Conservative Comedy Destroyed My Life
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One thing to understand is that alot of Gen X left wingers or liberals (pls don't kill me with terminology I'm a dumb dumb) have switched slowly to conservative beliefs, my mom did the same thing. I believe the idea of freedom of body and distrust of the government of that generation causes them to make the switch. You will likely find more Gen Xers who have switched from lib to con
so goddamn happy you're back m8
Why is your channel always so cynical? Lady Ballers was exactly what we needed today world
@bigJoel
I Laughed so hard at 22:25 . Beacause, the answer is... the USA has the fastest rate of Atheism in the world and an Atheist lives a life closer to the teachings of Jesus than the modern American self-identifying Christian. 🤣
I know you probably won't read it, but your video made me very emotional, just seeing nostalgia critic part and Roseanne Barr made me feel bad for them, I wondered what happend in their lives that they turned out that way (oh and the same goes for people like Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh), is the reason why they act like that rooted in childhood trauma? Self hatred? I can't be even mad at Roseanne because in how pitful situation she is, how lied to she is. I would really love to know what pushed them where they are right now
"we wanted to make a doc about how easy it is to join womens basketball as a man but we couldnt do it because it wasnt easy at all"
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THEN
They were probably thinking one of 2 things:
1) Even if trans women "go all the way" they still have some intrinsic advantage at sports just by way of having a Y chromosome. This belief is obviously very wrong but if you did believe this then criticising trans people in sports would at least be a logical course of action even if you exaggerated it substantially in doing so
2) They don't actually care about trans people in sports at all directly, they only care about using it as the thin end of the wedge to promote transphobia in general, and eventually overall queerphobia
@bosstowndynamics5488 so why do men only go into women sports and not vice versa? Because of the natural difference in bone structure and natural muscle we have? Once enough mentally challenged ppl join the women sports there won't be women sports just men sports.
@@bosstowndynamics5488 im all for living at let live.....but i kinda do think that trans women do have an advantage over they XX peers when it comes to sport.
i agree that those folks dont give a flying fuck about female sport/leagues but......that doesnt make the advantage point invalid.
@@notyourdamnbusiness8795 The fact they don't care isn't what invalidates the advantage point, the reason most people don't consider trans athletes to have an advantage is because, for the most part, they don't. This isn't as new of an area as reactionaries would have you believe, there's been studies on the performance of cis vs trans women and after a period on hormones their performance is largely equivalent in most sports, with the exceptions being areas where being tall confers an advantage more than anything else as post puberty MTF transition tends to result in being taller than cis women (and even then you could just stratify athletes by height, the actual thing conferring advantage, instead of mostly meaningless markers like chromosomes).
The only thing the y chromosome does is make testosterone, so in and of itself it confers no advantage to athletes on exogenous hormones that suppress testosterone production - this is the key reason DW couldn't do a "documentary", because none of their cis man participants were willing to self inflict gender dysphoria by going on hormones for it, and even if they were they would almost certainly have lost anyway since a bit of height can't compensate for far less skill even in a height advantage game like basketball.
It is so bizarre to me that he outright said that. Its one thing to intend it, say it, then edit it out.
It's crazy to me he admitted it publicly. That the entire premise of his comedy is nonsense.
"Your gender is: 'Get a job!' " is the most singularly distilled line of boomer comedy I have ever heard
It's all of their jokes combined into one elegant phrase.
It’s kind of gold ngl
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@@atleyf3500 yup
And far funnier than most of their other trans jokes.
"I hated lockdown because I had to spend time with my spouse/family" is peak sad boomer humour
Please, do not go to comedy shows...youre gonna hate it and miss the point of every joke told.
idk young people joke abt how annoying it is to be around your family for a long time pretty often
@@gardeninthevoid and we laugh at them too. its just a stereotype of old people hating their husbands/wives
@@skyler4211 Which is far more than just a stereotype, there's a terrible lot of truth to it. This stereotype didn't come outta nowhere.
Worked all the way through, wouldn’t know.
I'm fascinated by the skit about the conservative teacher. When he says the line "You have objectively weak parents..." and it cuts to the woke SJW looking shocked, I was expecting him to finish the line by going "But I can help" or "but that doesn't mean you have to be weak" and he'd then inspire the kid to be a cool strong traditional American or whatever.
But no, he just goes "You're also weak and I hate you" and it made me realize, he doesn't want to "correct" the kid or take them under his wing and show them how to be a "strong" person or whatever, it's just time to shit on the kid. He doesn't want to improve lives or help kids like a teacher might, he basically is just there to roast all of the students and make them sad. That's all he wants, that's all his audience wants, they just want to bully those nasty woke liberals
a pattern i've noticed with transphobes is telling trans people to "get help", yet in the many times i've seen said suggestion, none actually answer what this "help" is. it's almost like they don't actually want to ""help"" trans people, but just further taunt them.
@@stardusst "get help" usually just means "jOin tHE 40% hHEhEHEHhEHh!!!" when you dig deep enough
the cruelty is the joke
@@stardusst They don't want them to get 'help' they want them to be gone so they don't have to deal with them.
When I hear "get help" the joke is usually that the person has a mental illness (help being therapy/medication). In that context, it makes perfect sense since it implies that gender nonconformity is a mental illness. Thankfully I've never had to deal with someone that deep in the conservative hole.
I feel bad for the little girl who had to learn pages of dialogue about how she's inferior to boys
funny since she’s easily the best actor in the movie
@@ianianianianian Funny in the most depressing way possible.
I hate being told I'm inherently racist because I'm white
That part really threw me off, like what, are they addressing misogyny in conservative narrative? Are they admitting that there is such a thing as performing a gender? I´m still confused what actually happened there.
@@maxmote23huh? Try to grunt more intelligently please
Roseanne Barr just yelling "Stalinism" and "Communism" reminds me of the Family Guy episode where Lois Griffin is running for office and just says "9/11" to get cheers lol
Haha
OMG THIS
@@rabidrabbitshuggers
"9/11.... was bad!"
I think of that episode often. That and the futurama election with Jack Johnson running against John Jackson
@@0ldar A damn classic haha
Fun fact... i was homeschooled my whole life, conservative religious household, and didnt get access to the internet until i was 15..... and guess what... figured out that im gay.... almost as if you cant teach kids to be gay...
If I wanted a gay kid, I think that's how I would go about it.
Sorry for your condition, I pray you get better.
@@ffff7164
Sorry for your lack of braincells, I'll pray for you to get better.
Unless… the INTERNET made you gay 😱
Same here, didn't own a computer till 18 and knew i was trans before i knew the word existed, i was like 11 and had never even heard the concept.
idk about you, but itts kind of gross how the writers made a little girl act out a line where she describes that essentially men are better than women at most things
Then a full grown adult guy tells her it's her job to make babies
REALLY gross
The fact they taught her to say penis several times. Really gross. Let’s wait about 10-15 years or so and see if there’s sketchy stuff going on behind the scenes. I hope there isn’t but it wouldn’t be suprising.
Conservatives being a danger to children? Who'd have thunk it.
This is apparently peak comedy for edgy teenagers.
Weird.
@@CAT-2323oh I can tell you right now, there 100% is
I love that Paul Saladino eats only raw animal organs and yet his last name is mostly salad
Holy shit 😂
facts ‼️
Paul Salad-eat-o
You can never trust someone's name. Dino Dini's real name is "Dinosaur Dinisaur," yet he inexplicably evolved from a mammal.
Brilliant
"I was a weird chubby dweeb"
Shows three pictures of himself looking exactly the same
Big Joel: Conservative Comedian
he looked like the kind of guy i would have dated back then
I was very confused about „chubby“
he looks somewhat evil
@@quali-vd3udhe really does
Amazing that Doug Walker spent the entire Wall review calling Roger Waters whiny for making a concept album/film partly about the physical and emotional abuse he suffered at the hands of his teachers during his childhood when he has complained extensively and earnestly about how awful it was for people to make fun of him as a kid for sharing a first name with a popular children's cartoon character.
Because if he is called whinny about it, he can deny it and say he was playing a character for the sake of comedy. Doug Walker's wall is made of irony.
I feel like no one talks about how JP went from making fun of conspiracy theorists to BEING a full on conspiracy theorist, and his conservatives viewers didn't bat an eye.
