад +338

      @@ithinkflutterawesome6511 I will gladly accept anywhere between the range of excessive and ludicrous amounts of money in exchange for me doing nothing and saying I did.

    • @ava_marie_v
      @ava_marie_v 2 года назад +185

      @@CabereaWoof Oh my gosh, my aunt is antivax as well, and all of her kids are neurodivergent (two with autism, three with ADHD). I would love to volunteer them for this highly scientific study.

  • @Vgn1701
    @Vgn1701 5 месяцев назад +110

    Just got to the part where you say "Get a colonoscopy, I'm serious, cancer kills". Thank you for including that even though the procedure sounded unpleasant. I've lost a family member to intestinal cancer at a "young" age (50) as well, and it hurts so much to know it could have been discovered so much earlier. So thank you for including that.
    Also, ofc the video is incredibly well done, presented, and researched. I'll recommend this to everyone.

    • @saraghhh
      @saraghhh Месяц назад +2

      I’ve had several due to colon cancer running in the family and I can honestly say that getting my teeth cleaned at the dentist is more uncomfortable than a colonoscopy. So if that’s preventing anyone from going for it, it’s waaaay less uncomfortable than you think it is.

  • @bethanybrookes8479
    @bethanybrookes8479 4 месяца назад +65

    I was so glad when I found out about Brian deer. Apparently, my parents were sitting on the fence about of they would get their kid's vaccinated if they ever had one, then whilst my mum was pregnant with me, that documentary came out and she chose to get the vaccine when I was old enough. I understand her fear, she was a first time parent with all these news sources screaming at her that if she got me vaccinated, I'd get autism and bowel issues. So I don't blame her, but I'm so greatful that she did see that documentary and choose to get me, and later on my younger brother, vaccinated.
    Because I remember growing up and seeing and hearing new reports of measles outbreaks in cities around the UK. Heck, I'm pretty sure there's one in Birmingham right now, last I heard 3 children were hospitalised, but that was a few days ago and it's likely gotten worse. But each time, I am so glad my mum chose to get me an MMR vaccine.
    Especially since I know people who genuinely cannot get the vaccine because their immune system hates them and as a result, they have to rely on herd immunity and hoping that other people maintain hygiene. Opting against vaccination when you are able to get one is just selfish.

    • @anuuragkanase
      @anuuragkanase 4 месяца назад +10

      that's good we need journalists like Brian deer, makes you wonder how many lives he's influenced

    • @Noxedwin
      @Noxedwin 3 месяца назад +2

      @@anuuragkanase Not enough, frankly. But, supposedly, book sales went up measurably after this video happened. So I have nothing but praise and respect for Deer's scholasticism and HBomb's emotion and compassion.
      And Kat's wit. That's important, too.

  • @IAmNecroplanter
    @IAmNecroplanter Год назад +1739

    "if youre lying, then your book is also lying" is so underrated. good on that reporter.

    • @LostStarzOfTheSky
      @LostStarzOfTheSky Год назад +124

      sometimes you really gotta just say "No I don't believe you cause you're a lying liar that lies"

    • @salt7456
      @salt7456 Год назад +31

      You mean Anderson cooper? I don’t watch a lot of cnn but I at least know his name.

    • @brookejon3695
      @brookejon3695 Год назад +5

      That's one of the few killer moments from the best TV personality CNN has. I wish he was better.

    • @wr2899
      @wr2899 11 месяцев назад +49

      @@salt7456are you American? Because that could, in theory, mean you’re more likely to recognise an American broadcaster, on an American platform, on an American network.

    • @tortis6342
      @tortis6342 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@salt7456 I don't watch much CNN either, I just remember he always used to be on whatever channel my parents would put on to celebrate New Year's.

  • @mlbest7000
    @mlbest7000 2 года назад +5289

    My aunt is a vaccine "skeptic" and constantly brings the Wakefield paper up, I personally like to remind her that no one has EVER shit themselves autistic

    • @ohgodno1989
      @ohgodno1989 2 года назад +8

      "Shit themselves autistic" oh my god

    • @GuiSmith
      @GuiSmith 2 года назад +352

      That’s the funniest way to retaliate, I might have to use that

    • @zanemcewen1343
      @zanemcewen1343 2 года назад +380

      While the bacteria in your gut often can dictate how you feel in your brain (it's actually true, look it up) the bacteria in your gut doesn't dictate how your brain is wired/how you see the world. So while i can kinda see what he was going for, it's still fucking stupid.

