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I was hoping for this review to compare the film with the older 2013 version (Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox), which not only was better written than this movie but also actually follows the soruce material from the book
I love that the writers thought the audience wouldn't be able to understand the concept that Barry can run low on energy if he doesn't eat and decided to add the smart watch meter thing, meanwhile the writers of Paul Blart Mall Cop granted the audience enough trust that they'd understand he runs out of energy when his blood sugar is low.
I want to clear some misconception: 330 million dollar is Ezra Miller's bail money. The CGI team budget is a pack of peanuts and a can of coke at a room temperature.
@@TheHolySemiColon That's still better than not being the usual lineup for Nolan's films. Come to think, Bale hasn't been in much movies and TV series in recent years.
That was actually the other Barry, who's apparently way more patient, doing a quadrillion password and not trying to give up while the main Barry just gave up
Also, wouldn’t a normal person go insane typing that many passwords into a computer just to find the right one? I usually get frustrated around the fifth try. And how come a highly sophisticated military computer doesn’t have an auto lock after too many tries? It’s just one scene but it already generates a buttload of inconsistencies.
This film taught me don't blame the employee blame the boss who gave the employee impossible tasks and limited deadlines on top of having to work with and in a way under Ezra Miller.
It's the same thing with Synder. "Oh that? I like inept depressing Superman and Batman killing criminals. Got any problem?" I guess at the very least you can overlook the art style if you like the story enough. The same cannot be said with the core narratives.
@@whoshoo No Way Home is better than this by a mile, because it actually respects its characters and uses its nostalgia to service the story, not act as pandering like The Flash does
@@whoshoo Get your head out of the sand and look around. Rewatch The Flash, then Rewatch No Way Home and see if you can honestly come to the same conclusion.
"This is the film equivalent of sewing a bunch of dead bodies together and passing it off as a living human being." Has anyone pointed out yet that the black and white CG Superman cameo is George Reeves, who many believe committed suicide because he couldn't find a successful role outside of Superman and eventually began to resent the character? It was either that or murder and, either way, he has no living relatives or an estate that could sign off on this cameo in a movie released on the 64th anniversary of his death.
Dumbsville did, he even showed what Kevin Smith had to say about it. "When I'm fucking dead, you can literally do anything." It's messed up that they did that AND the fact people can defend such a thing. Hell, he even brought up how both this and the Chip and Dale Movie made profit off of someone who was royally screwed over by their roles many years ago, just for some cheap story or cameo.
In love with the fact that the movie implicitly acts like Barry’s mom just died naturally and no one is actually responsible for it and it’s not worth it for Barry to view her death through time (without disrupting the timeline) and see who actually killed her and free his dad that way.
another mistake by adaptation because in flashpoint (and the tv show) the killer was zoom aka the reverse flash aka the main villain of the movie, he also searched for the killer but of course since it was a time travelling speedster that were no proof at all
@@ironmaster6496 as an outsider from the fandom who just wanted to see ezra miller roasted, the more i think about this movie the more im fully convinced an AI wrote this script or at least the outline of the movie bc it makes no sense at all
@@alimica Sadly, I think an AI might have been better as at least they could have instantly said, "hey, this part violates the rules you wrote back here" and the AI would actually attempt to fix it vs. the real screenwriter who simply could not be bothered. This movie went through a multitude of rewrites, by the way. One of them was done by Grant Morrison - ya know, the guy who wrote All Star Superman, considered to be one of the best comic book writers in the industry and author of the best Superman comic ever. Yeah, the studio just vetoed that one out of the gate even when the insane deadline was met. Even worse, Ezra Miller was the one that got that rewrite done to begin with - the one good idea they had since it was obvious this movie always had problems.
That... Would've been a great twist! Barry was schizophrenic and hallucinating he was a superhero bc Superman's death triggered it. Better than the movie we got
Barry 1 should have been the villain of this movie, considering how Barry 1 was the one who abused his power in the first place and gave up easily while Barry 2 was the one who kept trying to do the right thing million times over.
I think the worst part is that Barry 1 gave up so fucking quickly when he didn’t have to. In Flashpoint, which also features a plot where the Flash saving his mother causes major differences in the timelines, the reason why Barry can’t just go back in time and keep on resetting is because, as a character put it, “Break the sound barrier, make a sonic boom. Break the time barrier, make a time boom”, which basically means that a lot of points in history have changed slightly that eventually goes so out of control that there are massive differences. Superman doesn’t land in the same place, Bruce dies instead of his parents, and so on. This means that Barry can’t just keep going back and changing the timeline to get his perfect timeline. Meanwhile, in this movies no such rule is ever established and there isn’t an in character reason for him to just not keep on trying instead of standing there and doing nothing while Barry 2 does his thing. Like, the Flash should never just give up like that. These are still people and have lives. Flashpoint basically forced Barry into letting his mother die because it was that or everyone dies. Meanwhile, this Barry is like, “Damn, I failed twice, I have to let my mom die now I guess.”
@@Redbird-dh7muIf that’s true then how could you fix that at all? Stopping yourself from going back in time wouldn’t fix anything. Flash still broke the “time barrier” to stop himself from saving his mom, so everything should still be wildly different when he returns. It’s made-up comic book nonsense to justify why Flash can’t just go back in time ALL the time.
@@MT-iw6sl to try to explain it in an odd timey way, I think they aimed for Flash stopping his past self from breaking the time barrier, therefore, stopping it from being broken at all. Time in DC is very odd and doesn’t always make sense. It isn’t very consistent all the time. Sometimes, Reverse Flash isn’t impacted by timeline changes, other times, he is.
I appreciate you hammering on the "turn your brain off" excuse people give. Not every movie needs to be a masterpiece, but corporate copy-pasted schlock like this needs to be condemned.
Especially with how much money is in it, hundreds of millions of dollars for a generic boring uninspired meh piece. Waste of time, resources, everything. How many small, new movies could have gotten made?
Yeah the same kind of people who constantly whine about that are the same people who think slurs and discrimination in real life is acceptable. They are weak and their legacy will serve as an example of social Darwinism for many years.
I saw the movie in theater and on HBO yesterday. My wife and i still enjoyed it. Ezra gets a bad rep from his IRL actions but the movie is entertaining- and funny at moments.
the "calorie smartwatch" thing bothers me so much, like all they had to do was have him act and look exhausted after doing the super stuff, then have him say like "i really gotta remember to eat before doing this stuff..." that's IT, that's ALL you need
Why even say anything? He does some heroics, comes out of superspeed huffing and clearly winded. Flash looks off screen, takes off again at superspeed, smash cut to him stuffing his face at a Schwarma place or something.
I find it hilarious how the Flash successfully trying every single password in such a small time window implies that all you need to do to make a computer run faster is just type really fast
Yeah, that’s always been super weird to me because like… only Flash can go that fast, not the bloody computer! Computers buffer and stutter and need time to process the inputs given. Flash could only go as fast the computer is capable of processing the keyboard inputs.
I love that they tried to hype up audiences by being like "look keaton batman is back" but then the audiences got there and the movie said keaton batman lives in a doomed timeline and that he dies in pain because of ezra miller
Right? Hilariously too, DC & WB pulled an equally outrageous bait & switch with Joker 2 - getting Joker fanboys hyped for a follow-up film where Fleck might truly ascend to his status as the Clown Prince of Crime only for the film to completely strip Fleck of even the slightest hint of style, competence or intriguing mania and instead out him as a substance-less empty pathetic loser only fit to disgrace himself publicly, get cruelly violated/abused, betrayed and abandoned by Harley aka the only person willing to be intimate with him on any level and then finally ultimately die alone - painfully & pitifully in obscurity
boy it sure was a decision to have supergirl die "inevitably" during the fight with zod even with the support of three other superheros. meanwhile superman was able to solo zod with limited injury. what a great story!
@@Lishadra did barry 1 ever try to save supergirl in the movie or naw? did they just try once with batman and barry 1 was like "sigh guess there's no avoiding it" i'm surprised barry 2 didn't kick the shit out of barry 1 for being useless tbh
The time travel concept in Xavier Renegade Angel (caveman episode) made more sense. "Every cigarette takes 17 minutes off of your life, every slice of bacon takes 9 minutes. If ya smoke and eat bacon fast enough, you can go back in time"
Nice to see Hollywood finally catching up to Neil Breen. It's all here--nonsense plot, gratuitous running, poignant death scene, explaining time paradoxes with floppy props, actor playing against self, godlike powers, awesome special effects...
"See this other Flash trying desperarely to save, not only his family, but the entire planet, while hes going through extreme pain every attempt he does? He is the bad guy" No seriously wtf were they thinking?!
I love that Robert Zemeckis’ Polar Express technology got dusted off for these incredible effects. I was worried we would never see that flawless art ever again
@@nont18411 "Downey's wife Susan Downey (née Levin) told Harper's Bazaar that he quit drugs for good in 2003 after she gave him an ultimatum". Now what you gonna do? cry? oh noo don't cry baby
If Adum ever had a roommate all he would hear is Adum screaming “ *YOU **_SNEAKY_** BOY* “ “ *JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF* “ “ THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS MOM’S SPAGHETTI “ “ w a i t h e ‘ s b a t m a n..? “
My biggest problem I've always had with this version of The Flash is Ezra Miller's running animation. Like NO TOLD EZRA TO RUN LIKE A PERSON?! Run like a HUMAN person!
seriously me and my friends were losing it because none of us saw Justice League i guess and we were all *shocked* by Ezra Miller’s run cycle. I think it’s supposed to look like he’s slicing through the air which could maybe work but it looks fuking ridiculous
If memory serves, the idea was to envision how running would look if there was no wind resistance, because Speedforce negates that resistance. It still looks stupid, but at least they tried something close to clever.
Fun fact: “people will forget their crimes” refers to the original plan for Ezra Miller to be present at the early screening with a men in black neuralyzer
Not to mention, when you set up a time travel movie where the characters jump from universe to universe, they become incredibly selfish. Flash just ditches his original timeline and all of the people in it. Their flash is gone, never to return, and he wont be there to help save them from future catastropies. Flashes original mom is still dead too. He just became a squatter in a universe where another version of her is still alive. Is flash so sociopathic that inhabiting a universe filled with copies of his friends that have had different life experiences is ok? Thats unironically how Rick Sanchez acts.
I'm pretty sure that if Rick and Morty existed in the DC universe, This Flash would be one of those super obnoxious fans who idolise Rick, so I personally think that, character consistency wise, it fits
@@ThomasMBlank Just wanted to pop in and say, about that... in Justice League, either cut, the scene where Bruce meets Barry, guess what's glimpsed on one of the monitors in the background? So the show exists in the DC verse. Whether that influenced Barry's choice in this, I dunno, but it's a bit hilarious that it's actually possible!
I’ve always thought about how that works in comics/lore. How tf are these supposedly ultra morally upright heroes ok with the entirety of a timeline/universe/multiverse worth of souls being wiped out. They usually barely mourn the loss if they do at all. I feel like the creators think the audience is too wrapped up in the story to think about that part lol.
@@genericsocks7542 And also, why do they even have the desire to change the past if they know its just creating a new timeline? They didnt save who they wanted to save, they saved a clone.
44:53 "No matter what we do, this world died. I tried maybe...twice to change it." Love this line, had the same energy as "We tried nothing and we're already out of options."
@@EdgieAlias Yes, exactly. The less you explain the less you can fuck it up. Back to Future did it the right way by just giving you the basic functionality of time travel and then just go with it and build the plot around it. Look what happened to Marvel. They invented this timeline thing which lead to the multiverse of which they thought would be there infinite source of stories (=money) and it became a whole mess with no stakes thus no meaning thus no entertainment and now they're screwed because nothing matters anymore in their franchise.
Thing is you can't ever know what you're doing since you will get logic and consistency problems no matter which time travel mechanism you use. Best way imo is just to stick to one of them and don't explain more than the viewer needs to understand the plot, like Back to Future did.
Time travel is tricky! I’ve decided that you either have to do a Harry Potter- everything that happened does happen but you don’t see the full picture of what happened at the time. OR… they time travel is actually going to a different universe with different outcomes so your not time traveling so much as going between universes.
