YMS: The Lion King (Part 1)
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*smooch
great video as always keep it up
Good job!
the people at 19:29 are so stupid
Hell yea
I took a class at Disney World last year learning to draw Simba, halfway through the artist said “we add eyebrows to our animal characters to make them more expressive…can you imagine if we made The Lion King with realistic animals that couldn’t emote or express? that would be crazy!” the saltiness from hand-drawn animators is unmatched
I would like to shake that animator’s hand
Man, that sounds like an awesome class. Kind of jealous you got to do that, especially with a hand-drawn animator teaching it. I miss hand-drawn stuff so much.
Thats an old joke, that we get more emotional cues from animals like dogs that can use their "eyebrows" and so we can infer emotions.
I didn’t know they still did that class? Props to them!
Amazing that an employee could get away with calling the remake out at Disney World of all places.
"We had to remake it for the new generation."
Is there some reason kids can't just watch the original?
Jon: Restoration to Pride Rock.
Money.
@@chupathingy5862 we've reach that point in late stage capitalism where making as much profit as possible supercedes any sort of artistic integrity.
but it's not as advanced with dah CGI woah kjskjfdksfj
@@fawnieee I'm also 12
Zazu in the remake is "oh it's Jon Oliver"
Zazu in the original is "That's Rowan Atkinson?!?"
Oliver pretty much ripped his own performance apart on an episode of Last Week Tonight.
@@idongesitusen5764kinda based
I recognized Rowan Atkinson’s voice instantly in the original, but that is because I *love* Blackadder.
@@pvzgamer6029
Not really, a lot of people use self-deprecating humor as a cheap tactic to endear themselves to others or dodge criticism. It's false humility, nothing genuine about it. I'd much prefer if he was genuinely remorseful about his bad performance or openly confident in it, as long as it's honest.
zazu in the remake: "never heard of this guy but he is annoying and unfunny"
zazu in the original: "holy crap it IS atkinson no wonder the performance is so good"
“Oh no, fascism is bad! So we cannot use fascism imagery alongside our VILLAINS, because fascism is bad, and we cannot have our BAD GUYS associated with FASCISM, because FASCISM IS BAD.”
- Disney, for some reason.
@@ricksimon9867 2019 Scar is totally different; he’s boring and uninteresting. So yeah, he does fit the rest of the movie 😂
@@ricksimon9867 I don’t know if that was his intention, but it’s certainly what he accomplished.
@@ricksimon9867It was based on Nazi rhetoric…so you either have never actually watched the original Lion King, or know nothing about Fascism…
@@ricksimon9867 The entire theme…repeated lines about how the injustice will be squared once they violently take power, about decades of denial. Basically, scrub his insults towards the hyenas and swap his talk of becoming king for leader, and you get Hitler’s speech hi-lights. That was *why* they went for the Nazi inspired imagery during the animation of the song…the hyenas are Scars Browncoats, criminal scum geared to help him violently take power.
The hyenas goose-stepping is probably too strongly associated with that scene I guess @@ricksimon9867
Jon wanted to make a realistic movie about lions but here's my question... why can't I see their balls then? If it's supposed to be realistic JON.
💀 💀 💀
This is for the porn knock-off, "This is not the Lion King (2019): XXX". Disney "might" still have some standards.
Nah that's for the 100 times worse Asylum knockoff with CGI that will make Rapsittie Street Kids look amazing in comparison.
i didnt see their anuses. i think realism has been sacrificed there as well
This should be the pinned comment haha
Proof that the remake is souless - - - My wife is a teacher and she told the 1st graders they were going to watch the Lion King, the animated one. A bunch of kids were upset, since they saw the 2019 in theatres and didn't like it. So why should they like the animated? 95% had never seen it. By the end of the animated movie, the kids were in awe. Several had tears in their eyes, they all loved it! The 90s movies hold up, keep giving kids the chance to feel that wonder and awe again.
This is a weird perspective to think about. Imagine knowing a movie for its bad CGI version and then growing up to find out about the older, more colorful, more animated version that still functions as a complete and better movie.
@@safabekrI think there are quite a few movies that people don’t know are remakes, though most of them are live action. Also many movies based on books that aren’t good but then you go and read the book and think “oooh I see why people didn’t like the movie”
That’s how I felt with Home 2015
@@GippyHappy Oh definitely. That was me with the The Black Cauldron. This comment just put me in the specific mindset of a 7 year old in 2023 for some reason.
Slightly unrelated, but I remember in third grade when the beauty and the beast remake came out the teacher was asking which beauty and the beast we liked more. Most said the remake was and then ONE kid said they liked the animated one more and several kids booed at them, myself included. Yeah, really wild thinking about it now O-O
@@TisPopRockbruh how old are you lol
i’m actually so angry at the clips of people saying animation has ‘come so far’, animation is losing what makes it animation
I know! Animation is loosing its charm.. its just sfx now and people act like it’s impressive
i pretty sure disney made them say that i mean just the way there talking just screams "we were payed to say this"
Actually, as an artist I think animation is getting far in examples like Klaus, Arcane, Puss in Boots or Spiderverse. The problem is not the lack of good animation or animation losing something, since in those examples you can see how animation is pushing its limits in a good way, the problem are multi billion studios like Disney not understanding what animation is about, or acting as if animation was lesser or outdated. The problem is Disney as a company.
@luvamiart8567
Animanimation is more than the visually aesthetic qualities.
Look at the rules for Tom and Jerry; Ed, Edd, and Eddie; and Looney Tunes. The characters have to appear "animated", almost exaggerated, to make the motion and emotion and such look fluid.
Visually, all mediums have become more stunning. Skyrim was a polished turd that people have nostalgia for because it was visually pleasant despite lack of substance. The new lion king is an animation that lacks "animation". Its visually not bad at all to look at, but its stiff and soulless compared to the 2D stuff of the past.
@@jaybay5538 If you think the examples I gave have only visuals as their quality, either you haven't watched them or you don't understand animation. Not to add animation has a wide variety of styles depending on time and country, some more stylized, some more cartoonish, some more cinematic, some more realistic. The original Lion King is way more visual and stunning than Tom and Jerry ffs, you cannot force the animation rules of those cartoons (which are fine, I like them too for what they are), to all animation, or you won't have animation masterpieces like the original Lion King, The hunchback of Notre Dame, Atlantis, Nimona or Spiderverse.
Btw, Skyrim is not the best game in history but it's remember for more things than visuals, like the soundtrack, the different jobs, the dragons, the magic and the funny bugs, mods and memes, nostalgia can have more than one factor.
"The human emotion in how the rocks tumble down" is one of the craziest things I've ever heard
Everything Everywhere All At Once actually pulls that off
Everything he says in interviews- especially that part about James' voice acting, GENUINELY sounds like what you write on a test when there's that one question you don't know dick about so you just keep talking and making stuff up in order to fill up space.
When you can honestly say that rocks have more emotion than the characters
Yeah, just like how in nature documentaries, it’s the rocks that have all the emotions and not the animals. 😅
@@its_elkku135that's a good movie. Enjoyed it alot.
Human emotions according to Jon Favreau:
-Happy
-Sad
-How the fur glow
I'm feeling pretty fur glow today, I'm not sure what you mean..
- the color of the rocks and dirt
But lions don't feel emotions!!1!1!! It's not realistic!!!1!11😶😓☹😰🤬
Dude....fur glow!!!
My dogs have emotions in their faces. What is Favreau talking about? Animals DO change their faces.
"A delayed Lion King 2019 review is eventually good, but a rushed Lion King 2019 review is forever bad" - Shigeru Miyamoto
A Kimba moment
Close enough
"A delaye, a dela. A delayed gamne, a delaypb. Bad game design."
~ Shigeru Meat
Better than the movie itself.
“A rushed game will always be bad, a delayed game will also always be bad. I HATE MAKING VIDEO GAMES.”
-Mario man
Whenever I hear Jon say, “It’s like his lightsaber” it makes me want to punch a hole into the fabric of space and time.
this!!!!!