    • @Call-me-Al
      @Call-me-Al 2 года назад +3

      Not fun fact: some parents force their autistic kids to drink bleach (or give them bleach enemas) because they think that it's caused by intestinal parasites and they claim the shedded damaged intestinal lining is proof as "it looks like dead parasites! Must be dead parasites, then!". Chlorine dioxide (industrial bleach, often called 'Miracle Mineral Solution' among its proponents), however some other parents also force their autist kids to drink their own urine as autism cure, or some other dangerous chemical.
      So while shitting yourself autistic isn't a thing, parents making autist kids shit their guts out (too literally) in an attempt to "cure them" is a thing.

    • @sleepwalk-huh
      @sleepwalk-huh Год назад +7

      as an autistic person i can say that i'm shitting myself autistic every time i consume dairy so take that

  • @Matty272
    @Matty272 3 месяца назад +41

    I recently got a Covid booster and a flu shot. Now I’m autistic. I was autistic before too.

    • @rosen_venus
      @rosen_venus 3 месяца назад

      Covid booster actually makes you forget that you weren't autistic /j

  • @spoopycatstudio
    @spoopycatstudio 4 месяца назад +75

    Thank you for talking about what those children went through. My child is non-speaking and even routine doctor or dental visits are terrifying for him and require multiple people to get necessary procedures done. He doesn't always understand why a medical procedure needs to be done, and all I can do is hold him through it and comfort him the best I can. I can't imagine how traumatizing it was for those poor babies to go through that, and all just to line the pockets of a literal monster. This was the first time I ever heard the children in the study discussed in a real and compassionate way. I appreciate that so much.

  • @newbermuda
    @newbermuda 6 месяцев назад +889

    "people don't read scientific papers"
    me, with the type of autism where i enjoy reading scientific papers: 😎

    • @martinpachu7125
      @martinpachu7125 5 месяцев назад +105

      theres probably an ironic comment about the vaccine letting you read the paper but im not clever enough to make it

    • @gabrote42
      @gabrote42 5 месяцев назад +17

      Especially landmark studies like adaptive preference or papers like Concrete Problems in AI Safety

    • @spacekowboy1539
      @spacekowboy1539 4 месяца назад +15

      I was waiting for this comment cause during that part i was like “oooof welllll *gestures to myself*” XDDD

    • @ashiningsoul449
      @ashiningsoul449 4 месяца назад +12

      ​@@martinpachu7125 I'm the autistic person who reads the vaccine information sheets

    • @gentlesoul221
      @gentlesoul221 4 месяца назад +6

      ​@@ashiningsoul449i'm the ADHD person who reads car manuals

  • @iacopo538
    @iacopo538 6 месяцев назад +4860

    Incredible how the first American, Tommy Tallarico, created such a fantastic documentary on the MMR scare. Thanks, Tommy.

    • @ethanmoras6440
      @ethanmoras6440 6 месяцев назад +646

      His mother’s very proud

    • @mell7249
      @mell7249 6 месяцев назад +241

      I thought that was James Somerton?

    • @icedlava7063
      @icedlava7063 6 месяцев назад +542

      @@mell7249 James Somerton was the first gay American to talk about Tommy's documentary. Hope this helps.

    • @giac464
      @giac464 6 месяцев назад +236

      @@icedlava7063don’t forget, he was also famously held hostage by a group of savage straight women!

    • @dontaejones7419
      @dontaejones7419 6 месяцев назад +151

      ​@@giac464*straight white women

  • @maddy7765
    @maddy7765 3 месяца назад +48

    "that said i'm never putting this much effort in to a video again" and then he puts that much effort and more in to a video again

    • @cookiequeen5430
      @cookiequeen5430 3 месяца назад +2

      2 times lol

    • @sator2766
      @sator2766 2 месяца назад +2

      Proceeds to make a near a two hour video about a roblox sound effect

  • @thesilverblack708
    @thesilverblack708 Месяц назад +26

    You guys aren't going to believe this. But now Andrew Wakefield is now writing and directing Antivax drama films, with his first film called "Protocol 7" having its trailer drop just last week. And the whole premise is so absurd it reeks of desperation.