I can't get over that shot of the floating Ezra Miller head with a second Ezra Miller in the background while they both stare at PS2 blob babies. It feels like fever-induced psychosis
that was the moment in the movie I said out loud “what the fuck is going on”. Cuz it had also been like a straight minute of silence up to that point while he’s running in horrible CGI speed force land and you’re just supposed to understand what is happening even though none of it makes sense
For me, stuff like power inconsistency in superhero movies falls under a category I call "grey life damage." It's a term from Street Fighter, where certain moves will cause a portion of your health bar to turn grey rather than just disappear. The grey life will slowly come back over time, so if you successfully defend yourself for a bit, it won't matter. But if you take any other damage during that time, the grey life vanishes all at once in addition to whatever normal damage you would take, and you're _way_ worse off. In other words, "grey life damage" is mistakes that _do not matter_ if the rest of the movie is good. But if the rest of the movie is bad, they are yet another thing to get annoyed by, just as real as all the other annoyances. And fuck me, does this movie have a lot of shit to get annoyed at.
I like that analogy! It's a craftsmanship issue, simple polish, that doesn't affect the structure of a story, but depending on how suspended your disbelief is, your perception of those flaws changes.
In general this is "suspension of disbelief/rule of cool" the best example is Spiderman's No Way Home stupid spell at the start, it was stupid Dr Stange wouldn't have done that but plot needed something stupid to kickstart. Yeah, I can understand changing how the speed forces works from this film/Justice League for plot conviniece/looking cool. Even tho it's complicating stuff I can accept Flash time shenanigans actually makes him go to another timeline. but when the climax of the film makes the Speed force a room for no reason, Flash 1/2 time travels to the "same" timeline and in general the plot is a mess filled with fake emotions that dont land any "because cool factor/the plot needs to happen" becomes another nail in the tomb
@ismael9914 That Dr. Strange spell would be fine if they didn't try to make it part of Peter's arc. It's the sort of mistake that only astute watchers would notice if the movie hadn't averted our attention to it... I'm not sure I'd call these suspension of disbelief, but it sounds like rule of cool. Honestly, these terms are nebulous and generally fall under mistake that would bother perfectionists but not everyone else...
How is "Zod kills Supergirl" an "inevitable intersection" when the original reality Barry left didn't even have Supergirl at all and instead had Superman breaking Zod's neck??
Playing devils advocate here but keaten batman said that "some strands run parallel" I'm guessing that means Barry hopped into a different chunk of the universe or something still stupid asf
Or, better yet, the 4 flashes jump his ass and kill him before Supergirl loses the fight. Like… maybe I can understand Kara struggling because she likely didn’t get that much practice with her powers. However, what the fuck is anyone going to go against 4 Flashes? Like, just vibrate your fist through their heart like they did to the other guy.
Not to mention… how does the knife kill her? She’s getting the same doses of sunlight that the other kryptonians are, that knife shouldn’t be able to pierce unless it’s made of kryptonite, which it isn’t. But of course, this is the spaghetti time travel movie, were we really expecting other logic to hold true?
> "It's an artistic choice that just so happens to look like it's an unfinished movie." Truer words were never spoken. I also love this: > "The movie can't be bad because I've attached my entire identity to this franchise and if it's bad that means I'm bad." You hear that? That's the mating call of the TRUE fanboi.
That first quote reminds me of when multiversus got pushback for putting purchasable lives in their PvE mode and went "oh sorry, that very intentional and predatory message and feature was actually a glitch". I wonder who was responsible for that blunder............ oh Warner Brothers again..... well then.
I’m watching this review on the 1” x 1/2” in-window player on my phone, and also not paying attention, and also my glasses are smudged, and I think it looks great!
That recorder or pan flute edit after he says he's gotta run at the speed of light (like 12:30 ish) is one of the funniest things I've seen all year. Thank you so much, I've been so fucking depressed recently and it was amazing to laugh for the first time in what feels like months.
You know what’s sad? Flashpoint is the story that got me into comics. I still love it and it holds a special place in my heart. This movie ripped literally all of my favorite elements of it out. The “bad” universe is barely different , the original it felt like everything that could have gone wrong did. Just watch the animated version if you want a great flash movie.
It's so confusing like why wouldn't they just do Flashpoint? Or just do savitar and save Flashpoint for ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE VERY FIRST FLASH MOVIE. Like yeah let's just reset the timeline like we weren't just introduced to so many characters
@@NATE-op9tqWarner executives probably thought nostalgia bait trumps cool alternate versions of characters everyone loves. I bet seeing across the spiderverse made them cope hard lmfao. And yeah seriously, Thomas Wayne Batman is crucial to the point of the story. We don’t have Barry delivering his fathers letter to Bruce at the end. Such a shame
@pajamapantsjack5874 man they didn't even introduce reverse flash. Wtf were they thinking. Is it supposed to not be Flashpoint? If they do Flashpoint, its just gonna feel like the flash 1.5 the Flashpoint cut 💀
Two major plotholes in the movie. 1. Why doesn't barry just go back in time and find out who killed his mom. 2. The corrupt flash could have easily phased into zod and taken out his heart.
Yeah on point 2 even more so. I find it hilarious that this film's core conceipt, the main driving force of the conflict, is that THE FLASH, aka probably the most OP superhero, can't figure out how to beat a bunch of dunces in spacesuits. I mean, sure, sure. Kryptonians are strong. But evil flash is literally covered in anti-Kryptonian material which disables them. And even if he wasn't, HE'S THE FLASH. They're still 1% as fast as he is. He can literally kill them all in a fraction of a second. AND THERE'S 2 OF HIM TOO. There's no way 2 Flashes wouldn't beat Zod's motley crew. Forget supergirl. Forget batman. You have 2 speedsters! Against an army with 0 ways to counter frigging speedsters!
cant believe im complimenting the cw flash show but after this movie it really is the lesser of two evils and in that the phasing WAS mainly used as a weapon to take out enemies hearts
Its impressive how they took the relatively simple and understandable time travel from flashpoint and turned into a gaint incomprehensible mess just so they could get double ezra and to cash in on multiverse shit.
Not really. They translated the nonsense. Flashpoint effectively said much the same. "When you break the sound barrier, you create a sonic boom. When you break the time barrier, you create a time boom." That was Eobard's description in Flashpoint about how Barry altered the past before his mother's death. It still didn't make any sense. A sonic boom doesn't create a reality fissure. A "time boom" just sounds like utter garbage. The issue is, as Adum says, Flash is a broken character because the comic writers just pursued the idea that he could run through time. He's no longer an actual speedster, he's just a nonsense chronokinetic who can do whatever the writers want, even if the writers don't know how to make use of him. Flashpoint was just a novelty act for DC to reboot the world yet again, before going on to reboot it 2 or 3 more times by now. People only liked it because it gave effectively an alternate version of Earth 3, except Thomas Wayne is still a mostly good Batman compared to Owlman being an evil Batman. It really wasn't a good story. Personally, I'd say the last solid story DC did was Blackest Night.
@@mallios13 I think the concept of a "time boom" is silly comic book nonsense but it still makes more sense than how they explained things in this movie, like I understand the concept of ripples through time altering reality. The comic was at least more consistent with its rules and explanations than the movie was.
@@koifish835the thing is the "time boom" can make sense in a comic universe, who the fuck cares, but they really fucked themselves by layering it on top of all the other dumb bullshit like him going back and forth and popping in front of himself but also nto popping in front of himself and also losing his powers in the lightning and not DUE to the time boom, and also stuff is so predictable that a single tomato can saves your mom but also billions of changes happen from every change... if the "backwards and forwards changes" was the ONLY idiotic, clearly incomprehensible thing they had to sell, it'd be fine lmao, cause you "need" that plot detial to explain why wonder woman or someone else doesn't just defeat the baddie. Everything else makes relative sense to things that people know in the base story, like flash doesn't save his mom w tomatoes, he just runs in and fights the dude whos gonna kill her as a blur and transports him elsewhere. no "chain of events" to break from a random tomato can.
True story: I was in 3d animation in college and we had to make a short animated movie. My group was short one person from the other groups and we were so short handed that I didn't have time to actually finish the textures for the human character so I slapped on a checkerboard pattern and tried to pass it off as intentional. The instructor was not convinced, and rightly so. I see where he's coming from, the director. But yeah, it's actually a really shitty cop out. They should have given more money and support to the vfx artists
@offcutt shit in comic books and other works of fantasy hardly ever isn’t bullshit, as long as it works in its own universal logic. This movie took what had its own logic and then fucked the logic. That's what makes it actually bullshit.
I prefer the timeline explanation from the animated movie: if you break the sound barrier, you create a sonic boom (except Flash doesn't, actually), and if you break the time barrier, you create a time boom that causes chaotic changes both forward and backward in time. That gives a much better excuse for not time-travelling to solve every problem, instead of randomly saying "nah it's fate bro".
The time boom is equally random. Nothing has to have an explanation. Everything changes because time boom (ie the writers want the world one way. Essential fate but on meta level)
@@-Azure.EXE- I think a time boom would be much more intuitive than what the movie presents. It actually draws parallels to real, well-known phenomena, instead of just saying “this person is fated to die at approximately this arbitrary window in time because spaghetti!”
It also created consequences of time travel so it can't just be used as a crutch to fix any situation, only being a fallback plan when literally everything else fails because its consequences are so dire that it's only a last resort option at best that everyone would prefer never to have to use. So trying to fix one thing giga-screws over billions other things to the point of Flashpoint paradoxing is always a terrible idea no matter what.
Hugely ballooned budget = tons of reshoots = tons of vfx work redone in way too short a time A good looking movie is often more the result of craft and time than tons of money
The more money the more pressure to succeed. The more pressure the more fear of losing the investement. The more fear the less risk are taken. Taking less risk is also less creative freedom. Less creative freedom ends up making "safe" corporate sludge.
Saw this in theaters with my boyfriend knowing it was going to be shit, at the part where his giant stupid fucking floating head appears on screen I burst out laughing uncontrollably, which had a bit of a ripple effect throughout the theater, my boyfriend ended up laughing so hard he had an asthma attack and we had to leave the movie for a good 10 minutes
I know it wasn’t brought up; but god, did I want Adum to bring up that THIS MOVIE was released as an NFT. That somehow WB looked at this movie and everything in it and said “You know what this movie needs? No, not a coherent plot. It needs to be an NFT.”
I love that their answer to saving Batman and Supes is to travel back in time and tell them to do things differently, instead of lets say, go really fast and punch Zod in the face a bunch of times. Or to phase items that would be really inconvenient for alien organs in to his organs. Or just consistently keep turning him around so supes gets free hits on him. And just tell Batman to go home for God's sake.
Well but if he did that it wouldn't be that dramatic! ... and it was way funnier this way, because the Old Flashe's armor was just all the Kryptonian metal stuck in his body. I laughed so hard at that revelation.
They don't even have to tell Batman to go home. Due to how insanely overpowered The Flash has become over the last twenty or so years, one of them could literally just grab old Bruce, drag him all way back to Wayne Manor, strip out of his Batman costume, *and* put him in bed while taking the keys for all of his vehicles before Bruce even realized what the fuck is happening and without even being gone from the fight for even a second. The Flash's level of speed is *that* dumb.
@@MusicoftheDamned I don't even understand his speed powers. Is he fast cause he can run fast or is he slowing time down around him while he can still move normally?
@@robrick9361 It used to be and should be--unless comics changed this--just the former in that he had to be running to move fast and slow down time outside of maybe his own perception, but this movie appears to be trying to have it both ways to the point that he basically is just slowing down time whenever he wants. So even the movie doesn't seem sure on what his power actually is beyond "screws with time".
I saw this movie in theatres day one because I had nothing better to do. The only other people in the theatre were four children who were running up and down the aisles, one was watching TikTok quietly but not quite enough, and one was running back and forth in front of me. I only got up once to say something to the staff, which the four kids called me a snitch out loud for. They were told three times to stop by staff, besides that I ignored them like a brick wall because I was so dedicated to through this tremendous experience of a film. The theatre ended up giving me a free ticket for any movie, so I used it to see Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny with my dad. After walking out of the movie where I could hear Harrison Ford's bones popping the entire time, I couldn't decide which experience was worse.
@@JonathanGaeta I'm being deadly serious when I say that that shot was an actual jump scare for me. I was unprepared to see Nicholas Cage in this movie and suddenly seeing him in the Superman costume with long hair for some reason just really frightened me for some reason.