He went full crazy
Did he? What happened?
*Humor me, I'm tired and it's past google o'clock* 🙏🏻
@@littlestbroccoli It's in the video above, like the first 1/3 or so
Ben Shapiro's idea about making Ladyballers a documentary, but not being able to do it because it's very premise just doesn't exist is endlessly funny. Instead of making up a guy to get mad at, he made up an entire reality.
@@qjames0077lol wrong again
Ben actually said they wanted to make it a documentary and couldn't find any leagues that were a free for all like you morons think
@@qjames0077 i think lia thomas is not similar to the charachters in this movie. She is not fake-transitioning and conspiring to compete in womens sports to win--that is a imaginary thing that exists only in the movie
@@vex7550you’re right, he’s a f3t!shist man who’s into AGP with his boyfriend, not a transgendered person at all, or in any shape or form a woman.
@@qjames0077 You hit the nail on the head. Ladyballers was a terrible movie because it had low production value and bad writing. You can make almost any topic funny if the writing is witty and sharp. That movie, much like this video, is intended to promote a narrative and reassure members of it's team that they are correct and the others guys are the bad guys. It's makes us all dumber as a society but it makes it much easier to manipulate people.
@qjames0077 literally not at all, also, most if not all of the records she broke have been broken AGAIN, by cis women. You are almost comically wrong
I freaking hate how seriously Ricky Gervais takes himself.
Yeah. If he was a little less self important he would be much funnier.
@@1travstone even George Carlin, the king of speaking truth to power and making incredibly cutting social commentary in his stand up, only ever said "My job is thinkin' up goofy s**t"
He thinks he's the second coming of Comedy Christ
There's a reason his character getting stabbed in stardust is so euphoric.
@@jamesbest9038 george carlin became unbearable towards the end though. i liked his last few comedy specials as a teen, but going back to them now i find him to be misanthropic to the point of self parody
bro wanted to prove how easy it was to join the women's basketball league but couldn't, reminds me of that one always sunny episode where dennis is trying to prove how easy it is to buy guns but he's acting like a lunatic so no one would sell it to him
That first guy sounds like he just realized conservatives are way more lucrative to appeal to and he got lost in the sauce
partly, but it also sounds like he got kicked out of his cult for 'being too masculine' (molestation)
@@ulture ... por que?
@@ulturehe did what now?
@@iananderson4754 I did some googling to see if there are any allegations against him, but it looks like @ulture made that up.
@@ulture unless you know something I don’t, sounds like a bit of a stretch. “Too masculine” can mean anything like butting heads with leadership or even just being a general ass no one likes
For fucks sake, the 'joke' about the sea levels rising would be so easy to do as an actual joke.
"I moved to California and went straight to the sea and the levels were LITERALLY rising before my eyes! Halfway through the day they went back down again but THEN came right back up that very evening!"
Yeah you could word that better but 'person who believes in climate change confuses the tide with sea levels rising' at least has an actual joke in there somewhere.
I truly thought that's the direction it was going, I was almost going to defend it in advance
I genuinely thought that was going to be the joke. It was maybe a bit predictable with the pre amble, but wouldn't have been *not* funny I guess
i was bracing for that punchline because i've heard it so many times. shock value usually leads to funnier moments, but here it somehow made it worse.
Nr
@@Isak_Real like many other conservative jokes that appear to have a couple of extra beats crammed in there, my money would be on them initially considering telling the joke that way but deciding most of their audience would need an explanation about the rising tides.
The "nostalgia critic erotica" in the search history was a rly funny touch. I dont know why but search history jokes always get me
i think it's relevent that a lot of the 'humor' in conservative media is coming from a place of power. Its punching down or bullying. A lot of the jokes i see conservatives make is treating people who are different from them as the punchline. Theyre not laughing about something funny or relatable. They're laughing at the person. Trans people are 'funny' because being trans in itself is considered absurd.
There's just this inherent bad faith in these jokes, because the comedian doesnt really understand the culture or people they're pointing and laughing at. Their jokes are based on stereotypes and generalizations of people, not actual reality. Like with lady balls, the jokes arent based on real trans people, the jokes arent about situations or absurdities trans people deal with. Its based around the conservative idea of trans people. Theyre mocking what they think trans people are because what theyre imagining is absurd. Its out of touch with reality and thats why its so bad.
If a comedian is making an arguement with their jokes, if they're trying to point out the absurdity of a situation, it should relate back to a truth. Truth is what resonates with people. Bigots treat their ideas of minorities as reality and that's why the jokes only land with other bigots. Its not funny, because it doesn't make sense.
A good example is disabled humor. I'm disabled, almost every disabled person i know has a sense of humor about their situation, even if the jokes can get dark. Disabled people joking with other disabled people about their disabilities is funny, but pretty often we'll have able-bodied people getting offended on our behalf. Because they dont understand what its like to be disabled. from what they imagine, it isn't funny. They don't have access to the truth at the heart of the jokes, so the jokes don't land for them.
But then an abled person will makes jokes about disabled people, and they clearly don't know the reality of being disabled. Theyre going off how they imagine being disabled is. And the jokes will land better with fellow able-bodied people, because they share the perspective of the comedian.
There will still be people offended on our behalf. But the reasons we disabled people would be offended is that the jokes misrepresent our reality. It's the difference between laughing with us and laughing at us. The joke isn't funny to us, because we're not who the joke is for, despite being who the joke is about.
Thats why so much conservative humor reads as mean-spirited to me. The jokes are at the expense of others without critical thought about who they're laughing at. They're arguing for a reality that isn't true. And thats not really something that we can argue back to. Facts and reason and different perspectives don't land with people who refuse to engage with them. When someone calls you a freak, objectivity isn't going to convince them you're normal.
“We’re not who the joke is for, despite being who the joke is about” hits HARD
I remember Shapiro saying that the whole inspiration behind producing movies was to remove politics from them. As predicted, "removing politics" just meant "inserting politics we like and being about as subtle as a sledgehammer". They WANT to be what they think Hollywood is.
Also almost anything, even if unintentionally, political. Dr Seuss books, if you understand historical context, was political. Sonic the hedgehog in a vaguely simple way is political. You can't necessarily escape it. And it sometimes makes a film more interesting if done right.
lmfaaaaao, I guess ben shapiro is into contradicting himself publically and explicitely
@@tressonkaru7410 Yeah, the Sonic series, both in the games and in the expanded media (comics, anime, etc.) is very clearly anti-authoritarian in its messaging - you have a plucky blue hedgehog (and his various friends) going up against a mad scientist and an army of robot slaves bent on world domination.
Huh. Didn’t realize you were a Big Joel fan. Always took you for more of a conservative type.
Omg I love your videos
Sorry but the Rosanne joke "Mom, what is my gender?"
"Your gender is, get a job, that's your gender." got a full belly laugh out of me for the sheer ridiculousness of it. It's genuinely like a parody of what someone her age would say, it's incredible.
Same! With the right set up that joke is really funny
I laugh out loud and also use the super bad "my pronouns are..." jokes for the same reason.
And the irony is that she lost her job because of horrible jokes.
@@Spanishdog17 lol
"NO MORE BULLSHIT!"
regarding the movie, I just feel sorry for the girl playing the daughter. she seems genuinely pretty talented
My favorite conservative "joke" about trans people is the claim that "we can always tell". Meaning "we can always tell when someone is transgender".
At my most recent physical, my doctor's nurse asked me if I wanted my doctor to do my pap smear or wait for my gynecologist to do it. I said that I was a trans woman so I didn't need that, to which she said "OH! Sorry it says on your chart I should have looked". I said it was fine. She then walked out of the room and closed the door, and I could hear her say to another nurse "Well, that was embarrassing."
I was also asked by another nurse when my last period was in the pre-op room. For my vaginoplasty.
So if conservatives think that the "we can always tell" joke is funny, I fail to see the actual joke, since the claim is flat out not true.
Yo props for passing so well that you surprise medical professionals lol that's awesome
They gaslight themselves into believing that. And once a girl admits to being trans or someone else points it out to them, they will go “Ah, I knew it!“ the same way horoscope crazies go when someone says they are **insert random horoscope sign here** when actually these people couldn’t be more clueless.