  • @lunali7209
    @lunali7209 3 года назад +3319

    this shit also made me realize how little respect adults have for children

    • @cathydinh868
      @cathydinh868 3 года назад +450

      especially neurodivergent children

    • @lunali7209
      @lunali7209 3 года назад +93

      @@cathydinh868 yup. unfortunately

    • @bandidocavalier
      @bandidocavalier 3 года назад +383

      @@cathydinh868 eh, neurodivirgent people in general. They hate us. Ive been treated like a very smart pet for most of my life and I thought it was a normal thing to do with children. I am about to move out from home and my family still talks about me in third person while i am in the room as if I was deaf or did not know how to speak spanish (im latino). It's disheartening

    • @samuelsolomon7330
      @samuelsolomon7330 3 года назад +33

      Yeah, it's sickening.

    • @Dac85
      @Dac85 3 года назад +170

      Until they use 'think of the children' as a way of enforcing their own world view on others.

  • @GFireNexus
    @GFireNexus 3 года назад +848

    "Please stop telling me to make my videos shorter"
    No. Longer. If I haven't died of old age by the time I finish a video on LGBT representation in straight-to-video Transformers movies or whatever, I won't be happy. Better shell out for fiber-optics, bomberman!

    • @cats9thlife704
      @cats9thlife704 3 года назад +3

      top tier cat mage blep 10/10

    • @headlesswaifer5797
      @headlesswaifer5797 3 года назад +18

      That sounds like a Lindsey Ellis video actually lolll

    • @Towlapeiwa
      @Towlapeiwa 3 года назад +10

      I thought I was alone! Maybe this is my “can watch RUclips at work” privilege but I love a good long video

    • @msjkramey
      @msjkramey 3 года назад +1

      I pendulum back and forth so hard. Sometimes I get frustrated that a video is under ten minutes and other times I'm mad that a video is under an hour long. These leftTubers cant seem to win with any of us lol

    • @homashu
      @homashu 3 года назад +4

      I watch these videos on repeat

  • @Dr_Andesite
    @Dr_Andesite Месяц назад +31

    There is sufficient anxiety in my mind that my mother is very proud

    • @justanamitard
      @justanamitard Месяц назад +1

      Thank you, Tojew Talafield

    • @onlykflow
      @onlykflow 24 дня назад

      nick wrote this

    • @Webb_Studios
      @Webb_Studios 11 часов назад

      @@onlykflowno, Joey wrote this. It’s always Joey

  • @creon3866
    @creon3866 4 месяца назад +44

    Thank you for this video. I’m from the UK and have had a double lung and liver transplant which means I’m in the “extremely vulnerable” category regarding covid due to the medication I have to take. Looking at me you wouldn’t know I’m any different from anyone else who isn’t vulnerable. The whole refusal to be vaccinated made me worried to go anywhere long after the lockdown ended and not only that, but hearing so many people just dismiss the possible deaths of vunerable people as “survival of the fittest” and that “they are weak anyway or are going to die anyway” was extremely depressing and really made me lose faith in people. Even among people I know who know I’m included in that category a lot of them held this belief which was shocking. The thought that I had survived such bad odds and the surgery only to die because of other peoples ignorance and cold-heartedness made me really angry and sad at the same time. I wish more people understood the things you covered in this video, but some people are too happy in their ignorance and love feeling like they’re going against some system that’s out to destroy them even tho it’s clearly not. Thank you.

  • @thinecuprunnethoverwithblood
    @thinecuprunnethoverwithblood 6 месяцев назад +2280

    As a Dark Personal Anecdote: My mother asked me as a kid if I "wanted" a specific vaccine, and I obviously said no because I was a child, therefore I did not receive it and forgot about the incident for years. (She asked me because she was mildly anti-vax, too late for that ma'am, I was born autistic, and wanted to have someone to put the blame on in case it caused problems down the line... It wasn't until this year, when I was diagnosed with an infection that was a result of assault, that I discovered I had contracted the exact infection said vaccine would have prevented. It is likely that I will develop at least one kind of cancer as a result, and still have not recovered from my own mother telling me it was my fault because I "chose" to refuse the vaccine as a kid.
    Please, for fuck sake, vaccinate your children and yourself if it is approved by your primary care physician to do so. It is not worth the risk of possibly losing your or your child's life, or ending up forever marred by a disease/infection that you could've been safe from like myself. I T I S N O T W O R T H I T

    • @jazwhoaskedforthis
      @jazwhoaskedforthis 6 месяцев назад +153

      I am so sorry that these things happened to you, compounding the pain you went through.