I don’t see why using the Speed Force as the explanation for a fictional character who’s powers comes from a cosmic thing is a problem. Superman explanation is the sun radiation, Moon Knight explanation is the Egyptian Moon God, Black Panther explanation is the Egyptian Panther God, Spider-Man explanation is a spider bite, and Wolverine/ All Mutants explanation are their genes. Why The Flash having a simple explanation such as the Speed Force is something ppl can’t accept?
@@kingkodobigblackchewie9087"suspension of disbelief" works in mysterious ways. One moment spiderman sticks to an teflon pan and everyone is ok with a spider bite but when the next moment Flash breaks the time, space and multiple universes; suddenly Speed Force isn't enough.
@@horusreloaded6387 thank you !!!! Speaking nothing but facts. Did everyone forget what FICTIONAL in fiction means? Barry explanation for his powers are the very thing that gave him his powers. I don’t get why ppl just can’t accept the speed force.
@@kingkodobigblackchewie9087Consistency? Thats why. Otherwise the concept of stakes is practically obsolete if you can throw an deus ex machina anytime or question what even are the abilities of what the characters can even do continuously.
@@someguy198 The Flash powers had always been consistent I’ll agree and say the Flash movie was poor at showcasing what all he can do. But my problem is with ppl who act like the Speed Force is a terrible reason for why he can do what he can. It’s a source for his powers and is the reason. What’s next GL can’t have his ring and lantern be the source of his powers, or Hulk can’t have gamma radiation be the source of his powers, or Wolverine can’t have his mutant x gene be the source of his powers? It’s a stupid and dumb thing to get upset about because to them that’s not a reason. In the comics Barry rarely runs into the speed force to time travel since he had a cosmic treadmill he made to take his speed so he can run through time easily. Since he couldn’t do it whenever he wanted at first and the cosmic treadmill was his easy access to reach the speed enough to go into the speed force. And like in the comics he did it accidentally once in the movie and before in the JL movie which is constant with how speedster find out they can time travel if they aren’t learning from another speedster. Even in the DCEU his powers was constant, the only thing that wasn’t was he time travel standing still which was stupid and I’m glad they didn’t bring it back. But the time travel way in the Flash movie should’ve been erased and just had him running instead of standing still or having that sphere.
TLDR the CGI people have the capabilities to make it look good, but they’re given too little time and have to rush it. If CGI looks like it was made in a week, it probably was, to meet insane deadlines.
@@henrynelson9301 and it's baffling that Monsters, the debut film by Godzilla (2014) and Rogue One Director, Gareth Edwards, had a budget of 500,000 dollars and was a CG heavy film that had effects that were a lot better.
@@ActivistBatonVI Everything Everywhere All at Once’s VFX weren’t even done by a studio, they were made in-house by like five people working from home. It’s not necessarily a CGI heavy film, and it’s certainly not trying to be Marvel, and it just looks gorgeous.
Time and also the way it's filmed. IIRC the Black Panther move had like 2 months to finish the CG, and 90% of shots needed CG. Directors also used to take lighting and the way things were shot into consideration to make the CG process easier. Many of the current superhero movies don't.
Its really disappointing how badly the DC cinematic universe has portrayed The Flash. Most people I know LOVE The Flash as portrayed in the comics and in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon. He has a surprising amount of emotional maturity for a character who often is put into the comic relief role. That emotional maturity is what I think most people like about him. Most other heroes when you ask what makes them the best, people will think of just, examples of them being really powerful or clever. For the Flash though, common moments people remember about him are things like... Chasing a dimension hopping supervillain to the end of the universe... To get a child's lollypop back. Learning construction at super speed to rebuild an apartment that had caught on fire so that the people who lived there wouldn't become homeless. Talking a super villain into getting back on his meds and promising to visit him at the hospital to hang out if he turns himself in. There was one story where a villain mentions The Flash is the worst hero to fight, because most will just beat you up and drop you off at a jail. Flash will TALK to you and make you feel bad about not doing something better with your life. Ezra does not convey that at all. Ezra would be someone the Flash would have to have a talk with.
Funny thing, that's Wally West in Justice League(2001) and unlimited (2003) Don't get me wrong Wally's an absolutely great character, and to be honest he should get so much more screen time than Barry Allen. Villains actually talk about how much more they like Wally over Barry Allen who they described as a stick in the mud. What happened was when DC was writing Justice League they decided to just give Wally West Barry Allen's backstory instead, since Wally is just so much more charismatic especially for an all audiences kids show. The Justice League(2001)'s Flash is the kind of guy who'd go out of his way to run to Japan just to get a Christmas present to kids at a group home. Then when the toy's broken in a fight, he didn't care if he was killed, the thought of disappointing the kids mattered more to him. He unintentionally appealed to the morality of the guy he was fighting against, and they rebuilt the toy for the kids together.
Either way, Wally or Barry both versions of the flash have emphasis on their humanity and empathy. That's the main pillars of their characters. It's why as soon as I heard this film would be flashpoint, I stopped giving a shit, because flashpoint is a gritty, edgy, fun house world comic first and a flash exploration second. Barry is canonically loved by Central City because of the work he does. He remembers the names of the cops he talks to and the citizens he saves. He talks to his villains and tries to help people above everything else. That's why he's such a success. Snyder verse has a long, ugly trend of missing what heroes are about. Superman's struggle isn't being a god among humans, it's being a human with the powers of a god that he has to actively hold back at all times. Batman doesn't fucking kill people, he protects everyone; even when they deserve death, he spares them, because he never wants to cause someone the same grief that crippled him. This film is garbage and I cannot thank Adam enough for watching it so I don't have to
This. This is why the Flash was and will forever be my favorite superhero. Specifically Wally West, because he's the Flash I grew up with, the Flash that I love because of his humanity, his personality, and just how fun of a character he is. I cannot thank the Justice League and JLU cartoons enough for giving me my favorite hero. I just wish other pieces of DC media would take Wally into consideration, pasting his traits onto Barry instead, and why I feel he isn't really written well in the comics anymore. Yes, I'm talking about Identity Crisis and how he killed people. I cannot remember the specific reason why, all I remember is that it rubbed me the wrong way.
That Supergirl 180 was one of the movie's worst parts. She didn't see a baby that reminded her of Kal El? She didn't see kids playing, which reminded her of life on her planet. She didn't see firefighters rescuing someone, proving that there are people who care enough about others to put their lives on the line, as Kal El's father did by getting her and his son off the planet? She sees Zod and..?
You know, it's funny but in the animated movie Flashpoint (and likely the original comic), the scene where Barry tries to get his powers back is such a heart-wrenching scene because it shows just how improbably it is for him to have gotten them in the first place, while also highlighting his desperation to get them to fix everything. Point is, that's a better Flashpoint movie than this one.
Yes! I agree so much! Like, I have no idea why they didn't just stick more closely to the flashpoint story? Not talking in the sense of 'it needs to be like the comics' No. In the sense that the og rules of the time travel and flash's powers in flashpoint actually makes more sense and, unlike this movie, doesn't give me a headache...
The animated movie is basically just the og comic, but with very few minor changes, like the way Thomas kills Thawne. In the og comic, Thawne gets a sword run through him by Thomas, unlike the movie where we get an incredible shot of Thomas capping Thawne in the head.
@@crimsondynamo615 Yup, now if only each of the animated movies was minutes longer. I love those movies, but the vast majority of them are horribly paced.
THIS is the defining moment in Nathan Fielder's movie career and I for one am proud of him. As the great AQUA once said: Come on Barbie, let's go party.
Nathan Fielder finally deserves to be on the big screen. It's a shame he didn't direct it himself ,because then it would be a masterpiece... like everything else he ever made.
Naw go back in time and make sure the traditional thanksgiving meal is a combination of horse, dog, cat, and endangered whale species. Also turkey becomes a mandatory side and all 50 states pass a law that if you do not eat every portion of DELICIOUS animal flesh, you will be publicly sodomized.
It's funnier when you think about how the older Flash 2 who repeatedly tried to change the past would have to stop and go to the grocery store and have a snack multiple times to avoid running out of energy.
"This is an inevitable intersection!" Says Barry from a timeline/universe/whatever where THIS DID NOT HAPPEN, and should therefore know that this is not inevitable. "But moving the can of tomatoes made it inevitable," I can hear someone say, and that I need to point out how stupid that sounds shows how broken that thought process for the tomato can was. Oh good lord I just realized this entire movie is an overlong explanation of the phrase, "opening a can of tomatoes."
It's also a big fault of the movie for not being able to explain everything the Flash can do. Even the animated Flashpoint Movie took a little bit of time to reestablish what Flash was capable of so audiences don't get confused.
Given Flash's evolution in comics, he can do whatever the writers want now. "He can beat all the everything at once because Speedforce, but he chooses not to because that is what a hero does."
@@mallios13That's just sorta the problem with comics. Comic book power creep is a real thing. They just have everyone doing the most insane shit because in response to the opposition's previously bonkers feats, to the point where things get so loony you don't even care
@@grunkleg.2934 - Yeah, what's gross about it is that no one really expects all of the comics to be consistent with *each other*; but literally any comic can be used as a touchstone to explain away something incoherent in the movie. You can pretty much just do what you want as long as you get the goofy-ass costume right, and there'll be a comic that says it's okay and an army of fanboys to tell everyone that on your behalf.
Ezra’s mouth is open for 99% of the movie. I can only conclude that it is part of Berrys character and he keeps it open to feed on bugs that he runs through for extra protein
Like Adam said, he was probably good in Afterschool too. Also of note was that Jeremy Allen White was also in that movie, and he later played the main character of The Bear, a TV show which is a better use of your time.
I think the worst thing about that big fight scene is that its in a completely flat empty field, literally the most boring setting you could possibly have for a fight scene. All the best fight scenes utilize the immediate environment.
I couldn’t help but notice that while watching this review. Where the fuck is this insanely important battle of the times taking place, out in a desert in Arizona? At least the DC heroes were kind enough to finally realize that the pure carnage of their fights in big cities simply wasn’t worth it
At some point during Adum's explanation of one of the "Time Bowl" scenes or whatever, my eyes glazed over and I physically couldn't focus on it. I can only imagine watching it unfold in the movie would've been actual sensory torture.
"People will forget all that." I love how this one phrase and everybody's reaction to it can be applied to a lot of things that are going on in Hollywood right now.
It's funny cuz the original comic this movie was based on, The Flashpoint Paradox, has a much simpler and easier to understand time travel logic. It's one timeline, Flash saves his mom and wakes up in modern day in the new timeline he created. But everything is fucked with Aquaman and Wonder Woman being villains and going to war, Batman being Bruce's father instead, and Superman being kidnapped by the government when he arrived on Earth. The reason all of these changes happened was because in the same way breaking the sound barrier creates a sonic boom, breaking the time barrier (LOL) creates a "time boom" which distorts events in the timeline just a tad but enough to create drastic changes. By the end of the story, the world is basically being nuked and now Flash has to stop himself from saving his mom because by preventing his mom's salvation he prevents this fucked up future from happening and saves the world. Also, the reason he doesn't have powers in the original story isn't because he "undid it", but because in the new timeline he never got powers. Are there still logical holes in the time travel logic? Sure, but compared to the amount in this movie it's not even close. How do you fuck up something literally pre-written for you?
i love how it happens in the animated movie...like aquaman just couldn't resist that wonder woman pussy and then his wife sees and ww kills her and they go to war lmfao
It is incredibly hard to make completely logical time travel movies. Spoilers Below! 12 Monkeys does it, but by it being a time loop. Basically most consistent and logical time travel stories have to essentially be time loops, otherwise you end up with paradoxes, illogical stuff, etc.
@@SioxerNikitaYeah, time loops are pretty much the only way to make time travel somewhat logical, because with that premise the present has already accounted for any changes a time traveller may make in the past.
14:25 Jesus, people aren't exaggerating when they say the CGI looks like its from a PS3 game. Also Flash has always been the most broken DC character and thats counting Superman punching reality and grabbing black hole in his hand. One Flash stunt involved a train about to drive into a broken bridge, so Flash runs into a library, reads hundreds of engineering books in a millisecond then progressively builds the bridge under the train as the train is passing through the broken bridge.
Yeah no that's a lot more clever and funny than just letting the kid time travel with such arbitrary rules and limitations. It's still thematically well within "guy go fast" without having to grossly misapply quantum physics.