You just know they only brought back James Earl Jones because “DART VADR????? STAR WAR!!!!!”
it's quite honestly the most reddit statement ever uttered by a human being
It sounds like the most scripted memberberries line ever.
"Lightsaber."
Imagine being an actual nature photographer, laying in a bush for weeks to perfectly capture amazing pictures of animals in their habitats, and then hearing “the skies are too pretty, nobody gets that lucky”
To be fair my only nitpick with this entiiire video was that section, just because of the examples used.
All of the example photos are incredibly heavily edited, and most likely they are composites of multiple shots. It wouldn’t be possible to “film” them looking quite like that.
That said, his point still stands. There are a ton of beautiful skies and a ton of ways to capture them and they were using CG anyway so they ~could~ film it looking like a composite if they wanted to. Just the examples were poorly chosen.
I can go outside on any random Tuesday at sunset and see the most awe-inspiring, majestic, display of colors, light, and clouds I've ever had the joy to behold. Jon needs to touch grass and soon
@@gogongagis3395 fuck around with your camera a bit, and yes, you can get GREAT sky and landscape photos. Do a little editing and thatll happen too. You know who does that? documentary filmmakers! honestly a good nature doc can be played without narration, and the viewer can just sit in awe at the vistas.
besides, ive lived in a few, unremarkable places in this world, and visited a few more. Ive seen beautiful skies from Ticonderoga, Shamokin, Baltimore, Homestead, and even in Ohio. none of these are known for having beautiful skies, But they exist all the time in nature. Be it after the rain, or a day with light cloud cover. why can see long rays of light peeking through clouds in baltimore during a commute but not in the singing lion movie?
@@sourdrop He lives in LA, he's probably never seen grass.
I see beautiful skies everyday not gonna lie. It's not that hard nature is naturally pretty.
I feel awful for the artists who spent years of their lives making photorealistic landscapes and sets only for Disney to pretend like it was live action.
They're tricking the audience into being less impressed by their hard work. It's very silly.
Lol!
@@TheZigzagman Disney’s always done that. It’s not hard work by hundreds of artists, it’s “Disney magic.”
@@fallenmango8420 Yeah but at least to a certain extent the "Disney Magic" used to imply that Disney's staff were so hard-working they could make any story wondrous and amazing.
Well tbf, it's not as if they're discrediting their work by saying it's live action. If anything, most people calling it live action probably consider it a compliment. (although I agree that it's not live action)
Hearing John saying "people moved on from the old way of animation" is so fucking condescending. No, people DIDN'T move from 2D animation, corporate executives just assume we did and went on with what's more trendy, that doesn't mean we don't want to see it again and that's why most people agree this movie sucks ass
Truth be told 3d is easier and thus cheaper to do.
@@G396 True, but Disney is a business empire with trillions of dollars under its belt so they don't get to pull that excuse. They have no problem gathering animators to make a proper 2D movie like back in the 90s, it's just that they feed people the "it's a dying trend" bullshit to save themselves the effort.
It's even more weird when they say its not trendy but the love for anime has grown so much over the past 10 years..ya know, 2d animation...
@@G396 The other thing is that 2D animators started unionizing in the 40s and 3D animators didn't exist then, so they're easier to take advantage of --> cheaper animation
EDIT: 3D animators might be more covered than I thought initially when I wrote this comment, but checking today I found that *VFX* artists have no union. That puts a whole new, disgusting light on the "it's live action" garbage they were trying to push while they were marketing this vile sewage
Basically they want to spin "we arent doing this anymore because its expensive to produce, and even more expensive to do right, and we've avoided doing it so long that there arent enough people to do it that we could conceivably do it cheap anymore" into "its better and you think its better, *everyone* thinks its better!"
the fact that the "realistic live action" seems to never show them expressing fear/sadness/etc via their ears laid back is so crazy to me. like the #1 most common cat emote
It's wild that the original cartoon does a better job of depicting feline body language than the realistic "documentary-like" remake.
@@debleb166 right. someone should have shown him big cat videos on instagram. they go nuts
@@debleb166"too cartoony" "we want to make it realistic" why can't we have fun anymore?? Who tf goes into a family-friendly movie for the REALISM??? What, are we gonna be upset that a movie set after 9/11 doesn't mention the tragedy when the film is about a teenage girl who learns to cook? Are we gonna throw a fit that the movie about a shape shifting werewolf going into middle school doesn't tackle the complexities of right-wing versus left-wing politics? Why tf would kids themselves care about the realism in a movie about talking and singing animals? Why would ADULTS care about the realism if they didn't have gripes about it from the first movie??? My head hurts.
It was really creepy hearing them say "they wanna make the same movie again" if you wanna watch a movie watch it and show it to others if they haven't seen it. It's sad they think this is what they have to do to get people to feel something. And then on top of that they made up crap about how they "tried" and they say they didn't want expression. If they didn't want characters to emote why did they make a movie. That's like making a cake and not using eggs, sugar or butter. It's assanine
@@randompromises1038 because kids need to learn the "real" world apparently
“I was too busy focusing on the fur glow and the dirt colored dirt” was a perfect summary for this entire movie
Scar singing a villain song to his army of hyenas is so unrealistic so it was a better idea to have him do slam poetry about beeper repair in a horribly lit cave instead
🤣🤣
It's not even a cave, just some rocky terrain that JON decides to inexplicably call a cave
"Slam poetry" BRUH I CANT
What about the hyenas goose stepping? I think that's pretty real
"Slam poetry sucks even when you're twenty years old and good at it." - Andrew Klavan
"I like keeping my skies simple because it's so rare to catch a beautiful sky." Probably the most anti-Hollywood, un-Hollywood idea in the history of industry-killing ideas. Stanley Kubrick: "I see 'realistic' every day of my life. When I go to the cinema, I'd like to experience something unique."
True
Plus has he ever even been to Africa? It is filled with some of the most beautiful skies you'll ever see
@@ae5704 Not cost-effective to shoot in Africa... or anywhere outside a computer.
@@HC-cb4yp doesn't mean you can let the artists have fun and render some beautiful skies!
Also its insane that people can catch beautiful skies just buy going outside every once in a while and believe that beautiful skies are unrealistic
"No father realistically loves his son" had me dying😂
One year in and I can’t wait for the sequel.
This and Silksong will release on the same day, I bet you.
Oh dang.
Any, second now.
any second...@@arielchandia2
Oh well well… if it isn’t a youtuber I watch with a similar algorithm for recommendations
The lack of ear movement is horrendous.
Scared cats, inquisitive cats, relaxed, etc. It's a major way that you can tell how a cat feels.
Animals emote just in different ways
And with visual ques
Right? How easy would it have been for simba to pull his ears back when he’s scared or shameful? They even did that in the original lion king
@@Galvatronover and? it's a movie for our entertainment. the biggest gripe about it is that there is no fucking emotion. so all dialogue falls flat. at least show some creativity so people could give a crap by moving ears. what's the point of live action when it just looks bad
Yeah. The brief clip of Aslan made me realize how lacking the ear movements were. Jesus, what a flustercluck.
Ikr! I don't know how they can say felines look emotionless, have they ever seen a cat before?
If you can believe it, removing Zazu’s first line gets worse. In the original, it had a payoff. Right after the stampede, Scar goes down to mock Simba. There’s no external reason why he can’t just have his hyena’s kill him then and there, but instead he mocks him and let’s him run. Why? Because it’s been established that Scar plays with his food! This allows Simba to escape and becomes his downfall. Meaning, not only is Zazu’s first line a great introduction to both characters and their dynamic, but it was INTEGRAL TO THE PLOT AND CHARACTER OF SCAR, AND THEY REMOVED IT!
HOW DOES IT KEEP GETTING WORSE!
i dunno about integral but it's certainly significant
By thinking that is how.