    • @jazwhoaskedforthis
      @jazwhoaskedforthis 6 месяцев назад +2

      Want me to square up with her for you

    • @martinpachu7125
      @martinpachu7125 5 месяцев назад +146

      how old were you?? it seems a little absurd to me to expect your child to be completely informed on every vaccine you need

    • @thinecuprunnethoverwithblood
      @thinecuprunnethoverwithblood 5 месяцев назад +252

      @@martinpachu7125 I was about 10-12 years old and, I agree, it is absurd, but also not unexpected behavior from my mother. She genuinely only put the decision on me because she needed someone to blame after shit inevitably hit the fan.

    • @kaptainKrill
      @kaptainKrill 5 месяцев назад +110

      Unfortunately, it sounds like a few people failed you, which is even worse.
      Gardasil can be given until a patient’s mid-20s, and any decent doctor will ask a patient in their late teens / early 20s if they want to get it.

  • @pineapple7024
    @pineapple7024 Год назад +5237

    Wakefield went from “hilarious money hungry quack” to “abominable human shaped creature” in like 10 minutes

    • @goncaloduarte4683
      @goncaloduarte4683 Год назад +345

      And it got worse with every minute passed, like with every chapter he would become a worse and worse person.

    • @shotgun6X
      @shotgun6X Год назад +183

      His Dorian Gray painting is just a ghoul by this point

    • @yurifairy2969
      @yurifairy2969 Год назад +89

      Even greed can't sufficiently explain this abomination pretending to be a human being.

    • @windwaker105
      @windwaker105 Год назад +15

      In for a penny in for pound it seems.

    • @P-nk-m-na
      @P-nk-m-na Год назад +53

      @@shotgun6X thats quite an insult. i know many very kind ghouls who would hate to be associated with andrew "jeremy" wakefield

  • @user-hz7tq1dh8n
    @user-hz7tq1dh8n 8 дней назад +22

    my parents didnt vaccinate me with MMR vaccine bc they thought id get autism. i have autism anyways :p

    • @_pepzi2959
      @_pepzi2959 5 дней назад +6

      Got em'

    • @Thewalliest
      @Thewalliest 4 дня назад +6

      Absolutely pranked them, good job 👍

  • @davidcanada1927
    @davidcanada1927 6 месяцев назад +152

    I've always been skeptical about vaccines and watching this put my mind at ease. Thank you

    • @senan9287
      @senan9287 5 месяцев назад +5

      What made you sceptical? Was it autism or something else?

    • @agustinconchamartinez5623
      @agustinconchamartinez5623 5 месяцев назад +19

      Great to hear.

    • @SephonDK
      @SephonDK 5 месяцев назад +10

      Good that you keep an open mind!

    • @spoopycatstudio
      @spoopycatstudio 4 месяца назад +14

      That's awesome! Changing your mind in the face of new information is hard work.

  • @divingbellstudio
    @divingbellstudio 10 месяцев назад +1560

    I am autistic and i actually find the find the part where parents would rather their kids die of preventable diseases than be even a little like me EVER SO SLIGHTLY INSULTING

    • @sciencewithfun2052
      @sciencewithfun2052 9 месяцев назад +117

      I also have autism and I want to have a chat with them, maybe one that they will never come back from

    • @Punky_Cash
      @Punky_Cash 8 месяцев назад +75

      ​@@sciencewithfun2052As somoene with high functioning autism,may I come with? I'll bring the bodybag

    • @driphearts8035
      @driphearts8035 8 месяцев назад +23

      The fear is of Low functioning autism. Which is understandable, but measles is worse

    • @noodlekeeper5150
      @noodlekeeper5150 8 месяцев назад +60

      As you should. It IS insulting.

    • @solsoups
      @solsoups 7 месяцев назад

      ​@driphearts8035 you mean high support autism?

  • @Skip6235
    @Skip6235 10 месяцев назад +2210

    I love how Wakefield’s new boss was like “You know, Andy, you’re right! This does warrant more looking into! Let’s fund a giant study to check your work!” That’s a real power move

    • @1Pidds
      @1Pidds 7 месяцев назад +324

      And then Wakefield starts cartoonishly quaking in his boots and gulps
      "S-Study? Me no like study!"