Yeah I always found characters like the Flash work best when the writers fully embrace how comically overpowered the character is and just do the most wacky and insane shit with it Lmao
@@impcityangel3245honestly that's the appeal of the flash. He has these really goofy street level villains and then COSMIC REALITY SHIFTING. no in between
it’s so funny/repulsive how WB definitely had some Pinkertons murder like 6 people to make sure this movie could be released & their star wouldn’t be in jail
This review was dripping old school YMS review energy and I was living (while Barry’s mom was dying). Rare to get a fully edited breakdown YMS review these days! Time to go rewatch the Amusement and Frozen reviews
This is the movie that made me realize how goddamn sick of multiverses I am now. At this point they're just exhausting to follow and so overdone. My eyes rolled so hard when the universes started colliding or whatever. I am begging for just a normal superhero movie with no time travel, no multiverse, and no tongue in cheek references to other franchises.
Or, if you’re at least GOING to do multiverse stories or stories that have elements of the multiverse, make them compelling. Everything Everywhere All At Once was a fantastic multiverse story because it used the multiverse as a vehicle to explore characters, enhance the plot, and enhance the humour. The Spider-Verse movies also work because they use the multiverse to contrast between different heroes and challenge pre-conceived Spider-Man tropes. The MCU and DCCU movies that use the multiverse or have multiverse elements in them don’t work as well because they mostly use them as either window dressing (Multiverse of Madness, GotG3) or fanservice (No Way Home, The Flash, and also MoM in a way). But otherwise yeah, I would love a normal superhero movie with none of the multiversal bells and whistles.
It's an inherently nihilistic and illogical concept that only works when it's not being taken *too* seriously (like Everything Everywhere All At Once or the Spider-Verse movies) or just done for laughs (like Rick & Morty).
When Endgame was coming up I remember talking to my friend about how much it was going to absolutely ruin Marvel. Which is a film franchise I was already not very fond of. As soon as you bring in Multiverses, nothing can really matter, and plot conveniences can happen because Multiverses.
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I... I misread this as something more...unhinged.
I was hoping for this review to compare the film with the older 2013 version (Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox), which not only was better written than this movie but also actually follows the soruce material from the book
Love the comeback of the long form content Adam.
But ..Grant Gustin is...Amazing for that Shit.
I love that the writers thought the audience wouldn't be able to understand the concept that Barry can run low on energy if he doesn't eat and decided to add the smart watch meter thing, meanwhile the writers of Paul Blart Mall Cop granted the audience enough trust that they'd understand he runs out of energy when his blood sugar is low.
Imagine being outdone as a storyteller by the writers of Paul Blart Mall Cop
Paul Blart is cinematic genius. Look up the Blart side of the moon if you don't believe me. You're welcome.
This proves that paul blart mall cop fans are smarter than the flash fans
Doesn't Paul Blart: Mall Cop, actually spend MORE screentime establishing a link between food calories and bodily energy?
That scene where he dramatically eats the lollipop off the ground is seared into my mind
I want to clear some misconception:
330 million dollar is Ezra Miller's bail money.
The CGI team budget is a pack of peanuts and a can of coke at a room temperature.
Coke was fake too Ezra swapped it with his piss.
😂 no straw.
@@MrTidx90 paper straw that dissolves in 15 seconds
"Can we put the coke in a fridg-"
"No"
I don’t think disorderly conduct coasted then $300 million
Christian Bale refusing to be in this movie will always make me happy
Thank goodness!
Instead, he was in Thor Love and Thunder lol
@@CelestialDraconis At least he was generally considered the best part of that trash fire.
@@TheHolySemiColon That's still better than not being the usual lineup for Nolan's films. Come to think, Bale hasn't been in much movies and TV series in recent years.
What are you talking about he's one of the most popular highest paid actors literally in the world?@@thientuongnguyen2564
I shed a CGI tear when Batman said "you're gonna be a gay baby"
My favorite part of the movie
The only good part@@HE13272326
Unh...mmn...enh...HEY
Maybe next time..
Imagine being however patient it is to enter a trillion passwords and giving up and deciding your mom has to die after two tries.
That was actually the other Barry, who's apparently way more patient, doing a quadrillion password and not trying to give up while the main Barry just gave up
@@hamclamcampThat's....I'll give them credit for that setup.
@@improvwithlions4173 unintentional for sure, but it technically exists
@@hamclamcampthere’s an interesting plot in there somewhere.
Also, wouldn’t a normal person go insane typing that many passwords into a computer just to find the right one? I usually get frustrated around the fifth try. And how come a highly sophisticated military computer doesn’t have an auto lock after too many tries? It’s just one scene but it already generates a buttload of inconsistencies.
My heart goes out to all the VFX artists who almost certainly crunched over this piece of garbage, you deserve better
This film taught me don't blame the employee blame the boss who gave the employee impossible tasks and limited deadlines on top of having to work with and in a way under Ezra Miller.
@@adrianschroeder2798 I mean it's pretty much always like that in big corpos
The VFX artists can still be bad
thank GOD that VFX workers are moving to unionize now
corporate losers get swept
@@sexylazercatwizard I don't think they would hire bad VFX artists, outsource at best (or worst?)
The director really used the "Oh that? That's just my art style" excuse but on a multi million dollar movie.
So _true_ and your pfp makes your comment help cement your opinion so much
fr he really just went "it's a feature"
I'm sure when he turned in his homework late and half-finished, he'd say, "That's just my study style!"
That's my committee's art style.
It's the same thing with Synder. "Oh that? I like inept depressing Superman and Batman killing criminals. Got any problem?" I guess at the very least you can overlook the art style if you like the story enough. The same cannot be said with the core narratives.
Every CG tear in this movie is a cry for help from an animator who worked on this film
They did a bad job, they should be crying out of shame 😂
@@Grim-mler Looks like your ignorant of the actual problems that animators face these days. 'They did a bad job' doesn't cut it in the slightest.
Wouldn't it have been cheaper to use real tears on set?
@@AudibleMelancholy They used CG tears because Ezra Miller doesn't know how to act.
Crazy how Reverse Flash swapped the entire movie with a much worse one while none of us were looking.
Damn you, Thawne!
@@MrNickPresley *THONG
It was me, Adam. I went back and wrote the line "wait, he's Batman??" into the script.
Reverse Flash travelled back in time and planted evidence against Ezra Miller, that's insane.
IT WAS ME BARRY
The director saying the bad effects were intentional is literally on the same level as Todd Howard saying "It's not a bug, it's a feature".
To be fair, a bug can be a feature.
Shitty graphics in a major AAA Hollywood superhero movie cannot be excused.
"Everything just works"
the difference is we love the bugs in bethesda games
"It just works"
I’m surprised adam didn’t bring up MCU Secret Invasion doing the same thing in that AI supposedly looks like the Skrulls.
The fact that DC hailed this as their "No Way Home" will never stop making me laugh to this day
no way home is no better than this, no logic at all what do you want?
@@whoshoo No Way Home is better than this by a mile, because it actually respects its characters and uses its nostalgia to service the story, not act as pandering like The Flash does
@@whoshoo cope
@@whoshooL take
@@whoshoo Get your head out of the sand and look around. Rewatch The Flash, then Rewatch No Way Home and see if you can honestly come to the same conclusion.
"This is the film equivalent of sewing a bunch of dead bodies together and passing it off as a living human being."
Has anyone pointed out yet that the black and white CG Superman cameo is George Reeves, who many believe committed suicide because he couldn't find a successful role outside of Superman and eventually began to resent the character? It was either that or murder and, either way, he has no living relatives or an estate that could sign off on this cameo in a movie released on the 64th anniversary of his death.
Dumbsville did, he even showed what Kevin Smith had to say about it. "When I'm fucking dead, you can literally do anything." It's messed up that they did that AND the fact people can defend such a thing.
Hell, he even brought up how both this and the Chip and Dale Movie made profit off of someone who was royally screwed over by their roles many years ago, just for some cheap story or cameo.
Funny enough, Ben Affleck played George Reeves in a film called "Hollywoodland" which dealt with his post superman career and mysterious death.
In love with the fact that the movie implicitly acts like Barry’s mom just died naturally and no one is actually responsible for it and it’s not worth it for Barry to view her death through time (without disrupting the timeline) and see who actually killed her and free his dad that way.
another mistake by adaptation because in flashpoint (and the tv show) the killer was zoom aka the reverse flash aka the main villain of the movie, he also searched for the killer but of course since it was a time travelling speedster that were no proof at all
@@ironmaster6496 as an outsider from the fandom who just wanted to see ezra miller roasted, the more i think about this movie the more im fully convinced an AI wrote this script or at least the outline of the movie bc it makes no sense at all
@@ironmaster6496yea but that whole Zoom reverse flash thing was always cheap.
His reasoning was garbage.
@@alimica Sadly, I think an AI might have been better as at least they could have instantly said, "hey, this part violates the rules you wrote back here" and the AI would actually attempt to fix it vs. the real screenwriter who simply could not be bothered.
This movie went through a multitude of rewrites, by the way. One of them was done by Grant Morrison - ya know, the guy who wrote All Star Superman, considered to be one of the best comic book writers in the industry and author of the best Superman comic ever. Yeah, the studio just vetoed that one out of the gate even when the insane deadline was met. Even worse, Ezra Miller was the one that got that rewrite done to begin with - the one good idea they had since it was obvious this movie always had problems.
They'd have to acknowledge Reverse Flash and they wanna save that idea for another shitty movie nobody will go watch. Flash 2: Flashpoint
Angry adum is just so nostalgic
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Who says the art of the angry review is dead.
My favorite part of the movie was when flash looked at the camera and said "its flashin time!" And was arrested for indecent exposure.
How is this joke still working on me lol but i love it every time
he flashed something alright
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426You have zoomer brain rot
That... Would've been a great twist! Barry was schizophrenic and hallucinating he was a superhero bc Superman's death triggered it. Better than the movie we got
this is literally the only funny version of this joke that i've ever seen, even though its posted at least 5 times under every youtube video
Barry 1 should have been the villain of this movie, considering how Barry 1 was the one who abused his power in the first place and gave up easily while Barry 2 was the one who kept trying to do the right thing million times over.
You're expecting the filmmakers could still differentiate 'good' and 'bad' while they still cast Ezra Miller in this
I think the worst part is that Barry 1 gave up so fucking quickly when he didn’t have to.
In Flashpoint, which also features a plot where the Flash saving his mother causes major differences in the timelines, the reason why Barry can’t just go back in time and keep on resetting is because, as a character put it, “Break the sound barrier, make a sonic boom. Break the time barrier, make a time boom”, which basically means that a lot of points in history have changed slightly that eventually goes so out of control that there are massive differences. Superman doesn’t land in the same place, Bruce dies instead of his parents, and so on.
This means that Barry can’t just keep going back and changing the timeline to get his perfect timeline. Meanwhile, in this movies no such rule is ever established and there isn’t an in character reason for him to just not keep on trying instead of standing there and doing nothing while Barry 2 does his thing.
Like, the Flash should never just give up like that. These are still people and have lives. Flashpoint basically forced Barry into letting his mother die because it was that or everyone dies.
Meanwhile, this Barry is like, “Damn, I failed twice, I have to let my mom die now I guess.”
Reverse Flash should have been the main villain!
@@Redbird-dh7muIf that’s true then how could you fix that at all? Stopping yourself from going back in time wouldn’t fix anything. Flash still broke the “time barrier” to stop himself from saving his mom, so everything should still be wildly different when he returns. It’s made-up comic book nonsense to justify why Flash can’t just go back in time ALL the time.
@@MT-iw6sl to try to explain it in an odd timey way, I think they aimed for Flash stopping his past self from breaking the time barrier, therefore, stopping it from being broken at all.
Time in DC is very odd and doesn’t always make sense. It isn’t very consistent all the time. Sometimes, Reverse Flash isn’t impacted by timeline changes, other times, he is.
I appreciate you hammering on the "turn your brain off" excuse people give. Not every movie needs to be a masterpiece, but corporate copy-pasted schlock like this needs to be condemned.
Especially with how much money is in it, hundreds of millions of dollars for a generic boring uninspired meh piece. Waste of time, resources, everything. How many small, new movies could have gotten made?
Yeah the same kind of people who constantly whine about that are the same people who think slurs and discrimination in real life is acceptable. They are weak and their legacy will serve as an example of social Darwinism for many years.
Exactly!