It's a little bit creepy how they try to always "tell" when a person is trans. Like, why does that matter so much to them? They're bunch of creeps. Since they realize it's not fun to go after gay people anymore, they go after trans, mostly trans women. Trash human beings will always exist
coping and delusional as always, 99% of people can tell
I remember the one week freak out from transphobes accusing Henry Cavill of being trans. Fucking hilarious.
That punching scene in Lady Ballers pulls away the curtain so cleanly.
Finally a character attempts a sincere conversation, an intimate moment with a person coming out to a friend.
Only to be met with stone-faced contempt, disgust, and immediate violence.
Alex is not refuted by words or even laughter, no, only naked violence suffices to disprove her silly claim to womanhood.
All the jokes, all the lampooning and terrible satire, everything suddenly makes sense.
Ugly, cruel, violent, a cathartic moment in a conservative fantasy.
Congrats to Gary’s actor in that scene, it's the only one where he feels authentic.
Actually made me sick to my stomach.
Least dramatic joel fan:
Something something art should disturb the comfortable something something.
I know. I remember seeing parts of that scene before, and it broke my heart. Alex shares about her struggles, and her moment of finally feeling "right" when she went into drag. She was so sincere I expected the answer to be "oh okay, you're a real trans woman, I respect that" and for that moment to show that the filmmakers believe trans people exist, they just want to keep them out of sports. But Joel cut out quite a bit from that scene. He cut out Gary's rant about how Alex is just sick and misguided, and there's no way she's a woman. How trans women are just messed up or brainwashed. It shocked me how willing he was to say that to her face. Usually conservatives at least try to say something kind of compassionate towards what they deem as "real" trans people. Gary said the quiet part out loud.
I wish I could give the character Alex some hugs. She felt so real in a sea of satire.
@@olivercharles2930 so sorry you had to read new words Oliver. that must have been very upsetting for you
@SomeKidFromBritain sure just discomfort isn't enough to make something art
Conservative comedy isn't just conservative politically. It's conservative in the sense that they keep reusing the same few jokes and never move past them or get creative.
OOUGH! thats a good one.
They aren't known for their ability to think outside the box.
Your comment just proves the same about you lol
How does it do that?@@harrywrinklesach2057
@@harrywrinklesach2057 What does conservative 'comedy' consist of other than 'hur hur hur! people look funny and are stupid!'
The "irony" for LadyBallers is now that it's released, the WNBA is taking off thanks to Caitlin Clark
The only funny thing about lady ballers is the fact it is so transphobic, it ends up being misogynistic towards the very women they claim to be fighting for.
Ricky Gervais shouldn't say "that was irony" he should say "i think that was irony, allegedly" because it's just his opinion
"I found it to be irony."
He sucks so much sometimes when I need a laugh I like to watch that awkward interview where Garry Shandling is super mean to Gervais.
Ricky Gervais isn't beating the fascism allegations.
i don't even understand where he is saying the irony turns, like is his claim 'ahah actually there ARE funny women' because he doesn't like... develop that, or seem to think it
Him actually saying that would be funnier than his actual jokes
"We are being censored and silenced because everyone is a snowflake!" says the conservative comedian in a sold out venue for his 5th Netflix special.
It’s like… they’re all full of shyte.
‘I got punished for my abhorrent actions’
Punishment =\= canceling.
@@Unhingedanduninformedhuh? Cancelled = punishment
Yeah, he gets to get away with it because he's insanely popular and careful with it. He's talking for all comedians. Nothing wrong with that.
@@Unhingedanduninformed beong cancelled is a punishment me thinks. its just funny how these people frame being cancelled as anything other than people not liking them
@@zote8106 Being cancelled isn't a punishment because people have made "being cancelled" into people just saying they don't like them online. What happened to "not everyone is gonna like you/you can't please everyone"?
What is the problem with 15 minute cities? No one says you can't travel we just want to make things beautiful, clean and convenient
They make cars less necessary, and since these guys receive a lot of funding from oil magnates, that makes 15 minute cities bad
Gulags are 15-minute cities.
Conservatives need to fearmonger so naturally 15 minute cities mean you have no freedums
@@ffff7164 A Gulag is a Russian prison/labor camp. At that point you're just saying "place you walk to get around is bad". Damn, I guess Amusement Parks are Gulags as well. Or are Amusement Parks 15-minute cities? Suppose it's all the same to someone who is just parroting the talking point for an agenda being directly guided by oil magnates and motor vehicle companies rather than actually thinking about what they're saying.
As some one who doesn’t drive I’d love a walkable city
the bug-eating thing is a rare occasion when a conservative buzzword got copy-pasted from Europe to US, not the other way around. A while ago (around 1-1,5 years ago I think), there was this European directive that allowed selling flour made of bugs (more or less, I'm not an expert), which, of course, European conservatives started spinning as "EU IS GOING TO FORCE US ALL TO EAT BUGS". Kinda funny that it got transplanted to US without any context
I mean, there were plenty of mainstream articles about how bug eating was going to save the world. I don't think Americans are paying attention to European news like you suggest. Probably trailed off because the big thing turned out to be massively inefficient to the point of worthlessness. Leather Apron has a great video on the subject.
I think it’s also an offshoot of the incel soy thing on 4chan/ nazi Twitter? I remember seeing some reference to it when I was reading the wiki for “frogtwitter”
That kinda destroys any plausible deniability of “irony” in this comedy, it’s so niche and specific that the only people who would catch it are people who are terminally online in these political spaces
I don't want people saying "that food is flavorful," I want them saying "I found that food to be flavorful"
it's so interesting hearing him say that because he's literally representing the sensitive "snowflake" caricature that he jokes about but completely unironically. you're telling me that you're feelings are hurt over the way people are saying things? and you're calling other people "triggered"??
I found the 10 commandments to be moralful, except the ones that are god wanking himself off, the obvious ones about how society works, and the thought crime one
Meh, there kind of is a distinction between "this steak is bad" as in "you did not cook this steak correctly and objectively you did a bad job" and "this steak is bad" as in "I don't like how this steak tastes, subjectively". I'm aware that I'm focusing too much on the analogy, but that's something that I like to do.
@zoey2421 time and time again, conservatives prove that *they* are the delicate snowflakes they love to strawman and take down. It's hilarious.
@@Warsmith_Thebut that's not the analogy he made...
Saying “I’m gay” over and over again is still infinitely funnier than yet another alleged comedian crying about how there are too many genders.
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i think the reason saying "im gay" 120 times is funny js because of that rule that its funny the first time, and then it stops being funny, but then on the 5th time its funny again
@@squibble08 it gets exponentially funnier the longer it goes on
Hell, I’ve seen that exact thing be a punchline, and not even the setup for a joke.
In old editions of D&D, succubi literally take psychic damage, one point at a time, when they are rejected. You do the math
Hell yeah dude
Why is the 8 year old the best actor in ladyballers
"Bad in a deeply fascinating way" is the most hardcore insult I've ever heard
"when i left California i realized there was a lot of propaganda".... Proceeds to push conservative propaganda unironically.
A lot of propaganda like “treat other people with respect”. The absolute horror
@@lunarumbreon7699
You subhuman chimps don't respect anyone.
YA
YOU DO THAT
Dipshiticus Maximus
"But now I'm awake"
... I thought they hated woke people?
As long as you can see how both sides lie to us to push their agenda goals against the constitution and will of the people. There’s a reason the grift works so well. The little truth to it creates confirmation bias, but there is SOME truth. I miss real conservative values, not the BS culture war.
"your gender is get a job" and "father I cannot click the book" are the two most boomer statements
Boomer and Gen Xers, they exhaust me with their pathetic unispired attempt at comedy.
I feel like gen x jokes try to be more edgy like My pronouns are f** you or AR 15 but it gives off the same energy
"Father, I cannot click the gender", the ultimate boomer joke, the world is not ready for it yet.
"Sometimes I start to wonder that the real reason they call it artificial intelligence is because of how DUMB it is"
-Dr. Ron Paul
I think I just had an epiphany about conservative humor. The jokes aren't actually IN the act or the film. The jokes are in the mind of the conservative viewers as they imagine the responses of triggered liberals.
That punch scene from Lady Ballers really guts me. It's so cruel and mean-spirited.