Not to mention the payoff towards the end of the movie, where Scar could have just pushed Simba down the cliff, but instead he's breaking his act to tell Simba how he was the one killing Mufasa (inadvertently giving Simba the strength and confidence to continue to fight him).
let's
WOW! I NEVER EVEN CAUGHT THAT! There are so many details that are in the original!
“No no, animation is bad and is for babies, and live action is good. The characters can’t be emotionally expressive because that would make this seem like a kids movie.
Anyways, the kids are gonna love this movie”
Oops. Nevermind they got paid anyway I guess.
@@Raya-ir4tm Whoever tries to claim animation is for babies should never be taken seriously.
Especially at Disney when *WALT DISNEY HIMSELF* said the opposite @TheBreakingBenny
Looks like poor Disney's getting a little senile in its old age.
Such ignorant fools, theres nothing wrong about emotions
Adum saying "This tree looks like shit. This bush looks like shit. This looks like shit. This bush looks like shit." Lives free rent in my head.
So, I’m blind, and I watch movies with audio descriptions. After watching this review, I thought I’d check out the movie, mostly for the obvious mixing of new and old James Earl Jones lines. Now, most audio descriptions for animated movies or shows begin with “In a cartoon” or “In animation.” If not, it’s assumed it’s live-action. The first words in the audio description for The Lion King 2019 are, “Live-action.” Even actual live-action movies don’t say they are, so somebody at Disney specifically had that word added to the description. They actually straight up lied!
Holy shit
@Farflung Clown That's Disney evil!
Wait if ur blind how tf did you type this-
@@vulturedrawz Keyboards designed for blind people, likely with Braille keys.
They went all-in on the live-action lie. They're hoping that if they just keep telling you that, you'll believe it.
Didn’t Hitchcock say something along the lines of “The closer we get to representing reality, the further we stray from expressing art”?
Bravo, Favreau.
Yeah never got the whole obsessions with hyper realism, the beauty of art comes from how it INTERPRETS reality, not from just straight up copying it
Who hired this guy?
There does have to be a level of realistic stuff in a movie, because otherwise younger people will get unrealistic expectations, but there's a line where it's just like, nobody cares that the monkey is carrying a stick
And this is why Desert Bus exists.
@@neevko267 Doesn't help that John lives in one of the ugliest looking places on Earth.
As someone who loves Hyenas as an animal, Keegan Michael Key telling Eric Andre to sleep somewhere else isn't realistic because Hyenas love to dog pile each other for body warmth.
What's the matter Jon? I thought this movie was supposed to be realistic? Where's the Hyena pile?
Especially considering the hyenas are supposed to live in a "dark and shadowy", i.e. cold, place
Listening to Jon talk about this film almost makes my soul leave my body with how cynical and jaded he is, thinking of milenials like we're so dumb. 'Just check these boxes, just paint by these numbers and we're all set'.
He's so full of himself. And I hate that weird mouth thing he does when he says anything ending with an "S" ....
And everyone proved him right. This was the highest grossing animated film of all time.
@@roosterboots4684 Maybe so, but I think it's also the one that ended this cycle of easy money for Disney. The live-action remakes/prequels Disney's made since this one did not do very well and I think it's largely because of the taste this one left.
@@kendrajade6688 I really doubt this movie has anything to do with that. The covid pandemic started the year after it came out, and I think the closure of theaters and Disney releasing movies onto Disney+ had more to do with it than public perception. The Little Mermaid remake had pretty much the exact same problems that the Lion King did but that movie did just fine
It's not young kids and millennials who've been giving this movie all this money. It's lazy parents, boomers around John Favreau's age, who just lazily drag their kids to whatever "kid's" movie looks the most familiar without caring if it's good or not. Yes, these remakes make bank, but it's not the kids buying the tickets here. Or the young adults who happen to hatewatch giving them the majority of the money. Even if the younger generation is deliberately getting all the blame for the shlock Disney is putting out, because the corporate heads want you to think that the generation forced to put up with this BS is definitely loving it, the majority of money is coming from what 40-50 year olds are doing.
"Kids don't like 2D animations, you know what they love? Documentaries." Jon at some point
I mean... to be fair I had very fun and calm memories relating to BBC docs.
As a kid I loved documentaries
I mean kids do love documentaries but whatever this clusterfuck is it's not one lol
documentaries are awesome til this day.
Documentaries that presents facts whimsically and wonderfully, educating and entertaining at once: Epic
CGI re-hash of a fun movie of expressive animals: Garbage
Absolutely obsessed with the fact that Surf’s Up did the “ground breaking camera movements” first. Surf’s Up fucking rules.
not only did they use the groundbreaking tech a decade prior, but they did it so much better. i remember even as a kid i was super impressed by how real the camera movements were. it doesn’t feel like the fancy 2019VR tech added anything to the movie at all.
Surf’s Up was AWESOME. Great movie. The DUDE is in it! THE DUDE! And Hades, and Napoleon Dynamite, and Sam Witwicky! Also, it gave me a better appreciation for surfing. And I LOVE penguins. /gush
@@isaiahmoungey3193 yeah it was just typical buzzwords to hype up the r/movie crowd
@@jessehcreative Who’s the dude?
I think you’re missing the point a bit. Surf‘s up used the camera movements to get motion capture data of the camera itself, because natural camera movement is hard to emulate. The movements were storyboarded beforehand and they’re using very bare bones animations for reference.
Lion king basically had a complete virtual set. Instead of storyboarding everything, deciding on environments and background beforehand, they have the world completely built, so they can set up shots and storyboard everything just like they could if they were actually in the Serengeti. Corridor digital has some great videos on VR production. It’s a completely different work flow to traditional animation.
The reason that YMS hasn’t made a part two is that in real life, it’s unrealistic for people to make a second part to something
Thats too lucky for real photography
What’s funny about the Teens React clips is that according to former Fine Bros child actors who are now grown up, the kids would often avoid saying anything negative about what they were reacting to for sponsored videos like this because otherwise their clips would get cut out of the final product every time. Guarantee there were teens on that recording day who had something negative to say about the trailer who either didn’t speak their minds or got cut out.
Yeah they’re just acting. Which honestly makes “wow dude pride rock” funnier to me, when you know it’s just him trying to think of something safe to say.
I love that John refused to allow Rafiki to carry a stick (because baboons don't do that), but Scar being ambitious enough to plot and plan a stampede to kill his brother and nephew in order to take over a monarchy is still okay. Lions don't do that either, John.
Yeah, that sounds more like a house cat thing.
Lions don't pass rulership of the pride down to their sons, either. If John was truly into 'realism', Mufasa and Scar would have continued to rule the pride together, and Simba would have had to leave and take over another pride when he became an adult.
@@monsterfurby ....that is the best reply ever. I’m keeping an extra eye on my cats now. Play nice, girls.
Literally everything in the story does not happen. Gatherings of herbivores for lions kill baby?????
@@jonleibow3604 Realistically, Scar would have been Simba's father. Darker maned lions, and the older brother get to mate more than the paler maned younger males. Lionesses are more attracted to dark manes, and brothers who form a coalition seem to have the agreement that the older brother is the one who mates, and the younger just takes his place if he dies XD
Scar's such a good manipulator that he manipulated Jon Favreau into believing his plan was about the roar.
hahaha dude has a 6 year old brain
LMAO
Scar more like Jebaiter amirite
this is the best comment on this video
"Do the roar"
Another proof that the originals hold up? My Dad's 60 years old, he watched the remake on Plus... I knew it was going to be a trainwreck, so I didn't watch it with him. I should have. I wish I did. We would have been shit-talking the disaster the whole time.
But what surprised me was as soon as it was over, he didn't go to something else. He put on the original. a 60 year old man who obsesses over zombie media cleansed his palate with the original. He was THAT betrayed by Disney that to this day he ACTIVELY refuses to watch anymore LARs from Disney.
Fuckin' love this man.
this doesn't add the convo but just had to say i love that so much
"but he kept it hidden. Its like his lightsaber" God that makes me fucking cringe.