    • @leaffinite3828
      @leaffinite3828 6 месяцев назад +56

      Its proper investigation!

  • @shadowsovereign4948
    @shadowsovereign4948 2 месяца назад +23

    I really want to take a moment to appreciate Stacey and Damien, the two parents who admitted they had misidentified the vaccine as the cause of their daughter's autism. They took the time to do their own research, and instead of ascribing to confirmation bias by reading things that only reinforced their beliefs, they actually came to the conclusion that they were wrong. Not only that, but they were willing to admit on TV that they were wrong. Those are some really great parenting qualities. Performing genuine research to raise your child in a better environment, and being willing to admit your faults. It may sound basic, but so many parents do not have those critical traits. They'd rather double down and assert that they are right and everyone else, perhaps even their own child, is wrong. There's a lot of depressing stuff in this story, so I just wanted to focus in on a brief glimpse at some genuinely good people. They do still exist, don't lose hope in humanity.

  • @anubianthe1335
    @anubianthe1335 2 месяца назад +27

    why do these people think autism is so evil like wtf

    • @seanfrazee5146
      @seanfrazee5146 2 месяца назад +13

      The not doctor made up a paper about it

    • @anubianthe1335
      @anubianthe1335 2 месяца назад +7

      @@seanfrazee5146 fair

  • @pastelguts6182
    @pastelguts6182 Год назад +5334

    "This isn't skepticism. This is ignorance trying to _sound_ like skepticism."
    Such a good quote Hbomb. I'm not even joking, more people need to be aware of that.

    • @Wh40kFinatic
      @Wh40kFinatic Год назад +71

      This is one of the biggest problems we face in today's world.

    • @JC_923
      @JC_923 11 месяцев назад

      That's why the climate "skeptics" are not real skeptics. They are just denialists.

    • @Wh40kFinatic
      @Wh40kFinatic 10 месяцев назад +75

      @@cowmath77 This just sounds like the conspiracy theorist mindset when science doesn't say what they think is true. An excuse that dismisses how science *actually* works, making up scenarios that belies a lack of understanding of the subjects so they can keep their beliefs and never have to question them.
      "I'm right, it's just being suppressed because science doesn't want to be wrong!"

    • @Wh40kFinatic
      @Wh40kFinatic 10 месяцев назад

      @cowmath77 Yet science consists of institutions, individuals and countries from all across the world, scrutinizing and criticising each others' work. Are you trying to argue things like vaccines are dangerous, anthropogenic climate change is a lie and stuff like that? Perhaps I misunderstood.

    • @Wh40kFinatic
      @Wh40kFinatic 10 месяцев назад +33

      @@cowmath77 I guess the way I should word it is; do you think scientific consensus is a lie?

  • @tepidti
    @tepidti 11 месяцев назад +2410

    every time i get a vaccine i feel my autism get stronger. soon, i will have the power to get anyone into my special interests.

    • @subroy7123
      @subroy7123 11 месяцев назад +65

      What are your special interests? I'm autistic and I like movies😊

    • @SinHurr
      @SinHurr 11 месяцев назад +70

      Warhammer fans rejoice

    • @tepidti
      @tepidti 11 месяцев назад +97

      transformers, marine bio, horror, and dnd have been some of the big ones that have always stuck with me.

    • @user-qo4sh2ey5n
      @user-qo4sh2ey5n 10 месяцев назад +8

      what a power to have

    • @innocuoushappenstance6259
      @innocuoushappenstance6259 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@tepidtihell yeah dnd

  • @GGlitch.GGaming
    @GGlitch.GGaming 16 дней назад +21

    autistic here
    i never saw much of the scare, and seeing this video surprised me by how much that society was repulsed by autism
    what about us scares people so much that people are more willing to risk lives than let those lives be autistic?

    • @niteslashr
      @niteslashr 16 дней назад +12

      People fear what they don't understand. fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, and hate leads to the dark side... you get the idea.

    • @TomGhoulerie
      @TomGhoulerie 13 дней назад +7

      Yea, I’m autistic too. I think it’s just good old fashioned ableism and “different people bad”

    • @Steel9k
      @Steel9k 7 дней назад

      @@niteslashr
      Its just naive to think people do not understand vaccines, side effects and provaxers. Provaxers are simple. And the rest are human rights: simple again..