The real predators are the ones who made that film, absolute creeps like Matt Walsh
“I’m a- uh- I’m a- uh. IM GAY GET OUT OF HERE”
“Okay sir I’ll go… fuck off then”
Cinematic masterpiece
Release the Gay Steamboat Willie cut
hazbin hotel if it wasn't mid
@@ianhoddinott9492 HWJKLGHRNESKJGNFJDKLSG PLSSSSS
@@cheeseguru1017 it is released tho
I can't wait for Joel to make this into a t-shirt.
That child actress in lady ballers has way better comedic timing than any of the grown ass professionals around her. Like that list of things boys are better at is a dumb joke but she actually delivered it with the correct cadence for the joke to work which is more than you can say for anyone else
Genuinely a talented kid, I hope she doesn't get indoctrinated. Was hard to watch her being given that cringe sexist speech.
i feel so bad for her.
I do wonder how she will feel a dozen or two years from now about her parents getting her to do this.
Would be hilarious if she turned out to trans years from now
I have to say her just, yelling about opening pickle jars did make me laugh.
All conservative comedy does this thing where they start with a premise and then just get mad and forget to do a punchline
I think people didn't laugh at Roseanne's Q is for quarantine bit because the conservative audience thought she was denying the theory. That it was actually just a bunch of bored and isolated people stewing all day in conspiracies as reality becomes harder and harder to understand. So at that point Roseanne was not part of group that came to her show, and maybe even ridiculing them.
Since Q was already going since 2017 by the time of COVID, it seems utterly non sequiteurial rather than some kind of Joker Arc she was trying there.
you know, for not caring about the environment, these conservatives sure do recycle their jokes a lot
edit: since this comment doesn't deserve to be top comment here, i'll just add something of mild value. at 1:26:22, the joke COULD have worked in another movie and with better timing, as a commentary about how no one watches women's sports. the way they made it is "women's sports bad because women bad at sports", because if they went with the obvious joke i described, they would have to confront the fact that maybe people are sexist and that would squander their point, because they will only ever care about women's sports as a vessel for transphobia.
Oh well that's easy, it's because recycling is a scam so they're all for it
Exactly, everyone knows recycling is a scam
On a meta-level, I find joy in the amount this specific joke has also been recycled
many conservatives care about the environment, they just don't like when the government tells them to care
@@petaflop. that seems to me something of a contradiction, given that deregulation has allowed growth-at-all-costs overproduction and overextraction to flourish and cause ecological harm across the planet
Ricky Gervais priding himself as an ultimate free speech advocate and then saying "you can't say that :'(" to someone calling anybody unfunny is the funniest thing he's ever said.
he used to be funny, but now he's just a spoiled out of touch millionaire who couldn't be relatable if he tried, so he cries about mostly made-up stuff while having disclaimers that "it's actually ironic" because he doesn't want his feelings to be hurt by people telling him he's not funny anymore. So many comedians went down the same path as him, completely lost in the conservative-reactionary sauce with nothing interesting to add to the same 2 jokes about cancel culture and trans people. It's so fucking sad
There's a certain weird ideology that wants comedians, specifically, as a group, to be elevated to a special status where they're allowed to say anything they want, but any criticism of them must be subject to strict rules to avoid making any comedian feel uncomfortable about any joke they might choose to make.
I mean, I think Ricky Gervais sucks as a standup, but he's clearly being sarcastic when he says that. It's the joke. He doesn't actually believe it.
@@roryschussler Ricky is so unfunny he caused the one time the American version of a show was better than the UK version.
That was my thought. Dude is whining about how we shouldn't hurt his feelings by even implying that he's unfunny and should alter our language to be more considerate... before turning around to whine about liberals forcing him to use "pronouns" for the millionth time. These people are so dense and tiresome.
this is truly scary. in 10-15 years Big Joel will stand at the rooftops, shouting how gay mickey is actually quite dangerous and disney shouldn't have made gay mickey. Something for us all to be wary of.
Imagine how much bigger he will be then too
@@fart63large joel
@@megan-mr9vk LARGEST joel
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The irony of Doug mocking the wall for comparing English education at the time to WW2 while comparing him getting cancelled on twitter to literal actual genocide and race clensing is fucking wild to me. Its hypocrisy on a different level. What were they thinking?
I think the most hilarious thing about conservative comedy, aside from Graham Linehan having trouble getting a job anymore, is that the Ricky Gervais Subreddit hates him.
i have spent quite a lot of time around people who are the new agey/energy crowd, and the reason why the dude went from new age spiritualist to hardcore conservative is because new age spiritualists are often way WAY more conservative than you'd expect. being anti-vax, anti-feminist, 'anti-woke' is super common in that culture.
oh weird, people who think they know all the answers by just believing the opposite of what most people think are morons.
I... used to be unsure as to how there was a lot of psycho-reactionary stuff from the new-age movements, until I read The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, which was a memoir of a commune of one of the big LSD movers-and-shakers back in the 60s. Then it became very obvious (to me) how it could be. They weren't progressive - just a bunch of hedonists who thought their hedonism made them better than others. Goodness knows that the mainstream culture of the U.S. in the 60s wasn't good, it obviously wasn't. But a big bit of the counter-culture wasn't civil right movements and the like, but just... well, druggies.
It might also be that new agey/energy people already have such a crazy and unreasonable understanding of the world that these other beliefs that deny (scientific) reality isnt a leap. Being conservative is comparatively grounded.
That's not what cognitive dissonance means. You're describing compartmentalism. Cognitive dissonance refers to feelings of discomfort when you actively and most importantly knowingly engage in actions and behaviour which contradict your beliefs and values. Simply holding multiple values or beliefs which contradict simultaneously is just compartmentalizing.
Exactly. The venn diagram of back to the earth, natural medicine, flowy skirt hippies and anti-vax, racial supremacist, "trad" conservatives is nearly a circle.
The scene with the daughter "wanting to be a man" is particularly funny in a... deeply disturbing way. Like my thought was "oh, they'll like have some ham-fisted 'women are good at some things and men are good at some things' moral message" but instead... like they just say men actually ARE better than women. Like, shit, in the world they present why wouldn't you want to be a man?
they follow it up with the "women are good at caring and being reasonable" line
With how conservatives talk about gender you'd think men were all superhuman roided out terminators and women are all just like the eraserhead baby dragging our bodies across the floor when in reality consistent, guaranteed sex differences just don't exist lol. There's tendencies, but nothing is guaranteed. If the reason trans women are banned from women's sports is because they're tall, what about cis women who are just as tall? Why don't we separate basketball teams by height instead of gender? What about cis men who wanna play basketball and are good at it but are stuck at a dead end because they're 5' 7"? Isn't that unfair to them? Why do we care so much about high school teams when for most people high school sports are entirely about making friends and having fun? The more you think about it the more obvious it is they just want to exclude the people they hate from public view. Before trans women it was lesbians everyone wanted to ban from bathrooms and sports. Time is a flat circle.
For comparison, a fun factoid I remember is that many sports have a relative age effect where people born in the first few months of the year are overrepresented because in youth leagues they're months older than their peers and as a kid that makes a huge difference. So they get more attention from coaches, enjoy their time more, and are more likely to continue the sport until they're old enough a few months doesn't make a difference. Sports are inherently unfair in about 10 billion ways, but we only care when it means we can exclude marginalized groups
@@Strauss-the girl was clearly the smartest, the most confident of them all and they didn't even giver her that
Without seeing the rest of the movie it's almost a Twilight Zone-esque cautionary tale twist: As she lists things we rack focus slowly back to Rod Serling to talk about how you played the system and the game and you won both. But in doing so you've proven to your child that men are better at the things your daughter wants to be. Now you have a gender-questioning child as your 'ironic prize.'
@@Strauss-but they dont even think women are more reasonable.
I was home-schooled, and I'm Omega Gay. Guess the conservatives are wrong again.
molested? too much internet access? what was it?
@@reinhardt3090lol thats rich coming from the neo nazi
This was the most earnest: conservatives, are you ok? I've ever witnessed
They are. They aren't watching this stuff. They're watching Shane Gillis. Elderly people always watch lame content. It's just that if Joel really got in touch with what is popular right now, he wouldn't have anything to dunk on. And he needs money just like you and me.