Same, for some reason it just infuriated me when he said that
“ItS LikE hIs LigHtSaBEr tee hee”
Cause it’s not a lightsaber… ITS A GODDAMN STICK! WHERE TF WAS THE MONKEY HIDING THE STICK?! WAS IT UP HIS ASS JON?!!!?
he's so giddy about the notion of it
it is a travesty how they've depicted the African Savanna. One of our most stunning biomes and they made it look so lifeless and washed out. The original film on the other hand translated the quiet beauty of the Savanna perfectly, especially with the opening sunrise
edit: with every enraged _"J O H N"_ i ascend
I feel that Edit on a spiritual level.
It's Los Angeles, not the Savanna.
Agreed! Why is the color contrast in this film so low/dull??
@@PeninsulaPaintings For the fur glow Favreau wanted, apparently, is what Adum says in the video, along with how it also hides iffy CGI.
It's the visual equivalent of the weird sound mixing & bizarre choices of takes/line deliveries glued together with nuggets swiped from the '94 masters, stock Savannah Creature noises, & digitized vocal "fixes", all done with the same slapdash artless "we'll make it amazing in Post by slathering on the Uncanny Valley" approach.
Tbh it was great to see this movie thoroughly & knowledgeably eviscerated particularly for the ways in which J-Fav's choices violated/failed the sense of craft specific to several of the specialist teams/talent these kinds of massive international releases bring together. Nobody gets to work at their best capacities when every department's busy obscuring colleagues' bad planning/direction/choices instead of better serving the story & elevating/amplifying everyone's collaborative excellence by rising to the high bars they set for each other.
It would almost be a brilliant metaphor for climate change if it were intentional. But I, you, and everyone knows it isn’t intentional. Jon is just lazy.
They didn't hire any of the furries that have been obsessed with this film for the last three decades and it shows.
Nope
Every Disney movie should have a Furry Consultant. Probably wouldn’t go over well with the Florida GOP, admittedly.
Zootopia was pretty good. Coincidence? We think not.
It's like not hiring cosplayers to act in anime movies.
When furries can make something better than a multi billion dollar company we have a serious problem.
I really forgot as a kid just how anxious this scene made me, anxious for Simba because you KNOW that voice as a kid, the voice when you've done something bad and you know you did and there's no way out of punishment. And no matter what punishment, the disappointment in that voice is the scariest part, because of the anticipation. 1:28:50 this really was such a masterpiece.
I'm surprised YMS/Adam didn't note the one big deviation and problem with the Stampede sequence, even past the music cues shifting or being changed for no reason.
In the original sequence, Mufasa and Simba never actually talk to one another. They're not able to. The remake basically cuts down and merges two scenes together, while giving them dialogue that did not exist originally.
In the 1994 film, Mufasa never reaches the tree that Simba's hanging onto, he gets knocked down and it's where Simba almost dies for it, and has to be caught out of the air. In the remake, they have Mufasa reach the tree, talk to Simba, and then get knocked down, while the tree goes with it. Before transitioning to the scene where Mufasa "vanishes" and then reappears to pick him up and get him to safety. And they completely halt the action for dialogue.
Completely missed the point of the original film's framing of that scene. There was no dialogue said for a reason and that is because the music and the animation worked together to convey every emotion you needed to know without dialogue. But in the remake, they straight up did not want to have any of these characters emote in a human way. All you need do is look at the few seconds of Mufasa running through the stampede, to when he gets knocked down and looks up to Simba. There are multiple different expressions and emotions being conveyed that just completely nail the sense of panic, dread, and desperation that this dad is feeling seeing his kid in a literal life-threatening situation. And even the way it happens is beyond human. Mufasa tunnels on just reaching Simba quickly, and gets sideswiped for it. You can feel how much he cares by how much he stops caring for his own wellbeing, without a word being said.
Not only do the expressions just hit the nail on the head, but narratively, this is the first time you'd ever see Mufasa get hurt. He's never in a morbidly dangerous situation before this. The hyenas were nothing to him, and Scar immediately shrinks down when challenged by him. He was always the king of the plot. He literally felt invincible. The movie's first half framed Mufasa from the perspective of how a kid sees their parents when they're young. They think they're the kings of the castle and unbeatable. And ideally, it'd only be when you're older than you'd understand that's not the case, and by then, a lot more of the dialogue and how it's said makes more sense, like the kings of the past sequence. It's a small, tiny sequence, but it's a character and tone builder. From an audience's perspective solely, you see your favorite character sort of get physically deconstructed, and you see them responding to a situation in a new way. From a plot and character perspective in universe, it's great new development, but it just makes more sense than there'd be nothing said at that moment. It makes more sense to me that Mufasa as a character would want to get his kid the fuck out of dodge compared to him almost laxly trying to goad him to follow in a hilariously pressured situation. If he jumped into a squad of three hyenas without a second thought and was panicked over that, a stampede of hundreds of giant animals descending on Simba would easily warrant a similar if not worse response.
But lastly, even past all of that, it removes one giant connection that was incidental, but cool in the 1994 original. Mufasa's last talk with Simba was when he was explaining the kings of the past to him. They never had a talk past that. The next time they "do" is when Simba sees Mufasa's spirit in the clouds at night. It's almost a bookend to this major traumatic moment in the film. Everything between these two scenes was the lead up to, the initial fallout of, and the revisiting of Mufasa's death, and how Simba responded to it. It began with the kings of the past and ended some 10-15 years later in the film's timeline with a very similar talk with a literal king of the past. Almost everything relating to these two nighttime scenes and everything in between them is what spurns on the final act of the film. And in some way, I think it was more poignant that Simba never did get to say goodbye to Mufasa, and it keeps their dialogue to those bookend sequences.
It also fits to say within the 1994 film, Mufasa's motif doesn't play in a major capacity after his death until you see him in the clouds. It doesn't play during the stampede. But they completely overdo it in the new film. So you don't go from kings of the past's use of it, which was almost whimsical, so the use of it during the later "look harder" scene, which was almost melancholic. You go from kings of the past's use, to a random use of it during the stampede scene, to "look harder". They did not understand how to use the theme, or why its resurgence later in the 1994 film was such a big deal. And it should go without saying that using it during the stampede is almost a slap in the face for what the scene represents.
It all boils down to just not understanding that animation is meant to be unrealistic while subsequently not using that to your advantage. To just let facial expressions and music guide your scene over pointless dialogue. It's meant to be expressive and stylized. And it carries scenes a lot more than some corporate hacks seem to understand. Not just with color but with getting something animalistic to emote in a human way without coming off as weird or uncanny. It also boils further into seemingly not understanding that dialogue isn't random. There is a reason they didn't talk there in the original stampede. A very obvious reason. There's a reason the original had more of a focus on facial animation, and music, and sound design. There's a reason certain motifs did NOT get used for specific sequences.
It's a total shocker that the number of written words and sentences in the script shot up, and the focus on everything else went down. A total shocker.
jesus dude
I will read allat
Good golly get a publisher
I wish I could save comments on youtube
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Animals talking and singing musical numbers: "This is fine."
Sky too pretty and munkee with stick: "Suspension of disbelief *ruined."*
Munkee
Non-native munkee. "Realism" lol. HAY Y NO TIGERS BROOOO? Lol
Hey man, Jon Favreau lives in the horrible hellhole known as LA. He probably thinks clear blue skies are fake news.
When child sees hyperrealistic animal talk: HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS GROUNDBREAKING TECHNOLOGY HOW DID THEY DO THIS
When child sees hyperrealistic animal with stick: this is so obviously unrealistic i can't believe disney would do this to me
Monke
"To prove how not-nazis we are, we're going to remove a song that compares them to hyenas and makes them look evil and stupid."
Also we're gonna film the Mulan live action in a certain camp
@@ammagon4519This is the same company that called fans racists for not liking Reva in that crappy Kenobi show.