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy 2 дня назад

      @@Steel9k you do not understand vaccines

  • @skinksies
    @skinksies Месяц назад +26

    as someone with autism i'd rather have autism than die from measles

    • @dontcaremate
      @dontcaremate Месяц назад +6

      as someone with autism id personally rather die (not because of my autism, because the world hates me for being autistic and i am depressed)

    • @Steel9k
      @Steel9k Месяц назад

      What about dying from vaccine side effects than contracting an infectious disease and recovering in a few weeks?

    • @yrmmishere
      @yrmmishere Месяц назад +18

      ​​@@Steel9kWhat about shutting your mouth, finding better things to do with your precious time and just leaving us autistic people alone?

  • @hmmmooops
    @hmmmooops 3 года назад +2741

    Harris literally every time: I'm never putting this much effort in anything again
    Also Harris literally always in the next video: The moon landing was real *I went and checked*

    • @pepi7404
      @pepi7404 3 года назад +197

      "And I'm gonna settle this matter over the course of this 6 hour RUclips video."

    • @imsotiredofthiscrap2341
      @imsotiredofthiscrap2341 3 года назад +152

      "And as you can see there is not, in fact, oxygen in space as I did not bring an extra oxygen tank and am now slowly dying."

    • @johnmacrae2006
      @johnmacrae2006 3 года назад +6

      @HmmmOOOPS
      NASA: We can’t go back to the moon because we lost the telemetry data
      Also NASA: We are going to Mars

    • @peterprime2140
      @peterprime2140 3 года назад +40

      @@johnmacrae2006 Literally no one has said that we can't go back to the moon, go back to your weird fascist channels.

    • @johnmacrae2006
      @johnmacrae2006 3 года назад

      @@peterprime2140
      Don Pettit absolutely said it, verbatim. NASA backed him up also.
      This makes me a fascist how?

  • @dr.timelord0483
    @dr.timelord0483 Год назад +4278

    My biggest question with this entire movement, this entire quack study, is: "In what world would a parent prefer their child to suffer through horrible sickness and disease, and even death, to being autistic?" Seriously, it's such a big deal that a child must not be autistic, but death is a better option? A lot of my friends, and myself, are autistic and we're doing just fine! People are insane

    • @therealmarkzuckerberg
      @therealmarkzuckerberg Год назад +462

      Unfortunately I’ve seen people online that would rather have a dead kid. One person in this very comment section said “they say it’s better to have an autistic child than a dead child. I disagree. I’d rather have a kid with a good brain than a broken brain.” I mean that’s probably just an edgy teenager craving attention but it shows just how ableist people can be against autistics to the point where they say we have a broken brain.

    • @dr.timelord0483
      @dr.timelord0483 Год назад +226

      @@therealmarkzuckerberg Very odd hearing this from someone who owns a site that propagates this stuff, but overall yeah, it's just such a shitty thing to go through for us, especially when we meet these people irl

    • @therealmarkzuckerberg
      @therealmarkzuckerberg Год назад +195

      @@dr.timelord0483 lol I probably should change my name but good point

    • @GodStillHatesUs
      @GodStillHatesUs Год назад +25

      Right ?! Parents of the year here for sure.

    • @chainswordcs
      @chainswordcs Год назад +168

      that's such a selfish mindset for the parents to have too. like, how does *the autistic person* feel?
      and if a neurodivergent person suffers from depression (chronic or otherwise), often times the root cause is the way they are all treated by society and that their needs aren't being accomodated for.
      a depression thought like "i hate that my brain is 'broken'" only comes into being because society refuses to accomodate neurodivergent people in need.

  • @artoriapendragon3234
    @artoriapendragon3234 4 месяца назад +29

    speaking to the frustration of being mildly autistic as a kid, I have to say, the most frustrating part of it all is people treating me like I'm obviously an idiot. Autism doesn't make me stupid, it makes me socially awkward. The inability to adhere to societal norms in this world is pretty much just activating the inner bigot of human beings cause they subconsciously can't stand you. I still remember one person in Marching Band when I was in high school who acted like shit to me. Me, and a few of the other band members were all baffled as to "Why" and as it turned out, it was because " my voice sounded immature" ... yeah... she treated me like the scum of the earth cause she didn't like my voice. What do you even call that? Voicist?! I'd hate to imagine how I'd be treated if I were both black AND autistic.