Right?! There are plenty of "turn your brain off" movies that are creative & written well.
I don't believe in that. People who say they turn their brains off and enjoy the movie have never had it turned on in the first time.
It is quite amazing that DC has had the worst foundation to a cinematic universe and their solution is just to keep going with it.
If all you're good at is tripping up stairs, you milk that for all you can.
the fact that they keep this running universe on life support while the self-contained DC movies do huge numbers makes no sense to me.
if they get infinite monkeys to write infinite franchise reboots eventually they will beat marvel
I dunno, I’d say Mummy 2017 was worse.
They desperately need to hit the restart button. Recast everyone, and start again, but do it right this time
It's comforting to know that more people will watch this review than people who saw the movie in theaters.
Things like this reaffirm my faith in cinema loving audiences
I'm one of them. So glad this review exists so I don't have to watch this movie.
I saw the movie in theater and on HBO yesterday.
My wife and i still enjoyed it.
Ezra gets a bad rep from his IRL actions but the movie is entertaining- and funny at moments.
"bad rep" is kind of an understatement. Guy's a downright criminal
I literally saw this movie for 50 cents
the "calorie smartwatch" thing bothers me so much, like all they had to do was have him act and look exhausted after doing the super stuff, then have him say like "i really gotta remember to eat before doing this stuff..."
that's IT, that's ALL you need
Why even say anything? He does some heroics, comes out of superspeed huffing and clearly winded. Flash looks off screen, takes off again at superspeed, smash cut to him stuffing his face at a Schwarma place or something.
See. You both are correct. And it makes me laugh how much smarter these options are than just “WHUH-OH, MY FITBIT IS TELLING ME TO CONSUME”
I find it hilarious how the Flash successfully trying every single password in such a small time window implies that all you need to do to make a computer run faster is just type really fast
The worst part is the speed force can be infused into objects...making them faster.
Yeah, that’s always been super weird to me because like… only Flash can go that fast, not the bloody computer! Computers buffer and stutter and need time to process the inputs given. Flash could only go as fast the computer is capable of processing the keyboard inputs.
If the flash were doctor strange or faust this would make sense
He’d rather go through millions of potential combinations in normal time than try to save the universe
Also, this computer doesn’t lock out after too many failed attempts?
My wife and I laughed so hard at the CGI baby’s that we cried. I can’t believe that was an actual movie. Warner put millions of dollars into this.
A couple that laughs at CGI babies together stays together
Everyone clapped. Obama was there.
*Hundreds of millions
@@glenda.mcclean someone wipe away my cgi tears
Plural of baby is babies.
I love that they tried to hype up audiences by being like "look keaton batman is back" but then the audiences got there and the movie said keaton batman lives in a doomed timeline and that he dies in pain because of ezra miller
Another crime Ezra Miller must pay for
Right? Hilariously too, DC & WB pulled an equally outrageous bait & switch with Joker 2 - getting Joker fanboys hyped for a follow-up film where Fleck might truly ascend to his status as the Clown Prince of Crime only for the film to completely strip Fleck of even the slightest hint of style, competence or intriguing mania and instead out him as a substance-less empty pathetic loser only fit to disgrace himself publicly, get cruelly violated/abused, betrayed and abandoned by Harley aka the only person willing to be intimate with him on any level and then finally ultimately die alone - painfully & pitifully in obscurity
boy it sure was a decision to have supergirl die "inevitably" during the fight with zod even with the support of three other superheros. meanwhile superman was able to solo zod with limited injury. what a great story!
Gee, that’s a convenient coincidence
Supergirl hadn't been soaking up sunlight and adapting to Earth's environment for 33 years like Clark
AND they show us her many varying deaths over and over. How fun! Why’d they do that I wonder!
@@NobleRaider2747 On top of that, it looked like she was soaked in red sunlight while she was imprisoned.
@@Lishadra did barry 1 ever try to save supergirl in the movie or naw? did they just try once with batman and barry 1 was like "sigh guess there's no avoiding it"
i'm surprised barry 2 didn't kick the shit out of barry 1 for being useless tbh
The time travel concept in Xavier Renegade Angel (caveman episode) made more sense. "Every cigarette takes 17 minutes off of your life, every slice of bacon takes 9 minutes. If ya smoke and eat bacon fast enough, you can go back in time"
A friend of mine tried that once and I actually saw them go back in time. Freaking sweet.
@@HOTD108_did he come back?
What are you? Some kind of Chinaman?
@@Spit1990
TAKE THA-TASTE THE PAIN!
If you go back in time can you get me some pop tarts when they had actual filling. Thanks in advance
Nice to see Hollywood finally catching up to Neil Breen. It's all here--nonsense plot, gratuitous running, poignant death scene, explaining time paradoxes with floppy props, actor playing against self, godlike powers, awesome special effects...
Andy Muschetti wishes he was as good of a director as Neil Breen
But where are the abused laptops thou?
Neil Breen was truly ahead of the curb.
@@ButterFlyNeko88 release the Muschetti cut!
@@ButterFlyNeko88 when Barry put every possible password at the same tme
If he went further back in time and showed his mom Derek Savage's Self Defense for Women then none of this would've been necessary 😭
Only tackle and grapple would save her
If he'd shown her Savage's Playgirl spread, he could've had Derek Savage for a father! (Knowing DC, that's precisely how they think time travel works)
Or cool cat saves the kids
@@chaotic-doxxerButch the Bully killed The Flash's mom
@@roosterboots4684 of course so now we just have to scream “leave us alone right now”
it's hilarious that Ezra's immediate response to someone dying is to frantically finger grope them
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"I've tried like twice to save it and this world is going to die" truly a superhero story for our world leaders.
Such an inspiration to our children, truly someone to look up to.
The movie we need now.
"See this other Flash trying desperarely to save, not only his family, but the entire planet, while hes going through extreme pain every attempt he does? He is the bad guy"
No seriously wtf were they thinking?!
This movie was so good that world leaders used it to plan their climate change policy
“We’ve tried nothin and we’re all out of ideas!”
I love that Robert Zemeckis’ Polar Express technology got dusted off for these incredible effects. I was worried we would never see that flawless art ever again
The dust they dusted of it was a dusting of cocoa powder from the hot hot hot, HOT CHOCOLATE!
@@BK-ku1zt I love you for making that reference and hate myself for getting it.
Don’t slander Polar Express like that
Mobamba
whats the reference@@Dargonhuman
Imagine having a criminal play a superhero and not a villain
Amber Heard also right?
It's a Batman Bin Suparman situation. A Filipino (i think) man who is a career criminal.
You mean Iron Man? That guy who played Iron Man was a drug addict and yet everyone loves it. Oopsss.
@@nont18411 "Downey's wife Susan Downey (née Levin) told Harper's Bazaar that he quit drugs for good in 2003 after she gave him an ultimatum". Now what you gonna do? cry? oh noo don't cry baby
Somebody doing drugs... in Hollywood? Tell me it ain't so!@@nont18411
If Adum ever had a roommate all he would hear is Adum screaming “ *YOU **_SNEAKY_** BOY* “
“ *JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF* “
“ THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS MOM’S SPAGHETTI “
“ w a i t h e ‘ s b a t m a n..? “
My biggest problem I've always had with this version of The Flash is Ezra Miller's running animation. Like NO TOLD EZRA TO RUN LIKE A PERSON?! Run like a HUMAN person!
Still not sure if this is worse than Wonder Galdot just gliding when she's supposed to use superspeed.
i'm glad i'm not the only one who thought that, lol.
seriously me and my friends were losing it because none of us saw Justice League i guess and we were all *shocked* by Ezra Miller’s run cycle. I think it’s supposed to look like he’s slicing through the air which could maybe work but it looks fuking ridiculous
If memory serves, the idea was to envision how running would look if there was no wind resistance, because Speedforce negates that resistance.
It still looks stupid, but at least they tried something close to clever.
He was running like how a criminal would
You know it’s gonna be good when Adam is already yelling at the 0:20 mark.
I’d love to see him scream as loud as he can. Kinda like loltyler1
I feel like Adam has had long term damage from Death Note. He's got less patience for the bullshit and I'm good with it.
More like he did cocaine before recording this. I've been watching his vids for years and I've never heard him so extra
@@tristan8539 Space Jam 2 review.
The satisfying thing is that his yelling is 100% justified and mirrors our frustration with lying pieces of shits in the industry.
Fun fact: “people will forget their crimes” refers to the original plan for Ezra Miller to be present at the early screening with a men in black neuralyzer
@@deanjustdean7818they were making a joke...
@@deanjustdean7818 - They will if Ezra Miller neuralyzes them.
@@WolfanTerrori dont think they were criticizing the joke, just making a comment based on the real situation
Now that you said that, are blind people immune to the neuralyzer? How do they deal with that?
@@deanjustdean7818most trans are as bad
Always wanting to involve themselves with children
21:34 Whoever told Ezra to run like this is a comedic genius.
Are his shoes banana peels tf lmao 🤣
they just told him to run funny.
My guess it was supposed to fit in with how VFX portray his run...but they just can't sell it, huh?
@@axelwust9376But why do the VFX portray his run that way in the first place? I never understood why this Flash never runs like a human being.
@@NickJerrison Dash from The Incredibles is one of my favorite speedsters for this reason. Those legs are shmmovin
Not to mention, when you set up a time travel movie where the characters jump from universe to universe, they become incredibly selfish. Flash just ditches his original timeline and all of the people in it. Their flash is gone, never to return, and he wont be there to help save them from future catastropies. Flashes original mom is still dead too. He just became a squatter in a universe where another version of her is still alive. Is flash so sociopathic that inhabiting a universe filled with copies of his friends that have had different life experiences is ok? Thats unironically how Rick Sanchez acts.
I'm pretty sure that if Rick and Morty existed in the DC universe, This Flash would be one of those super obnoxious fans who idolise Rick, so I personally think that, character consistency wise, it fits
The only great time travel movie in my opinion is Back to the Future.
@@ThomasMBlank Just wanted to pop in and say, about that... in Justice League, either cut, the scene where Bruce meets Barry, guess what's glimpsed on one of the monitors in the background? So the show exists in the DC verse. Whether that influenced Barry's choice in this, I dunno, but it's a bit hilarious that it's actually possible!
I’ve always thought about how that works in comics/lore. How tf are these supposedly ultra morally upright heroes ok with the entirety of a timeline/universe/multiverse worth of souls being wiped out. They usually barely mourn the loss if they do at all.
I feel like the creators think the audience is too wrapped up in the story to think about that part lol.
@@genericsocks7542 And also, why do they even have the desire to change the past if they know its just creating a new timeline? They didnt save who they wanted to save, they saved a clone.
44:53 "No matter what we do, this world died. I tried maybe...twice to change it."
Love this line, had the same energy as "We tried nothing and we're already out of options."
54:18
“The whole universe is mom’s spaghetti!”
Please keep philosophy out of movie reviews.
This movie is an excellent example of why you should NOT have time travel in your story unless you know exactly what you are doing.
Not even! If you don't know what you're doing, DON'T TRY TO EXPLAIN THE THING THAT MAKES IT FICTION IN THE FIRST PLACE.
THAT'S ALL YOU HAVE TO DO.
@@EdgieAlias Yes, exactly. The less you explain the less you can fuck it up. Back to Future did it the right way by just giving you the basic functionality of time travel and then just go with it and build the plot around it.
Look what happened to Marvel. They invented this timeline thing which lead to the multiverse of which they thought would be there infinite source of stories (=money) and it became a whole mess with no stakes thus no meaning thus no entertainment and now they're screwed because nothing matters anymore in their franchise.
Thing is you can't ever know what you're doing since you will get logic and consistency problems no matter which time travel mechanism you use. Best way imo is just to stick to one of them and don't explain more than the viewer needs to understand the plot, like Back to Future did.
Time travel is tricky! I’ve decided that you either have to do a Harry Potter- everything that happened does happen but you don’t see the full picture of what happened at the time. OR… they time travel is actually going to a different universe with different outcomes so your not time traveling so much as going between universes.
The easiest option is to only allow travel to the future. That would prevent paradoxes
When the Flash cries while slowing down time, shouldn't his tear fall really slow?
Yeah! But eh, fuck consistency.
Also, hello! Love your content dude.