@@sirpepeofhousekek6741 that show has Mary Elizabeth Winstead wearing tight jeans as a hot alien. Haven't seen it but that's the only thing I know about it so automatic 10/10 show
@@Coconut_Prrson She is not in the Obi-Wan show, she is in the Ahsoka show and yes she looks hot as hell as Hera. Sabine actress is pretty cute too.
@@SammEaterokay liberal
It was so epic Girl Boss of Shenzi to be manipulated by a crazy old man because he said Beep. I’m so glad they empowered her to be even dumber in this movie, what a feminist icon
“lol i’m not autistic”
my comfort video:
this is also my comfort video
"Nothing in real life looks beautiful. I live in Los Angeles" is such an effective summation of this entire film holy shit
Such a raw line
Los Angeles was a beautiful place ruined by the worst urban design in America
@@Nick_J_ Roads specifically. Roads and abandoning public transport fucked up so much of the designs of our cities.
@@Nick_J_ I’ve never been, is it actually that terrible? I am absolutely someone who finds urban cities more beautiful then nature. Like, I’ve actually been in San Francisco and wanted to cry because it’s so beautiful. Is Los Angeles actually that ugly? Like, even to someone who loves the way cities look?
@@Nick_J_ "Urban design."
Is that what they're calling them nowadays?
This movie is like one big "fuck you" for the whole art of animation. And it's from the best known animation studio in the entire world.
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to become the villain.
@@arandompasserby7940 this is basically Disney
@@arandompasserby7940 nm k ok o Yuki
Disney is only a "known" animation studio at all due to what it did far in the past. That Disney doesn't even exist anymore.
japanese animation (really a lot of japanese media tbh) has the west beat lol
✨️ JON ✨️
everyone calling it live action is literally so insulting to animators. its insane. hundreds of people spent so much time making those models, painting them, rigging them, animating and rendering them, just for people to say "omg its real life its live action!!" like dude what
its pretty insulting how disney is soo scared of the movie being called "animated" because of hollywood's stigma against animations being "only for children"...something that disney themselves are responsible for mind you...
I wish I could disagree with that statement. They're projecting their own immaturity onto the audiences.
Did Disney actually try to push that narrative?
@@cdubsb3831 i doubt its directly, but it is largley because of their popular 2d animation movies in the past that made people associate animated movies with primarley being targeted towards kids or family friendly
Based
Its funny how Disney is only now starting to try and go back and attempt doing 2D animation again after seeing their recent live-action remakes fail when compared to their animated films/shows.
The fact that I didn't know Zazu was voiced by Rowan Atkinson is a perfect testament to your point about his skill as a voice actor.
Rowan playing Zazu was one of the main reasons I switched to watching the English versions of Disney movies instead of my local language (Danish), along with a personal favorite, Jeremy Irons, and of course James Earl Jones. Few can copy such characteristic performances, especially when translated to another language so the lipsyncing and movements don't match up well. That didn't matter as much back when the mouth animations were all wonky even in the native language.
I didn't know Nathan Lane was Timon. Makes a lot of sense in retrospect
@@UltromanTheTacoman Wonky?
I think if you was British and old enough you knew it was Rowan Atkinson even as a kid. Not to take away from his performance but that sounds like something someone who wasn't British or old enough to know who he was would say.
@@AndyTaken well yeah kids who watch the movie aren’t going to know about voice actors, and if you watch it occasionally as you grow up it’s decent odds it never occurs to you. atkinson’s biggest character in the US is mr bean who doesn’t really have a voice, so we’re already at a disadvantage.
"He couldn't paint cause it'd ruin the allusion of him being real Mandrill, it'd be anthropomorphic"
He can talk!!
"Be Prepared" is literally the best song from the original movie and they fucking took it out. Amazing.
I have a little nephew and niece (8-9 years old) and neither of them knew jack about the lion king, so I did an experiment. I watched the realistic garbage one with my 9 year old niece and the original cartoon one with my 8 year old nephew. My nephew LOVED the cartoon, and for the following days he was singing can't wait to be king, doing pumba's voice and drawing lions and stuff. My niece on the other hand didn't even remember the movie, not a single song and I SHIT YOU NOT, she thought we were watching a boring weird Animal Planet documentary. Her words own "so they made them realistic but they can speak English?". enough said. kids can be extremely cynical.
I keep having to say this but kids are smart as you raise them. I was the only one of all my siblings who were dropped as a baby, and I ended up being the 3rd smartest but mentally slow, and my cognitive abilities got even more damaged after each sport I was forced to play, my youngest brother who was forced to play the least amount of sports, and had the least amount of brain damage is insanely smart, and has a high paying job. My biological mother did the smart thing, and offered to pay for our schooling if we got straight A's during HS.]
My middle brother who is the 2nd smartest learned accounting over the summer, skipped his accounting one class because how well he scored, and threw a temper tantrum that the military only wanted him for civilian jobs so he refused to join the military even when tempted with a higher starting pay. He was rewarded for his laziness/ punished the least. Where if I stepped out of line once I was punished.
I'm bringing up my own life as an example of my wisdom; your kids are only as smart as you raised them.
I agree with your sentiments and I feel your pain, but also I hope you showed your niece the original after putting her through that 😭
otherwise she just got done dirty lmao
I really hope you showed your niece the og and bought her ice-cream to make up for the experiment.
“experimenting” by showing children evil media is unethical
That happened
the disrespect Disney has for traditional animation really hurts my heart, they deliberately killed it from staying in mainstream media and now keep trying to emphasize that it's just "kids stuff" and that CGI animation is the stuff for grown ups
Walt is rolling in his grave, I’m pretty sure of that. Seriously, I read the extents he went to produce some of his early animated movies and I listened to him talking about animation, and then when I heard those people be like “oh yeah, kids nowadays don’t want 2D animation, is outdated, this is the future!” I felt a little heartbroken, no joking.
It’s pretty depressing. Cuz it’s totally the marketing and higher ups that are responsible. Every 3D artist i know, myself included, have an enormous amount of respect and reverence for 2D animation.
@@JesusOfPaign 💯💯💯💯👍👍👍👍💯
This is only half true cause they have honestly made it to where animation is general is ONLY for kids. Doesn't matter if its 2d or CGI.
also pay attention to academy awards. best animation awards always seem to shy away from traditional styles.
Not only is this a great critique of the movie, but a great way to teach filmmaking techniques. Honestly some wonderful work.
I don't blame Hans Zimmer for his comments. He's literally under contract to not say anything bad about the film and could also be labeled as "hard to work with" if he says anything out of line. We can't take interviews from people that worked on a project at face value. Just look at the interviews from the cast of Game of Thrones during the final season.
Likewise to Jon Favreau, to be honest. If you have seen the other films he has directed like Chef, Elf or even Iron Man and The Jungle Book (2016), it's clear he is actually a good director. This was clearly a contract job for him too, most likely so that he could get more creative freedom as the showrunner for The Mandalorian, where you can tell (at least at first) that he cared about the project in every aspect. It was a no-win scenario for anyone hired to direct this movie, because Disney was going to get it made no matter what, and eventually someone was going to say yes. It definitely explains why Favreau looks awkward in the interviews compared to when he is promoting most of the other movies he has directed. He almost certainly knows that this movie wasn't actually worth making, but was under contract not to rock the boat, because Disney wanted a surefire hit.
@@moviemaestro800 While I appreciate that Jon was probably under contract, I don't think any contract is going to demand its directors lie about the content of the film. Particularly for the claim that they didn't reuse old takes from the 1994 Lion King for Mufasa's dialogue. Jon certainly wasn't in any position to say "yeah the film's not good, don't go see it", but even considering his position, I think Jon was way more deceptive than he had to be. I think he's just full of himself and doesn't respect his audience.
@@jontyonopko From what I have heard about Disney contracts, I wouldn't underestimate the extent of the demands. That's all I'll say about that.