That scene at the end of the lady ballers movie is kinda genuinely heartbreaking. It's one thing when conservatives say we're only transitioning to have an excuse to "invade women's spaces" or make tired attack helicopter jokes. It's still awful, but it's easy to ignore since they're just wilfully misunderstanding. But that scene, it's a conservative saying they actually do understand. They hear what trans people say, that the entire point is just to feel happier in our own skins, that transitioning is a sincere expression of our authentic selves, not a lie or a trick for some nefarious purpose. And they still respond with violence. The cruelty really is the point, huh.
Except my understanding is that none of the lady ballers actually transition and have no intent on doing so is the point of the movie. In doing so the characters are leveraging the benefits of adopting the trans label disingenuously.
Honestly if the film was actually made to being a comedic look on gender identity in the American culture and not some right wing vehicle to production team own propaganda, Lady Ballers could have been a surprisingly insightful raunchy satire with a pro trans message.
If only the premise was given to an actual funny comedian who can do justice like Bill Burr and not a bunch of goobers from Daily Wire
I don't think they understand though.
From my experience, the way conservatives often argue is that they may at first genuinely try to reach a connection with you and reason with you. But if they fail to convince you to agree with them, then they reach the conclusion that you're either too stupid, too stubborn, too crazy, or a combination of these things to ever be reasoned with.
But instead of agreeing to disagree and going separate ways if they determine that continuing the discourse is pointless, they instead decide you must be punished. You must be punished for disagreeing with them, for denying objective reality and failing to comprehend (what they believe to be) such plain and simple truth, and for putting them through the frustration of trying to persuade someone who ultimately cannot be persuaded.
Once that happens, they decide you must suffer as a consequence. The degree of this vengeance and the extent to which they decide to lash out against you depends on the specific type of conservative and how radical they are. The less radical ones will just resort to ad hominem attacks and simply mock you where the joke is some variation of calling you stupid, crazy, etc. The more aggressive, unhinged, and/or radical ones get more violent and verbally express their desire for something awful to happen to you (ex. r*pe joke or telling you to unalive yourself), verbally express their desire to assault you, or make active threats against you (ex. death threat).
@@johnwalker1058 So basically like a rival fraternity on Hell Week intending to haze the SHIT out of freshmen who dare pledges at the opposing fraternity just to make sure they failed getting in for shits and giggles.
Maybe I am projecting too much of my experience here. Fucking Sigmas.
@@SurmaSampo But that woman in the scene where she is punched in the balls was sincerely expressing gender dysphoria so no.
Conservative comedy is like Christian rock. Christians can make good rock, but the moment you turn it into a defined genre chasing a Christian audience the message becomes more important than the medium and the music usually sucks. To bring it back to King of the Hill, lets paraphrase Hank: "You're not making conservatism better, you're just making comedy worse".
Leftist commedy is talking about their periods. Why can't the left meme? We may never know.
Anyone who thinks Hannah Gadsby or the comedians in her new special are funny, needs their head checked.
Hank Hill could be pretty based when he wanted to
@@oswaldmosley5012 anyone who uses the word meme as a verb has no right to decide what is and isn't funny
Yes. Its not about removing God or spirituality from music, its about not crowbaring it in to force it to fit.
There's a British radio show called 'Thought For The Day' where they invite on the Bishop Of Bottomley-cum-Hyde to try and force a religious message out of whatever's in the news today. Bands who primarily identify as Christian Rock are that with a soundtrack.
As a gay kid I was always painfully aware that Southpark (and others) were making people like me the butt of the joke. Yet my friends would continually push this comedy and tell me how funny they thought it was, ask me why I didn't find it as funny as them. The answer was simple, they were laughing at my expense. But in my childhood and adolescence it did not feel safe to express that. As an adult it made me perhaps more distanced from society, I don't want to participate in the group that produces this and that laughs at my expense and makes people like me feel unsafe.
If I had to go out on limb I'd say that, based on your comment, your friends laughed at you because you're insufferable, not because you like men.
@jthen8454 nice head cannon lonely dork.
@@jthen8454average gaslighting conservative response lol
Thats how all dark humour works, white people make everyone else the butt of the jokes to the point of harassment and get mad and gaslight you when you tell them to relax a bit
Yea South Park likes to pretend that they make fun of everyone so it's ok, but the agenda is pretty one-sided and shallow.
“what if conservatives ran the schools?” as someone from oklahoma, i can guarantee that they are
Have you been in a school lately?
@@Pistonrager a trans teen was beaten to death at a high school half an hour from where i grew up and the district attorney decided this was 100% legal.
@@metoposaur i do not believe you in the slightest.
The funny part about Lady Ballers is that a lot of their transphobic jokes just rounds around to just being sexist against cis women lmao
nothing new there, most transphobia boils down to misogyny
That's why conservative comedy isn't funny - it just attacks minorities and vulnerable people, always punching down, trying to make us believe that rich white men are the victims. No authenticity.
69th like :)
Transphobia and sexism are closely related. They believe that men and women are different on the most basic level. That's why men can't "become" women. Even if a trans woman never went through male puberty thanks to blockers, even if she was on hormons since 18 - she would always be male
After all if they admitted that men and women are not so different from each other then their sexist views would be irrational
Men just hate women in general for not naturally liking being enslaved.
Sorry........ did the "men are better at everything" girl from Lady Ballers say that men are better at *checks notes* ROCK AND ROLL???
Uhhhhhh, why are more people not talking about this? As a lifelong rock guy, I am LITERALLY TRIGGERED over how flagrantly wrong that statement is.
That whole Rosanne Barr section was just a little bit haunting honestly. It has me wondering what mistakes I'll make when I get older, who I might end up hurting or failing out of a lack of understanding.
'you make jokes that would have ted cruz dying from laughter' is about the meanest thing you could say to a comedian. Great job
Crazy thing is, notice how conservative comedians tend to resent when you call them conservatives
I think it's because they want to be seen as transgressive, and when you call them conservative it tells them that they're beliefs are closer to their parents rather than anything actually transgressive.
It's a compliment to call them comedians
@@Gorbgorbenson the word “trans” is in “transgressive” so they probably hate being called that too
@rasengdori13 I was going to comment on that, but probably. Progressive wouldnt work either. Maybe they just dont want to be called anything.
Its because in their minds the things they say aren't "conservative" they're just "normal" and all of the other comedians are just radical left wing libs.
insane to me that ricky gervais says shit like "don't say that joke was offensive say you found it offensive" like i thought policing language like that was for sensitive snowflakes? how does he not hear that?
It's because he seems to have a complex about feeling or seeming like he is smarter than those around him. And when he is smarter than everyone else the rules he applies to others don't need to function around him
You understand he isn't advocating for you losing your job if you say "it isn't funny" though right?
conservative comedy "making up a fake person to be angry about"
The part where the girl was saying how all the boys are better is funny because it exposes the contradictions in conservative ideology. The conservative father doesn't want his daughter to be a boy, but then the daughter explains she wants to be a boy because of conservative beliefs about women.
I was thinking something similar
reminds me of TERFs saying "trans men only want to transition to escape misogyny!!" nd then proceeding to be the most misogynistic group of mostly-women you could possibly imagine
It's not enough that they succeed. Others must fail for them to be satisfied.
Also, as a FtM, many cisgender men are genuinely defensive af about what they see as 'just for men'. They think me being in a men's restroom is emasculating for them.
I used to think I was transgender before I realized I was more so just insecure about what society told me "being a woman" was when I was a kid. I didn't want to be a girl I didn't feel like a girl because I knew I didnt want to be treated the way I saw girls and women portrayed in the media I had as a kid.
@@bumblehoney7206 Gender Euphoria is critical to realising if you're trans or not if you're AFAB. It would have been impossible for me to figure out I'm FtM without having had played male characters in stories and video games, and feeling very joyous to be treated as masculine. Wanting to be a man and wanting to stop experiencing misogyny can be so hard to differentiate from each other even when you have both feelings.
I'm years on HRT and honestly envy women in some ways. There's so, so many things about femininity and womanhood that's worth admiring and celebrating.
My favourite fact about lady ballers is that the original idea was to make a documentary where a bunch of conservative influencers make a real life basketball team and then join a women’s league to show how easy it is for men to fake being trans to win in women’s sports. But then they found out that they’d all have to take HRT for a year before they could play in the women’s league and understandably they couldn’t find any men willing to do that. Ben Shapiro literally tells this story in an interview as if it doesn’t undermine the entire conservative trans sport talking point and the movie they ended up making
you miss the point, that team, had they been willing to take the drugs for 1 year, would have stomped the other teams.