Maybe they count as part of him?
his superhuman tear ducts are firing the tears out at near light speed
@@NiLowther attosecond
PossumReviews! Fancy seeing you here! 😄
I can't get over that shot of the floating Ezra Miller head with a second Ezra Miller in the background while they both stare at PS2 blob babies. It feels like fever-induced psychosis
Maybe that is Ezra Miller’s PoV whenever he goes to Hawaii
It’s straight out of Twin Peaks season 3
that was the moment in the movie I said out loud “what the fuck is going on”. Cuz it had also been like a straight minute of silence up to that point while he’s running in horrible CGI speed force land and you’re just supposed to understand what is happening even though none of it makes sense
These Aphex Twin music videos are getting out of hand, huh?
For me, stuff like power inconsistency in superhero movies falls under a category I call "grey life damage." It's a term from Street Fighter, where certain moves will cause a portion of your health bar to turn grey rather than just disappear. The grey life will slowly come back over time, so if you successfully defend yourself for a bit, it won't matter. But if you take any other damage during that time, the grey life vanishes all at once in addition to whatever normal damage you would take, and you're _way_ worse off.
In other words, "grey life damage" is mistakes that _do not matter_ if the rest of the movie is good. But if the rest of the movie is bad, they are yet another thing to get annoyed by, just as real as all the other annoyances. And fuck me, does this movie have a lot of shit to get annoyed at.
I like that analogy! It's a craftsmanship issue, simple polish, that doesn't affect the structure of a story, but depending on how suspended your disbelief is, your perception of those flaws changes.
So you are telling me that the director did a empty jump into Zangief's lvl3 to my enjoyment of the movie?
In general this is "suspension of disbelief/rule of cool" the best example is Spiderman's No Way Home stupid spell at the start, it was stupid Dr Stange wouldn't have done that but plot needed something stupid to kickstart.
Yeah, I can understand changing how the speed forces works from this film/Justice League for plot conviniece/looking cool.
Even tho it's complicating stuff I can accept Flash time shenanigans actually makes him go to another timeline.
but when the climax of the film makes the Speed force a room for no reason, Flash 1/2 time travels to the "same" timeline and in general the plot is a mess filled with fake emotions that dont land any "because cool factor/the plot needs to happen" becomes another nail in the tomb
@ismael9914 That Dr. Strange spell would be fine if they didn't try to make it part of Peter's arc. It's the sort of mistake that only astute watchers would notice if the movie hadn't averted our attention to it...
I'm not sure I'd call these suspension of disbelief, but it sounds like rule of cool. Honestly, these terms are nebulous and generally fall under mistake that would bother perfectionists but not everyone else...
Dude, I love this. That's a perfect way of putting it.
How is "Zod kills Supergirl" an "inevitable intersection" when the original reality Barry left didn't even have Supergirl at all and instead had Superman breaking Zod's neck??
Playing devils advocate here but keaten batman said that "some strands run parallel" I'm guessing that means Barry hopped into a different chunk of the universe or something still stupid asf
Its an "inevitable intersection" because thats what the writers wrote, you see.
@@fungamesandstuffwhy2516 why couldn't he just hop to a chunk where his mom lives and superman kills zod??? seems a bit silly really
Or, better yet, the 4 flashes jump his ass and kill him before Supergirl loses the fight.
Like… maybe I can understand Kara struggling because she likely didn’t get that much practice with her powers. However, what the fuck is anyone going to go against 4 Flashes? Like, just vibrate your fist through their heart like they did to the other guy.
Not to mention… how does the knife kill her? She’s getting the same doses of sunlight that the other kryptonians are, that knife shouldn’t be able to pierce unless it’s made of kryptonite, which it isn’t. But of course, this is the spaghetti time travel movie, were we really expecting other logic to hold true?
> "It's an artistic choice that just so happens to look like it's an unfinished movie."
Truer words were never spoken. I also love this:
> "The movie can't be bad because I've attached my entire identity to this franchise and if it's bad that means I'm bad."
You hear that? That's the mating call of the TRUE fanboi.
That first quote reminds me of when multiversus got pushback for putting purchasable lives in their PvE mode and went "oh sorry, that very intentional and predatory message and feature was actually a glitch". I wonder who was responsible for that blunder............ oh Warner Brothers again..... well then.
The Flash movie in fact did not make me forget Ezra Miller's crimes.
Same
If anything, it added another one to the list.
@@hawkemesayeah big time. Its easily the worst movie ive seen in the past couple years
It did in fact add another crime
Cinematic Cultural vandalism
this is what having relations means.
good actors are fired for tweets, actual scumbags get promoted.
Hot take: the flash movie visual affects are actually pretty good if you smear Vaseline all over your screen and eyes
I pirated it and it was super blurry so it didn’t really look that bad to me lol
I’m watching this review on the 1” x 1/2” in-window player on my phone, and also not paying attention, and also my glasses are smudged, and I think it looks great!
Sulfuric acid works better, trust me
Lol
@@Psychobabble6Hollywood execs LOVE you!
That recorder or pan flute edit after he says he's gotta run at the speed of light (like 12:30 ish) is one of the funniest things I've seen all year. Thank you so much, I've been so fucking depressed recently and it was amazing to laugh for the first time in what feels like months.
Hope you’re doing alright!💜
You know what’s sad? Flashpoint is the story that got me into comics. I still love it and it holds a special place in my heart. This movie ripped literally all of my favorite elements of it out. The “bad” universe is barely different , the original it felt like everything that could have gone wrong did. Just watch the animated version if you want a great flash movie.
It's so confusing like why wouldn't they just do Flashpoint? Or just do savitar and save Flashpoint for ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE VERY FIRST FLASH MOVIE. Like yeah let's just reset the timeline like we weren't just introduced to so many characters
people would have LOVED to see Thomas Wayne but I guess that was too much for DC film fans to process so they didn't do it
I'd rather they not touch Flashpoint with Ezra Miller as the Flash. Perhaps with the new DCU, they'll get a better actor.
@@NATE-op9tqWarner executives probably thought nostalgia bait trumps cool alternate versions of characters everyone loves. I bet seeing across the spiderverse made them cope hard lmfao.
And yeah seriously, Thomas Wayne Batman is crucial to the point of the story. We don’t have Barry delivering his fathers letter to Bruce at the end. Such a shame
@pajamapantsjack5874 man they didn't even introduce reverse flash. Wtf were they thinking. Is it supposed to not be Flashpoint? If they do Flashpoint, its just gonna feel like the flash 1.5 the Flashpoint cut 💀
Two major plotholes in the movie.
1. Why doesn't barry just go back in time and find out who killed his mom.
2. The corrupt flash could have easily phased into zod and taken out his heart.
Even easier then phasing just stab them all with the kryptonite chunk at super speed they die and the world is saved.
Corrupt flash could have gone back in time and banged Zods mom so fast he was never even born
Yeah on point 2 even more so. I find it hilarious that this film's core conceipt, the main driving force of the conflict, is that THE FLASH, aka probably the most OP superhero, can't figure out how to beat a bunch of dunces in spacesuits.
I mean, sure, sure. Kryptonians are strong. But evil flash is literally covered in anti-Kryptonian material which disables them. And even if he wasn't, HE'S THE FLASH. They're still 1% as fast as he is. He can literally kill them all in a fraction of a second. AND THERE'S 2 OF HIM TOO.
There's no way 2 Flashes wouldn't beat Zod's motley crew. Forget supergirl. Forget batman. You have 2 speedsters! Against an army with 0 ways to counter frigging speedsters!
cant believe im complimenting the cw flash show but after this movie it really is the lesser of two evils and in that the phasing WAS mainly used as a weapon to take out enemies hearts
Its impressive how they took the relatively simple and understandable time travel from flashpoint and turned into a gaint incomprehensible mess just so they could get double ezra and to cash in on multiverse shit.
Not really. They translated the nonsense. Flashpoint effectively said much the same. "When you break the sound barrier, you create a sonic boom. When you break the time barrier, you create a time boom." That was Eobard's description in Flashpoint about how Barry altered the past before his mother's death. It still didn't make any sense. A sonic boom doesn't create a reality fissure. A "time boom" just sounds like utter garbage.
The issue is, as Adum says, Flash is a broken character because the comic writers just pursued the idea that he could run through time. He's no longer an actual speedster, he's just a nonsense chronokinetic who can do whatever the writers want, even if the writers don't know how to make use of him.
Flashpoint was just a novelty act for DC to reboot the world yet again, before going on to reboot it 2 or 3 more times by now. People only liked it because it gave effectively an alternate version of Earth 3, except Thomas Wayne is still a mostly good Batman compared to Owlman being an evil Batman. It really wasn't a good story. Personally, I'd say the last solid story DC did was Blackest Night.
I’m now braindead because of that.
@@mallios13 I think the concept of a "time boom" is silly comic book nonsense but it still makes more sense than how they explained things in this movie, like I understand the concept of ripples through time altering reality. The comic was at least more consistent with its rules and explanations than the movie was.
Some kids are going to feel dumb for not understanding this movie, only to revisit it as an adult to realize the logics never added up
@@koifish835the thing is the "time boom" can make sense in a comic universe, who the fuck cares, but they really fucked themselves by layering it on top of all the other dumb bullshit like him going back and forth and popping in front of himself but also nto popping in front of himself and also losing his powers in the lightning and not DUE to the time boom, and also stuff is so predictable that a single tomato can saves your mom but also billions of changes happen from every change...
if the "backwards and forwards changes" was the ONLY idiotic, clearly incomprehensible thing they had to sell, it'd be fine lmao, cause you "need" that plot detial to explain why wonder woman or someone else doesn't just defeat the baddie. Everything else makes relative sense to things that people know in the base story, like flash doesn't save his mom w tomatoes, he just runs in and fights the dude whos gonna kill her as a blur and transports him elsewhere. no "chain of events" to break from a random tomato can.
True story: I was in 3d animation in college and we had to make a short animated movie. My group was short one person from the other groups and we were so short handed that I didn't have time to actually finish the textures for the human character so I slapped on a checkerboard pattern and tried to pass it off as intentional. The instructor was not convinced, and rightly so. I see where he's coming from, the director. But yeah, it's actually a really shitty cop out. They should have given more money and support to the vfx artists
at least you werent directing a multi million dollar blockbuster, you probably put more thought into the checkerboard idea than ps3 babies lol
The way the flash CONSTANTLY just has an immediate power to get through the next plot point was making me genuinely angry
He has Italian Spider-man powers!
Most of those powers are well established basic powers of the character
While phasing through things and time travel are both things he can do in the comics, how the movie treats both of these powers is really stupid.
I don't believe something being established in the comics makes it any less bullshit
@offcutt shit in comic books and other works of fantasy hardly ever isn’t bullshit, as long as it works in its own universal logic. This movie took what had its own logic and then fucked the logic. That's what makes it actually bullshit.
I prefer the timeline explanation from the animated movie: if you break the sound barrier, you create a sonic boom (except Flash doesn't, actually), and if you break the time barrier, you create a time boom that causes chaotic changes both forward and backward in time. That gives a much better excuse for not time-travelling to solve every problem, instead of randomly saying "nah it's fate bro".
The time boom is equally random. Nothing has to have an explanation. Everything changes because time boom (ie the writers want the world one way. Essential fate but on meta level)
@@-Azure.EXE- I think a time boom would be much more intuitive than what the movie presents. It actually draws parallels to real, well-known phenomena, instead of just saying “this person is fated to die at approximately this arbitrary window in time because spaghetti!”
It also created consequences of time travel so it can't just be used as a crutch to fix any situation, only being a fallback plan when literally everything else fails because its consequences are so dire that it's only a last resort option at best that everyone would prefer never to have to use. So trying to fix one thing giga-screws over billions other things to the point of Flashpoint paradoxing is always a terrible idea no matter what.
The fact that they had to CGI tears, because Ezra couldn't fake cry to save their life, speaks VOLUMES.
That's what happens when you're totally devoid of any emotions other than apathy or manic psychosis.
@@fitzzcarraldousing someone’s pronouns correctly isn’t humoring them. We can criticize a bad person without being transphobic.
@candy-stars how do you feel about Chris-chans pronouns
@@rachelmayes3064 Why do you even care?
@@zzodysseuszz"is fine i guess" thanks for the permission loser no one asked
Adam’s “wait, he’s Batman?!” Will never not make me laugh.
“Wait he’s batman?!?”
Any movie with microwave babies deserves a 10/10
Closer to an 11 than a 9
You definitely should watch “Happy!” Season 1 is perfect.