    • @average.yt.commenter609
      @average.yt.commenter609 4 месяца назад

      That's just being socially awkward

    • @artoriapendragon3234
      @artoriapendragon3234 4 месяца назад +10

      you didn't read the whole comment did you? -_-.. yes.. I did in fact state, my autism made me socially awkward.@@average.yt.commenter609

    • @robokill387
      @robokill387 4 месяца назад +6

      Plus people judge your intelligence based on your voice tone and social skills, not your ability. Non speaking people are routinely treated as nonsentient objects rather than people. It's disgusting.

    • @average.yt.commenter609
      @average.yt.commenter609 4 месяца назад

      @@artoriapendragon3234 I did in fact read it more than once. My argument is that your social awkwardness (among other things) might have caused a psychologist to miss diagnose your autism.

    • @Evilfonics
      @Evilfonics 3 месяца назад

      Welcome to hell mfs 😂 basically tho…like you telling me words alone aren’t communication enough I need tone, body language, eye contact and emotion lmfao that’s too much on my mental no way in hell am I doing all that consciously frfr crazy how people do all subconsciously I’m not diagnosed with autism I have it’s evil brother skitzoid lmfao so it’s not that bad since I don’t have any social reward system people talk to me and I’m not bothered to reply half the time unless it’s relevant so people think I’m just thinking I’m better than them but I don’t really care what they think I’m focused on whatever task I’m doing besides when people talk over me I want to act out violently so I just don’t talk because I don’t like jail

  • @anonymoususer188
    @anonymoususer188 2 месяца назад +18

    The number one rule of investigative journalism is that the harder someone tries to prevent you from finding out the truth, the more likely it is to be worth reporting to the public.

  • @Ectoplasmicphantom2
    @Ectoplasmicphantom2 3 года назад +2043

    Personally, i'm still waiting for "horses, a measured response."

    • @jliller
      @jliller 2 года назад +62

      Neigh.

    • @jokehu7115
      @jokehu7115 2 года назад +79

      You cant response against something that doesn't exist

    • @mayabartolabac
      @mayabartolabac 2 года назад +31

      @@jokehu7115 then make a response about horse believers! they exist

    • @recreant359
      @recreant359 2 года назад

      JTRH,NBR

    • @Able542
      @Able542 2 года назад +19

      @Iron Ostrich I'm anti-road. Eliminate them. Replace them with an increasingly intricate system of canals. Move into the sea with the Innsmouth peeps. You can do anything.

  • @Keraph
    @Keraph 6 месяцев назад +1711

    Brian Deer is such a fucking hero, holy shit.

    • @archivist_13
      @archivist_13 5 месяцев назад +80

      No kidding, dude makes me want to be a journalist

    • @gizoginjr
      @gizoginjr 5 месяцев назад +110

      Seriously, go read “The Doctor Who Fooled the World” if you get a chance. I did, and there are so many details that didn’t make it into this video. Like, the reason Wakefield settled on measles specifically, rather than any other disease like mumps or rubella? That’s a weird thing to cling to, right? He’s not an epidemiologist or microbiologist.
      Turns out, he had some pictures of mystery inflammation from people’s guts and literally looked through a textbook of viral infections for the first one that kind of matched the pictures. That’s how he got to measles.

    • @rasmusforchhammer9557
      @rasmusforchhammer9557 4 месяца назад +5

      That's wild ​@@gizoginjr

  • @Superdavo0001
    @Superdavo0001 2 месяца назад +20

    Re-watching this after the UK government released the Cass report, pushing bad science in various ways and rejecting 98% of all research to claim there is no research into trans healthcare, really makes me feel like our media environment has learned literally nothing. Quite depressing really.

  • @McBehrer
    @McBehrer 5 месяцев назад +35

    1:19:38
    "Well, if you're lying, then your book is also a lie"
    lmao fuckin GET him, Cooper

  • @thatmadmoose6015
    @thatmadmoose6015 Год назад +1706

    Wakefield’s explanation for how vaccines cause autism sounds like something I’d read from a new Vegas skill check

    • @therealgeneralMacArthur
      @therealgeneralMacArthur Год назад +203

      A skill check that you failed spectacularly*

    • @DavidRamirez-se2yt
      @DavidRamirez-se2yt Год назад +10

      Aw yeah 69

    • @gesamtszenario
      @gesamtszenario Год назад +167

      "I said I had a theoretical degree in medicine."