@Unknown no, the point of the doc was to show men are faking being trans to join women teams. But they found no men willing to do it.
@@UnknowntyperOk but you see how the thing you and Ben Shapiro are suggesting is the natural outcome is a future hypothetical that can not be proved because he was literally unable to find a group of men willing to go through the necessary condition to prove it and the thing Joel and the original poster are saying is based on the reality of that failed experiment right? If you're that concerned about fairness divide all sports by these natural advantages you say ALL men have instead of by gender and you should still get the exact same result you and Ben want (men and women will all be naturally separated into the appropriate groups with no overlap) and you'll even shut up all the critiques by proving your point.
@@Unknowntyperok I keep seeing people say this, but where’s the evidence? Why aren’t all women’s sports dominated by trans women?
@@Unknowntyper hrt doesn't involve drugs at all. Hormones aren't classified as drugs 😂😂😂
plot twist, JP isn't actually a conservative it's just the longest parody he's ever made.
It really seems that way, it’s either grifting or a parody
"The joke is now supporting most of my life"
I'm autistic, I actually find a lot of American comedy really difficult to watch because so much of it IS about mocking the socially incompetent. I'm also Australian, and like, the rampant tall poppy syndrome isn't great but at least it means that a lot of the cultural comedic emphasis is making fun of yourself and yours, instead of using comedy to mark yourself as better than the freaks.
important to note that Australian comedy also isn't funny
It's such a gift to be told Lady Ballers was supposed to be a documentary, but was stymied by the fact the entire point of the satire doesn't reflect reality.
And then they went ahead and tried to make the satire anyway.
I had no idea of this hilarious and telling fact. Thank you Huge Joel.
They weren't allowed to join the league because they're not transgender. Not because the league don't allow transgenders.
@@limemason it was specifically that it turns out most leagues actually have requirements (e.g. being on over two years of hrt, which affects things like metabolism, muscle distribution, etc) which no one was willing to do for a dumb daily wire video, and that cis guys can't just walk up and say 'i identify as a woman' and immediately get to play, which was the core thesis of their movie.
@@taylor6528That just proves the Daily Wire crew can't commit to the bit, they can't go the mile to save America. 😤😤😤
@@thebigdork8030 Just once I'd like a transphobe to prove how it's "easy" to transition, by transitioning.
And then Ben Shapiro is sharing this information as if it’s the funniest thing ever and it’s affirming his beliefs
Imagine wanting to make a propaganda documentary but after learning the premise does not comport to reality, the film is made as a fiction instead.
Amazing stuff.
In a meta sense, this would actually be an interesting comedy premise.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
Absolutely nasty work
"Taking a moment of silence for all the workers exploited by capitalism" based teacher tbh
the most telling thing is ben shapiro's slip saying "they dont allow ACTUAL men to join a womens basket ball league" which shows that, at least in some capacity, he does think that trans women aren't men. there's got to be some small part of him that knows that he's been lying and talking out of his ass the entire time
Ben Shapiro is one of those rage vultures who doesn’t really believe most of the things he says. His career is built off satisfying the most extreme & radical people he can, because those people have a mob mentality and will give him a lot more money and notoriety. But like other political influencers like piers morgan for example, he most likely doesn’t really care about what he’s saying 99% of the time
@@lunarrover4923yeah he’s a shill. If you watched him pre-2016, he talked so much shit about Trump and his campaign. But then he fell into the MAGA fold because of good ol- peer pressure (and an opportunity to grow his own brand).
I don't know. A lot of conservative trans rhetoric revolves around treating trans people as facisimiles attempting to be something they're not and becoming nothing in the process. A common anti trans shitpost on 4chan for instance was "your dad lost a son and didn't gain a daughter".
I feel like so much of the comedic framing of these jokes is "You're so mad. i'm not mad. here's my 90 minute bit about how not mad I am, i have a lot to say about how totally not mad I am"
Also afraid, definitely not afraid of the world changing around them and the people no longer being satisfied with being forced into very specific societal standards and expectations.
this is it, this is the energy
@@spOOkytimesit’s because they’re being forced into strict societal boxes and new norms that are antithetical to their lived experience. That’s why it should be live and let live. The irony is staggering, but that’s reality.😂
@@andrewlaco1776 i mean people in the 1960s were pretty mad when black people were allowed to attend white schools and be in white spaces because it was antithetical to their lived experience (feeling superior to another race). people having to confront that other people exist is a good thing, and the generations who are mad about it will eventually die and everyone else will normalize to it. so it goes, so it goes
@@andrewlaco1776 Some awfully pretentious talk from somebody who can’t even manage to properly center their profile picture :^)
a lot of these "comedians" matching up to Will Menaker's adage that the problem with "conservative comedy" is "all their bits involve inventing a premise and then getting way too mad at it to tell a joke"
Holy shit that's good
You mean the Tankie Rich kid from the “Leftist dirtbag” podcast?
This would explain why they love Trump so much. Maybe they figure if they can be just as vapid and incompetent it will make them invincible to criticism. If you're a self-satire, what is there left to satirize?
That's pretty accurate, because even when they tell "jokes" they're pretty much always just stating a concept they find ridiculous and expecting people to laugh at the idea, the concept, rather than making a joke out of it at all. "Aren't pronouns crazy?" "omg gay right?" "Disabled characters and POC on tv so much now!" That's all they've got. No jokes, just bringing up ideas they find weird and laughing in theory. It's kinda like when they fearmonger on the news about things they suspect democrats are doing (that democrats aren't doing at all) but the things sound awesome to us and we're baffled what they're upset about.
It's insane how toilet humor has more creativity and effort than conservative humor
Just want to say how much I appreciate this channel. Watching your old videos makes me realize how many things come across as “logical” on a first read but when broken down have major flaws. You’ve made me question the previously unquestionable and I think I’m a better person for it. Keep up the amazing work!
One of the most infuriatingly ironic things about NC's review of The Wall is how he chides the movie for having childishly obvious metaphors, but then goes on to completely misinterpret what those metaphors meant
The lesson of Doug's... Thing he did regarding The Wall (calling it a "review" feels incorrect) is that while there may not be any invalid interpretation of art, there are certainly bad interpretations.
I genuinely believe that was Doug engaging with the work as best as he could in the space he was in at the time. It just happened to reveal all the most disconnected and childish parts of himself.
True but the wall is still godawful…
@@bingobongo1615 lol
@@Plain--Jane Ultimately, Waters is a reflexive antisemite and Putin ally. In the Wall, he's comparing Thatcherism with Hitlerism to ask if the war was even worth it. As if there can be no justification for *any* conflict and "who really cares about the Holocaust anyway" etc.
@@bingobongo1615 Like all of it? Do you watch "goodbye blue skies" and feel that this part is bad?
The most annoying thing about Lady Ballers is that any college women’s basketball team would smoke them. None of those guys look in particularly good shape and like half of them are well under 6 foot.
Yeah well the movie isn't exactly interested in celebrating women's sports, despite supposedly defending it
@@YadonTheCat its just like the real arguments. Thr conservatives who "care deeply" for the sake of womens sports are usually misogynists who couldn't give less of a shite. It's just an excuse to shit on trans people "acceptably".
They couldn't even be a good towel boy for any women's basketball team.
Isnt that kind of the point though. They are specifically meant just to compete against women's basketball teams. I find it hard to believe thst untrained unfit men could defeat a professional women's basketball team, but the entire point of the movie is that they don't have to compete against male basketball teams
@@user-vg9dl2hp6iA college team would still smoke them in reality. You don't get to participate in a college team without showing promise. Those guys? They didn't just show no promise, they were absolutely unfit for the sport they were supposedly participating in.
it’s actually so upsetting that we live in a world where “jeremy boring and the daily wire” is the name of a group of shitty unfunny transphobes and not the name of the worlds greatest indie math rock trio
similarly, “ladyballers” should’ve been the name of a sick riot punk band frontmanned by a socioanarchist butch lesbian from outer atlanta. ben shapiro has ruined our timeline
It's increasingly funny looking back on Team America because it shows liberals teaming up with North Korea, as a joke... And then Donald Trump as a president was like "Oh yeah, Kim Jong, dictator? Great guy."