He did not microwave the baby, 0/10
Very ironic in retrospect when you consider that what Amber said people wanted to do to her kid
I give it 50/13
I like how Adam can make an hour long video feel like ten minutes.
Me reading this comment 28 minutes in: “wait it’s an hour???!!”
I guess you could say he used TIME TRAVEL!!! 😂
Which is ironic, because watching 10 minutes of the Flash felt like an hour.
He has his own version of the chronosphere it's called the adumsphere
I just noticed because of your comment that it's an hour. It felt like 15 minutes
There has to be a scientific law that explains how these projects somehow look worse the more money that get thrown at them
It's called crunch. The animators were forced to get it out very quickly so naturally it looks like dogshit.
Something tells me "over budget" is involved here somewhere.
Money laundering for zrlenksky
Hugely ballooned budget = tons of reshoots = tons of vfx work redone in way too short a time
A good looking movie is often more the result of craft and time than tons of money
The more money the more pressure to succeed.
The more pressure the more fear of losing the investement.
The more fear the less risk are taken.
Taking less risk is also less creative freedom.
Less creative freedom ends up making "safe" corporate sludge.
"YOU eeUSE MONKEY. AS A DARTBOARD"
How did that not bring you to tears, Adum? 😔😔😔
Saw this in theaters with my boyfriend knowing it was going to be shit, at the part where his giant stupid fucking floating head appears on screen I burst out laughing uncontrollably, which had a bit of a ripple effect throughout the theater, my boyfriend ended up laughing so hard he had an asthma attack and we had to leave the movie for a good 10 minutes
All the suffering from asthma he endured in his life was worth it for this comedic moment.
You're the real-life Flash
Isn’t that Thor ragnarok?
And then everyone clapped
Bro creating history.
I know it wasn’t brought up; but god, did I want Adum to bring up that THIS MOVIE was released as an NFT. That somehow WB looked at this movie and everything in it and said “You know what this movie needs? No, not a coherent plot. It needs to be an NFT.”
The fact that this is real is amazing to me.
You have to admit it is probably the most NFT movie.
@@TerrenceNowickihow
That's wild. I looked it up to verify it's so insane. It's 2023 wtf
@@elegantoddity8609just sell screenshots of almost any scene and put it on the block chain
I love that their answer to saving Batman and Supes is to travel back in time and tell them to do things differently, instead of lets say, go really fast and punch Zod in the face a bunch of times. Or to phase items that would be really inconvenient for alien organs in to his organs. Or just consistently keep turning him around so supes gets free hits on him. And just tell Batman to go home for God's sake.
Well but if he did that it wouldn't be that dramatic! ... and it was way funnier this way, because the Old Flashe's armor was just all the Kryptonian metal stuck in his body. I laughed so hard at that revelation.
They don't even have to tell Batman to go home. Due to how insanely overpowered The Flash has become over the last twenty or so years, one of them could literally just grab old Bruce, drag him all way back to Wayne Manor, strip out of his Batman costume, *and* put him in bed while taking the keys for all of his vehicles before Bruce even realized what the fuck is happening and without even being gone from the fight for even a second.
The Flash's level of speed is *that* dumb.
@@MusicoftheDamned I don't even understand his speed powers. Is he fast cause he can run fast or is he slowing time down around him while he can still move normally?
@@robrick9361 It used to be and should be--unless comics changed this--just the former in that he had to be running to move fast and slow down time outside of maybe his own perception, but this movie appears to be trying to have it both ways to the point that he basically is just slowing down time whenever he wants. So even the movie doesn't seem sure on what his power actually is beyond "screws with time".
the ezra miller rant fucking KILLED ME 😭 “THEY SHOULD BE CANCELLED AND PUT IN JAIL BECAUSE THEYRE A BAD. ACTOR.”
Both of them!
I saw this movie in theatres day one because I had nothing better to do. The only other people in the theatre were four children who were running up and down the aisles, one was watching TikTok quietly but not quite enough, and one was running back and forth in front of me. I only got up once to say something to the staff, which the four kids called me a snitch out loud for. They were told three times to stop by staff, besides that I ignored them like a brick wall because I was so dedicated to through this tremendous experience of a film. The theatre ended up giving me a free ticket for any movie, so I used it to see Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny with my dad. After walking out of the movie where I could hear Harrison Ford's bones popping the entire time, I couldn't decide which experience was worse.
its like that japanese guy who was in both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Respect!
This year really is the one where movies went to die, with rare exceptions.
Bro i havent seen it, but your description. I feel the bones popping. Its awful. Props
Saw this in a theater and it was so empty I could hear people watching Indiana Jones in the theater over if I listened close
snitch
Best movie of the year by far. I loved when they used CGI to resurrect George Reeves the actor who killed himself.
Me personally I loved when they CGI resurrected Christopher Reeve who died from heart failure after living with a horribly debilitating spinal injury
My favorite scene that holds a special place in my heart is CGI Nicolas Cage Superman fighting a CGI spider.
@@JonathanGaeta That, genuinely, got a big grin and an out-loud "No they didn't..." out of me, not gonna lie.
@@JonathanGaeta I'm being deadly serious when I say that that shot was an actual jump scare for me. I was unprepared to see Nicholas Cage in this movie and suddenly seeing him in the Superman costume with long hair for some reason just really frightened me for some reason.
my favorite part is when the flash said its flashing time and flashed all over the CGI spippers
I see we've reached the "it's the speed force, I ain't gotta explain shit" era of flash in record time for this universe.
I don’t see why using the Speed Force as the explanation for a fictional character who’s powers comes from a cosmic thing is a problem. Superman explanation is the sun radiation, Moon Knight explanation is the Egyptian Moon God, Black Panther explanation is the Egyptian Panther God, Spider-Man explanation is a spider bite, and Wolverine/ All Mutants explanation are their genes. Why The Flash having a simple explanation such as the Speed Force is something ppl can’t accept?
@@kingkodobigblackchewie9087"suspension of disbelief" works in mysterious ways.
One moment spiderman sticks to an teflon pan and everyone is ok with a spider bite but when the next moment Flash breaks the time, space and multiple universes; suddenly Speed Force isn't enough.
@@horusreloaded6387 thank you !!!!
Speaking nothing but facts. Did everyone forget what FICTIONAL in fiction means? Barry explanation for his powers are the very thing that gave him his powers. I don’t get why ppl just can’t accept the speed force.
@@kingkodobigblackchewie9087Consistency? Thats why. Otherwise the concept of stakes is practically obsolete if you can throw an deus ex machina anytime or question what even are the abilities of what the characters can even do continuously.
@@someguy198 The Flash powers had always been consistent I’ll agree and say the Flash movie was poor at showcasing what all he can do. But my problem is with ppl who act like the Speed Force is a terrible reason for why he can do what he can. It’s a source for his powers and is the reason. What’s next GL can’t have his ring and lantern be the source of his powers, or Hulk can’t have gamma radiation be the source of his powers, or Wolverine can’t have his mutant x gene be the source of his powers? It’s a stupid and dumb thing to get upset about because to them that’s not a reason. In the comics Barry rarely runs into the speed force to time travel since he had a cosmic treadmill he made to take his speed so he can run through time easily. Since he couldn’t do it whenever he wanted at first and the cosmic treadmill was his easy access to reach the speed enough to go into the speed force. And like in the comics he did it accidentally once in the movie and before in the JL movie which is constant with how speedster find out they can time travel if they aren’t learning from another speedster. Even in the DCEU his powers was constant, the only thing that wasn’t was he time travel standing still which was stupid and I’m glad they didn’t bring it back. But the time travel way in the Flash movie should’ve been erased and just had him running instead of standing still or having that sphere.
Why does CGI these days look worse than stuff a decade or two ago? Seriously?
TLDR the CGI people have the capabilities to make it look good, but they’re given too little time and have to rush it. If CGI looks like it was made in a week, it probably was, to meet insane deadlines.
Films like lord of the rings used miniatures more than cgi in the end, nowadays its all computer generated garbage
@@henrynelson9301 and it's baffling that Monsters, the debut film by Godzilla (2014) and Rogue One Director, Gareth Edwards, had a budget of 500,000 dollars and was a CG heavy film that had effects that were a lot better.
@@ActivistBatonVI Everything Everywhere All at Once’s VFX weren’t even done by a studio, they were made in-house by like five people working from home. It’s not necessarily a CGI heavy film, and it’s certainly not trying to be Marvel, and it just looks gorgeous.
Time and also the way it's filmed. IIRC the Black Panther move had like 2 months to finish the CG, and 90% of shots needed CG. Directors also used to take lighting and the way things were shot into consideration to make the CG process easier. Many of the current superhero movies don't.
Adum's snark with the "Just turn your brain off and enjoy the review" is killing me
Its really disappointing how badly the DC cinematic universe has portrayed The Flash. Most people I know LOVE The Flash as portrayed in the comics and in the Justice League Unlimited cartoon. He has a surprising amount of emotional maturity for a character who often is put into the comic relief role. That emotional maturity is what I think most people like about him. Most other heroes when you ask what makes them the best, people will think of just, examples of them being really powerful or clever.
For the Flash though, common moments people remember about him are things like... Chasing a dimension hopping supervillain to the end of the universe... To get a child's lollypop back. Learning construction at super speed to rebuild an apartment that had caught on fire so that the people who lived there wouldn't become homeless. Talking a super villain into getting back on his meds and promising to visit him at the hospital to hang out if he turns himself in.
There was one story where a villain mentions The Flash is the worst hero to fight, because most will just beat you up and drop you off at a jail. Flash will TALK to you and make you feel bad about not doing something better with your life. Ezra does not convey that at all. Ezra would be someone the Flash would have to have a talk with.
Funny thing, that's Wally West in Justice League(2001) and unlimited (2003) Don't get me wrong Wally's an absolutely great character, and to be honest he should get so much more screen time than Barry Allen. Villains actually talk about how much more they like Wally over Barry Allen who they described as a stick in the mud.
What happened was when DC was writing Justice League they decided to just give Wally West Barry Allen's backstory instead, since Wally is just so much more charismatic especially for an all audiences kids show.
The Justice League(2001)'s Flash is the kind of guy who'd go out of his way to run to Japan just to get a Christmas present to kids at a group home. Then when the toy's broken in a fight, he didn't care if he was killed, the thought of disappointing the kids mattered more to him. He unintentionally appealed to the morality of the guy he was fighting against, and they rebuilt the toy for the kids together.
Either way, Wally or Barry both versions of the flash have emphasis on their humanity and empathy. That's the main pillars of their characters. It's why as soon as I heard this film would be flashpoint, I stopped giving a shit, because flashpoint is a gritty, edgy, fun house world comic first and a flash exploration second.
Barry is canonically loved by Central City because of the work he does. He remembers the names of the cops he talks to and the citizens he saves. He talks to his villains and tries to help people above everything else. That's why he's such a success.
Snyder verse has a long, ugly trend of missing what heroes are about. Superman's struggle isn't being a god among humans, it's being a human with the powers of a god that he has to actively hold back at all times. Batman doesn't fucking kill people, he protects everyone; even when they deserve death, he spares them, because he never wants to cause someone the same grief that crippled him. This film is garbage and I cannot thank Adam enough for watching it so I don't have to
This. This is why the Flash was and will forever be my favorite superhero. Specifically Wally West, because he's the Flash I grew up with, the Flash that I love because of his humanity, his personality, and just how fun of a character he is. I cannot thank the Justice League and JLU cartoons enough for giving me my favorite hero.
I just wish other pieces of DC media would take Wally into consideration, pasting his traits onto Barry instead, and why I feel he isn't really written well in the comics anymore. Yes, I'm talking about Identity Crisis and how he killed people. I cannot remember the specific reason why, all I remember is that it rubbed me the wrong way.
Ezra would be a flash villian
Shoutout to Wally in young justice with that heart delivery episode, made me love the flash
I enjoyed watching you edit this on stream. Looking forward to seeing what you ended up keeping and cutting.
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Hey, OT!
It's OT! Our internet dad is here! :D
hi OT, do film more vids? even the low maintenance reaction ones
Never understood why Barry never questioned being hit out of the time travel bubble thingy by some random person
That Supergirl 180 was one of the movie's worst parts. She didn't see a baby that reminded her of Kal El? She didn't see kids playing, which reminded her of life on her planet. She didn't see firefighters rescuing someone, proving that there are people who care enough about others to put their lives on the line, as Kal El's father did by getting her and his son off the planet? She sees Zod and..?
she decided the movie needed to happen.