@@moviemaestro800 I certainly hope not. If it ever came out that Disney would actually contractually force their project leads to knowingly lie to their own audience, that'd kill their reputation dead as a doornail. No-one would ever go to their press runs expecting honest reveals or accurate information to get hyped about ever again. I think Disney as a company knows that's not a risk worth taking; even being a soulless corporation that doesn't respect their audiences, they do know that audiences don't like being lied to and manipulated. I think it's much more likely that it's just a director talking big game about his own project and never knowing when to back down or shut up, but if ever comes out that Jon didn't have any choice but to speak they way he did, Disney would be in for an unheard-of shitstorm.
If everyone was hard to work with, then everyone would be able to be more honest
Lions can only be awake for like... 3-4 hours a day, so if John wanted this to be realistic he should've just compiled a lot of shots of them sleeping and laying around.
Aaah, so _that's_ why Mufasa always sounds like he's falling asleep!
I did not actually know that. That's why they always look sleepy and bored in documentaries.
@@the_honored_one_06 yeah, i could only imagine if i had to live in African heat covered in fur having to basically hunt for myself and my 8 kids and fight for every scrap of food and territory 😭 i too would only be able to have about 3 working hours a day
@@the_honored_one_06 Yeah, they sleep for an average of 18 hours a day and are mostly active at night when it's cooler.
@@the_honored_one_06 Yep, carnivores sleep a lot more than herbivores.
Jon Favreau is like that one teenager who made a reddit post about how unrealistic movies are and it got 100 upvotes and now it's gone to his head
Jon Favreau is cinemasins?
😂😂😂😂
@@MrToddinodifference is cinemasins does it as a joke
@@Captaincory1 cinemasins is a joke, yes
😂🤣😂🤣🥲
Man this video reminds me why YMS is truly one of the GOATs of film reviews. The complete thoroughness of how he dismantled this movie was glorious.
Even after 2 years, I STILL come back to watch this video. Seriously one of my favorite videos on this app. I love the detail and passion put into this and the Kimba video, plus the editing videos about the lion king from the YMS Highlights channel.
The plants are so damn lifeless. Such a tragedy. African flora is absolutely fucking incredible and they butchered it
god you know a movies special effects are bad when even the fucking plants look more lifeless than they normally would
@@strangewigglytuff looking like the textures didn’t load
He lives in LA so....
That's just about the only beautiful thing to come from that god forsaken continent
How anyone can manage to do that is beyond me!
One thing I want to point out about "I Just Can't Wait To Be King" is how important it is in the original that the animals aren't realistic. As the song progresses, the animals all get cartoonier looking, with the elephants getting fatter and redder, the giraffes getting more angular patterns and thinner necks, etc. Simba's childish behavior is literally warping the world around him, leading up to the moment where the animals do the most outlandish thing-making a tower to hold Simba and Nala above them all-_and it all falls apart._ The movie is literally using surrealism to foreshadow what will happen if Simba doesn't take responsibility for his actions as a king, which is something you literally cannot do if you're so pressed for "Realism" that you refuse to even make the sky memorable in the opening scene of the fucking movie.
Oh wow how did I not realise that until now
God why does The Lion King get better for me the more times I look back at it, while the remake just gets worse and worse whenever I think about it
I guess it could also symbolise the Lion's place in the circle of life. Sure, they may be the top predators and "king" of the savannah, but that doesn't mean they're mightier or superior to the other animals, as they too will also someday become the grass the antelope eat.
Cut to Scar rejecting this principle and mass hunting every animal in the land because HE'S king, and HE gets to decide what's right for the pride, and it leads to the inevitable tumble of the tower. You can't be the king and sit on top of a great throne if there's nobody to rule over and nothing to sit on. IIRC when Simba returns, there isn't even any grass growing, just dry wood and rocks, which is Scar rejecting the circle of life even moreso. That's at least my interpretation anyways lol
@@IDontReallyWantARUclipsHandle the cire of life is bollocks...
I’d say it’s more that the increasingly cartoonish animals are Simba’s perspective on how idealistic the idea of being king is, which, as you said, is then quite literally collapsed as the reality of what acting that way would cause hits Simba as the song is swiftly finished, in the same way that his rule would be swiftly finished if his attitude was the same
@@Yuti640 i wouldn't make the argument that there is any actual learership present in that movie. vague aligories that can be interpreted how you like wont cut it.
Legit cried when Scar said "beep." Really touched my heart.
Listening to Jon Favreau talk about this movie is one of the most frustrating things imaginable because of the absolutely insane creative choices he tries to justify. "Too lucky for real photography"?! "Limiting the amount of facial expressions"?! What is he on about? Thank you for calling out his bullshit, this is one of my all time most hated movies ever made
The best part of it is THIS NEVER EVEN NEEDED TO BE MADE. Disney just wants to ruin everything because MONEY!!!!!!!!
Mufasa in the original: “Scar! Brother! Help me!” Mufasa says with fear and pain as he struggles up the cliff.
Mufasa in the remake: “Scar, help me.” Mufasa says with annoyance as Scar doesn’t cooperate.
The really made him an asshole here 💀
In the remake that scene played out like the a sitcom. Like Scar was the annoying neighbor and Mufasa was the suburban Dad of the main character.
Not to mention the difference between Jeremy Irons' and Chiwetel Ejiofor's delivery of the "Long live the king" line.
In Irons' version, he says the iconic line in a cunning, almost mocking sort of tone. In the context of the film, Scar knows that this is the last time that he can exert power Mufasa, so he uses that opportunity to play with Mufasa's emotions right before his death. You can see this as well in the sly grin he gives Mufasa as he delivers the line. By saying "Long live the king", Scar is mocking his own brother's mortality.
In Ejiofors' version however, he plays it fully straight when he says the line. There's no hint of mockery or power play whatsoever. It doesn't help that none of the animals are able to emote either, which makes it impossible to tell whether Scar is exerting power over Mufasa one last time or if he's just shooing him away.
“ Scar, help me” Mufasa said calmly
The inclusion of that one word, "brother", made the original delivery of that line so much more powerful. Mufasa only has seconds to process that Scar no longer feels any fraternal affection for him; meanwhile, Scar savours every drop of the moment where his brother, beloved and idolised by all around him, realises that in his final seconds of life he is completely alone.
Jon Favreau: Giving Rafiki a stick isn’t realistic!
Jon Favreau, five minutes later: Oh but for the fight we had to give him one. It’s like his lightsaber!!
*MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND, JON.*
Marvel Brainrot in real time
Yeah because monkeys never use objects. Actually no animal besides humans have the ability to use objects
@@donamirtz is this a joke? monkeys are one of the most well known animals to use objects, like using a stick to eat ants from an ant hill
@@eggytricky yes. It is a joke. Clearly sarcasm
JON!
I remember hating this remake when it came out, but I had no idea how much the director just blatantly admitted to some of the biggest issues. He's straight up saying that they intentionally made their expressions so bland... why?! You make really good points about the lack of color theory and lighting to help with communicating emotion. This movie feels utterly soulless
@MuhammadAnwaar99 oh shit you're right wow the fur glow and dirty dirt is pretty realistic looking, that saves it 😌
Can't wait for Adam to talk about how Timon and Pumba basically bully Simba and treat him like an outcast in the 2019 version. They are so insufferable.
God, Favreu just straight-up explaining "Yeah we really wanted to make an ugly cash-grab and here's how we made it ugly and here's how we made it a cash-grab" is madness inducing.
Part of me is thinking that maybe he wanted to make The Mandalorian but Disney wouldn't let him until he made this film first, because if you look at his previous films, many of which use practical effects, like Elf, Zathura, Chef, the first Iron Man, even Cowboys and Aliens and his remake of The Jungle Book, there's a lot more love and care put into those than a single frame of this film.
Your comment made me laugh actually with my voice. Thank you lmfao
@@VegimorphtheMovieBoy Hot take, the Mandalorian is good *despite* Jon, not *because* of him.
Hotter take : The Mandalorian is not very good overall, actually.
@@KodiKitten343 yeah, but it's great by comparison to the rest of Disney Star Wars. Its like giving someone dog food after they've been living off of shit.