Damn, Roseanne did not give a damn if you laughed. Those bits felt like she was just venting out her grievances and if you laugh, whoopee good for you, now shut up and keep listening to me tell you how the world is shit.
I feel like that's a lot of conservative "comedy" in a nutshell though. They just vent and grieve about how things are not the way they think they should be. If you happen to agree, you might find it funny, but if not, then it's just awkward. That would explain why other conservatives find conservative "comedy" funny, but anyone else just suffers through something extremely cringey.
Honestly I kinda feel bad for her. The final chapter of her life and career is ending on an evil ideology taking advantage of her declining mental health. We need rehabilitation centers that focus on conservatism and I’m not kidding.
This is my takeaway too, growing up in the 80s she was one of the first female actors who really made me crack up, I loved the original Rosanne show. And like with anyone who (at the time,) brought joy to the world and made it more fun to be a part of, I just wish she had seen continued success, happiness and health.@@rasengdori13
It was pretty depressing, because _no one_ laughed. They might have cheered in agreement with some of it but there was no actual laughing.
@@thylacoleonkennedy7 which is so tragic, because a lot of those similar grievances and jokes (at least those that Bug Joel showed here) might've landed pretty well with a millennial leftist trans-positive audience.
"Your gender is, get a job!" got a real belly laugh outta my jobless nonbinary self
Lady Ballers was a rare gem of a movie where the entire cast and crew are actually the butt of the joke, without realizing it in the slightest. Glorious ignorance
Unfortunately that joke is also just really painful to watch......
Perfect description
And it didn't even support women, despite conservatives claiming to be pro-womens sports with their anti-trans agenda.
@@Sonichero151Especially with how bad the acting is.
Though that adds to the hilarity if you know anything about the people who made it and are in it.
The vast majority of the people at the Daily Wire are people who failed to get into Hollywood or washed out of it.
I find it way more fascinating that they started off with the premise of “we’re going to show these transes” but instead the overwhelming misogyny took over and they ended up mostly shitting on women and women’s sport.
Ah yes, the good ol new age spirituality to right wing pipeline. I’ve seen many people fall into that. People just want to latch onto something that makes them feel “enlightened” in some way. He says he’s thinking for himself yet fully immerses himself into group think communities.
Alex Jones was obsessed with the bug-eating thing in like 2017. I think it's a Great Reset conspiracy thing
still is, it's an easy american right wing thing to point at and be weird. it's not even consistent with his dont trust anyone and protect your family in case a nuclear war happens marketing of some years ago cus in that case, you'd think bugs is a great self-sufficient source of protein out in the woods
Honestly someone just saying “I’m gay” over a classic piece of animation is funnier than anything modern conservatives can come up with. Modern conservative comedy is just saying that everything is fine the way it is and those that disagree are bad and then they say a slur I guess.
unironically true
yeah i mean steamboat willie was really throwing it back in that cartoon… there’s actually something there
Strawman.
Calling stuff gay is the cumtown recipe for comedy.
@@SomeKidFromBritainyou don't know what a stawman is
King Of The Hill is an excellent example of what conservative comedy could be. Hank is an old fashioned man in a fast changing world (the starting premise of every conservative sitcom ever) and each episode his conservative beliefs will be tested. Often times he will be proven wrong and have to change a little bit. But almost as often, he will be proven right. And the show always respects who he is and what he believes in, while putting extremist right wing ideology firmly in its place. But somewhere in the last 20 years conservative ideology swung so far right it stopped being funny anymore.
In a weird way, I'd say American conservatives have trouble making conservative art, nowadays. It always devolve in some all out attack on strawmen that no one even recognize. So we now have progressives doing "conservative" shows, like Fargo, featuring honest god-fearing republicans, because if a conservative made it, our heroes would be harassing minorities for the kicks of it.
I'm honestly wondering how that reboot will work given this. How does someone like Hank Hill survive in a world where he simply can't be conservative enough?
King of the Hill was made by a progressive/lib though. He tried to do a version teasing progressives but it never got past the pilot. It doesn’t reinforce conservative values or idealogy; it mocks them from a place of knowledge but doesn’t embrace them at all.
@@mommalion7028 Co-creator Greg Daniels is a libertarian and you can see a lot of his influence on the show. The episode I was thinking about was the one where Hank's workplace can't fire a drug addict because government legislation says he has a disability. It's the kind of story that today's anti-DEI republicans would love. And there are plenty of episodes (such as the ones about religion - the mega church, Christian rock, the Halloween hell house - all things that were to the right of traditional conservatism then, but where the Republicans find themselves now) where the episode comes down on the side that Hank is right, he shouldn't have to change and it's the world around him that's gone too far. The plot to every Fox News broadcast ever.
@@davidmylchreest3306just to clarify your comment: the mega church, halloween hell house, etc. were "Hank vs. Extreme Conservatives", not hank being an extreme conservative himself. But otherwise yeah. I vividly remember him being outraged about an x-ray of his steak-filled colon being displayed in an art museum without his permission and him leveraging a texas law against people 'defaming the beef industry' to have the cops take it down -- and the episode framed the artists as 'out-of-touch city liberals'. Hank's always been vaguely conservative but also almost entirely apolitical. Today, he would almost definitely consider himself a "Moderate". Especially because of Bobby's weirdness expanding his worldview over the show's run.
What is odd is that JP Sears being a mean teacher telling the student persona "your mom probably had 5 abortions and your lucky you weren't one of them." I mean.... Is that actually a dunk? If your mom didn't abort you then she either couldn't it didn't wish to. Assuming his mom doesn't hate him, thank goodness she had 5 abortions before she was ready to have her first child.
“We all led a moment of silence for the workers exploited under the capitalist system” - And why is this bad exactly? Who are the people mad about this stuff, business owners? The rich? Most people are workers…
Considering DW is a group of failed actors turned millionaire propagandists who are directly funded by oil billionaires. They have a great reason to despise workers
Roseanne screaming “We ruined our children’s lives!” to a silent crowd is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen, but I don’t think in the way she intended it.
The worst thing about conservative 'comedy' is how heavy handed it is. The 'jokes' are always over-explained, hamfisted trash, obvious and spelled out to 'trigger the libs' who aren't even watching such trash to begin with.
Big Joel remembers Lady Ballers so we don't have to.
they’re never even new over-explained hamfisted trash, it’s the same shit theyve been saying for 30 years now over and over again. Especially transphobes, they truly have One Joke.
that's just political "humor" in general, they're often worried you'll miss 0.1% of their message so they beat you over the head with it with all the tact and subtlety of a toddler cramming a square box through a round hole on their toy with the grown up hammer they grabbed out of the closet when you werent looking.
This is an interesting take since it's been one of the main criticisms I've heard of "liberal jokes" for nearly a decade now. How it just over explains itself with hamfisted trash clearly just pushing an agenda to people who don't watch that type of stuff anyway. The most recent example I can think of is how there were complaints in the new Doctor Who being too "liberal" with the revised David Tennant being mocked for being a man now compared to superior female predecessor (who was given terrible scripts and therefore had a bad run), used gender on an alien and had to apologise after being told by his new female sidekick who he then congratulates for correcting him on his improper gender, and changed the race of Isaac Newton with the Doctor talking about how attractive Isaac Newton looked and made a point of whether or not he's gay now. None of these points ever progress the plot or characters after that point and they're not really entertaining either so it just sticks out like a nail in a pillowcase.
Maybe it's more accurate to say that BAD comedy over explains itself with hamfisted trash for a non-existent audience, and the political alignment of the people making it just codes it in specific jokes. Statistically there's always going to be bad comedy writers on both sides of the political spectrum and statistically speaking there will be those that laugh at comedy regardless of quality if it aligns with their views. Framing the quality of a single piece of writing or media as a reflection of the ideologies behind it is a reductive view.
It's like a mirror with "Lady Ballers" where the movie depicts an hyperbolic idea to conservatives of what all liberals do just as it also makes a hyperbolic idea to liberals of what all conservatives believe despite it being a movie that I've heard no one talk about outside of this video. Sorry for the long reply.
@@BrickBreakerXX i think that's just a hallmark with most political "humor". It's not universally terrible but 90% of the time it's hamfisted.