    • @battlion507
      @battlion507 Год назад +53

      @@gesamtszenario
      [FAILED] Well I have a degree of knowing stupidity and BS.

    • @destroyer4929
      @destroyer4929 Год назад +12

      @@gesamtszenario and they said welcome aboard

  • @SpanielTower
    @SpanielTower 3 года назад +2338

    Wakefield was saying that the cause of the autism was a “leaky gut”, meanwhile he was actually puncturing children’s intestines with unsafe colonoscopies. I know it doesn’t matter now, but that sounds related somehow

    • @labmanatlarge
      @labmanatlarge 3 года назад +135

      Yeah especially because he poked so many holes in one kid that the kid was hospitalized in another hospital

    • @swimmyswim417
      @swimmyswim417 3 года назад +90

      Might have something to do with that disease he was trying so hard to invent.

    • @rheegret8405
      @rheegret8405 3 года назад +10

      Nah probably just a coincidence

    • @dirkmaes3786
      @dirkmaes3786 3 года назад +23

      Hans Asperger sent nearly 800 children to their deaths in compliance with the Nazi Aktion T4 eugenics program.

    • @moonsaves
      @moonsaves 3 года назад +41

      @@dirkmaes3786 Is this the classic "because a literal Nazi did something worse, that makes it okay" argument?

  • @darlingmei6600
    @darlingmei6600 2 месяца назад +35

    My dad was a COVID vaccine denier. He's always been afraid of needles, and even though he was okay with getting the flu shot every year, when COVID began happening he was convinced they were rushing the job to get the vaccine out and it was therefore unsafe and part of a larger conspiracy.
    My mom (a nurse) and I tried multiple times over the early pandemic to convince him to come get vaccinated (we both did as soon as it was possible for us), but he wouldn't budge. Eventually, my mom told me he couldn't be convinced and to just drop it.
    In December 2022, he got COVID - and a pretty bad case at that. He was bedridden for a week and it took him a couple more to return to a general normal. He lost all sense of smell and taste, and even though it mostly recovered, it's still much weaker than it used to be and it goes in and out for him. He's got long COVID too - brain fog, neurological problems, fatigue, and more. He tells me often how disappointed he is in himself for having shunned the vaccine, knowing that it may have saved him all this pain.
    Go get vaccinated - even if you don't think you need it.

    • @LogicalSkeptic
      @LogicalSkeptic Месяц назад +2

      How much did the government pay you?

    • @jedisalsohere
      @jedisalsohere Месяц назад +30

      ​@@LogicalSkepticwe really do live in a post-truth era, don't we

    • @darlingmei6600
      @darlingmei6600 Месяц назад +30

      @@LogicalSkeptic lol, lmao even

    • @thesilverblack708
      @thesilverblack708 Месяц назад +28

      @@LogicalSkeptic Denial is a hell of a drug.

    • @Yourwaifuisntreal
      @Yourwaifuisntreal Месяц назад +20

      ​@@LogicalSkeptic- They payed me the entire gdp of Uganda. Seethe and mald about it, you broke-ass npc. 😂

  • @thatguyfromak5190
    @thatguyfromak5190 5 месяцев назад +31

    As someone with an autistic sibling, knowing that so many people would rather have those closest do them die slow, preventable deaths over giving an little bit extra accommodation and love to those who are like her is very disheartening and near the top of my list of what I dislike about humanity. My sister isn't broken, she isn't a victim. She's one of the most beautiful souls I know and lives a much happier life than I do honestly. I never have viewed her as being sick or even "different", she's just another person with certain needs my whole family is more than used to. My parents are far from perfect when it comes to separating crackpot conservative views from objective reality (let's just say the COVID era has been interesting...) but they never started on that "vaccines start autism" shit even once. Me and my sister got fully jabbed and they love us both so much, they're setting my sister up great with resources and support that maintains her agency and again, they don't mind giving the extra effort and attention at those moments when it's needed.
    No one's reading this but HB, thank you for what you do and have continued to do since posting this video. To paraphrase yourself at the end of this video (and hopefully avoid plagiarism!), you have taken the depression energy that millions of us have at the current state of the world and have used it for an undeniable positive impact on the lives of many. I hope to find my own way to make a similar change, during 2022-2023 I really began to close myself off and retreat inward... but your work is giving me the strength to try and live boldly again.