Mufasa ‘94: “IS THAT A CHALLENGE?!” 🦁
Mufasa 2019: “Is that a… challenge?” 🤔👴🏾
Mufasa ‘94: “Simba?! 😟😨”
Mufasa 2019: “Simbaaah? 👴🏾 😐”
Mufasa: yEs
Mufasa 2019: Seembaah!...com 2 mee...Yoo can do eet!
Mufasa ‘94: “SCAR!! BROTHER, HELP ME!!!”🦁
Mufasa 2019: “Scar! Help Me!” 😐🥱
Mufasa ‘94: “You deliberately disobeyed me. And what’s worse, you put Nala in danger!” 😡🦁
Mufasa 2019: “You deliberately disobeyed me. And what’s worse, you put Nala in danger.” 😒😐
This video is unironically teaching me about the interaction between filmmaking and it's score, so thank :)
The annoying thing is that they could have got Idris Elba to play Mufasa instead... he has a powerful voice.
Or like Keith David of you want a non-British guy
Or Keith David
@@VelvetPersonafuck yea arbiter
considering the big statement they were making with the casting they really did not put ANY effort in thinking about who they'd actually cast. I mean jesus Laurence Fishburne, Forest Whittaker, Idris Elba have a commanding presence, or maybe a sort of classical voice of cinema history like Sidney Poitier, idk if they are great for Scar, but you know someone who has a level of gravitas and age and experience. It feels like a wasted opportunity not to bring in a well-known African-American actor, a veteran of film who everyone recognises and finds a commanding presence, instead of a younger character-actor.
Also just want to emphasise how fucking WEIRD it is that voice-casting lions has somehow become racialised in the campaign for this film??? I mean again this is so inconsistent, this isn’t an all-African cast, or even an all-black cast if thats their point, becuz Timoon and Pumba and Zazu are as white actors as you can get. So why the hell did Disney get so weird about that all the lions are only black voice actors? They pawn it off as progressive but its just inherently problematic. And if you’re gonna get voice actors, maybe look into ACTUAL veteran widely beloved famous actors instead of Beyonce and Chiwetel Ejifor (who i love as an newer actor, but makes no sense for replacing Jeremy fucking Irons)
@@GuineaPigEverydayexactly thank you!
"Should we repaint the Mona Lisa simply because we have better paints?" Just because the technology is better does not mean that the end product is better by default
top tier comment
golden comment
even if the painting did end up looking better it wouldn't necessarily *be* better for a whole host of reasons such as historical value
and with CGI this situation is also somewhat applicable, like yes, the cgi is impresive, arguably way moreso than the cel paintings in the original, but that doesn't make it better
@@fortnitesexman i love the mona lisa for semantic reasons that make me a "that asshole"
the mona lisa is mostly popular because it was stolen. Prior to its theft it was just put out in the open like all the others. it was its recovery and the mysterious nature of the heist that made it so popular in the public eye.
similarly, many movies like the lion king arent discussed by the public but then someone does something to the original and everyone galvanizes around an opinion.
Yeah, but it's not really realistic to have good paints. We'll repaint it by smearing our shit instead.
As an artist, my blood boils with the average joe's idea that "animation has evolved
"nobody likes books anymore we have movies, which are somehow inherently superior and clearly what book writers were trying to do the whole time"
It's like people who say that colour is a straight improvement over black&white pictures. B&W is a deliberate, legitimate artistic choice, just like Razörfist said!
Seriously, when I was a kid my favourite Disney film was Snow White, from the late 1930s, it was at least 60 years old when I was watching it. I never realized it was that old a movie at the time, it truly is timeless. Whereas all the CGI movies I liked as a kid look super dated now. I think pretty much every CGI movie will eventually look like Ice Age.
W
Ehhhh I kinda disagree. The LOR Trilogy is quite old but the cgi in those is miles better than a lot of the sludge we get in modern movies. But besides that yeah 2D ages better.
"It's like his lightsaber."
In Star Wars movies, do we ever see a character who wields a lightsaber, use it only in the last 10 minutes?
To be fair... Yoda in attack of the clones.
Not saying this as a 'got ya' or anything im just too much of a star wars fan for my own good
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As a star wars fan I want to also say no the stick is not a lightsaber either since he uses his staff to teach or move a lot more than he uses it to fight. HIS WALKING STICK ISNT A WEAPON JON
@@justice9539 so the worst one then. Lol
It is just ment to be a moment where the audience cheers.
The MCU is not as horrible as Martin Scorsese might make you think, but it started encouraging filmmaking with focus on audience applause moments that just cheapen artful movies.
I also hate how he's like "he had to have his stick for the fight" as if the stick was ever meant to be his weapon.
The whole POINT of that scene with the stick was to be funny, like, oh this old wise monkey is always walking around with his magic stick and suddenly it turns out he's also a martial arts champion beating up these hyenas in a 10 second bit. It's not supposed to be a serious, epic, anticipated moment, JON.
Jake Skywalker
Scar sounded more concerned for Simba's life during the stampead scene than Mufassa.
“SIMBA’S DOWN THERE”
“Eh? Simba? Who’s Simba?”
@oswald-kp1bm Scaar. Help Me. 😠
@@user-jw7nk2ur8t "What are you waiting for? HELP me, I don't have all day"
Hearing the director talk is mind-boggling because he doesn't even attempt to sound like an artist. He sounds like the epitome of unimaginative corporatism and has no shame about it.
every time i watch this video and hear "cg artists are tempted to make the skies beautiful cause why not?" it pisses me off more and more. said as though it's some bad habit
ARTISTS LIKE TO CREATE BEAUTY *JOHN*! A VISUALLY INTERESTING SHOT IS MORE PLEASING TO LOOK AT *JOHN*! SHOWING OFF THE NATURAL BEAUTY OF THE LANDSCAPE LEAVES A HUGE IMPRESSION JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL FILM DID! *JOHN!*
And the weird thing is, John Favreau can be a good filmmaker. He has directed and written good movies before. I don't know if his priorities were out of whack here, or if he's just really out of his element here or if he's just collecting a paycheck and didn't give a shit. It's kind of baffling.
Especially since he did the 2016 Jungle Book which is a similar film but didn't fall into any of the pitfalls that this one did.
He’s got the exact opposite of shame. He is PROUD of it being exactly that, showing how confidently incorrect he is about how good of a film it is.
"Yeah, I did this for money. So sue me."
The fact that that movie made 1 billion dollars just makes me sad. Cause that gives them the green light to continue to make pointless remakes till the end of time.
I'm pretty sure this film is him just being a yes man to Disney's demands in exchange for full creative control in developing the first season The Mandalorian
You know a review is going to be legendary when it's both longer than the movie itself, and also taking longer to make than the movie itself. Congrats Adum on completing Part 1!
Yah and there FUCKING MORE LATER
Yeah, interesting to think about how even as I write this literally no one but Adum and anyone who's proof watched this has seen the whole thing
I mean, it's not like actual WORK went into this movie.
And is a part 1 🥶
It's kinda like the bullshit asymmetry principle.
It still makes me shake my head when I hear that woman say "This isn't animation" when it is literally animation.
This somehow made me appreciate the original even more. Which is saying alot considering I can recite the entire original from memory.
I mean, I get why people say this is "live action". In John Lasseter's own words: "The definition of "Animation" is "to give life to"". See any life on the screen? Ye, me neither.
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fucking great comment.
comes from the larin word "animus" meaning "soul". So yes, to give life/soul to
Lions are going extinct due to this! 🙌💖 The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ✌💖
John lasseter is a hack too
The more I watch Jon's interview footage, the more I get the sense that he just straight up *hates* the original movie. "I like it because it's one of the most successful films of all time, but it's outdated because 2D animation is purely made for nostalgia." "When we looked at the kind of fruit it was, it wasnt filled with _face paint."_ "The original film had a schedule and a budget." "Hans really wanted to fix and fill the orchestra." He acknowledges explicitly that his intentions for the film run _counter-intuitive_ to the building blocks of the original film, as though he's using avant garde decisions to craft some sort of masterpiece. What's especially pissed me off as of late is his insistence that the only emotional impact comes from the color of the dirt and Hans' score, that "You could hold up still drawings, and you'll cry." But Han's score is only impactful because the score worked _together_ with the _animation and story!_ *We remember the movie first!* There's just so much shade being thrown it's kind of jarring
I dont like the Lion King that much, but I do like some of the things about it. Jon, on the other hand, missed basic plot details and got accepted to make this movie. It's baffling. And what he says completely shits on 2d animation and the limitations they had to face back then.