I work in a very conservative industry in a company full of conservatives but live in an area that's overwhelmingly liberal and when it comes to social media i spend a lot of time on more left leaning sites like imgur and reddit. I see a lot of the same, sometimes nearly identical memes and jokes used by both groups and i always find it hilarious because they'll admit the jokes are heavy handed when its the other side making the same joke but happily join the circlejerk when the "humor" aligns with their biases. Like I've seen a million jokes, memes, and pictures all making it seem like Biden wears diapers and liberals will say those jokes are in bad taste, they're purile and immature, that he's not so old he needs diapers and the pictures arent conclusive, and that even if he does wear diapers that it's a medical thing and you shouldnt mock people for medical issues they cant control... then those some people will show pictures of Trump that make it look like he wears diapers and mock him for it while the Trump fans jump to his defense using the same exact claims.
Political humor is hard to do well but people are often willing to overlook terrible quality so long as it aligns with their biases. Between that and many people writing political humor being afraid that you might miss their message, not get the joke, or misunderstand their point that they decide t make it as obvious as possible by beating you over the head with it.
@@arthas640 I think what frustrates me about conservative 'comedies' like Lady Ballers here is that *the jokes are not even jokes.* To call this movie hamfisted would be a compliment. The intent of Lady Ballers wasn't to trigger any leftists, since they wouldn't be watching it outside of reviews like this. Rather it strokes its own choir's collective knob via a cavalcade of conservative culture-war talking points poorly disguised as jokes. It's low-grade conservative copium. The people who watch this film in earnest already think trans people are freaks who are after their kids. There are bad kinds of political humor of all shades. The other dude mentioned Doctor Who. I don't count woke pandering by massive corporations as 'political humor' but that's just me.
I feel bad that they made a little girl say that men are better at everything. It is so fucking sad and very bad parenting
To be fair to Ricky Gervais, he has a vested interest in people not being able to say he's not funny.
My understanding of conservative comedy has always been that they don't need to tell a joke, because as far as they know, the joke is just the existence of things they don't like. They can just say "oh how about TRANS PEOPLE, AM I RIGHT?" and get a big laugh from their audience because trans people existing is the joke to them. There's no need to muddle the issue by adding in any level of creativity, they just point at people they find inherently humorous and laugh at them.
So literal middle school bullying? Wonder how Ricky would make that sound more intelligent 😅
It's the same group who make compilations of disabled people and mock them for being "cringe". They laugh because they have zero comprehension and clinging to the beliefs you were raised with is much less painful than admitting you've been wrong for any portion of your life.
One thing that makes a lot of Conservative Comedy hard is how do you parody that which is already extreme
Some people GENUINELY believe you can change your gender, race, and even species….where do you go from there? The “I’m a toaster” joke from high school?
What about abortion? You can’t really get more extreme than murder can you…
The list goes on
It’s also why Conservatives find it funny when they are the ones called “extreme”
You’re right. The joke itself is how the left is SO extreme everything they do is something that people from a decade ago parodied as being ridiculous
And now it’s gotten to the point that how could anything get more extreme?
@@gabrielsalahi3656Only a con could consider knowing the definition of words and basic science facts as extreme views. Other extreme views the left has: 2+2=4! World is round! Forest Fires are not started by space lasers! Vaccines are safe and effective. Oh the horrors of their extremism!
That's a really good point
Ben is like "yeah as it turns out it's basically impossible for cis men to pretend to be trans women and play in women's sports but here's a movie about that anyway"
How is it impossible?
@@spenser9908 Because Shapiro literally said they couldn’t do it because they’d have to medically transition. Assuming you aren’t being pedantic about the word “impossible” because that would be silly.
the film's premise is that it's a joke. hope that helps!
@@blank4227 you are saying that there is no problem in women’s sport. The conservatives made it up as a joke. 🏳️⚧️let’s go
@@blank4227The film’s premise is to scaremonger about trans women in sports. This is something Ben talks about as not a joke but a real thing, which is why he wanted to try it as a doc. This is literally what Joel talked about, hiding behind “it’s a joke” when people point out how ridiculous your idea of the world is
Being conservative is largely about protecting convenience.
Whatever is convenient in your life, whether it be literal or abstract, you should defend that,
even if it means you don't know what you're doing or know what you're talking about.
It doesn't matter if you succeed or if you lost everything, you defended yourself, and that is something that can't be taken away.
Except those damn liberals are trying to take that away, just like they took my job!
Job is spelled jerb
Being progressive is largely about pursuing progress regardless of what it is driving towards. When there is a healthy relationship between the two, it is a productive relationship which seems out new things and conserves those things which are worth keeping. This video has essentially no purpose beyond exposing the most embarrassing aspects of the other side as though they were actually representative. All of the conservatives I know would be embarrassed by this content he covered. And none of them would ever watch it. They are watching Shane Gillis because they have honestly become disengaged from political discourse ever since they realized their opponents are basically in it for pure pleasure. This video is purely for pleasure and I find the veil of intellectualism dishonest and embarrassing. Try and exact a point from this video. Or even a through line. It's unfocused and masturbatory. This whole discourse died a while ago.
I think that the conservative crowd think they are way more edgy and "triggering" than any of their targets actually find them to be. In my experience, the most triggering experiences are unexpected and/or forced upon you in some way. But since everybody knows what they're about (they literally declare that their goal is to trigger people), and most of their intended targets don't watch their stuff because we know what it's about, it's not surprising or shocking. It mostly comes off like listening to a 1st grader tell you the one joke they know for the 748th time.
In the teacher sketch I'm actually kinda shocked at the multiple levels of unintended irony or whatever you can even describe it as, when the teacher sees that their constant ranting and belittling of the kid's parents has made the kid cry and then doubles down on the bullying by saying that their own weakness isn't even the fault of their parents but their own. That's like so many levels of fucked up, I can't even...
The funniest part of that bit was that guy admitting that is powerfantasy is berating a child by speculating what sex acts that kid's parents engage in. Publicly humiliating a child by screaming about sex. Definitely not groomer behavior
If a teacher said that to my kids, I’d be fucking incensed. That spiel was tantamount to sexual harassment. I honestly can say I would have no idea what I would do in that situation as a parent to that child.
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@@sillyspider where MAKING THIS HAPEN
Wow- it’s almost like- that’s the joke
Besides the fact that Doug tried to compare naziism to "cancel culture", the shittiest part about that stupid The Wall parody is that Roger Waters, the writer of the original album, lost his father to WW2.
Did the guy even know The Wall was originally an album? He even calls one of the songs "oscar bait" 🙄
EDIT: Also worth noting, Doug mocks Waters in the "review" because a part of The Wall is about the bullying he went through at school, both from students and teachers, saying he should "grow a pair." Keep in mind, school in the '50s and '60s were sure as hell not like they were in the '80s and '90s.
It's not even just that he lost his father, the Wall is largely autobiographical, even if not in an entirely literal sense. It's Waters sharing his most personal experiences, laying himself bear because that's the only way he can find to get across his message, and he genuinely feels his message is so important it's worth it.
And that message, of course, is that his father laid down his life and ruined their family for fascism, and now Waters can't even say the sacrifice was maybe worth it because he's seeing the world fall back into it.
Waters went "I am terrified for us all" and Doug told him to, quote, "grow a pair".
@trianglemoebius Well put. The guy even tries to call the review "a love letter to Pink Floyd". Yet he treats it like a dead rat left on his doorstep.
I get why some people dislike The Wall. But man, that "review" was disrespectful as hell, and it felt like he purposefully misunderstood the point.
Folding Ideas video on that whole thing is great
I first saw The Wall when I was 12, and even I could see, and understand, the subtext. And it genuinely moved me, I'd say it was one of those movies that changed my life (or it at least gave me a new appreciation for history that I still have today). Doug Walker is a tool.
He couldn't even tell the difference between primary school and high school. The bar is below the frost line.
If anything triggered me in Ladyballers it was how not funny it was… like, it really made me angry. It was just the same jokes conservatives always make so it was more boring than offensive and it came off lazy. The way Shapiro bragged about it you’d think it’d be almost traumatizing.
Ricky Gervais really pulled the “You need to have a higher IQ to get ‘Rick and Morty’” BS before Rick and Morty.