@AchedSphinx Reminds me of Pitch Meetings "so the movie can happen"
@@AchedSphinxwow, wow, wow.
Wow.
You know, it's funny but in the animated movie Flashpoint (and likely the original comic), the scene where Barry tries to get his powers back is such a heart-wrenching scene because it shows just how improbably it is for him to have gotten them in the first place, while also highlighting his desperation to get them to fix everything.
Point is, that's a better Flashpoint movie than this one.
Yes! I agree so much! Like, I have no idea why they didn't just stick more closely to the flashpoint story? Not talking in the sense of 'it needs to be like the comics' No. In the sense that the og rules of the time travel and flash's powers in flashpoint actually makes more sense and, unlike this movie, doesn't give me a headache...
The animated movie is basically just the og comic, but with very few minor changes, like the way Thomas kills Thawne. In the og comic, Thawne gets a sword run through him by Thomas, unlike the movie where we get an incredible shot of Thomas capping Thawne in the head.
@captainautism8221 even more reason why people should just watch that movie over this one to see a better rendition of this storyline
Funny how the animated dc movies are so much better than the live action ones, joker and the Batman being the exceptions of course.
@@crimsondynamo615 Yup, now if only each of the animated movies was minutes longer. I love those movies, but the vast majority of them are horribly paced.
“You’re gonna be a gay baby” I’m so glad Adam snuck that quote in because the Frozen review is how I discovered the channel!
I think about that quote daily
Tomatoes opens divergent timelines. This is a rule. If he's mom was picking up broccoli the timeline wouldn't change.
Someone should compress this entire movie into a gif. It would improve the viewing experience.
The length of a gif is pretty much how long I could tolerate watching this movie.
I'm really glad Adum dialed back his criticism in this one. A very nuanced take.
THIS is the defining moment in Nathan Fielder's movie career and I for one am proud of him.
As the great AQUA once said: Come on Barbie, let's go party.
Nathan Fielder finally deserves to be on the big screen. It's a shame he didn't direct it himself ,because then it would be a masterpiece... like everything else he ever made.
“Wait he’s BARBIE?”
@@lordnerdyguy😂
did you know you can put out fires with the sun?
@@itsmesnacks No way
Hollywood needs to give time travel related stories a rest. They barely understand it and implement it in an even less coherent way
I liked the part where Flash went back in time to the first thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu
That's right, they where going back in time to the first Thanksgiving to get turkeys off the menu!
Naw go back in time and make sure the traditional thanksgiving meal is a combination of horse, dog, cat, and endangered whale species. Also turkey becomes a mandatory side and all 50 states pass a law that if you do not eat every portion of DELICIOUS animal flesh, you will be publicly sodomized.
Can't believe I find this comment😂
It's funnier when you think about how the older Flash 2 who repeatedly tried to change the past would have to stop and go to the grocery store and have a snack multiple times to avoid running out of energy.
Who's to say he didn't eventually turn to cannibalizing the dead on the battlefield?
The best part is when Ezra said “i can drug you”
I am not kidding when I say that my audience was silent at that line
And starts fondling Micheal Keaton 36:10
That is an actual line Ezra said.
Did he drug someone IRL or something? I know very little of the crimes of Ezra Miller, or him in general
@@Thatonedude917I don’t think so, it just really doesn’t sound out of character for them
"This is an inevitable intersection!"
Says Barry from a timeline/universe/whatever where THIS DID NOT HAPPEN, and should therefore know that this is not inevitable.
"But moving the can of tomatoes made it inevitable," I can hear someone say, and that I need to point out how stupid that sounds shows how broken that thought process for the tomato can was.
Oh good lord I just realized this entire movie is an overlong explanation of the phrase, "opening a can of tomatoes."
I'd be upset about yms spending so much of the video not knowing the many things the flash can do, but then I remembered the movie doesn't either
It's also a big fault of the movie for not being able to explain everything the Flash can do.
Even the animated Flashpoint Movie took a little bit of time to reestablish what Flash was capable of so audiences don't get confused.
Given Flash's evolution in comics, he can do whatever the writers want now.
"He can beat all the everything at once because Speedforce, but he chooses not to because that is what a hero does."
@@mallios13That's just sorta the problem with comics. Comic book power creep is a real thing. They just have everyone doing the most insane shit because in response to the opposition's previously bonkers feats, to the point where things get so loony you don't even care
yeah this movie is a godawful way to be introduced to him and how his powers work.
@@grunkleg.2934 - Yeah, what's gross about it is that no one really expects all of the comics to be consistent with *each other*; but literally any comic can be used as a touchstone to explain away something incoherent in the movie. You can pretty much just do what you want as long as you get the goofy-ass costume right, and there'll be a comic that says it's okay and an army of fanboys to tell everyone that on your behalf.
36:10 How is it even possible that you managed to make that scene even more dramatic and heart-wrenching, bravo.
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you're gonna be a gay baby
made me feel like I as having a seizure lmfao
Watched it high, had to go outside and get some fresh air and give my head a wobble.
Made me fucking lightheaded from laughing
Ezra’s mouth is open for 99% of the movie. I can only conclude that it is part of Berrys character and he keeps it open to feed on bugs that he runs through for extra protein
Giving Daisy Ridley a run for her money
Lmaooo this is a good conclusion
A Batman themed lightning rod. Absolute gold. Adam West is looking down on us, smiling.
Ezra Miller was truly excellent in We Need to Talk about Kevin.
In retrospect that... Probably wasn't acting.
No, it most definitely was not.
I don't give him credit much for that movie but goddamn that's another role where Tilda Swinton absolutely delivered.
Like Adam said, he was probably good in Afterschool too.
Also of note was that Jeremy Allen White was also in that movie, and he later played the main character of The Bear, a TV show which is a better use of your time.
He was decent in Another Happy Day
I think the worst thing about that big fight scene is that its in a completely flat empty field, literally the most boring setting you could possibly have for a fight scene. All the best fight scenes utilize the immediate environment.
Shit the MCU had TWO empty nothings for final battle set piece back to back and those scenes were awesome
It literally looks like an empty roblox map and it makes me feel so awful in a way i can’t describe
I couldn’t help but notice that while watching this review. Where the fuck is this insanely important battle of the times taking place, out in a desert in Arizona? At least the DC heroes were kind enough to finally realize that the pure carnage of their fights in big cities simply wasn’t worth it
That moment when you the biggest studio got worse background places for fighting than Dragonball at it's worst, a manga made by one person
At some point during Adum's explanation of one of the "Time Bowl" scenes or whatever, my eyes glazed over and I physically couldn't focus on it. I can only imagine watching it unfold in the movie would've been actual sensory torture.
Same
It's subliminal messaging that you need to take a strong hit of a "time bowl" when watching it, and hope you don't OD.
I love how one baby is just casually sucking their thumb while falling to their death.
"People will forget all that." I love how this one phrase and everybody's reaction to it can be applied to a lot of things that are going on in Hollywood right now.
It's funny cuz the original comic this movie was based on, The Flashpoint Paradox, has a much simpler and easier to understand time travel logic.
It's one timeline, Flash saves his mom and wakes up in modern day in the new timeline he created. But everything is fucked with Aquaman and Wonder Woman being villains and going to war, Batman being Bruce's father instead, and Superman being kidnapped by the government when he arrived on Earth. The reason all of these changes happened was because in the same way breaking the sound barrier creates a sonic boom, breaking the time barrier (LOL) creates a "time boom" which distorts events in the timeline just a tad but enough to create drastic changes.
By the end of the story, the world is basically being nuked and now Flash has to stop himself from saving his mom because by preventing his mom's salvation he prevents this fucked up future from happening and saves the world. Also, the reason he doesn't have powers in the original story isn't because he "undid it", but because in the new timeline he never got powers.
Are there still logical holes in the time travel logic? Sure, but compared to the amount in this movie it's not even close. How do you fuck up something literally pre-written for you?
exactly. Def loved reading FPP just to get disappointed by this corporate mess.
i love how it happens in the animated movie...like aquaman just couldn't resist that wonder woman pussy and then his wife sees and ww kills her and they go to war lmfao
"How do you fuck up something literally pre-written for you?" You could ask that same question of every other bad (or even mediocre) comic book movie.
It is incredibly hard to make completely logical time travel movies.
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12 Monkeys does it, but by it being a time loop.
Basically most consistent and logical time travel stories have to essentially be time loops, otherwise you end up with paradoxes, illogical stuff, etc.
@@SioxerNikitaYeah, time loops are pretty much the only way to make time travel somewhat logical, because with that premise the present has already accounted for any changes a time traveller may make in the past.
14:25 Jesus, people aren't exaggerating when they say the CGI looks like its from a PS3 game. Also Flash has always been the most broken DC character and thats counting Superman punching reality and grabbing black hole in his hand. One Flash stunt involved a train about to drive into a broken bridge, so Flash runs into a library, reads hundreds of engineering books in a millisecond then progressively builds the bridge under the train as the train is passing through the broken bridge.
That actually makes more sense than the "I tried every combination" computer thing
Yeah no that's a lot more clever and funny than just letting the kid time travel with such arbitrary rules and limitations. It's still thematically well within "guy go fast" without having to grossly misapply quantum physics.
Yeah I always found characters like the Flash work best when the writers fully embrace how comically overpowered the character is and just do the most wacky and insane shit with it Lmao
Flash could have rebuilt entire cities within a weeks time!
@@impcityangel3245honestly that's the appeal of the flash. He has these really goofy street level villains and then COSMIC REALITY SHIFTING. no in between
Olivia did a fantastic job editing this 👏 i know Adum is super particular about the editing of his videos, much love and respect Olivia
it’s so funny/repulsive how WB definitely had some Pinkertons murder like 6 people to make sure this movie could be released & their star wouldn’t be in jail
The flash critics: "because the next time the pinkertons come, they will ride trough and kill everybody!" - Arthur Morgan
@@Klongu_Da_Bonguis it flash critics or arthur morgan
Wait what? Is this real?
@@obscure.referenceboth are the same
@@meatlejuice i did see the va and writers saying arthur morgan would have hated the flash
"you're gonna be a gay baby" had me fucking rolling lmao the Frozen review is such a gem
I thought I couldn't stop laughing after that repetative "Flash fumbling his fingers into Batman's suit", and then he has this fantastic punchline
@@Choekaas **...tickle tickle tickle** hey-- **tickle tickle tickle...** *hey--*
This review was dripping old school YMS review energy and I was living (while Barry’s mom was dying). Rare to get a fully edited breakdown YMS review these days! Time to go rewatch the Amusement and Frozen reviews
Did you know Actors had to actually jeopardize their entire career by actually traveling through time when filming?
This is the movie that made me realize how goddamn sick of multiverses I am now. At this point they're just exhausting to follow and so overdone. My eyes rolled so hard when the universes started colliding or whatever. I am begging for just a normal superhero movie with no time travel, no multiverse, and no tongue in cheek references to other franchises.
"no tongue in cheek references to other franchises" ?!
But that's what superhero movies are for.
Or, if you’re at least GOING to do multiverse stories or stories that have elements of the multiverse, make them compelling. Everything Everywhere All At Once was a fantastic multiverse story because it used the multiverse as a vehicle to explore characters, enhance the plot, and enhance the humour. The Spider-Verse movies also work because they use the multiverse to contrast between different heroes and challenge pre-conceived Spider-Man tropes.
The MCU and DCCU movies that use the multiverse or have multiverse elements in them don’t work as well because they mostly use them as either window dressing (Multiverse of Madness, GotG3) or fanservice (No Way Home, The Flash, and also MoM in a way).
But otherwise yeah, I would love a normal superhero movie with none of the multiversal bells and whistles.
It's an inherently nihilistic and illogical concept that only works when it's not being taken *too* seriously (like Everything Everywhere All At Once or the Spider-Verse movies) or just done for laughs (like Rick & Morty).
When Endgame was coming up I remember talking to my friend about how much it was going to absolutely ruin Marvel. Which is a film franchise I was already not very fond of. As soon as you bring in Multiverses, nothing can really matter, and plot conveniences can happen because Multiverses.
@@chemergencyHow is a mutliverse nihilistic?