I tried watching Rick and Morty the other day, but my brain just couldn’t make sense of the images because animation has just moved on from that style 😅
Why oh why does Disney purposefully hire people who are in to get rid of EVERYTHING that makes some of their stories magical? The Last Jedi is another example. And the fact that Jon is in control of so many new Star Wars productions makes me incredibly disappointed.
@@NiGHTSaturn Don't get me started on that. Look what they've done to the theme parks. It's like they can't make their new thing look good without knocking down and insulting something great they've done in the past. Because they know their new thing is SHIT.
Ironically enough 2D animation is usually better. But it typically requires talent so Jon couldn't have that.
heres to two years waiting on part 2! 🍺
John thinking animals have "no emotion in the face" is so stupid. One differentiating feature of mammals when compared to other vertebrates is that they have facial muscles, not just ones to open the mouth but ALL OVER the face.
“We gave Rafiki his stick for the fight, he kept it hidden, it’s like his lightsaber hehe” bruh I’m dead 💀
“Just shut up and consoome”
It's especially funny (in a sad way) since the movies with the lightsabers kinda also got their legacy fucked over (and by Disney, no less :D)
The wonderful world of Hollywood, where we recognise what made films work, and operate under nothing but artistic integrity. It's like poetry, really.
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recently this kind of bs has been pulled in multiple movies with this attitude. One that really did just put a lightsaber in.
This line makes me cringe so much
Somebody was making Mandalorian too much...
The fact that Simba noticing the wildebeest is a fully CGI still shot while in 1994 they HAND ANIMATED a dolly zoom makes me wanna scream
There was a point and time where Disney animation was really pushing things forward. Beauty and the Beast was right up there as well. The ballroom dance scene was a technological marvel at the time, and that was late 80s - early 90s! Now they're just coasting on nostalgia with this 260M copyright renewal
@@thepassingstatic6268 And the thing that sucks about this 'CGI-only animation is superior/more difficult/more impressive' is that it minimizes just how impressive those scenes are. The Beauty and the Beast ballroom scene is a visual masterpiece that still looks absolutely flawless to this day. But to those subscribing to the idea that hand-drawn/2D animation is simpler and lesser than pure CGI, it's just a cartoon and a relic of the past.
@@Vampiyaa I agree with everything but that that last part. As long as anime is a thing, 2d will still have a place long term. Thats one place that still gives a damn about hand drawn animation, and good VO. Allegedly Disney is gonna lean back into 2D again at some point in the near future. I'm not holding my breath but we'll see.
@@thepassingstatic6268 If Wish was supposed to be the start of that process, I wouldn't put all my hope in it. That style still looks over-reliant on 3D and, quite frankly, terrible.
So much money, so creatively bankrupt.
@@Shalalacls I didn't even know Wish was a thing. I looked up the trailer and I get the impression it's trying to go for something like the Spiderverse/Puss in Boots last wish style with its animation, but it looks a lot cheaper than that from what I've seen. I think a great movie that uses traditional animation techniques but with a different kind of look is Klaus.
As what Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park, I direct that to Jon:
"You stood on the shoulders of geniuses, tried to get something out as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, you packaged it, you slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and *slam* your selling *slam* your selling"
Or
"you were so preoccupied with whether or not you could, that you didn't stop to think if you SHOULD"
Also to add in Mufasa's death scene- in the original, he's pleading with Scar, using their family connection when he didn't immediately help. In the 2019 version, he just sounds demanding and huffy.
"Nothing looks beautiful in real life, I live in Los Angeles."
Pretty applicable statement to the entire movie industry as a whole.
we should move hollywood to colorado or montanna
@@demonalivefornow9680 they hide oil mines with fake buildings
that would explain why the color palette of recent Hollywood films looks like it was derived from the holocaust.
I laughed my ass off in this line.
@@demonalivefornow9680 I mean, it's just, like, his opinion on a subjective beauty
Even Jeremy Irons saying "whippersnapper" is way better than anything the 2019 Scar said in the movie.
And that was after a 10+ minute long interview, unprompted, without a director.
I saw a middle school performance of The Lion King Jr. The kid playing Scar was probably 12 at most. She was still better than anything the 2019 Scar said in the movie.
Yep definitely I love that so much lol
I see no lies 😍
@@abigailc8829 my Elementary school would do a “big production” where they took a play and did a big show. They did one for the lion king broadway and that had more heart and care than the 2019 version.
“sOdA” made me choke in the kitchen at 4 am, waking my house up. Great job.
“You can see the human emotion in the rocks and the color of the dirt and the fur glow” kind of broke my brain.
I don't think Jon read the novel he's presenting the book report on.
With how clearly aged James Earl Jones's voice is now, it seems like a better role fit for him would've been Rafiki, which I think would've been great from a meta perspective on how he still gets to mentor Simba
Oh that would have been GREAT, FUCK, THIS MOVIE IS SO STUPID they didn't do anything to its full potential
Yes, I was wondering how they could have still incorporated James without forcing him to recite old lines without the same gravitas. Since they made Rafiki more serious anyway, this choice would've been quite clever - but artistically clever isn't realistic so Jon didn't wanna.
In the Latin spanish dub, the voice actor who voiced Simba in the 1994 movie (Arturo Mercado) got the opportunity to voice Rafiki in the live action
thats such a good idea
Yo, that actually sounds kinda weird but kinda cool
The whole "live action vs animation" debate is mind-numbingly stupid. Animation is not a genre. It is a medium. It's that simple.
Yes I completely agree!
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@@laurenc5333Yo same, that's epic
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honestly this is a great criticism for the new lion king but its also a fantastic analysis of the old one, when broken down like this you can really tell the amount of care they put into it.
I hope I'm not the only one still watching this after 2 years
You are not, its crazy how rewatchable this dudes videos are lol.
im still waiting for part 2 🥲
@@killer_queen4062 same
After this I can't stop taking note of pretty skies on nice sunny days and going "Wow what an unrealistic, beautiful sky, too bad John Favreau has never seen one," which happens almost every time I go out driving
HOLY SHIT ME TOO
I'm the same but with grass. For some reason "realism" seems to mean brownish desaturated grass.
Meanwhile in reality grass is frequently, you know, GREEN.
What do movies have against bright saturated green? It exists. I can see it every time I look out my goddamn window.
Every time I look at a beautiful sky I just go “explain this JOHN!” quietly to myself
I guess he hasn’t gone outside often?
I remember when Dances With Wolves came out, one of the behind the scenes stories was that filming in South Dakota, the skies were so beautiful that they had to be toned down in post-production, because audiences would have seen them as being unrealistic. But I guess you never saw skies like that, JON.
I hate how people just dismiss 2D animation as "bad" or "primitive"
Me too, I think 2D is way more appealing than CG, even with the advances we've made. There is just something about hand drawn characters that is missing in CG, especially the boring way Disney uses it.
Or, my favourite: "It's a cartoon. It's for kids!"
I miss the time when 3D Animation was an ATTRACTION instead of the norm... god damn it i feel old...
@@undertakernumberone1 it's really sad how people so easily forget that cartoons were originally made with an adult audience in mind
2D animation is the best type of animation
Thanks Pixar.
About the 'be prepared' section, they did the same thing with Ursula in the live action remake. They removed the verse in her song were she says that women should not speak. It's like Disney doesn't want their villains to be evil anymore
Did they seriously? Don't let them catch wind of "Mother Knows Best" then.